WEBVTT - They're Not Afraid to Kill Us... Yet | MiniPod 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.520 Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:05.359 Recent Choice Media. 0:00:05.519 --> 0:00:08.280 Welcome, well, come, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome. 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.360 All right, everyone, this is our mini pod is Native 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.520 LAMPI Welcome home, y'all. I'm Angela, right with Tiffany Cross 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.560 and Andrew gillim and today we were talking about a 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.919 lot of stuff in this mini pod. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:25.000 Yeah, yeah, well the one thing I want to talk 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.720 about because we've got some serious stuff to get too. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:32.519 But in our main podcast, Angela sent an email that 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.919 I shouldn't have looked at because I should be focused 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.159 on you guys, but I just blanked down because it 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.240 popped up on my computer. Angela was invited to appear 0:00:42.400 --> 0:00:47.600 on MSNBC, and she responded, and I'm going to read 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:52.960 that email for our Hi Blank, I won't say the 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:57.400 person's name, Hi Blank. I was devastated by the untimely, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.960 unfortunate dismissal of my friend joy read I will not 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.959 likely be making any appearance on MSNBC in the foreseeable future. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:09.880 Thank you, Angela, RII I do thank you for the offer. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:14.800 Thank you for the offer, which, if you read black 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:23.240 Women Speak, is your fine pretty much whatever? Why do 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:23.880 you want to say it? 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:25.319 But why I. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:30.399 Found this so hilarious is because the temerity of them 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:31.200 to even. 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.800 Ask why why would she. 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.720 Clearly because she said hey, following up on the request, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.800 I was trying to yeah, no, But I just think 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.880 that is it's a I don't know what to do 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:50.560 with myself because I spent my whole career building this 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.760 and it is really a dying industry. So I don't 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:55.200 even know what to do with myself. But it's like 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.360 y'all killed yourself. 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:56.800 You know. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.480 The ratings have not been what they were since Joy 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:04.960 and Joy's killing it. It was such a joy dumb, dumb, dumb, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:05.680 dumb decision. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.240 I just want to say to Joy that we offer 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.919 ourselves up to appear on your show, Joy, but we 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.040 I don't think any of us are going on MS 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.320 and I just you know, for me, I could have 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:18.600 included Tiff too, but I wanted them to know. I 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.040 wanted to bring up Joy in this moment because of course, 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.880 Joy just happened and we had a full on boycott 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:30.120 that uh, that began shortly after, right when we really 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.040 learned of her dismissal. And with Tiff, we didn't have 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:38.000 that because Joy was still on, and so I think 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.840 we were turning. I wasn't watching weekends, but I definitely, 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:42.440 you know. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.359 We would say don't watch except for Joy Show. Yeah, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.359 you know, like tuned in the Joy Show. And now 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.360 it's like you ain't gonna watch anything. And there are 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.120 people there who I love, dearly Aimon moy D, I 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:58.480 think Alie Velshi amazing. So there are wonderful people over there, 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.120 but and and they have their righteous frustrations too, I'm sure. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:06.799 So I just want those individuals to know we see you, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.799 we hear you, we feel you, and thank you for 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.800 continuing to speak truth. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.440 To power on the network. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.640 And they lost Maddie to Maddie Hassan, who was brilliant too. 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.399 I helped Katie fang me and Katie. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.040 Got into it online because I thought she was saying 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.440 something about t if she wasn't saying it. 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.120 Was I remember, but shut out. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.440 I didn't like I didn't like her tweet either, but 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.720 I like Katie is such a supporter, and. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:36.080 She cleared her. 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.520 So it was all a misunderstanding. 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.440 Yeah, she was helping and Drew I don't know where 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.480 I wasn't And I was like, oh, she got my lawyer. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.160 I don't remember that, but I definitely am grateful to her. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.360 I was mad at everybody, so when I saw Katie, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.240 I was like, what, how dares? I didn't know who 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.680 to trust, like who was betraying me because so many 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.000 people were betraying me at the time. So anyway, I 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.080 just wanted to share that with the audience just so 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.320 y'all know, so y'all know it's real and shout out in. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.760 Yeah, I'm not going on this show if they're not 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.320 gonna you know, I'm just like, honestly, I don't even 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.120 understand the point. I think there are other ways to 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.760 cut through right now, and I am almost singularly focused 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:16.800 on figuring out how to uplift independent voices that can 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:22.360 be that can be guided by the strength of their convictions. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.320 And I think to that point right where we're not 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:31.240 seeing these days as much is earnest conversations around the 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.240 violence that is ensuing against black bodies all throughout this country, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.600 some with the blessing of the Department of Justice, some 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:43.200 at the behest, and the pushing of ICE, the immigration 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:47.280 Customs enforcement. We had just on my show on Tuesday, 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.920 my live show was with Mildred Pierre, who is the 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.600 wife of Rodney Taylor, who was detained in January and 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:59.400 is still in ice custody because of a crime that 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:03.680 he allegedly committed and was pardoned for when he was 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.560 sixteen years old. A paraplegic, not paraplegic, but he has 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.800 what's it call when you prosthetics. He has prosthetic lens. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.880 They accused him of jumping into a window, stealing a 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.920 stereo and jumping out of the window. He had a 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.960 wood foot at the time, and so they pardoned him 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.360 of this. I still detained him and wants to deport 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.200 him back to Liberia. Some of y'all know the history 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.200 of Liberia. If you don't, we put links in for 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.760 you in the podcast on Tuesday so you can understand 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:35.480 how ridiculous this is. Rodney has a hearing August twelfth 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.280 that I will be attending. I'm of course inviting my 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.480 co host and anybody who wants to join us. We 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:44.000 cannot let this stand. Tiff and Andrew and Ibery is, oh, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:44.679 that's important. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.200 It's in Georgia, and we'll make sure we send additional details. 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.120 There's a GoFundMe. 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:51.920 But my point in saying this is the violence on 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.719 black bodies is happening at the federal level, the state level, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:59.800 the local level. The Jacksonville Sheriff is currently investigating and 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:04.600 incident that happened against William McNeill Junior in Jacksonville, Florida 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.840 in February, and some of us are just learning about it. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:10.080 I want to give y'all a trigger warning to my 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.680 co host, to those who are watching at home, and 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.600 even the listeners. This is not easy to hear or see, 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.039 but we need to be aware. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:21.000 Let's roll the clip. Is there a reason why you're 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:21.840 popping open like that? 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:26.120 If that word is the reason that you're pulling me over? Yeah, absolutely, 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.320 there's a reason why I'm pulling you over here. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:29.760 For one thing, inclement inclement whether you don't have your. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.560 Lights on, two things, you're not wearing your seatbelts, the 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.000 three don't need the lights, and it's not whether it's. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.480 Not okay, I'm not arguing with you. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:37.680 I'm telling you why I'm pulling it over. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:40.960 Give me your driver's licenses, registration for venture costs. 0:06:40.640 --> 0:06:43.520 All your supervisor. Excuse me, how do you feel, advisor? 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:45.880 Why did you pull meal you? 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.560 Sorry? I'm a thirty five for the dog driver already 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:51.200 told you, how do you pull me over? Step out 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:57.160 of the vehicle, Step out of exit the phicle. 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:58.279 Now exit the. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.120 Reason, sir? 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:05.799 What is the reason? 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:15.240 Step out now? All right? So there is another angle 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:16.040 of this video. 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:17.960 There is where you can see it. 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.760 Yeah, and I almost want to. I know that was 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.960 traumatizing enough, but I almost want to play that too. 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:25.640 Maybe we can't, We can't, teast. I was gonna say 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.280 we can insert it in post, but I want to. 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.960 I think, Yeah, I agree with you, Andrew. It's a 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.840 completely different experience. I wanted the full video, But now 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.920 I understand why it was on Fox eleven because they 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.440 wanted to make sure that we heard about the marijuanas 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.000 that that justifies them busting him in his mouth and 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.240 busting through the window. 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.560 So let me see this is this is it? 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.960 After refusing to get out of his car, William McNeil 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.520 Junior took this open handed blow from JSO officer Donald 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.240 Bowers during a February traffic stop. Just days following the 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.080 release of the footage shot on McNeil phone, Sheriff TK 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.239 Waters announced Bowers had been stripped of his policing authority 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.200 pending the results of an ongoing internal investigation. He suggested, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.600 if McNeil had filed an official complaint, the agency would 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:13.000 have looked into the arrest earlier. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.760 Who'd have been all over it, you know, if had 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.680 that been the case, But he did not. 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.520 Official JSO records, including the arrest report, the incident report, 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.400 and the response to resistance report, make no mention of 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.080 officer Bauer's initial hit to McNeil's face. Police body cam 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.760 also fails to capture the blow. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.440 So there's he does. 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:33.400 That's what I'm gonna say. 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.439 There's another angle steal when he gets snatched out the 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.240 car where they bust his head up against I think 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.600 it's up against the car, Andrew. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:44.480 But it's just it is it is, it is. It 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:45.640 is infuriating. 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:46.200 It is. 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.800 So fourth, there are two in the afternoon. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.120 At seven, eight o'clock, nine o'clock at ninety still by 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.760 the way right now where I am at Florida, right 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:01.320 X Andville's just down the street. 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:10.640 Four five, But four five in February. This sky, because 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:14.360 we see the video is clear, you can, I mean 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:15.920 it may not be clear. It could be cloudy. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.839 I have no idea, but I don't see rainfalling it's 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.079 not on the lens of the camera, and it doesn't 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:26.640 appear on the gentleman's vehicle either. So what they actually did, hear, y'all, 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:31.319 is something called a pretext stop pretectual stop. By the way, 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.480 this is something the Department of Justice has dissuaded police 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.679 departments from doing. And what that means is you take 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.960 a minor infraction as an opportunity to pull someone over 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.760 whom you believe is involved in more serious criminal activity, 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:52.280 and you use this pretext this this light's not on, 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.400 or fail to use a signal when changing lanes, or 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.679 whatever other minor infraction they could come up with, so 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:04.280 that they can get into the vehicle and hopefully discover 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.680 what are deeper crimes. The reason why the DOJ dissuades 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:13.160 people from using protectual stops and have written consent decrees 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.400 with police departments all across the country to end this 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:19.520 kind of practice is because generally it targets black people 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.320 and black communities. So if you were doing pretectual stops 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.840 all over the city, it was happening in white areas 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.000 as well as in black areas, it would be one thing, 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.480 it'd be indiscriminated, except almost always these pretext stops are 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:43.280 used extremely excessively and black communities and black neighborhoods, black 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.760 sides of towns, and on poor sides of towns as 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.360 a way to get these people caught up in a 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:52.040 much more serious infraction. They don't even poll people for 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:54.600 weed right now in this state pretty much unless they 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:57.640 consider you are a dealer, and this man's got a 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:00.240 smokable weed. And that's what you're gonna say now is 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.640 the reason that justifies you coming across his face like 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:09.160 that twice, unprovoked. It's it's insane again, not shocked, not surprised. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.880 I'm glad that the brother lived to tell the story 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:17.920 another day because I could have easily seen this situation 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:23.280 going completely differently, And were it not for his own recording, 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.720 many viewers listeners would not have been able to see 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:34.120 the devastation that this officer calls causes unprovoked by escalating 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:35.040 the situation and not. 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:35.880 De escalating it. 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.040 You know, it's hard to watch, but it's uh. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:49.320 It is. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.920 A regular occurrence. And I remember when the debate around 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.680 body Ham's were coming out and it was this big victory, like, okay, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.280 now all police officers a little will wear body camps, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:05.920 and it hasn't really stopped or changed anything. All we 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:13.319 have now is a better view of officers assaulting and 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.000 killing killing us. You know, I don't know what to do. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:22.280 I think it's important to look at in twenty twenty 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.079 when there was a so called racial reckoning. You know, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.920 I think we all kind of knew that this was 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:37.360 just a brief marketing ploy for corporations, and it hasn't really. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:39.319 Changed much. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:44.599 It hasn't really had an impact. And it's why I say, like, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:51.160 you cannot serve the corporate structure and community because they 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:57.640 run contrary to each other. When all these companies were 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.400 giving money, and again this was like a blood sacrifice, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.439 you know, like we had to watch a man be 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.040 murdered on TV for them to even do anything. And 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:14.760 so when the country's fifty biggest countries publicly traded companies 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:19.560 were given all this money, JP, Morgan, Chase a Goal, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:25.839 Google gave money, it was like millions of dollars pouring in. 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:32.600 And it wasn't real structural change like how much money precisely, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.800 but even the money they gave, more than ninety percent 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:41.880 of that money was allocated to potentially profitable initiatives, stuff 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:46.599 like loans and investments and mortgages. The reporting found that, 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:48.600 and I think it was the Washington Post who dug 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:50.920 into this. The reporting found that I think only seventy 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:55.840 million went to organizations that were devoted to criminal justice 0:13:55.960 --> 0:14:00.559 and racial justice. And in the years I don't know 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.079 the most current stats, but in the years since, so 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.120 between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty four, four years after 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.040 George Floyd's murder, two hundred and forty eight black men 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:13.640 have been. 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.800 Shot to death by the police. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:18.000 So I. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.520 You know, like these these policies, it was just a 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.720 reflexive reaction to the murder of somebody, not a true 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:32.440 racial reckoning that we want to call it. Sorry, if 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:34.800 you're watching this and my camera is shaky, it is 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.680 because I'm trying to still play with my charge or 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.800 my computer's gonna die at any minute. So apologies for 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.520 making the video shake, and apologies to the folks who 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:44.960 have to deal with this in post production and the 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.600 viewers who might get Vertigo watching it. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.200 But it is Andrew. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.160 The reason why we're talking about this is because you 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.560 brought up You have three children, two black boys who 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.920 you're raising, and the fear. It must strike in you 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.640 every time. And I you know, I I experienced this 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.680 on the vineyard in the summer. And you see, like, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.440 you know, the black teenagers walking around like they hard, okay, 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.440 and they they on the vineyard, but they walking around 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.640 with the pants and the hair, and you know, like 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.440 what you know, I love to see it. I'm like, yes, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.160 black boys, be free and be joyful. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:19.840 You deserve that. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.520 But I look at them and I'm like, y'all are fifteen, sixteen, seventeen. 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:25.320 Some of y'all I'd have known since you were two, three, 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.120 four and five. And I see you as these babies, right, 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.880 these babies who have grown up. And I think you 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:35.520 walk off this island and the world sees you as 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.480 a threat. They see you as violent, just like this 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.280 boy in his car. This young man in his car 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.680 was immediately perceived a threat. Do you think a white 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.960 boy in khakis would have been met with that same thing? 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.200 And the fact that he had marijuana on them is irrelevant. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.600 Recreational marijuana does happen to be illegal in Florida. Florida 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.480 needs to get with the times, because I know all 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:00.680 those crazy maga folks down there are definitely blazing and 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.480 snorting and doing all kinds of things. But you can 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.640 have marijuana on you if you have a medical card. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.560 In Florida, they didn't even ask him, do you have 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.920 a medical card for this? So I just I'm disgusted 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.360 by it, and a part of me again, because I'm 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.880 reading Asada, a part of me feels like, yeah, he 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.320 wasn't resisting. People say well, why, you know, why are 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.040 they trying to get up? 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.280 Like because that shit hurts. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.800 You're being slammed to the ground, You're trying to protect yourself. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.160 You're trying to just be treated like a human being. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:30.680 But I do feel like. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.840 If we are to die, then I want to die fighting, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.800 you know, Like I just at some point I want 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.080 them to be scared of us. At some point, I 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.080 want you to be scared about putting your hands on 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.080 black bodies because I've seen white folks get away with that, 0:16:50.280 --> 0:16:52.320 and I know, like, I want you all to push 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.440 back and tell me like that ain't the thing, because 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.280 we will get killed. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:56.360 I know we will get killed. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.600 But I just, like with George Floyd, I'm like, in 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:00.600 that moment, I want them to be scared. I want 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.760 them to feel like we surrounded by a bunch of 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.400 black folks, and I'm kneeling on this man's neck, like, yeah, 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.359 we got guns, but if they descend, I don't know 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.960 just how do we tap into that month I. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:12.639 Murdered with impunity, That's my point, because they have a 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:13.440 license to kill. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.679 But yeah, I think we'll go ahead, hands with the legally. 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.760 I'm sure I'm saying something better. No, I think I 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:23.360 understand what you're saying, you know, I think that we're 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.480 tired of dying and in there, in it there it feels, 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:32.760 you know, especially frustrating when your resistance is treated as 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.800 the most criminal thing and not the the initial reason 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.680 why you were stopped or questioned or handcuffed or busted 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.199 in the face because you like, I. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:42.920 Don't understand why you're pulling me over. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.879 You're telling me to put my seatbolt on, Like how 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.560 do you know I didn't take the seatbowt off once 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:50.399 you pulled me over to get my license out, Like 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.000 you don't really know what's going on. And I think 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.040 that let's say that he didn't have a seatbelt on, 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.480 and let's say that he needed to put his lights 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.000 on because there was inclement weather that only this officer 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:06.760 could see what purpose does it serve you to bust 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.120 the window and to punch this man in the face. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.960 And then I think, for me, the worst offense is 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:17.919 these black men who are present for the stop, present 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.600 for the attack, because that's what it was, present for 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.920 the arrest, who are no different than the officers on 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.359 the screen or the officer on the screen, and boys 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:29.280 in a hood like you are just a part of 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.760 what is wrong with the with structural racism and systemic 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:37.359 issues power with police and law enforcement for our folks. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:43.280 So I just I'm sending William all the love William 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.880 McNeil neil Jr. And I just want to say, brother, 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.840 I understand why you didn't file a complaint because it's like, 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:51.359 what difference does it make? So now they manage you 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.800 because you didn't file a complaint. Now they mad at 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.800 you because you traumatize off of what happened. There are 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.479 so many young black men who don't have video, who 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.399 don't have, you know, the benefit of the doubt on 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.520 their side because maybe they committed a crime, because maybe 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.600 they look to be inherently violent and criminal whatever it is. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.480 You don't deserve that, and you do deserve our advocacy, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.479 and so we'll shed a light on this, even if 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.960 it upsets our stomach, makes us naxous knowing your reality. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:20.920 We can't imagine what you're going through just trying to 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.359 make it through. But no, you have family and us 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.720 and we are going to fight alongside you. Like I said, 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.280 this might be the time Andrew brings his bullhorn back out. 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.560 I just think we need to update what we're telling 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:36.440 our children, our young people when they encounter law enforcement. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.159 I remember taking my kids to the park, which I 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:43.320 did every Sunday when they were little, little, little, and 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.440 we would play outside, get the energy out, said go 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:49.800 to bed. And I remember, you know, these white women 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.760 in the park, you know, bending down that my children 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.240 and saying how cute they were, and oh how polite, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.200 and oh how this. And I remember having. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:03.040 This just thought flushed to my mind, like when do 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:06.520 they become your aims? And do they become the dangers 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:10.320 that you fear. They're so cute now and so you know, 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.480 precocious and all these things, and I'm thinking, when do 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.640 you decide that they're now the threat? Because it really 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.640 is your decision. I mean, it isn't what I determined 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.040 my interaction with them is not the status quo. Because 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:26.040 I see babies, I see boys, I see kids who 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.200 are being kids, who are making kids like decisions about themselves. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:36.679 In that moment in time, I see bright futures, incredible 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.679 contributors to the future of humanity. And I'm being humble 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:40.960 with that. 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:42.600 That's what I see. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.920 But unfortunately your eyes have scales on them and it 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:51.040 can't quite reveal the truth of the matter. And so 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:57.560 when you decide my kids are to be feared, is 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:02.960 when I'm on hyper steroids trying to protect them. Left 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.840 right center, you've mentioned I don't know my neighbors. I 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:08.440 gotta know my neighbors, and I take my kids with 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.000 me when I introduce myself to folks who are moving 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.360 into the neighborhood, because I don't want them to mistake 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:16.600 who they are when they see them walking down the 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:21.400 street at dust or walking back through the neighborhood after 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.720 school when they've been dropped off by a bus. Right, So, 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.800 we don't have the luxury of just leaving it to chance, 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:30.680 and our kids don't have the right to be children. 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:36.480 They must now assess every situation from its most murky point, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:42.720 from its most sinister perspective because you lack the curiosity 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.359 in the muscle memory to see a human as a 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.719 human being, regardless of the color melanated or not skinned 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.680 they am. It's ridiculous, but I don't expect more. So 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.000 we do have to do what we can to protect 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.160 our children wherever we can. 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.920 Yeah, and that's a great place for us to end. Also, 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:05.000