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Speaker 1: we're going to run against crazy Bernie. That could be

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Speaker 1: he's a crazy man. But that's okay. We like crazy people.

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Speaker 1: I love running against Crooked Hillary. I love that Crooked

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. Crooked Hillary. He is a crooked one.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newscomb, he's the governor of California.

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Speaker 1: He signed Newscomb. Michael, they're going to cover Pocahontas.

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Speaker 3: I've named him deranged Jack Smith.

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Speaker 2: We have a representative in Congress who they say was.

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Speaker 3: Here a long time ago.

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Speaker 3: But you know what I like.

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Speaker 1: The people were talking about funny or sad. I think

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Speaker 1: it's more sad than funny. He has one ability I

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Speaker 1: Another five years? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.

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Speaker 1: Rocketman is on a suicide mission for himself.

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Speaker 4: Raised suspect in the January sixth pipe bomb case.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a moment.

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Speaker 4: In the next segment, we'll talk to a Treasury Department

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Speaker 1: That's a terrible thing, a horrible thing. Right.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's listen to then Senator Joe Biden, Democrat from Delaware,

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Speaker 6: It's one that Berri show, Well, you know, things are

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Speaker 1: Of course it has to have his name on it.

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Speaker 4: He's the one that came up with it, a Trump account,

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Speaker 1: What is the Trump account? How does it work?

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Speaker 1: Who qualifies for it? When does it begin?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So the Trump accounts, which are going to go

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Speaker 1: Luke gets it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's right, It comes down to ownership.

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Speaker 7: In these programs, these Trump accounts are going to give

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Speaker 1: I love it. I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about children born beginning January first of this year,

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Speaker 4: It is a pilot program. That's who qualifies. Look, how

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Speaker 1: You know, I was.

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Speaker 7: I had the pleasure of being nominated by the President

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Speaker 7: And as part of that, I've been tasked with helping

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Speaker 7: Secretary and for President Jones. But one thing on your

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Speaker 1: Any children can create these accounts.

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Speaker 7: And you know Michael Dell's historic announcement on Tuesday six

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Speaker 1: You know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: They're thirty, forty, fifty sixty, you're tromount retirement level dollars.

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Speaker 1: And we can each set aside a dollar. That's easy

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Speaker 4: It's amazing to get people to start thinking in terms

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Speaker 4: the concept. Look Pettitt, Treasury Department Assistant Secretary for Financial Markets.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, good sir, thanks for having me there.

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Speaker 4: The first I've been destroying the black community is to

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Speaker 1: Michael Show, why don't we.

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Speaker 6: Ask missus Willie Brown if Kamala Harris cares about black families.

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Speaker 4: The announcement was made this morning the press conference early

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Speaker 1: Near the RNC, one near the DNC.

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Speaker 1: Lot of money. I'm sure he was making a lot

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Speaker 4: Now he can come back out and do that, but

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Speaker 4: sure there are days where he's grinding away and beating

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Speaker 4: And I think he'll have a lot of good stories

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Speaker 4: it's always a little interesting. They asked a neighbor of

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Speaker 4: But I will say this, there's a problem in this

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Speaker 4: This little turd Afghan that drove across the country, left

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Speaker 4: And yet there were those brothers. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 4: I want these people tried swiftly and put to death.

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Speaker 4: I want my country back. I am tired of people

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Speaker 4: guy who killed Charlie Kirk. Nobody even talks about that anymore.

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Speaker 4: What about him? What do we waiting on? What are

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Speaker 1: I am tired. We have grown weak as a nation.

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Speaker 4: These people are celebrated as if as if they're the

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Speaker 4: You got these people gluing themselves, gluing their hands to

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Speaker 4: Why how do they know we're gonna get them out?

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Speaker 4: You glued yourself, Okay, that's what my parents would have done.

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Speaker 4: Now suffer the consequences. The word legend is overused so

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Speaker 4: Steve Cropper was a legend. He ran the talent and

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Speaker 4: And Bill Brower said, Elvis, I can't do that. I've

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Speaker 4: that's the story of TG. Shepherd, the country music singer

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Speaker 4: who started at Stax Record, which was the soul operation

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Speaker 4: of the time. And you have two white guys there,

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Speaker 4: Bill Brower, TG. Shepherd and Steve Cropper. Cropper would be

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Speaker 4: the guitarist and bandleader for Booker t and the MG's.

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Speaker 4: He would be the inspiration and muse for Otis Redding

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Speaker 4: and sitting by the dock of the Bay, Sitting on

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Speaker 4: the dock of the Bay, which he got co writing

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Speaker 4: credit for because Otis died before the song was finished

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Speaker 4: and Steve Cropper had to go back into the studio

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Speaker 4: and finish it. The famous whistling segment was a place

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Speaker 4: marker because Otis couldn't figure out what to put in there,

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Speaker 4: so he just whistled it. And he would die shortly

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Speaker 4: thereafter in a plane crash in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Steve Cropper was devastated and.

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Speaker 4: It took him a little while so he was able

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Speaker 4: to go into the studio and listen to what they had,

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Speaker 4: the tapes they had dubbed and they had recorded, and

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Speaker 4: to put it together and publish it, and of course

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Speaker 4: the rest is history. It turns out to be that

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Speaker 4: was never an album, that was never a song of

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Speaker 4: a quality that was meant to be released, but look

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Speaker 4: what it went on to do. Steve Cropper would be

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Speaker 4: the force behind Sam and Dave. He would be the

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Speaker 4: force behind so much of what was going on at

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Speaker 4: Stax Records at the time. There's a great documentary on

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Speaker 4: Stacks that includes a lot about Crop. And then of

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Speaker 4: course the Blues Brothers came along and he and Donald

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Speaker 4: Duck Dunn, his best friend, would be the backing, the

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Speaker 4: real musician behind the Blues Brothers, and that would give

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Speaker 4: them a whole new audience and a whole new generation

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Speaker 4: and a whole more mainstream following. It's an incredible, incredible

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Speaker 4: life of an incredible man. I met him when I

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Speaker 4: had come for an event that WLAC, which Dan endhim

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Speaker 4: at the time was the market manager, and he said, look,

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Speaker 4: we got a lot of momentum for you in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you come here and we'll do a listener event.

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Speaker 4: And I'd only been on the air for a few months,

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Speaker 4: but I was really excited. I was getting a lot

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Speaker 4: of emails. I remember Eddie Raven sent me an email

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Speaker 4: like a week after we were on the air, and

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Speaker 4: all these folks from Nashville were reaching out and saying,

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Speaker 4: we love your show here, and so I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to do an event and nobody shows up.

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Speaker 1: That looks bad.

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Speaker 4: So I waited about another month and finally I said,

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Speaker 4: all right, we'll do.

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Speaker 1: It, and we were going to do it.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember where exactly, but it turned out the

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Speaker 4: response they were getting at the station was big enough

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Speaker 4: that they said we need a bigger venue. So for

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Speaker 4: the first one we did, we didn't have a musical act.

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Speaker 4: We would later do that, but I just they would

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Speaker 4: just come out and meet Michael Berry. And so people

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Speaker 4: brought stuff for me to sign, which is silly because

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Speaker 4: I don't feel like I should be signing autographs and

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Speaker 4: then shake your hand and take a photo.

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Speaker 1: Well, the lines snaked down the road and it was hot.

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Speaker 4: It was a summer day, and our market manager at

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Speaker 4: the time, Dan Inham, come in. He said, hey, Steve

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Speaker 4: Cropper's here and he was standing out in the heat.

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Speaker 4: And I said, well, go get him and bring him

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Speaker 4: in and he said, he said, he doesn't want to.

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Speaker 4: He said he needs to wait and line like everyone else.

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Speaker 4: So he did. When he got up there where we

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Speaker 4: spent some time talking and he said, well, look, you

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Speaker 4: need to talk to these people, so here's my number,

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Speaker 4: give me a call. I did that night. Got to

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Speaker 4: know him and his wife Angel. They came to Houston

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Speaker 4: to see us. We went to Nashville to see them,

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Speaker 4: and we would text and we would talk a lot.

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Speaker 4: He did a concert for me in Houston. He spent

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Speaker 4: spent time with us in the studio. We'll post those interviews.

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Speaker 4: There are a whole lot of fun but mostly he

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Speaker 4: just became a friend and someone that I enjoyed walking

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Speaker 4: down the memory lane of his life with him. And

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Speaker 4: there's constant I'm always watching music video of music documentaries,

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Speaker 4: and there are constant there. He is constantly popping up

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Speaker 4: and text him crop I didn't know you worked with

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Speaker 4: this guy, and he was like yeah, And he would

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Speaker 4: tell me stories about So he'd be on tour and it's, ah,

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Speaker 4: let me figure out what time it is in Houston,

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Speaker 4: but right now it's it's one o'clock in the morning

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Speaker 4: in London and I'm over here playing with the animals.

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Speaker 4: And he loved playing with the animals because he got

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Speaker 4: to play House of the Rise and Sun and that

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Speaker 4: was one of his favorite songs to play. And one

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Speaker 4: time he texted me and he was in Dallas and

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Speaker 4: he was with h who is a dom Doom Doom,

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Speaker 4: Doom doom. What's the guy's name that does the tube

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Speaker 4: out of his mouth?

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Speaker 1: And uh.

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Speaker 4: Oh, shoot, what's his name? You know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 4: Peter Frampton.

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Speaker 1: Dog. I can't stand when I can't remember names.

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Speaker 4: And Frampton was doing this thing, Frampton and his band

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Speaker 4: of guitars or so.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was called, but it was, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Frampton such a legend that he would go on

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Speaker 4: tour and it was gonna and Clapton was cycling off

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Speaker 4: and Cropper was cycling on. And you talk about guitarists, right,

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Speaker 4: but he would have this this group of guitarists on

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Speaker 4: stage with him and it was like an all star cast. Anyway,

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00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 4: a great music legend, a great coach and mentor to

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Speaker 4: a lot of other people, helped a lot of other

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Speaker 4: people succeed, and a good friend. I know his wife

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Speaker 4: angel is h is hurting.

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Speaker 1: He was a real love affair. They were a wonderful couple.

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Speaker 4: And his kids and his many friends in music and

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Speaker 4: his many, many, many fans of which we all are one.

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Speaker 4: Rest in peace, Steve Cropper, great Man,