1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Today, I appeared on the p b D podcast. It's 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: one of the largest in the country, with the subscribership 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: of over one million people. Most of those people don't 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: see the world the way that I do, or probably 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: the way that you do. Nevertheless, into the lions, then 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I went so to speak. There, we debated, talked about 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: some of the main challenges the country's facing, and I 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: confronted some conspiracies anti Semitic troops, and I challenged something 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: that is in my view nonsensical, the idea that Trump 10 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: isn't part of the establishment camp. He's not part of 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: their group. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: He's not kicking it with you know, a McConnell or 13 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: Schumer or Pelosi or Hillary. He's not part of their camp. 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: He's not part of up. But they hate this guy. 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: They can't stand this guy, even though over the years 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: he gave him all the money. I guess, like, when 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: you sit and you talk about like the establishment and 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: the side, I get the construct right, and the US 19 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and the them and the puppets strings in the day 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: and everything. But here's the deal, Donald Trump and everyone 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: who worked for him, these are immensely powerful people. Are 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: you going to tell me Wilbur Ross isn't part of 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: the establishment. That the hedge fund titan Ken Griffin isn't 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: part of the establishment. Steve Schwartzman, right, a Blackstone who 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: funded Trump isn't part of the establishment. Come on. I 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: pointed out that Donald Trump is a child of immense 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: privilege who was handed a company that he bankrupted many times, 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: including bankruptcies involving the operation of a casino, which is 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: extremely tough to do, especially in the state of New Jersey. Nevertheless, 30 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump managed to do it. This week he was 31 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: convicted of a fraud in a New York City court. 32 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: Today I entered a world where the search for explanation 33 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: leads down a rabbit hole where trails or conflated mixed 34 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: together conspiracies are born. One of the dominant features of 35 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: this moment in American politics is the fight against the 36 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: ubiquitous yet invisible they If you watch Fox News coverage 37 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: where you listen to the PbD podcasts, well, you will 38 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: hear throughout or connections, not firm connections, not facts, not 39 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: something that would be recognizable as a fact through the 40 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: scientific method, not something that is clearly visible, but complexity, 41 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: the accumulation of power by special interests, All of these 42 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: things which are true, are twisted just a bit. And 43 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: so what is true is that an American pharmaceutical industry 44 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: spends three hundred million dollars a year to influence public policy. 45 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: What's true is that billionaires can write checks of staggering 46 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: dimensions ten million, twenty thirty forty fifty million dollars to 47 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: presidential candidates. What's true is Saudi Arabia and foreign countries 48 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: hire some of the biggest pr firms in the world. 49 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: It's some of the biggest and most powerful lobbyists in Washington, 50 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: d c. To advance their interests against the American interest. 51 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: All of those things are true. It's also true that 52 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: America's companies are bigger, more profitable, and more powerful than 53 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: they have ever been. It is true that those companies 54 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: are controlling vast segments of the economy monopolistically. All of 55 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: this accumulated together naturally leads people to look at it, 56 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: understand it, and unfortunately, in the age of the Internet, 57 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: it takes many people down a rabbit hole and the 58 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: place they end up is a place that was evidenced 59 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: today on the PbD podcast, which is this that one party, 60 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: the Democrats, is the party of the establishment, joined by 61 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: other people who have served competently in government. There are 62 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: no conspiracies visible or otherwise except for the conspiracy that 63 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: played out in plain sight, which was the conspiracy to 64 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: deny an election, to upend the peaceful transition of power, 65 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: to install a dictator into the Oval office. That's what 66 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: we talked about, and when we did, things went off. 67 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: The rail attack on the sixth was incited by one 68 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: of the forty four people in the history of the 69 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: country who's raised his hand and swore the thirty five 70 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: word oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of 71 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: the United States period. It was the most grotesque betrayal 72 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: an abdication of presidential responsibility in American history. It constitutionally 73 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: disqualifies him, in my estimation, from holding office. Ever again, 74 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: how could anybody look at what happened? Look at what happened? 75 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: It was a tour. How fucking dare you now? I 76 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: should say there were four people in the room and 77 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: there was only one maga fanatic. Let me also say, 78 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: when this was over, that guy ran out of the 79 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: room faster than Josh Howley down a Senate hallway or 80 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz into the closet after the insurrection he incited. 81 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: Here's the deal. January sixth was the greatest crime in 82 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: American history, and we talked about it. I was asked 83 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a terrible question, a terrible question because the choice is 84 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: a terrible one. But there was a choice presented, and 85 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: I gave an answer. January sixth attack was an attack 86 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: on the foundation of the American way of life that 87 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: was existential because it was committed by domestic enemies, not 88 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: foreign enemies. The question wasn't about what day killed more people. 89 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: The question was what was the more dangerous attack for America? 90 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: And it was the attack by Americans incited by a 91 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: president against the American constitution. And we had that argument, 92 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: and this is what it was. 93 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: Call it attack. But from the videos that we saw, 94 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: Steve from Twitter and just undercover cameras, it didn't look 95 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: like an attack. If just if somebody talking, I'm just 96 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: talking about all the videos that we've seen undercovering man, 97 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: all the videos, all the videos on Twitter. 98 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: All the videls on Twitter. Yeah, hold on, are you 99 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: guys going to really say here and fucking tell me 100 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: that the attack on January sixth didn't happen, That the violence, 101 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: the bludgeoning of the police officers didn't happen because there's 102 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: some bullshit here we go. 103 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: I'll give you my mind, Steve. I'll give you my opinion, 104 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: and then you could talk. First of all, you can 105 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: it's not an opinion. Hold on an opinion to see 106 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: the shaman getting guided a wrong mister, the guy the 107 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: guy was supposed to be, this crazy. 108 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: Wild man there. 109 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: Okay, here, here's my question, what, Steve, how do you 110 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: explain the countless FBI agents in plin uniform that Congress 111 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: won't even tell us how many because. 112 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: It didn't happen. Oh no, no, and it didn't. The 113 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: thing about it is, it's very disturbing to be face 114 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: to face with somebody who is so for gone, so 115 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: far down a rabbit brain wak. They they can't tell 116 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: what reality is. It was an incredible moment when this 117 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: guy points to the television screen in the room and 118 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: they're playing as his evidence to support his position the 119 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: January sixth didn't happen. Is Tucker Carlson's videos from Fox 120 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: News an extraordinary moment. This is the impact of the propaganda. 121 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: This is the information that is going out to the 122 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: American people, And I'm quite clear with this liar, this 123 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: professional delusionist, about the damage that he's doing to the country. 124 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: His untinged response speaks for itself. But it is the snarling, 125 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: dangerous face of the movement. There it is. It didn't 126 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: take much to unmask it, to peel it back, to 127 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: incite him, so to speak with the truth which he 128 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear. Everybody is entitled to their opinion 129 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: in America, but they're not entitled to assert conspiracies as 130 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: fact unchallenged. They're not entitled to talk about the globalists 131 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: with ignorance that it's a slur often used about Jews, 132 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: and I talked about that this is a moment that 133 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: requires listening, understanding, empathy, an ability to appreciate why it 134 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: is that people vote for Donald Trump. We talked about 135 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: it at the beginning. I've I've tim before as a 136 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: philosopher a fuck yousm I did so again today and 137 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: I expanded on it. So, you have sixty percent of 138 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: the country that's living paycheck to paycheck. Forty percent don't 139 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: have four hundred dollars cash available. So one of the 140 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: things right just in this moment, that we're constantly told 141 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: in the country by the media, and I don't like 142 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: the phrase the media because it is fragmented, it's not monolithic. 143 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: But the thing that we're told over and over again 144 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: is a construct, is that the country is a hopelessly 145 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: divided and b evenly divided. It's not true. Seventy five 146 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: percent of the country politically does not want the Biden 147 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Trump rematch. We agree on that. Seventy five percent is 148 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: a big number. You have three out of four people 149 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: in the country, So that includes people who like Trump, 150 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: don't like Trump, like Biden, don't like Biden, don't want 151 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: the matchup. When you have trust that collapses to the 152 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: degree that it has collapsed across the board, every institution, Catholic, 153 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: church boy, scouts, in the culture. Now the military is 154 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: going over the cliff as well, right, collapse of trust 155 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: when you lower the expectations to zero, which is that 156 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: people have no expectation that government is going to do 157 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: anything for them. When you take away all expectation, you 158 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: get a guy like Trump says, well, I'll deliver a 159 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: fuck you to the people that you blame for the 160 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: loss of the American dream, the loss of your home 161 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: eight years ago, the pressure that you feel. And so 162 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Trump delivers every day. He never fails. He has all 163 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: all the people that condescend to everyone in the country. 164 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: We had an opiate epidemic and still do in America 165 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: that was invisible, had a million people that were killed. 166 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: It was invisible as a national issue to twenty sixteen. 167 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: So Trump is their vessel, right people saying fuck you. 168 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: It's important if you oppose Trump fiercely like I do, 169 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: to understand his appeal because it must be defeated. The grievance, 170 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: though preposterous, is vivid, is real in the imaginations and 171 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: minds of millions of people. Sometimes I'm critical of the 172 00:13:52,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration. I'm critical of their communications. Understanding that every 173 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: hour of every day they are a sale as corrupt, senile, 174 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: and incompetent. Presiding over an economic calamity where America's cities 175 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: have been burned down seems completely lost on them. I 176 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: went on this podcast today because I'll say what I 177 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: have to say anywhere, and for the most part, that's 178 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: how it played out today. But the truth is, you 179 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: can't talk for an hour about any of this stuff 180 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: without the truth coming to the surface. And the truth 181 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: is exactly what you saw. I stood up to it. 182 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: I'll keep doing that. I hope you'll keep subscribing to 183 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: The Warning and support the mission of this community.