WEBVTT - Another Conversation About Snitching? 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:02.480 What's up? 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.439 And welcome back to another episode of No Sealers Podcast 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:14.760 with your host. Now, fuck that with your loaw glasses, Malone. 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.439 This is some crazy shit and I can't believe we 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:24.720 having another conversation about this. But there's two problems. One 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:29.640 problem is people still don't understand the definition of snitching. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.559 That's one problem. Yes, you know what I mean, And 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:36.959 I get why because with street times, this is why 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.320 we need to write the cryption area. This is why, 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:43.120 because I think people Google and it's like, you can't 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:48.320 trust Google with street y know, with slang, with culture 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:50.559 like it it's Google. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:51.640 You know what I'm saying. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.960 Like, if I'm not writing for maybe I'll need to 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:55.200 apply to write all of. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:59.800 The slang parts for Google, like a cultural things for Google. 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:01.720 They need to come, like I need to pitch that, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.120 I need to send them niggas my resume. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:04.440 Bro. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.480 I agree, and we could do the you do the 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.400 cryption area, and then to keep it, you know, from 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.600 being one and done, you could have the Cryptcyclopedia where 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.920 your new volumes continue to come out all the time like. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:19.520 That, like that the Sea Cyclopedia. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:28.280 Yeah, Encyclopedia, Yeah, the Encyclopoedia, the c Cyclopedia for t yeah. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:32.200 So yeah, it's these that have Britannica gonna be critic Cryptannica. 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.200 So anyway, So one they don't know the definition. They 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.400 don't know the definition of snitches. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:43.440 Still, I think it's deeper than that. 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.280 But two, you know what else it is, it's people who. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.480 Okay, when you start living your life in the streets, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:57.680 right you you are raising the culture of things. It's 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.440 not so much that somebody sits you down the day. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.560 I mean, no different than being an Italian, right, nobody 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.760 sits you down and say, hey, Pete, this is how 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:06.680 you be Italian. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:07.760 Hey Pete. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:13.720 It's like you learn over time the culture. So also 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.440 you learn the nuances of it. Now, there are rules 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.200 that when you're talking to people outside of culture and 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.960 you say, hey, these are the rules, you try to 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.560 give it to them in a real brief kind of like. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.640 In a really simplistic way. 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.600 So like culturally, you know, when you start talking about 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:38.400 any level of street, urban culture or criminals period. Don't 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.919 talk to the police is the general context of the conversation. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:47.960 Do not make statements to the police, right, don't make statements. 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.680 They'll simplify say, don't talk to the police. Now that 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:53.160 doesn't mean the police that drive by your house you 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:55.200 can't say hi, or if the police say hey, what's 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.560 going on, or you can't say that. It's a nuance 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:03.800 that shouldn't have to be explained because culturally you're raised. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:04.200 To understand it. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:09.000 Yeah, nobody's gonna call you a snitch if somebody breaks 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.640 in your car, right, if somebody breaks in your fucking 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.280 car and steals your shit, if you call the police 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.760 and get a police report to get your insurance, nobody's 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.160 going to call you a snitch. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.440 Nobody's gonna call you a snitch. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.639 But even though the rule to the general population when 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.520 we're talking about this is don't talk to the police, 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:34.800 that's not what that means. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:36.720 And it's tough because it's nuances. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:41.480 And that's my problem is when we're trying to translate 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:48.640 the culture to the uncultured, that's the problem. It's like 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:53.200 trying to tell someone who doesn't have soul how to 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.400 make soul food. Like if you see people like if 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.320 you see old sisters, like, oh. 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.840 Black women cook, they don't need a measuring cup. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.880 Yeah yeah, I mean, if you watch an old Northern 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.360 Italian lady make a pizza, you know what I mean 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.400 that came from the ghettos of Italy. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.600 She doesn't really need a measuring cup. She just does 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.000 this shit right. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.760 And when the uncultured tried to do it, they need 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.400 a measuring cup because they don't have the years and 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.080 years of not just experience, but the lineage of soul 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.640 to connect to. And that's the thing with freed urban 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:36.279 culture in general, like it's certain things that we know 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:42.240 without even having to say. Like I watched so many 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.279 people make It's been so many conversations over the last 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.120 week or two about people talking snitching stuff, and it's 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:55.000 just irritating me so much because it's simple. It's fucking simple. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:05:00.440 But I'm starting to realize it's only simple to me. Sure, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.240 if somebody called the police and reported it to they 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:09.160 insurance company says somebody broke in their car, I know 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:14.960 that's not snitchy. Yeah, if somebody you know what I mean, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:20.920 Even if a gangster knew somebody was raping or a 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.720 pedophile when he called the police, I wouldn't call that 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.200 person a snitch. Nobody in the community would call that 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:31.080 person a snitch. They might call him a bitch because 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.640 that he didn't kill the person who was who was 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.720 the pedophile. But they're not going to call him a snitch. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:40.359 They're not going to disassociate themselves with him because he 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.320 told the police on a pedophile. They're going to call 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.640 him a bitch because they're gonna be like, why you didn't 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.160 do nothing to this motherfucker. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.400 Sure, I'll go a step further. 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:53.960 The way it boils down to me when I look 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.440 at it, you have, as you said before, if you're 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:06.279 in the underworld lifestyle or whatever, you're committed to that 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.480 that's where you are. You have a responsibility to uphold 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:11.920 that lifestyle. 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.320 It becomes your standards. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:21.479 On Similarly, if you're in general society, you have a 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:26.920 responsibility to uphold the standards for that lifestyle. It's a tradition, yes, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:31.560 and they're both necessary for the sustainability of each world. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.800 Sure, if you're not. 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.279 Testifying and doing your job to clean up your normal 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:44.560 world lifestyle, you're failing in your commitment to your community. 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:49.440 If you're snitching out and corroding the underworld, you're failing 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.280 your commitment to that community. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:53.560 Yeah. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:07:03.599 So, therefore, if you're it comes down to people failing 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:08.039 to buy into who exactly they really are. If you're 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.000 if you're a square, you shouldn't even be allowed to. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.040 Say the word snitch. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.640 Exactly. You shouldn't. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.800 It's not even your business to criticize somebody else for stitching, 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.720 because they're doing what is supposed to happen in your world. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.320 You should be happy about. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:22.960 That, exactly. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.920 I have said something happened with Drake where he got 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:32.040 robbed at that that whatever, that Asian food spot in 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.480 Toronto that Kendrick made a popular newhaut King. I forgot 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.040 the name of it. I got the New Hauk King. 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.320 They got the Kendrick Special or the Kato Special whatever. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:48.200 But Drake got robbed there, right, and he called the police. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.960 He gave a statement. Right. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.160 Somebody asked me why I didn't care, Like why didn't 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.120 you say nothing then? And I'm like, I'm not saying 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.960 nothing now. Drake should have called the police. He's reported 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.280 to the proper authority because Drake is not thugging. You know, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.800 I never cared that Lil Wayne had a problem with 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.680 Drake oversleeping with the girl, or why Puff put his 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.280 hands on him and he didn't fight back, or y 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.560 t I's man pissed on him and he didn't do nothing. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.360 You know why I never had a problem with that 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.080 or never called Drake out of his name over that, 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.960 because Drake is not that kind of person. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.920 He's a general population person. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.880 Now I can get if he's starting to confuse himself, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.719 if he's starting to walk the thin line, because when 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.880 you look at certain things like what's going on with 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:45.720 them and the exol camp, you know, the weekend's camp. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:53.079 And Okay, a security guard at one of the primary people's. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.560 House, cash House, right, Cash House, gets shot. 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.360 And then somebody at Drake's at the embassy in Toronto, 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.120 the sound security guard that works not the same security 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:04.160 guard rather, but a security guard that works almost in 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:08.800 the same position, he gets shot. Now I'm starting to worry, Like, bro, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:10.199 are you playing street? 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:10.560 Like? 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.200 Are you playing street like? 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.800 This is something you don't play with, Like, yes, you 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.840 have tons of money, tons of resources, but that's not. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.920 What this is about. Like they will find a way 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.559 and they will break you down. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.400 If you didn't grow up in this culturally, it's not 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.640 something you pick up and play with you. I mean, 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:32.040 that's why I never called him a snitch, because I 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:35.240 knew he was a part of general population, you. 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:35.600 Know what I mean? 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:41.640 In Gunner situation, like, see, I don't know him, but 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.120 I'm listening to what he's saying. Now, Drake is different 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.680 because I do kind of have knowledge of who he is. 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.120 I've met him, I've interacted with him. Some people I 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.280 really fuck with interact with him, so I know he's 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:59.040 a part of general population minus all the conversations Gunner shit, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.600 you hang in around some pretty unsavory characters. That's really 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.680 good guys in my world, and you're saying you're a 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:07.679 crypt so. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.360 I'm taking you at face value. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.640 Now my homie is just telling me, like last is no, 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.960 he has never been in this life. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.760 And he's like, you remember he had the Crime. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.240 Stoppers video where or the video on the news where 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.319 his cousin got shot. 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:24.160 And I'm like, yeah, that's true. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:25.960 It's like, you think we would have let him come 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.199 up in the world of hip hop and talk that 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.600 shit if we thought, you know what I mean, he 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.720 was like us. And then he told or he did 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.000 that video that would be a problem and I'm like, yeah, 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:36.720 that makes sense. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:38.560 I'm like, but why would y'all? 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.040 And then it hit me like, of course hip hop 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.920 is not going to get in the way of people 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:49.120 that come from the community trying to change their life economically, you. 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:49.520 Know what I mean. 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:54.040 We understand they stand up dudes, but it's weird when 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.240 you see people that don't tell you anything, so like 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:01.080 it's crazy to learn, like, now, oh, he's not like 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.480 that at all. He's just not like that. So now 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.320 it's like, then, well is he a snitch because you 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:13.319 know he he you know, because he folded on thug 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.880 and took a deal where he had to admit where 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:19.160 he said other people around him. First off, in a 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:23.160 rico case, if you emit someone's a gang, you're you're 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.319 pretty much making him lose the case because that's the point. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.320 And if you emit crimes were happening in the name 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:34.400 of this alleged gang, guess what that's you. You're helping 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.800 them convict on a rico charge. Now, if they're gonna 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:37.959 be at a hit him with all the rest of 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.360 the stuff is different. But if you're telling me now 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:45.320 that Gunn had never been that, then shit, now I 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.600 look stupidcause it's like, oh, this is a general my bad. 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.480 I thought he was like us. I thought anybody who's 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:52.920 talking like this, And then I had to kind of 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.120 correct myself because Drake is talking like this and I 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:55.600 know better. 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:03.520 Sure some of that is like, well, if you're not, 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:11.240 you know, with that lifestyle, you shouldn't even have the knowledge. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:17.760 You know, at some point, why are you even able 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.400 to viably testify about any of this shit. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:28.200 If you're not you know what I'm saying. Well, it's 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:29.000 like like. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.079 Like he should be insulated from enough viable information, Like 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.280 if you're responsible, if Thug is responsible and stuff like that, sure, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.760 why would you why you got squares playing tag along 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.000 and doing right along? 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.640 Like it's you know what I'm saying, it's not an internship. 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.000 Yeah, that's a great point. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.360 Doug probably had did mess up if he was in 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.559 any of that, any of that situation. 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:57.040 Thug messed up, You're right. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.439 Yeah, I mean otherwise it's like, are these people uh 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.840 uh you know credible criminal syndicate? 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:06.040 Yes? 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.439 Why do you think that? I don't really heard that 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:13.560 they were. That's not the most viable testimony. I was 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.520 there when they did a B C D e FG 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.400 is more viable. And there you have it. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.600 It's crazy because as much as I like I tell 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.440 Head all the time, I'm like like DJ Head, like 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.080 you came up in the streets, so you know the rules. 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.440 Like Head very much is somebody who came up in 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.680 the streets. Now it's Head ever really committed crimes, I'm 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.120 sure to some degree, like some some minor infractions. You know, 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.120 he's a skateboarder, so I'm sure he's skateboarder at some places. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.679 But Head understands the rules. But you're right as somebody 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.960 that really as somebody that's thugging. I would like when 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.040 stuff would happen, I would tell here like, hey, if 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.240 this go down, go get the car. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.760 Just go get the car. Yo. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:01.839 If something start, just go he like, glasses, I'm not 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:03.920 no punk, and I'm like, it's not about being a punk, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.679 Like I think you will fight everybody here. I don't 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.040 think that you are scared to have a fist fight. 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.400 You a man, I said, But if it starts to 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.080 become something illegal, I don't want you to have to 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.000 put these things, you know what I mean. I don't 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.800 want to have to put you the task to where 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.240 you see these things. Now, now you have to stand 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.240 up somewhere that you really kept yourself out of all 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:29.400 these problems. Hell Pun, you know, shout out to Pun, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.320 shout out to means and different people that I know 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.680 that came up from the same background like me, thugging, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.000 I wouldn't even let them get in trouble. Shout out 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.200 to a Shad Chad's new Cali catering. When Shad would 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.920 be around me, I wouldn't even let them get in trouble. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.240 I'm like, my goal for y'all is to get you 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.400 out of the same trouble like this got me out 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.600 of the troubles that I was in. So I wouldn't 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.520 even let them get into Shenanigan or try to start fighting. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:55.040 I'm like a calm down. We didn't come way up 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:57.520 here to do the same thing we was doing around 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:58.440 the corner from home. 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.800 So, and there's exposure in both ways. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.440 It's likely you bring people around now they're exposed to 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:12.080 being some loosely defined participant, so it exposes them to risk, 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.480 which they're going to want to offload, which exposes in 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:17.600 turn you to risk. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.360 Well, it brings me to my thought, and it's with 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.080 how long would you say? 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:28.760 Now? 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.720 It's not fair people, because you very much are general population, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.320 but you have an edge and you do have a 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.240 nuance about you that can understand a little more layers 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.520 than the average person in general population about street life. 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:45.080 And I think it's because you're somebody who has truly 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.720 self self appointed, like you have shame and you have 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:52.960 dignity like you, you know what I mean. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.400 You care waha way more shame. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.960 Shame in twenty twenty four when they're trying to purge 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.200 everyone of shame, says a lot about you. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.520 So I can, I can honor you. I can. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.000 I'm honored to have this conversation with you, even as 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:13.320 a person shat you feel me? So, how long would 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:18.280 be a good enough time? How long would be a 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:22.000 nice amount of time before you take a person that's 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.800 in the underworld or in the criminal lifestyle and then 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.640 they change their life and they become a person in 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.760 general population to where they can run a business and 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:37.880 use the police assistance like any other taxpaying citizen in America. 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.680 How far removed do you have to be from thugging 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:42.720 from thug them? 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.520 Depends on the person, It depends on the circumstances. I mean, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.400 I'll say it could be twenty four hours. If you're 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.640 doing square shitty, you're done with that and you're gonna 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.480 deal with square things in a square way. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:01.840 Then that's what you do. If you know you're being 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.200 If you still have old beefs that. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.920 Come after you, whatever the hell, then you know how 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.639 you want to settle those is how you want to 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.800 settle those. But like if it's if you did whatever 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.720 two years ago and it's not under it hasn't expired yet, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:18.280 you know what I mean. 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:20.680 But you've changed your life. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.640 You're still liable for those things that you did when 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:25.920 you were in that life. You can't walk away from 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.120 that and now testify on them because I'm out now. 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:30.840 You did that on the day that you did that, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.200 So that's with you as long as that thing is 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:34.240 available to be with you. 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.280 But that's fair, you know. 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.199 But once you're done, you don't have to. You know, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.520 somebody wants to threaten and extort you because you opened 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.640 up a hardware store and you're done. If you're done, 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:47.760 and every and and the people around you who you 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:49.880 did stuff with acknowledge that you're done in this cold and. 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.680 Go ahead and say, hey man, blah blah blah, peat 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.280 I'm being extorted by bib over there. I'm just trying 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:56.720 to run a square hardware store. 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.800 Do you think you have to separate from the crowd. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.600 I was thinking about that, right, Like, is it fair 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:08.240 to say you're not thugging if the crowd you still 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.760 hanging around is thugging, you know what I mean? 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.920 Because there has to be understanding. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.320 The crowd has to know that you're not, and you 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.240 have to know that you're not, and you have to 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.280 understand it's cool to play dominoes at the barbecue, but 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.600 it isn't cool to ride along in the shit if 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:27.359 that's not what you want to be involved in. Because 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:28.920 I've been at enough of those things, with enough of 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.280 those people, enough of those times. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.720 My limitations know what I do and don't do. 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:38.800 Sure, I was thinking same thing. I was just thinking 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:39.320 about it. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:44.440 And I was like, Bunbee is going through this case right, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:51.560 and somebody tried to well, they did a home invasion 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.240 on his home and the burglar or the perpetrator end 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.600 up getting shot. This is twenty nineteen roughly, so they 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.639 ran up on Bunn and his wife Queenie. Shout out 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.480 to Bun real stand up brother. Always has been rest 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.760 in peace, pimp. But is it wrong that I look 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.280 at Bun like bun has been so successful for the 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.520 last twenty years? 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.240 You know, I mean even before that. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:22.280 I'm talking about since I've met him in pimping them, right, 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:26.359 They've been successful for so long that I know Bun 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:28.520 is not of this life anymore. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:29.280 Now. 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.320 I think Bun lived the life at one time that 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.720 was a little bit more street, But I don't think 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.920 Bunn has lived a street life. 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:37.320 And I don't know. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.439 Fifteen years at best, you know what I'm saying. This 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:44.760 man opened a burger franchise, you I mean, he's been 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.840 a successful rapper, you know what I mean, a pundit 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:51.920 on television shows when it comes to black issues and rites. 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.760 And I saw somebody post him on a stand in 0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.560 him crying, going through this deep memory of how it 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.639 has messed his wife up to where you know she 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.680 was really should because somebody came into the place that's 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:09.240 supposed to be private for you. Sure, that's supposed to 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.159 be private for you, you know what I mean, And 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.080 somebody came and invaded that space and it left a crazy, 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.800 you know, like effect on his old lady, you know 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.520 what I mean, on Queenie. And it's like he has to 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.000 tell because this is part of his case. This dude 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.320 got shot. It could put Bun in trouble, you know, 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.199 him defending his household, and I saw a thread of people, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.280 young people, people who work at Cuba kudezk calling him 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:40.280 a snitch, and I'm like, like, this is the problem. 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.840 This is why I made that big deal out of 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.320 declaring Drake is not hip hop, because you have to 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.560 understand the type of people that can be held accountable 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:54.320 and that should be speaking for the culture of this life. 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.000 Because if you have people that speak for this culture 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.720 that don't quite understand it, even if they don't have 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.679 the same opinion as me, they have some kind of 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.679 opinion that's rooted in a level of that's not fear, 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:12.200 Like it's too many people speaking on things based out 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:12.679 of fear. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.080 But back to the bunch. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.200 So it's a thread of young people who probably work 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:18.639 at cubicles calling this man a snitch, and I'm like, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.679 that's not what that means. And it's so frustrating because 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.640 it's like, bro, like, it's a really simple thing if 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.560 you was raised into it culturally. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.240 And it hit me. 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:36.199 It's so many black people in America that are not 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:44.280 culturally involved with shit. They are really Americans. They are 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:48.200 fucking Americans. And I'm talking about Pete, real Americans. I'm 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:55.879 talking about American American. They as American as America, and 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.600 they feel like because their skin is dark or because 0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.720 white people don't like them, that they are a part 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:06.240 of the culture. And it's like, no fool, you're getting 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:09.399 treated like that way because white people treat everybody that 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.320