1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Wow, um, what is welcome to another edition of the 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live Podcast? Is me your man? MG Marcus 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Grand alongside the Fantasy viper Graham Barfield. Michael Fabiano is 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: off being famous over risch Eismen right now. So yeah, 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Well it's the perpose of just no one knowing who 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: we are, so right, exactly. Anonymity, man, it has its benefits. Fast, uh, 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: I want to start. Actually, I had a very fun weekend. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: If you follow me on Twitter, you saw that I 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: had the good fortune to be invited to can'ton Ohio 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: for the King's Classic Draft, the second edition of it. 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: Um a lot of fun. I did a fourteen team auction, 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: which I can say is the first time I've ever 13 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: done one of those. Yeah, it's a beast. It has 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: to be man like. Auction drafts are are actually my 15 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: favorite way of drafting. I just think there's so much 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: more game theory and everyone has access to the whole 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: player pool. I just think it makes for just a 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: better draft experience. But fourteen teams, that's a complete bear. 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: It is. It is an absolute beast. It was a 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: lot of fun. We'll have Mike tag Leer from Fantasy 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: Pros coming on a little bit later. He and I 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: were there together, sitting next to each other on one 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of the couches there. But I also wanted to get 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: a shout out to Bob Lung at Big Guy Fantasy 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: Sports Brad Evans over at Yahoo. They are the two 26 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: masterminds behind this King's Classic. Uh. And like I said, 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: three two years, it's been a lot of fun. It 28 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: has become kind of a fun networking event as well. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: It was nice to to meet people that I only 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: knew via Twitter or just you know, meet folks that 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: I had never met before. It was a lot of 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: fun and and a huge thanks to the folks at 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame for letting a bunch 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: of nerds come and crashed there for several hours and 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,559 Speaker 1: do fantasy drafts. Um. It was fun. We were in 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: a room it's like an all glass room, really nice 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: lounge area, and the museums open, so people like walking by, 38 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and I think people kind of peered in thinking that 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: we were like Hall of Fame voters or whatever like, 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and then we were like, oh no, we're doing a 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: fantasy draft. It was in their response to kind of 42 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: like uh, and they just been moving so that was it. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: But it was a lot of fun. It was definitely 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So, uh, there you go. We 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: got plenty of talk about Mike tech Lars I mentioned, 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: we'll join us. Mike Florio will stop by, and I 47 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: know it's like Mike, Mike and Mike. That's another network 48 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: though huh uh it's not anymore. I don't think. Okay, 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: But anyway, Mike and Michael stop by. Uh, they will talk. 50 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: We will also talk about things that are pumpkin spiced 51 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: because well, I don't know, just because. Um so, there 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: you go. We are currently in stage five, which you 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: may know if you have seen us do our fantasy 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: live shows on the internet in the preseason. So we're 55 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: not in our normal studio. Uh. Senior Edward L. Murphy 56 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: Esquire is still in points unknown. I think New York 57 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: never heard of it anyway. Um So Steve Manny once 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: again is on the boards. He can't talk to us, 59 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: but waves Steve there, he's waving. You can't see him 60 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: because it's a podcast, but just trust me, he's waving. 61 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: That works. That's how that works. Man. It's uh, it 62 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: is not a visual medium. So now that I've rambled 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: for a whole long time. Let's do some news, all right. 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: So this happened as we were just getting ready to 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: begin our draft at the King's Classic, which actually the 66 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: second year in a row that Josh Gordon has been 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: reinstated right before that draft has become a tradition unlike 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: any other Graham. I know, you said last week that 69 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: if if Josh Gordon came back, that you're back in 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: on him. So I say, I've been. I've been back in, 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I never left. So so okay, you're back in. So 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: where are you back? Like? What what round? What area 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: are you looking to draft? That's that's the crux. And 74 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: I haven't done any drafts um worth, like actual any 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: jelly beans um since Gordon has been reinstated, so I 76 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: haven't had to fire any live bullets yet. But I 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: think right now is like six seventh round feels right 78 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: to me. I mean, he's probably gonna get suspended. He's 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: probably a minimum going to get a two games suspension, 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: and we're kind of waiting for the league to come 81 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: back on that. But people don't realize that, like, yes, 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: it was only seventy targets he saw last year, but 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: he posted a career high in yards per target, posted 84 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: a career high catch rate. His passer rating when targeted 85 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: was the highest of his career, better than his two 86 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen season with the Browns. Um Josh Goren is 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: not going to be pummeled with targets like he was 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: in two thousand thirteen. He does not have a hundred 89 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and seventy targets ceiling in this offense, but one tent 90 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: is very achievable with their just wide open pass catcher 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: corpse and Nikolharriy has started slow and kind of been 92 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: banged up, Julian Edeman has been out of camp. It's 93 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: it's it's still a really good spot for Gordon. I 94 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: have seen such a wide range and where he's coming 95 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: off the board. I've seen in one draft him come 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: off the board in the fifth round scene in another 97 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: draft that I did last night with some friends where 98 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: he didn't go into like the twelfth round. Let's let's 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: go through it. So sixth round, right is like Alan Robinson, 100 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley, Robbie Anderson, who who do you out of 101 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: that grouping like that feels right to me because Gordon 102 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: has that like receiver to ceiling. But obviously he's you know, 103 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: taking more time away from football. He's been out of 104 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Patriots camp. He's gonna get suspended. He's gonna get suspended potentially. 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: The other part of it is, and this was a 106 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: wrinkle that came up over the weekend, he could end 107 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: up on the n f I list, a non football 108 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: injury list. Uh. If that happens going into the season, 109 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: it works sort of like the PUP list, where that 110 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: means he's not available to you until after week six. Uh. 111 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: And so I guess to look at him in the 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round and have that hanging over your 113 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: head that you might have to hold onto him for 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: six or seven weeks. That to me makes me a 115 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: little nervous, which is why I guess I feel comfortable. 116 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: Twelve seems a little late, but maybe you know, eight 117 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: or nine just because of that risk. But I'm I'm 118 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: also kind of risk averse when it when it comes 119 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: to these sorts of things. But I do think it's 120 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: funny because you know, I would say it's it's like 121 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: a Pavlovian response for fantasy Twitter when Josh Warden's name 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: comes up, Well, it is for me absolutely, I'll say 123 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: it too. That's a good point about risk management, because 124 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: it's just depends on your team build. Right. It's like, 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: if Gordon as your receiver four in the six or 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: seventh round, that's fine because you're But if you started 127 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: running back heavy where you've got O. J. Howard in 128 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: the fifth round and he's your second receiver, that's that's 129 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: not necessarily a spot. I want to have uh news 130 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: out of Dallas. Uh. Jerry Jones, after watching Tony Poler 131 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: have another good week, came out and talking to reporters, 132 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: said Zeke who, um, Look, I mean, I know it 133 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 1: was sort of a joke, and I know that's Jerry's 134 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: sort of his way of negotiating. I also know Zeke 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: and his agent were not all that thrilled about hearing 136 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But I guess the upside, Graham 137 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: is that Zeke has left Cabo and he's back in 138 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: the Metroplex, So that means in theory, he's one step 139 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: closer to being back on the field for the Cowboys. 140 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he still hasn't dropped that far, right, 141 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: He's still hanging around on the top five right now. Yeah, 142 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: if I'm drafting today, I'm taking him as early as 143 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: third overall, I still remain staunch that a deal is 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: going to get done here and and this is just 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: like it's every year, you know, good Tony Pollard has 146 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: looked great. I don't want to take that away from him, 147 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: but it's every single year where rookie running back will 148 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: just beast against second and third string defenders and make 149 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys miss and everybody loses their mind. 150 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: And this just happens to be, you know, a situation 151 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: where Zeke has been out of camp. I'm still confident 152 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: that I think he's going to play week one. Melvin 153 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Gordon is a whole, another whole, another discussion. Now, yeah, 154 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: I still don't think Melvin Gordon is going to be there. 155 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I've believed this whole time that 156 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: that Zeke was going to be there and nothing has 157 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: changed my mind on that. But it does beg the question, 158 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: even with him coming back, would you still take a 159 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: chance on Tony Pollard at the very end of a draft. Absolutely, 160 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: I think Pollard he won't have standalone value because Zeke 161 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: is gonna play of snaps once again. But Pollard has 162 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: shown that he is now Foreshore their number two back 163 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: and Marcus. I mean, like handcuffs are. I mean, we 164 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: think we know what the handcuffs are most of the time, 165 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: but it usually ends up being the third or fourth guy. 166 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: I do feel comfortable saying Pollard is Zeke's true handcuff 167 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, if 168 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: there's it's funny. I feel like every year we've been, 169 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: because of circumstances, sort of looking for the handcuff, you know, 170 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: like before when we knew he was going to be 171 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: suspended at some point, everybody was trying to figure out 172 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: who was next in line. Now this year with the 173 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: holdout sort of thing, But I think I think Tony 174 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Pollard over Alfred Morris sort of feels like the play 175 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: right now quarterback news well, more like Andrew Luck news. 176 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: The Andrew Luck watch continues. And he warmed up before 177 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: a game, he was on the field, he was warming 178 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: up and bad things didn't happen. It looks like it's 179 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: it feels like one of those things where it has 180 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: been a little bit overblown. Um. I know we talked 181 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: about this on the show last week, where we just 182 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: kind of all stuck our noses up, like, oh, Andrew 183 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Luck is hurt. Just don't take him, don't draft him 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: in the eighth or ninth round, just wait and see 185 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: if where he falls. Um, I'm still taking Luck around 186 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: like QB six, QB seven. But again, like um, there's 187 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: just so many great quarterbacks. And we were just talking 188 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: to Stephen before the show, right, he said he had 189 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: a draft and he took Jared Goff over Luck. And 190 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: he said, he said, should I regret that? And I said, no, 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: honestly no. I mean, golf has been a fine QB one. 192 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: If you're you know, if you're a little more afraid 193 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: than of lux health and deny, and that's fine. Yeah. 194 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I know over the weekend talking to Mike tag Lea, 195 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: who will We'll talk to him a little bit. Uh 196 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: he He says he believes that Luck is going to 197 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: be there for week one. He doesn't see them all 198 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: that panic, but you know, we'll get his thoughts when 199 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: we talked to him, and just a little bit so 200 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of dive a little further into it. 201 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: The one thing the Colts say they do want to 202 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: name a starter at quarterback by the third preseason game. 203 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: This feels like one of those like college camp battles 204 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: were like the head coaches like, Yeah, we're gonna name 205 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: a starter, and everybody's like, what are you doing? We 206 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: know who it's going to be. So like, short of 207 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you know, getting his leg amputated, I'm pretty 208 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: sure he's going to be their Week one starter. Last 209 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: bit of quarterback news, Matt Naggy says Mitch Rubinski is 210 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: quote way past where he was ineen in terms of 211 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: reading defenses. Graham, I know you and I saw the 212 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: same video of him last week, a super cut of 213 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky trying to throw left, and it wasn't pretty. 214 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: He can't left. It was not pretty. He's like Zoolander, right, 215 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: I feel like the people are sort of all over 217 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: the board with Mitch Trubisky. I don't know how you're 218 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: feeling about him right now. I'm buying Trubisky just for 219 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the environment, right Like I'm a believer in Mattnege. I'm 220 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: a believer in all their talent um, and I'm a 221 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: believer that they're gonna be hyper competitive in a lot 222 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: of games. But Trubisky's accuracy really concerns me, and I 223 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: think he's gonna have some huge, huge spiked weeks, especially 224 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: when he scrambles and kind of does some of the 225 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: great things outside of structure that he can do. But 226 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he you've got to understand that he is going to 227 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: be a pretty high variance quarterback. And for that reason, 228 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: I think he's you know, he's going off the board 229 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: behind guys like Philip Rivers and maybe even Jimmy Garoppolo, 230 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: just because I think drafters understand that he's going to 231 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: have the spiked weeks, but he's also gonna have some 232 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: pretty pretty low downs. I mean, he's almost me almost 233 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: exclusively a streaming type quarterback, Like I don't know that 234 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: I could in a ten or twelve team. Believe, there's 235 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: really no reason. There's just so many other guys that 236 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: you can have late, like Dak Scott's going to go 237 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: in the thirteen fourteenth round if you're draft, and I'm 238 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: just rather do that. Yeah. No, It's funny because I 239 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: think I feel like every year there's so much Mitch 240 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: Trubisky hype and he's fine. He's a great he's a 241 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: great QB two and super flex. He's a great if 242 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: you get a stud quarterback in super not even a 243 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: start quarterback. But just a consistent guy like Philip Rivers. 244 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Then you pair him with Mr Truphisky where he can 245 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: have those big spiked weeks when you can bounce him 246 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: out with someone who gets more consistent points. He's a 247 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: great super FLEXI pay for sure. There you go. So 248 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: of course we'll keep an eye on that as well, 249 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: and all the peripherals around the Chicago Bears offense because 250 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: Trubisky certainly affects those guys as well. So yeah, that's 251 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: pretty much everything you need to know the news joining 252 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: us on the phone right now. Friend of the program 253 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: and one of the really smart and good people in 254 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: this fantasy football industry. You can read him over at 255 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. You can hear him on the Fans to 256 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: See Pros podcast. You can find him on Twitter at 257 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tagli or nfl It's Mike Tagle Arris hads man. 258 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. How you doing, man, that's 259 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: good man, long time goes. Yeah, I know, I think 260 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I recall sitting next to on a couch for like 261 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, like eight hours, yes, two days ago. Yeah, exactly. 262 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: You and I were both uh for those who don't know, 263 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: we were both in Canton, Ohio at the Hall of 264 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Fame for the second edition of the King's classic drafts, 265 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: The Auction and the Snake, and um, you know it, 266 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: it was a long, fun day that we had there 267 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: at the Hall of Fame. And you know, now that 268 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: you've come out of it and you've had a couple 269 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: of days to sort of to look over it, how 270 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: are you feeling about your drafts there? I'm feeling good, um, 271 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: and I feel better about my Auction Lea team, my 272 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: my Snake draft team. And the reason I say that 273 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: is because, you know, doing in the fourteen team league, 274 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you have to assume there's gonna be less chance to 275 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: lend studs on your team. You know that the positions 276 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: dry up so fast. And I was really a set 277 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: about my bench while there and thinking like, man, my 278 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: bench could have been better. But I mean, in reality, 279 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: it's really tough to walk away feeling good about a 280 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: fourteen team lineup, and you know what, having multiple flex spots, 281 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: so having a week bench, I mean, I have to 282 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: hit waivers and hope, you know, hopefully I don't suffer 283 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: any injuries. But I think in a fourteen team league 284 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: you kind of have that no matter what. So, I've 285 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: got my first of two main auction drafts. UM one 286 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: is coming this week and then the next following weekend, 287 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of looking for, like listening both of 288 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: your opinions. I haven't done an auction draft this year. 289 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: Like what what did what did you guys notice in 290 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: your league? I know it's a fourteen team league, that's 291 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: a big league that that typically people don't play them, 292 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: But what did you notice? I mean, Mike, you can 293 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. The thing I noticed is 294 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: just how much value people placed on running backs. Um 295 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: you know, I know it. I know. It kind of 296 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: sort of became the running joke at the end of 297 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: it that, you know, I I throughout c J auction 298 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: c C J. Anderson for a dollar and it immediately 299 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: jumped up to three and went to four dollars, and 300 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: that's sort of where we are. But I think because 301 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: there is such a big drop off, Mike, it just 302 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: feels like that that there is a premium placed on 303 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: trying to go out and maybe spending a little extra 304 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: to get yourself a quality running back this year. Absolutely, 305 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: It's just I mean, it does depend on on the 306 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: size of the league as well. I mean, it's gonna 307 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: twelve team, you don't have to panic as much. But 308 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: in the four teen team, I felt like, you know, 309 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: it's like I wanted. I wanted a few players in 310 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: my lamp, but I felt steady every single week, and 311 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, to spend up for guys like Alvin Tamarinodell Beckham, 312 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: I was willing to do that, but it's so odd 313 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: to see. And it's like understanding the crowd that you're 314 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna be in because you know you could be a 315 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: part of a group that the value is the running 316 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: back position, and maybe a lot of people feel like 317 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna goose you're running back. It's feeling the room. 318 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people go into an 319 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: auction thinking I'm gonna nominate players I don't want and 320 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: let people spend their money. But at the same time, 321 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: you don't want to be left with all your money 322 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: at the end and like sitting there and thinking where 323 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: do all the stuffs go? You know, like all of 324 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, I have all this money, but there's no 325 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: players to fit on. So sometimes it's the best things 326 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: You've been a player up front, and like while people 327 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: are are a little bit tentative to spend their money. 328 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I think Dalvin Cook was. I think he may have 329 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: been the first player nominated in our auction, and he 330 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: went for He was even it was two dollars below 331 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: value on my cheek sheet. But I'm not really big 332 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: on Dalvin Cook, so I didn't feel like I didn't 333 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: want to go and up the value of him. But 334 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: he turned to be one of the better values of 335 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: the draft because you know, someone did it before everybody 336 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: started spending their money, because I think everybody is sitting 337 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: back for the first moments and trying to gauge the room. Yeah, 338 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: I think exactly what happened. I think he went for 339 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: thirty four dollars. Uh, And it really really wasn't all 340 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: that far off from some of like the big time 341 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Studds or something that some of the other guys kind 342 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: of in that that range. Uh. He ended up being 343 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: a great value. Um, outside of the draft. You and 344 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: I talked, you know, as we were sitting on the 345 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: couch all afternoon, and one of the things you mentioned, Um, 346 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, who I know we've all sort of been 347 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of keeping an eye on. You feel like he's 348 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: going to be there week one despite all the panic. Um, 349 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, please tell me that, you know, stabilize my 350 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: feelings because I've been big on him all offseason and 351 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: I've sort of been wavering. But but make me feel 352 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: better about the fact that that he will be there 353 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: and be productive this year. Yeah, I mean, we're talking 354 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: about a calf injury. It has nothing to do with 355 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: his throwing shoulder, and nothing to do with the upper body, 356 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: which makes me like panic. Last you know, Andrew Luck 357 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: when he came back from his shoulder injury, he wasn't 358 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: running the ball as much as he used her. And 359 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: that's fine. You know, he has weapons in the passing game, 360 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: they have a great offensive line, they protect him in 361 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the pocket now, but Andrew Luck the reason it's like, 362 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: it's a calf injury, guys, and you know we've seen 363 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: running backs. You know. When a lot of doctors have 364 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: talked about the picture that was released about Luck and 365 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: it looks like an angle spring. He's got it taped up, 366 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: and they're like, that's not even that doesn't even look 367 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: like a high angle spring where they have it taped 368 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: even if it were a high ankle sprain. Let's say 369 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: it was. Maybe he was overcompensating on that, like for 370 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, because of the calf and he suffered an 371 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: ankle sprain. That's fine. We've seen running backs come back 372 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: from high ankle springs into to three weeks at time. 373 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Soly Andrew Luck's gonna dropping back to pass behind that 374 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: offensive line. I think the Colts were in their lesson. 375 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: I I don't think they're promising anything with Andrew Luck 376 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: because if your call, you know, just a couple of 377 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: years ago, they're telling people Andrew Luck is gonna be ready, 378 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna play, and if they shut him down for 379 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: the year, it's like, angl Luck is ready. I'm not 380 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: panicking about him because it is an ankle injury. I'm 381 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: he could want if he was, you know, like we 382 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: look at like guys like Philip Rivers, he might as 383 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: well not have any legs, you know. He stopped. He's 384 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: taking a three steps five steps drops or whatever doing 385 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: and he's like scanning the field. Andrew Luck has become 386 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: more pocket pastor as he's you know, progressed in his 387 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: career and knowing that offensive line is as good as 388 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: they are. I'm not concerned about it. I'm with you 389 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: on this. Tags I think we can drop him safely 390 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: down our rankings, like maybe a few spots just based 391 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: on I don't. I don't want to be the guy 392 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: that's like overly optimistic about injuries in my league, for sure, 393 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: But I'm definitely with you, like I'm not going to 394 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: let him fall pass like the ninth or tenth round 395 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: in my league because he can play behind this offensive 396 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: line at eighty five on his you know, this is 397 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: a left leg injury too, so it's not like he's um, 398 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: you know, getting his power from his right leg on 399 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: his throwing side. I'm with you on that. I don't. 400 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm I'm letting him to fall fall 401 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: too far down the board. Yeah, I think I think 402 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: some of us in the industry leagues. You know, we 403 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: talked about like quarterback being values, but in like an 404 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: actual like you know, home leagues. You know, of the 405 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: leagues out there, a lot of guys they take career 406 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: backs earlier than I'm going to anyway, So Andrew luck 407 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: is usually never eaturned the board when m Yeah, I 408 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: was reading through your list of sleepers for this year. Um, 409 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I know that I know the term 410 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: term sleeper has become nebulous because we talked about so 411 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: many guys, but but you actually pinpointed some guys that 412 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: are really late round in a lot of cases not 413 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: even being drafted. And one name jumped out at me 414 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: when I read your list, is this finally the year 415 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: for DeVante Parker? Does it finally happen this year? I 416 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: think it's possible. You know, it's good to find a 417 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: guy that's being taken. He's essentially being undrafted. He's like 418 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: his the average a DT right now is two hundred overall, 419 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that he had. He comes with 420 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: a potential. You know. Adam case leaves the team, everybody 421 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: expects the Dolphins to move on from DeVante Parker. Like 422 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I think that I was aboard that. So I was like, okay, 423 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: I seem like the team is ready to move on. 424 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: They're not going to take the option. They The first 425 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: thing they did when Adam Gates left was they extended 426 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker. It kind of tells me it's like they 427 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: I think Gates held a crutch against Parker. It was 428 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: similar in a way to Jai and really they were 429 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: abed the trape Parker last season. But like before the 430 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: two Dolphin eight team season. This guy I had on Parker, 431 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: he can't played thirty six career games. In those games, 432 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: he is a wide receiver three or better fifty three 433 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: percent of the time. When you do like, people are like, well, 434 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: what is that compared to mine? Tyler Boyd in two 435 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Dolphin eighteen was a wide receiver three or better fifty 436 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: seven percent of the time. So why are we judging 437 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker based on Adam case The reason that I'm down, 438 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm down like I'm moving Robbie Anderson down my board. 439 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: The reason I larning on belldown my board because I 440 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: don't believe in Adam Caze. You know, I'm not saying 441 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: that Brian Fares even guy that I want to attach 442 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: myself too. But knowing that Ryan Fitzpatrick looks like he 443 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: has the leg up on the starting job, I want 444 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: to attach myself to that quarterback because Ryan Fitzpatrick, you 445 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: guys know, he's he's shut gass. He's basically Jake Color 446 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: asked quarterback where he's willing to throw it up in 447 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: one on one coverage? And DeVante Parker was jected as 448 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: a guy at six three, you know, over two d 449 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: and twenty pounds should be able to win those one 450 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: on one situation. So, I mean, it's hard for me 451 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: to say that they're gonna be able to run the 452 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: ball with Klein Balash. So I think a hundred and 453 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: twenty targets are in the realm of possibilities. I'm not 454 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: projecting that, but he is. He should be the top 455 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: target there. So and knowing his draft cost, it it's 456 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: like a risk reward thing. And Watchee and you don't 457 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: didn't spend anything to get him for drop. You know, 458 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: you actually mentioned in that explanation kind of a quick 459 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: little thing too. You mentioned Caitlin Blage. And this was 460 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: a guy that you know, a couple of months ago 461 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: when I started drafting, I was taking him at the 462 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: end of draft just kind of as a dart throw 463 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: or whatever. The hype has come so much that now 464 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: he's moved up that you know, he's gone from being 465 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: a fourteenth round pick to like a ninth round pick 466 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: in a lot of situations, and I think, Mike, we're 467 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: overlooking the fact that the Dolphins are still going to 468 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: be a bad team. That no matter how much we're 469 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: hyping Kitlin Blage, they're going to be a bad football team, 470 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think I just think we've 471 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: gone too far in the other direction for for Blage 472 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: and maybe we are overlooking what what DeVante Parker could be. 473 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. I mean, if anybody watched Kalen Blage 474 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: and Kenyan Drake play football last year, you could see 475 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: which one was a better running back and it's not 476 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: even close. You know, talent does win in the NFL 477 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: in vern Flores. You know, there might be more of 478 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: a story in Miami than I know, or maybe off 479 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: the field things. But what I do know is that 480 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: on the field, Kenny Rakes the superior running back and 481 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: if he wants to win football games and you drinks 482 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: can be playing more of the snaps. Kalen Blange is 483 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: a guy that you know when when you have a 484 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: player that could not start at the collegiate level, it's 485 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: a warning sign for me, you know, like Cale and Blage, 486 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: I watched this film and like, is he a size 487 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: speed specimen? Absolutely. I think some of the best attributes 488 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: were actually in the passing game, and knowing that Kenyan 489 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: Drake was one of the best receiving backs in football 490 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: last year, it just moves him down my board. But 491 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: unfortunately this just seems like an ugly time share. So 492 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: first off, you mentioned it, it's an ugly offensive, an 493 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: ugly offensive line. They have like one studying caliber re 494 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: bruensive lineman there, and it's it's an allowing the tunsil, 495 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: but he's over at left tackle. He's more of like 496 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: a pass protector than he has a run blocker. So 497 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you combine the fact that it's a 498 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: bad offensive line and at bad offense, and it's it's 499 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: an ugly time share between these two. I'm just avoiding 500 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: the bolt. I don't think that you're gonna say I 501 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: dropped the kleen blage and he brought me to a 502 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: fantasy championship. That's basically what you're looking for when you 503 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: get to that tenth round area. I would much rather 504 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: take someone like an Anthony Miller who has break out 505 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: potential written all over him, or even the Ronald Jones. 506 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: I don't want. Jones is considered a bust. But guys, 507 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Bruce Statrians coming in there is going to change things. 508 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: Understand that no running back like not just Ronald Jones, 509 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: no running back under dirt cutter and Tampa Bay finished 510 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: inside the top thirty in fantasy points per game. So again, 511 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: why are we basing our opinion on Ronald Jones based 512 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: on thirty career touches? Yeah, Marcus and I've been on 513 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: record on this podcast all summers saying we don't want 514 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Dolphins and never Dolphins, and it kind of seems like now, 515 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: especially with Kenyan Drake, now we he has this kind 516 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: of lingering foot issue that we're not entirely sure about. 517 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: It's it's it's very likely. I don't think many people 518 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: are going to have like we're not gonna be relying 519 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: on Dolphins in our fantasy lineups probably early in the season. Uh, 520 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: last little bit for you. We always appreciate the time 521 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: my um. You know, obviously we still got a couple 522 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: of weeks left of the preseason, and I know everybody 523 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: sort of watches these games differently. For you, when you 524 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: sit down and you watch preseason football, what specifically, what 525 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: what sort of things are you looking forward? Do you 526 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: suggest people keep an eye out more when they watch 527 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: these games? It's really who's getting snaps with the starters? Um, 528 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, like Patrick Mahomes is gonna probably playing, you know, 529 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe a quarter or quarner and a half, and it's 530 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: like you want to see if Darlan Thompson is gonna 531 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: get more time with the ones that they're showing out. 532 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: You know, Tony Pollard being on the field with Dak Prescott. 533 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: It I was hesitant believed to believe that he was 534 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: a direct handcuff to Ezekiel Elliott. But it seems like 535 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: Gary Jones and mat coaching staff believes in him. Um. 536 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: But you know, some of the things that people are 537 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: are missing here is like I got like Mitr Schipisky. 538 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: We've heard a lot of things out a camp about 539 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: how I was struggling and you know he's throwing interceptions 540 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: and you know, taking a page. I'm not saying he 541 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: Darreon Rogers, but Aaron Rodgers says, if you're not growing 542 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: picks and practice, you're not doing something right because basically 543 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: that's the time where you should be, you know, experimenting 544 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: what you can and cannot do. I believe Matt Naggie 545 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: is a smart coach and basically, if if Mr Pusk 546 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: was having that much issue, he would be out there 547 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: in the preseason more. He hasn't got a single past 548 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: in the preseason yet, and that that is more of 549 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: a war, so instead of taking a word from maybe 550 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: a beat reporter, it's it's like reading in between the 551 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: tea leaves and saying, if Matt Naggie was really uncomfortable 552 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: with risky, if he looks that bad, why why isn't 553 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: he playing drop the prettseason. So basically that's the stuff 554 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: I look for, and getting running backs on the fields 555 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: with the starters, because whether they're a running a young 556 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: running back, it's like, you know, under Mike McCarthy, pass 557 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: protection was obviously a big thing. I don't think some 558 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: coach value that too much, um, but if but if 559 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: they do, obviously want to see them out there with 560 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: the starters. So it's behind them. It's just a bunch 561 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: of guys fighting for depth. But getting on the field 562 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: of the starters is definitely a step in the right direction. 563 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: If throwing picks in practice means you're doing something right 564 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: that Jimmy garoppolos my new QB one. Hey, Mike, we 565 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: appreciate it as always for folks out there listening. You 566 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: can find him on Twitter at Mike tag Le or NFL. 567 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: You can find him at Fantasy Pros on the Fantasy 568 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: Pros podcast. Hey be Well, We'll be in touch and 569 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: the best of luck this season. Man. Thanks guys, a 570 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: good talking with you all right, take care. Thanks to 571 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: Mike tag Lei Air for his time. Always appreciate chatting 572 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: with tags. You can find him over at Fantasy pros. 573 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: Uh got check him out if you haven't already. So 574 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: we go from one to another, Mike. From Mike tag 575 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: Leer to Mike Florio are famous researcher. Welcome back man. 576 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: First of all, welcome back for another season. Thanks for 577 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: having me, Thanks for that. And uh, I definitely can't 578 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: follow up tags, So I don't know, man, like you know, 579 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: don't you're so short. You recently wrote for us on 580 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot com a kind of a roundup or a 581 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: preview of slot receivers. It was the thing you did 582 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: last year writing about slot receivers. They are all the rage, 583 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: They're the new hotness across fantasy and in fantasy football. 584 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: So you went and you broke down each team's leading 585 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: slot receiver from last year with an outlook about who 586 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: that person could be this year. So I want to 587 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: just kind of pick your brain about a few of 588 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: these things. The first one, because everybody loves the Arizona 589 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense. UM, they may go for wide receivers a 590 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: lot this year, which potentially means to slot guys if 591 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: we're really looking at it. Last year was Larry Fitzgerald. 592 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Is there somebody you see being maybe a consistent slot 593 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: receiver in Arizona this year? I still think it's Larry 594 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald as the top slot receiver, but we've seen Christian 595 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: Kirk also operate out of the slot a lot this preseason, 596 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: and last year Fitzgerald ran twenty four point five slot 597 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: routes per game to just seven out wide UH and 598 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Kirk only ran about eight per game. So I do 599 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: think Kirk can improve on that number, but I don't 600 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: think at you know, his escalated age there all of 601 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: a sudden I gonna ask Larry Fitzgerald to change who 602 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: he is. But I think there is enough volume for 603 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: both because that's going to be an offense that we 604 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: expect at least to run a lot of plays per game, 605 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: definitely a lot more than they did last year. So 606 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: I think there is room for both Kirk and Fitzgerald 607 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: to operate in the slot this year. UH. Over Chicago, UM, 608 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: Anthony Miller wasn't great. I mean there's a lot of 609 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: expectations for him. Are we are we overlooking him? So 610 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: I feel like we're not talking about Anthony Miller a 611 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: lot right now. Yeah, I think we are not. That 612 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: he should be, you know, drafted as a wide receiver 613 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: that you want to get in your lineup every week. 614 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: But it's also easy to forget that last year he 615 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: was a rookie who was dealing with a shoulder injury 616 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: all year long. I think the report said like it 617 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: popped out of like five times throughout the season. So yeah, 618 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: that's that has to be painful. Plus Mims r Whisky 619 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: missed time last year. But even with all that, Anthony 620 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: Miller grew as a wide receiver, especially from the slot. 621 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: Last year. He finished the year averaging three point six 622 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: PPR points per catch, but from week ten on that 623 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: number jumped almost a full point to four point four 624 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: to showing you just how much he was developing in 625 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: his rookie season. And you would expect that another year 626 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: in this offense. It was a new offense both for 627 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: him and Mitch r Whisky last year. You would think 628 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: that as they both continue to get a little bit 629 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: more comfortable that there's better numbers to come this year. 630 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: I went back and look to last year, Mitchell Drubisky 631 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: is actually better at targeting his slot receivers. Like in 632 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: terms of his performances, his y p A spiked, quarterback 633 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: grading spiked. If we go back and look at some 634 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: of his tape at U n C, he heavily targeted 635 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: targeted Ryan Switzer, their primary slot receiver at U n C. 636 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: So Trabisky has been throughout his very short career as 637 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: a pastor, he's been one that likes to target the 638 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: slot receiver. And Anthony Miller is a fantastic pick in 639 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 1: the tenth eleventh round for those reasons. Unfortunately he's done 640 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: with that little bit of an injury. It's gonna keeping 641 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: a price suppressed so they can get a little bit more, 642 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: a little bit cheap cheap Millar shares. Yeah, there's values 643 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: to be had there. And Whiskey last year just under 644 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: ten passes per game to the slot, So there's gonna 645 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: be volume going that way. So this one I'm gonna 646 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out to the room and you guys 647 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: can kind of both weigh in on this because I'm 648 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: very curious. Uh, the Rams are good about moving their 649 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: people around. Is there somebody on this roster, whether it's Cup, Woods, 650 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: Cooks that you see is maybe being a primary slot 651 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: receiver in that office. I don't know if we're gonna 652 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: see just one guy operate exclusively out of the slot, 653 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: because last year, in the eight games that all three played, 654 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: all three did see sometime in the slot. But Cooper 655 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: Cup was the the guy who saw the most time 656 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: out of the slot. Last year when the eight games 657 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: that all three played, he averaged just under seventeen slot 658 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: routes per game, whereas Woods was eleven point eight and 659 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: Cooks was ten point four. And I think it's worth 660 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: mentioning that in those eight games, Cup led them in 661 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: slot targets, receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns. So mcveigh's a genius. 662 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: I think he's going to move these guys around and 663 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: get the most out of all three of them, but 664 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup will be the one doing the 665 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: prime most of the damage out of the slot for 666 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: the ram. Cup is a guy that I've like come 667 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: like full circle on like three times this summer. Where 668 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: are you taking him? Because I've taken him as early 669 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: as like the twentieth receiver and I've forgotten him as 670 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: late as like thet Yeah, I like him as a 671 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: lower end w R two. And it's crazy to say 672 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: that I have all three Rams ranked as a wide 673 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: receiver two this year, but I do, and he is 674 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: the one I have the lowest just because uh, he's 675 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: going the cheapest, he's coming off the injury and such. 676 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: But I think because he's the cheapest of the three, 677 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: he is the chance to return the most value, and 678 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: I have been taking him though as a low end 679 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: w R two. I'm with you on that because I've 680 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: got Cooks at sixteen, Woods at seventeen, and then Cup 681 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: at receiver twenty one. But I've just I've had Cup 682 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: and so many different spots in my ranks because there's 683 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: so many good receivers in that range, and now that 684 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: I guess he's fully healthy, it's kind of getting becoming 685 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: a good value spot, especially in the One thing I 686 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: will say about the Rams is that, and it's pleasantly 687 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: surprised me, is that I think people have sort of 688 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: they haven't gone crazy. I really felt like this would 689 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: be a year that Robert Woods was overdrafted based on 690 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: what happened last year, and that people would forget about 691 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, but it seems like everybody sort of remembered 692 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: who Cooper Cup was. And I think it's sort of 693 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: kept all of their draft prices fairly reasonable because I 694 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: think I think everybody sort of feels that way that 695 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: they're they're sort of all wide receiver tues this year. 696 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: They're all, you know, the chance to be productive. But 697 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: I also feel like we haven't gone too far overboard 698 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: undrafting any one of those guys. I think Coox is 699 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: my favorite this year, though year two in this offense, 700 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Cooper Cups probably not going to be healthy. I think 701 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: Cooks could have a huge ceiling years. Cook actually stay 702 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: on the same team for two years in a row. 703 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: But it's kind of a thing. It's a gorgeous spot, 704 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: all right, Florio, Jarvis Landry and twenty nineteen, right, I 705 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: mean they they've added Odell Beckham. People are expecting, you know, 706 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: David and Joco to take a step forward. You know, 707 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb's gonna take a step forward. Are you looking 708 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: at this twenty nineteen being better, worse, or about the 709 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: same as what we saw from him last year? I 710 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: think it will be about the same, but I think 711 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: he'll go a different route to take it. I think 712 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry on the football field this year will be 713 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: better than he was last year. I think he will 714 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: be a more efficient receiver. I just worry with Odell 715 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: there O'Dell is going to see his fair share of targets. 716 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: We know. I worry about the volume decreasing for Landry, 717 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: but I don't think people realize he finished last year 718 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: uh w R eighteen in PPR League, so he was 719 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: a top twenty guy there. Plus I don't think people 720 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: factor in that he had a quarterback changement season and 721 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: then had a coaching changement season, so that's a lot 722 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to have to digest on the fly as well. Plus 723 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: last year he was used very differently, especially after Freddy 724 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: Kitchens took over. He was used a lot more out 725 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: wide than previous years, being used in the slot, and 726 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: the slot is where you want Jarvis Landry to live. 727 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: And because of that, I think he's his efficiency is 728 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: going to increase this year. Like last year, he had 729 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: more air yards than any year in his career as 730 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: far back as we could track, but his he had 731 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: the fewest receiving yards since his rookie season, So it 732 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: showed you that he was getting opportunity there, but it 733 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: wasn't really where he can make his bread and butter 734 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: like he can in the slot. So well, I think 735 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: his targets may dip a bit with O'Dell being there. 736 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: I think his efficiency is gonna increase. He had a 737 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: career low catch rate last year too. I think that's 738 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: going to spike him being more comfortable playing in the slot. 739 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: And Baker Mayfield through ten point seven passes per game 740 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: to slot to the slot last year, so I do 741 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: think there will still be volume there. I have Landry 742 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: and PPRS in top twenty receive a top twenty four 743 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and I don't think a lot of people 744 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking him there. I don't have him as 745 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: the top twenty four receiver, but I have kind of 746 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: moved Landry up in my ranks for that reason. The 747 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson trade is sneaky valuable too for Landring because 748 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: some of those underneath targets that we're gonna go to 749 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, even though there were just a few per game, 750 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna go back to Landry, which I think is 751 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: a huge boon for his value. And you mentioned they 752 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: were targeting him deeper downfield last year, that's true, and 753 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: maybe with Beckham in the lineup that he'll go back 754 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: to that kind of lower A dot. There's lower a 755 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: dot targets in the shorter part of the field where 756 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: he can just hoover, you know, like eighty to nine 757 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: receptions and that that's actually what I fully expect from him. 758 00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: And I I think we'll see a lot of Adel out 759 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: and I think we'll see Higgins and eventually Callaway maybe 760 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: on the other side, and Landry will get to operate 761 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: out of the slot, which is why we loved him 762 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: in Miami because it was those It's the right fit, 763 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: those low down, the short down the field passes, but 764 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: high you know, completion rate on those passes, so lots 765 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: of a All right'm gonna put you on the spot 766 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: right here. You gotta you gotta pick one of these 767 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: three guys. Right Where are you going, Danny amndola Um, 768 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: Golden Tate or Cole Beasley. I think I would go 769 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Golden take because I think when he is back from suspension, 770 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: he has the highest per game ceiling of any of 771 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: those guys. But with the suspension there, him and Cole 772 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: Beasley are pretty close. To me I don't really want 773 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: Danni Ammendola. I don't. I'm staying away from the from 774 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: all lines this year, but except for like the running 775 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: game and stuff. But yeah, I think, uh those two 776 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: are the close. But I think Tate on a per 777 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: week basis will be better if I swopped out Dania 778 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Avendola for like Nelson that I like, just there's I 779 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of question marks around him. 780 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Billies are gonna the Eagles are gonna use their receivers. 781 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: So so many receivers there. I mean, they've got Djax. 782 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: We were expecting Dawas god Or to see a few 783 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: more looks this year. There's just so many receivers and 784 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: then and they're catching there. Yeah, it should be fun. 785 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: You are are you writing slot receivers all year for 786 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: us this year? That that is the plan? Wait? Awesome? Yeah, 787 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: so check them out every week you find at NFL 788 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: dot com Mike Florial writing about slot receivers. Get in 789 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: get it on this. Um So to wrap up, I 790 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: would like to do something fun. So you're here, Hopefully 791 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: you can hang out and we'll talk because I saw 792 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: this the other day. Um it is we're approaching pumpkin 793 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: spice season. Anybody who knows me knows that it just 794 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: drives me insane because I think I think pumpkin and 795 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: sweet potatoes bland cousin um. But people seem belove it. 796 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: That's fine. So I saw that they are introducing pumpkin 797 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: spice spam for this year. I don't understand this. So 798 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: it made me come up with this idea of like, 799 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: of would you write like the pumpkin spice edition of 800 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: would you? So I went and they looked at all 801 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: these different products, food and otherwise that apparently we're going 802 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: to have pumpkin spice versions. And so I'm gonna run 803 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: through these and you guys can give me a hell yeah, 804 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: us a hell no, or maybe i'd give it a shot. Right, 805 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, let's just start the pumpkin spice spam. 806 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: How are we feeling about this? No? Hell no? Yeah, 807 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: Like I don't even need regular right, Like spam is 808 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: never on my grocery list. Like do people still put 809 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: spam on their gross? I mean in Hawaii, it's huge 810 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Okay, that's that's sorry, Hawaian's didn't mean to 811 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: disparage your spam. Look, I'm still I'm Destiny. They don't 812 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: need pumpkin spice spam on in Honolulu. That's just the thought. Um, 813 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice. Saw the pumpkin spice like body wash and soap? 814 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: Are you willing to go outside smelling like a pumpkin? Sea? 815 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: And now I have the purview of seeing your list, 816 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: this is the only one I think on your list 817 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: that I would say yes to you just because it's 818 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: an obvious one, right, I mean, you can maybe smelling 819 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: pumpkins if that's your thing. Now. For me, yes, I 820 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: don't particularly want to, but I wouldn't want to go 821 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: out outside of maybe like Halloween Day. I don't want 822 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: to ever walk around smelling like a pumpkin. I mean 823 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: I feel like, if your significant other is one who 824 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: appreciates the pumpkin spice latte like at Starbucks, and maybe 825 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: that's something that is my fiance's favorite drinks, maybe I'll 826 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: take Maybe maybe maybe you should try there you go, Um, 827 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: I saw a pumpkin spice protein powder for like, you know, 828 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: when you want to get games, but you also want 829 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: to remember that it's Thanksgiving to like, it just sounds gross, 830 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: like most protein powders are gross anyway, And like pumpkin 831 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: spice doesn't make it sound like it's anymore appictive. Yeah, 832 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: I'll stick to like chocolate or someone like cookies and 833 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 1: cream or sneaky good too. Sometimes I've heard that. Alright, alright, Um, 834 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: I like pasta. I don't know how I feel about 835 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: pumpkin spice feta chini. I'm out on it makes that 836 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: makes no sense. Had cinnamon flavored pasta once and it 837 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: was pretty awful. That's that sauce, and yeah, so I 838 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: will stay away from So was it cinnamon powder? Was 839 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: it like it was? We didn't know. And then we 840 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: made pasta and it was cinnamon flavored and it tasted gross, 841 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: especially if you pret sauce stuff that sounds bert. I 842 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: was at someone's house and I should pretend I liked it. 843 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: But that's pretty terrible. Never heard that last one. I 844 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: guess pump the spice pringles are going to be a 845 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: thing this year. I don't know. Man, people are into 846 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: weird flavored chips, so I think I could see this. 847 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: But for me, personally, I don't want it. Because I'm 848 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: with you, like the pumpkin spice fat is just it's hard. 849 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: It's bizarre to me. It's I feel like it doesn't 850 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: taste particularly good either. I mean my argument people don't 851 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: actually like pumpkin. They like nutmeg and cinnamon. Like that's 852 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: what it is, right, That's what it is. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. 853 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: The pringles sound definitely like something where I would buy it, 854 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: eat one and then never eat the rest that I 855 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: just have to try it. I would try one and 856 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: then that would kind of be it. There you go. 857 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys sitting and hanging in with us. 858 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: Appreciate Floorial stopping by. Thanks to Mike teg Lear for 859 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: stopping by as well. Before get out of here, a 860 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: reminder our live show is coming week from today, actually Monday, 861 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: August twenty six, for those of you in southern California. 862 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: We will be at the yard House in Marina del Rey, 863 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,879 Speaker 1: eight o'clock in the evening. There we'll do a pod, 864 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: we'll do some Q and A. Afterwards, we'll have some 865 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: spots open for our listener league, and we'll make you 866 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: do stupid human tricks to try to get in the league. 867 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Uh, if you buy some beer, maybe 868 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 1: you just you know, slide in a little bit easier. 869 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: Who knows. Anyway, that's it. We are done. We appreciate 870 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: you listening and downloading. As always, you know the drill, 871 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: tell too, friends, to tell to friends. Great review and 872 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: remember mosquitoes are like family. They're annoying, but they carry 873 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:37,399 Speaker 1: your blood. Soa onnesad. Wow, warm, warm, I'm telling I'm 874 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: to coping.