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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Daddy Needs his titos. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another edition of Around the NFL. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis. I come to you from a virtual room

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Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Greg Rosenthal and the man who

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Speaker 1: truly deserves the titos on this special really milestone in

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Speaker 1: his life, Mark Sessler. What's up, heroes? Marcus turned fifty

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Speaker 1: years old today? Wow?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was kind of monitoring self, monitoring

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Speaker 2: self scouting.

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Speaker 1: Do I feel different? I don't feel that different. Feel good?

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Speaker 1: No titos yet. It's very early in the morning and

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Speaker 1: coming up later. Sessler looks back what I've learned in

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Speaker 1: my half century on Earth. I'm really excited about that.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a full week here. You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you didn't expect that you would be spending

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Speaker 3: your fiftieth birthday on a bird with Dan and I.

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Speaker 3: And then we'll have, you know, we'll get to celebrate

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Speaker 3: with Sky. I'm sure Neil Reynolds won't say anything awkward

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Speaker 3: about it during the week on television and then show

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Speaker 3: this is It, and then at dinner like it's all

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Speaker 3: us it's never ending.

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Speaker 2: Mark, you I you know it's because these London trips

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Speaker 2: have come up, you know, in a similar time, multiple

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Speaker 2: in multiple years. I think it's maybe the fourth birthday

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Speaker 2: that I've celebrated en Route two or in England, so

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Speaker 2: you know, and I don't really celebrate most of my

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Speaker 2: birthdays that heavily or closely with anyone. So it's most

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Speaker 2: of my most of my passage of time has been

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Speaker 2: with the two of you, and uh, I could wish

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Speaker 2: for nothing more.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're happy to be with you. And if you're

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Speaker 1: just tuning in coming up a little later Market fifty

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Speaker 1: a retrospective now right, the back end of the show

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Speaker 1: is just gonna be loaded with memories of Mark Sessler.

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Speaker 1: Yes it is. It's a lot of us. It's always

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Speaker 1: a lot of us together this time of year. But

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Speaker 1: you know, it's nice that we're gonna be together for

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Speaker 1: your birthday and we'll definitely carve out some time Sestag

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Speaker 1: when we're in England this week and then through the

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Speaker 1: weekend for the close of the London Games Ravens Titans.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one.

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Speaker 3: It's one of those birthdays that I remember when we

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Speaker 3: were doing the show like six seven years ago, and

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Speaker 3: we would always joke about how you and Wes were

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Speaker 3: the old guys, you know, because there's about about a

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Speaker 3: five year difference between like the two of you and

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Speaker 1: Roughly we're all a little apart. So I do.

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Speaker 3: Remember thinking, like, by the way seven, I'm only one

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Speaker 3: ahead of you. I do remember thinking like back in

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Speaker 3: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen and thinking like, wow, this show

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Speaker 3: is going great. I hope it always is continuing, like

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Speaker 3: it'll be crazy someday when and you know, Mark celebrates

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Speaker 3: his fiftieth birthday on the pod and now here we

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Speaker 3: are and you look better the day has arrived.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally surreal, I you know, And I like,

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Speaker 2: we miss West for manifold reasons every minute. And it's

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Speaker 2: funny because, like I was looking at some photos that Nick,

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Speaker 2: and let's it just brought back so many memories.

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Speaker 1: And there's one of him.

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Speaker 2: Like as a youth baseball player and it's like it's

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Speaker 2: head of hair. But like I do, one thing I

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Speaker 2: But you know, Wes would step in there and be like,

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is yeah. Wes would have turned fifty this

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Speaker 3: Little I think what in February. It would have been

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Speaker 1: So we'll we'll have to throw one back.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some previews we're a little were day

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Speaker 1: earlier than usual for a good reason. We're getting on

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Speaker 1: a bird tonight, as we said, and we're going to England.

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Speaker 1: So that's coming up. But first I thought a good

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Speaker 1: I always find it funny that what we do for

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Speaker 1: in carbon Star Wars reference Mark for your birthday, And

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Speaker 1: I know I believe Luke Skywalker was trapped in there.

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Speaker 1: Now it's I'm not gonna I think you know what

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Speaker 1: let's circle back, and this is what separates us. Greggie

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Speaker 3: Well, it's honestly hard to look past just the last

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Speaker 3: But like I went from thinking they're gonna be my

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Speaker 3: I feel like a total moron for both parts of that,

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Speaker 2: I do think like almost everyone slept on the nature,

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Speaker 1: They're a little bit tricky because a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: made the wrong choice. The Dolphins are the team. I

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Speaker 1: they I won't bring it up, Greg, but yes, they

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Speaker 1: you know, hide the women and children of Charlotte. But

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Speaker 1: I guess I want to see what happens when the

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Speaker 1: I'm excited just to see how they look when this

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Speaker 3: What's also because I replaced them with the Chargers, like

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Speaker 1: But I don't feel good about that.

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Speaker 3: I know they're two and two and Herbert's played well individually,

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Speaker 3: but I feel like this team hasn't changed. It isn't

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers don't miss the playoffs

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Speaker 2: That always felt a tad suspicious, although I thought it

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Speaker 1: as we celebrate the big day for Mark Sessler counting

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Speaker 1: down Mark's fifty craziest moments on his fiftieth right day.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I know, like this Gregg's child listens

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Speaker 1: Though. You think he got more wildness inside you in

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Speaker 1: Very good. All right, let's do some news. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the news. I still think Greg quietly

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Speaker 3: No, But I do enjoy that when I was removed

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Speaker 3: in Japan hearing about this, that I was not involved whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: All Right, We talked about it on the Monday Night Show.

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. There was some signs pointing to the superstar

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Speaker 1: get this guy in the field, and then they would

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Speaker 1: quit on them after eight weeks and send him out

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Speaker 1: of town. That that would show like a complete like

436
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Speaker 1: Jesus take the wheel situation there. They would also get

437
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Speaker 1: out of that point.

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Speaker 3: They would also get out of that guaranteed money, and

439
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Speaker 3: they would get a orderback that they think is probably

440
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Speaker 3: as good or maybe their head coach thinks is as

441
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Speaker 3: good a fit in their offense, are better than the

442
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Speaker 3: guy that they have. I think that contract is a

443
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Speaker 3: bit of an albatross, and there's concerns.

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Speaker 1: Wait, it would be soon, Greg, I know you don't

445
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Speaker 1: like talking about this player in any positive but you're

446
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Speaker 1: acting like it's already a he's a bust.

447
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Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it's I just think it's possible.

448
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Speaker 3: I think in two weeks it would be.

449
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Speaker 1: Pro football is completely different than the best.

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Speaker 2: Wait, why but why would the Vikings, and I think

451
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Speaker 2: their front office is pretty forward thinking and there's hope there.

452
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Speaker 2: Why why would the Vikings take on like the Watson

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Speaker 2: contract starting next year. I know you can read do

454
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Speaker 2: the money and stuff, but is insane and we haven't

455
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Speaker 2: seen evidence that he can play and a trade needs

456
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Speaker 2: to happen pretty soon. You know, there's a trade deadline

457
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Speaker 2: for this to happen. It's like, why on earth would

458
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Speaker 2: the Vikings take on Cleveland's ostensibly biggest problem.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Because there's a lot of people that think he's

460
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Speaker 1: a top flight quarterback just what he does on the field,

461
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Speaker 1: And that's why the Browns sold their soul to the

462
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Speaker 1: devil on it because they were looking for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: for thirty years. And that's why I don't think they

464
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Speaker 1: would get out at this point, because then they're right

465
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Speaker 1: back into that QB wilderness with a thirty five year

466
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Speaker 1: old Cousins on a rental deal where they guess they

467
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Speaker 1: start over, go ahead. It's it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: I'm just throwing out there, partly because there weren't logical

469
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Speaker 3: teams and the way I always start these are who

470
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Speaker 3: are these players with previously? And Cousins and Stefanski, you know,

471
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Speaker 3: had that time, and the forty nine ers don't really

472
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Speaker 3: make sense. But just from about the Valerie Cousins is

473
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Speaker 3: only making ten million dollars actually in terms of his

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Speaker 3: base salary, So you'd be like paying nothing to get

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Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins for eight games or whatever ten games.

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Speaker 4: How about the Falcons and a wide open Yes, that

477
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Speaker 4: was only like a logical team that I could think of.

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Speaker 4: That's about the only thing is like I feel like

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Speaker 4: Arthur Smith keeps getting in the way of these concepts

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Speaker 4: that we have because you know, we talked Ryan Tannehill

481
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Speaker 4: for six months and Arthur Smith all he does is

482
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Speaker 4: turn around and back Desmond Ritter against sometimes like our wishes,

483
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Speaker 4: and it's like, I don't there's not a big link

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Speaker 4: between Arthur Smith and Kirk Cousins at all.

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Speaker 1: But you think Tennessee you could talk itself into it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, probably not if they were they were

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Speaker 2: like stay competitive and they're hanging around and Ritter has

488
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Speaker 2: another like really bad game or two, like maybe ownership

489
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Speaker 2: would get on board with that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you give them hope.

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Speaker 3: The only trick is Arthur Smith is like the system.

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Speaker 3: Everything is about the system. Yes, we can draft these

493
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Speaker 3: top ten wide receivers and tight ends. But my system,

494
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Speaker 3: you know, dictates they only get the ball twice a game.

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Speaker 3: And his system is like, I want a running quarterback

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Speaker 3: to run this system, to uh, someone with mobility, and

497
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Speaker 3: so I do wonder about the fit with with Cousins.

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Speaker 1: All right, interesting, very interesting intrigue in Minnesota in a

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Speaker 1: transition period for the team. Let's move on to other

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Speaker 1: injury news. Unfortunate news here that the Dolphins will be

501
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Speaker 1: without Devon Yeah, his name just gives me trouble. The

502
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Speaker 1: first and the last name. You got, Devon Chan, not

503
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Speaker 1: Devin Chan. Devon Chan. He is headed toward injured reserve,

504
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Speaker 1: it appears, and he is likely to miss accorded tod

505
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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter multiple weeks with a knee injury. Mike McDaniel,

506
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: we played it on the Monday Night Show, is cryptic

507
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Speaker 1: about what exactly was going on with the knee, and

508
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: we still don't have a clear picture as of recording

509
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Speaker 1: today what exactly is up with the knee unless I

510
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Speaker 1: miss something. But he steps out of the picture after

511
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Speaker 1: an electrifying last few weeks, and Raheem Moster moves back

512
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Speaker 1: to the front of the line in that incredible offense.

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Speaker 3: Everyone always goes right to well, see he's one hundred

514
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Speaker 3: and eighty three pounds. That's why he fell to the

515
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Speaker 3: third round. Okay, let's see. I mean, it's true, it

516
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Speaker 3: didn't take long and they weren't going to over load him,

517
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Speaker 3: so that that's a concern. I don't think he's gonna

518
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Speaker 3: go on injured reserve Dan. It sounded from a rap

519
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Speaker 3: sheet that it would be like week to week, and

520
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Speaker 3: you that might end up happening anyways, but for now

521
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Speaker 3: it sounded like they were hoping maybe it would be

522
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Speaker 3: closer to two to three weeks versus more.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 2: My concern is because I like Raheem Moster a lot,

525
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Speaker 2: and they've essentially, you know, adopted with Jeff Wilson, they've

526
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Speaker 2: adopted the Niners backfield from years of old. But it

527
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: was like most was another player that you'd get two

528
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Speaker 2: great weeks out.

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Speaker 1: Of him, then he'd get injured. Like he's.

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Speaker 2: His durability has been a big problem and it's been

531
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Speaker 2: such a huge plus for their offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, h chan his season.

533
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Speaker 2: We just did that NFL plus thing yesterday where you know,

534
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 2: we didn't know what was gonna happen with him, but

535
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Speaker 2: now he's out of the picture. But twelve point one

536
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Speaker 2: yards per care there isn't really a comp for what

537
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Speaker 2: he's accomplished over the first five weeks of the season

538
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Speaker 2: because he really didn't. He didn't play in week one

539
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Speaker 2: and had five yards in week two and then utterly exploded.

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Speaker 2: And he has like fifty something sixty less carries than

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey and yet has the second most yards in

542
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Speaker 2: the in the league. So it's a huge loss, and

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, you hope he's back sooner than later.

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Speaker 1: Finally, in the news, the rams Man score another one

545
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Speaker 1: for the culture because it was decided that Van Jefferson

546
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Speaker 1: did not fit into their plans. Pukaakua has risen up,

547
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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is back to to Atwell's doing some things

548
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Speaker 1: in this offense. So Los Angeles makes a move and they,

549
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Speaker 1: I mean, they do Van Jefferson dirty. They must have really,

550
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Speaker 1: he must have really done something behind the scenes to

551
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Speaker 1: get them met because they send him to Falcons for

552
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Speaker 1: a sixth and seventh round pick. Get line, buddy, if

553
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Speaker 1: you didn't like your role in the offense with the

554
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Speaker 1: Rams under Sean McVeigh enjoy the Arthur Smith system.

555
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Was it wasn't working though he wants he wants to play,

556
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Speaker 3: and he wasn't gonna play anymore in Los Angeles unless

557
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: they were injuries.

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Speaker 1: So like, can you send me to the CFL? Is

559
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: there another option here in Atlanta?

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Speaker 3: You know, he's the number two or three receiver behind

561
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Speaker 3: Drake London. Mac Collins is there too. At least I'll

562
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: get to play In theory. Van Jefferson was always a

563
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 3: little more of an in theory guy for the Rams.

564
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know he played a lot on the

565
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: on a Super Bowl winning team, but it just I

566
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 3: don't know, I never I never got into it.

567
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Speaker 2: I like the thing you're so right about the Falcons

568
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: where it's like Drake London, like it's he's sort of

569
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: stuck and hijacked in this offense. And same with Kyle Pitts.

570
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: But they have like for being this system where you

571
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: think they want to run the ball and do nothing else,

572
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: like Rivers had these games where he's throwing the ball

573
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: forty something times, like it keeps happening, and like, I

574
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: mean that doesn't mean that he's completing great passes downfield,

575
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: but like it's not as if Van Jefferson goes to

576
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Speaker 2: a complete and total wilderness because there's not much around him. Like,

577
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: what's the competition outside of Drake London?

578
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Speaker 1: Great food, great strip clubs? You know, well he could

579
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: those box He's he might be a good Christian man, Uh, Greg,

580
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: he might be upset that those type of established and

581
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: litter the landscape of a town. Look at that.

582
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Speaker 3: I suppose there's plenty in Los Angeles too, So I

583
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: don't know what my point is.

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00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, many a time I've driven by Seventh Veil here

585
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and it's just Greg by him smell

586
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: self smoking a cigarette. It's disturbing, all right. That makes

587
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: me think of by the way, in that old Tom

588
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Selleck vehicle, mister Baseball from I think ninety one or

589
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: ninety two, and he learns he's been traded and he

590
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: goes anywhere but Detroit and they actually got sent to Japan.

591
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Like do you think Van Jefferson would rather be sent

592
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Speaker 1: to Japan right now to live with like your wife's family, Greg.

593
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: M maybe you could hang out with our old our

594
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: old boss, James John Marvel's son James Marvel pitching over

595
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Speaker 3: in the Japanese League.

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Speaker 1: Oh good for him? Checking well too, Grady ra oh, beautiful, beautiful, Yes,

597
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: shout out to James Marvel, big right hander with plus stuff.

598
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: All right, before we take a break, a little teas

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Speaker 1: here on this special day. Coming up on the other

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Speaker 1: side of this break, fifty and fabulous Sessler, Shed's black

601
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Speaker 1: jacket and everything else.

602
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Speaker 2: I mean, if I do two of the things you're

603
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Speaker 2: telling me I'm gonna be doing on this show, it's

604
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: going to be a new territory.

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00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Now that's a tease, a strip tease. I'll be here

606
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Speaker 1: all week. We'll be right back, all right, welcome back, Mark.

607
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: That was quite the show. I agree it was the

608
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: right move to do it off camera, but really enjoyed it.

609
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Speaker 2: I have to say, yeah, I wanted to see if

610
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Speaker 2: you guys, if you guys approved, then I could bring

611
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: it to a larger audience, take my act, you know,

612
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: to a higher larger venue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that Manny Pachiao gym member ship or whatever you got,

614
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: it's paying off.

615
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: And we got the I don't belong to the gym.

616
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: We got the big live show at the sold out

617
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Speaker 1: shot theater coming up in a couple of days. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, that might be that might be the spot,

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Speaker 1: that might be the spot for us. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to the Island game previews before we say goodbye,

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Speaker 1: Starting with Thursday Night Football. It is a matchup of

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Speaker 1: a one in four team against a four and one team. However,

623
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Speaker 1: you know, based on what's going on with the Chiefs,

624
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Speaker 1: I can't sell it. The Denver Broncos are going to

625
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Arrowhead on a short week after melting down in the

626
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Speaker 1: second half against the Jets against a I imagine ticked

627
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Speaker 1: off Patrick Home, Mahomes and company who are still trying

628
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: to find their stride. Greg, you're good at this. Sell

629
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Speaker 1: this as a game that America in the world needs

630
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Speaker 1: to check out. Okay, well, number one, Patrick Mahomes is involved.

631
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Speaker 1: It's he's in it.

632
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: I guess I lean more towards Tony Romo than I

633
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: know Mark does. I always enjoy watching Mahomes number two. Hey,

634
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: last year, when who is Jerry who is their interim

635
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: head coach Jerry Rosberg or something?

636
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, something. Remember they almost beat the Chiefs.

637
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: How do you remember that in like week sixteen, Week

638
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: seventeen that you know, so it was like down to

639
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: the last second in that game. But more importantly, this

640
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 3: is not the same Chiefs defense, the Chiefs offense, and

641
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: so I am curious how this thing is evolving. Marcus Valdez,

642
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: Scantling and sky Moore are just not happening, like it

643
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 3: ain't happening. And so you saw Justin Ross get a

644
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: few more snaps, really more targets he barely played, and

645
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: Rashid Rice has been solid, and Justin Watson and Tony

646
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: maybe at his best game of season, Like, are those

647
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: the guys? They're gonna have to start figuring out who

648
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 3: their guys are because they thought mvs and more were

649
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Speaker 3: going to be their guys and they're not their guys.

650
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: And Kelsey is supposed to play in this game. He

651
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: did practice Tuesday, but his yards per target, his yard

652
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: per catch, Mahomes' is yards per attempt, and yards per game.

653
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: They're not just all down like they're all down a lot,

654
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 3: and I think they want to put it on this team.

655
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: That's one of the worst defenses that we've ever seen,

656
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: the worst defense through five weeks in DVOA history. So

657
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 3: if there are anything like the old Chiefs, this is

658
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: like that Bears game where they put a forty.

659
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: Captain captain degrees. But I mean, I Greg, you did

660
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 2: a you did your best there.

661
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: I am.

662
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a team where I think, like, on

663
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: a short a short week Thursday night, what can you

664
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: lean on? And like, I think the Chiefs can can

665
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: run the ball, and if the Denver run defense is

666
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: a dark void. Your best performance was the one hundred

667
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: and twenty two yards you give up to Washington, three

668
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to the Dolphins, one hundred and seventy

669
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: one to Chicago. The Jets got right with two hundred

670
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: and thirty four yards this past weekend, and you mentioned

671
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: the DVOA. It's funny because, like our friend Aaron Shatz

672
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: talked to the Athletic and he said that you're right,

673
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 2: it's the worst ever measured going back to like nineteen

674
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: eighty one, and that the gap between Denver's DVOA at

675
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: number thirty two and Chicago's at number thirty one is

676
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: the same gap as Chicago's at number thirty one and

677
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 2: the Titans at twenty.

678
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: They are historically putrid. And I just think, like, yeah,

679
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs.

680
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Have to work themselves a little bit out of their funk.

681
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: They just won two road games and they didn't do

682
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: it in massively impressive fashion. But I would be stunned

683
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: if there's any result of this game other than Denver,

684
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: who aren't that special on offense in any way either,

685
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: and we're handled a week ago, can do anything against

686
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 2: this Chiefs team. It's like it would be an Andy

687
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: Reid unusual Andy Reid meltdown to not go completely punch

688
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Denver out.

689
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: Well, Cadarius, excuse me, Travis Kelcey not being physically right

690
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: is obviously a major detriment to this offense. So if

691
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: he's kind of gutting through another game and instead of

692
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, picking up twenty five yards just galloping through

693
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: the second level of defenses, is he just doing those

694
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: nine yard you know, a little turnarounds and it's you know,

695
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: maybe a shovel pass near the goal line that makes

696
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: such a big difference. Because obviously, you know, I was

697
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: watching this morning the Giants Dolphins game. I was like,

698
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: one you just got to knock out, And you know,

699
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: we saw Tyreek Hill catch a wide receiver screen and

700
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: then run diagonal across the defensive line through the linebacker

701
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: corps and then into the opposite side of the field

702
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: for like a fifty yard gain. And it was the

703
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: first time I thought to myself, I wish Patrick Moms

704
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: had you know a dude like this again, because you

705
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't really talk about it last year because he was

706
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: he just kept motoring last year because Kelsey was so great.

707
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: They need the idea of this summer storyline, which I

708
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: don't think any of us like totally bought into to

709
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: our credit in this case, that Kadarius Tony was going

710
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: to be their number one. It's just not gonna happen.

711
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: But can he give them more? And we maybe got

712
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: a little bit this past week. Can he become a

713
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: guy in this off that's what they need and until

714
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: we get somebody else that steps up in this offense,

715
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: and maybe they'll be active at the trade deadline. I

716
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: think some of these games that we see as like

717
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: total blowouts and one side of affairs are going to

718
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: be surprisingly less exciting, less fireworks, less scoring. So maybe

719
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: the Broncos hang around. But I could also see as

720
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: I I think Pachenko could have a huge game here

721
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: because that Denver run defense is horrific. That could be

722
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: the storyline coming out of the Chiefs offense on Friday

723
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: morning that they ran for two hundred and fifty yards

724
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: in a blowout win.

725
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: Well, plus the Chiefs defense is just making life difficult

726
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: for other quarterbacks. Lagerious Need is really playing well. Trent

727
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: McDuffie might be a Pro bowler this year in his

728
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: second year, really one of the best slot corners in

729
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: the league. And I saw that quote from Mike Greenberg

730
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: the only time I ever see quotes from Mike Greenberg,

731
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: So this is a little unfair. Is like when he

732
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: says something stupid and then it's tweeted around. So I

733
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe he says other things, but he was saying, like,

734
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: this is the worst Russell Wilson we've ever seen. Is

735
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: because he hasn't watched them all year until that Jets game.

736
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 3: And he's not worse, he's a little better. This offense

737
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: is okay, he's better than he was a year ago,

738
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: but he'll be tested versus Spagnola, who now can really

739
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 3: do a lot of things in terms of the blitzes

740
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 3: that he sends because he has such a good back end.

741
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: It's a top ten defense, like Chiefs fans are getting

742
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: ahead of their skis. It's like tenth, ninth or tenth.

743
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: But it's a good defense, and that's that's enough.

744
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: That was a total lot of Ravio Magnefiico from Greenberg.

745
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: Gotta be careful with that stuff, and I know the

746
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: accountability is at a different level with those morning shows,

747
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: and you got a lot of time to fill. But

748
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: anybody that's even half watching the Broncos knows that Wilson

749
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: is far better and more productive. I mean, going into

750
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: week five like he I know it's deceiving a little

751
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: bit and he's not having a big year, but he

752
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: was like a top ten producer and a lot of

753
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: stat lines that was he couldn't complete anything. He couldn't

754
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: get anything going last year at this time. But whatever.

755
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm glad you called it out because that annoyed me too.

756
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: The second primetime game. We're hurting a little bit of here, guys,

757
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: because what could be more lopsided than Denver case. How

758
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: about Giants at Buffalo? My god, my god, And we

759
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: have a rematch of Super Bowl twenty five. But there

760
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: ain't no LT and there ain't no Otis Anderson and

761
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: Jef Hosteller ain't gonna hold on to that ball when

762
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 1: Bruce Smith smokes him in the end zone. Geez, this

763
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: this Mark, it's your turn explain to me how this

764
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: game is something that people will be wanting to watch

765
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: after halftime.

766
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: The only way that I really could is there is

767
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: some optimism that Daniel Jones will play. From his own words,

768
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: we'll see, although Daniel Jones hasn't really been a reason

769
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: for optimism. Uh, there is a chance, I mean, there

770
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: is a chance that you get Saquon back. It sounds

771
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: like Andrew Thomas according to Brian Dable, your left tackle

772
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: has a better shot than Saquon. But if you get

773
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: these people back in the lineup, and you get healthy,

774
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: and you catch a Bill's defense, you know, maybe on

775
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: a couple big plays, a Bill's defense that is missing

776
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: Matt Milano, missing Tredevia Swhite, missing Dai Kwon Jones.

777
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: That's a big thing.

778
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: The Jaguars were able to move the ball on Buffalo

779
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: for portions of that game. The Bills had nineteen missed

780
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: tackles against Jacksonville. I really like guys like Terrell Bernard

781
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 2: and aj Epanessa and at Oliver this season, so they're

782
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: getting they have depth. But I guess if you got

783
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: a weird Josh Allen game, which is outside of the

784
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 2: Jets performance that hasn't really been the case, and your

785
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: Giants team does one of these things where you show

786
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: up for a couple of quarters and maybe you get

787
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: into They had three turnovers against the Dolphins. I know

788
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: they still give up five hundred plus yards, but they

789
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: had the one hundred and two yard pick six and

790
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: two other turnovers. If all that stuff came together, maybe

791
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 2: the Giants keep it interesting. But we've watched the Giants

792
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: like forty two times on primetime and they've not fulfilled

793
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: that promise.

794
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: So I am suspicious.

795
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: It is four out of six weeks and this is

796
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 3: the last time I think, so congratulations.

797
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that the Giants got a pick six,

798
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: as Mark said, another interception when the Dolphins were going

799
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: in for a score, and a fumble recovery that set

800
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: them up with good field position and they still lost

801
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: thirty one sixteen. It's like, it's so telling. I think

802
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: the Daniel Jones situation is it's noteworthy. You know, he

803
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: had the neck injury and he's had neck issues before,

804
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: and if they choose to play him in this game,

805
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: I just, you know, I think what you might be

806
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: seeing here with Jones, and I don't think he's being

807
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: buried in criticism right now, but you know, he got

808
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: paid mostly because of a strong close to last season.

809
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: I know he was in general better than he had

810
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: been previously before Dable got arrived, even in the first

811
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 1: half of the year, but it was really that closing

812
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 1: month or so where he was starting to like really

813
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: shred d defenses, but also the in retrospect and even

814
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: in the moment it was like, the schedule's pretty soft

815
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: right now as he's doing this damage. He lit up

816
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: the Vikings twice, for instance, including in that playoff win

817
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: before reality hit against Philly. I just wonder if Jones

818
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: is not a bad quarterback or even a quote unquote problem,

819
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: but if he is in that rather a large middle

820
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: class where if you set him up really well, you're

821
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, but if you put him with a

822
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: bad corps, he's gonna not help you and sometimes look

823
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: even worse because he tries to force things. So like,

824
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: as you try to like diagnose what has happened with

825
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: the Giants surrounding this kind of quarterback with a very

826
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: bad corps around him, maybe it shouldn't be a surprising

827
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: because I'm trying. I'm still trying to wrap my head

828
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: around how they could nose dive the way they did

829
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: the way they do, and I think the quarterback not

830
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: being able to raise a team plays some part well.

831
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: I think we put too much faith into most coaches

832
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: and Deebo did a great but the offensive line miscommunications

833
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: are just so bad. They're just so bad. And that

834
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: isn't on Daniel Jones, and it's like it's high school

835
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 3: football stuff or you know, even before that, where just

836
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 3: guys are just coming free. Like let it's so often

837
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: in a Giants game where defensive end is just coming free.

838
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: But it's not even they're they're not even doing anything

839
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: crazy upfront where it's like, oh, they're sending seven guys.

840
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: It's like no, they're just rushing for and there's some

841
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: crazy miscommunication and he gets killed. So that's on coaching.

842
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 3: I hope Sakuon comes back. Waller looked okay last week.

843
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: That's a positive. And U for the Bills that we're

844
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 3: going DVO heavy, DVOA heavy today. They are the best

845
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: three and two team in the history of tv OA.

846
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: And I believe in like rebound effects for good teams,

847
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,479
Speaker 3: like when you're picking games, like if a good team

848
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: loses the week before in a way, they weren't happy

849
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: with like they usually show up ready to play, and

850
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: Von Miller maybe he plays a little more. He only

851
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: played twenty snaps week and didn't do much, but they

852
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: got Dorian Williams from Two Lane University stepping in for

853
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: Milano and he looked pretty good last week at lineback.

854
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: Did you just did you just throw out something that's

855
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: a record? Through Week five? There, I didn't say a record.

856
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: I'm fine saying it as a stack, but we're not

857
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: saying break the record. You can use it for context,

858
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: but it's like he has broken the record.

859
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: It's just the wording of records. What did you say?

860
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Maybe I messed it up. I'm

861
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: just saying, like, what's honestly the difference. It's not like

862
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: there's some museum where that's my point. Yeah, but I'm saying, like,

863
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: what's the difference between what you just did and people

864
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: bringing up the Dolphins.

865
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: When they're making like a huge deal of like the

866
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 3: moment that they reach it or whatever, like, Hey, you

867
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 3: just brough it's you literally the words broke the record.

868
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: That's it. Hey you just got the record? Did I

869
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: say that? Well, you know, I don't know if you

870
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: said record, Mark I don't know were you listening or close.

871
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in the words business.

872
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: You made quite a no rotation out of a five

873
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: game stretch for a team.

874
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you said they're the best. You said

875
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: they're the best three and two team ever.

876
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: In Yeah, in Dvoa they're the best you know, three

877
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: and two team. That's a that's providing context. I'm all

878
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: about stats providing context. Even the yards for the Dolphins

879
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: is a good thing to mention. I think you're misunderstanding

880
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: my point. It's not a record, that's it.

881
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: We're we're in the words business. Words matter. Thank you,

882
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: Thank you again, Greg for clearing things up for me. Okay,

883
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: mission accomplished, So I get it. I'm with you.

884
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: But one quick thing on Daniel Jones where it's like

885
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: I like, I'm with you, Like I think like last

886
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: year was was probably the aberration campaign and he stayed

887
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: healthy and so did a lot of other people. Like

888
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: when Tyrod Taylor came in this game, Like you know,

889
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: when Tyrod Taylor can move around and he's not he's

890
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: a solid backup, like he was getting killed. I mean

891
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, they allow eleven sacks on Monday Night

892
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 2: seven and Week five, the PFF hasn't ast the worst

893
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: not only the worst pass protecting unit, but the worst

894
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 2: run blocking. It's like, it's kind of hard to evaluate

895
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: what's happening in this offense. When I think Daniel Jones

896
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: at this point, it's like you kind of worry about

897
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: the fact that he's probably just seeing ghosts and like

898
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: concerned about his own safety. I mean, it's like these

899
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: Get Giants games, it's like the Monday night game, Like,

900
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: get Daniel Jones out of there, but then you have

901
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: to put another human in there. I'd be worried about

902
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: that person's safety too. This is a disaster, and I

903
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: don't know how you get your way out of this

904
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: because offensive line coaching matters. There's obviously a problem there,

905
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: and you don't have the people to make this thing work.

906
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: You know what else could be a disaster. A segment

907
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: we have coming up right after these previews here in

908
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: a very special day in the history of Mark Sessler

909
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: coming up in just a little bit. Sessler at fifty, Well,

910
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: you don't know, may surprise you. That's one that I'm

911
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: tuning in for.

912
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: I think, like the thing about the you know, the

913
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: trajectory of the next fifty years in the in the

914
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: other fifty things you didn't know about, Like I could

915
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: I think I could pack a punch here. You know,

916
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 2: there are some things I think I could do well,

917
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: and this would be one of them in terms of

918
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: divulging information that would surprise some people.

919
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: All Right, finally, okay, this one. This one feels competitive

920
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: and perhaps even fun. The Dallas Cowboys deeply humbled once

921
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: again by the San Francisco forty nine Ers, now three

922
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: and two, they head to Sofi Stadium for a matchup

923
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, who are coming off a bye week,

924
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: who are chemically dependent on creating drama within games and

925
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: making sure, no matter what the circumstances are, the game

926
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: will come down to the final minutes. So on one hand, Greg,

927
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: this feels like and I, you know, I like the

928
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: Chargers enough to think that they're not just some pushover

929
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: that the better team comes in and gets right against them.

930
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that. But if the Cowboys have

931
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: a little chip on their shoulder after being embarrassed, this

932
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: is not a great time to catch the Cowboys for me.

933
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 1: So I think that the Chargers are gonna have a

934
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: very angry Dallas team that is going to have a

935
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 1: lot to play for after being humbled the way they are.

936
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: What do you think?

937
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 3: I agree with that, and that's why I'll probably pick

938
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: the Cowboys to win. But I expect this to be

939
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: one of my favorite games of the week, one of

940
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,240
Speaker 3: my favorite matchups of the season so far, just because

941
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: it's like drama.

942
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: You just know they're gonna bring it. Justin.

943
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 3: Herbert will do some crazy stuff, Mike McCarthy will make

944
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: some crazy decisions so well, Brandon Staley, it'll go late,

945
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 3: Troy and Joe will be having fun. I just can't

946
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 3: imagine this game occurring without a crazy ending. What two

947
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: teams have been more reliably like drama merchants than these

948
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 3: two over the last five years.

949
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: So I'm into it. I'm with you.

950
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: It's a I think Dallas is gonna do things like

951
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: this all season where they're gonna disappoint maybe places you

952
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: didn't expect as you did. But then they're a bounce

953
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: back team. They got a lot of talent, and I

954
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: just think this this Chargers defense is an opportunity they

955
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: right now. They have allowed explosive passes on about sixteen

956
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 2: percent of opposing dropbacks, and we just talked about Denver.

957
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: Only the Denver Broncos and Pittsburgh Steelers have allowed those

958
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: plays at a higher rate.

959
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: So I think that fits well with like a bounce.

960
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: Maybe Brandon Staley went into the lab mark in the

961
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: bye week and Brandon Staley figured.

962
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: Sure, Maybe he went to Toronto and took a week off.

963
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know what he did. Like, I mean,

964
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 2: I feel like he's been in the lab for two

965
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: plus years with a lot with a lot of additions

966
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: last offseason too, and parts that fit his defense, and

967
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: we didn't see it. I mean, I think like one

968
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: thing that's kind of like to trade J. C. Jackson

969
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 2: away is sort of like, you know, a bit of

970
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: a tell that like you you get these guys, you're

971
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: you're spending this money and they're not working. It's like

972
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: this defense just is not a difference maker. But I

973
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: do have hope in like what Herbert's done so far

974
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: this season, I think you're gonna get the best version

975
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: of Herbert all year long. And so it's like, you know,

976
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: these charts we talk We talked to Daniel Jeremiah on

977
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Sunday night in the viewing room and we were just like,

978
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: that's a great game you got coming up. He's like, yeah,

979
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: it's be like every single game, Like the Chargers could

980
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: play your high school and it.

981
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Would still come down to the final drive.

982
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: So I just expect to, you know, be there in

983
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: the with about fifty seconds to go, someone knocking on

984
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: the door.

985
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: Good news for the Bolts. It appears they're gonna finally

986
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: get Austin Eckler back. He said last week that there

987
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: is a quote long time between now and Monday Night

988
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: football versus the Cowboys, so expecting to be back by then,

989
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: for sure. He's been out three weeks with an ankle injury,

990
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: and you know, he is such a huge addition for

991
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: that Chargers team, especially I've always found in the red

992
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: zone where he is just so gifted at and has

993
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: such a nose for the goal line. So there is

994
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: greg for the Chargers dreamers out there, of which you

995
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: are one of them. There is certainly, even post Mike

996
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: Williams injury, this world where Herbert continues to play at

997
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: an MVP level and then you bring in this dynamic

998
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: all purpose running back and they go up a level

999
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: on offense, and then they start to kind of really

1000
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: build something here and they become a truly frisky contender

1001
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: in the AFC. This is a nice way to announce yourself.

1002
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: Is that way against Dallas in primetime? It would be

1003
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: fun to see it. Let's see if they can do

1004
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: it right.

1005
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 3: I'm with all that, But they've had a pretty favorable

1006
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 3: schedule in terms of opposing defenses, and this is a

1007
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: step up in class.

1008
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: I thought their offensive line was going to be great

1009
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: this year.

1010
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: It's been good, but it kind of struggled in that

1011
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: Raiders game, which was conserving. Herbert also hurt his finger

1012
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: in that game and it was definitely the worst game

1013
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 3: of herbert season in terms of his accuracy and decision making.

1014
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was the finger or not.

1015
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to be able to

1016
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: take snaps from center. We never really heard, like I

1017
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 3: think he broke the you know, he broke the finger, right,

1018
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 3: but it was on the offhand, and so that.

1019
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: That could be a factor. And I just I do worry.

1020
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: Do they have the horses to go deep because Keenan

1021
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: Allen has been making plays down the field. But it's Allen,

1022
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: it's Josh Palmer, Quinton Johnson, you know, make a tough

1023
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 3: catch Quinton Johnson, Like I can kind of see why

1024
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 3: they're not giving him a ton of snaps. They're kind

1025
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: of giving their return guy some more snaps. Like I

1026
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: do worry whether he has enough against a good Cowboys defense,

1027
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: but maybe it's not as good of a Cowboys defense

1028
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 3: as we thought, certainly in the back end without tre

1029
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 3: vending well, I.

1030
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: Mean they I mean, you know that Arizona game, Like

1031
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: I get that it was a weird contest, but it

1032
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: was this first moment where it's like, wait a minute,

1033
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: what are you doing giving up two hundred and twenty

1034
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 2: two yards rushing? And then they got gashed against the Niners.

1035
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 2: They've given up four hundred plus and two of their

1036
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: last three games. So I think there's like this matters

1037
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: for them to come up and show up. And I

1038
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: it is this week where it's like you just kind

1039
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: of presume that Dallas will bounce back and win, but like,

1040
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: imagine the NFL landscape if they don't.

1041
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 1: If they go in. I don't assume that. I don't

1042
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: assume that.

1043
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I, like I said, I'm picking the Cowboys

1044
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 3: probably this game. They got a lot of questions.

1045
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I got, I got a great game. I have Dak

1046
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: thrown a huge interception late that allows the Chargers to

1047
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: steal one with another Herbert big throw as he really

1048
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: takes hold. In the MVP conversation, thirty five thirty one bolts.

1049
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: I like that. I will.

1050
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: I also think that in their home stadium, with probably

1051
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: about a seventy five percent Cowboys crowd, the Charger you're

1052
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: going to say, we don't care about that. You're going

1053
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 2: to get one of these great Herbert games that shuts

1054
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: up the remaining.

1055
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: Herbert doubters for a while.

1056
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: And I think they take it twenty eight to twenty

1057
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 2: four final seconds.

1058
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: I'm a spooked. I hope you guys are right. I'm

1059
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 3: going to take the Cowboys. You know, they did finally

1060
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: get their offensive line. Let's go thirty four to thirty three.

1061
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 3: This thing's just wild. They did finally get the offensive

1062
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: line back that they intended to have when they drafted

1063
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith with everyone helped healthy Biadis at you know,

1064
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 3: at center and Tyron Smith at left tech. It literally

1065
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 3: had never played together until last week. But you know,

1066
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: so that's a year plus four games until last week,

1067
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: and they weren't amazing against San Francisco.

1068
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: But maybe they'll get better.

1069
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: I think it's a big game for your boy McCarthy

1070
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: because he got rid of Kellen Moore and now he's

1071
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: going against Kellen Moore. And the old Texas Coast offense

1072
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: has limited Dak's interceptions relatively until last week. But even then,

1073
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: his interceptions have gone down, but every other offensive stat

1074
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 3: has gone down this year for Dallas yards yards per attempt.

1075
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 3: They can't get Brandon Cooks involved whatsoever. Now comes a

1076
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 3: Chargers defense that's pretty soft, and you should be able

1077
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: to take advantage of it.

1078
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Speaker 1: Let's let's show me something, you know, what's really jumped out.

1079
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: The Dax ceed lamp thing hasn't happened really this year, right,

1080
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: and Tony Pollard hasn't in general. Yeah, you're right. The

1081
00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: offense is not necessarily humming right now. And uh, you

1082
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: know yeah, Mike McCarthy's gonna have to face some criticism

1083
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: if they don't show up in this game. But I

1084
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: think they will. I think we're gonna get points. I

1085
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I think maybe for me. I gotta say it.

1086
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: For me, I've always I've been on the fence a

1087
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: little bit the last year or two on DAK. It's

1088
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: almost like Sunday night was a tipping point for me.

1089
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: I just I'm kind of out on Dak, so he's

1090
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: got to win. He's got to win me back get hot.

1091
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: I think it's totally fair.

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00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's I'm waiting for the string of games

1093
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: that announced him and the Cowboys as something different than

1094
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: I already thought they were.

1095
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 3: It's been a while since he had a special game,

1096
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Speaker 3: even as a Dak.

1097
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Speaker 1: The wild card game against the Bucks, he was awesome,

1098
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: but like in general, it's it's been, you know, since

1099
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: the god I mean, if you really want to dig

1100
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: in a little bit, which let's not because we got

1101
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: to catch a bird, but really since the leg injury,

1102
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: has Dak been top ten quarterback? I would say no,

1103
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 1: But let's take and then let's see what he does

1104
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: on Monday Night. Anything else?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we got we got those banger Mark segments, right,

1106
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: Oh we have?

1107
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Speaker 1: Oh yes, I got developing news here. By the way,

1108
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Speaker 1: I'm Palm Roja out of Los Angeles. Stussler at fifty

1109
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: New Docs cast doubt over podcasters actual age. Let's see

1110
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: the birth certificate, Sessler. We're we've gotten to this place.

1111
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: I mean, so am I actually pretending that I'm older

1112
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 2: than I am.

1113
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Is that right? But there's a you're actually like a

1114
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: sixty eight year old, leather faced old man that's been

1115
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: using a filter for years decade on the show. That

1116
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,959
Speaker 1: would be incredible if that were true. No, in fact,

1117
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: if there was doubt. I mean the Manny Pacquiao workouts,

1118
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: the Hector Macho Camacho workouts. You're looking great, buddy at fifty,

1119
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: and we're very lucky to have you with us. How

1120
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: about we have a couple of two tree drinks at

1121
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: the airport bar to celebrate this momentous day.

1122
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: That is in that's only in a few hours from now.

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Speaker 2: I genuinely am excited to go to London with you

1124
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: guys on this day. And well that is exactly what

1125
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: we'll do when we meet at lax which in outside

1126
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: of the airport bar is a disaster of a place,

1127
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: but we're gonna mine our way through that airport scenario.

1128
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Speaker 1: Well, why am I still talking? I don't. It's okay,

1129
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: this is your day, all right, and that's it for

1130
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Speaker 1: us here from America for a week. Well, next time

1131
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: you hear from us, yes, we will be overseas in London,

1132
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Speaker 1: so make sure you check in with all our content

1133
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Speaker 1: out there. Until then, Happy birthday, Mark and E the

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Speaker 1: car