WEBVTT - Game 2 Reactions: Spurs DOMINATE Wolves, Knicks SURVIVE 76ers, Lakers get Luka UPDATE | Nick Wright

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in We'll Driving the Great Episode four fifty five.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of What's Right with the Great is presented

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<v Speaker 1>to you by the great people at Boost Mobile. Another

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<v Speaker 1>excellent night in the NBA Playoffs since we last met

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<v Speaker 1>the The Lakers got just systematically beaten by the Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>Such an interesting box score because the Thunder one one

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<v Speaker 1>of the quarters by three points, one by four points,

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<v Speaker 1>one by five points, one by six points. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how a game where it felt like the Lakers were

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<v Speaker 1>actually surprisingly competitive ends up being an eighteen point loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Just lose every quarter by two or three baskets and

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<v Speaker 1>you lose the game by eighteen points. That happened. The

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<v Speaker 1>Calves continue to me to look pretty unimpressive this postseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was two nights ago, and then last night

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<v Speaker 1>the Spurs got an absolutely critical, gotta have it, must

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<v Speaker 1>win game, which we will get into momentarily, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks gotta got an important game to victory will potentially

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<v Speaker 1>at the cost of og A Nanobi, So we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into all of those things. Also, Draymond Green I I

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<v Speaker 1>think Draymond Green may have this week have had his

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<v Speaker 1>media jumping the shark moment, So we will discuss that first.

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<v Speaker 1>I will introduce Demanse and how's it going? Good to

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<v Speaker 1>see you? I got it? When is so if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just listening and you're not watching on YouTube, if you

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great reason, like subscribe, rate review. When

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<v Speaker 1>is the last time you had a shapeaved head?

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<v Speaker 2>This slow?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably the last time that I got a haircut, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I got a haircut in Houston. You remember,

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<v Speaker 3>you took me to the barbershop. I lined it up

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<v Speaker 3>after it had already grown. But before then. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I got buzz cuts a lot when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're talking about first time in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was probably like eleven or twelve years old

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, so you're talking about a like junior

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<v Speaker 1>high school. It was the last time you had a

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<v Speaker 1>shaved head? Yeah, I can barely remem. I don't let

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<v Speaker 1>me say this. I think this is the first time

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever had no hair on your head while having

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<v Speaker 1>hair on your face. I think the last time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's yeah, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>You had a shaved head. You weren't able to really

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<v Speaker 1>facial hair. The chat is saying a lot of wimby

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<v Speaker 1>comps all of a sudden in the chat when Wimby

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<v Speaker 1>showed up all of a sudden at the after with

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<v Speaker 1>the monks and shaving his head. I think you look great.

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<v Speaker 1>It was disorienting almost a bit. And I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>through your Is she six months today?

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<v Speaker 2>She's six months? No, she's six months of two days.

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<v Speaker 1>In two days? Oh right, November ninth is her birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>so that would of course it would be on her birthday,

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<v Speaker 1>so six months. And I'm sure it disoriented your six

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<v Speaker 1>months soon to be six month old daughter. All of that,

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<v Speaker 1>and real quick before we get to the sports, just

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seconds here, and this is a note for demands.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a note for Victor. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing we'll do on this podcast for months. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>listening who is in a relationship, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first mother where your significant other is a mother. Do

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<v Speaker 1>not fall into that trap of she ain't my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>that's don't do that and whatever. And if you're on

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<v Speaker 1>a budget, whatever, you know, again, take my advice on this,

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as it sounds. If you've got to cheap

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<v Speaker 1>out on one of the presents, this one year, cheap

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<v Speaker 1>out on the present for your own mother, take care

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<v Speaker 1>of take care of the present for your significant other

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<v Speaker 1>who it's her first Mother's Day. The infant can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it now added bonus points if you give a card

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<v Speaker 1>from the infant's perspective, like a card from you and

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<v Speaker 1>then also a card from the baby. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is I truly mean it. Also. Now this is

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for Demansay because Demanse is a great and thoughtful

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<v Speaker 1>gift giver. He also is first team All American at

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<v Speaker 1>spending nearly as much on the overnight shipping for the

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<v Speaker 1>present as he did on the present. Because it's last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom will not be here on Mother's Day. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>be traveling and she is going to be in La

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<v Speaker 1>seeing you guys here in a few days. So do

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<v Speaker 1>not waste one hundred and forty dollars overnighting a package.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep it with you and you can give it

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<v Speaker 1>to her. You could get it there, but she won't

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<v Speaker 1>be here. So if it's something you want to send,

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<v Speaker 1>send it regular. She's going to be out of town

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<v Speaker 1>until next week anyway, and if not, just handed to her. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>producers say, come for the take stay for the advice,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Straight to voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryson D. Chambeau is going to focus on you Tube

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<v Speaker 1>if Live folds, okay, whatever, rustabating between TV and the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, it would be stunning to me

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<v Speaker 1>if Russell Wilson's compelling on television. It would really I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying he can't be, but it would take a

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<v Speaker 1>real personality shift. Like his whole career, he has been

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<v Speaker 1>intentionally bland in Vanilla. Now maybe that's just like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's because I was the quarterback of a team. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I can out here, I can be out here

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<v Speaker 1>giving opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>But that would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be awesome if he turned out and he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I was just playing a character because

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<v Speaker 1>that's who I needed to be to be a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But that who he's the personality shown as a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>would not work on TV and Rick Flair hip whatever, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even talking about this. Shut up, Rick Flair,

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<v Speaker 1>honest to god, stopping like the Rick Flair's like, get

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<v Speaker 1>out there, Luka, donci shut up? All right? Like rate

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe review demons, Let's talk, Let's talk Spurs, Timberwolves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, after loosening a close one in game one. The

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<v Speaker 3>Spurs rided the ship with the Timberwolves. In game two, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of stopped him, and it just seemed like

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota didn't have it. Last night, you talked on Simmons

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<v Speaker 3>Pot about your about your Wolves future bit. How are

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<v Speaker 3>you feeling after that game last night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well listen if you didn't listen to simmons Pot.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of alluded to it on this podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't expect Bill to ask me to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story, but he did. And I don't often talk

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<v Speaker 1>about gambling amounts with you guys, but I played poker

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. You guys, see, you know what my risk

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<v Speaker 1>tolerance is. And the too long, didn't read version of

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<v Speaker 1>the story is Saturday morning, I was in Vegas. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Vegas like twenty four hours to see the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was gonna bet the fight the Kentucky Derby.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I saw that Timberwolves were two hundred to

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<v Speaker 1>one to win the championship, and I thought that was absurd.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Anthony Edwards could come back. Turns out I

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<v Speaker 1>was right. I thought the Timberwolves had a very good

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<v Speaker 1>shot against uh San Antonio. I think I was right there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was gonna make a bet just myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I texted someboddies. They agreed with me that that

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<v Speaker 1>was way miss priced, way undervalued, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, I for myself and on the

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of a few friends and making accumulative ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to win two million dollar bet on the Minnesota

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<v Speaker 1>Timberwolves to win the championship. That they were down to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty to one before yesterday's game. They are now fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to one after yesterday's game on hard Rock, and which means,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, that bet, that ten thousand dollars ticket

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<v Speaker 1>is now worth forty thousand dollars. Like it's still way

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<v Speaker 1>up in what the perceived value of it is. But

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<v Speaker 1>obviously last night stung, and so let's so there's the bet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, context of it. We'll get to more on

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<v Speaker 1>that if we need to, as the as this season

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<v Speaker 1>and series evolves. I think the biggest thing to come

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<v Speaker 1>out of yesterday's game actually was that Io left the

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<v Speaker 1>game with a heel injury, which to me means his

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<v Speaker 1>season's over. He is a young player who has not

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<v Speaker 1>yet been paid, who had a calf injury, a calf strain,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden it migrated down to

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<v Speaker 1>the heel. And you don't have to be Bill ny

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<v Speaker 1>the science guy to know, Hey, what is between the

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<v Speaker 1>calf and the heel? What is that one? Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the achilles so io, I don't think we'll play again,

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<v Speaker 1>which no, Devincenzo, no io. It makes them even thinner.

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<v Speaker 1>And you saw yesterday that when Clark's in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>it just kills them on offense, and when Bones is

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, it kills them on defense. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it really demands a lot out of Anthony Edwards, who

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday looked more hampered by the injury than he did

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<v Speaker 1>in Game one, and of Terrence Shannon Junior, who has

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<v Speaker 1>been a revelation and awesome, but it's hard to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on him night in night out. With that said, at

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<v Speaker 1>no point did I think Minnesota was gonna win both

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<v Speaker 1>in San Antonio, And had they won both in San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>the series would just be over. The Spurs were not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose both at home and then come back and

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<v Speaker 1>win that. I think they knew that, and I think Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>who yesterday was a good reminder for them, that, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>given Devincenzo's injury, given Io's injury, given Anthony Edwards not

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<v Speaker 1>being anywhere close to one hundred percent, if we don't

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<v Speaker 1>come out absolutely hair on fire, we're gonna get beat.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to. We always have to be the more

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<v Speaker 1>desperate team anytime we want to win one of these games,

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<v Speaker 1>and yesterday they weren't. The offense was awful. The that

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter was one of the longest, most miserable slogs

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<v Speaker 1>of basketball I've ever seen through. By the way, through

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six minutes through three quarters last night, there were

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<v Speaker 1>forty one combined fouls. Think about that, a foul every

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<v Speaker 1>forty five seconds for which is why the third quarter

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<v Speaker 1>took like fifty five minutes. But the Spurs had to

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<v Speaker 1>have it, and the Spurs got it. Now does it

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<v Speaker 1>change my opinion that I had after Game one that

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota is gonna win the series. It doesn't do. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Minnesota's margin of error just got a lot smaller. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but I I will if if I'm wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about Anthony Edwards being able to ramp up his minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to get closer to being Anthony Edwards,

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna end up being wrong about the series

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<v Speaker 1>and just flatly But I think yesterday was a combination

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of factors that led to the Timberwolves

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<v Speaker 1>just not being locked in, and the Timberwolves defensively being dreadful,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Spurs everybody getting involved because it wasn't he listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Wimby was super active setting the tone early and then

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that much and didn't have to do that

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<v Speaker 1>much on the offensive end the rest of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He still is struggling, at least somewhat with his jump

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<v Speaker 1>shot now that you could argue is a little concerning

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<v Speaker 1>for Minnesota that when if Wimby starts hitting his threes

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<v Speaker 1>he was two of seven in yesterday's game. He once

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<v Speaker 1>again for the second straight game, didn't get to the

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<v Speaker 1>free throw line a ton. So they're guarding Wimby fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fact that outside of San Antonio was fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>for thirty two from three shot thirty three free throws,

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<v Speaker 1>hit the league's first ever ali oop three, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the coolest plays of the season to beat the shot clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Champenney had a stretch of time where he went on

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<v Speaker 1>an individual twelve zero run and honest to God, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if anyone on the Timberwolves feels like they

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<v Speaker 1>played well. Here's one other piece of it before we

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<v Speaker 1>get demonds to some of the bigger picture stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>is just patently obvious for the rest of this series.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden McDaniels cannot get in foul trouble the way he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Jaden McDaniels yesterday, in a game that Minnesota lost

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty eight, was only a minus six in his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes, like he he has been defensively and with

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<v Speaker 1>the burst he gives you offensively and his length. He's

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<v Speaker 1>so important, and this entire series he's been in foul

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<v Speaker 1>trouble and so he's got to be better on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not listen. Mike Conley's games are gonna ab and

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<v Speaker 1>flow because, as Aunt so eloquently told us, Mike's old

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<v Speaker 1>as hell. Mike is the It's the Greg Odin Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Durant draft class. That two through five from that draft class,

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<v Speaker 1>Demons are all still playing. It's Durant, Conley, Al Horford,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff Green from the seven draft class. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>so all playing you know, varying levels, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Conley is gonna if you get two more solid games

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<v Speaker 1>out of Conolly this series. It's a huge win. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Jalen I think the Spurs are just totally fine

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<v Speaker 1>with not guarding Jalen Clark, and the Spurs are totally

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<v Speaker 1>fine with bones Hiland getting as many minutes as the

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<v Speaker 1>Timberwolves want to give them. And on the flip side,

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<v Speaker 1>the Aaron Fox had a bit of a bounce back game,

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<v Speaker 1>which is critical for San Antonio.

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<v Speaker 3>What go ahead, No, I mean a great bounce back game.

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<v Speaker 3>Consider the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was early on, like he finished with sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think he had eleven in the first quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's probably more than he had, but it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like he got going early and that was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to steady himself. So I still think Minnesota is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just wanted the split in San Antonio and

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<v Speaker 1>they got it. I believe their worst case scenario is

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<v Speaker 1>now it's two to two going back to San Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>and because I don't think they're losing both at home,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there's a real chance they win both

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<v Speaker 1>at home and it's three to one going back to

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<v Speaker 1>San Antonio. But they are getting thinner and thinner, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are going to have to have Anthony Edwards be

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<v Speaker 1>flatly considerably better if they're gonna win this series, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have some follow ups here.

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<v Speaker 3>Wimby only played in twenty six minutes in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Does it worry you moving forward? Him playing in a

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<v Speaker 3>long series, his ability to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, his ability to play big minutes. So that's that

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<v Speaker 1>is the one of the taxes of Minnesota getting just annihilated.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Wimby got a quick night. Yeah, if they had

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<v Speaker 1>just been able to keep it somewhere from twelve to

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen and you can put more more minutes on Wimby

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<v Speaker 1>that accumulate over the course of the series, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been valuable. Instead, he doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>play it all in the fourth quarter, I do. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't listen. I thought Winby looked absolutely worn out at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of Game one. Zach Lows said it was

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<v Speaker 1>the third most minutes he's ever played in any game

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<v Speaker 1>in his career. And I ain't get showed up at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that game. He should probably now be

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<v Speaker 1>fresher for game three. And he came out, you know,

0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.399
<v Speaker 1>guns blazing last night, as he's supposed to. But it

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.880
<v Speaker 1>is every other game, every other day until we get

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<v Speaker 1>to Game six, and I just don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>built up the endurance over the course of the season

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<v Speaker 1>because of how they've used him. All right, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little Ants here, Demonse. I know that you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be the key to the series.

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<v Speaker 3>H So Ant came off the bench a game and

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<v Speaker 3>Fince said that he could possibly be seeing more minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that it'll be too late by the

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<v Speaker 2>time that comes.

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<v Speaker 1>No, listen, I think Anna will start Game three. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the other I kind of has to kind of has

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<v Speaker 1>to the idea of being able to have an Ant

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<v Speaker 1>come off the bench. Is a nice curveball to throw,

0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:29.760
<v Speaker 1>but they need energy and execution offensively to start the game.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is and isn't is a superb defender.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just you know, he's not their best defensive player,

0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's far and away their best offensive player. And

0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:48.720
<v Speaker 1>when he's out on the court, you can put out

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<v Speaker 1>really good defenders, you know, at almost every spot with

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<v Speaker 1>Jaden and Rudy and when Nas is out there, So

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<v Speaker 1>it just gives you a lot of options in verse ssatility.

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<v Speaker 1>So I listen, They're not gonna win the series with

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<v Speaker 1>him playing twenty five minutes a game. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think if you could play twenty five minutes on May fifth,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be able to play more, Or May fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll be able to play more minutes on

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<v Speaker 1>May eighth and May tenth and May twelfth. Uh, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk Nick sixers.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Knicks won, and they had a close one

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time in a while in these playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yesterday during the tiers, you said that the Knicks are

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<v Speaker 3>playing almost too well. Is this more like what you're

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<v Speaker 3>expecting from them moving forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, Listen, I thought yesterday as a really solid

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>win by them, and they're not gonna We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot, but they were the first team in

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<v Speaker 1>the history of the NBA to win three straight playoff

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>games by twenty five points. Just blowing teams out every

0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>single night in the playoffs is not really a thing,

0:24:55.480 --> 0:24:57.440
<v Speaker 1>as evidenced by the fact nobody had done what the

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Knicks did, and so yeah, it it is not surprising

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.439
<v Speaker 1>that they finally actually had a close game and a

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>game that it looked like at various times Philly might steal.

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.440
<v Speaker 1>It's also not surprising at all, Demons that Philly ran

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>out of gas. They were a thin team with Embiid

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 1>without him. They're so they're starters with EMBIID. Their starting

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>lineup is EMBIID, obviously, Paul George Ubre, Maxi Edgecombe. Those

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:39.159
<v Speaker 1>four guys, their regular non EMBIID starters played forty three minutes,

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>forty minutes, forty minutes, and forty seven for Maxi, And

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:50.719
<v Speaker 1>so when that happens, you're just gonna be on fumes.

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Our guy, Quinton Grimes had a bit of a rough game.

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>He's got to listen. They're asking a lot of them,

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:06.680
<v Speaker 1>but he had you know, he had a decent look

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>at a three with twenty five seconds left down five

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit it. And Drummond's just not gonna be able

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to give you a ton of productive minutes. Bona is

0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to give you a ton of

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>productive minutes, which means you are going to be playing

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>small with Paul George as your biggest guy on the court.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be playing an undrafted guy Dominique Barlow, who

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<v Speaker 1>actually was okay last night, probably a few more minutes

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>than you would like. Meanwhile, the Knicks going into the

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 1>game are fully healthy. And because it's not the Tibbs Knicks,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>it's the Mike Brown Knicks, their bench guys are used

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<v Speaker 1>to playing. And so Carkson and Sham and Alvarado and

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<v Speaker 1>Hucked Porty pardon me.

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<v Speaker 2>Really do anything this scene in this game?

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>No, but he gave the guys rest. No, you're the

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>bench didn't do much, but you can just it allows

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>It allows Towns and Bridges and Og all those guys

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>to not play forty some They're still playing huge minutes.

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 1>Don't get me wrong, Josh Hart played massive minutes. But

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>they can get breathers when they need them. Now. I'm

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 1>scared of hamstring injuries, and OG seemed to hurt his hamstring.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>He has had hamstring issues before. OG has been having

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs of its life. Man, yea, this even going

0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>out with injury yesterday. This postseason, OG and Nanobi is

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>playing thirty five minutes a game averaging twenty one point

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>seven rebounds on here is splits sixty two percent from

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the field, fifty four percent from three. He has been

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just on fire for two and a half weeks now,

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<v Speaker 1>I I am anxious about what his actual status is

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of the series. Hamstring injuries scare me

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>and they tend not to just go away, So that is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that is the primary concern for the next

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<v Speaker 1>coming out of this game Philly. It's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>handicap Philly because I have no idea what Imbeds health

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:54.240
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be. And in Game one it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>he got his knee hurt a couple times, but he

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>missed this game with ankle and hip injuries, so I

0:29:04.880 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 1>don't so I don't really know, you know, what his

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>status is With a healthy Embiid, particularly if Og is out,

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Philly can win both the games in Philly,

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and it can be too two going back to New York.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Philly has Guy for Guy the talent to

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>match the Knicks, even if they're not as deep as

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the Knicks. But without Embiid, I don't think Philly has

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:42.719
<v Speaker 1>the horses. And that then gets me to something I

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>just want to say big picture about EMBIID. I don't

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 1>know if there's a player who I feel worse for

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 1>as far as where it looks like his career is

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>going to go because of injury. And we have had

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 1>plenty of guys demons who have had career altering or

0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>ending injuries, but in a very odd way, this seems

0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 1>a different type of cruel. Like listen, Derek Rose blew

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>out his knee and his career was never the same.

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>It was one moment, a specific thing. Bill Walton, who

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>will be the EMBID comp destroyed his foot and his

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>career was never the same. Grant Hill had, you know,

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>basically a botched ankle surgery and his career was never

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the same. That is, the career altering or the career

0:30:55.880 --> 0:31:03.360
<v Speaker 1>ending injury is something that we have seen throughout sports history.

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>EMBIID is so different, and to me it would be

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 1>if it were me, it would be a different type

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of frustration because it's so many despair it and seemingly

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:27.719
<v Speaker 1>unrelated ailments. He's number three pick of the draft. He

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>missed the first two years of his career dealing with

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>foot problems. He then throughout his career dealt with various

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>knee issues. He then won year in the playoffs, got

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>elbowed in the final seconds of a game and got

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I think a broken eye socket. It was either it

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>was either skull or eye socket, but it was just right,

0:31:57.480 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>like he had nothing to do with his previous injury.

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>He then in one postseason got Bell's poulsy and half

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>his face collapsed and he could he was like squinting,

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't open his eye. This year he gets a

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>pin to Sited's. It just feels so random and unfair

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that he likely is going to It's one thing to

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 1>injure your career and be like, you know what, I've

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>got it. This sucks and I've just got to eat it.

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:39.959
<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't good enough to get over the hump. Instead,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>he might end his career saying and I don't know,

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know it. You know what it was going

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to be. And that's why it was so exciting when

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 1>they had to comeback against Boston because they were the underdog.

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>He had the appended is I think most people have

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.239
<v Speaker 1>chalked up all, right, another brutal luck year, and then

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like, holy shit, is this the year they break through?

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And then he gets banged up hip and ankle in

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>game one and he's out for Game two. It's just

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>it just.

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Sucks to get through.

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 3>It seems like he tries to come back every single

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>time as soon as he possibly, trying.

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>To do everything he can, and it might just be,

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, his body is not built for this. Just

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>he's too big and it's too And again I'm not

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>early in his career. He could have done more to

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 1>stay in better shape and to you know, take care

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of himself better. I understand that he oddly, I don't

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>know if you know this demands. He was like famous

0:33:54.280 --> 0:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>for having like an insane Shirley Temple habit, like like

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>a dozen like just just with yeah, I think and

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:14.279
<v Speaker 1>so like we're good the yeah, but drinking your calories

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>is never a good way if you're a peak, you know, athlete. Yeah,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 1>uh and so and so he would be a little

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.799
<v Speaker 1>heavy and that would, you know, wear on him. It'd

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>be harder for him stay in shape, all those things.

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>I get that. I'm not saying he has handled everything perfectly,

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:35.879
<v Speaker 1>but man, he does not deserve this level of bad luck.

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 1>And the Sixers can't win the series without him.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, Yeah, just on the Philly side. Like I mean,

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 3>it's also shout out to him for sticking with him

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:46.919
<v Speaker 3>through it all.

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>But geez, I mean, he's He's one of the greatest

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>scoring sinners of all time. He has multiple years averaging

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>more than thirty points. He's won multiple scoring championships, He's

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 1>won an MVP, and he just has such a hard

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:12.640
<v Speaker 1>time getting to the finish line. And it almost happened

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>by default this year. And I'm a big proponent of

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>teams not tanking, and the customers, you know, or they're

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>paying customers, take the regular season seriously. All of that.

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I would almost put Embiid in a separate category. And

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>if the Sixers next year, said Joel Embiid is not

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>playing in a single game until game fifty five, and

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.240
<v Speaker 1>starting with game fifty five he is going to play

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>twice a week ramping up to the playoffs, I would

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 1>try it. I honest to god, I would like, see,

0:35:57.600 --> 0:35:57.959
<v Speaker 1>is it.

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>Possible, by right?

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Is it possible that the lesson for Embiid is he

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>can give you at this point forty games. And if

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, do you need to save twenty five

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>of those? You would hope for the postseason and ramp

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>them up that way. I don't know what else you do.

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.959
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well it's Basketball Hall of Fame. So yes,

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>first ballot, you win an MVP, you're a Hall of Famer.

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And but he has missed more games in his career

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>than he's played. Okay, And it's just it's such a unique,

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>such a unique career. All right, let's talk OKAC and

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>then let's talk Lakers.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 3>So we'll get to the Lakers side of it in

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 3>a second. But you had a bone to pick with

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 3>the reigning MVP, and it just so happens that the

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 3>internet agrees with you.

0:36:57.640 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>We got a sweet for you, guys.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Because of the we're saying. They agreed with me because

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>of the numbers on it. Yes, so I said, call

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>me old fashioned, but I think the soon to be

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>two time MVP should drive to the basket with the

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>intent to score instead of driving to the basket with

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the intent to trick the ref. And I guess it

0:37:16.800 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>did good numbers. So I'm going to go kind of

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>meta here for a moment because thunder fans. Demont's thunder

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>fans are so on tilt about this specific criticism that

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>there is a level of spiraling that is rare to see.

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I am. Of all the takes I've had in my

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:57.880
<v Speaker 1>whole career, this is the one that you know what,

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting hit with you racist for real? They're like,

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>where where are you say? I had somebody say, oh,

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 1>this coming from the guy who loves Joker, and I'm like, man,

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 1>you guys are really on tilt right now. So and

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:29.360
<v Speaker 1>again that's a total you know what sidebar to the

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:36.120
<v Speaker 1>sidebar two. I have two points on the Lebron flopping stuff.

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>One is the clip that that goes around everywhere of

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Lebron snapping his head back when he gets swiped at

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that angle, it looks like he doesn't get touched. And

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>then if you actually remember that game or you see

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the non gift angle, he gets hit in the face,

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>he gets stone hit in the face and be like,

0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:05.719
<v Speaker 1>this is Lebron flopping? Now look what is here? Is

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 1>what I tell me if you think I'm being If.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:12.439
<v Speaker 3>This is different styles of whatever, it's so different.

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Fact we need different words for it. Like what what

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Lebron has done forever is if you actually touch his face,

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>he will act like a sniper hit him like the

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and that and by the way, that's only if it's

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>in the open court or after the play's completed. And

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>that's where Lebron's been, you know, had some bad ones

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>where he gets he's driving to the basket, gets hit

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>on the head. The hit on the head clearly does

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 1>not bother him. He tries to finish the layup, and

0:39:53.680 --> 0:39:56.279
<v Speaker 1>then once the basketball part's done, he's grabbing his head.

0:39:56.280 --> 0:40:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, ah, like that. So and if you're out

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>in the open court guarding him and you hit him,

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, hit him, graze his nose, He's gonna snap

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>his head back. That that is.

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit of embellishing.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>It's it's right. It is a and you can hate that,

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>you can whatever. I'm not the I'm not defending it.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it is a separate category of what

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:30.879
<v Speaker 1>Lebron has never done. And this is and I don't

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 1>think and Luca is a flopper, but what those guys

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>don't do is drive to the basket with the intent,

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>with no intent whatsoever, of shooting the ball or making

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 1>a basket. And I am not saying like it is.

0:40:54.640 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>It is a different thing entirely, this specific thing that

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Shay was doing in that first quarter, that infuriates people

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>the just random flail throw the ball to try to

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>get a foul. And by the way, I am not

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>arguing that Shae only does that. Shae is one of

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the most prolific drivers to the basket. He he does

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>very often get actually fouled and still finish. He is

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:34.759
<v Speaker 1>a great player. But one of the clubs in his

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>bag that he goes to more often than any other

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>all time great player is the just cartoonish flailing about

0:41:50.320 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>throwing his own self to the ground to get a call.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's technical.

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 3>It's a technical in theory it should be.

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>And Thunder fans can't accept that winning a championship get

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>you the championship and the bragging rights and the belt,

0:42:25.280 --> 0:42:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but it does not get you necessarily love, and at

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 1>times it doesn't even get you as much respect as

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you think you deserve. And oddly, you know the person

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>who could have told thunder fans that a person that

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Thunder fans, many of them feel exactly that way about

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>his championships. Former Thunder Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant left the

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Thunder went to Golden State, played ten out of ten

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 1>ten basketball in those playoff runs. One championships yet Thunder

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>fans and a lot of other people like, yeah, but yeah,

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:15.240
<v Speaker 1>but it's like, what do you mean I'm Finals MVP.

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean I played great? What do you

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>mean we won the championship? Yeah? But and Shay's historyonics

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>particularly and I've talked to this a lot, along with

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Dort's rugby are yeah, but about how the general public's

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:50.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna feel about that team. It just is. And then

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:57.120
<v Speaker 1>you add to it, what I think is a really

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>in The most interesting thing demon say about Game one

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 1>of Lakers Thunder was the refs didn't get tricked and

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it really threw Shaye off. He had his worst game

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>of the year. Terrible.

0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Look, man, you came out a couple of weeks ago.

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 3>You're screaming at the crowd saying you don't need it,

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:27.839
<v Speaker 3>you need it, you need it a little bit, man,

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, how dare you come out and say

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't need it.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. Do I think Shaye would be one

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:40.840
<v Speaker 1>of the five best players in the league if free

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>throws were abolished?

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 2>I do.

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I think He's that skilled, Like if it was just

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like every time you get fouled, it's just side out

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and which would then make it to where there would

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.719
<v Speaker 1>be no incentive to ever flop. You'd just be like, well,

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.319
<v Speaker 1>you're just gonna have to start the possession over. I

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 1>still think he would be a great player, and if

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>free throws were abolished, I think the Thunder would still

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>be the best team in the league. I do I

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>believe that. But do I think he would have had

0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 1>it would have one hundred and forty consecutive games of

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty points?

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Do I think he would be fifty five percent on

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty to a game as a guard? No? And do

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Game one of this round was evidence to that? Yes,

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 1>because what I think has happened a lot, and people

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:45.200
<v Speaker 1>can say, look at his free throw numbers, like Luca

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:52.240
<v Speaker 1>shoots more free throws. Luca is great at foul baiting,

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about it. And Luca can flop a

0:45:54.960 --> 0:46:00.400
<v Speaker 1>bit too, But it is the what Shay does early

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>in these games sets the precedent for you can't actually

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>guard me if you get anywhere relatively close. I have

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>mastered tricking the officials, and I will early in the

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 1>game get to the line. You then will have no

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 1>choice but to adjust how you guard me. Now, I

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 1>can get to any spot I want on the court.

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm the best mid range player the league has seen

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>in twenty years minimum, and now I'm unguardable. That doesn't

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 1>work quite as well in the postseason, which is why

0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:47.360
<v Speaker 1>over the last two years of basketball, Shay has scored

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>twenty plus in one hundred and forty straight regular season

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:59.440
<v Speaker 1>games and in twenty eight of his playoff games. I'm sorry,

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>and in four of his playoff games of his twenty

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>eight he hasn't. And so I don't. I don't know

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>what thunder fans want me to say other than let

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>me say, let me put it like this. It is,

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>and maybe this will reach a few thunder fans who

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>are also I'm sure NFL fans, whether they're Chiefs fans,

0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>owned remind me say something about the Chiefs thing. In

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>a second, Chiefs fans or Cowboys fans or whoever they're,

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:51.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, because Oklahoma City doesn't have a team. It's

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a little tush pushy. Yeah, it's legal, it's effective, and

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 1>you're the champ. Everybody ain't gonna like it, and everybody

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna respect it, and you can, like, you can

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:13.960
<v Speaker 1>do it all you want, but it's not going to

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>be as admirable as you would like. Here's the thing

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I want to say about the Chiefs, because here's another

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>thing Thunder fans are high on me saying blaming the

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 1>refs is for losers. When it came to the chief

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff and me talking about because the Chiefs are champs,

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 1>everyone's now blaming the officials. I want to make something

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>very clear. I stand by all of that, because the

0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>chief's equivalent of what the Thunder conversation is the lunatics

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>on the internet who's like, hey, the head of officiating

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 1>used to be a thunderfan, or hey, this ref is

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 1>wearing Shay's shoes. That shit is stupid. I do not

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>think there is a conspiracy to help Oklahoma City. I

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.160
<v Speaker 1>do not think the fix is in. I do not

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:11.960
<v Speaker 1>think the refs are doing this on purpose, that the

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>narrative on Kansas City was the fix is in they

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>need the Chiefs to be good for ratings. I'm not

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.919
<v Speaker 1>saying any of that. I'm saying something very different. Your

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 1>star player is an actor some of the time, and

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it. That's what I'm saying, and so

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>it is. I'm not blaming the refs. I'm simply saying

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I find it unsporting, and what happened in the first

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>quarter of that game was pretty unbecoming of the MVP demonse.

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It looked like you wanted to say something.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not blaming the refs. I think the refs

0:49:59.360 --> 0:50:02.440
<v Speaker 3>have a big, a big play in this, Like they

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 3>can control it very easily, like SGA can do that

0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 3>all he wants to. I think the refs have so

0:50:07.360 --> 0:50:10.239
<v Speaker 3>much control over the situation where it's like, hey man,

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 3>maybe just not be bamboozled like this. You guys watch

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 3>the games right like.

0:50:15.000 --> 0:50:19.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so so I think that's a great point. So

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.200
<v Speaker 1>let me so. I think the refs could be and

0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>should be better on this. But when I say I'm

0:50:27.040 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 1>not blaming the refs, what I mean is I am

0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>not saying, OKC one because of the officials. OKAC is

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>winning because of a bad call. I'm not saying that

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 1>like that. When the blame the refs to me is

0:50:42.920 --> 0:50:48.239
<v Speaker 1>like the sorry Bills fans, but the Bills in the

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 1>game against the Broncos, who were like, it was a catch,

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.439
<v Speaker 1>it was a catch, we win the like we would

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>have won the game, but the refs cost us. That's

0:50:56.840 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the blaming the ref stuff that I don't like. I

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:05.280
<v Speaker 1>do think the league should enforce its anti flopping stuff,

0:51:05.760 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>and the refs should be better at determining whether or

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:16.080
<v Speaker 1>not a there was real contact and b not rewarding

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 1>guys who don't appear like they're actually trying to go score.

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:23.319
<v Speaker 3>In this shame of the other team getting a free

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 3>throw because you flopped, I think would just knit that

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.440
<v Speaker 3>in the bud so fast.

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I like that. That's a good point. That's a

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:31.919
<v Speaker 1>good point.

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:34.120
<v Speaker 3>And then it's like your teammate is gonna be like,

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 3>hey man, chill out.

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't even thought of that, but I think that's

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a good point. Just the embarrassment of that piece of it,

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.520
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<v Speaker 1>actual game.

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<v Speaker 3>Austree you have the worst playoff shooting performance in Lakers history.

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 3>And Luca also confirmed a timeline on his healing that

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have him cod an eight week timeline, by the way,

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't have him coming back into the Western Conference finals?

0:52:50.239 --> 0:52:52.759
<v Speaker 3>Is it time for Los Angeles to wave the wife.

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 1>A listen if Luca's not coming back. There's not a

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>lot paths you can find to winning this series. There's

0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:03.760
<v Speaker 1>just it's and there's no shame in that I do. However,

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>there are some interesting angles. The rest of the series

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>is very important for Austin Reeves. He's been eaten up

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 1>by the thunder this year and how many demand how

0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>often this year did I have to listen to Lebron's

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the third best player on the Laker.

0:53:25.120 --> 0:53:27.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot, a lot.

0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:34.920
<v Speaker 1>To the point where if if I even said Lebron's

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>the second best guy, people be like this Homer and

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I like Austin. I think Austin's an excellent player. I do.

0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>I do think it's fair to question whether or not

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>if he is your second best player, are you a

0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:07.120
<v Speaker 1>championship caliber team? I do? And that's I'm talking about

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:13.839
<v Speaker 1>like post Lebron Lakers stuff because a lot of the year,

0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 1>some la some folks who call themselves Laker fans but

0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>are actually just Kobe fans and actually not, you know,

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of anti Lebron, even though we brought him a championship,

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>have been counting down the minutes till we can get

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>this albatross off our books and start the Luke Austin

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Reeves era, move on from Lebron, Max out Austin, get cooking.

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm old enough to remember my pal Rich Paul saying, Hey,

0:54:56.080 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>if the Lakers are serious about winning a championship this year,

0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Austin Reeves might be the most valuable trade piece. He

0:55:07.200 --> 0:55:09.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about. In Austin Reeves Jaron Jackson Junior Trade, he

0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:16.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about using Austin in a package where Luke and

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Lebron can be your lead dogs on offense. Now that

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>for this year, that would have been a moot point anyway,

0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>if Luca still suffered this injury. But so much of

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the Lakers moves the last few years have been as

0:55:39.320 --> 0:55:43.960
<v Speaker 1>if they are at least a tiny bit annoyed that

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Lebron hasn't fallen off the cliff yet. And the moment

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this season it looked like, okay, okay, father times finally

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:04.279
<v Speaker 1>caught up posts Attica when his numbers were down. How

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>many times did we fucking have to see Lakers Lebron

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>on court, Lakers Lebron off court those numbers. Then the

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 1>moment that started to happen, we get the long ESPN

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>article with the reporting of yeah, Genie Buss is, you know,

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>excited to get out of the Lebron business. They're excited

0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:34.120
<v Speaker 1>to turn the page. And then fast forward to Sinko

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to Mayo twenty twenty six. Luca is out with a

0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>soft tissue injury. Austin has the least efficient shooting performance

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:49.359
<v Speaker 1>in a playoff game in the history of the franchise,

0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and Lebron James thoroughly and comprehensively outplays the soon to

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>be two time MVP is the best player on the

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 1>goddamn court once again, and folks are talking about, yeah,

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:11.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'd want him back, but only at a huge

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 1>pay cut. Okay, I mean, y'all can have that opinion.

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you've seen this postseason that makes

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you think Lebron James is still not one of the

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>guys in the league that's worth the max. I certainly

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you've seen this postseason that would make

0:57:41.800 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you think, Yeah, listen, we love Lebron, and Lebron's an

0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>all time legend, but if we're trying to win a championship,

0:57:51.040 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Austin Reeves is just clearly more impactful. Really,

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and again, I really like Austin a lot, and I

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 1>would be in the business of paying Austin a ton

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of money. But we just watched a forty one year

0:58:16.200 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 1>old be the best player on the court in a

0:58:20.280 --> 0:58:24.760
<v Speaker 1>series in a game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, and

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't near enough because the Lakers kind of paused

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>going for a championship as far as team building to

0:58:36.640 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 1>a post Lebron era. Meanwhile, Lebron's still the most reliable

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 1>guy they got and Luke evidently is weeks away. It's

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:52.640
<v Speaker 1>been five now, by the way, somebody screwed up the

0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:57.800
<v Speaker 1>reporting on this, or either someone screwed up the reporting

0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>or Lucas behind schedule because when he gotn't nobody yeah,

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:12.800
<v Speaker 1>well correct, And the original reporting I thought was three

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:15.840
<v Speaker 1>to five weeks, maybe it was four to six weeks.

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:18.720
<v Speaker 1>At no point did I hear six to eight weeks,

0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And now Lucas saying no, it's just flat eight weeks

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:22.560
<v Speaker 1>two months.

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:27.479
<v Speaker 2>So I.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>The playoffs are always a fun little microscope to see

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 1>who is and who isn't actually impactful, and again this

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:50.160
<v Speaker 1>is not. I want to make this incredibly clear. I

0:59:50.280 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>really like Austin Reeves and I think he'll be better tonight.

0:59:55.440 --> 1:00:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I also want to make this clear, Austin Reeves has

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 1>done tremendous work, tremendous work honing his skills this offseason.

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:18.800
<v Speaker 1>He needs to do a little more work just getting

1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:24.000
<v Speaker 1>physically stronger like that. One of the reasons he has

1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 1>such trouble against the Thunder is all those guys are

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 1>just so much stronger than him, and I think he

1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>will and I think he's going to be a laker.

1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they're probably gonna max him out, and you know,

1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the best undrafted players ever, like literally

1:00:43.480 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the best undrafted players ever. But there was

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chirpin about folks being excited for the

1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Lebron era to end, about needing to move off, about

1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:02.800
<v Speaker 1>turning the page, and Luke all of a sudden's out

1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 1>two months. Austin is struggling mightily and Lebron's just there

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>out playing Shay. All right, Demonse, let's talk Draymond for

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<v Speaker 1>a second.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like all I have to say for this

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:20.080
<v Speaker 3>one is Draymond Green was on the inside the NBA

1:01:20.160 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 3>show last night, then you but he might have ruined

1:01:24.840 --> 1:01:27.880
<v Speaker 3>the expectations for Golden State fans. He said success might

1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 3>not be for us at this point, and at this

1:01:30.680 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 3>point a championship. You also Cook Barkley, Barkley saying that

1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:37.120
<v Speaker 3>the hopes are to just not look like you did

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Houston uniform. You wanted to talk about this,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, I'm just deciding how I want to phrase

1:01:52.200 --> 1:01:55.120
<v Speaker 1>this and how harsh I want to be or not.

1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give Draymond Green some very friendly advice

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:09.240
<v Speaker 1>in the spirit of how close he is with some

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:18.400
<v Speaker 1>of my most respected friends and colleagues, and you know,

1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:22.040
<v Speaker 1>one of my closest friends is a very close friend

1:02:22.040 --> 1:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of his. If you want to be good on television, Draymond,

1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you have to be able to laugh at yourself, particularly

1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:47.520
<v Speaker 1>if you are going to be a harsh critic of others.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it from me, buddy, like I get to be

1:02:54.280 --> 1:03:02.360
<v Speaker 1>all somewhat arrogant, annoying chesty. I also three weeks ago

1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>put on a clown nose and rainbow wig, and I

1:03:09.040 --> 1:03:12.520
<v Speaker 1>was the one that alerted the world. I picked an

1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:21.160
<v Speaker 1>NBA finals where both teams got popped in round one.

1:03:21.400 --> 1:03:25.000
<v Speaker 1>What used to be Turner Sports and now you know

1:03:25.640 --> 1:03:29.000
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of gone. But inside the NBA has clearly

1:03:30.720 --> 1:03:36.800
<v Speaker 1>been hoping and grooming you to one day takeover for

1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Charles freaking Barkley, maybe the greatest sports television performer ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that entire time, for as bright as you are,

1:03:52.560 --> 1:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you have not realized Barkley's key to his broadcast brilliant

1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is he relishes being the butt of the joke. He

1:04:08.920 --> 1:04:14.560
<v Speaker 1>gives it and he takes it with a smile. And

1:04:14.720 --> 1:04:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Draymond's total lack of any ability to laugh at himself,

1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:35.320
<v Speaker 1>makes some of his TV clips peak curb your enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncomfortable to watch the clip of him yesterday. Keep in

1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:46.720
<v Speaker 1>mind this is on the heels of him trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go high school resume for high school resume with Austin Rivers,

1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:57.280
<v Speaker 1>which I mean, like, what are we doing? And Austin Rivers,

1:04:57.920 --> 1:05:03.320
<v Speaker 1>who obviously it was not twenty five percent of the

1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:07.720
<v Speaker 1>pro that Draymond was, but is five hundred percent of

1:05:07.720 --> 1:05:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the broadcaster. Austin Rivers in his response, was like, hey, buddy,

1:05:12.960 --> 1:05:16.520
<v Speaker 1>here's where your facts were wrong. We weren't the same

1:05:16.560 --> 1:05:19.560
<v Speaker 1>high school player. We weren't the same college player. But

1:05:19.680 --> 1:05:22.240
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you have me clocked in the pros,

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<v Speaker 1>I give it to you. Obviously you do, and immediately

1:05:27.680 --> 1:05:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Austin Rivers eight miling is on NBA career. It removes

1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:35.640
<v Speaker 1>any type of AMMO you have. And then he just

1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:42.080
<v Speaker 1>kept killing you. But on the heels of that that

1:05:42.160 --> 1:05:51.280
<v Speaker 1>clip yesterday when Draymond says the goal is to not

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<v Speaker 1>look like Charles in Houston, and Charles, who I gotta think,

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<v Speaker 1>knew what he was doing. Instead of lightening the tension

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<v Speaker 1>by chuckling, just stared at him silently and then let

1:06:16.240 --> 1:06:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Draymond continue to try to dig himself deeper. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It took me three instances to be able to get

1:06:31.200 --> 1:06:39.040
<v Speaker 1>through it because it was such uncomfortable, awful television. And

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how high the cringe factor has to

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<v Speaker 1>be to make inside the freaking NBA uncomfortable television to

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest sports TV show that or PTI the greatest

1:06:55.440 --> 1:06:59.720
<v Speaker 1>sports TV shows ever. And Ernie was there, and Chuck

1:06:59.800 --> 1:07:04.400
<v Speaker 1>was and Kenny was there. And it took forty five

1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:11.800
<v Speaker 1>seconds of Draymond Green being delusional for me to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't ah like that, that feeling of like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>god stop. And the worst part about it all demons

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<v Speaker 1>seems fucking wrong. Chuck's first year in Houston was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>There is the idea and this is where this is

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<v Speaker 1>a great example of where ring culture.

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<v Speaker 2>It is tied to the heads.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Bro, Draymond Green's a Hall of Famer. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest defensive players of all time. I've said

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<v Speaker 1>time and again I think he's the second most important

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<v Speaker 1>warrior ever, not Klay Thompson. I believe all of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>He also is not in the same room of greatness

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<v Speaker 1>as Charles freaking Barkley an even old, out of shape

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Barkley in Houston was doing work. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that Chuck was some that Chuck with Houston was.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like Shack with Phoenix. I feel like he was trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To yes or shoot. He's trying to call him maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Shack with the Celtics or with the Cats, like the

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<v Speaker 1>late late Shack, or that it was Ewing with the Magic. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not his first year there. They made the

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<v Speaker 1>conference finals and he was awesome. He was for his

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<v Speaker 1>four years there. He was sixteen and twelve. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know the last time Draymond Green? I understand their different

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<v Speaker 1>players in not stats, guy, do you know the last

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<v Speaker 1>time Draymond Green averaged sixteen points a game? Honest to god?

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<v Speaker 1>The answer to that, uh no, Michigan State. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>last time. So don't give And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that. I'm pulling up as college debts now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna check to make sure. I would imagine he

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<v Speaker 1>averaged sixteen at Michigan State. Yeah, final year at Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>State sixteen point two. I mean, give me a break, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charles can annoy the hell out of me. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna sit here and let you recreate history

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<v Speaker 1>on who he was as a player. Yeah, even though

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<v Speaker 1>Charles does kind of sometimes try to recreate history that

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't ring chasing there, that he didn't join a

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<v Speaker 1>team that was a year removed winning back to back championships,

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<v Speaker 1>and that he was joining a former MVP and a

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<v Speaker 1>team and he was a former MVP. When he goes

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<v Speaker 1>after Lebron, he's like, I was old and washed when

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<v Speaker 1>I joined Houston. That's why it's okay that I joined

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<v Speaker 1>him with Clyde in a team and then Scotty joined two.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't that the Houston had beaten me in back

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<v Speaker 1>to back playoff series, so then I teamed up with

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<v Speaker 1>him to try to finally get over them, and I

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<v Speaker 1>still couldn't despite all that. Here's the thing, here's why

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<v Speaker 1>I think Draymond made a mistake. Charles has for so

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<v Speaker 1>long downplayed how good he was when he went to

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<v Speaker 1>Houston because he has wanted to criticize Kevin Durant for

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<v Speaker 1>joining the Warriors and Lebron for joining the Heat. He

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<v Speaker 1>has made people think, oh, when Charles joined Houston, he

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<v Speaker 1>must have sunned. No, he did not, no, he did not.

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<v Speaker 1>The year before Charles joined Houston, he was top ten

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<v Speaker 1>at MVP voting. Three years before he won it, and

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<v Speaker 1>two years before a Keeam won it, he was still awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I Charles' first year in Houston, he was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen and fourteen, nineteen and fourteen with five assists. They

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<v Speaker 1>made the conference finals. His final year in Houston, when

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, I was washed and I was terrible, he

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<v Speaker 1>was fifteen and ten fifteen and ten. I mean again

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<v Speaker 1>now that year, to be fair, he was injured and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't like he was not Charles Barkley, but when

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<v Speaker 1>he played, he was effective. I just I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't come on look like legit, angry, ready

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<v Speaker 3>to do something. When he said that.

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<v Speaker 1>I had, I I can't. Again, folks, you don't nobody

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<v Speaker 1>needs to take broadcasting advice from me. With that said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got an annoying voice, a ridiculous nose. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play sports past high school, and I've done pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, take it for what you will. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be a flamethrower, you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>totally fine with laughing with everybody when you're the one

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<v Speaker 1>getting burnt and that is a pitch that Draymond's never learned,

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<v Speaker 1>and unless he does, his peak broadcasting will be podcast

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<v Speaker 1>by himself as opposed to the Diamond Studio show that

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<v Speaker 1>has been desperately wanting to develop him for five years. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, choose your own adventure free advice like all

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if I ever need for some reason to

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<v Speaker 1>learn how to play arguably the greatest help side defense

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the NBA, you owe me one.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, take you know what, Take this

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<v Speaker 1>one on the House Mailbag episode tomorrow. Talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>guys then, Thank you Blue Dock, thank you Volume, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you Hard Rock, thank you Boost. What's right