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So a 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. A lot of coaches, I mean, 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: Sean Payton news what was pretty wild. I will give 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: some thoughts on that as well as Tom Rogers, Demiko, 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Uh, we'll be rocking and rolling. So 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire 23 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: in those d m s. I'll have one out this weekend. 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: Uh usually come out Sunday. We will have podcast next week. 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: Super Bowl week, no big deal, Chiefs Eagles pretty fired 26 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: up as well as if you listen on Collins feed 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: and make sure you subscribe to the three outfeed. 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I don't know 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: Sean Payton. I don't have any inside information on this. 67 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: When I read Adam Schefter's tweet that Sean Payton, I 68 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: was gonna say traded, but technically he was just hired 69 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: and then they traded picks for his rights. You was 70 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: a wow moment. I wouldn't say quite a jaw dropper, 71 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: but it was an eye opener for sure. My first 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: reaction before we dive into Sean Payton and Russell Wilson. 73 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: If I'm a Denver Bronco fan and they're a big brand, 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: I would imagine we have many listening. I would be elated. 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: I would be over the moon. You should be so 76 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: fired up if you're a Denver Bronco fan right now, 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: it's stupid. The excitement level should be at an all 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: time high. The only other guy they could have hired 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: who was available that would have even come close to 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: this level of excitement would be Jim Harbaugh. And clearly 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: they were kind of going down that road. Damiko Ryan's 82 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: who will dive into in a second, is not this 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: level because you needed someone who had a resume of 84 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: doing this before. Let's call what it is. Let's call 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: a spade a spade. You've got through some embarrassing times. 86 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: As Denver Bronco fan. That season last year was a joke. 87 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: To go from Nate Hackett two Sean Payton is a wide, 88 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: wide gap. It's kind of the equivalent of the opposite 89 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: of going from Jim Harbaugh to Jim tom Seula. Any 90 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: time you make an upgrade like that, it's an exciting time. 91 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: Not just landing the coach. It's exciting any time you 92 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: get a new owner. You never know exactly how it's 93 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: gonna go. Well, your owner has stupid money and will 94 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes. He said, Hey, it's gonna cost 95 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: pick thirty and next year's second round. Here you go. 96 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Because here's a reality. I picked I trade pick thirty 97 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: for a top five six NFL coach. Every day of 98 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: the week and twice on Sundays, it's a no brainer. 99 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: You could argue that Denver Broncos were so desperate if 100 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: they would have traded their entire draft for Sean Payton. 101 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even a flinch. Now, it's not nothing, that's 102 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: a large amount of compensation. But the ownership did what 103 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: they had to do. They came in talking a big 104 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: game because they got a lot of money, paid billions 105 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: of dollars for this franchise, and their first major move 106 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: was to land Sean Payton. A lot of people talk 107 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: a big game in sales and never land a damn thing. 108 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: Some people don't say anything and are always landing business. 109 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to follow the Walmart family, like are 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: they cocky? You guys living in Denver and follow the 111 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: team if you're a fan of the team, you know 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, how they've been talking 113 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: all I know, judging by their actions, big time move. 114 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: So if I'm a Denver Bronco fan, Hell yeah, Now 115 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: let's look at it from Sean Payton's side. Because my 116 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: first reaction I've had a couple of days now to 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: let this marinate, was why would he do that? Why 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: would he risk going to a team that has a 119 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: potential disaster quarterback situation, given that they might have a 120 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: guy trending down and making way too much money? And 121 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: that was gonna be if I recorded a podcast on 122 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday night or Wednesday night, whenever it happened, that would 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: have been my take. And as time went on, I 124 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: went on a walk and I just I thought a 125 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: lot about this, because that's what I do. I think 126 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: a lot about coaching moose, you know, sick. But luckily 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: I figured out a way to monetize it. And I 128 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: kept coming back to, well, guess what the reason he 129 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: would risk it all is? Because that's what successful people do. 130 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: They take chances. They are willing to risk stuff because 131 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: in this world, whether it's football, whether it's Wall Street, 132 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: whether it's building homes, the people that are willing to 133 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: take the biggest risks usually reek the reep the biggest rewards. Now, 134 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: sometimes when you take a big risk, it fails. Just 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: because you're good at your job or successful like a 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, doesn't mean it's guaranteed to work. But when 137 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you look at just look at around football. Andy Reid, 138 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: when he got hired by the camp Ce Chiefs ten 139 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: years later, it goes, God, look at all the success 140 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: he's had there. They had the number one pick in 141 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the draft and at the time he accepted the job, 142 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: they didn't have a quarterback. We wheeled and deal. He 143 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: got Alex Smith, they drafted some players and boom that 144 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: year they were in the playoffs. It's like, damn, he 145 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: changed in one season the culture of the canc Chiefs. 146 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh him the San Fransco forty niners when they 147 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: were a joke. Hell, he went to Stanford when they 148 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: were one and eleven. So why do we hold guys 149 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: to such high esteems that has success with such crappy teams, 150 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Because it's very, very difficult to do now. Of course, 151 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: he would rather coach if you were given the option 152 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: justin Herbert or Josh Allen or a good quarterback and 153 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: a team that has playoff ability and has literally just 154 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: been to the playoffs in a team like the Broncos 155 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: who haven't sniffed the playoffs in a while now, but 156 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't available, And when you factor in the option 157 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: of this is the riskiest job, given that their quarterback 158 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: situation could potentially be a disaster. It's also the one 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: that could potentially give him the biggest reward if he's 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: able to save Russell Wilson's career and get the Denver 161 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: Broncos one of the biggest brands on you know, west 162 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: of Texas in the league. Rolling again in a consistent 163 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: playoff team, he would get extra credit. Part of the 164 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: reason he became such a legend in New Orleans wasn't 165 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: because they won. It was because the franchise he took 166 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: over sucked, was a joke. They never won. So when 167 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: he got to the Saints and then he got up 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees and they started winning all the time, 169 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: and then they went to an NFC championship game a 170 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. They beat Payton Manning a Super Bowl. 171 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: You get extra credit for doing that. It's what Nick 172 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: Saban has done in Alabama is remarkable. Urban Meyer winning 173 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: in Ohio State, Florida, that's very hard to do. You 174 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: do the same thing at like, I don't know, Oregon State, 175 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: or you win at Kansas, you win at Texas Tech. 176 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: That's pretty damn impressive too. It is much harder to 177 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: win at places that haven't been winning. Now in football, 178 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: because of draft picks and salary cap, depending on individual situations, 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: you might have a quicker path. Well, this team, they 180 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: don't have any draft picks and they have a quarterback, 181 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: so there is a lot of pressure here on Sean Payton, 182 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: given that they gave eighty five million dollars, which is irrelevant. Ultimately, 183 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: that is completely irrelevant, right. It impacts your roster zero percent. 184 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: Whether I paid Sean Payton eight five million or eighty 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: five dollars, it has no impact on my football team. 186 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: Now what you pay the quarterback. That's why Dack's contract 187 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: and some of these contracts that are too big and 188 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: they're not living up to it, Kyler Murray, that impacts 189 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: my roster. We'll get into Russell here in a second. 190 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: But if Sean Payton just next year, this team is 191 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: nine and eight or in the playoffs, he gets extra 192 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: credit because this team this year we all watched it 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: was a joke. Now, part of that could just be 194 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Nate Hackett, who more than likely will never be a 195 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL again, will just completely over 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: his head and that happens like that's He's not the 197 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: first and he definitely won't be the last guy to 198 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: be put in that situation. But Sean Payton, my first reaction, 199 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: very risky job one. It's a high profile job too. 200 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: He's a high profile coach, so you could argue wherever 201 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: he went there be a lot of eyes on them, 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: but there's a risk. This job is very, very difficult. 203 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: It's not to me an easy fix. But that's what 204 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: makes Sean Payton. Sean Payton, he's willing to take that risk. 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: That's why he's successful. Successful people tend to take more risks. 206 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: And so after thinking about it for a couple of 207 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: years or I mean a couple of days, of course, 208 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: Sean Payton took this job. And speaking of the quarterback now, 209 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: I heard Coward talk about this because he knows Sean. 210 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: One thing they need to get Russell to do is 211 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: try to be a little more normal and be a 212 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: little more relatable with his teammates, because clearly there was 213 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: a disconnect this year, not just the parking spots in 214 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: the office, but just interacting. And I don't know if 215 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: that's possible. You might be able to influence a person's 216 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: personality in their teens, but when you're thirty three years 217 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: old and you've got a hundred million dollars in the bank, 218 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're changing. So I don't know 219 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: if they're changing this individual. I was at dinner last week, 220 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: eating at a bar with my girlfriend and we were 221 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: b asking with the people next to us, and this 222 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: guy was kind of in an industry where he'd know 223 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: and like the words. Kind of people think Russell Wilson 224 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: is a weirdo. So I don't know if you're changing 225 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: that now. Russell Wilson was a different cat when Seattle 226 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: was winning with him, he was a better player. Now 227 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: when you look at the way he succeeded, it was mobility, 228 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: keeping plays alive outside of the pocket, throwing moms. He's 229 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: never been sitting in the pocket. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, 230 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, and pick you apart, well, Drew Brees is 231 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: the guy that Sean Payton had a lot of success 232 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: with pocket quarterback accuracy, timing, rhythm. That's not necessarily Russell Wilson, 233 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: even when he was a Hall of Fame level quarterback. Now, 234 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe Sean Payton would tell you for the last five 235 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: years of Drew Brees, I wanted a more mobile Guy's 236 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: why I love Taysom Hill. So I'm very intrigued to 237 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: work with Russell Wilson. The question is gonna be because 238 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: no one's ever wondered like how much Russell cares about football, 239 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: how hard he tries about being good but being a 240 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: teammate and being all in with the group around you 241 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: is very important, and it definitely felt like there was 242 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: a major disconnect. Now, Sean Payton is not gonna kiss 243 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: his ass. He's not gonna be Nathaniel Hackett and just 244 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: bow at Russell's feet. He's gonna come in there and 245 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: tell it like it is. But at the most basic 246 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: level of pro sports, at the highest level, if you 247 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: don't have it anymore, there's only so much you can do. 248 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning his last season, the Denver Broncos won a 249 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. The reason they won a Super Bowl that 250 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: year was not Peyton Manning. It was the defense. Their 251 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: defense was freaking incredible. The m v P of that 252 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl was Von Miller. The reason they beat the 253 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: New England Patriots in that conference championship is the Patriots 254 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: couldn't block them. Their defense carried them. Now, Peyton had 255 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: had other great seasons where you've been he was super 256 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: Bowl worthy, but on that given year, and clearly moving forward, 257 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: it was over Roethlisberger Breeze Like at the end, they 258 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: were not elite level players anymore. And so if Russell 259 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: Wilson is not an elite level player, no matter how 260 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: will you coach him, no matter how much Russell tries 261 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: to capitulate to your demands of being tempting to be 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: more normal, it will not matter because if his play 263 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: is shot in terms of he's no longer as fast. 264 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: He's never been the most accurate guy right of just 265 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: in terms of in the throwing from within the pocket. 266 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: He's always kind of been more of a playmaking quarterback. 267 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: They're gonna be in some trouble now if they can 268 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: have him lose some weight become a little more mobile again. 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't mean running past the line of scrimmage. I 270 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: just mean keeping plays alive. Maybe you can get a 271 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: little magic back, but it's pro sports. And like Sean Payton, 272 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: what makes him great big ego. He believes he can 273 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: change things. Sometimes you can't, and that has historically got 274 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: coaches in trouble. So if Russell Wilson is not changeable, 275 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: I understand why Sean Payton risks it. This is a 276 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: disaster job because one you'd be stuck with a quarterback 277 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: that can't really play, But more importantly is the contract 278 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: is not going anywhere. That hinders your ability to build 279 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the team because the way the sport is set up 280 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: with a salary cap, so to me, fan base owners 281 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: hip a plus, I'd be fired up. Sean Payton completely 282 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: get why he's risking it million makes it a lot easier. 283 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: The question to me and this whole deal is the 284 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: quarterback and if his arrow is hell, if it's just neutral, 285 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: even if it's not pointing down, you're in major trouble 286 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: because neutral, based on last year, even with the better coach, 287 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: is not gonna be good enough. And the a f 288 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: C is not the NFC. 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At the end of the day, 330 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: Demiko is the Houston head coach and Sean Payton is 331 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: the Denver head coach. The details behind it are kind 332 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: of irrelevant once you factor in that they're both the 333 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: head coaches now and to meet Demko Oriyan's is like, 334 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: is Denver incredible opportunity only if Russell can still be good. 335 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: If he's not, it's not to me. Houston is a 336 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 1: blank slate one. The barrier for entry and the way 337 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: you ender doesn't get any better. The last two coaches 338 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: have been a joke. Now we can give the Texans 339 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: and Nick as Sario ship for doing it. Hiring David 340 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Kelley worked around the guy in Philly, nice guy, it was. 341 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: There wasn't any human being that ever worked with David Kelly. 342 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: Now half of them would never admit this, definitely publicly. 343 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: I'll be the only one that wasn't like, this is 344 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: gonna be a complete failure, and it was. Lovey Smith 345 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: hasn't been good in like a decade. Of course that 346 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: was gonna fail. Now you could argue they didn't have 347 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: many options. People didn't want their job. It was difficult 348 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: at this point in time if your owner is willing 349 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: to pay those two guys to go away, which he 350 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: clearly was. This is a fantastic job to start from scratch. 351 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: And Demiko came in with Kyle six years ago when 352 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: his coaching career started. Demico has not been coaching long 353 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: and I al would say this about Brandon Salley. He 354 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: hasn't been coaching long either. In the league. The differences 355 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: to Miko was a team captain, high level guy. When 356 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: I was with the Eagles. We traded for Damiko Ryan's 357 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: and he was coming off a torn achilles. It was 358 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: based on the character, his smarts, his leadership. It's elite. 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better. I think like Mike Vrabel like. 360 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: His personality is a little different than Mike, but same 361 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: type resume, complete badass. And Demiko who start came in 362 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: six years. Well, these last three or four, right, the 363 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Niners have had some success. They've won a lot of 364 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: playoff games. First two pretty ugly, kind of a joke. 365 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: They needed a lot of work. So he's seen what 366 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: it's like as an assistant coach on the outside, what 367 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: it's like to build up an organization. Now. The difference 368 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: is when Kyle got it's not like they had a 369 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: ton of picks. The Houston Texans have multiple first round 370 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: picks from another team with the with the Cleveland Browns, 371 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: and there's no guarantee that the Cleveland Browns are gonna 372 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: be good the next couple of years. So they clearly 373 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: have two good picks this year and next year could 374 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: be the same thing again. So you get the opportunity 375 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: to build your organization. They already got um a couple 376 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: of young pieces big couple off seasons within a couple 377 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: of years, you could be really good. I think there 378 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: are some parallels. Again, different personalities. If you watch them talk, 379 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: they come across a little different. I think Vrabels, you know, 380 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: probably a little rougher around the edges. Demiko is probably 381 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: a little more positive. But both of them you would 382 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: want in the trenches with you in a football game. Now, 383 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: Demko has to prove, like Mike he can do it 384 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: as a head coach. I saw him as an assistant, 385 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: and I've watched every Snapts have had since Kyle Shanahan's 386 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: been there. Robert Salo, who was a fantastic candidate he 387 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: was when he got the Jets s John to meet Demko, 388 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: is dramatically a better candidate. I don't even think it's close. 389 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: If you have the opportunity to hire Damiko, Ryan's or 390 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: Robert Salot, you would hire Demiko Ryan's and I think 391 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Robert Salo they can get the quarterback situation figured out. 392 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: It's proven to be pretty sout. I would say Demko 393 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: is on a different level as a candidate. Now. One 394 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: thing you have to wonder is like, because Serio's very 395 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: hands on, GM he's telling you when to go forward. 396 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: He's on the head it set. Like if I'm Demiko, 397 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you we're gonna need to take a 398 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: deep breath. There's gonna have to be some separation between 399 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: church and state, some separation between your gm NG and 400 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: my coaching. That's the healthiest way for us to operate. Now, 401 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: if I want you, if I need you, I know 402 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: I got you and I could have you on the 403 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: head set. But if I don't, if you're making me uncomfortable, 404 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: we can't do it. And I think Nick now is 405 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: going to have to look in the mirror a little 406 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: bit just because how big of an embarrassment the last 407 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: two years. Event now, it's not all of his fault. 408 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: No one would take the job two years ago, not 409 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: a soul, not a soul. I don't know all the 410 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: details with last year, But do I think he wanted 411 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: to hire Lovey Smith. I don't know if they have 412 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: many options last year. Demiko is obviously a fantastic option. 413 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: He's a fantastic young coach, and they have the opportunity 414 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: to kind of build this thing right. It's gonna take time, 415 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: but I think if they hit on some picks I'm 416 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: gonna clearly have to find a quarterback. Uh and we'll 417 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: see on the coaching staff who's gonna be his offensive coordinator, 418 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: which is a massive higher. They could be competitive here 419 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: in a couple of years, especially when you look, I 420 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: mean look at the Indianapolis Colts. They're interviewing seven hundred people. 421 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts are now in their third round kind 422 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: of finalists, but still working. It's like, what are we doing? 423 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: Do we have a plan of attack? It sure doesn't 424 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: feel like that. And that's one of the teams you 425 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: have to go against, as well as the Titans, which 426 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, what's their quarterback situation? So like have they peeked? Now? 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: They have a really good coach, So I wouldn't say 428 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: they're going away, but they have a specific issue. Who's 429 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: gonna play quarterback for them for the foreseeable future. It 430 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: ain't Malik Willis. He cannot throw Ryan Tannehill makes way 431 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: too much money that that that's coming to a close. 432 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: So the type or the the Jacks, they're not going away. 433 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Doug Peterson, you gotta find a quarterback, and 434 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: you've got enough FAMO. These next couple of years to 435 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: figure out your quarterback situation. Let's talk about the quarterbacks, 436 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: the two star ones, Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. Start with 437 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady officially retires. I think we believe him this time, 438 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: retires phone on a beach. He prerecorded it before going 439 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: to eighty for Brady or whatever. I saw the the 440 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: clip or the trailer or the commercial for that movie. 441 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Who That's a terrible idea. I mean, no one's gonna 442 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: watch this movie regardless. So Tom recorded this like a 443 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: couple of days ago or last week, like he's known. 444 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna retire for a while, which is the right move. 445 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: First and foremost, Tom Brady should retire. You're forty five 446 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: years old. You have nothing left to prove. Clearly this 447 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: year getting hit was not something you'd wanted to do. 448 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: No one blames you. You've got seven Super Bowls, You've 449 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: got all these records that most of them will never 450 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: get touched. You're the greatest winner in football history. You're, 451 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: to me, the best thing I can say about Tom Brady. 452 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: I think he's the greatest teammate in football history. And 453 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: I think his retirement not his video, but you can 454 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: tell he got emotional talking about his teammates and his 455 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: coaches and just the people he's leaving. But then if 456 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: you fall him on Instagram, which I would have maagine 457 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: millions of people do, when you scrolled through the pictures 458 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: on his instant stories, it summed up Tom Brady. Tom 459 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: Brady's entire career was about other people. It was about 460 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: the organization, It was about his teammates, it was about 461 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: his offensive line. It was about others making others feel 462 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: like they were part of him. And I think that, 463 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: besides like his height and his accuracy and his arm, 464 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: the thing that you couldn't quantify, Besides like his competitive nature, 465 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: in his desire to dedicate his life for the sport, 466 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: because at the highest level at quarterback, you have to 467 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: dedicate your life professionally. Doesn't mean you can't have a family, 468 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't you know, sleep seven hours, but 469 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: when you're awake working, it's all around football. And the reason, 470 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: instead of being done in his late thirties like most 471 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: guys are, he was able to get basically forty five 472 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: to keep playing. I mean even this year, which felt 473 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: like a disaster and nine and his team, now granted 474 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: they benefited from a bad division, did host a playoff 475 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: game was because he dedicated his life avocado ice cream. 476 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: The training he was not sucking around. Listen to someone 477 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: that battles with food. Discipline is hard for all of us, 478 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: and he mastered it like he was like a Navy 479 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: seal when it came to football. Most guys in the 480 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: NFL can't hold that together that long. So those pictures 481 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: to me, how great have you? Like? Have you ever 482 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: heard of former teammate New England Tampa, anyone that was 483 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: around him at a Pro Bowl, anyone that's met Tom 484 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: ever say anything negative about the guy. That's why we 485 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: hold such high standards with these quarterbacks. So why I 486 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: were so impressed with Mahomes and Burrow because like they 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of feel like that, They kind of feel like 488 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: the Peyton Brady just all in football. Football means everything 489 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: to them. Listen, if you tell me in a draft 490 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: uh meeting or in the combine that the defensive tackle 491 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: or the slot receiver he's got a bunch of other interests, 492 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: but he's a great player. I still draft him. If 493 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: you tell me the football player has like seven other 494 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: things going on in football's you know. I think it's 495 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: number one, but not sure. Like, I'm not interested because 496 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: the best players at that position are all in all 497 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: the time, and to me, Tom will just go down. 498 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: I just no one's ever winning seven Super Bowls. No 499 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: one's ever probably playing Bill forty five at quarterback. Uh. 500 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: You could have argued he could have stepped away last year, 501 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: but I get it he didn't want to. And you know, 502 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it takes some other things that go on in 503 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: your life to realize like it's kind of over. I 504 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: can transition in life. It's not easy when you literally 505 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: have dedicated half your life to doing this. I understand 506 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: why he wanted to not stop. Giselle can say I 507 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: wanted to stop you years ago. Well, Giselle, you wouldn't 508 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: have stopped being the number one supermodel and the person 509 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: on all the front of the magazines. If the magazines 510 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have picked other younger people over the years, you 511 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: would have done it too. You wouldn't have to stop, right. 512 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: The reason Tom didn't want to stop playing football is 513 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: because he could still play football. It's a unique job, right, 514 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: most jobs, I could podcast until I can't talk or 515 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: think anymore. Tom cannot play football till he's sixties. In theory, 516 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: he could have tried, but it's just it's it's it's 517 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: an industry unlike any others. Every single person listening to this, 518 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: if you're not a professional athlete, you get better at 519 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: your job as you go on. You make more money 520 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: as time goes right in your forties and your fifties 521 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and your sixties. Professional athletes usually ends mid thirties. Tom 522 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: is an outlier for his own profession. Obviously, at forty 523 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: five years old, I would say in most industries that's 524 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: considered very young. You wouldn't see many companies, big companies 525 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: naming forty five year olds as CEOs. But you know, 526 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: he's been a starting quarterback since he was twenty three 527 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: years old in the pros at least, so incredible career. 528 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: I think it was time. He was never gonna come 529 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: to the forty nine. You don't move to Florida for 530 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: three years and then move your family to Miami. He 531 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: was never gonna move to San Jose. I also think 532 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: he didn't make that much sense. Like part of what 533 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: makes Kyle really good at his job is his offense, 534 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: is his scheme. It works. You gotta have some movement 535 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and Tom can't move Tom. Tom has never 536 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: been a great athlete, but definitely at this point in time, 537 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: the boots, the waggles, it just was not gonna work. 538 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: And the other thing like, well he grew up at 539 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: ethics change. There are a lot of things that I 540 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: liked that fifteen sixteen loved, was obsessed with that. Now 541 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: at thirty eight years old, I think a little differently 542 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: about that. I still might hold some nostalgic feelings towards 543 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and have it deep, deep in, like in my soul, 544 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't change my life for I don't even 545 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: have kids yet. So this notion that, you know, just 546 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: because Tom grew up going to the catch game, he 547 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: was dropping, you know, I think that was a little 548 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: over blown. He's lived the majority of he's lived his 549 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: entire professional life and collegiate life on the Eastern Seaboard. 550 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: It's a different way of life. When he did own 551 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: a house on the West Coast, it was in Los Angeles. 552 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: Now you can say what you want about Los Angeles 553 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: and San Francisco. They both got some homeless issues. Downtown 554 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Gotta keep your head on swivel can be 555 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: robbed at any moment. There are some areas in l 556 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: a where you don't need to worry about that and 557 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: are way sweeter in the Bay that overlook the water. 558 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: And I grew up being an l A hater. A 559 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, went to l A country club, 560 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: drove around the Hollywood Hills, and I was like, I 561 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: get it, Like I understand it. We got nothing like 562 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: this up north. We just don't. So this notion that 563 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: he was gonna come back to I thought was somewhat manufactured. 564 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: He never said that right. His parents clearly still live 565 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, but a lot of people listening 566 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: your parents lived somewhere else, like you know, part of 567 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: being a grown up. Uh. And then on Aaron Rodgers, 568 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear the Packers and him are 569 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: it's over. And I'll never quite understand why they just 570 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: didn't pull the trigger last year. I felt like they 571 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: both kind of want to do, but they felt obligated 572 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: because he won the m v P again and he 573 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: was kind of gonna say even when Davante left, because 574 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: remember he knew Davante was leaving when he signed his contract. 575 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: It I think they both regret it, they especially after 576 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: missing the playoffs. They should have just broken ties. So 577 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: it makes it a little more complicated now. And here's 578 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: another problem is you know they say when you're publicly negotiating, 579 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: you never want to say anything, and rightfully so because 580 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: you give the other side leverage. But Rogers when you 581 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: constantly say, and he's been saying this for years about retirement, 582 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: about not playing football, if you're going to help your 583 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: team and just get to another team, If I'm the 584 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Jets and I'm gonna trade for you, if you told 585 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: me I want to play football until physically, like, I 586 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna play to Tom Brady, but 587 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: I definitely plan on plan for the next to three years. 588 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll give you everything I got. I would have no 589 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: hesitation of the Jets would be risky. Two first round 590 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: picks for Aaron Rodgers. Fuck, I do it, like it's 591 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: worth the risk just to be in the playoffs, just 592 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: to be good, to be playing on Sunday Night football, 593 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: to win eleven games back to back years and have 594 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: a chance. All I want is to have a chance, 595 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: because that's all you really get in football. Making it 596 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: the dance. You got a shot, even though some teams 597 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: clearly have better shots than others. But the Jets, you 598 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: had Aaron Rodgers with their talent around them, they could 599 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: be pretty damn good. They could be pretty damn good. 600 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: One reason the Packers lost in the playoffs a couple 601 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: of years of good Tampa. Like their defense wasn't great, 602 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: Their defense was not good. Now he was, you know, 603 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: part of the problem in the Niner game only one 604 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: touchdown unacceptable. But when he says I'm always he never 605 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: stopped talking about retirement, it doesn't make it a little complicated. 606 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: From a Jets perspective, I'd be like, yeah, no, one's 607 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna deny that he's not a sweet player and 608 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: that we could win a lot of games with them, 609 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: But like, hell, even my first round pick, Like, can 610 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: I give you two twos? What if he retires on 611 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: me in a year and I give you, you know, 612 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: all these picks? Now, can we do a deal that 613 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: is determined or you know, on based on future picks, 614 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: on his status, and how we do I've said over 615 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: and over I think that's the easiest way to set 616 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: up this trade is I trade you pick X, and 617 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, let's just say it's the second round pick 618 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: to acquire Aaron Rodgers and next year's pick is based 619 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: on did we have success, does he come back? Like 620 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: if we missed the playoffs and he retires, like, I 621 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: don't owe you anything. If I make the playoffs and 622 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: he returns, I owe you a second round pick. If 623 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: we make in the ANFC Championship game and he returns, 624 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: I owe you a first round pick because we have 625 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: no problem doing that, just like the Saints this year. 626 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: Excuse me the the Denver Broncos. Do you think they 627 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: have any reservations handing pick whatever? Twenty nine? I said 628 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: thirty I think on a previous podcast. But then once 629 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: you do the math, Miami got stripped of a pick, 630 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: so there's one less pick in the first round. Uh no, 631 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: you do that every day of the week and twice 632 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: on Sundays because most people picked at not even a 633 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: first round pick. Right. Most gms will tell you there's 634 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: only on a given draft board of a team. No 635 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: team has thirty one first round picks, right. Most teams, 636 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I think the harder greater teams usually have like fourteen. 637 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Some teams have nineteen, and it up depending on the class. 638 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: But now it doesn't mean one of those guys that 639 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: you upgraded won't be there when you pick. But no 640 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: team has thirty two first rounders on their draft board. 641 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: That's not how it exists. It's why a lot of 642 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: good teams over the years have traded back if possible, 643 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: because they don't want to give a first round contract 644 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: to a second round player. And I think with Aaron Rodgers, 645 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: if I get Aaron Rodgers who is determined and dialed 646 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: in and wants to play for a couple of years, 647 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: I would give two first rounders without hesitation. But given 648 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: the way that he talks, I think it complicates the deal. Now, 649 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: speaking of a guy that talks a lot, and I 650 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: know Cowboy fans have a love hate relationship with Jerry 651 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: because I don't think it's debatable that you know, Jerry 652 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: has been incredible for the NFL, has been incredible for 653 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: your brand, but he's also impacted your team over the 654 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: years with his stubborn nature with your coaches, and sometimes 655 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: his emotional decisions with signing players that it's limited your 656 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: ability to be better than you You know, you should 657 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: have been better, right like like the Zeke contract felt 658 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: like you know, they were emotionally obligated to it, even 659 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: though it was terrible the way they handled the that contract. 660 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: Clearly you would like a redo. They could have got 661 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: him from much cheaper if they had signed him, you know, earlier. 662 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: But the one thing great about Jerry and even Stephen, 663 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: but definitely Jerry, they talk, and they talk a lot. 664 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Most teams like their owner beside, you know, at the 665 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: end of the year press conference, or like Jeffrey Lourie 666 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: if you make the Super Bowl, never say a word 667 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: like if you just look, like, what's Clark Hunt's take 668 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: on the team week seven? It doesn't exist. He doesn't 669 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: talk Stan Cronky or Jed Yorker, the Alan Sisters like, 670 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: no one talks during the season except Jerry, and he 671 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: talks every single week, multiple times. He'll do press conference, 672 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: in the locker room, he'll do his Collin shows. He 673 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: loves it, and part of it's his ego. And in 674 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: fairness to him, he owns the team, he signs the 675 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: fucking checks. He can do whatever he wants now is 676 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: the healthiest thing to do, of course not, but he 677 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: doesn't and he ain't gonna stop. And him and Stephen 678 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: both kind of reiterated the same thing is they love 679 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore was their guy. They thought he 680 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: was a young star and They liked him a lot. 681 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: It's why when Mike was hired, they said Kellen Moore 682 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: staying on the staff, and Mike of course did it. 683 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: But one thing that came out over the last couple 684 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: of days is Mike McCarthy did not want Kellen Moore around. 685 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: They philosophically don't view the offense the same. Mike is 686 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: a West Coast offense guy, and Kellen is kind of 687 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: this hybrid. I don't even know what you would consider 688 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, but he didn't want to run Mike McCarthy's offense, 689 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy didn't want to run Kellen Moore's offense, 690 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: and they basically mixed the two of them together. And 691 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: if Mike McCarthy had his druthers a couple of years 692 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: ago when he was hired, Kellen Moore would not have 693 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: been on his staff and he definitely wouldn't have been 694 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: his offensive play call. And they admitted it. They literally 695 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: told you, even though we could all put the pieces 696 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: of the puzzle together, and it was kind of clear 697 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: that this is probably what's going on. You never hear 698 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: an owner say that, especially about his head coach, But 699 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 1: I've been saying this over and over. The reason they're 700 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: doing this. They're putting it all on Mike. Mike, you're 701 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: the head coach, you're now the play caller. You made 702 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: us fired. Now Kellen got another job. It's not like 703 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: he's struggling. I'm saying it. I'm gonna keep saying it. 704 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: If the Chargers fall up flat next year and their 705 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: offense is good, Kellen Moore will be the next coach 706 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: of the Chargers. He's young, he's cheap, he's good with quarterback. 707 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: If Justin Herbert has a good year and the offense 708 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: is explosive, but their defense lets him down and brand 709 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: Staley screws up and they either missed the playoffs by 710 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: a game or they get bounced in the first round, 711 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: Kellen Moore will be the next head coach of the Chargers. 712 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: You heard here first. But Mike McCarthy's gonna win, and 713 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: to meet they put a bulls on his back. I 714 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: think they like Mike McCarthy, but they're basically admitting is 715 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: we get We let him do whatever he wanted to do. 716 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: He could fire the coaches, he could name his own coaches, 717 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: he could take over play calling. We want to see 718 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: what he's got and it's hard because Jerry mentioned, like 719 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 1: what's the difference beween US and the Niners, Like we're 720 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: both coming up short. We had, Jerry, thet Ers have 721 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: made six conference championships in like the last twelve years. 722 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: You haven't made a conference championship in the forty Niners 723 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: have been to two Super Bowls in ten years. You 724 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: haven't gone to this, you know, the Final four. So, Jerry, 725 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: your team incredible business, the brand, the ability to get 726 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: eyeballs on a TV when you're in a big game, 727 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: second or none. But your team doesn't win big games. 728 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: It's just a fact. And so far, you know, McCarthy 729 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: lost the back to back years, and now I think 730 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna put the pressure on him. I don't think 731 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna win the Super Bowl next year. I don't 732 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: think he's got to get to the super Bowl. But 733 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: as you saw this year, a team in his division 734 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl with Nick Sirian. Can Mike McCarthy 735 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: get him to the conference championship game? He went to 736 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of them in Green Bay. It's not something 737 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: he's you know, it's not a foreign area to him. 738 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: But I think if he's not in the conference championship 739 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: and he loses again in the second round or the 740 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: first round, because it's gonna be in the playoffs. NFC stinks. 741 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: It's not very difficult. It's like the NBA. If you 742 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: don't make the the playoffs. Is the NBA team you're terrible, 743 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: six team teams of thirty teams making If you don't 744 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: make the playoffs. In the NFC, there's a chance next 745 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: year a f C you win, you know, tennant seven 746 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: and you miss. It's hard. It's very, very difficult. In 747 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: the NFC, zero excuses, none. You get ten wins, you're 748 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Cowboys proved like they've won twelve games 749 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And to me, I bet 750 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: against him this year, had egg on my face. I'm 751 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: not gonna bet him against next year because I'm but 752 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: a factor in the conference. And still they're way more 753 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: talented than the giants. I think the Cowboys will be 754 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: a playoff team. And then the pressure he better win 755 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: some games when all the when all the eyeballs are 756 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: on him, because if he doesn't, Bye Bye Mike. The 757 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: volume