1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: At least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally, he is Matt 4 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt the Uh. The playoffs right around the 5 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: corner here. We're now on Wednesday, and we're starting to 6 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: get some news trickling in regarding some of those playoff games. 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: To a Tago VLOA, uh, we'll not play this weekend. Yeah, 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: at this point, if you're the Dolphins, do you just say, yeah, 9 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: we're good. I mean, no, they have no chance to 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: win that game. They have no chance to win that game. 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like armstead is is doubtful. Again, it's not 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: even gonna be Bridgewater. I mean they've already announced Thompson 13 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: as a starter. Good for him. I mean he gets 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: a chance to play, and you know, he's flashed a 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: little but way. He was really bad against the Jets, 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: and I mean if he had any high moments, he's 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: come back to earth in a big way. I mean, 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: so this leads me to someone of a conversation there 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: too is. As we record this, we don't know if 20 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: Lamar is playing or not. Sure doesn't look good. I mean, 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm strongly leaning towards no tow and no Lamar. So 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: I'm not making the light of the hambling situation in 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: any way. But the Bengals, Bills, and Chiefs were all 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: eligible for the bye, and because or not entirely, but 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: because Bengals Bills got canceled, you know, the Bengals didn't 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: have a shot at the by or you know, so 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: in some ways, I'm not saying they're getting a buy 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: out of this, the Bills and Bengals, but you can't 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: ask for an easier playoff game then. I mean, they've 30 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: got to play. Their guys, have to go out on 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: the field and risk injury and all that stuff that 32 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna win those games, right, I mean, the Ravens 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe still have a shot. We're gonna have fun. We're 34 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna end up with three double digit games spreads. Yeah, yeah, 35 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: like especially the Miami one. What number would be high 36 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: enough for you to take the Dolphins. There's not one. 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean it would be twenty. Yeah. I mean, Buffalo 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: is not gonna take it easy. They scored eleven points 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: last week. I scored nine points really last week against 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: the Jets and Buffalo might be a better d in 41 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: their building, with more to play for, and they're gonna 42 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: score a bunch of points. They're score a bunch of points. 43 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: Like I can't even imagine the second half is close 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: to competitive, or you know, I mean, or Josh Allen 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: plays at all in the fourth quarter, or you know, 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's bad for viewing. Honestly, I 47 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 1: mean US fans that have no you know, horse in 48 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the race, so to speak, it's not gonna be a 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: good game. I saw, I think of a Sunday night, 50 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk sent out a couple of tweets saying that, 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, none of the a f C teams would 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: have liked to have seen the Steelers in the playoffs. 53 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: And then likewise, after the Troit won, like none of 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: the none of the nfcs would have wanted to see 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Detroit rolling into the playoffs. In this instance, I think 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: that's true. It's this is not sour grapes or anything 57 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: like that. Those two teams are better. We did the 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: power rankings yesterday, proof of that, right. Those two teams 59 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: are better than half the field, certainly better than three 60 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: or four in each division or in each conference. Without question, 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Detroit would have been a lot of fun to watch 62 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. It's an up 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: and coming team, as people have seen the Steelers in 64 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs a lot lately. No I believe that. I mean, 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 1: I definitely think a Lamar less Ravens team is worse 66 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: than this. No chance, Dolphins aren't even close. Dolphins might 67 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: not be in the top twenty teams in the league 68 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: as currently constructed, they might be. They're clear closer to 69 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: zero than there two than they are too. I would 70 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: put them behind the Raiders, the Patriots teams. I don't 71 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for it, you know what 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's unfortunate. It's not the NFL's fault, 73 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: it's nobody's fault. But it's a less product, it really is, 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: and I understand they that's that's why they played the season. 75 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Quarterback injury has been a bit of a theme this 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: year to that point. Matt, So, I went through and 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: and did the playoff records today, or I did the 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: records for all the teams are qualified for the playoffs 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: against other playoff teams this year. So Kansas City had 80 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: the most wins at six and two against other playoff teams. 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: But there were against The two were against the Bengals 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: and the Bills. Yeah, it's kind of a big deal. 83 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: The Eagles and forty Niners were both five and one 84 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: against other playoffs. Now, the forty Niners, you can look 85 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: at their schedule and say, they didn't play anything. I 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: mean even the teams that they the playoff teams that 87 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: they played were the Seahawks twice. Yeah, yeah, you know 88 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: they played they played the Dolphins without tah they I 89 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: mean they played some does yeah, and the one the 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: one game that they played against Yeah, the one game 91 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: that they played against one of the other top teams 92 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: was against Kansas City and they got smoked. Yeah. Um. 93 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: Then you look after that, you got the Bengals at 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: four and two, the Cowboys at four and three, the 95 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: Vikings and Bills are both three and two, the Jags 96 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: are three and three, and then no, but no, the 97 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: other of those other teams have a winning record against 98 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: other playoff teams. This guy like when people were killing 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: and steal. They haven't beaten anybody this year? Who is anybody? 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Who is anybody? First of all, So you look at 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: this and say, well, the playoff teams must be anybody, right, Well, 102 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers were one in five against playoff teams. The 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Ravens were two and five, the Dolphins were two and five, 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks were two and four. The Giants were two 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: and six against playoff teams. The Seahawks were two and four. 106 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Giants were that perfect team of lose the good teams 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: barely beat the good the bad teams year. Wow, what 108 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: did you say the Steelers were? Steelers were three and five, 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: three and five, Okay, I mean so, I don't know. 110 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not throwing any water on the exercise there, 111 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: but I do think the playoff teams this year are 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: almost in two tiers too. Well, there's no doubt, but 113 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: and that's how it always. But I'm just saying everybody 114 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: was killing the Steelers a lot of people where I 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: should say, well, they're not beating anybody down the stretch. 116 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: Who did? Who did? This is what everybody got fat on. 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: If you look at that forty schedule and they've won 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: eleven in a row and all stuff, Brock Purdy has 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: beating nobody, nobody. I don't know how many good Miami 120 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: wins are out there either, not many, not that they 121 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: had too early. They beat the they beat the Ravens, 122 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: beat the Ravens and Bills early, and that's they've been. 123 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: They didn't win a game against the playoff team after 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: that season. Been not impressive obviously or non two A games. Obviously, 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: night and day for them. Ravens fell off a cliff, 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: you know. But the other the other point of this 127 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: is that the Steelers played eight of those games. H 128 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: You know, the Eagles played six games against playoff team, 129 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: the Vikings played five games against playoff teams. Um, the 130 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Bills played five games against playoff teams. I mean, obviously 131 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: having two of them in your division adds up, but 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how you play them. I mean, right, 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: you still got to play a lot of playoff teams. 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: So I saw this today too, and I don't remember 135 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: the exact quote. It's from Football Outsiders. They were talking 136 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: about their end of year d v o A and 137 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: they were proud of themselves. They said, the teams we 138 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: expected to have the hardest schedules actually did And when 139 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: it was all said and done, I think the Steelers 140 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: end up having the third hardest schedule in the league. 141 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: Maybe what I knew it was the Jets. The Jets 142 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: and uh Commanders both played nine playoff teams each. Okay, 143 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: its those divisions. The Jets were two and seven in 144 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: those games. The Washington was three, five and one. That's impressive. Yeah, 145 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I mean. Two of the movies 146 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the Giants, and that they actually didn't win either one 147 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: of the Giants one. But it's just you know, so 148 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: when you look at the exercise, Yeah, schedule matters matters 149 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: huge in this league. It's not baseball where it all 150 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: adds out. Yeah, you're not playing everybody in the same 151 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: amount of times. Absolutely matters. And when you play them, 152 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean playing the Bills are playing the Dolphins this 153 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: upcoming week as opposed to the last time the Bills 154 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: faced them, is gonna be night and day. Yeah, without 155 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: a doubt. And so I just found that interesting. Also 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: went through you mentioned yesterday that the the theme that 157 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes was the oldest starting quarterback in the playoffs. The 158 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: average age of the starters and this includes now Skyler 159 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Thompson in the equation, the average age of the starters 160 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: in the NFC or the a f C was five 161 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: point two. Uh. For the NFC, um no, obviously Brady 162 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Brady and a little little obviously, but still it has 163 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: to be remarkably different. It's thirty point two, and I'm 164 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: sure if Jock Brady out of it's probably still is. 165 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: The amazing thing though, is if you look at playoff experience, 166 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: so Brady's you put him on his own He's on 167 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: his own island. Of course. Then the next four quarterbacks 168 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: on the list are all AFC guys in terms of 169 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: playing game. I bet my home is pretty high. Mahomes 170 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: has eleven. Wow, that's amazing. Josh Allen has six, Burrow 171 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: has four, jack Lamar Jackson has four. We don't even 172 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: know if he's started, but still it's worth talking about. 173 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: After after Brady, Dak Prescott with four career playoffs starts 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: is next up. Kirk Cousins has three. If you look 175 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: at guys who quarterbacks heading into this postseason who have 176 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: a winning record in the postseason, Holmes, Brady, Brady, Mahomes 177 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: and Burrow, that is it four of them last year 178 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: three and one. This is only you know, his only games. 179 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: So when you know, to me, doesn't have a he's 180 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: three and three, right, I mean when people so you 181 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: know the Steelers wasted Ben Roethlisberger's there are three. There 182 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,479 Speaker 1: are three quarterbacks right now in this year's plot postseason 183 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: who have winning records in the playoffs, and one of 184 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: them is Tom Brady, who's got thirty five wins. Like, 185 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: do you remember Ben's record in the playoffs? I think 186 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: he ended up like thirteen and ten or something like that. 187 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: Record that much, but right, I mean to have it. 188 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: We seem to have this conversation every year at this time, 189 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: but I think it does worth worth bringing up. And 190 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: it stems from even the regular season games, but even 191 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: more so in the playoffs because you're really constantly I mean, 192 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: teams are generally playing their best or you know, rarely 193 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: they limp in like the Dolphins, or you know where 194 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens are at. But five hundred in the playoffs 195 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: for a coach, a quarterback, an organization is remarkable. Does 196 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: anybody gonna say Josh Allen isn't could He's three and 197 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: three in his career and whether the Bills doing just 198 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: wasting all his years? You know that that coach get 199 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: rid of him, you know, I mean that's insane to me. 200 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, if Kenny Pickett has a five hundred career postseason, 201 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: signed me up for that. Now, if you say he's 202 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: he's okay, eight and eight in his career in the postseason. 203 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: By the time, it's also, that's fantastic. I won't take 204 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: one on one, no, you know, Kirk Cousins is thirty 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: four years old. He's played in three playoffs. He's actually 206 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: shared up and he's one and two and two. Yeah, 207 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: and so maybe he gets the two. Prescott's twenty nine. 208 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: He's played in four playoff games, and he's a better 209 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: player than Cousins, and he's one in three. Yeah, I mean, 210 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: playoff wins are so incredibly hard to come by. Lamar 211 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Jackson has played in four playoff games. He's one and three. 212 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: That he isn't a great record either. They haven't gone 213 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: super far with him. Are they wasting his career? You know? 214 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: Mahomes is what makes my homes even more impressive. What 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: was his record? He is actually I think eight and three. 216 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. He's never played on the road and never 217 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: played on the road except in the Super Bowl. And 218 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: I guess he won't. I mean it won't be well, 219 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: they'll they'll play somewhere on the road road. But it's 220 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's so difficult to do that in the 221 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: ages of these guys. I didn't realize Dak Prescott's already 222 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine. He'll turn he'll turn thirty July nine. I'm 223 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: almost certain he did not come out as a junior. No, 224 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: he did. He's an experienced guy. Yeah, it's not work 225 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: abot him a little. Kirk Cousins turns thirty five August nine. Wow, 226 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean usually you have like a Tannehill in the 227 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: equation and kind of that's the Cousins mold too. I 228 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: adn't realize Cousins was that old, but that makes sense. 229 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's the Russell Wilson uh Luck Griffin class. Yeah, 230 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's been a while, that's been a while. 231 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen turns twenty seven May one. My homes turns 232 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: September seventeen. So these guys are starting to get into 233 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: that age. How about this um Skyler Thompson is older 234 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: than twa Skylt Thompson is already twenty five. Kenny's probably 235 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: close to two of them too. Yeah, two is two. 236 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: It turns twenty five on March two, Kenny's birthdays, I 237 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: think in the spring as well. So yeah, I think 238 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: that happened to him. I don't know. I heard I 239 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: was listening to to some a press conference today out 240 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: of Miami, and they were asking, you know about you know, 241 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: his you know, are you worried about his playing future? 242 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: And you know, they're like, no, I was just worried 243 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: about him as as a person. Like that's the last 244 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: thing you want to hear, you know, Like, and that 245 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: can be true. I'm not discounting him as a person 246 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but like, boy, I was, I figured 247 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: by now would be us questionable to play in the playoff. 248 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: He just don't know. I think, you know, when Sydney, 249 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: I had people when Sydney Crosby was going through his 250 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: most six months and I had people coming to me 251 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: all the time. Can you believe Crosby's not playing? Like 252 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: it's it's a concussion. You don't know the severity of it. 253 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, you don't know how person is going to 254 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: react to those things. Everybody's different. Maybe you can't sleep 255 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: or handle light or whatever, mean, all these kinds of stuff. 256 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: But just looking at some of these, uh, you know, 257 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks in this hey, there's not a 258 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: lot of experience there. You're you're gonna have, I mean, 259 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: even the Docks and Cousins are remarkably inexperienced. You're gonna 260 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: have three quarters or three quarterbacks in each division or 261 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: each conference making their first career playoffs start. Jalen Hurts 262 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: has made one, yeah, and it wasn't good. Um. And 263 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: then you get the guys like you know, Cousins has 264 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: three starts, Burrow four, h Prescott four, um. Her Again 265 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: that at this point, I mean, Tom Brady has more 266 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: career in playoffs starts than could mind double what they have. 267 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: And he yeah, he excused everything. I mean, yeah, you 268 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: can't use him in the average obviously. That screwed up 269 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: your NFC average age thing too, I mean because he's insane. 270 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: But Mahomes is almost to that point too. He's getting 271 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: where he's skewing things so far in his favor and 272 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan esque type away. You know, but when you 273 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: start thinking about, you know, in the respect that he's 274 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: going to be twenty eight September seventeen, like we're probably 275 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: about halfway through Patrick mahomes career. But I was also 276 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: thinking maybe he isn't even his prime yet, or he's 277 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: in his prime years. He's probably in his prime years now. Yeah, Yeah, 278 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: that one, because we would have said that about Russell Wilson, 279 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: who's what thirty four now, but he's Russell Wilson really 280 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: started to go down. Two. So I just off top 281 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: of your head, how old do you think car is? 282 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: He's probably thirty one ish somewhere two thousand fourteen or 283 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen right in that neighborhood. Like, is a 284 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: guy like that he turns thirty thirty two? Were close? 285 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: I mean, is he passed his prime? Probably? You know, 286 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm probably starting to you're on the downward, You're you're 287 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: in the downward. You know, if you're not on, you're 288 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: on at least hole. Yeah, that's what I mean. And 289 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: he does come across as old to me because everybody, 290 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, again people look at Brady, Well, Brady still playing, 291 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: he's forty six years old. You can't measure people players 292 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: by that. And think about Peyton Manning at forty two. 293 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to see that? You will see I 294 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: think it's you will see a bunch of guys doing 295 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: that where Drew Brees at the end, Eli Rivers, Ryan 296 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Ben wasn't nearly as good the last two years. Of course, 297 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, some of these Hall of famers, 298 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: and we're talking about some of the best has ever 299 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: did it are playing forty ish, but the last few 300 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: years aren't great. I don't know if that's gonna be 301 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: a trendy. I mean, like Rogers might just hang it up. Yeah, 302 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think Stafford's gonna hang 303 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: it up. Yeah. I mean some of those guys like boy, 304 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I've had it. I'm good, you know, I don't I 305 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: saw the end of those guys career. I don't want 306 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Matt Bryan last year. I mean, that's that's no fun. Yeah. 307 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: So when you talk about, you know, getting Kenny Pickett 308 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: for a decade potentially, I mean that's a that's a 309 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: good long run. It's a huge run, right. You know 310 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: when Terry Bradshaw I think retired at thirty four, he 311 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: was done. Yeah, that makes you know, so this is 312 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: that's the norm. Tom Brady is not the norm. No, no, no, 313 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: I think everyone just assumes, oh ma, Homes will play 314 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: it with forty. I always heard that argument too. If 315 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Ben would have taken better care of himself, he could 316 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: have played like pretty No. It was the most sack 317 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: quarterback ever and played an extremely long time. Yeah, he 318 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: played longer than most. Most quarterbacks don't make it the 319 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: forty and longevity, right, So to expect that out of everybody, 320 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, if you're if you're the Vikings and 321 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: you see Kirk Cousin is going to turn thirty five 322 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: August nineteen, so you have to have a plan in place. 323 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: I've almost brought that up and we were going a 324 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: different direction. It's like, boy, I mean, it might be 325 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: time to draft one in the first round, right, I mean, 326 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: it only time to really step I mean it's like 327 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: a tanne Hill situation. I mean I think they're the 328 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: same year too, pretty close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a 329 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: little older too. But like, man, I mean, you don't 330 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: have a plan in place for those guys as yet. 331 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: And if if Eli and Ben and Breezes, but last 332 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: year's are bad, what do you think Tannehill and Cousins are, 333 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like it's getting any better? 334 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: Right there? You're talking about guys who's who's ceiling was 335 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: much higher. These aren't even be in the Hall of 336 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: Fame sniffing, you know, right, They're just decent, long term 337 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And that's the question that perhaps the Ravens 338 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: have to ask themselves now again. Lamar just turned twenty 339 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: six on January seven. What's Lamar thirty two gonna look like? 340 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: How many games he played over the last two years? Right? Right? 341 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: If he doesn't play this playoff game, I'm with you, 342 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that he I don't think he played 343 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: for the Ravens again. Yeah, and I'm going to predict 344 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: it right now. I don't think I'll played it this week, 345 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: and I don't think I'll play for him again. They 346 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: may tag him and trade him. Oh, I think they'll 347 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: get something for him. I mean, I don't think he's 348 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: just gonna walk out the door and say goodbye. But 349 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't fix your quarterback situation. I think will end 350 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: up being a panther or something. They'll get a bunch 351 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: of picks, and they'll change how they play on offense, 352 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: and they are going to be They're taking a step 353 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: backwards next years, is the point I would imagine. I mean, 354 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: unless because for them to play differently than they're playing now, 355 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: it takes two years of Yeah, they're gonna they have 356 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: to they have to acquire wide receivers and they have to, 357 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, change their offensive line. And maybe they started 358 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: to do that maybe they did with last year with 359 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: linder Bomb and maybe you know, I mean it could 360 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: they plug in Derek Carr and be a good football team, 361 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: Yes they could. I don't know if they could, but 362 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: it would be with those with those receivers. I don't 363 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: know if they don't know if they could. I mean 364 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: they're still gonna. I mean, I'm saying, you trade Lamar 365 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: for three first, you send one of those first for Car. 366 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's giving you three first for Roam. 367 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever it is, you get more for Lamar 368 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: than you cost. Like worst cases, a total opposite style 369 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: of playing. Worst case scenario for them is that they 370 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: put the high tender on Lamar. It would cost it 371 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: cost my two first round draft picks to sign him. Yeah, 372 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: than they do the work for you, and they do 373 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: the work for you. Worst case scenario is that nobody, 374 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: nobody does that, nobody even bites on that. And then 375 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: they're like and then now you okay, now you've just 376 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: paid up for him, and you're you know, you get 377 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: a plan next year and he's playing under a tag 378 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and the next time he gets a hangnail because right 379 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: now and I guarantee you if you gave, if you 380 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: gave hard truth, Sierum. He's questioning Lamar's toughness. Yeah, I 381 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: hesitate to say this on the air, but a lot 382 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: of people have said he's not exactly first one in 383 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: the building, last one out, especially with medical stuff, you know, 384 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: like he's not getting double treatments to get things better 385 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: and whatnot. I mean again, I can't confirm that I'm 386 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: not in the building, and I'm not saying he's not tough, 387 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: not smart, not into it, whatever is. Teammates love him. 388 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: He's a nightmare to play against, but he's heard a 389 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: lot his style of play scares you in terms. He 390 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: is a sports car yeah, right, and when something's wrong 391 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: on a sports car, they're in the shop a lot. Yeah. 392 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: And I think he throws the ball a lot better 393 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: than people realize, Like if Huntley could throw the ball 394 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: as well as Lamar and didn't have the same wheels. 395 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: Baltimore been a lot harder to play against the last 396 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. But you're not paying him fifty million 397 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: a year as an as a Drew Brees in the 398 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: pocket guy. You know you need the total package. And 399 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: it just reminds me Cam Newton, and frankly, I wonder 400 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: about Alan. Yeah, he really initiates a lot of contact. 401 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: He does a heck of a lot bigger than Lamar, 402 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: but it's still you know, he takes cam Newton did 403 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: the same thing and it shortened his career as well, tremendously. 404 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: And he turns twenty seven. Yeah, he's taking a lot 405 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: of beatings already. He's fighting some injuries as well, you know, 406 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: I mean it's sort of inevitable. Yeah, Joe Burrow just 407 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: turned twenty six. I didn't realize that he's not transferred 408 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Ohio State. This this is crazy with with some of 409 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: these transfers and things of this nature, and guys going 410 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: back and getting fifty years and gradas we're gonna see, 411 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: like draft times, we saw some twenty five year olds 412 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: in this past draft, guys who were older like I 413 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: remember I was writing a story about Chokes of Core 414 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: four and he had just turned twenty four and he's 415 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: in his fifth year in the league. He was nineteen. 416 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: The Steelers are good about that, I mean, Juju and 417 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these dudes that they got really young. 418 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: What an advantage if you are going to keep them 419 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: for the second contract, though, I mean you get like 420 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: an extra year or two that the other teams don't. 421 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: You're getting at least ten years out of those guys. Yeah, 422 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: I mean, assuming they hold up as a normal the 423 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: tires wear like most teams do. You know, like most 424 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: guys do. You started college when he was sixteen. Wow, 425 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: Like I might take a guy or full round higher 426 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: just based on his age. Yeah, because he's gonna grow, 427 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna, he's gonna he's got more. He's got more 428 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: better football ahead of him than a guy he's five 429 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: than I always used the b YU example too. Plus 430 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: you're watching his college tape. He's playing against dudes that 431 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: are older than him most of the time, and that's 432 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: a bigger deal the younger you are. If I play, 433 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: if I'm thirty one playing against twenty nine year old, okay, 434 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: but if I'm sixteen playing against an eighteen year old, 435 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a difference. Interesting conversation though. You can 436 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: now listen to Steelers Nation Radio anytime anywhere through your 437 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: smart speaker. Just say Alexa, play Steelers Nation Radio from 438 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: my heart and Alexea will take care of the rest. 439 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly you're listening 440 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 441 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: back with Moore right after this