1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast AM. Our guest 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: is a internationally recognized psychic medium and discussing artificial intelligence 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: some of the reoccurring figures. Erica Buzerhini joining us, and 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: I want to go back to Lobe for a minute, 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: because we mentioned AI in this figure that was popping 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: up there. So should we be cautious if we start 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: to see reoccurring figures and dangerous things popping up on AI? 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Should we stay away from it altogether, not to mess 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: with something that could be demonic. 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: I think we shouldn't, you know, put negative prompts to 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 3: see again, like Luiji board, It's like the curiosity killed 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: the cat. So yes, I would say avoid doing negative 14 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: prompts on the platforms to see if you can summon 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 3: these things. And it's not just Lobe though, you know, 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Being had its issue with the laughing and the differentferent things. 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: Alexis had laughing and demonic voices. Chat GPT has had this. 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 3: I mean, so I think, you know, I questioned the prompts, 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: what are these people prompting to receive? Or are these 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: just glitches in the system, like they kind of have said, 21 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: you know, it's kind of one of those things that 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: has it evolved. I think we're going to have more 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: cases of all of these different things happening that have 24 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 3: like creepy pasta vibes to them. 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: Creepy pasta is a term that the Internet uses, and 26 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: that maybe the first time it was used on this 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: program Coast to Coast AM. I'll have to check the archives, 28 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: but I don't think that word has ever been used here. 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: Let's go back to some of the things that it 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: is showing. And I've used AI before and I can't 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: recall ever getting answers like this. But I use AI 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: in a very limited way, meaning in my regular work, 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: I do use and we get press releases that are 34 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: sometimes images like JPEGs, and I'll put it into AI 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: and I'll say, can you transcribe this for me? It's 36 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: easier to see the text than it is trying to 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: read it from a picture. So my AI usage is 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: different than a regular person who's using it as a 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: psychologist or a friend or a companion that are telling 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 2: intimate details about themselves into this AI. Do you think 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: people should be careful what they tell AI about themselves, 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: even if it's innocent. Because this is what I always 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: fear when it comes to big technology companies is that 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: they'll save that and use that against you at some 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: point in the future. It won't be used for your 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: greater good, It'll be used for something bad. So should 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: we be cautious of the things we're inputting into it, 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: even if it's not dark things? 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: Most definitely. So, you know a lot of times people 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: are using you know, where we had kind of I'm 51 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: from the generation. I was born in seventy three, so 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: I'm from the generation where we were reading you know, 53 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 3: their generations that we're watching television, and you know, this 54 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: generation is in the cell phone. And then so with AI, 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 3: it's taken a lot of the desire need to research 56 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: or to read. And so I agree. A lot of 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: times people are getting emails and things like that. They're 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: just copying, saying, Hey, what should I do? What should 59 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: I say? Who am I? You know? And so they're 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: putting their personal information in this database, and that is 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: scary because at some point it's going to get hacked, 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: at some point it's going to be used. And if 63 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: this is not we'll say a paranormal occurrence, and there 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: is some other kind of you know, other kind of 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: monetary game that can happen later. Just like when we're 66 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 3: watching you know, Facebook, and we're talking about needing food 67 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, all these sponsored ads pop up. 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: You know, that might be something that has a negative 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: reverse on us as well. Through AI. 70 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: I want to go and look at some of the 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: connections between technology of the past. You mentioned the Ouiji 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: board and Hasbro even making an AI version of it, 73 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: But even going further back, it seems like certain spirits 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: are drawn to electricity and certain devices. Can you go 75 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: back to Morris code? I mean, is there manipulation in 76 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: certain sending electricity down a line for communication? How far 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: back do you think we can look at this and 78 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: say there may have been influences even one hundred years ago? 79 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean when we start thinking about Morris code, 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, some of the first communications, it 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: was the desire to have communication after death communications. And 82 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 3: then you go into like Frank Sumpter in the Frank 83 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Spots in the Spirit Box, the mail meter, and all 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: of these other things. The movie White Noise, which is 85 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: basically eb he worked you know we have used these 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 3: devices again in our parent I'm a paranormal investigator with 87 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: a team also, so we have used those things. Tesla, 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: all of these these people, Nikola, Tesla, all of these 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: people were using the Fox Sisters also. I mean that's 90 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: going way way back. They were trying to communicate with 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: the dead. Who they were communicating with, we don't know. 92 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: You know, some people thought they were communicating with aliens 93 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: from outer space. Some people thought they were communicating with 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: deceased people that were murdered. You know, it's it's it's 95 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: still I don't think the answer is going to be 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: really truly truly understood until we die. But I think 97 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: there is caution in that, and I do think there 98 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: has been evolution. Whoever would have thought that, you know, 99 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 3: Bail was going to create a telephone. He was trying 100 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 3: to create a spirit box, a spirit phone. And so 101 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: now we have you know, wireless, we have radio waves, 102 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: all of these different things upthing too with you. So 103 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: that might get some of these people off your back 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: about the your song, so they might put it on me. 105 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: I live in a place called Pensacola, Florida. We're the 106 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: first settlement of the United States. Fifteen to fifty nine. 107 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: Is only started and then they were say in Augustine, 108 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: but you know, the Native Americans were here, the Spanish came, 109 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: and then you know, we were colonized basically. So I 110 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: think it's important that you did do that to keep 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: the tradition. So I just want to put my two 112 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: sis in. I was dancing to it because I love 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: the beat. I don't understanding anything he's saying, but I 114 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: think it's very important to be especially for this audience, 115 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 3: to be open minded. 116 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, you are the psychic diva, so I feel like 117 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: you have to throw a little controversy in there once 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: in a while to keep things going, keep things exciting. 119 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: I think that's the diva. Wait, by the way, where 120 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: are the psychic diva? Where did that come from? 121 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: So if you were to come to my house like 122 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: a year ago, you would have thought you were in 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: a museum. I collected gold, antique mirrors. I think I 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: thought I was the house of Prasad. But that's another 125 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: day and another And I had a lot of mirrors, 126 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: so a lot of people would say when they came 127 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: and visited my house, this looks like a diva mansion. 128 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: My personality is definitely not diva. I'm more of a 129 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: down home country girl. But uh, it just kind of stucked. 130 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 3: So I trademarked that and branded it as a T 131 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: shirt business. And so it's the inner psychic, but the 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: inner diva, you know, but not so the attitude. 133 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: Going back by the way you're talking about Atisan and 134 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: trying to reach spirits and kind of the origin for 135 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: the telephone. It's very fascinating some of the different inventions 136 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: that may have failed but may have led to something else. 137 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: And I'm here in Detroit. We have Henry Ford Museum 138 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: Greenfield Village, and we have Edison's workshop, so you can 139 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 2: go and actually examine his workshop as he was working 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: on these things. It's really quite fascinating to see these 141 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: things with your own eyes what some of these different 142 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: devices look like. As a psychic diva. And I think 143 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: about when you're trying to get into the mindset you're 144 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: trying to communicate with something or someone, do they ever 145 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: try to communicate with you? Meaning, let's say, kind of 146 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: like Edison, did the lights flicker and you know, someone's 147 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: trying to reach me. Kind of like for us, when 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 2: we want to communicate with someone, we sent an email 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 2: or we sent a text message. How do they try 150 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: to communicate with you? 151 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:55,239 Speaker 3: If they do so, I am a walking communication telephone 152 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: to the day that I think ever since I was 153 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: a little girl. It does run in the family. But 154 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 3: I started out really having very vivid dreams. I could 155 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: see the deceased people in front of me in the air, 156 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: almost like movies in real time, almost like I had 157 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: tapped into a different dimension. But my strongest ability would 158 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: be Claire audience, meaning I hear not almost like a voice. 159 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: I I'm hearing it a voice like schizophrenia, but I 160 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 3: can hear almost like snappets or conversation. When I ask questions, 161 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: I usually get responses. But how they initially interact with 162 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 3: me is cold chills. Usually I'll walk someplace, get super 163 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: super cold, have goose bumps, and then I tap in 164 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: or I choose to or not ask who and what 165 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: and why, and almost a reporter. I call it the 166 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: psychic reporter. If I do want to do that, or 167 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 3: I don't do it, it's it's definitely control of on 168 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: my end. 169 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 2: How can we guess or how can we, like, let's say, 170 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: someone that doesn't have this sort of antenna on them 171 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: walking around decipher what is, let's say, a message and 172 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: what is not. What is just coincidence, what is just natural? 173 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: How can we, without knowing the difference, be able to 174 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: pick up on supernatural things? 175 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: So, you know, most people have dreams every night. So 176 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: do you have vivid dreams that are unbelievably realistic and clear? 177 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 3: Where someone visits you that's dead that you hadn't thought 178 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 3: about or seen in a long time. The flickering of lights, 179 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: you know, if there's nothing wrong with your house electricity 180 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 3: and you're talking about somebody and the lights flicker, you know. 181 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm with a team. We do investigations. Batteries get drained. 182 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of things. A lot of times people 183 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: will be thinking, speaking of radio and music. They might 184 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: be on the radio or I'm sorry, they might be 185 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 3: listening to the radio and all of a sudden, the 186 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: song comes on. I have things like the deja vu 187 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: that happens to me or their song, and I think 188 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: a lot of times birds and animal sometimes signs two 189 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: repeating numbers. Often I mentioned temperature and cold spots. I 190 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: usually get freezing cold when spirits are around me. But 191 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: those are some of the things that other people can 192 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: look for And I wanted to ask you because I 193 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: know you're kind of a little skeptical and I respect that. 194 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: Have you ever had anything that happened to you that 195 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 3: was in the realm of those things that were kind 196 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: of unexplainable? 197 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: You know, yes, and sometimes you notice those things and 198 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: you wonder, okay, what was that? And here's what I do. 199 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: Let's say I noticed something out of the ordinary, or 200 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: maybe things kind of happen on a pattern, and then 201 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: that pattern doesn't happen. You'll I find myself staring at it, 202 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: waiting for confirmation. I need to look and I need 203 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: to see, and I need to really hyper focus on 204 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: this one thing to see if it happens again. And 205 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: when it doesn't happen again, I say, well, there's no 206 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: way of telling, right, You just kind of take a 207 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: mental note that something strange happened, and that was it. 208 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: It was a blip in time. My memory's not great, 209 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: meaning if it happens, I'll forget about it. But if 210 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: it happens again, I'll recall it. I'll say, oh, I 211 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: remember that happened before. That doesn't happen. The recall doesn't happen. 212 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: A lot where I see things happening more than once, 213 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: so I normally write it off. But you do see things, 214 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: and when you pay attention, you notice things out of 215 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: the ordinary. You just don't know what to do with it. 216 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: So that's fair. And I think what I've told people too, 217 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 3: is that we can get so programmed. You know, I've 218 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 3: had family members that I've met, and you know, one 219 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: specific one, Lee's mom. She sees rainbows, and if you 220 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: get pre programmed looking for that rainbow every time, you 221 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: might miss the feather or the pennies on the floor 222 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: from heaven. So I think it's very important to make 223 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: a mental note of those things, but not look for 224 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: the same thing every time. But I think it's fair 225 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: and awesome that you're at least looking and acknowledging. And 226 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: I think that they'll send you more signs and not 227 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: just the same one. I think that's pretty Yeah. 228 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: The dream aspect of it's fascinating because sometimes you have 229 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: these very vivid dreams. And I don't keep a notepad 230 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 2: by my bedside, but I should, because everyone says you 231 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: should if you have those type of dreams. I can't 232 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: say that I've only once in my life. I can 233 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: recall where I've had a dream that's come true. And 234 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: here's what happened to me. When I was younger. I 235 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: was probably I don't know, before I was a teenager. 236 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: When I was young, I woke up and I had 237 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: a dream and I told my parents about it. I said, 238 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: Grandma in my dream died. She didn't wake up, She 239 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: fell asleep and didn't wake up, and I was crying 240 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: and I was really distressed by it. Well, as it 241 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: turns out, my parents are like, that's strange for you 242 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: to say that. They called my grandma, who said, oh, 243 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: there's this beeping going on. I don't know what this 244 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: is at the house. Dad goes over, it's the carbon 245 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: monoxide detector going off. She didn't know what it was. 246 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 2: So that same night I had the dream of my 247 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: grandma dying. I tell my parents, and it may have 248 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: changed the course because if she wouldn't have called, or 249 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: my parents wouldn't have called, that could have killed her. 250 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: So I've had something like that happen once in my 251 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: life where I look back at it and say, that 252 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like a coincidence. 253 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really cool one. I just want to 254 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: also mention too that in this day and age, Most 255 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: people do not have, you know, a notebook to record 256 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: something like that, but we do have our cell phone. 257 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 3: And if you have a voice memo on your iPhone, 258 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: I recommend people do that. Just make a little voice memo. 259 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Wake up, grab your phone, make a little voice memo 260 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: and say, hey, I just dreamed about Grandma blah blah 261 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then you can go back and 262 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: listen to that and see the validity or lack of 263 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 3: validity in it. It's just it's easier to do. I 264 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: think the voice memos in the future. 265 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you're I mean, I'm married. My wife 266 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: would not like it if I woke up and started 267 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: recording something on my phone, like I'm doing a radio 268 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: program in the middle of the night next to her 269 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: in bed. I don't know if that would really go well. 270 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: So the problem I run into is I just in 271 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: your sleepiness. It's very much deceptive because you think you 272 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: know what I'll remember. I'm just too tired. I don't 273 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: want to do it. And you the laziness side of it. 274 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: You're just tired, you're exhausted. You don't think to always 275 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: do it. But the people that do it, they do 276 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: record some pretty amazing things. Well, what about other coincidences 277 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: and things that you see in real life, Like, for example, 278 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: in the movie The Matrix, there's a scene where they're 279 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: going through a building and he sees a cat twice 280 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: and he says, ooh, deja vu, And they say deja vu. 281 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: That means there's a glitch. Deja vu. Feelings like that 282 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: when you notice black cats walking by twice. Are those 283 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: signs too? 284 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: I think what a lot of people have deja vu 285 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 3: is the view of looking at someone like they might 286 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: be in in a whole crowd of people and they'll 287 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: look at someone and they'll say, WHOA. It's almost like 288 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: I'm looking at my deceased loved ones, almost like their 289 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: face got transcribed. Or they'll be in a place and 290 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: they'll say, I've not been here before, but it feels 291 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: so familiar. Are there are other times too, a deja 292 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: vu where you know they could be doing something and 293 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: they feel like they've dreamed it. You know, I recall 294 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: having a dream when I was a little girl, and 295 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: I've talked about this before. Driving over a bridge after 296 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: a hurricane and having a deja vous moment that I 297 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: was looking at the same damage to the bridge that 298 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 3: I looked at when I was probably seven years old 299 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: in a dream. So it was like a deja vous moment, 300 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 3: and I think it's important that when you have those 301 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, kind of call attention to it recorded 302 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: as a deja vu moment. 303 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Listen to More to Coast Am every weeknight at one 304 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: a m. Eastern and go to coast to coastam dot 305 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: com for more