1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, I'm Kayleie. Sure and this is too much 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: to say asking question, so turn it out to you. 3 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: So this week was a really big one for Song 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: Suffer Jets. I was able to play the seventh anniversary show, 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: which is crazy that it's been going on for seven years. 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: That makes Song Suffer Jets officially my longest relationships. Big deal, 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Big deal. Now, I've talked about it a little bit 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: on the show, but I know that some of you 9 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: might not know what Song Suffer Jets is, and that's okay. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to explain it to you. Song su for 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Jets is a collective of women in Nashville who are 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: all singer songwriters, all play their own instruments, all sing 13 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: their own songs they wrote, and we have a weekly 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: show at the Listening Room Cafe. If you guys ever 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: visit Nashville, you have to go. If you go on 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: a Monday, you'll see us. If you go any night, 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: you'll see incredible music. Hey, songs all the good ship 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: that makes Nashville what it is. But Monday nights are 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: very special and that's when we play. We started it 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: after noticing that there was this massive, massive disparity with 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: women in country And this was seven and a half 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: years ago when this idea came up. My manager, Todd 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: is the one who started it, and uh he asked 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: me to be a part of it, and then as 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: we worked together more and more, we you know, ended 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: up working really well together, and that's when he started 27 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: managing me. So he's been managing me for about five 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: or six years, and I've known him for you know, 29 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: the full seven and a half that I've been in Nashville, which, wow, 30 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: we're coming up on eight years here really really quickly, 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: which is crazy. But at the time that we started it, 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: women were making up less than ten percent of the 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: country radio airplay charts, and it was really disheartening. And 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: to be completely honest, like I grew up in the 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, everything from Lime Wire and Napster to Spotify 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: generation and where we just listened to what we wanted to. 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: We weren't you know, constricted to whatever the radio is playing. 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how our parents grew up. Like 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: unless you were listening to it on a record, you 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: couldn't just go make a playlist, like mixtapes started happening, 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: but not when like my parents were in high school, 42 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: so you listen to what was on the radio. And 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: some people are still like that, especially people who aren't 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, millennials and whatnot, and like you just listen 45 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: to the radio and that's where you find your new music. 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: So when the radio isn't playing women and that's where 47 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: you discover your music, that sucks. So I didn't know 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: that there was a problem because I was doing the 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: opposite where I was making playlists, and so to me 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: back in you know, twenty thirteen, when we started this 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: and started talking about it, it was like I was like, wait, really, 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: there's a problem, because I remember my playlists were all 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: the band Perry and Carrie Underwood and Miranda Lambert and 54 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and new artists like Kelly Bannon um new 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: artists at the time, and I like, I loved her 56 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: and actually, to be honest to my my radio station 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: in my hometown played her all the time. So I 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't know that Kelly Bannon didn't have like a number 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: one song because she was really popular in my hometown 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: and elsewhere. I mean, she's just incredible and her new 61 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: music has been amazing. She's hosting a show on Apple Radio. 62 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: She's just absolutely killing it, But anyways, I digress, just 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: a big Kelly Bannon stand over here. So I just 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: didn't know. And so when Todd showed me the facts 65 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: and figures surrounding like women being played on radio and 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: women getting record deals and publishing deals and whatnot, I 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: was just like totally dumbfounded because I just didn't know. 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: And as soon as I knew, I knew, and I 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: couldn't then see it. And then I kind of realized, 70 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, God, I play a lot 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: of these rounds with a bunch of browe dudes singing 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: about trucks and stuff. And I was writing a lot 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: of party songs at that point too, because you know, 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: that was what was on the radio, and I was 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: trying to get cuts and stuff. And I remember so 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: frequently having guys be like, oh, you're not like the 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: other girls. You don't just a goal sound the same, 78 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: like you're here and like you're singing like cool songs 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. And I took it as a compliment. And 80 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: there's so many times like whereas women, we get compliments 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: that are two for when they're an insult to another 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: woman or other women in general, and seeing like you're 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: not like the other girls like, that's actually kind of 84 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: a shitty thing to say. And I hate when people 85 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: are like, you know, I play around with a bunch 86 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: of different people and they come up and they're like, 87 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, we liked you better than everybody else. 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't want to say thank you, 89 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: you know. But anyways, so we wanted to kind of 90 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: eliminate that at song Suffer Jets and have a place 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: where we were disproving that all girls sounded the same 92 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: and we're only singing sad songs and couldn't be on 93 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: the radio and what all they wanted to say. I 94 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: mean a big, big part of the you know, people 95 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: making excuses for the climate for women were people in 96 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: radio saying things like, well, you know, if women were 97 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: writing better songs, blah blah blah blah, and it's like, 98 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean, better than you left Me by Mickey Guyton 99 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: should have been a smash and it's just so tragic 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and just shows you, like what women are up against, 101 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: and specifically, you know, black women in black artists, because 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: that's just a whole different thing. And we had Britney 103 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Spencer play the show this past Monday, and I'm a 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: huge fan of her. If you guys haven't listened to 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: her music, she's amazing and she's been so outspoken about 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: what it's like to not just be a woman in country, 107 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: but to be a black woman in country, and she's just, 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: you know, just amazing. I think that, you know, it takes, 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: it takes people being loud and being willing to you know, 110 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to say complain because that trivializes it, 111 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: but like people to be honest about what their experiences 112 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: and what they're facing and and what is being said 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: to them about like you know, why they can't make 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: it and whatnot, and and it takes it takes people 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: being honest about that. And so I've always tried to 116 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: take that perspective when it comes to being a woman 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: in country. But I just want to give Mickey and 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Brittany a huge, huge shout out for the you know, 119 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: what they've taken on by being a megaphone for other 120 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: girls who might not have a platform or you know, 121 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: might be too afraid too, and it's just, I don't know, 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: it's just really inspiring. And I just really really love Brittany. 123 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: So check out her music. She's incredible and the show 124 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, it was so full, 125 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: warm and these. My only complaint was that I didn't 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: get to play around with my best friend Candy Carpenter 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: because we had to host the two separate rounds. So 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's all right, I'm fine. We played together 129 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: like all the time, literally, so it was it was cool. 130 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: It was a really really special night and just getting 131 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: to celebrate that. We gave an award to Ashton McBride 132 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: and she's a badass. And then Tenniel Arts, who is 133 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: in the top ten right now I think a country 134 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: radio and she's been playing songs for jets for like 135 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: I want to say, like four years now, maybe longer, 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: and so to see her go from like, you know, 137 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: a new girl in town with you know, just writing 138 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: songs and trying to figure out who she is to 139 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: having a top ten and climbing is just, oh my god, 140 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: it's so incredible. So it was just a really special night. 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: But we basically just wanted to give girls a place 142 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: to play, a place where we wouldn't be told, oh, 143 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: you're not like the other girls. You know. It just 144 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: sings sad songs, like girls don't just sing sad songs. 145 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Holy shit, it's it's just so disappointing. And I think 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: that there was like god, I mean, it was a 147 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: different time then, like people weren't talking about it nearly 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: as much. And now you have you know, Bobby Um 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: shout out to Bobby. We we love him. Thank you 150 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: for giving me this podcast. Uh, you're the best. But 151 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: he you know, started the Women of Country Show. Uh 152 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: the I heart Women of Country and that's really really 153 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: really special and has given a lot of girls a 154 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: chance to be on the radio when we might not otherwise. 155 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: That was one of the first times I think I 156 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: heard my song on terrestrial radio, if not the first time. 157 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: Terrestrial is like FM, AM, etcetera. And then satellite radio 158 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: it is x M. But it was big. There was, 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, I mean because I think that's played on 160 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: like a hundred and twenty different stations. So when a 161 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: song is played on the Women of Country Show, it's 162 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: like it's played a lot of different places, and it's 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: really very cool. But you know, it just wasn't quite 164 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: at the forefront. And then it became more and more 165 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: of a conversation over the years with different situations like 166 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Tomato Gate, which is just kind of a long, exhausting story, 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: but google Tomato Gate and Neil c it's some this 168 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: guy said some really dumb ship people saying dumb ship man. 169 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: It just never stops. But anyways, it was a huge 170 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: turning point because it really called attention to the issue 171 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: and really presented an opportunity for a conversation. I've had 172 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: so many fun times that Songs suffered us over the years, 173 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: and then also so many embarrassing times. I mean, I 174 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: think some of the most special ones to begin with, 175 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: where our first few shows. I think our first ever 176 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: special guests. So the second show at Song Suffer Jets, 177 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: Kelsey Valerini came and played her brand new song Loved 178 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: Me Like You Mean It, which was about to be 179 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: sent to radio, and I just loved her from the 180 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: very beginning. I thought she was so so sweet, and 181 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: that was my first time meeting her, and that was 182 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like before you know, she really blew up and became 183 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: the superstar she is now. We also had um Carly 184 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Pierce play a couple of shows later Emily Wise band. 185 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: They're both killing it right now. Emily has a Grammy 186 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: that's huge, and it's just really really cool to see 187 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: the girls kind of blossom, and you know, we've had 188 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: some really cool moments playing at c m A Fest. 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: I can't believe we're missing a second c m A 190 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Fest this year. That depresses me so much. But I 191 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: miss seeing people. But um, we used to play these 192 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: really really big shows and we will get back to 193 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: it soon. And I have like really fun special guests. 194 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: So I got to sing with Sarah Evans and Jesse 195 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: James Decker and got to sing Strawberry Wine with Dina Carter. 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: That was a huge holy Ship moment. Um. Yeah, it's 197 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: just been crazy. I've also just met so many friends 198 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: through there, Like I met Hayley Steele and Lena Stone 199 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: three songs of her jets and I wrote Fight Like 200 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: a Girl with them, which obviously ended up changing my life. 201 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: And then I met my best friend Candy Carpenter three 202 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: songs of her jets and literally it was so funny, 203 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: like we played the show together and she came up 204 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: to me afterwards. I was like, do you want to 205 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: be friends? And I was like, yeah, for sure. And 206 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: then now we have matching tattoos. So that's just how 207 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: it goes. Sometimes you just got to ask a person 208 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: if they want to be your friend. You know, it's 209 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: that easy. It's that easy. I mean, it's just been 210 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: amazing to have this community of girls who relate to 211 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: the problems I have. Like it's so weird to be 212 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: an artist because like sometimes the things I need to 213 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: vent and complain about make me feel like an asshole 214 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, well, like I have to tour 215 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: and learn roun. Like, it's not that I'm complaining about touring. 216 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: It's that I'm complaining about the fact that I haven't 217 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: slept in three weeks. But I don't really you know. 218 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe my my parents wouldn't really get it. 219 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: They'd be like, well, isn't it fun. I'm like, well, yeah, 220 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: it's fun. But I also like I haven't slept or 221 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: eaten something that didn't come from a gas station in 222 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: two weeks and I slept in a van last night, 223 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: like and so being able to talk to your friends 224 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: who've been through that, like that's really amazing. And also 225 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: just like advice, Like I really respect Candy's advice, and 226 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: you know she's because she's been there through a lot 227 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: of that stuff, and it's just invaluable to have people 228 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: understand you. And I've had so many people be like, 229 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: how are you friends with other female artists that aren't 230 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: you competitive? And I'm like no, and truthfully, like I'm 231 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: not really that competitive of a person. I'm not always um, 232 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a pushover at all. Like I I do 233 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: not put up with people being shitty to me, and 234 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: that's where I can be like my most intense and 235 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: my most combative. But I'm not competitive at all. Like 236 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: I even like little stuff like board games, like I 237 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: just don't care. I just want to have fun, you know. 238 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: But if somebody's like cheating, I'm gonna be like fuck you, 239 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, Like that's kind of my My style of 240 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: competition is just being like, if you're not playing fair, 241 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to call you out. But when it comes 242 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: to other artists, I just want to learn from people. 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: I mean, playing with Candy, like her vocals are absolutely insane, 244 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: and being friends with her has made me so much 245 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: more confident in my voice. And you can totally tell 246 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: listening to recordings and live videos over the past few years, 247 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: like how much my voice has grown and how much 248 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: more comfortable I've gotten with it. And I used to 249 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: think that I didn't have a very good voice. And 250 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I've been writing songs since I was six, and I 251 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: was very you know, I was very used to hearing 252 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: people compliment me on my songwriting, and that's my number 253 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: one thing anyway, So I never was like hurt by it, 254 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: but I just thinkly remember the first time someone commented 255 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: on YouTube that they liked my voice, and I was like, 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: are you sure, like really, oh my god, thank you, 257 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: And that was like the first time anyone had said that. 258 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: So I kind of always had this thing in the 259 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: back of my head that was like, you're not a 260 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: great singer. And I used to struggle with it live 261 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: as far as like breath control, because that's the hardest part, 262 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: like running around stage the way I want to and 263 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: still being able to breathe. So I practiced a lot 264 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: of yelling songs on the treadmill like while and like 265 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: trying to like keep my breath under control. And you know, 266 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: I took a couple of vocal lessons, started doing warm up, 267 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: started just pushing myself. But how all had to do 268 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: with Candy and just you know, seeing how great of 269 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: a vocalist she is and have her be like, no, 270 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: your voice is really great, you can do that. You're 271 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: just scared too, and yeah, that was that was a 272 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: really big moment. I also had this guy I'm friends 273 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: with and and write with named Lindsey Jackson. He literally 274 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: called me out one time over Instagram DM and it 275 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: was like such a huge moment for me. But he said, hey, 276 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: so I've been thinking about what you said in the 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: studio a couple of weeks ago, and you said he 278 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: had a songwriter voice, and he's like, and you don't. 279 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: He's like, the only thing holding you back is that 280 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: you don't think you can do it. And so when 281 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: you're in front of the microphone thinking about how you 282 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: can't hit that note, you're not going to. But if 283 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: you just think you can, you will, and like it 284 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: seems so simple, but it really is all in your head. 285 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: And as soon as he said that, and Candy said 286 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: the same thing, like my voice changed and I'm so 287 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: much more confident in it now. And that's like the 288 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: definition of supporting each other. And I think that, you know, 289 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: I've helped Candy in different ways too, and you know 290 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: she respects my opinion and that's really really nice. It's 291 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: really nice to have people care about what you think. 292 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Some of the funniest moments that have happened at songs 293 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: that for jets. Okay, one time I was playing the 294 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: show and I was wearing extensions as country singers do 295 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, higher the hair, the closer to God, and 296 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: I have them in and I was playing this like 297 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: very serious song. It was one of my older songs 298 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: called Roses Are Red and it's like a very heartbreaking 299 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: ballad and I'm playing it and I'm all into it 300 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: and like just totally committed to the emotions, and I like, 301 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: see my extension and it looks longer than the other ones, 302 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like looking down at my hands while I 303 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: play guitar. And then I catch it and I'm like, 304 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: oh no, something bad is happening. And it just slowly, 305 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: slowly slides down and just falls out and it's on 306 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: my lap. And so I have this like furry thing 307 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: on my lap that looks like a small creature and 308 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm playing this song. I'm like, oh, nobody noticed, And 309 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: then like I know that I'm gonna have to move 310 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: my guitar. I can't just keep it on my lap 311 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: the whole time. It'll look like I'm growing hair out 312 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: of my knee. You know that the way it was 313 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: it had fallen, and so I had to be like, hey, guys, um, 314 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: thank you, I'm glad you like that last song. I've 315 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: been lying to you. This is not my hair, it's 316 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: hair I purchased from someone else, and um, it just 317 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: fell out and I held it up in front of 318 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: the whole crowd and it was just so funny. And 319 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: that was a big lesson too, and like being comfortable 320 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: with making fun of yourself because that created such a 321 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: funny moment. It was really memorable and like didn't suck 322 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: as much as it could have if I'd been, you know, 323 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: all insecure about it. One of the most traumatizing moments 324 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: of Song sept for Jets was probably when oh my god, Okay, So, 325 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: as I've talked about and several times, um, my ex 326 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: boyfriend had a penchant for sleeping with my friends after 327 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: we broke up. Like it was like a thing he 328 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: did a lot, and it was just weird. Flex Um. Anyways, 329 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: there was a girl that I had figured out had 330 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: seen him, and it was so weird because she came 331 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: up to me at a Song Stuff for Jets show 332 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: that we played and was like, hey, like I just 333 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: want to you know, like I did a photo shoot 334 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: with your your ex the other day, and I didn't 335 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: know that. He was like, that was your ex boyfriend. 336 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's so weird because you totally met him 337 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: with me. But like, okay, girl, whatever, and I just 338 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: didn't really think anything of it because I was like, 339 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: why would somebody be dishonest with you? And she was like, 340 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: but like, I won't do it again, and I was like, okay, cool, 341 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like do whatever you want, Like I totally 342 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: get it. This was like literally within like maybe three 343 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: weeks of us breaking up, and he was very busy 344 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: around that time. I don't know if all these girls 345 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: knew that they were overlapping. And I'm doing the math 346 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like Jesus Christ. Anyways, um, so she says, 347 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: and then we play songs of jets show. A couple 348 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: of weeks later, as I'm figuring out that she had 349 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: ended up like having a thing with him, having feelings 350 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: for him and they were mutual whatever. I tried to 351 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: like not really know too much because it just made 352 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: me uncomfortable. And I had just found out like earlier 353 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: in the day and then had to play the show 354 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: with her and was playing like all these really sad 355 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: breakup songs about him, and like, I don't know if 356 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: two people have ever been more uncomfortable in our lives. 357 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: And like I wasn't even like mad at that point. 358 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: I was really just kind of sad about it. And 359 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: that's worse. Like when I get mad, it's like, okay, 360 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: when I just get sad and disappointed, like that's when 361 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: you know you really fucked up. So it was a 362 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: rough night getting through that show. I also think we 363 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: played like a really sad song for the cover if 364 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, too, So I was just trying to 365 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: hold it together and that was just what a time. 366 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: What a time. But other than that, I mean, there 367 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: there's not really any drama with the girls. That's one 368 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: of the best parts about it is it's just so 369 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: supportive of and everybody backstage like wants to help each 370 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: other where like sharing, sharing, like makeup, and I mean 371 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: it's COVID, so not really now, but like we used 372 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: to like share makeup and like help each other and 373 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: like learn harmonies for each other's songs and walk away 374 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: with everybody's numbers on your phone and just like hang 375 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: out and stuff. And there's been so many new girls 376 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: to play songs that for just that I'm obsessed with 377 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: me And Mantia is one of the best songwriters I've 378 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: ever met, and she's still in college and she's just like, 379 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: she's the most inherently likable person I've ever met in 380 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 1: my entire fucking life. She's just you look at her 381 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: and you're like, I want to I want to be 382 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: your friend, I want to know you. And then there's 383 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: this girl named Ali Dunn who played for the first 384 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: time on the anniversary show, and she writes with my 385 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: boyfriend a lot, and they write some really really great 386 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: ship and I just think she's just such an artist 387 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: in the sense that she couldn't sound like anybody else 388 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: if she wanted to. Like, she's just so herself and 389 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: so singular. And I'm a very very big fan. So 390 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: if you guys ever want to come to songsuf for 391 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: justs we you shows every Monday at the listening from 392 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. But you can also tann it on 393 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: our YouTube and watch live, which is really really cool. 394 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: If you can't be here or you're you know, still 395 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: kind of hanging at home, It's a really great way 396 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: to be part of the show. And we have some 397 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: really cool merch as well. It's like, actually very very cute, 398 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: if I do say so myself, And it's a great 399 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: way to support the cause because really, my my manager 400 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: and team are are doing this out of you know, 401 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: just the kindness of their hearts and the passion they 402 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: have towards helping female artists. And it's really beautiful and 403 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I can't believe it's gone seven years. And it makes 404 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: me really happy to know that people have wanted to 405 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: hear female artists enough to keep this show going for 406 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: seven years. Because if it was true that country fans 407 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to hear women sing, we wouldn't be here. 408 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: We would have lasted like a year. And at the 409 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: very beginning of songs stuff for jets, I remember reading 410 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: this tweet online where somebody had said it was like 411 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: this like parody or like it wasn't like a meme. 412 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: It was like an anonymous account called at not a 413 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: hit songwriter or whatever, and it was supposedly this quote 414 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: unquote hit songwriter who just basically talked about Nashville all 415 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: the time anonymously, and like, I get it, that's probably 416 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: very cathartic. Some of his tweets are really funny. But 417 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: he said something and he was like, just because you 418 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: packaged five average female artists together doesn't gonna it isn't 419 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: going to make them one great female artist or something 420 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: like that. And I was like, oh, that's so uncomfy. 421 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: And I remember people like kind of talking shipped to 422 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit, like being like, oh, you started 423 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: song so for Jets would just whine about being girls 424 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm like you. One time, I 425 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: was like kind of on a date with this guy 426 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: and we end up meeting up with his friends and 427 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: one of his friends said that and I was just 428 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: like okay, bye, and then I drunk texted him for 429 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: like six months after that. But anyways, that should have 430 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: been my sign that I needed to eat out of there. 431 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: So it's very very important to me. Thank you guys 432 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: so much for listening about the story behind songsuf for Jets, 433 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: and I hope to see you at a show or 434 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: see you online. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. 435 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm kaylie shot and this is too much to say. 436 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Let's don't ask me questions soon I got too much 437 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: say out turn it out of you