1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Just for the record, do you have any more snaps 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback? Left in you they need? 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,919 Speaker 2: I got you? Hey, I got an arm? 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Leave all right? Friends, Here we go. It is the 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: new League Year. Happy New Year to you and yours edition. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: What are you doing of the best year available? Jason 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Gibbs presented by Bullseye Event Group for award winning game 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: day experiences. Visit Bullseye eventgroup dot com. Hi there, friends, 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. My name is Andrews Siciliano. We did 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: not get the tuxedos and the party hats and the 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: streamers and the confetti's. There will be no making out 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: in Times Square. It is just me, your humble host, 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs, also a host sometimes Humble with the best 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: podcast available. Give a Happy New Year, Buddy, Merry New 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Years Year. Away we go, and away we go, Way 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: we go. Come it up the Pride of Monroe, Alabama. 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Titus Howard, the Browns new offensive lineman. But where he 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: is going to join BPA? Where will Titus Howard play 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: on the line or where would he like to play 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: on the line. Let's phrase it. Let's phrase it that way. 21 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Coming up shortly right around the corner on BPA as 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: we open up the new league gear and a friendly reminder, 23 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: because maybe we have to remind other teams like the 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Raiders the new league year did not 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: become official until four pm Eastern time. So, Gibeas, you 26 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: have been putting together CBD Cleveland Browns daily these last 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: couple of days, and right here, longtime listener, it is. 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: It is a challenge because as all this news kind 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: of sort of comes across the high speed news wire, 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: not all of it is actually locked in until four 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. We could say confidently, however, that the 32 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Browns have added Titus Howard. That's a trade with the Texans, 33 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick going back to Houston. The 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Browns had three, and they have added former Chargers first 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: round pick offensive guard Zion Johnson and former Packers o 36 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: lineman played all over the place, guard and center, most 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: notably center last year Elton Jenkins. Your thoughts, sir. 38 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: And we would be we can't short change our guy. 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: We brought back Tevin Jenkins, yes, as well, bolstering that 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: Brown's offensive line here in twenty twenty six, a complete 41 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: makeover on the Browns offensive line. Now where are all 42 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: these pieces fit. I think it's to be determined. I mean, 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: who's playing guard, who's playing tackle, who's playing center. We 44 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: have a lot of guys that can play a lot 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: of different positions. But the Browns clearly had a focus 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: going into free agency, and it was to revamp and 47 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: improve that Brown's offensive line from a year ago. 48 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let let's give it the headline like this, 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: The Browns offensive line right now is better and hopefully 50 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: healthier than it was a year ago. We came into 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: the season a year ago with a new offensive line 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: coach and Mike Lumgren and this idea that hey, you're 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: getting back to the ground and pounds Joel Patonio's words, 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty twenty twenty one install that kind of offense. 55 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Brown's obviously a playoff team in twenty twenty that we 56 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: had seen five to six years ago. It for a 57 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: litany of reasons, didn't necessarily get off the ground. Joel 58 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: Botonia was a rock at left guard. Ethan Postig battled 59 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: and battled until he tore his achilles late in the season. 60 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Right guard was somewhat of a revolving door between Wyatt 61 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Teller and obviously Tevin Jenkins, there as well, for a 62 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: litany of reasons. Dwan Jones started at the left side, 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: ended up on the right side. Then he was the 64 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: victim of a low blow that was not flagged it 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: should have been flagged, and then he hurt his knee 66 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: and he was done for the year. The offensive line 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: never came into place like we thought it would come 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: into place these additions, and I think it's key Gibe 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: for the most part. In the middle of the line, 70 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: Titus Howard played a lot of guard last year, although 71 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: he has been predominantly a right tackle. You build a 72 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: line from the inside out. They're not all young pieces, 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: although Zion is only four now soon to be five 74 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: years removed from being taken number seventeen. Overall, the other 75 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: two pieces, Jenkins and Howard, are thirty year old pieces. 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: But you shell out the cash and you hope that 77 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: you are reliable and big in the middle of your 78 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. 79 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 80 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: And I go back to Emery Hunt on Cleveland Browns 81 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: Daily at the NFL Combine a few weeks ago, he 82 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: said a lot of talk about tackle, tackle, tackle, You 83 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: gotta have tackles, you gotta have really good tackles, And 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: he's right, but he also said everything starts inside. Like 85 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: you just said, guard center, you got to have a 86 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: good middle of that offensive line, and the Browns have 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: clearly made that a priority. Now, as of this point, 88 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: we don't know what Joel Betonio is going to do. 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 4: Knock. I would maybe hopefully he comes. 90 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 3: Back, but if not, you know, you've put yourself in 91 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: a position where you've got a lot of stability inside 92 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: and you've got some depth, and you have guys that 93 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 3: can play multiple positions, and you know they they clearly 94 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: were focused on what they needed to do here in 95 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: free agency to kick things off, and that was the 96 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 3: priority needs to be getting that offensive line back to 97 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 3: the high level that it's been over the last few years, 98 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: and unfortunately was not last year for a number of 99 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: different reasons. 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and this, if you look at pick six 101 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: or you look at pick twenty four, regardless, and we 102 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: discussed this at the combine, this is a right tack 103 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: not a left tackle. Draft Now doesn't mean there aren't 104 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: left tackles. There certainly are, but even look at CC 105 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: Malino at Francis Malnou at the right tackle there for 106 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: the University of Miami, you saw him play deep into 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs, obviously play in the National Championship Game. The 108 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: guy is a maller. There are a lot of people 109 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: think he might be better served kicked inside playing right guard. 110 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: Look at Spencer Fano at Utah. He was taking snaps 111 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: at center at the end of the combine. He's a 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: right tackle. Some people think he's a right guard. He 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: could end up playing center. Flexibility here, position flex I 114 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: think is the key. Is there a world in which 115 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Joel Botonio comes back? Yeah, well, how does that fit 116 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: with the moves the Browns have made? It would likely, 117 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: and this is just my estimation, fit like this. It 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: would go Botonio obviously back into his comfortable position, into 119 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: his comfortable recliner at left guard, than Elton Jenkins at center, 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: than Zion Johnson at right guard, and then Titus Howard 121 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: at right now tackle. This is just me spitballing here. 122 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: Zion has played right guard now. He hasn't played right 123 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: guard since his rookie season, where he was pretty much 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: only a right guard. Since then, his last three years 125 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: has been left guard. He has been an inconsistent player, 126 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: but he's been consistently available right and availability sometimes is 127 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: your best ability. Zion Johnson much like a Dafe oh 128 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: Way perhaps down the stretch for the Chargers was a 129 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: guy that came on and had a really good second 130 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: half of the season and probably made himself a lot 131 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: of money if you believe what is reported on the contract. 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: But the Browns are basically giving him a year. It's 133 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a two year deal, you know, call it a three 134 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: year deal. On paper, these things are two year deals. Basically, 135 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: year one is what the fifth year option would have 136 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: been if the Chargers had picked it up in year 137 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: two as a similar number. I know a lot of 138 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: fans may say, wait a minute, you're signing a guy. 139 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: You're signing a guy whose team didn't pick up his 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: fifth year option. This happens all the time. The Ravens 141 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: didn't pick up Tyler Linderbaum's fifth year option. Am I 142 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: comparing the two not necessarily one sign for the largest 143 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: center contract in free agent in NFL history. It's different math. 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: But Rokwan Smith didn't have his fifth year option picked up. Okay, 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: this happens all the time because teams look at the 146 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: economics of the situation and go, you know what, We'll 147 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: let the guy test the market. He did test the 148 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: market and the Browns are going to sign him. They 149 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: are better today for my money than they were a 150 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: month ago. Certainly on the offensive line. What about Luke Whippler. 151 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: My dad says, you need depth. You don't go to 152 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: battle with five offensive linemen. Luke Whipler could very much 153 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: still be in the conversation to start, depending on whether 154 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: or not Joel comes back. Jenkins could play right guard, 155 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Zion plays left guard. If Joel retires and then Whippler 156 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: goes in as your center, and if he doesn't, you 157 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: need depth here. You're not dressing. 158 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: Five, That's right. I think. 159 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: The other thing to note here with all of these 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 3: signings and the trade offs for Titus getting younger, I mean, 161 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: you got guys that have been the league three, four 162 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: or five years. There's some good durability, especially with Zion Johnson. 163 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: I know that Elton has been a little banged up 164 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 3: a little bit. I'm pulling up numbers here as I go. 165 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he brought his leg late. He had an injury 166 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: late last year. 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: But otherwise he's been pretty healthy. But you're talking about 168 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: guys between the ages of twenty five and thirty years old, 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: which in the NFL makes you a lot younger than 170 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: what you were on the offensive line, and I think 171 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: that's as big as anything. And you have guys that 172 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: have some good durability that are coming in with some 173 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: you know, good track records of staying upright and functional. 174 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Titus Howard and Elton Jenkins in the same draft 175 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen draft. One is a first round pick 176 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: and the other was a second round pick. They were 177 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: taking basically twenty picks apart, and they're now both sliding 178 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: into the Browns offensive line. Let's talk about the Devin 179 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: Bush thing, because I think a lot of Browns fans 180 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: and I'll count mysel in that count me in there 181 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: as a Brons fan certainly, and as someone who is 182 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: in the middle. I wanted Devin Bush back. I'm disappointed 183 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: that Devin Bush is not coming back. I wish him well. 184 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: He had a good couple of years there. He was 185 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: like a downhill sea ball kill ball guy last year 186 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and he really came into his own. He had the 187 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: multiple pick sixes, including the one in Week eighteen in 188 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: that win in Cincinnati in which Miles got the single 189 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: season sack record, he had to pick six against the Ravens. 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: He had a lot of really great moments. I wish 191 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: him well. The Bears are getting a good one. Both 192 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: can be true. I'm also kind of excited about the 193 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: Quincy Williams signing. Last year was not his best year 194 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: when we went to New York, and I don't want 195 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: to bring up the memories because that Jets game was 196 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: awful on so many levels, so many levels. We were 197 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: walking into a well Quincy Williams has been benched situation there. 198 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: It didn't work with Aaron Glenn. Half that staff has 199 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: been fired. The Jets are now signing every veteran piece 200 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: they can find for ten million dollars a year. I 201 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: don't get what they are doing, but that's another show 202 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: for another time. Quincy Williams and Mike Rutenberg, the Browns 203 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, have their history from New York. He 204 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: knows this system. He has been a very good player. 205 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: He is more than just Quinn Williams brother. He's a 206 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: solid player who had a bad year who I think 207 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: can slide in to Devin Bush's shoes and do the 208 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: job and do it well. 209 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: I will miss Devin Bush. Yes, shout out to Devin. 210 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: He resurrected his career here. I mean he saved his career. Yeah, 211 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 3: it was on life support when he got here, and 212 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: that's a credit to him. It's also a credit to 213 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: coach Jason Tarver and Jim Schwartz in the defensive scheme. 214 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: So it'll be interesting to see what happens is he 215 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: goes to Chicago if that's the same type of defense 216 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: that Chicago runs, right, But. 217 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: It is not. We'll just say right now, it is not. 218 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: The data is alland does not run the same front 219 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: the same system at all. Does that mean Devin is 220 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: not going to be a success there, No, no, no, 221 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: not at all. It'll be an adjustment for him. 222 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, I just I hope 223 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 3: it all works out for him. He's resurrected his career, 224 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: he's got some generational wealth now he's set up, and 225 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: I know, I know he's got a little girl that 226 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: is going to benefit greatly from all of that. So 227 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 3: I wish him nothing but the best. If you're not 228 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: going to be able to keep him, why not go 229 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: talk to the defensive coordinator of your football team, find 230 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: out who he likes, what makes the most sense. And 231 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: for him, it was Quincy Williams and that was one 232 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: of those situations where he was an All Pro. This 233 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: is a guy that has a track record. You mean, 234 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: he's he's done some big things. He had a bad 235 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 3: year last year. I think you throw that bad year 236 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: out and let's let's see what happens this coming year. 237 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 4: Because he's put. 238 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: Together some fine seasons, one hundred plus tackles in multiple seasons. 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: He's made plays, he's he fits what Mike Rutenberg wants 240 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 3: to do. And I think Mike Ruttenberg and Andrew Berry 241 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: were both on that day pretty happy. I was told 242 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: that things were a little joyous in the general manager's 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 3: office when that all went down. 244 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: Three years ago when he was Quincy Williams and All Pro, 245 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: he had one hundred and thirty nine tackles fifteen TFLs, 246 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: which is good. It was also three years ago. I mean, 247 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: we're not fooling ourselves. Okay, look, it's okay. 248 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 3: Maybe you need a different you're going back to a 249 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: familiar system that you have excelled at. 250 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Browns have had success over the years plugging 251 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: in livebackers, veteran liebackers, whether it's Anthony Walker or Jordan 252 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: Hicks or Devin Bush. Obviously not all in the same 253 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: system obviously for the first one, especially a walk. But look, 254 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: you hope, cross your fingers, you make it work here, 255 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: and you hope it works on the offensive line as well. 256 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest, Gibbet, one of the new 257 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: faces on the Browns offensive line. It's pretty cool to 258 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: have this guy as our next guest on BPA, the 259 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: best podcast available. He is the newest member, well technically 260 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: kind of not sort of but not. Everything is official 261 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: as we record this newest member of the Browns offensive line, 262 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Titus Howard. Welcome to Cleveland. 263 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: Man, Yes, sir, and nice to meet you. 264 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: I know, as we sit down and do this today, 265 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: you're doing the car wash, you're shaking hands, you're kissing babies. 266 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: You got the family there. How is that going? I'm 267 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: sure it's a lot. 268 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the process has been pretty smooth though. You know, 269 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: just got up early this morning. That was the only thing, 270 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: you know, at five o'clock to do the physicals. But 271 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: everybody in the building been showing love of wasa silly 272 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: real nice so socidy come back. 273 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: You had said when the trade went down that you 274 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: weren't necessarily surprised, but it's still one thing to go Okay, 275 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of ready for this. It's another thing to 276 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: like move your family. You got a wife and four kids, 277 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Like you're moving your entire life to Cleveland, Like can 278 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you wrap your head around that yet? 279 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man. 280 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: It was kind of like I kind of knew it 281 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: was coming, but uh, you know, when I found out 282 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: that was actually happening, it was gonna be the Browns. 283 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: And I kind of. 284 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 2: Sawd that Coach Warhop I was a coacher, and I 285 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: was excited because coaches Coach Warhaw my coach in twenty 286 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: twenty two and area. I always told guys it was like, 287 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: who's your favorite office line? Coach I was like, Coch Warhop, 288 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: you know. So I was excited, you know, to be 289 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: back here and be able to you know, play for him. 290 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: And you know, looking at you know, the place the 291 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Brown's in and I see the potential and where we're 292 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: going to go, and I heard the plan. I'm excited 293 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: to be a part of a team that can you know, 294 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: to be a part of the. 295 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 4: Team that can change things around. 296 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: So I'm a site for the opportunity, you know, to 297 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: be here and be a leader and lead his group. 298 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Our guy Joe Thomas The Hall of Famer also said 299 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: that George Warhop was one of his favorite old line 300 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: coaches because Joe got coached by George when he was 301 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: here the first time. Why is he your guy? 302 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: Because I feel like he get the most of his players. 303 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: You know, he's all about productivity, and so he gonna 304 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: coach everybody on the office line the same way. Whether 305 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: you're the top paid guy, you the practice squad, he 306 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: going to demand your best every single day. And I 307 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: think he just holds everybody you know to that same standard. 308 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: And you got to match his intensity every day. So 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 2: if you don't, you're not able to do that, it's 310 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 2: not the place to be. He's not to coach for 311 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: you because you know he going to demand the best 312 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: for you every day. 313 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 4: He's not gonna let. 314 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: You slap child like I used to always tell guys. 315 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: You know, I was a young guy when he started 316 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: coaching me. But you know, me and tomsl he coached 317 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: us the same way every day, So you know that 318 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: made me better as a player. Uh. 319 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: May everyone in a room respect him a lot more. 320 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: And you know I was I was sad when he 321 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: didn't come back to Houston, but you know we always 322 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: stayed in contact, and we always say that one day 323 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 2: we'll get a chance, you know'll be back. 324 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: So this it and look at you and Sunsel. Now 325 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: you're getting a new deal. Laramie is getting a nice 326 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: new deal as well. In Washington. That guy, that guy 327 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: not in any way to take away from your contract, 328 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. Yeah, but you guys, let's let's 329 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: go collectively. You guys have done well. Laramie's new deal. Man, 330 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm like that guy keeps winning. 331 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got that contract thing down to tee every 332 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 2: time he every time he gonna get that deal. 333 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 4: There's gonna be good. Everybody was like the. 334 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: Highest paye ever every time, every single time. All that said, Titus, 335 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: you were the longest tenured position player. There's a cave 336 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: yeat position player with the Texans. Hurt a little bit 337 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: to say goodbye. 338 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for sure. 339 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 2: The day after the trade, you know, I was just 340 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: you know, sitting at home and basing. Nick and Demiko 341 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: called me and we talked. It was like, hey, come 342 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: up to the building. Uh, you know a lot of times, 343 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: guy don't get a chance to go back in. 344 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: The building, you know, see her on for your leave. 345 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: So I went up there got a chance that they 346 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 2: had everybody wait on me, see me, talked to everyone 347 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 2: for a couple of hours, sat down with Nick and Demiko, 348 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: like it's all loved there, Like you know, it was something. 349 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the business side sometimes you're 350 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: not gonna be stay somewhere your whole career, but like 351 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: we mutual respect, uh you know, so, I, you know, 352 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: wish him nothing but the best and vice versa. 353 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: You know. 354 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 4: I was. I'm grateful for my time. 355 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: In Houston, Like everyone there was like always good to me, 356 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: So I can I have no complaint. Uh so, But 357 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: I'm just excited to be you know, Cleveland Brown. Like 358 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: ever since I signed, I've a lot of people hit 359 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: me up, fans, re media, just people around the city 360 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 2: business wise, and there's been nothing but love and you know, 361 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: so I'm excited to be a part of this franchise. 362 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: All right, let's turn the page. Now, let's keept to 363 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: what matters Titus. Where are you going to be playing? 364 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna be a tackle. 365 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Okay, right tackle, right tackle. You moved inside a little 366 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: bit last year, play left guard and right guard. Your versatility, 367 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: I would have to think had to be something the 368 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Browns liked as well. Did you feel comfortable playing guard 369 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: last year? 370 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah, I could play guard. 371 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: It's not something that I would I'll like go to 372 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 2: it first, but you know, if the team needs me, 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: it's like something happens. And the team always had needed 374 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: me to do something. I was like, hey, they came 375 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: to me and like hey, Tyers, we need you to 376 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 2: do this. 377 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 4: You know, I wanted. 378 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 2: I was all about winning, so you know, whatever I 379 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: had to do to win, that's what matters most to me. 380 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 4: Sometimes. 381 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: You know, I didn't want to go to guard, but 382 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: I did it anyways because it was the best availability 383 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: to get the win on the game, get. 384 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 4: The best guys in the game. 385 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: So you know, but I'm I'm at my bed and 386 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 2: I'm most comfortable when on my right tackle. And you know, 387 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 2: something that me Andrews talked about and it's something he 388 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: told me for the first time. We you know, had 389 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: a conversation like I see you as a tackle. So 390 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: you know, I'm mistaged to get here and work and 391 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: prove by well I only one abyss and why they 392 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 2: paid me? 393 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: All right, Well you're a team player too, so I 394 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: mean that was obviously event last year. Any any coach Hotay, 395 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: let's just get our best five on the field. That's 396 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: what they were doing last year with the Texans and 397 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 1: you kicked inside. Just for the record, do you have 398 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: any more snaps at quarterback left in you? 399 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: They need me. I got you. I tell you, Hey, 400 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: I got an arm, so't gonna leave. 401 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Dude, you do have an arm. So I went down 402 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: this YouTube rabbit hole last night, Titus, So let me explain. 403 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: You're from Monroeville, Louisiana, like halfway between Mobile and Montgomery, 404 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,479 Speaker 1: and you were a six foot five. How much were 405 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: you weighing back then, like two months. 406 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. 407 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even seach four five or was I was 408 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: like six three? You're six sixty three around like one 409 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: eighty eighty five. 410 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Okay, So I highly encourage people. We're gonna we're gonna 411 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: show some on the screen here to to check out 412 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: your highlights, because dude, you're killing people. You're this dual 413 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: threat quarterback. How many people in your high school it's 414 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: not a big town. 415 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 4: And now it's probably three hundred and something for yeah. 416 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, you occasionally you threw some dots on those highlights, 417 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: but you're killing people. They snap it to you and 418 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: you're a bulldozer. 419 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, I just tell coach because first 420 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: when I first got to high school, I was a 421 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: tight end. But then they found out I can throw 422 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: the ball and it was like, well, we're gonna put 423 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 2: your quarterback, and so like for my sophomore year, all 424 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: way up to my senior year, I was just had. 425 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: I was probably averaging like one hundred and fifty two 426 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: hundred rushianyards a game, like one hundred, one hundred and 427 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: twenty one hundred and fifty passing. 428 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 4: I was my last career game in high school. 429 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: I had like three hundred and fifteen yards of Russian 430 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: off like fifteen carries, with like another two hundred passing. 431 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Okay, so you you you remember those numbers like it 432 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: was yesterday, because that's it. I wrote that down three 433 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards correct, Uh huh? 434 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 435 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Did you guys win? 436 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 437 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 2: We I had all those stats and we still lost. 438 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 2: I think the team put up like sixty. We can 439 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: put up fifty, So it's crazy. 440 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: Did you ever whether it was like to Bill O'Brien 441 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: or Nick Cayley or whomever, go in there, and go, hey, 442 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: come on, tackle eligible, put me in motion, hand me 443 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: the ball, let me throw. 444 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: So the crazy thing about that was we always talked 445 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: about me doing that, but I always would lose the 446 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: deal to LT because he had he was older than me, 447 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 2: so he was like, hey, throw me the ball. 448 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: And then it was like, well LT got the deals. 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: So they did throw the ball as the Dolphins and 450 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: he dropped and so I was like, you know, I 451 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 2: would have I would have called that. 452 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I don't want you to catch the ball. 453 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: That would be nice, don't get me wrong. I want 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: you to throw the ball. 455 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that So what a funny story about last year. 456 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: We had a game against the Bucks last year and uh, 457 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 2: you know, they scored like thirty sections ago and you know, 458 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: we get down to like our thirty or their thirty 459 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: yard land, so we had like seventy yards ago and 460 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: we were about to get ready to go out and drive. 461 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 2: Walked up to the quarterback coach. I was like, hey, hey, 462 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: jerraw cjk' make this throw. Let me know I got you, 463 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: and they just all thought it was so funny though 464 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: it was crazy, and man, you you. 465 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: Got an arm Monroeville Louisiana. So as I said, between 466 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: Mobile and Montgomery, birthplaced a Harper lead to kill a Mockingburg. 467 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Also not far from Burnt Corn, Alabama. You have been 468 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: to Burnt Corn, Alabama. 469 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: Burnt Corn so like fifteen minutes away. 470 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: That's a real place. 471 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a real place. 472 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Okay, because I saw it on the map last night. 473 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, that can't be real. 474 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: Did you tell you got like Monroeville, which is the 475 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: city you got Franklin, Alabama, which is where I actually 476 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: stayed at because I stayed outside the city limits, and 477 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: then you got like Burnt Corn and pine View, like 478 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: all the type stuff like that. 479 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's no snow there, not much, although Mobile 480 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: occasionally gets snow. Houston, you had no snow. You're getting 481 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: ready for Cleveland where yesterday was beautiful like golf weather 482 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: today and we might get snow next week or over 483 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: the weekend. Are you ready for snow? Have your kids 484 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: seen snow? 485 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: So my kids have seen snow twice. It snowed in 486 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: Houston twice in the last couple of years, so they 487 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: got a chance to see snow. And we take a 488 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: snow trip every year, like so we go to like 489 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Park City, Utah, Breaking Ridge, Jackson Hole. 490 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. 491 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: So you know, but as far as like I'm ready 492 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: for the cold, I mean, at the end of the day, 493 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: it's cool, like it's gonna be cold, but you know 494 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: it don't last long, So. 495 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: It does not last long. 496 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: When you get cold the field, you don't even think 497 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: about the cold though. I only tall you think about 498 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: being cold when you on the sideline and. 499 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: Then you got you'd be having a warm up. But 500 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: when you get on the field, you don't be thinking. 501 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: About that guy that's a cross rings, so I'm more 502 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: worried about him than the cold. 503 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: Cold brings out characters. My life used to say, although 504 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: we had some road games last year, or I was 505 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: questioning my character, we had a game in Chicago where 506 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: it's like one degree, Yeah that was the taste. Yeah 507 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: one degree is like negative fifteen with a win. But 508 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: we don't need to get into that. Well, we'll look 509 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: forward and look forward to having you on the field, 510 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: Titus Howard. Excited to have you. Can't wait to see 511 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: you in the off season program and on the field 512 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: for OTA's and mini camp and all that fun stuff. 513 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cleveland again, best to Luckman. 514 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: Yes, sir, thank you for having good. 515 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: Time to Titus Howard there. So when all of you 516 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: get anxious about the quarterback situation, just know, Gibb A 517 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: Titus Howard could be an option a kid. 518 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 3: Maybe not Well, how many times last year or in 519 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: the last couple of years have we said, okay, so 520 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: the third quarterback isn't up, who's the emergency third? 521 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm lazy? It was so a couple of years ago. 522 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: Is Harrison Bryant? 523 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: That's right? 524 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Who was it last year? I had this? I think 525 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: it was Blake Whiteheart, I think so. I think it 526 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: was black I remember having this conversation with Kevin and 527 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,719 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was Blake Whiteheart. Maybe Titus can 528 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: do a little bit for us, but it also it 529 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: also takes you back to Tom Moore, the legendary NFL 530 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: assistant quarterback coach offensive coordinators with the Colts forever was 531 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: with the Bucks when when Tom Brady circled back there 532 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: at the end as well, and Tom Moore and I'm 533 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: paraphrasing are basically was like, if we have to go 534 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: to this guy, like we're bleeped, so like, yeah, stops 535 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: how many Now we're going to navigate. We're not going 536 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: to navigate it. 537 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 3: One of the third stringer is not getting enough reps 538 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: in practice. It's a second stringer. It doesn't matter if 539 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning goes down. 540 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter exactly. That's a better way to say it. 541 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: You're a broadcast professional, it doesn't matter. I'm with the 542 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer at that point. Neither am I. I'm 543 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: just a guy that they gave an award to. It's 544 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: over there, it's a plaque. 545 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 4: It's lovely. Yeah. 546 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: I think Titus Hour is going to be a great fit. 547 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: I do think, even though he seems he seems set 548 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: up right tackle and that's likely where he goes his position. 549 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: Flexibility because injuries do happen both in game and midweek, 550 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: is a huge plus. Let's go around the AFC North. 551 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: We still don't know as of this hour the Steelers 552 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Honestly, call me when they figured out. I'm 553 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: done talking about it. As for the Bengals, I like 554 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: their Boye Mafe addition, I like their Brian Cook additioned 555 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: Cincinnati native by the way, and he's a bear Cat 556 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: as well. I don't know the price tag on boy 557 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: A Mafe that's a little bit bonkers for me. And 558 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: then gimme, there is the curious case of Max Frosby 559 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: Trey hendricksonto the Baltimore Ravens. Let's just let you talk first. 560 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: What do you think? 561 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 3: Like you, I was like, wow, that's that's a hell 562 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: of a move by the Ravens at the eleventh hour 563 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: to change things. Actually, I think it was at the 564 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: one o'clock hour. I think you were past midnight. The 565 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 3: only when I brought up today, I was playing devil's 566 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 3: advocate in our office. I said, how can you prove 567 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: that the Ravens, you know, didn't believe that he wasn't 568 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 3: going to be a factor, or that the injury was 569 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: severe enough. 570 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 4: You can't. 571 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: You can't prove that their medical staff didn't say, okay, like, 572 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: we're not sure if he can recover completely from this injury, 573 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 3: we need to maybe back out of this. Every medical 574 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: staff's different. There's thirty two medical staff thirty two, no universal. 575 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: System or no way of doing this. 576 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 3: Do I think it's look shady, absolutely, But you can't 577 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: how do you prove it? 578 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: Both can be true, it's not a good way to 579 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: do business, and they might have been terrified after looking 580 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: at that knee, and it's not a question of whether 581 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: or not he could pass the physical right now, everyone knows. 582 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: Everybody knows here Max Rosby can't play football today, and 583 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens knew that as well. It's about looking at 584 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: everything and saying, oh, we think he's going to get 585 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: back to the same form. It also could be and 586 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: this is, you know, pure speculation. Hey guys, he'll be okay, 587 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: but we think he's got like one year left on 588 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: these tires. I'm gonna use a bad car analogy, right, 589 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: like this engine's about to fall through the floor. So 590 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: it might be a year, it might be a great year. 591 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: But that's it again, pure speculation. The Ravens are within 592 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: their rights and it's a bad way to do business. 593 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: Both can absolutely be and are true. Also, the Raiders 594 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: wrote all these contracts, or at least agreed to terms 595 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: in all these contracts, and now they get Max Crosby 596 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: bag and that was math that they had not planned for. 597 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 4: Now. 598 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: I threw that out on the socials when all this 599 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: broke on Tuesday, and a lot of Raider fans who 600 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: use colorful language who knew came back at me that 601 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't understand the cap, Like, no, people, that's not 602 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: the case, that there's nothing to do with that. Actually 603 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: I didn't answer because just step away. It's not about 604 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: whether or not they have the cap. The Raiders can 605 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: make the cap work bringing mac Crosby back. It's more 606 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: so the cash. Cash and cap are different things. And 607 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: they had not planned for writing a thirty million dollar 608 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: check this year to Max Crosby. That's different from the cap. Also, 609 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: people say, oh, the Ravens had this up their sleeve, 610 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: and now they get out of it, and now they 611 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: get Trey Hendrickson, They're the huge winner. They let nine 612 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: of their own free agents walk. We're just sitting here 613 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: lamenting losing Devin Bush. They let nine of their guys walk. 614 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Did they want on nine back? Probably not. Did they 615 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: want Tyler Linda Bomb back? Absolutely? They let nine guys go. 616 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: So the idea that they are all of a sudden 617 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: smelling like roses and oh what a sneaky move, Like 618 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: nobody looks good through all of this. 619 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: Nobody No, So I was looking. I'm looking through my 620 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: phone right now. Rap Sheet had a had a tweet 621 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: the but it basically was it The twenty twenty two 622 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: draft class for the Ravens. 623 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: Six guys. All those guys got paid. 624 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but basically it was like two hundred and sixty 625 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: million dollars. 626 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, all those guys got paid. Tyler Lindebaum though, and 627 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: and if I'm the Ravens, I'm mildly upset at the 628 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: Raiders or the rest of the league for absolutely blowing 629 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: the center market out of the water. The highest paid 630 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: center was eighteen million Creed Humphrey eighteen. 631 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 3: Was like seven, Like there's a deep drop off from there. 632 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Yet fifty percent raise. It went from eighteen to twenty seven. 633 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: I don't begrudge him. That's great American at work. If 634 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: you can get a god bless like I do. I 635 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: do a Yahoo show. My friend Jory Epstein led the 636 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: show on Monday with it is a good day to 637 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: be a center absolutely so, like, there are so many 638 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: crazy moving parts in all this and free agency, and 639 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: it's not the first time that a deal fell apart. 640 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: Frank cor changed his mind. Josh mc daniel's far different. 641 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Changed his mind. Players can change their mind, deals aren't. 642 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Last year, Milton Williams had gone to the Carolina Panthers 643 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: until the Patriots stepped in. Now this is only a 644 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: couple hours later. All on Monday, the Patriots stepped in 645 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: up the Annie. Okay, now he's going to the Patriots. 646 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: It turned out okay for them. I tweeted at the 647 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: start of free agency, Happy new Happy free agency friends, 648 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: friendly reminder, nothing is official until four pm. 649 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: Which which is why the NFL needs to change this garbage. 650 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Why like, what's going to change? 651 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: Quick? 652 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: It off Monday at noon like trades can trades can 653 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: start at noon. You can't start dunting until you realize. 654 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: That's what the old system was. And everyone tampered and so. 655 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 3: Tampering your favorite term. 656 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: So at twelve oh one, under the old system, all 657 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: these deals got done at the combine in the dark 658 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: corners of steakhouses at two in the morning, and then 659 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: at twelve oh one they were announced and people went, 660 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I thought free agency just opened. Wait wait, wait, 661 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: how did this deal get done in twenty five seconds? 662 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: How did this get done? Because there was tampering, So. 663 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 4: It's leap just setting. 664 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: We'll let everyone negotiate starting at X hour, but nothing 665 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: becomes official. I don't mind the current system. I really don't. 666 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: I really don't. 667 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's broken. 668 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: Just find me a better system. 669 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: Today. 670 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: Today, Today, we're taping on a Wednesday. Yeah, at four 671 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: o'clock it's all done, or the bulk of it is done. 672 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: So whatever you call the system, the system begins at 673 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: twelve o'clock or on Monday. Just they allowed teams to 674 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: say deals can't I don't know, man, dude, there's no 675 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: way to do it. I don't like we can go 676 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: to an NBA says, and where you're allowed to trade 677 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: thirty five first round draft picks and put all these 678 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: modifications on the deal. Well, if we tank too much, 679 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: you can't have the pick. But if we only do 680 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: a medium tank, then you can have the pick. I mean, 681 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: it's well. 682 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: And here's the thing. Even if you make a trade, 683 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 3: it takes multiple days to find the player if they're 684 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: on vacation, get them in the building and get them, 685 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: you know, get the physical and all that. I mean, 686 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: that's why the Max Crosby stuff didn't break till last night. 687 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 3: You know, it broke on a Tuesday night. The trade 688 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 3: happened on a Friday night. But you got to get 689 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: him in the building. You have to get him from 690 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 3: wherever he's at, fly him in make all the arrangements like. 691 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 4: It's just you're right. I don't know. 692 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what the fix is, but I do 693 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: know that it's going to cost the Raiders a lot 694 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: of money. And if you're Baltimore, maybe some of that 695 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 3: money could have been used to keep some of your. 696 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 4: Guys work than the guys. 697 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, now there is a positive in here for the 698 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: Raiders potentially, Like they went out and they signed all 699 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: these guys, right, they're a better team now, and they 700 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: did spend more on younger guys Krai Walker and to 701 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: Kobe Dean, not like necessarily what the Jets did signing 702 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: all these old pieces. And then you could add Max 703 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Crosby back to it if you can make the money work, Okay, 704 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: Like in the end, maybe it's a bit of a 705 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: blessing weird way to get there, but maybe there's a 706 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: world in which it works. But if I'm one of 707 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: the teams that we're trying to get Max Crosby and 708 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: didn't get him, and the Ravens got him, and I'm 709 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: calling back up, I'm going I'm not paying you the 710 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: same thing they did, right, I'm paying you for sixty 711 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: cents on the dollar, that's another edition of the best 712 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: podcast available. It's brought you by Bullseye Event Group. For 713 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: award winning game day experiences, visit Bullseye Event Group dot com. 714 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: Gibbe it's been fun. Let's do one next week. Maybe 715 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: the Browns will make more moves. I have no doubt 716 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: there will be new newsw ow. No, Travis Kelsey is 717 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: not going to be a Brown. No you thought maybe 718 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: it was never gonna happen, not gonna happen. It would 719 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: have been nice like a goodbye reunion tour wearing Andre 720 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: Davis's old number of the wide receiver Andre Davis, not 721 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: the buy backer Andre Davis. 722 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: With an A or was that the defense that was 723 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: the offensive player? 724 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 4: Right? 725 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, off, Virginia Tech was the wide receiver. Chris Rose 726 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: and I fun fact, were at that game at Candlestick 727 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: when he caught the Kelly Holcomb pass with a minute 728 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 1: remaining in the back of the end zone to beat 729 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. 730 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 3: That's a that's a moment. He had a couple of moments. 731 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 3: It was a solid wide receiver. 732 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever year that was like, oh twoish, whatever. 733 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 4: Now we're dating ourselves. 734 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, there's so many jokes there about dating oneself. 735 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: That's enough. Enough about my personal life. This has been BPA. 736 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: That's Jason Gibbs. I'm andrews cciliato. Talk you next time. 737 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: Crys