WEBVTT - Next Stop, Cooperstown!

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame or Tim Kirkshin I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshen

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<v Speaker 1>And Dad, tomorrow you leave to go up to Cooperstown

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<v Speaker 1>for Hall of Fame induction weekend. Your favorite weekend of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, no doubt about it. And yesterday, Dad, we

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<v Speaker 1>had on the show Billy Wagner, who's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>many players being inducted into the Hall this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and Billy was hilariously funny on our podcast. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, Jeff, we got into an argument because

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<v Speaker 2>I made him wasn't an argument. I made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I got mixed up between a groundhog and

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<v Speaker 2>a woodchuck what Billy used to eat as a kid

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<v Speaker 2>in rural Virginia. So Joel Oh sent us something to

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<v Speaker 2>our great game or what email today saying love the

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<v Speaker 2>show Fellas, But a ground hog and a woodchuck are

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<v Speaker 2>the exact same animals. So I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 2>true or not. All I know is I'm learning something

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<v Speaker 2>as we go along here, thanks in part to Billy Wagner.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I did a quick google, Dad, and it says, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a groundhog and a woodchuck are the same animal. Both

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<v Speaker 1>are common names for the rodent marmada monics. The different

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<v Speaker 1>names are from regional variations in language, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>people describe it. So maybe maybe that's how in rural

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia how they would say it is a woodchuck or

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<v Speaker 1>a groundhog, and we would call it.

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<v Speaker 3>A wood chuck, even though you and I both grew

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<v Speaker 3>up in Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And I think it is part of the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is I got the two animals mixed up because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making ground chuck tonight for dinner, which I thought it

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be a right that was really bad?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well that was not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say one guest I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>is Chuck Barkley, Charles Chuck Barkley.

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<v Speaker 3>I would love to have on the show. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna work on that as we get closer to

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<v Speaker 2>the basketball season. If we can get the chuck wagon

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<v Speaker 2>the bread truck on it would be the greatest thing ever. So, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to share something. I had a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a it's not a complaint, but a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>challenge on one of the one of the lists that

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<v Speaker 2>I come up with, which I come up with all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and I repeat, they're my lists. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>pretend they're the correct list. But this and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a nausie to oral, and it wasn't a best of

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<v Speaker 2>all tim it was The Mary Tyler Moore Show is

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<v Speaker 2>better than the Dick Van Dyke Show. That that was

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<v Speaker 2>the complaint I got from a friend. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I gave my top five sitcoms of all time a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago. Not like any of this is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Get Smart's one, All the Family two, Dick Van Dyke

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<v Speaker 2>is three, Seinfeld's four Cheers is five. And let's be clear, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mary Tyler Moore Show is the sixth greatest sitcom

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<v Speaker 2>of all time on my list, sixth greatest ever. It's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty impressive. And I've told you that Baxter, Ted Baxter,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the you know, the knucklehead newsman who does

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the anchors the news. They are much

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<v Speaker 2>like Walter Kronkite did. My favorite episode is when the

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<v Speaker 2>real Walter Cronkite, the greatest TV newsman in the history

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<v Speaker 2>of our country, is actually on the show as himself

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<v Speaker 2>and Ted meets him. The first thing Ted says to

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<v Speaker 2>Walter Cronkite is Walter. What words do you have trouble pronouncing?

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<v Speaker 2>He asked that the most respected news anchor in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of the world. Oh God, so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, jokes aside, Dad, I'm a radio host of ten

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<v Speaker 1>years just celebrated my this is now ten year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 3>How crazy is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Jeff straight out of Syracuse Straight to Cleveland, had

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<v Speaker 2>your own show Vegas, Philadelphia. Really impressed, really kind of crazy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>really impressed, Joff.

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<v Speaker 1>One of two words that I hate to say the

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<v Speaker 1>most in the radio, or one we've already said four

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<v Speaker 1>times on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Rule rule Right. It's a hard word.

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<v Speaker 1>Hate that word that and brewery brewery right, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know another one is a golfer who just

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<v Speaker 1>had quite the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Rory, Rory.

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<v Speaker 1>I have trouble saying those words, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>mostly because they're just like rolling.

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<v Speaker 3>Over a couple sounds, right, Rory, there's not a letter in.

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<v Speaker 2>There right that that that middle R is troublesome. I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>Theater is something that I'm not real good at and

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<v Speaker 2>I always and I'm a writer, Jeff, I always have

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<v Speaker 2>to think how to spell the word rhythm, because I

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<v Speaker 2>usually get it wrong. I don't have a system on

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<v Speaker 2>how to spell the word rhythm. It's only six letters,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still have a little bit of trouble with

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that weird? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Rhythm is a strange one because there's a th h

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<v Speaker 1>and a y and it's two whys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I always have to think, am I am I

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<v Speaker 2>spelling this properly? I have to get some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>system to remember that it's a relatively simple word. But

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<v Speaker 2>these are the things that bother me and keep me

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<v Speaker 2>up at night.

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<v Speaker 1>Sho, I feel so stupid. There's only one why r

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<v Speaker 1>H Y t.

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<v Speaker 2>H M right, Yeah, gosh, I had to think that

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<v Speaker 2>through all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're gonna curse me with that, dad, Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to struggle with rhythm every time. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good with rhythm, Yes, Jeff, you have great rhythm.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a great dancer, which I can't understand how

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<v Speaker 1>I am so bad at that and you are so

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<v Speaker 1>good at that when I'm your father, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how you get natural rhythm. I just know I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it and I will never have it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's okay. It's just I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 2>teach something. It's like asking me to be taller. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not gonna happen for me either, trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Dad, Well, we're going to get to each

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<v Speaker 1>of the inductees going into the Coopersound Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday, But I know you have some other takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to get too.

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<v Speaker 2>First, right, just just quickly, Rich Hill, age forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>I've started for the Kansas City Royals on Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's the fourteenth team for which he has played,

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<v Speaker 2>ties Edwin Jackson for the most teams that any Major

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<v Speaker 2>League teams any pitcher has ever worked for. Also, they

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<v Speaker 2>both wore ten different uniform numbers, so I guess you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when you switch teams as often as they do, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just roll in and say, hey, I'm used to

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<v Speaker 2>wearing forty four. You know, it doesn't always work that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten different uniform numbers. He started his career in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and five, pitching in relief for the Cubs, that was,

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<v Speaker 2>and the starting pitcher that day was Greg Maddox, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just really cool. Greg Maddox is fifty nine years

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<v Speaker 2>old now, and Rich Hill first game that he pitched in.

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<v Speaker 2>The starter on his team was Greg Maddox. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of cool, right, Dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about how long ago two thousand and five was. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the year that YouTube started. Okay, that was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years ago that YouTube started.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>John Paul the Second's death was in two thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he the White Sox fan?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's the one we just got. Yeah, that's the

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<v Speaker 3>one we just got.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just thinking about how different the world was.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember what our cell phones looked like in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and five, Dad, everybody had still like the Nokia bricks.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how long Rich Hill has been in the.

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<v Speaker 2>League, right, and he's still going and he actually pitched

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<v Speaker 2>okay on on Tuesday Night. Just another reminder. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great curveball and you know what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>with the art of pitching, you can get by.

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<v Speaker 1>And the biggest difference, Dad, is in two thousand and five,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago White Sox won the World Series and in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, Yeah, well they're actually playing a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Speaking of pitching, Jeff Clay Thompson, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>great shooters of all time. Throughout the first ball at

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball game the other day and looked pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. Well, it's not a surprise. His brother, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>is Trace Thompson, who's played in the Major League for

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of years on and off. And I want

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<v Speaker 2>to ask Trace, like, how good a basketball player were you?

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<v Speaker 2>And he said I was pretty good, but not compared

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<v Speaker 2>to his brother. I said, did Clay play baseball? And

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, yeah. He was our leadoff hitter on our

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<v Speaker 2>high school team. He was like six'. Four he was

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<v Speaker 2>the leadoff. Hitter he didn't have much, power but he

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<v Speaker 2>could run and he could do. Something so when we

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<v Speaker 2>saw him throw the first ball and looked athletic doing

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<v Speaker 2>he should because he's a great. Athlete but as we, Know,

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<v Speaker 2>jeff not every basketball football player goes to the mound

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<v Speaker 2>and throws an athletic. STRIKE i was impressed With Clay,

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<v Speaker 2>thompson AND i Asked trey, once what's it like when

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<v Speaker 2>you go shoot with your brother? Now and he, goes

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<v Speaker 2>it's just. RIDICULOUS i feed. Him he stands in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and he makes like twenty five straight three. Pointers

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what great shooters, Do, jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>Shades Of John. Wall remember when he threw out a

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<v Speaker 1>first pitch at A nationals. Game, yeah not, good not, understatemle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>YEAH i mean the man was the heck of an,

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<v Speaker 1>athlete very GOOD nba player and then, right but.

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<v Speaker 2>He never played baseball, before and if you've never played

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<v Speaker 2>the game, before you're not going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>throw a baseball particularly, well it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Swaying it looked Like Uncle rico throwing a.

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<v Speaker 2>FOOTBALL i BET i could throw this football over that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mountain it's so, bad all, right speaking of throwing a baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>Jet Paul skeene's got to win the other. Day he's

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<v Speaker 2>the best pitcher in The National league and probably the

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<v Speaker 2>second best pitcher in baseball To Trek skouobl at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Moment but now he's got five. Victories SO i just

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<v Speaker 2>went looking for guys who have AN era under two

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of a SEASON era under two fewer

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<v Speaker 2>than ten, victories which is possibility For Paul skeens this

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<v Speaker 2>year because they don't ever score him any runs in

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<v Speaker 2>a season of one hundred and seventy five. Innings so

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<v Speaker 2>it's only been four, times and the last time it

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<v Speaker 2>was done was by someone in nineteen oh. Nine so

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<v Speaker 2>If Paul skeins has AN era under, two WHICH i

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<v Speaker 2>think he, will and has fewer than ten, wins WHICH

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<v Speaker 2>i hope is not the, case because for his, sake

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<v Speaker 2>he deserves to win twenty games with the way he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitching he'll be the fifth guy ever to do. That

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<v Speaker 2>do you find that interesting at?

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<v Speaker 1>ALL i find it, shocking AND i feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>all those, pitchers probably none of them taking home any

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<v Speaker 1>hardware because the team was so.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad right, Right, Okay, jeff onto The hall Of. Fame

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<v Speaker 2>we have five guys being inducted On. Sunday what a

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<v Speaker 2>great day this will be in baseball and love Induction.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday so we'll start with each. Row and he won THE,

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<v Speaker 2>mvp he won Ten Gold, gloves made Ten All star,

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<v Speaker 2>teams got three thousand and eighty nine. Hits first ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Years jef two hundred hits each. Year only player to

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<v Speaker 2>do that set the record in two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 2>with two hundred and sixty two. Hits last, YEAR i

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<v Speaker 2>did a speech With Mike, messina And Mike messina looked at,

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<v Speaker 2>me as we're at the, day it's just, talking he, Goes,

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<v Speaker 2>GOD i hated facing a. Row he would just foul it,

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<v Speaker 2>off and foul it, off and foul it off until

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<v Speaker 2>he hit the ball. Hard Like that's how good he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he was capable of spoiling good pitches until he

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<v Speaker 2>found one that he could hit really. Hard AND i told, You,

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<v Speaker 2>jeff he hit a bouncing. Ball ball bounced in front

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<v Speaker 2>of home. Plate he hit it off of one hop

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<v Speaker 2>and lined the single to. Center SO i Called Pat

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<v Speaker 2>gillick the next, day and he was THE gm of The.

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<v Speaker 2>MARINERS i, Said, pat what was? That he, Goes, oh

0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.760
<v Speaker 2>he used to practice that In japan all the, time

0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:41.760
<v Speaker 2>practiced hitting a bouncing. Ball that's what great great hitters.

0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.439
<v Speaker 2>Do he was also a great defensive, outfielder one of

0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.480
<v Speaker 2>the greatest throwing Arms i've ever. Seen but his, bat

0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.199
<v Speaker 2>his bats were his calling card more than. Anything and

0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.719
<v Speaker 2>he protected his. Bats. Jeff he never like threw his

0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.000
<v Speaker 2>bats around or slammed it. In he once told, me he,

0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:03.760
<v Speaker 2>said my bad are like a carpenter's favorite. Hammer you

0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.079
<v Speaker 2>don't throw your favorite hammer. Around you don't throw your bats.

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<v Speaker 2>Around he protected. THEM i love.

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<v Speaker 3>THAT i love, that and well Deserved hall Of fame,

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<v Speaker 3>member each. Hero This sunday RIGHT. C.

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<v Speaker 2>C sabathia is also going. In of, course when you

0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:24.040
<v Speaker 2>look at, wins winning percentage and, strikeouts the only guys

0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:29.680
<v Speaker 2>who can match those three numbers FOR Cc sabathia Are Randy,

0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Johnson Roger, Clements tom Sever Justin, berlander And Greg. Maddox

0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:39.000
<v Speaker 2>and the only left handers with more strikeouts THAN. C.

0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.640
<v Speaker 2>C sabathi in the history of baseball Are Randy johnson

0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.719
<v Speaker 2>And Steve. Carlton pretty, cool And i've also had a

0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Relie JEFF. C. C sabathi is the greatest player ever

0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.280
<v Speaker 2>to go by his initials and of course our Boy

0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Billy wagner's going. In he was a great interview. Yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>the only sets you need to know about him for his, career,

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<v Speaker 2>well he saved four in twenty two. Games he averaged

0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:07.000
<v Speaker 2>eleven point nine strikeouts per nine innings for his, career

0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and for every nine innings pitched he allowed six. Hits

0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.920
<v Speaker 2>so he has the lowest, total lowest hit per nine

0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.960
<v Speaker 2>inning total of anyone who ever pitched more than nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred innings in The Big leagues two thirty one. Era

0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.120
<v Speaker 2>it just shows you how difficult it was to Hit

0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Billy wagner in his, prime.

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<v Speaker 1>No, doubt an amazing guest once, again if you didn't

0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.480
<v Speaker 1>listen to the episode, yesterday make sure to do. So

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<v Speaker 1>just go back one episode and soak it in because

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<v Speaker 1>he's getting super excited for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and of course two guys who went in through

0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.360
<v Speaker 2>a special, committee but they're Still hall Of, famers Because

0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Dick allen should have been A hall Of famer a

0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.280
<v Speaker 2>long time. Ago, jeff go back and look at that

0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.440
<v Speaker 2>rookie season, Sometime oh my, gosh one of the great

0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.520
<v Speaker 2>rookie seasons of all, time and his eleven year, prime

0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:59.040
<v Speaker 2>which was nineteen sixty four through seventy, four he had

0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the highest offensive war in baseball and there wasn't a

0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.920
<v Speaker 2>close second during that time and the full span of his.

0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Career the only player who had a higher slugging percentage

0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.640
<v Speaker 2>and ops Was Hank. Aaron that's how Great Dick allen,

0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.320
<v Speaker 2>was and he should have been in a long time.

0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Ago and our last, guy of course Is Dave, parker

0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:26.000
<v Speaker 2>whose five year stretch he was basically the best player

0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.640
<v Speaker 2>in baseball was nineteen seventy eight season was one of

0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the greats of all, time won a Batting championship two

0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.520
<v Speaker 2>years in a. Row elite defensive outfield or one of

0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the great throwing Arms i've ever. Seen and As i've told, You,

0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.000
<v Speaker 2>jeff he used to wear a star Of david around his.

0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Neck why did he do? That what was his? Explanation

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:45.560
<v Speaker 2>BECAUSE i asked him, once.

0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Because my name Is david And i'm a.

0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Star, exactly very cool and so so sadly we Lost

0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Dave parker a month or so ago To parkinson's. Disease

0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.360
<v Speaker 2>he will not be there On, sunday but he will

0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.800
<v Speaker 2>get a rousing ovation from all those because everyone knew

0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:05.280
<v Speaker 2>how great the cobro.

0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Was all, Right, dad let's jump right into our quirkchins

0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of what's going on In Major League baseball that you're.

0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Seeing, Okay, Jeff so at ten o'clock ten thirty the

0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.640
<v Speaker 2>other night you called me frantically to ask me what

0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.720
<v Speaker 2>about The phillies. Game, well they ended on a walk

0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.120
<v Speaker 2>off catcher's interference in the bottom of the tenth.

0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Inning And i'm like, this this has never happened.

0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Before it. Can't so the last time it, Happened, jeff

0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:34.200
<v Speaker 2>which it's, Amazing i'm surprised it. HAPPENED i don't even

0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.320
<v Speaker 2>remember this. Time but in nineteen seventy, one The dodgers

0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:41.240
<v Speaker 2>were playing The, reds and The dodgers scored on a

0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.960
<v Speaker 2>walk off catcher's. Interference Manny moto was the third bases,

0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Loaded Willie crawford was at the plate And Willy crawford

0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.920
<v Speaker 2>hit the midt of the, catcher who happened to be

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.200
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy One Reds jeff our favorite, guy And Johnny.

0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Bench it Was Johnny. Bench SO i Called John bed

0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>yesterday and he's just started yelling at, me which he.

0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Does he's just. Kidding BUT i, said you know WHY

0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.920
<v Speaker 2>i am. Calling he, GOES i THINK i know why you're,

0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.520
<v Speaker 2>calling and he, said the ball was already in my

0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:17.960
<v Speaker 2>catcher's mitt When Willie crawford swung the. Bat it's the

0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:20.720
<v Speaker 2>worst call, ever he, Said but this is what The

0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 2>dodgers would, do and he was being very. Complimentary, actually

0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.040
<v Speaker 2>they would do whatever it took to win a. Game

0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.680
<v Speaker 2>so he claims the ball was already in his catcher's

0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:35.440
<v Speaker 2>mitt When Willie crawford started the swing and hit the catcher's.

0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Mitt for catcher's, interference which is again, automatic everyone advances

0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.160
<v Speaker 2>one base error on the catcher and no time at

0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.680
<v Speaker 2>bat for the. Hitter So johnny, bess do you think

0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.160
<v Speaker 2>they's seventy? One do you think they sent it back

0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.960
<v Speaker 2>To New york for revealed, well and of course The

0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:56.280
<v Speaker 2>Red sox had a catcher's interference in the first inning

0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>of the next. Game double check With frank from The.

0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Lives first time since nineteen sixty. One that's the farthest

0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.080
<v Speaker 2>thing can go back and be absolutely certain of. Things

0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the first time since nineteen sixty one that a

0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:15.400
<v Speaker 2>team had catcher's interference in consecutive innings like, that even

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:16.800
<v Speaker 2>though they were over a span of.

0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Two, games bottom of the, tenth bottom of the, first

0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.639
<v Speaker 1>it was. UNBELIEVABLE i shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>It SO i just finished our quick conversation With Johnny

0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 2>bench by just, saying you, Know i'll see you In.

0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Cooperstown can't. Wait and then he, started as a tribute

0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to Each, row he started Speaking. JAPANESE i, said, What,

0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.320
<v Speaker 2>johnny you can Speak. Japanese he, goes. Yeah we went

0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.960
<v Speaker 2>there on a like a tour in nineteen seventy eight

0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.960
<v Speaker 2>in the. Offseason he, said we played seventeen games and

0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>he learned a bunch Of japanese, phrases which HE i

0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.719
<v Speaker 2>thought he was making them. Up how AM i going

0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.879
<v Speaker 2>to know the. DIFFERENCE i can't speak at a word Of.

0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Japanese So johnny played seventeen games over there and hit

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.879
<v Speaker 2>nine home runs in seventeen. Games and he, said every

0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:09.560
<v Speaker 2>TIME i if An american board player hit a home,

0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 2>run he got ten thousand yen for each home, run

0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.640
<v Speaker 2>and he got like a load of candy for every

0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.920
<v Speaker 2>home run that he. Hit SO i GOT i got

0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 2>ninety thousand yen a Nine and he, Said so my

0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 2>nickname In japan was Candy, man because every TIME i

0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:29.680
<v Speaker 2>got the, CANDY i gave it to other people. There

0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:35.040
<v Speaker 2>so that's That's Johnny bench's nickname In japan is Candy.

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Man AND i did not know that story until. Yesterday

0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.320
<v Speaker 2>isn't this Typical Johnny? Bench he tells you, Something you,

0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Go how COULD i have known you for this? Long

0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you never told me that.

0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Story he always had something up his.

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 2>Sleep oh he's, great all. Right so we had a

0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.640
<v Speaker 2>really cool thing happened the other. Day jeff Sho Hey,

0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.160
<v Speaker 2>o'tani hitting second in the order and pitching that, game

0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.080
<v Speaker 2>hit a home run and gave up a home run

0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:04.320
<v Speaker 2>in the first. Inning how cool is? That? So Former

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:09.320
<v Speaker 2>phillies Pitcher Randy, lurch really really good hitting, pitcher was

0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 2>the last guy to do, it and he did it

0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:16.320
<v Speaker 2>On may, seventeenth nineteen seventy. Nine And, jeff this was

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>in the game where The phillies beat The cubs twenty

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.399
<v Speaker 2>three to twenty two in ten, innings one of the

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.720
<v Speaker 2>most famous games In Major league. History So Randy lurch

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.120
<v Speaker 2>is batting in the top of the first. Inning he's

0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:34.639
<v Speaker 2>already facing a reliever Because dennis lamp has been knocked

0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:37.480
<v Speaker 2>out of the. Game he's facing a, Reliever Donnie, moore

0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and he hits a homer off Of Donnie moore in

0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the first. Inning so Now Randy lurch goes out to

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.919
<v Speaker 2>pitch the bottom of the first. Inning he gives up

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.639
<v Speaker 2>a home run To Dave. Kingman he gives up a

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.800
<v Speaker 2>bunch more, runs and they take about after six. Batters

0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.399
<v Speaker 2>so he started and the starting pitcher didn't win a

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.600
<v Speaker 2>third of an. Inning Randy lurch went a third of

0:19:57.600 --> 0:19:59.159
<v Speaker 2>an inning and then they got him out of the.

0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Game he was the last pitcher to hit a home

0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.920
<v Speaker 2>run and give up a homer in the first. Inning And,

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 2>jeff just just a note about that twenty three to

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Game Mike schmidt told this story many years. Later,

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 2>so back at the Old Wrigley field before they upgraded,

0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it they didn't have like a. Score they had like

0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:24.159
<v Speaker 2>the old scoreboard that didn't have the running totals of the.

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Game so in like the eighth, Inning Mike schmidt gets

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the third base and he Asks mick kellerher the third

0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.640
<v Speaker 2>basement for The. Cubs as he's looking up at all

0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:38.720
<v Speaker 2>these runs, scored and he says to mc, kellerher what's

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the score of the? Game because he didn't have time,

0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to like or he couldn't count them all, up that's

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>how many runs had been. Scored but you know now

0:20:48.960 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 2>with an electronics, scoreboard it, says you, know it's eighteen

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen or twenty one to twenty or whatever it.

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Was he asked the third, basement what's the score of the?

0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:01.040
<v Speaker 2>GAME i love? That that is so oh. Great Hayden

0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Bird song of The giants had a difficult start the other.

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.119
<v Speaker 2>Day twenty five, pitches six of them were. Strikes SO

0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 2>i Called frank from The alias and, said when's the

0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 2>last time anybody did something had that bad of a?

0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Control and the answer is in twenty twenty, One Tyler

0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 2>chatwood through twenty five, pitches seven, strikes so that was

0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>the last time any pitcher threw twenty five pitches in

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>a game and seventy five percent of them or more were.

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Balls Brayce lewis of The twins had this Line. Jeff

0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:32.720
<v Speaker 2>four at, bats one run, scored no, hits three, RBIs

0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 2>so he knocked in three runs without getting a. Hit

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the Last twin to do that Was Nick punto in

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and. Six so it's been a, while but

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 2>it reminds me of maybe my, favorite my favorite box

0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:48.119
<v Speaker 2>score line of all. Time Ben, petrick who used to

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 2>be a catcher in the big. Leagues he had a

0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Game jeff where he had three at, bats no, runs no,

0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 2>hits four, RBIs so he had a three zero zero.

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.320
<v Speaker 2>FOUR i asked him about it and he, said you know,

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 2>WHAT i went after the. Game i'm thinking to, myself,

0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:08.040
<v Speaker 2>YEAH i had a bad day. Today and then he,

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>said and THEN i looked at the box score and, said,

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>hey had a pretty good. Day he drove in four

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 2>runs without getting a. Hit does that amaze? You?

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah so is he sacrifice?

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Fly probably one of them for not to look it,

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.800
<v Speaker 2>up but it's like sacrifice fly, bases load of, walk two,

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:28.479
<v Speaker 2>groundouts four RBIs without getting a. Hit, wow it's. Unbelievable all, right,

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.600
<v Speaker 2>now this is how BAD i, Am jeff this morning

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.800
<v Speaker 2>Or wednesday. Morning i'm reading the box scores this time

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 2>at five o'clock in the morning with a diet mountain,

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.600
<v Speaker 2>dew AND i look at. THAT i look at The

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Mariner brewer game one to. Nothing The mariners beat The,

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>brewers and the leadoff, Guy brice terrank great defensive second,

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 2>basement goes zero four with four. Strikeouts so he's the

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth time this year that a leadoff guy has

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 2>struck out four times in a. Game i've been charting

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 2>this all. Year the shortstop for the other, TEAM Jp,

0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:02.240
<v Speaker 2>crawford he hit, leadoff so he went over four with

0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:06.520
<v Speaker 2>a strikeout and two grounded into double. Plays so the

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 2>two leadoff guys in that game went over eight with

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 2>five strikeouts and two grounded into double. Plays so this intrigues.

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Me can there possibly be another game in baseball? History

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and we played for one hundred and fifty. Years, well

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>as it turns, out there's never been a game like. This,

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>now keep in, mind jeb gidps were an official stat

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.840
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen thirty one in The National league nineteen forty

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 2>in The American. League But frank from The elias confirmed

0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that's the first time since gidps became official in both

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:44.920
<v Speaker 2>leagues that the two leadoff guys went over eight with

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 2>five strikeouts and two grounded into.

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>Double that's not where you want to be coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next here on is this a great? Game or what

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<v Speaker 1>we've got on this state in baseball? History the best

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<v Speaker 1>number thirty and number thirty one FOR ossi to oral

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<v Speaker 1>and best of all ten coming up?

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<v Speaker 3>Next all, right, dad on this date baseball. History july

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth, right nineteen eighty three was the famous pine tar.

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Game George brett hit a home run in the ninth

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 2>innen to put The royals ahead of The. Yankees he

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 2>hit it off Of Goose Gossage Billy martin on a

0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>recommendation from his third, Baseman Greg nettles, said go check the.

0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Bat there's too much pine tar on the. Bat the

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 2>umpires homeplate Umpire tim McClellan, said, yes there's too much

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>pine tar on this. Bat they measured it and they

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>Called George brett. Out so instead of hitting a home,

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 2>run he was called out for having too much pine

0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 2>tar on the. Bat so The royals lost the, game

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 2>but they, protested of, course And lee, McPhail the president

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>of The American, league overruled and, said, no that is

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 2>not too much pine. Tar the home run, counts and

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 2>now The royals have a five to four over The.

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Yankees so On august the, eighteenth so this is you,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>know a few weeks, later they go back and play

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>the ninth inning At Yankee stadium And Billy, martin the

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 2>angry manager of The, yankees is so upset that they

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have that it's been overturned that he Played Ron guidry

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 2>for that one, inning his best pitcher in center, field

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 2>And Don, mattingley his left handed first baseman at second,

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>base because he, said this is a farce that we

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 2>have to play. This Dan quizenberry came in the, closer

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.600
<v Speaker 2>pitched one inning clean bottom of the ninth games Over

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.159
<v Speaker 2>royals win five Before George brett didn't even go to the.

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Ballpark he told me he was in a hotel. Room

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 2>he didn't even go to the park because what's the,

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>point you, KNOW i just hit a. HOMER i don't

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 2>want to be a part of all. This so he

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 2>was sitting in his hotel room watching the end of

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 2>The Pine tar game when The royals closed it. Out,

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.639
<v Speaker 2>jeff one of the great. Game, yeah one of the

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.640
<v Speaker 2>most famous games of all.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, well you always remember him flying out of the

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>dugout like that's just such a core memory of how

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 1>angry he.

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 3>Was, Right and, however we don't hear the inning being

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:14.239
<v Speaker 3>played again very.

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Often, Right AND i Asked, george of course about this many.

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.440
<v Speaker 2>Times but he, said do you know how Big tim McClellan.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 2>Is he's six.' six he's way BIGGER than. I have,

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 2>HE Said i i've running. Out there i've never been

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>so angry in. My Life but, i'm thinking what do

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 2>you do in charge of? This guy he's way bigger.

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Than you That Was, george brett always always great and, Last.

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Thing jeff on, This Date barry bond's birthday turned sixty

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 2>one years. Old today three greatest hitters of. All time

0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>in order for me again we have to forget a

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 2>bunch of. THINGS here i don't want any huge. Angry,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>arguments here three Greatest hitters i've, ever seen OR that

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 2>i think are the three. Greatest Hitters, Babe Ruth Ted Williams.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 2>Berry bonds. That's it that's.

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 3>The list, all right let's jump Into from ozzie.

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<v Speaker 1>To orl you're giving us the best player each, number today. Number,

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Thirty right this.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Is hard Because It's nolan ryan who wore number thirty

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and also wore number, Thirty FOUR so i wasn't sure

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 2>what to, do There so i'm jumping off Here With

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>nolan ryan is the greatest number thirty of. All time

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>with Apologies To, Tim Rains, orlando cepaida and a. Few,

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 2>others Okay But nolan ryan wore number thirty Four that

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 2>matt's And, the angels and With the angels he had

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 2>a three point zero seventy ra struck out twenty four

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 2>hundred and. Sixteen guys the, most important he threw four

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>no hitters as a member Of the angels two and,

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 2>seventy three one and, seventy four one and. Seventy five

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 2>so no one's thrown more than four. No, hitters ever he,

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>threw seven and four of them came With. The angels

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and if anyone asks You Who nolan, Ryan, Is jeff

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 2>he's the hardest pitcher to Hit In major. League history

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>he is the greatest power pitcher of. All time, and

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 2>uh he's one Of the he threw a baseball as

0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>hard as any man alive for twenty. Five years That's

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.720
<v Speaker 2>that's it's like being the world's fastest human for twenty.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Five years usually last about. Five years, With That nolan

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 2>ryan was incredible for his. Entire CAREER and i.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Think the craziest thing to this day is the fact

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>that he never want to. Cy young it just blows.

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 2>My, mind right, it's amazing and he had a couple

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.360
<v Speaker 2>opportunities and. He didn't what's My Favorite nolan. Ryan's story

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 2>i've told it to. You before remember when We ad

0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>let's see if you can remember. The Punchline rance Mallinick's

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>third basement For The blue jays was, asked once what

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>would the world be like if Everyone Was. Nolan ryan

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>what did?

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 1>He say, he said everybody would be happier and nobody

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>would get.

0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 2>A hit.

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Was exactly everyone would love each other and no one

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>Loved get. That's, right jeff am proud. Of you you

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>remembered Something From rance Malini's and i've told that story a.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Few times thank you. For remembering that was.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Very cool there's a couple of stories that you Tell

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>that i've kind of been ingrained in, my head like

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>THE one i always remember. Dad Is In new york

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>they named a candy Bar After, reggie jackson But in

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 1>baltimore we name our Kids After.

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Brooks robinson that one ingrained, in, There.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Right and i'm glad you, Remember, that Jeff Because reggie

0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Jackson And brooks robinson share. A birthday how cool?

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that did you Know That walter johnson Died on,

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>december tenth nineteen forty Six And tim kirkshon was Born on,

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>december tenth nineteen, fifty six and he Went To Walter Johnson.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 3>High school he Wrote For. The pitch he Wrote for The,

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 3>WIND up.

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I have i have. POISONED you, I have I have i've, Heard.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 2>You jeff for you to be remembering these things, Like

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 2>This i'm. I'm sorry number, Thirty one number, Thirty one

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>this is Really. Not wow this was easy Because It's

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>greg maddox Now Again, ferguson Jenkins another Hall, Of famer war,

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>thirty one also For. The Cubs the cubs retired thirty

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 2>One for Maddox And, fergy jenkins which is. Pretty Cool

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 2>But greg maddox won three hundred and fifty. Five, games

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 2>jeff he had a THREE sixteen era in five thousand and. Eight,

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>innings okay he walked nine hundred and ninety nine batters

0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 2>in his career in five thousand and. Eight Innings And

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 2>derek lowe told me that he played Golf with Maddox

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and maddox told him. The story, HE said i had

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>three starts left in my major league CAREER because I

0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>knew i was retiring at the end of. The year and,

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>HE said i didn't walk anyone the last, three Stars

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.200
<v Speaker 2>because i'll be Damned if i'm going to have one

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>thousand walks on my record In The. Baseball encyclopedia that's

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>how important control Was To. Greg, Maddox, jeff jeff he

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 2>is the greatest control pitcher of. All time he is

0:30:48.400 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>the smartest pitcher by FAR that i have ever. Been

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>around they just tell story after story after story about what,

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>a magician what, a robot what. A Professor greg maddox

0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 2>was on. The mound do you Remember The chipper jones

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>story that. He TOLD remember i told the story that

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 2>they were going To take maddox out of, a game a,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>playoff Game And leo mazzoni came to. The, Mound Well

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>bobby cox came to the mound to take, him Out

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>And greg, Maddock said i'm not. COMING out i got.

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>This guy he's going to foul Out To chipper jones

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>on the. First, PITCH well i got the story. Somewhat

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>wrong chipper. Retold it you remember how he. Retold It,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>leo mazzoni the, pitching coach went to the mound to

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 2>Tell him bobby wants you to walk this, guy Intentionally,

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>And maddix i'm not walking. HIM intentionally i Got this

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 2>he's going to foul Out to chipper on the. First

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:45.080
<v Speaker 2>pitch first pitch he pops Out To chipper jones on the.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 2>First pitch chipper was in fair territory by like, two

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 2>inches so They gave maddox a. Hard time he didn't

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 2>foul out on that pitch because he was in fair

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 2>territory by. Two inches so but, the KICKER which i did,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 2>not know Is That bobby cox will. It's Furious When

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>leo mazzoni came Back that, MADDICK said i don't Care what.

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Bobby says i'm not walking this. Guy intentionally and then

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 2>after he popped out of the, First pitch Chipper said

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>bobby was laughing his butt off in the dugout because,

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>he recognized WHY would i Ever Question greg maddox about something.

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Like this there's never been anybody quite.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Like him the only thing that would have made that

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.479
<v Speaker 1>story better Is If Scott van pelt had. Told him

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:34.800
<v Speaker 1>And THEN leo mazooni went to The Mound, Chipper jones.

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh god it's. So Bad what scott gave me his

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>all time oriole team with the long a's, in IT

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>and i thought he was done With A. Joe altabelli

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 2>then when he gave the pitch, A coach i just.

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>ALMOST laughed i. Almost Died, Leo, mazzoni yes that was, great.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Last but certainly not least the best.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Of all tim we're picking a different, Franchise, week dad

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you give us the best player in the history of.

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>That franchise what's the franchise?

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 2>THIS week, i mean this week Gets, the diamondbacks Because

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.240
<v Speaker 2>the diamondbacks are so much in the news these days

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>because supposedly they're going to sell at the. Trade deadline

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 2>They Have, Zach Gallon, merrill kelly and of Course Jo.

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Hainio suarez we talk About the diamondbacks almost, every DAY

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 2>so i figured let's do The greatest, diamondback ever and

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:27.040
<v Speaker 2>It Is. Randy johnson in his eight years With The diamondbacks,

0:33:27.120 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 2>jet one eighteen and, sixty two he had a two

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>eighty Three ra. He leveraged he averaged eleven point five

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>strikeouts per, nine innings which is ridiculously high for a.

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Starting pitcher and of course he won Four Straight cy

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Youngs And randy johns animal years and. Years, ago jeff

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 2>You Know randy johnson's six Foot Ten, rich donald my,

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>dear friend once told Me That randy johnson was so

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 2>tall that he didn't need a pickoff move to. Second

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 2>base he just reached out to tag. The runner that's

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 2>how tall And Long randy. Johnson was but he was

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.239
<v Speaker 2>a very he is a very, mercurial guy even though

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>he's a fabulous photographer, HERE now i can't wait to

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>talk to him and sit down with him and do

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 2>a podcast with him about what a. Great photographery we're

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>going to get him before the, Season's. Over JEFF but

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 2>i Did a sunday night conversation with him about this

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 2>had to be twenty. Years AGO so i just told

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>him before, WE started, I, said randy we're both going

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 2>to be standing up for, this interview and he thought

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that was the funniest, thing ever the thought of six

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>ten and four to ten interview being interviewed by a

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>four foot ten edge. Baseball writer so he laughed. Out

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 2>loud he was in the. Greatest mood he handled all

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the questions professionally as he, always did so it was.

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Really good and a bunch of my writer friends still

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:57.400
<v Speaker 2>call that still call that the stupidest interview in the history,

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 2>of television not because of the questions, the answers but

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 2>just because of. The optics Me Interviewing, RANDY johnson i

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>literally had to hold my arm straight up in the

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:10.239
<v Speaker 2>air and get on my tiptoes just to get the

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>microphone to. His mouth can you, Picture, That, Jeff.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh i've seen. THE photos i can picture in clear.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 1>As DAY and i got, to say when you were

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>At The All, star game they had you at the

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Desk With kevin connors And. Water Perez, kevin connors by,

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>the way, tall dude, he's.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Dude he's at least six, to two maybe. Six,' three.

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah and then they, got it right and then you've

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>got you on the. Right side there can we get

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>him an. Encyclopedia or something can we get him a

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>step soul, for goodness, Sake.

0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 2>It's bad JEFF they Want I interviewed frank Thomas, once

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<v Speaker 2>in baltimore and they wanted me to stand on, a

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<v Speaker 2>MILK carton so i was the same Height As. As,

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<v Speaker 2>Frank thomas look i'm very comfortable. With, MY size obviously

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>i mentioned it in every show. That we do you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be comfortable with. Who YOU are but I

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<v Speaker 2>told him i'm not standing on a milk Carton To.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview frank Thomas not because i'm EMBARRASSED how. Short i

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<v Speaker 2>am that's. Not the point it's gonna LOOK ridiculous that

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<v Speaker 2>i am the Same. Height As frank tim it's gonna look.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous at home we're only shooting from, the waist up

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't see me standing. On THIS thing, so

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<v Speaker 2>i said it's like THE only time i ever Told

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<v Speaker 2>a producer i'm not doing this because it would, look

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<v Speaker 2>so dumb because my friends at, home would go what's

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<v Speaker 2>he standing on like a step ladder in order to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Same Height, as frank thomas who. Is six,' five.

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<v Speaker 1>You know it's interesting i'm trying to get a read

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<v Speaker 1>on what you think where is your line when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to doing. Stupid things on television because you won't stand,

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<v Speaker 1>on a milk crate but you will get in a Sausage.

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>And run in milwaukee you will slide Down. The hill

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 1>at williamsport you're you're, prone to doing bits but the

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<v Speaker 1>milk crate was.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, much for you no, It's. Not a bit jeff

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<v Speaker 2>it is An. Artificial HIGH en hanser and. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>need that i don't. Want to do that and the

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<v Speaker 2>sausage race was the worst day of. My WHOLE life

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<v Speaker 2>professionally BUT i told. You i, did it mike MCCUAD,

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<v Speaker 2>our boss at espn told, me YOU'RE doing this and

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<v Speaker 2>I was afraid of mike. Mccuad at the time I'm still.

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<v Speaker 2>Afraid OF mike mcquad so i did what he told

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<v Speaker 2>me to do for fear that he might fire me

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<v Speaker 2>on the spot for not being the hot dog. In,

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<v Speaker 2>the sausage race well thank you to everybody for.

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<v Speaker 3>Catching up with us is this a?

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<v Speaker 1>Great game Or, What, Every, single tuesday wednesday thursday we

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<v Speaker 1>come out with a Brand new Episode of next week

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<v Speaker 1>We're Gonna Hear, from tony gwynn junior the son Of

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<v Speaker 1>The late The Great hall of Famer. Tony gwyn and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty amazing too because we Not Only Talk about tony,

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 1>gwinn junior's playing career but we Also Looked Back at

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Tony gwynn's hall of fame induction weekend almost, twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>Ago Now And where tony gwinn, junior was for that

0:37:58.320 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>how pregnant his.

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<v Speaker 3>Wife was for that it was a lot going, on,

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<v Speaker 3>In That.

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<v Speaker 2>Interview right tony jr is just like his dad. In

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<v Speaker 2>so many ways his voice is, identical to his, father

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<v Speaker 2>but you know his personality and everything. Is the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so easy. Going he's so funny he's. Just Like

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<v Speaker 2>his Dad And. I'm hoping tony Jr will be. In cooperstown,

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<v Speaker 2>this Weekend maybe not, But, I'm GOING there jeff and

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<v Speaker 2>i can't stress this enough How magical. A place cooperstown

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 2>is it. Is just ludicrously charming to walk, down that

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<v Speaker 2>Main street, especially on induction weekend it is the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>three days. You could possibly spend, You've never been there you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to go there if you Can't go, there for

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<v Speaker 2>induction weekend go any other time where it's less crowded and,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:48.399
<v Speaker 2>spend a week there or spend a. Couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>there it'll be ABSOLUTELY stunningly good and i can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait to go tomorrow thank you, so much for, listening

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<v Speaker 1>and as always thank you for being a.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of our family

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<v Speaker 2>Fi