1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: of Fame or Tim Kirkshin I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshen 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: And Dad, tomorrow you leave to go up to Cooperstown 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: for Hall of Fame induction weekend. Your favorite weekend of 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: the year, no doubt about it. And yesterday, Dad, we 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: had on the show Billy Wagner, who's one of the 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: many players being inducted into the Hall this weekend. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Right, and Billy was hilariously funny on our podcast. And 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: as you know, Jeff, we got into an argument because 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: I made him wasn't an argument. I made a mistake. 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: I thought I got mixed up between a groundhog and 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: a woodchuck what Billy used to eat as a kid 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: in rural Virginia. So Joel Oh sent us something to 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: our great game or what email today saying love the 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: show Fellas, But a ground hog and a woodchuck are 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: the exact same animals. So I don't know if that's 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: true or not. All I know is I'm learning something 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: as we go along here, thanks in part to Billy Wagner. 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: Makes sense. 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a quick google, Dad, and it says, yes, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: a groundhog and a woodchuck are the same animal. Both 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: are common names for the rodent marmada monics. The different 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: names are from regional variations in language, depending on how 24 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: people describe it. So maybe maybe that's how in rural 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Virginia how they would say it is a woodchuck or 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: a groundhog, and we would call it. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: A wood chuck, even though you and I both grew 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: up in Maryland. 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: Right, And I think it is part of the problem 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: is I got the two animals mixed up because I'm 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: making ground chuck tonight for dinner, which I thought it 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: seems to be a right that was really bad? 33 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 3: All right, well that was not bad. 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: But I will say one guest I want to have 35 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: is Chuck Barkley, Charles Chuck Barkley. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: I would love to have on the show. What do 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: you think about that. 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: We're gonna work on that as we get closer to 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: the basketball season. If we can get the chuck wagon 40 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: the bread truck on it would be the greatest thing ever. So, Jeff, 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: I have to share something. I had a bit of 42 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: a it's not a complaint, but a bit of a 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: challenge on one of the one of the lists that 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 2: I come up with, which I come up with all 45 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 2: the time, and I repeat, they're my lists. I don't 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: pretend they're the correct list. But this and it wasn't 47 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: a nausie to oral, and it wasn't a best of 48 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: all tim it was The Mary Tyler Moore Show is 49 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: better than the Dick Van Dyke Show. That that was 50 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: the complaint I got from a friend. As you know, 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: I gave my top five sitcoms of all time a 52 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Not like any of this is important. 53 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: Get Smart's one, All the Family two, Dick Van Dyke 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: is three, Seinfeld's four Cheers is five. And let's be clear, Jeff, 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: the Mary Tyler Moore Show is the sixth greatest sitcom 56 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: of all time on my list, sixth greatest ever. It's 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: pretty impressive. And I've told you that Baxter, Ted Baxter, 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: you know the you know, the knucklehead newsman who does 59 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: the you know, the anchors the news. They are much 60 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: like Walter Kronkite did. My favorite episode is when the 61 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: real Walter Cronkite, the greatest TV newsman in the history 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: of our country, is actually on the show as himself 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: and Ted meets him. The first thing Ted says to 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Walter Cronkite is Walter. What words do you have trouble pronouncing? 65 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: He asked that the most respected news anchor in the 66 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: history of the world. Oh God, so bad. 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Well, jokes aside, Dad, I'm a radio host of ten 68 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: years just celebrated my this is now ten year anniversary. 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 3: How crazy is that? 70 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: Wait, Jeff straight out of Syracuse Straight to Cleveland, had 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: your own show Vegas, Philadelphia. Really impressed, really kind of crazy. Yeah, 72 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: really impressed, Joff. 73 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: One of two words that I hate to say the 74 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: most in the radio, or one we've already said four 75 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: times on this podcast. 76 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: Rule rule Right. It's a hard word. 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Hate that word that and brewery brewery right, I hate that. 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: And you know another one is a golfer who just 79 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: had quite the weekend. 80 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: Rory, Rory. 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I have trouble saying those words, and I think it's 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: mostly because they're just like rolling. 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: Over a couple sounds, right, Rory, there's not a letter in. 84 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: There right that that that middle R is troublesome. I understand. 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Theater is something that I'm not real good at and 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: I always and I'm a writer, Jeff, I always have 87 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: to think how to spell the word rhythm, because I 88 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: usually get it wrong. I don't have a system on 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: how to spell the word rhythm. It's only six letters, 90 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: and I still have a little bit of trouble with 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: Isn't that weird? Now? 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Rhythm is a strange one because there's a th h 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: and a y and it's two whys. 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always have to think, am I am I 95 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: spelling this properly? I have to get some sort of 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: system to remember that it's a relatively simple word. But 97 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: these are the things that bother me and keep me 98 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: up at night. 99 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: Sho, I feel so stupid. There's only one why r 100 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 1: H Y t. 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: H M right, Yeah, gosh, I had to think that 102 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: through all right. 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: Now you're gonna curse me with that, dad, Now I'm 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: going to struggle with rhythm every time. I mean, I'm 105 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: pretty good with rhythm, Yes, Jeff, you have great rhythm. 106 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: You are a great dancer, which I can't understand how 107 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: I am so bad at that and you are so 108 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: good at that when I'm your father, I don't know 109 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: how you get natural rhythm. I just know I don't 110 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: have it and I will never have it. 111 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: And that's okay. It's just I don't think you can 112 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: teach something. It's like asking me to be taller. That's 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, not gonna happen for me either, trust me. 115 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: All Right, Dad, Well, we're going to get to each 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: of the inductees going into the Coopersound Hall of Fame 117 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: this Sunday, But I know you have some other takeaways 118 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: that you want to get too. 119 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: First, right, just just quickly, Rich Hill, age forty five, 120 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: I've started for the Kansas City Royals on Tuesday night. 121 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: So it's the fourteenth team for which he has played, 122 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: ties Edwin Jackson for the most teams that any Major 123 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: League teams any pitcher has ever worked for. Also, they 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: both wore ten different uniform numbers, so I guess you know, 125 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: when you switch teams as often as they do, you 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: can't just roll in and say, hey, I'm used to 127 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: wearing forty four. You know, it doesn't always work that way. 128 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,119 Speaker 2: Ten different uniform numbers. He started his career in two 129 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 2: thousand and five, pitching in relief for the Cubs, that was, 130 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: and the starting pitcher that day was Greg Maddox, which 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: is just really cool. Greg Maddox is fifty nine years 132 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: old now, and Rich Hill first game that he pitched in. 133 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: The starter on his team was Greg Maddox. That's kind 134 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 2: of cool, right, Dad. 135 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Think about how long ago two thousand and five was. Okay, 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: that was the year that YouTube started. Okay, that was 137 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago that YouTube started. 138 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: Hope. 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: John Paul the Second's death was in two thousand and five. 140 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: Is he the White Sox fan? 141 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: No, that's the one we just got. Yeah, that's the 142 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: one we just got. 143 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean, just thinking about how different the world was. 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: Remember what our cell phones looked like in two thousand 145 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: and five, Dad, everybody had still like the Nokia bricks. 146 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: That's how long Rich Hill has been in the. 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: League, right, and he's still going and he actually pitched 148 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: okay on on Tuesday Night. Just another reminder. If you 149 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: have a great curveball and you know what you're doing 150 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: with the art of pitching, you can get by. 151 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: And the biggest difference, Dad, is in two thousand and five, 152 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago White Sox won the World Series and in 153 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, Yeah, well they're actually playing a little 154 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: bit better. 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: Okay. Speaking of pitching, Jeff Clay Thompson, one of the 156 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: great shooters of all time. Throughout the first ball at 157 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: a baseball game the other day and looked pretty good 158 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: doing it. Well, it's not a surprise. His brother, of course, 159 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: is Trace Thompson, who's played in the Major League for 160 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: a bunch of years on and off. And I want 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: to ask Trace, like, how good a basketball player were you? 162 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: And he said I was pretty good, but not compared 163 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: to his brother. I said, did Clay play baseball? And 164 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: he goes, yeah. He was our leadoff hitter on our 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: high school team. He was like six'. Four he was 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 2: the leadoff. Hitter he didn't have much, power but he 167 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: could run and he could do. Something so when we 168 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 2: saw him throw the first ball and looked athletic doing 169 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: he should because he's a great. Athlete but as we, Know, 170 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: jeff not every basketball football player goes to the mound 171 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: and throws an athletic. STRIKE i was impressed With Clay, 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 2: thompson AND i Asked trey, once what's it like when 173 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 2: you go shoot with your brother? Now and he, goes 174 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: it's just. RIDICULOUS i feed. Him he stands in the 175 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: corner and he makes like twenty five straight three. Pointers 176 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: and that's what great shooters, Do, jeff. 177 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Shades Of John. Wall remember when he threw out a 178 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: first pitch at A nationals. Game, yeah not, good not, understatemle, right, 179 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: YEAH i mean the man was the heck of an, 180 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: athlete very GOOD nba player and then, right but. 181 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: He never played baseball, before and if you've never played 182 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: the game, before you're not going to be able to 183 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 2: throw a baseball particularly, well it's just. 184 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: Swaying it looked Like Uncle rico throwing a. 185 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i BET i could throw this football over that. 186 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: Mountain it's so, bad all, right speaking of throwing a baseball, 187 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: Jet Paul skeene's got to win the other. Day he's 188 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: the best pitcher in The National league and probably the 189 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: second best pitcher in baseball To Trek skouobl at the. 190 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 2: Moment but now he's got five. Victories SO i just 191 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: went looking for guys who have AN era under two 192 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: at the end of a SEASON era under two fewer 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: than ten, victories which is possibility For Paul skeens this 194 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: year because they don't ever score him any runs in 195 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: a season of one hundred and seventy five. Innings so 196 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: it's only been four, times and the last time it 197 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: was done was by someone in nineteen oh. Nine so 198 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: If Paul skeins has AN era under, two WHICH i 199 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: think he, will and has fewer than ten, wins WHICH 200 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: i hope is not the, case because for his, sake 201 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 2: he deserves to win twenty games with the way he's. 202 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 2: Pitching he'll be the fifth guy ever to do. That 203 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: do you find that interesting at? 204 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: ALL i find it, shocking AND i feel bad for 205 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: all those, pitchers probably none of them taking home any 206 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: hardware because the team was so. 207 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Bad right, Right, Okay, jeff onto The hall Of. Fame 208 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: we have five guys being inducted On. Sunday what a 209 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: great day this will be in baseball and love Induction. 210 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 2: Sunday so we'll start with each. Row and he won THE, 211 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: mvp he won Ten Gold, gloves made Ten All star, 212 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: teams got three thousand and eighty nine. Hits first ten. 213 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: Years jef two hundred hits each. Year only player to 214 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: do that set the record in two thousand and four 215 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: with two hundred and sixty two. Hits last, YEAR i 216 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: did a speech With Mike, messina And Mike messina looked at, 217 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 2: me as we're at the, day it's just, talking he, Goes, 218 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: GOD i hated facing a. Row he would just foul it, 219 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: off and foul it, off and foul it off until 220 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 2: he hit the ball. Hard Like that's how good he. 221 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 2: Was he was capable of spoiling good pitches until he 222 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: found one that he could hit really. Hard AND i told, You, 223 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: jeff he hit a bouncing. Ball ball bounced in front 224 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: of home. Plate he hit it off of one hop 225 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 2: and lined the single to. Center SO i Called Pat 226 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: gillick the next, day and he was THE gm of The. 227 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: MARINERS i, Said, pat what was? That he, Goes, oh 228 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: he used to practice that In japan all the, time 229 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: practiced hitting a bouncing. Ball that's what great great hitters. 230 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: Do he was also a great defensive, outfielder one of 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: the greatest throwing Arms i've ever. Seen but his, bat 232 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: his bats were his calling card more than. Anything and 233 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: he protected his. Bats. Jeff he never like threw his 234 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: bats around or slammed it. In he once told, me he, 235 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: said my bad are like a carpenter's favorite. Hammer you 236 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: don't throw your favorite hammer. Around you don't throw your bats. 237 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Around he protected. THEM i love. 238 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: THAT i love, that and well Deserved hall Of fame, 239 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 3: member each. Hero This sunday RIGHT. C. 240 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: C sabathia is also going. In of, course when you 241 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: look at, wins winning percentage and, strikeouts the only guys 242 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: who can match those three numbers FOR Cc sabathia Are Randy, 243 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: Johnson Roger, Clements tom Sever Justin, berlander And Greg. Maddox 244 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: and the only left handers with more strikeouts THAN. C. 245 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: C sabathi in the history of baseball Are Randy johnson 246 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 2: And Steve. Carlton pretty, cool And i've also had a 247 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: Relie JEFF. C. C sabathi is the greatest player ever 248 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: to go by his initials and of course our Boy 249 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 2: Billy wagner's going. In he was a great interview. Yesterday 250 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: the only sets you need to know about him for his, career, 251 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: well he saved four in twenty two. Games he averaged 252 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: eleven point nine strikeouts per nine innings for his, career 253 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: and for every nine innings pitched he allowed six. Hits 254 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: so he has the lowest, total lowest hit per nine 255 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 2: inning total of anyone who ever pitched more than nine 256 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: hundred innings in The Big leagues two thirty one. Era 257 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: it just shows you how difficult it was to Hit 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: Billy wagner in his, prime. 259 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: No, doubt an amazing guest once, again if you didn't 260 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: listen to the episode, yesterday make sure to do. So 261 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: just go back one episode and soak it in because 262 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: he's getting super excited for this. 263 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 3: Weekend. 264 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: Right and of course two guys who went in through 265 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: a special, committee but they're Still hall Of, famers Because 266 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: Dick allen should have been A hall Of famer a 267 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: long time. Ago, jeff go back and look at that 268 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: rookie season, Sometime oh my, gosh one of the great 269 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: rookie seasons of all, time and his eleven year, prime 270 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: which was nineteen sixty four through seventy, four he had 271 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: the highest offensive war in baseball and there wasn't a 272 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: close second during that time and the full span of his. 273 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,239 Speaker 2: Career the only player who had a higher slugging percentage 274 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: and ops Was Hank. Aaron that's how Great Dick allen, 275 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: was and he should have been in a long time. 276 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: Ago and our last, guy of course Is Dave, parker 277 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: whose five year stretch he was basically the best player 278 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: in baseball was nineteen seventy eight season was one of 279 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: the greats of all, time won a Batting championship two 280 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: years in a. Row elite defensive outfield or one of 281 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: the great throwing Arms i've ever. Seen and As i've told, You, 282 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: jeff he used to wear a star Of david around his. 283 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 2: Neck why did he do? That what was his? Explanation 284 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i asked him, once. 285 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: Because my name Is david And i'm a. 286 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: Star, exactly very cool and so so sadly we Lost 287 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: Dave parker a month or so ago To parkinson's. Disease 288 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: he will not be there On, sunday but he will 289 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: get a rousing ovation from all those because everyone knew 290 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: how great the cobro. 291 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Was all, Right, dad let's jump right into our quirkchins 292 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: of what's going on In Major League baseball that you're. 293 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: Seeing, Okay, Jeff so at ten o'clock ten thirty the 294 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: other night you called me frantically to ask me what 295 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: about The phillies. Game, well they ended on a walk 296 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: off catcher's interference in the bottom of the tenth. 297 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: Inning And i'm like, this this has never happened. 298 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: Before it. Can't so the last time it, Happened, jeff 299 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: which it's, Amazing i'm surprised it. HAPPENED i don't even 300 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: remember this. Time but in nineteen seventy, one The dodgers 301 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: were playing The, reds and The dodgers scored on a 302 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: walk off catcher's. Interference Manny moto was the third bases, 303 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: Loaded Willie crawford was at the plate And Willy crawford 304 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: hit the midt of the, catcher who happened to be 305 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy One Reds jeff our favorite, guy And Johnny. 306 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: Bench it Was Johnny. Bench SO i Called John bed 307 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: yesterday and he's just started yelling at, me which he. 308 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: Does he's just. Kidding BUT i, said you know WHY 309 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: i am. Calling he, GOES i THINK i know why you're, 310 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: calling and he, said the ball was already in my 311 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: catcher's mitt When Willie crawford swung the. Bat it's the 312 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: worst call, ever he, Said but this is what The 313 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: dodgers would, do and he was being very. Complimentary, actually 314 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: they would do whatever it took to win a. Game 315 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: so he claims the ball was already in his catcher's 316 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: mitt When Willie crawford started the swing and hit the catcher's. 317 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: Mitt for catcher's, interference which is again, automatic everyone advances 318 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: one base error on the catcher and no time at 319 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: bat for the. Hitter So johnny, bess do you think 320 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: they's seventy? One do you think they sent it back 321 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: To New york for revealed, well and of course The 322 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: Red sox had a catcher's interference in the first inning 323 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: of the next. Game double check With frank from The. 324 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Lives first time since nineteen sixty. One that's the farthest 325 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: thing can go back and be absolutely certain of. Things 326 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: that's the first time since nineteen sixty one that a 327 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: team had catcher's interference in consecutive innings like, that even 328 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: though they were over a span of. 329 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Two, games bottom of the, tenth bottom of the, first 330 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: it was. UNBELIEVABLE i shocked. 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: It SO i just finished our quick conversation With Johnny 332 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 2: bench by just, saying you, Know i'll see you In. 333 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: Cooperstown can't. Wait and then he, started as a tribute 334 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: to Each, row he started Speaking. JAPANESE i, said, What, 335 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: johnny you can Speak. Japanese he, goes. Yeah we went 336 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: there on a like a tour in nineteen seventy eight 337 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: in the. Offseason he, said we played seventeen games and 338 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: he learned a bunch Of japanese, phrases which HE i 339 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 2: thought he was making them. Up how AM i going 340 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: to know the. DIFFERENCE i can't speak at a word Of. 341 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: Japanese So johnny played seventeen games over there and hit 342 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: nine home runs in seventeen. Games and he, said every 343 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: TIME i if An american board player hit a home, 344 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: run he got ten thousand yen for each home, run 345 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: and he got like a load of candy for every 346 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: home run that he. Hit SO i GOT i got 347 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: ninety thousand yen a Nine and he, Said so my 348 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: nickname In japan was Candy, man because every TIME i 349 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: got the, CANDY i gave it to other people. There 350 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: so that's That's Johnny bench's nickname In japan is Candy. 351 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Man AND i did not know that story until. Yesterday 352 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 2: isn't this Typical Johnny? Bench he tells you, Something you, 353 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: Go how COULD i have known you for this? Long 354 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: you never told me that. 355 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 3: Story he always had something up his. 356 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: Sleep oh he's, great all. Right so we had a 357 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: really cool thing happened the other. Day jeff Sho Hey, 358 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: o'tani hitting second in the order and pitching that, game 359 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: hit a home run and gave up a home run 360 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: in the first. Inning how cool is? That? So Former 361 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: phillies Pitcher Randy, lurch really really good hitting, pitcher was 362 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: the last guy to do, it and he did it 363 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: On may, seventeenth nineteen seventy. Nine And, jeff this was 364 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: in the game where The phillies beat The cubs twenty 365 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: three to twenty two in ten, innings one of the 366 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: most famous games In Major league. History So Randy lurch 367 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 2: is batting in the top of the first. Inning he's 368 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: already facing a reliever Because dennis lamp has been knocked 369 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: out of the. Game he's facing a, Reliever Donnie, moore 370 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: and he hits a homer off Of Donnie moore in 371 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: the first. Inning so Now Randy lurch goes out to 372 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: pitch the bottom of the first. Inning he gives up 373 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: a home run To Dave. Kingman he gives up a 374 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: bunch more, runs and they take about after six. Batters 375 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: so he started and the starting pitcher didn't win a 376 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: third of an. Inning Randy lurch went a third of 377 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 2: an inning and then they got him out of the. 378 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: Game he was the last pitcher to hit a home 379 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: run and give up a homer in the first. Inning And, 380 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: jeff just just a note about that twenty three to 381 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: twenty two. Game Mike schmidt told this story many years. Later, 382 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: so back at the Old Wrigley field before they upgraded, 383 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: it they didn't have like a. Score they had like 384 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: the old scoreboard that didn't have the running totals of the. 385 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: Game so in like the eighth, Inning Mike schmidt gets 386 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: the third base and he Asks mick kellerher the third 387 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 2: basement for The. Cubs as he's looking up at all 388 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: these runs, scored and he says to mc, kellerher what's 389 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: the score of the? Game because he didn't have time, 390 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: to like or he couldn't count them all, up that's 391 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: how many runs had been. Scored but you know now 392 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: with an electronics, scoreboard it, says you, know it's eighteen 393 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: to seventeen or twenty one to twenty or whatever it. 394 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 2: Was he asked the third, basement what's the score of the? 395 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: GAME i love? That that is so oh. Great Hayden 396 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: Bird song of The giants had a difficult start the other. 397 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 2: Day twenty five, pitches six of them were. Strikes SO 398 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: i Called frank from The alias and, said when's the 399 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: last time anybody did something had that bad of a? 400 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: Control and the answer is in twenty twenty, One Tyler 401 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: chatwood through twenty five, pitches seven, strikes so that was 402 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 2: the last time any pitcher threw twenty five pitches in 403 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 2: a game and seventy five percent of them or more were. 404 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: Balls Brayce lewis of The twins had this Line. Jeff 405 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: four at, bats one run, scored no, hits three, RBIs 406 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: so he knocked in three runs without getting a. Hit 407 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: the Last twin to do that Was Nick punto in 408 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 2: two thousand and. Six so it's been a, while but 409 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: it reminds me of maybe my, favorite my favorite box 410 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: score line of all. Time Ben, petrick who used to 411 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: be a catcher in the big. Leagues he had a 412 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Game jeff where he had three at, bats no, runs no, 413 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: hits four, RBIs so he had a three zero zero. 414 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: FOUR i asked him about it and he, said you know, 415 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: WHAT i went after the. Game i'm thinking to, myself, 416 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: YEAH i had a bad day. Today and then he, 417 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: said and THEN i looked at the box score and, said, 418 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: hey had a pretty good. Day he drove in four 419 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: runs without getting a. Hit does that amaze? You? 420 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: Yeah so is he sacrifice? 421 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Fly probably one of them for not to look it, 422 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: up but it's like sacrifice fly, bases load of, walk two, 423 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 2: groundouts four RBIs without getting a. Hit, wow it's. Unbelievable all, right, 424 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: now this is how BAD i, Am jeff this morning 425 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: Or wednesday. Morning i'm reading the box scores this time 426 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: at five o'clock in the morning with a diet mountain, 427 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: dew AND i look at. THAT i look at The 428 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: Mariner brewer game one to. Nothing The mariners beat The, 429 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: brewers and the leadoff, Guy brice terrank great defensive second, 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: basement goes zero four with four. Strikeouts so he's the 431 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: twenty fifth time this year that a leadoff guy has 432 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: struck out four times in a. Game i've been charting 433 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: this all. Year the shortstop for the other, TEAM Jp, 434 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: crawford he hit, leadoff so he went over four with 435 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: a strikeout and two grounded into double. Plays so the 436 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: two leadoff guys in that game went over eight with 437 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: five strikeouts and two grounded into double. Plays so this intrigues. 438 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: Me can there possibly be another game in baseball? History 439 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: and we played for one hundred and fifty. Years, well 440 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: as it turns, out there's never been a game like. This, 441 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: now keep in, mind jeb gidps were an official stat 442 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty one in The National league nineteen forty 443 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 2: in The American. League But frank from The elias confirmed 444 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: that's the first time since gidps became official in both 445 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: leagues that the two leadoff guys went over eight with 446 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: five strikeouts and two grounded into. 447 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: Double that's not where you want to be coming up 448 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: next here on is this a great? Game or what 449 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: we've got on this state in baseball? History the best 450 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: number thirty and number thirty one FOR ossi to oral 451 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: and best of all ten coming up? 452 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: Next all, right, dad on this date baseball. History july 453 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 3: the twenty. 454 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: Fourth, right nineteen eighty three was the famous pine tar. 455 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: Game George brett hit a home run in the ninth 456 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: innen to put The royals ahead of The. Yankees he 457 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 2: hit it off Of Goose Gossage Billy martin on a 458 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: recommendation from his third, Baseman Greg nettles, said go check the. 459 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Bat there's too much pine tar on the. Bat the 460 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: umpires homeplate Umpire tim McClellan, said, yes there's too much 461 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: pine tar on this. Bat they measured it and they 462 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: Called George brett. Out so instead of hitting a home, 463 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: run he was called out for having too much pine 464 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: tar on the. Bat so The royals lost the, game 465 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: but they, protested of, course And lee, McPhail the president 466 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: of The American, league overruled and, said, no that is 467 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: not too much pine. Tar the home run, counts and 468 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: now The royals have a five to four over The. 469 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: Yankees so On august the, eighteenth so this is you, 470 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: know a few weeks, later they go back and play 471 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: the ninth inning At Yankee stadium And Billy, martin the 472 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: angry manager of The, yankees is so upset that they 473 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 2: have that it's been overturned that he Played Ron guidry 474 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: for that one, inning his best pitcher in center, field 475 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: And Don, mattingley his left handed first baseman at second, 476 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: base because he, said this is a farce that we 477 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: have to play. This Dan quizenberry came in the, closer 478 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: pitched one inning clean bottom of the ninth games Over 479 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: royals win five Before George brett didn't even go to the. 480 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: Ballpark he told me he was in a hotel. Room 481 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: he didn't even go to the park because what's the, 482 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: point you, KNOW i just hit a. HOMER i don't 483 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: want to be a part of all. This so he 484 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: was sitting in his hotel room watching the end of 485 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: The Pine tar game when The royals closed it. Out, 486 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: jeff one of the great. Game, yeah one of the 487 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 2: most famous games of all. 488 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: Time, well you always remember him flying out of the 489 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: dugout like that's just such a core memory of how 490 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: angry he. 491 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: Was, Right and, however we don't hear the inning being 492 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 3: played again very. 493 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: Often, Right AND i Asked, george of course about this many. 494 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: Times but he, said do you know how Big tim McClellan. 495 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: Is he's six.' six he's way BIGGER than. I have, 496 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: HE Said i i've running. Out there i've never been 497 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: so angry in. My Life but, i'm thinking what do 498 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: you do in charge of? This guy he's way bigger. 499 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: Than you That Was, george brett always always great and, Last. 500 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 2: Thing jeff on, This Date barry bond's birthday turned sixty 501 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: one years. Old today three greatest hitters of. All time 502 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: in order for me again we have to forget a 503 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: bunch of. THINGS here i don't want any huge. Angry, 504 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: arguments here three Greatest hitters i've, ever seen OR that 505 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: i think are the three. Greatest Hitters, Babe Ruth Ted Williams. 506 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: Berry bonds. That's it that's. 507 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: The list, all right let's jump Into from ozzie. 508 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: To orl you're giving us the best player each, number today. Number, 509 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: Thirty right this. 510 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: Is hard Because It's nolan ryan who wore number thirty 511 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: and also wore number, Thirty FOUR so i wasn't sure 512 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: what to, do There so i'm jumping off Here With 513 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: nolan ryan is the greatest number thirty of. All time 514 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: with Apologies To, Tim Rains, orlando cepaida and a. Few, 515 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 2: others Okay But nolan ryan wore number thirty Four that 516 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: matt's And, the angels and With the angels he had 517 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: a three point zero seventy ra struck out twenty four 518 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: hundred and. Sixteen guys the, most important he threw four 519 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: no hitters as a member Of the angels two and, 520 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: seventy three one and, seventy four one and. Seventy five 521 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: so no one's thrown more than four. No, hitters ever he, 522 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: threw seven and four of them came With. The angels 523 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: and if anyone asks You Who nolan, Ryan, Is jeff 524 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 2: he's the hardest pitcher to Hit In major. League history 525 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: he is the greatest power pitcher of. All time, and 526 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: uh he's one Of the he threw a baseball as 527 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: hard as any man alive for twenty. Five years That's 528 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: that's it's like being the world's fastest human for twenty. 529 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 2: Five years usually last about. Five years, With That nolan 530 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: ryan was incredible for his. Entire CAREER and i. 531 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: Think the craziest thing to this day is the fact 532 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: that he never want to. Cy young it just blows. 533 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: My, mind right, it's amazing and he had a couple 534 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 2: opportunities and. He didn't what's My Favorite nolan. Ryan's story 535 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: i've told it to. You before remember when We ad 536 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 2: let's see if you can remember. The Punchline rance Mallinick's 537 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: third basement For The blue jays was, asked once what 538 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: would the world be like if Everyone Was. Nolan ryan 539 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 2: what did? 540 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: He say, he said everybody would be happier and nobody 541 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: would get. 542 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: A hit. 543 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: I think it. 544 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: Was exactly everyone would love each other and no one 545 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: Loved get. That's, right jeff am proud. Of you you 546 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 2: remembered Something From rance Malini's and i've told that story a. 547 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: Few times thank you. For remembering that was. 548 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Very cool there's a couple of stories that you Tell 549 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: that i've kind of been ingrained in, my head like 550 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: THE one i always remember. Dad Is In new york 551 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: they named a candy Bar After, reggie jackson But in 552 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: baltimore we name our Kids After. 553 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: Brooks robinson that one ingrained, in, There. 554 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: Right and i'm glad you, Remember, that Jeff Because reggie 555 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Jackson And brooks robinson share. A birthday how cool? 556 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: Is that did you Know That walter johnson Died on, 557 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: december tenth nineteen forty Six And tim kirkshon was Born on, 558 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: december tenth nineteen, fifty six and he Went To Walter Johnson. 559 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: High school he Wrote For. The pitch he Wrote for The, 560 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: WIND up. 561 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: I have i have. POISONED you, I have I have i've, Heard. 562 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: You jeff for you to be remembering these things, Like 563 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: This i'm. I'm sorry number, Thirty one number, Thirty one 564 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: this is Really. Not wow this was easy Because It's 565 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: greg maddox Now Again, ferguson Jenkins another Hall, Of famer war, 566 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: thirty one also For. The Cubs the cubs retired thirty 567 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: One for Maddox And, fergy jenkins which is. Pretty Cool 568 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: But greg maddox won three hundred and fifty. Five, games 569 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: jeff he had a THREE sixteen era in five thousand and. Eight, 570 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: innings okay he walked nine hundred and ninety nine batters 571 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: in his career in five thousand and. Eight Innings And 572 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 2: derek lowe told me that he played Golf with Maddox 573 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: and maddox told him. The story, HE said i had 574 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: three starts left in my major league CAREER because I 575 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 2: knew i was retiring at the end of. The year and, 576 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: HE said i didn't walk anyone the last, three Stars 577 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: because i'll be Damned if i'm going to have one 578 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: thousand walks on my record In The. Baseball encyclopedia that's 579 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: how important control Was To. Greg, Maddox, jeff jeff he 580 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: is the greatest control pitcher of. All time he is 581 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 2: the smartest pitcher by FAR that i have ever. Been 582 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 2: around they just tell story after story after story about what, 583 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: a magician what, a robot what. A Professor greg maddox 584 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: was on. The mound do you Remember The chipper jones 585 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: story that. He TOLD remember i told the story that 586 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: they were going To take maddox out of, a game a, 587 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: playoff Game And leo mazzoni came to. The, Mound Well 588 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: bobby cox came to the mound to take, him Out 589 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: And greg, Maddock said i'm not. COMING out i got. 590 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: This guy he's going to foul Out To chipper jones 591 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: on the. First, PITCH well i got the story. Somewhat 592 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: wrong chipper. Retold it you remember how he. Retold It, 593 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: leo mazzoni the, pitching coach went to the mound to 594 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 2: Tell him bobby wants you to walk this, guy Intentionally, 595 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: And maddix i'm not walking. HIM intentionally i Got this 596 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: he's going to foul Out to chipper on the. First 597 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: pitch first pitch he pops Out To chipper jones on the. 598 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: First pitch chipper was in fair territory by like, two 599 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: inches so They gave maddox a. Hard time he didn't 600 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: foul out on that pitch because he was in fair 601 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: territory by. Two inches so but, the KICKER which i did, 602 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 2: not know Is That bobby cox will. It's Furious When 603 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: leo mazzoni came Back that, MADDICK said i don't Care what. 604 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 2: Bobby says i'm not walking this. Guy intentionally and then 605 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 2: after he popped out of the, First pitch Chipper said 606 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: bobby was laughing his butt off in the dugout because, 607 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: he recognized WHY would i Ever Question greg maddox about something. 608 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: Like this there's never been anybody quite. 609 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: Like him the only thing that would have made that 610 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 1: story better Is If Scott van pelt had. Told him 611 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: And THEN leo mazooni went to The Mound, Chipper jones. 612 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh god it's. So Bad what scott gave me his 613 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: all time oriole team with the long a's, in IT 614 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: and i thought he was done With A. Joe altabelli 615 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: then when he gave the pitch, A coach i just. 616 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 2: ALMOST laughed i. Almost Died, Leo, mazzoni yes that was, great. 617 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: Last but certainly not least the best. 618 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: Of all tim we're picking a different, Franchise, week dad 619 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: you give us the best player in the history of. 620 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: That franchise what's the franchise? 621 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: THIS week, i mean this week Gets, the diamondbacks Because 622 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 2: the diamondbacks are so much in the news these days 623 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: because supposedly they're going to sell at the. Trade deadline 624 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 2: They Have, Zach Gallon, merrill kelly and of Course Jo. 625 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: Hainio suarez we talk About the diamondbacks almost, every DAY 626 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: so i figured let's do The greatest, diamondback ever and 627 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: It Is. Randy johnson in his eight years With The diamondbacks, 628 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 2: jet one eighteen and, sixty two he had a two 629 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: eighty Three ra. He leveraged he averaged eleven point five 630 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 2: strikeouts per, nine innings which is ridiculously high for a. 631 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: Starting pitcher and of course he won Four Straight cy 632 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: Youngs And randy johns animal years and. Years, ago jeff 633 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: You Know randy johnson's six Foot Ten, rich donald my, 634 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: dear friend once told Me That randy johnson was so 635 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 2: tall that he didn't need a pickoff move to. Second 636 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: base he just reached out to tag. The runner that's 637 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: how tall And Long randy. Johnson was but he was 638 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 2: a very he is a very, mercurial guy even though 639 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,840 Speaker 2: he's a fabulous photographer, HERE now i can't wait to 640 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: talk to him and sit down with him and do 641 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: a podcast with him about what a. Great photographery we're 642 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: going to get him before the, Season's. Over JEFF but 643 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: i Did a sunday night conversation with him about this 644 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: had to be twenty. Years AGO so i just told 645 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: him before, WE started, I, said randy we're both going 646 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 2: to be standing up for, this interview and he thought 647 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: that was the funniest, thing ever the thought of six 648 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: ten and four to ten interview being interviewed by a 649 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: four foot ten edge. Baseball writer so he laughed. Out 650 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 2: loud he was in the. Greatest mood he handled all 651 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: the questions professionally as he, always did so it was. 652 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: Really good and a bunch of my writer friends still 653 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 2: call that still call that the stupidest interview in the history, 654 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 2: of television not because of the questions, the answers but 655 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: just because of. The optics Me Interviewing, RANDY johnson i 656 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 2: literally had to hold my arm straight up in the 657 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 2: air and get on my tiptoes just to get the 658 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: microphone to. His mouth can you, Picture, That, Jeff. 659 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 3: Oh i've seen. THE photos i can picture in clear. 660 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: As DAY and i got, to say when you were 661 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: At The All, star game they had you at the 662 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Desk With kevin connors And. Water Perez, kevin connors by, 663 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: the way, tall dude, he's. 664 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 2: Dude he's at least six, to two maybe. Six,' three. 665 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah and then they, got it right and then you've 666 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: got you on the. Right side there can we get 667 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: him an. Encyclopedia or something can we get him a 668 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: step soul, for goodness, Sake. 669 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: It's bad JEFF they Want I interviewed frank Thomas, once 670 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: in baltimore and they wanted me to stand on, a 671 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: MILK carton so i was the same Height As. As, 672 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: Frank thomas look i'm very comfortable. With, MY size obviously 673 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 2: i mentioned it in every show. That we do you 674 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: have to be comfortable with. Who YOU are but I 675 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: told him i'm not standing on a milk Carton To. 676 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: Interview frank Thomas not because i'm EMBARRASSED how. Short i 677 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: am that's. Not the point it's gonna LOOK ridiculous that 678 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 2: i am the Same. Height As frank tim it's gonna look. 679 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: Ridiculous at home we're only shooting from, the waist up 680 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: so you can't see me standing. On THIS thing, so 681 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 2: i said it's like THE only time i ever Told 682 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: a producer i'm not doing this because it would, look 683 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: so dumb because my friends at, home would go what's 684 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: he standing on like a step ladder in order to 685 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: be the Same Height, as frank thomas who. Is six,' five. 686 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: You know it's interesting i'm trying to get a read 687 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: on what you think where is your line when it 688 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: comes to doing. Stupid things on television because you won't stand, 689 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: on a milk crate but you will get in a Sausage. 690 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: And run in milwaukee you will slide Down. The hill 691 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: at williamsport you're you're, prone to doing bits but the 692 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: milk crate was. 693 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 2: Too, much for you no, It's. Not a bit jeff 694 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: it is An. Artificial HIGH en hanser and. I don't 695 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 2: need that i don't. Want to do that and the 696 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: sausage race was the worst day of. My WHOLE life 697 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: professionally BUT i told. You i, did it mike MCCUAD, 698 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: our boss at espn told, me YOU'RE doing this and 699 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: I was afraid of mike. Mccuad at the time I'm still. 700 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 2: Afraid OF mike mcquad so i did what he told 701 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: me to do for fear that he might fire me 702 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 2: on the spot for not being the hot dog. In, 703 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: the sausage race well thank you to everybody for. 704 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 3: Catching up with us is this a? 705 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: Great game Or, What, Every, single tuesday wednesday thursday we 706 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: come out with a Brand new Episode of next week 707 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: We're Gonna Hear, from tony gwynn junior the son Of 708 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: The late The Great hall of Famer. Tony gwyn and dad, 709 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing too because we Not Only Talk about tony, 710 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: gwinn junior's playing career but we Also Looked Back at 711 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: Tony gwynn's hall of fame induction weekend almost, twenty years 712 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: Ago Now And where tony gwinn, junior was for that 713 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: how pregnant his. 714 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: Wife was for that it was a lot going, on, 715 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 3: In That. 716 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: Interview right tony jr is just like his dad. In 717 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 2: so many ways his voice is, identical to his, father 718 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: but you know his personality and everything. Is the same way, 719 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: he's so easy. Going he's so funny he's. Just Like 720 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 2: his Dad And. I'm hoping tony Jr will be. In cooperstown, 721 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 2: this Weekend maybe not, But, I'm GOING there jeff and 722 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: i can't stress this enough How magical. A place cooperstown 723 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 2: is it. Is just ludicrously charming to walk, down that 724 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,720 Speaker 2: Main street, especially on induction weekend it is the greatest 725 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: three days. You could possibly spend, You've never been there you. 726 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 2: Got to go there if you Can't go, there for 727 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 2: induction weekend go any other time where it's less crowded and, 728 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 2: spend a week there or spend a. Couple of days 729 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 2: there it'll be ABSOLUTELY stunningly good and i can't. 730 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: Wait to go tomorrow thank you, so much for, listening 731 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: and as always thank you for being a. 732 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: Part of our family 733 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: Fi