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Speaker 1: dark on the show before. I will say our show
Speaker 1: on the Reserve, the Police Reserve Battalion, where it was
Speaker 1: normal guys who ended up executing a bunch of Jews,
Speaker 1: I would say that's probably the darkest story I've ever done.
Speaker 1: Our story today may get a tad darker, if you
Speaker 1: can imagine that it's I'll put it to you this way.
Speaker 1: I know a lot about just various things when it
Speaker 1: comes to communism and World War two and things that
Speaker 1: we're happening in the Soviet Union and Germany and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. And would I say, no, a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: certainly not some expert, but I love that era, World
Speaker 1: War one, World War two era, first half of the
Speaker 1: twentieth century era that I just end up reading a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff on it. I watch everything I came
Speaker 1: to read a bunch of stuff on it, and so
Speaker 1: I get the high points, so I get the low points.
Speaker 1: I get I get it, I get it. I've heard
Speaker 1: plenty of terrible tales. I came across this particular tale,
Speaker 1: which you've almost undoubtedly not heard of. I came across
Speaker 1: this particular tale a little while ago. And this is
Speaker 1: me right, this is jaded, soulless moralists met I was horrified,
Speaker 1: the kind of horrified where I was reading something on
Speaker 1: it and I realized I had my hand over my mouth.
Speaker 1: I had put my hand over my mouth, and I'm
Speaker 1: doing that thing where you're you're almost saying under your breath,
Speaker 1: Oh God, have mercy. That's the kind of tale this
Speaker 1: is going to be today. I'm not I'm going to
Speaker 1: skip over some details that I think are just dore.
Speaker 1: I don't not in here to do that. But you
Speaker 1: want to know why I hate communism, here's the exhibit
Speaker 1: A for your reasons to hate communism book. You ready
Speaker 1: for this? Buckle up? It's the true story. If you
Speaker 1: were to write a horror movie, I don't think you
Speaker 1: could write one this bad. Let's go to Soviet Union. Now,
Speaker 1: what's industrial industrialization? Well, here's really what it is. Mouth
Speaker 1: did the same thing in China, but the Soviets were
Speaker 1: all about that life. Once the Communists took over in
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, we're talking lenin Stalin all this other stuff.
Speaker 1: What they were looking at was a country of mostly farmers.
Speaker 1: You're a farming country. Well, farming's great, everyone likes to eat.
Speaker 1: I mean, farming is really really necessary. But when you
Speaker 1: were the communist Soviet Union and later on communist China,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a country of just farmers,
Speaker 1: because how is that going to help you conquer or
Speaker 1: the world. Remember, communists want to conquer the world. They
Speaker 1: want to conquer everything. You're competing with the United States,
Speaker 1: you're competing with these other fancy European countries. You want
Speaker 1: to get modern and sexy, right, there's nothing sexy about
Speaker 1: a plow in wheatfield. Give me factories. I want steel,
Speaker 1: I want to that's what you want. That's what helps
Speaker 1: you conquer the world. So you decide you're going to
Speaker 1: force the issue a bit, and you're going to force
Speaker 1: your country to industrialize. Now, how do you do that.
Speaker 1: You can't just snap your fingers and sprout up a factory.
Speaker 1: You need workers. You need workers to do what you're
Speaker 1: telling them to do. You're not going to see an
Speaker 1: advertisement in the newspaper. Come make great wages with great
Speaker 1: benefits building our steel factory today. There's even a four
Speaker 1: oh one k matching plan. No, if you're a communist,
Speaker 1: or remember it's an anti human religion, you simply look
Speaker 1: at people as commodities that will actually help us all.
Speaker 1: It helps me to remind myself of this. Remember this.
Speaker 1: A communist doesn't look at you as anything more. This
Speaker 1: is legitimate than a stick of gum. That's what you are.
Speaker 1: You're a stick of gum. You have a use. Sometimes
Speaker 1: if I happen to lose you, it's not really a
Speaker 1: big deal. If I do find a use for you,
Speaker 1: I'll use you, but you'll probably lose your flavors shortly
Speaker 1: and I'll just get rid of you. That sounds harsh.
Speaker 1: That's how the communist looks at people. That's how they
Speaker 1: look at the individual. Not people as a whole, but
Speaker 1: the individual. You're nothing, you mean nothing, You're nothing. So
Speaker 1: when you're wanting to industrialize a nation, you have to
Speaker 1: force people to do things. You have to you have
Speaker 1: to use the resources you have, and the resources you
Speaker 1: have are people and farmers. Well, your farmers are going
Speaker 1: to be forced to produce, and the people who aren't
Speaker 1: doing the things you want them to do are gonna
Speaker 1: be forced to do things like build a steel factory
Speaker 1: and then work in a steel factory. All right, So
Speaker 1: that's the general concept of it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too deep into all that right now, but that's
Speaker 1: the general concept of the farmers men that they get
Speaker 1: screwed in Russia and places like Ukraine and other places.
Speaker 1: You see Stalin all his factories and his new factory
Speaker 1: workers and his new minds and his new timber production.
Speaker 1: His people had to eat. The farmers had these farms
Speaker 1: and they had to produce this food. And farmers would
Speaker 1: regularly and for obvious reasons, plan on their being a famine.
Speaker 1: Anybody who's talked to a farming family, any farmer who's
Speaker 1: ever farmed for any length of time, has a certain
Speaker 1: portion of the year's crop or year's money depending on
Speaker 1: what they're doing with it, and they set it away. Why,
Speaker 1: because famine is not some end of the world disaster.
Speaker 1: Famine is inevitable. There is always another one coming around,
Speaker 1: you know what. You simply plan for it and get
Speaker 1: through it. It's just part parcel. It's just way of life.
Speaker 1: Farmers would hold stuff aside. Farmers would hold stuff for
Speaker 1: their family to eat. Farmers would hold things for the
Speaker 1: famine to come. The Soviet Union would come, just take
Speaker 1: all of it. They'd send the Communist officials to take
Speaker 1: all of it. Soon because of the forced quotas the
Speaker 1: farmers couldn't meet. The Soviet Union was killing people, arresting people,
Speaker 1: calling them lazy for not working as hard as they
Speaker 1: should for the state. If there was any resistance at all,
Speaker 1: people were arrested and deported. Ukraine was famous for this,
Speaker 1: famous for really bucking back against the Russians. Well, Stalin
Speaker 1: was not a man to take that. Lying down. Stalin
Speaker 1: made things even worse on Ukraine than other people. Soon
Speaker 1: you have this massive, massive famine in Ukraine. When I
Speaker 1: say massive famine, I'm talking about ten million people dying.
Speaker 1: That kind of famine should be noted, just to keep
Speaker 1: it current here for you. You know the number one
Speaker 1: newspaper in America, the New York Times, Yeah, what are
Speaker 1: their writers? He covered for the famine and lied about
Speaker 1: it for the Communists. You see, the Communists have been
Speaker 1: here for a long long time bringing you the news. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's another story. We'll talk about that story another day.
Speaker 1: You now have what you have, a huge countryside in Russia,
Speaker 1: Ukraine and otherwise of people, rural people and whatever profession
Speaker 1: who are starving and they're poor. Now what would you
Speaker 1: do if you were starving and poor in the countryside.
Speaker 1: We all know what we do. Unless you have a
Speaker 1: relative somewhere else to go live, you're going to come
Speaker 1: to the cities where it's more easy to find soups
Speaker 1: and breadlines and things like that. It's more easy to
Speaker 1: find relatives. Hey, do you mind if we all pack
Speaker 1: into your apartment? Kind of a thing? So they do,
Speaker 1: They pack into the cities. Stalin doesn't want him in
Speaker 1: the cities. Stalin has a better idea. Buckle up, it's
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Speaker 1: show dot com. We're gonna walk through the Soviet Union,
Speaker 1: and I think I need to set up something else
Speaker 1: before I get to the rest of our story. When
Speaker 1: you hear about goo lags, there's you can get a
Speaker 1: different image in your mind than what they were. And
Speaker 1: when I say that, it's because it's not that they
Speaker 1: were ever just one thing. It was the entire prison
Speaker 1: slash prison camp slash labor camp Soviet system. I will
Speaker 1: tell you most of my life. When somebody said something
Speaker 1: like gulag, I pictured some tall concrete walls with razor
Speaker 1: wire and Soviet guards walking around with dogs and things
Speaker 1: like that. That's a prison that kind of existed there.
Speaker 1: But the gulags were more something because they didn't want
Speaker 1: you in the prison anymore. The gulags were mostly and
Speaker 1: they had them all over. There's not a mostly, but
Speaker 1: the gulags were mostly in the remote parts of the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union, like Siberia. They could be it could be
Speaker 1: in a half a cave. Mostly you need to think
Speaker 1: of them as camps. Sometimes. These gulags were in such
Speaker 1: remote parts of the Soviet Union, and this is tough
Speaker 1: for you and I to understand, given the world we
Speaker 1: live in now, they didn't have walls. Why they didn't
Speaker 1: need walls. You're not leaving there alive, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to that later on. You and I can't relate to
Speaker 1: a country that was totally I mean that part of Russia,
Speaker 1: Siberia especially then, is so remote. There weren't train tracks,
Speaker 1: there weren't roads. There's just hundreds of miles of frozen hellscape.
Speaker 1: They all they have to do is drop you in
Speaker 1: a village, and you're not going anywhere because there's nowhere
Speaker 1: to go. You won't live, you'll freeze or starved to death.
Speaker 1: The Gulags can mean anything, and as you'll find out today,
Speaker 1: they'll move you from gulag to gulag because it's communist
Speaker 1: and be because it's inefficient and nothing works right because
Speaker 1: everything's run by the government. They'll ship in a train
Speaker 1: full of prisoners and they'll get them over to this
Speaker 1: particular camp, and then the commandant in charge of the
Speaker 1: camp and the guards will finally say whoa, okay, there's overcrowding,
Speaker 1: and then there's overcrowding, and they were all overcrowded and
Speaker 1: horrible of the living conditions were unbearable and subhuman. But
Speaker 1: sometimes it would get so bad you couldn't feed the
Speaker 1: workers enough for them to work. And we'll get to
Speaker 1: that work here in a second. So they'll build another
Speaker 1: camp and then they'll grab some from that camp and
Speaker 1: ship into the new camp. You have an understanding. Now,
Speaker 1: it's horrible now, workers. Remember remember we talked about the
Speaker 1: farmers who would migrate to the cities, the people from
Speaker 1: the rural areas who were starving, and they're migrating to
Speaker 1: the cities. Stalin didn't want them in the cities. They
Speaker 1: didn't want the cities overcrowded, didn't want them gobbling up
Speaker 1: all the food. And if you're a subhuman monster like Stalin,
Speaker 1: boy did a solution just present itself. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: I have these people from the rural areas filling up
Speaker 1: my cities like Moscow and Lennon Grad, and I don't
Speaker 1: want them here. And there's homeless people all over the streets,
Speaker 1: and it's making communism look bad. And I also, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I also need a bunch of people to
Speaker 1: move to the part of Russia where nobody wants to
Speaker 1: move because it's so miserable, because there are tons of
Speaker 1: natural resources out there. We could farm that land, we
Speaker 1: could mine that land, we could timber that land. So
Speaker 1: I have all these people here, and I want a
Speaker 1: bunch of people here, Why don't I just move them
Speaker 1: on out? Now come the deportations, Stalin, because this is
Speaker 1: what communists do. You see in the FBI warnings about
Speaker 1: domestic terrorism here in America. Now what communists do as
Speaker 1: they determine citizens who disagree with the direction of the
Speaker 1: government are enemies of the state, They are revolutionaries, they
Speaker 1: are violent, they must be locked up. Not that any
Speaker 1: of that would ever happen here, right, They start either
Speaker 1: turning people around, sending them back to the rural areas,
Speaker 1: or they're deporting them to places like Siberia. What's a
Speaker 1: way you're going to classify this? How are you going
Speaker 1: to figure out who to deport and not to deport?
Speaker 1: They came up with a system for that. They're called passports.
Speaker 1: This is what you see in the movies when you
Speaker 1: read about the old Soviet Union or watching these things
Speaker 1: about the old Soviet Union. You need papers. You have
Speaker 1: your papers. You're going to cross this checkbot. You have
Speaker 1: your papers. What it means is this, he would find
Speaker 1: the people well, the communists would find the people they
Speaker 1: wanted in the cities, and of course there were so
Speaker 1: many favors you had to do to get this, or
Speaker 1: you had to have a specific job they wanted you in,
Speaker 1: and they would give you a passport. And this passport
Speaker 1: was not just oh, let me go home and put
Speaker 1: it in my safe. You keep this passport on you
Speaker 1: at all times. It's the document that says you are
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. If you don't have it, you're
Speaker 1: in very serious trouble. Why are you in such serious trouble? Well,
Speaker 1: they want to gather up. They have a number of
Speaker 1: people they want to make sure they've deported, and they're
Speaker 1: going to achieve that number. What are they going to
Speaker 1: do to achieve that number? They've already given the police force,
Speaker 1: They've already given them quotas on how many people they
Speaker 1: have to arrest. Because you have a certain number you
Speaker 1: have to send to mind it over there. If they
Speaker 1: catch you without your passport, without your papers, well that's
Speaker 1: an easy way to meet quota, isn't it. Guess you
Speaker 1: must be someone else. Guess you shouldn't be here at all.
Speaker 1: They start issuing the passports. Some people just went into
Speaker 1: hiding because they knew they wouldn't qualify. Some people and
Speaker 1: these are probably the smart ones, even though it meant
Speaker 1: death for many of them to Some people just self
Speaker 1: deported back to an area where they knew I'd rather
Speaker 1: be a little hungry there than go somewhere else. Some
Speaker 1: people just chose to risk it. Whatever you chose, I
Speaker 1: hope you got out in time, and many, many, many
Speaker 1: did not. They get snatched up. The police just start
Speaker 1: arresting people and arresting people and arresting people. And this
Speaker 1: is not a normal justice system. There is no justice system.
Speaker 1: There is no court. Your technically supposed to get one,
Speaker 1: but they would just flat out tell people just get
Speaker 1: on the train, you can talk to somebody wherever you're going,
Speaker 1: shipping them with horrible conditions. I saw something stallin one
Speaker 1: of the cities, extra clean for May Day, you know
Speaker 1: that communist holiday. Far too many of us celebrate. It's
Speaker 1: Labor Day, that's May Day. See one of the streets
Speaker 1: looking really good, to make communism look good. So they
Speaker 1: went on another massive round up. Now who are they
Speaker 1: rounding up? It's not only the rural people. And this
Speaker 1: is going to be an important part of our story.
Speaker 1: It's not just the poor farmers. You don't just have
Speaker 1: a but your poor farmer camps out there. Just what
Speaker 1: do you farm, Larry wheat? Ah, that's nice, Bob, I
Speaker 1: was a corn farmer. No, you're rounding up because you
Speaker 1: would you determine that you have the authority to deport
Speaker 1: enemy quote enemies of the state, and you don't ever
Speaker 1: really specify who is an enemy of the state. And
Speaker 1: they had six different classifications for who should be deported,
Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. I'm not going to read them because
Speaker 1: it gets a little wonky, but you read them, any
Speaker 1: one of them can mean anything. I mean, it can
Speaker 1: mean anything. They do that. Remember communists do that on purpose.
Speaker 1: They'll issue these hard and fast rules that can mean anything,
Speaker 1: So it can mean anything. And they do that so
Speaker 1: it can mean you. Again, you're not just sending farmers.
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Speaker 1: make sense, Chris, Well, you wouldn't understand that. But anyway, famine, deportations, passports,
Speaker 1: you're gathering up a bunch of farmers and you're sending
Speaker 1: them to the camps, to the gulaks, to Siberia. But
Speaker 1: you're not just gathering farmers. Remember, the police have quotas,
Speaker 1: so you're gathering everybody. When I say everybody, I mean
Speaker 1: there are stories like this. These are true stories, and
Speaker 1: I would highly recommend I forget the book one of
Speaker 1: the books I read on this. But there's a documentary
Speaker 1: I browsed last night is kind of putting a finishing
Speaker 1: touch on this. There's a documentary on TV I forget
Speaker 1: where it is about some part of this story. One guy,
Speaker 1: he invited some friends over for dinner. They're sitting around,
Speaker 1: couple of beers. Decided they wanted to go for some snacks.
Speaker 1: Who hasn't done that? Oh man, I had a couple
Speaker 1: of bears. Let's walk down to the corner store, grab
Speaker 1: some chips. I had some great chips this weekend. I
Speaker 1: needed to tell you about that. But don't let me
Speaker 1: get distracted. Right now, Let's walk down to the corner store,
Speaker 1: grab some chips. Sounds good, Bob. Bob never came back.
Speaker 1: Why didn't Bob came back? Because Bob walked down to
Speaker 1: the corner store for some chips, and Bob got stopped
Speaker 1: by the police and asked for his papers. He's just
Speaker 1: running right down to the corner stode. Just go get
Speaker 1: good some chips. Where's your passport, Bob? I don't have it, Bob,
Speaker 1: you're under arrest. Bob lefton never came back. No one
Speaker 1: ever knows what happened to Bob. Oh, there's a worse story.
Speaker 1: I debated not even telling it to you, because the
Speaker 1: thought of it is just all right, let's get it
Speaker 1: over with mother traveling with her twelve year old daughter.
Speaker 1: They get to a train station. They get off at
Speaker 1: the train station. The mother decides to leave her daughter
Speaker 1: at the train station because she thinks it'll be safer.
Speaker 1: You stay here, I'm gonna go look for bread. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go look and see if I can't get us
Speaker 1: some food. I'll come back. Mom takes off, gets some food,
Speaker 1: comes back. Twelve year old is gone. Why is she gone?
Speaker 1: She didn't have papers either. Tops rested her too. You
Speaker 1: want to know the environment that twelve year old is
Speaker 1: going into, Oh i'll explain. You see on top of
Speaker 1: the farmers and the twelve year old girls, and the
Speaker 1: guy's going out for a bag of chips getting on
Speaker 1: these trains. Remember this is just a massive cleanup project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want the forced labor to go mine and do
Speaker 1: timber for you. But the Soviet deportations were also away
Speaker 1: get rid of that criminal element. They had criminals too,
Speaker 1: real life criminals. I'm not talking about a petty thief
Speaker 1: who stolen apple trying to feed his kids for a day,
Speaker 1: just like every society does. They had murderers, they had rapists,
Speaker 1: they had really, really really bad people. There. They're getting
Speaker 1: on the trains with the twelve year old girl. They're
Speaker 1: getting on the trains with the man who was heading
Speaker 1: down for Ror d'urs and they're heading knees. Well, they
Speaker 1: head east and this is a specific story. There are
Speaker 1: so many Gulak stories. This is a specific one. They
Speaker 1: head east. Remember there are no trials, none, You just
Speaker 1: go east. They get to a camp. Camps are overcrowded,
Speaker 1: as I've described, really overcrowded and really overcrowded and really overcrowded.
Speaker 1: At some point they decided they're going to be building
Speaker 1: new camps. They're always building new camps, and the prisoners
Speaker 1: are building the camps themselves. And they had a whole
Speaker 1: way they would build the camps or villages. They had
Speaker 1: a plan they were given. They just the people there
Speaker 1: and give them some tools and give them, you know,
Speaker 1: enough food to survive. And the first thing you would
Speaker 1: build would be a hospital and a place to keep clean.
Speaker 1: Not because they cared about you because they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep you alive so you could do more labor, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So, but it was a process to
Speaker 1: build these camps. They gather up, and I can't seem
Speaker 1: to get an accurate number on how many people were here.
Speaker 1: I've read thirteen thousand, I've read ten thousand, I've read
Speaker 1: six thousand. That's the number that's the most. But these
Speaker 1: are the people who are about to go into Well,
Speaker 1: how could you make a gulag worse, Let's go over it.
Speaker 1: Let's call it's thirteen thousand. For the time being. They
Speaker 1: gathered them up. They're shipping them east out of one
Speaker 1: camp to a different camp. They get to or about
Speaker 1: to get to, where the camp is supposed to be,
Speaker 1: but the camp's not done yet. They haven't really broken ground.
Speaker 1: There's no place to put them. Well, everything's disorganized. You
Speaker 1: don't care about these prisoners. About a third of them
Speaker 1: died on the way. They're starving to death. These it's
Speaker 1: it's a disaster. You have to put these prisoners somewhere.
Speaker 1: Only you can't just drop off a truckload of prisoners
Speaker 1: anywhere because there are Soviet citizens and little Soviet villages around.
Speaker 1: You can't drop because there are plenty of criminals in
Speaker 1: here too. You can't drop all these prisoners off just
Speaker 1: on the side of the road. You have to find
Speaker 1: some place to isolate them until you get the camp build.
Speaker 1: There's a river, a big river. We are in Siberia, right,
Speaker 1: This is a Siberian river, Gold big river, Gold River,
Speaker 1: and there's a gigantic island in the center of this river.
Speaker 1: They take these prisoners and they drop them off on
Speaker 1: the island. Now I needed to picture this moment. When
Speaker 1: I say drop them off on the island. There's nothing
Speaker 1: on the island. You could go look at a picture
Speaker 1: of it. To this day, it's called Dza Island or
Speaker 1: no Zino Island, depending on what's spelling Nazi n O.
Speaker 1: There's nothing there. It's a big frozen march or wet march.
Speaker 1: They drop them onto the island. The prisoners, many of
Speaker 1: whom aren't even fully clothed by this point in time.
Speaker 1: They have no tools, they have no food, they have
Speaker 1: no nothing. Because there's no care from the guards that
Speaker 1: the prisoners die. Anyway, you're just trying to survive. In
Speaker 1: you earn your paycheck about well. The one number I
Speaker 1: had when I was reading about six thousand said they
Speaker 1: were about forty five hundred men about three hundred women.
Speaker 1: Do the math on how that's going to work out.
Speaker 1: You see what had already happened on this journey and
Speaker 1: in the camps. Is this. They're not all farmers, They're
Speaker 1: not all guys on a snack run. They're not all
Speaker 1: twelve year old girls. You have real life, dark, dangerous
Speaker 1: criminals in there. Picture you and your girlfriends and your boyfriends,
Speaker 1: about ten of you getting dropped in a super max
Speaker 1: prison for violent offenders. That's what you just did on
Speaker 1: an island with nothing, no buildings, no tools, nothing. They
Speaker 1: had already been praying on the non criminal types. When
Speaker 1: I say praying on them, if you manage to keep
Speaker 1: any documents or papers on you, they'd kill you for
Speaker 1: the paper. To roll it up with cigarettes, I'm going
Speaker 1: to I mean, there's a story I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: tell you next. I have to tell it to you.
Speaker 1: It's going to be horrific. I'm never ever, ever going
Speaker 1: to do a show you have to turn off with
Speaker 1: your kids. Just no, this is gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit uglier. I'll skip most of the things, most of
Speaker 1: how it went for women. I'll let you use your imagination,
Speaker 1: but there are guards in these camps and prison gangs
Speaker 1: in these camps, and these women have no protection at all.
Speaker 1: It's just terrible. But there is one thing you have
Speaker 1: to know, because look, you want to know the end
Speaker 1: result of communism, I'm about to give it to you.
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Speaker 1: like Ben see a lot of promises unkept. They're putting
Speaker 1: that stimula strek on the back burner, They're putting in
Speaker 1: the minimum wage hike on the back burner, and they're
Speaker 1: dropping bombs in Syria right now. And those bombs are
Speaker 1: kind of expensive for a dude who owes me two
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Chris, what is that bumb We're definitely playing
Speaker 1: that again on the show. It was some Biden bone
Speaker 1: run CNN and most it is hilarious. Chris and I
Speaker 1: were just talking about this in the break. If it
Speaker 1: sounds like I'm delaying getting to this horrible part of
Speaker 1: the story, I am. I'm procrastinating. Okay, I can procrastinate
Speaker 1: because I don't want to do it. I feel like
Speaker 1: I have to do it. I feel an obligation to
Speaker 1: do it. I don't want to get to this part
Speaker 1: of the story, but I'll get to it in a second.
Speaker 1: What's hilarious is everybody woke up a few days ago
Speaker 1: and saw that we a bomb Syria, and there was
Speaker 1: like five people in the country who were happy about it.
Speaker 1: It was such a bizarre move. Everyone on the right
Speaker 1: and left, we're all like, wait, what is it? See?
Speaker 1: What what are we doing? Why are we bobbing Syria?
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope there was some kind of vital
Speaker 1: national security concern in there, because that juice was not
Speaker 1: worth the squeeze. Nobody was happy about it. All right,
Speaker 1: the gangs have taken over. They've taken over before they
Speaker 1: even got to the island. Real violent man, and this
Speaker 1: park gets is something is something I have to be
Speaker 1: careful of. You know, we all I always talk about
Speaker 1: how we have bubbles and we have biases, and we
Speaker 1: have we can get in, we can get in these
Speaker 1: things that we can't see what other people were going through.
Speaker 1: I sometimes lose focus on the fact that I'm a
Speaker 1: big dude. I'm a dude and I'm big. I'm six
Speaker 1: eight two thirty. Chris is a big dude. Chris is
Speaker 1: six feet Chris goes through life and he's in general
Speaker 1: not going to really be an appealing target for anybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, don't get me right. He look, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to just lack of daisically ignore everything.
Speaker 1: But he's the people aren't looking at Chris thinking, oh, man, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's easy prey right there. Let's go beat him up.
Speaker 1: Let's go, because in general, he's going to be in
Speaker 1: the top thirty percent of people out there that are
Speaker 1: probably going to be stronger and able to defend themselves
Speaker 1: in some way he does. I'm not saying he's an
Speaker 1: ultimate fighter, but they're easier prey. You're gonna see Chris,
Speaker 1: they go, noh, we can do better than that. If
Speaker 1: you're a crook, you're looking at it Chris and thinking
Speaker 1: I can do better. As a dude, I can walk
Speaker 1: through a dark parking garage, and yes, in case you're wondering,
Speaker 1: yes I am always armed. But I can walk through
Speaker 1: a tall parking garage armed or armed, and if there's
Speaker 1: a dark element there, if there's a criminal element there
Speaker 1: of some kind. No, I'm not bulletproof, and I'm so
Speaker 1: furthest thing in the world from the toughest guy on earth.
Speaker 1: But they're not going to look at me coming at
Speaker 1: six to eight and say to themselves, oh yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the one. They're gonna look and like all predators,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say, Wow, there's probably easier prey out there.
Speaker 1: Women don't have that small dainty men out there don't
Speaker 1: have that. They land on this island and they throw
Speaker 1: these people on this island and it instantly becomes a
Speaker 1: horror movie. They start eating people on day one. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking Donner party held out as long as we
Speaker 1: can let me eat the tree bark first. I mean
Speaker 1: day one, they're eating people. The gangs are extorting people.
Speaker 1: The guards are all sadists. They might be worse than
Speaker 1: the gangs. They routinely found people with their oh I'm
Speaker 1: not even at the bad part yet, with their faces mutilated.
Speaker 1: Why because people had gold teeth. There was terrible dental
Speaker 1: work back then. They get gold crowns on their teeth.
Speaker 1: They would murder you and tear your teeth out just
Speaker 1: for the money to trade it for more food on
Speaker 1: the black market. It gets even worse the guards. The guards,
Speaker 1: remember when I said they were sadists. They were bored.
Speaker 1: They were in charge. There was nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: Remember that frozen river. They'd go shoot ducks out of
Speaker 1: the sky and make the prisoners jump in the frozen
Speaker 1: river to fetch the ducks. Like dogs. If you were
Speaker 1: going to be executed for some real or imagine camp violation,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like they were a lot of rules.
Speaker 1: They would put you in a boat and make you
Speaker 1: sing songs crossing the river while they threw breadcrumbs at
Speaker 1: you before they took you to the other side and
Speaker 1: shot you and let your body drop in the water.
Speaker 1: You remember I said they were eating people. The camp
Speaker 1: had a doctor. Apparently the doctor was well fed. Everyone
Speaker 1: else is starving to death or in this Lord of
Speaker 1: the Flies scenario, just praying on other people. The doctor
Speaker 1: could rarely go out without a guard because every time
Speaker 1: he went out, because of his hefty nature, they would
Speaker 1: yell at him. Oh, I bet he tastes good. Look
Speaker 1: how much meat is on him? Are you ready for it?
Speaker 1: One girl? She was. I'm not sure how to put this.
Speaker 1: The camp guards were the only ones besides the gangs
Speaker 1: who could provide protection. I've already described what it was
Speaker 1: like for the women there. Now women have to survive
Speaker 1: two Oftentimes a woman would this, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough one, Chris. We'll look, we'll get it. We'll
Speaker 1: get this up with them. We're gonna wrap this thing up,
Speaker 1: We're gonna move on. In the news of today, I
Speaker 1: told you it was gonna be a rough day. Hang on.
Speaker 1: No word in the English language is less convincing than probably.
Speaker 1: Are you sure we should get matching tattoos on our
Speaker 1: first date? Sure? And we'll probably stay together. Probably. It's
Speaker 1: been twenty three minutes since I ate. I can probably swim.
Speaker 1: You should wait thirty minutes. Okay, I don't tell me
Speaker 1: what the job candid bo scramp? Oh, I have a cramp.
Speaker 1: I can probably hit the green from here? Probably? Can
Speaker 1: I get a Mulligan ready to go? Hey? Are you
Speaker 1: sure you're okay to drive? Yeah? I'm pretty sober. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm probably okay. Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to drinking and driving. If you're drinking, call a cab,
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Speaker 1: Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. Let me get
Speaker 1: this over with. Women would often times allow themselves to
Speaker 1: be taken in by gangs and or guards so they
Speaker 1: would have protection. Better to have the protection of one
Speaker 1: than be preyed on by many. One of the guards
Speaker 1: had taken in a lady. The other guards the other
Speaker 1: gangs liked this lady. The guard took some time off,
Speaker 1: told the other guards to look out for her while
Speaker 1: they were gone. They didn't. They took her outside of town,
Speaker 1: tied her to a tree an aider. They didn't even
Speaker 1: finish her off. She later died of blood law. Communism
Speaker 1: is evil? Are you understanding why I hate it so much?
Speaker 1: Are you getting it yet? It is evil? This is
Speaker 1: how it ends. It always ends this way. Stop it
Speaker 1: before it gets there. I'll put a bow on this
Speaker 1: in a second hand. Jesse Kelly returns next. This is
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Speaker 1: told you it was gonna get dark today. I I
Speaker 1: gave you the PG version. I want you to and
Speaker 1: this is me, Tony. I'm giving it to you straight here.
Speaker 1: I gave you the PG version. They just left these
Speaker 1: people here for a year. I didn't even bring up
Speaker 1: the dysent. Harry, think about people get diseases. You're in
Speaker 1: a marsh. You're in a marsh. Freezing to death. It
Speaker 1: was so bad. People would get in the frozen river
Speaker 1: and lock arms and make a human raft trying to
Speaker 1: get out. Of course, the guards would shoot them or drown,
Speaker 1: or you'd freeze to death. And I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: some made it. I hope some made it. Board Willen,
Speaker 1: you know, you hope somebody made it out of there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of escaping, you know how we talked about there
Speaker 1: were criminal gangs and then there was the normal people.
Speaker 1: The criminal gangs they were in charge, really besides the guards.
Speaker 1: The criminal gangs were in charge. Good to be in charge,
Speaker 1: not good to not be in charge. If you're one
Speaker 1: of the non criminal types. As a dude too, you
Speaker 1: live in fear, a state of fear that you'll be
Speaker 1: preyed on by the criminal types. They'll kill you and
Speaker 1: eat youth. This was, again as I described earlier, the norm.
Speaker 1: They'll come after you. They'll I mean for various things,
Speaker 1: things I'm not going to get into. On a family show.
Speaker 1: One of their favorite tricks was they would recruit you
Speaker 1: forcefully or just ask you to help with their escape attempt. Hey,
Speaker 1: Jewish producer Chris, We're going to escape out of here
Speaker 1: next week. You in. Do you want to join our gang?
Speaker 1: Nobody will prey on you anymore. You're in our gang.
Speaker 1: You want to join our gang? Life's good in the gang. Look,
Speaker 1: you want to survive, better to be eating than getting eaten.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm man sure. But really what they're doing
Speaker 1: is they're bringing you along on the escape attempt so
Speaker 1: they can kill you and eat you whenever they get hungry.
Speaker 1: I can't get numbers on this. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: heard everything from thirteen thousand, eleven thousand, six thousand. I
Speaker 1: heard a lot of six thousand. Not very many people
Speaker 1: made it off this island a lot. But you know
Speaker 1: what hits me most about this story, not just the
Speaker 1: evils of communism, not just the horror of how it
Speaker 1: ends up. What hit me the most about the story
Speaker 1: is this. This took place in nineteen thirty three. It's
Speaker 1: called the Nazino Tragedy or the Nazino Affair. If you're
Speaker 1: interested in looking up, and let me caution you again,
Speaker 1: I gave you the PG version. And when I say that,
Speaker 1: I mean that if you pull up pictures of this.
Speaker 1: It's also known as Cannibal Island of some of the
Speaker 1: things that took that went on in the gulags, this
Speaker 1: one and other ones. When it comes to that cannibal
Speaker 1: stuff and stuff like that, you're going to see things
Speaker 1: that I'm not willing to describe for you on the radio. Yeah, Chris,
Speaker 1: I told you not to do it. Definitely don't do
Speaker 1: it on the company computer. Man, Chris is going to
Speaker 1: get it full fired. It's really bad. So let me
Speaker 1: caution you on that. But you know what hit me.
Speaker 1: The thing that hit me about this was this took
Speaker 1: place in nineteen thirty three. Do you know when we
Speaker 1: found out about this nineteen eighty eight? Nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: that was when we finally had some of the documentation
Speaker 1: of this incident declassify one. This is the one we
Speaker 1: had documentation of. How many many incidents like this happened
Speaker 1: and never got recorded or the records were destroyed. Two
Speaker 1: headline from the post millennial New York Times falsely claims
Speaker 1: last year's BLM violence was misinformation. It's not necessarily about
Speaker 1: the specifics thing the New York Times or BLM or
Speaker 1: any of that. The length communists go to bury the
Speaker 1: truth maybe the worst part about communism. It might be
Speaker 1: the worst part about communism because once this incident happened.
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, there were people within the
Speaker 1: Soviet system who got in trouble for how bad they
Speaker 1: can editions turn out to be on this island. Think
Speaker 1: how horrible it has to be for the communists to
Speaker 1: look and go, oh gosh, you let them live like that. No,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, there wasn't any real serious trouble,
Speaker 1: but oh you should have had the camp built in
Speaker 1: time is more just an inefficiency problem, not an actual
Speaker 1: care about the people problem. But nineteen thirty three to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, the information doesn't come out. Control of
Speaker 1: information is everything. What you read, what you see, you
Speaker 1: can present in tire. You could present lies to people
Speaker 1: and then repeat the lies over and over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. Have these people repeat the lies. Then
Speaker 1: these people jump on the train and repeat the lies,
Speaker 1: and they're lying and they're lying, and they're lying and
Speaker 1: they're lying, And soon everything you see is lies and
Speaker 1: people will believe them. How many gigantic lies out there
Speaker 1: do people believe that have no basis in reality? Ideological
Speaker 1: subversion is the slow process which we call either ideological
Speaker 1: subversion or active measures active namerapriatia. In the language of
Speaker 1: the KGB or psychological warfare. What it basically means is
Speaker 1: to change the perception of reality of every American to
Speaker 1: such an extent that despite of the abundance of information,
Speaker 1: no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in
Speaker 1: the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and
Speaker 1: their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow,
Speaker 1: and it's divided in four basic stages, the first one
Speaker 1: being demoralization. It takes from fifteen to twenty years to
Speaker 1: demoralize a nation. Why that many years because this is
Speaker 1: the minimum number of years which requires to educate one
Speaker 1: generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed
Speaker 1: to the ideology of the enemy. In advance, Marxist Leninist
Speaker 1: ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at
Speaker 1: least three generations of American students without being challenged or
Speaker 1: counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism American patriotism. The
Speaker 1: demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already
Speaker 1: for the last twenty five years. Actually, it's over fulfilled
Speaker 1: because a demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not
Speaker 1: even comradan drop of on all his experts would even
Speaker 1: dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is
Speaker 1: done by Americans too, Americans thanks to lack of moral standards.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not
Speaker 1: matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to
Speaker 1: assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even
Speaker 1: if I shower him with information, with the authentic proof,
Speaker 1: with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by
Speaker 1: force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp,
Speaker 1: he will refuse to believe it. What do we do
Speaker 1: with the people who refuse to believe it? Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Where we are right now. We are in a place
Speaker 1: where half the country hates the country. Now, that's actually
Speaker 1: bad and good news. That sounds dark. Half the country
Speaker 1: hates the country, that's true, But remember you're not a
Speaker 1: tiny minority. Half the country still loves the country too.
Speaker 1: That's the great news. That's why I keep telling you
Speaker 1: to move to red states, red areas, balkanized. You have
Speaker 1: telling millions of people out there who think just like
Speaker 1: you want what you want? What can be done? Now?
Speaker 1: How far down the road are we? Let's take him
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