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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. This podcast is presented by

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Speaker 1: Yedi Built for the Wild. Well, Hello friends, welcome back. Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's like the second week of the new year. Just

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Speaker 1: welcome to the new Roaring twenties. I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good year. And if you're anything

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Speaker 1: like me, you're thinking, Okay, this coming season, I've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff on my mind. But right now

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Speaker 1: what's on my mind is what I like to call

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Speaker 1: application season. It's that time of year where it's just

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start planning my hunts for only twenty now.

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Speaker 1: Now you might be asking yourself where do I apply?

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Speaker 1: What should I be looking for? So, whether your first

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Speaker 1: time Western big game hunter, or maybe you're just looking

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Speaker 1: for something to new, I really think this podcast this

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Speaker 1: week is just for you because what I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: doing is I'm gonna break down the application basics as

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Speaker 1: well as some strategies to draw tags sooner. I'm also

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Speaker 1: going to touch on a few over the counter opportunities

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Speaker 1: and where to start looking for your next big game

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Speaker 1: Western hunt. If I think back to all the tags

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Speaker 1: I've drawn, all the hunts I've been on, probably one

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Speaker 1: of the most exciting just opening the mail and finding

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Speaker 1: out what I drew, was the first time that I

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Speaker 1: drew a sheep tag. Now, I drew it in the

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Speaker 1: state of Nevada, my home state, for a desert bighorn sheep.

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Speaker 1: I was about fifteen years old, and I can just

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Speaker 1: remember one how exciting it was to draw that and

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Speaker 1: get to go on my very own sheep hunt, but

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Speaker 1: also how that hunt played out was pretty cool as well.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna tell you the story of my first

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Speaker 1: sheep tag in the state of Nevada. If you know me,

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Speaker 1: you know that sheep hunting is one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: things to do. There's a lot of reasons behind that.

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Speaker 1: One just the challenge and the type of country that

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Speaker 1: sheep take you. But the other part of it is

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Speaker 1: that drawing a sheep tag is extremely difficult in most instances.

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Speaker 1: I went on my first sheep hunt, I didn't have

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Speaker 1: a tag, but my dad drew a California big Horn

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Speaker 1: sheep tag in the state Nevada. So, California big horn

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Speaker 1: is just a subspecies of a Rocky Mountain big horn.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean a sheep in California. It's like a subspecies.

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Speaker 1: So they're a little bit smaller than a Rocky Mountain

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Speaker 1: big horn, but a lot of people classify them as

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Speaker 1: so we kind of separate that subspecies out. So my

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Speaker 1: I was, I think at the time, eleven years old.

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Speaker 1: I had two younger brothers and my dad. His thing

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Speaker 1: he wanted us to be there when he got a sheep.

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Speaker 1: He ended up getting a ram, and as soon as

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Speaker 1: I walked up on that ram with him, I thought,

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Speaker 1: this is the coolest thing ever. I want to hunt

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Speaker 1: sheep one day. But I knew that it was extremely

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Speaker 1: start applying for tags when I was twelve years old Nevada,

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Speaker 1: and a few years later, when I was fifteen years old,

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Speaker 1: is when I drew my first sheep tag. I'll never

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Speaker 1: forget the moment that I checked to the mail and

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Speaker 1: my dad's shop helping, just working, doing some prep work

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Speaker 1: and as I started reading, I saw it desert big

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Speaker 1: I literally couldn't breathe. I was just freaking out. I'd

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Speaker 1: because I never, in my wildest dreams, thought that I

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Speaker 1: it every day, pretty much every day in my life.

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Speaker 1: had been in the unit that I drew. So I

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Speaker 1: unless some portion of it got closed or whatever. Now

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Speaker 1: You can take it off pretty much as much school,

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Speaker 1: So we drive down to Vegas, do the Indoctrin nation,

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Speaker 1: We talked to the biologists there, we just got as

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Speaker 1: it was gonna be very, very, very difficult to find

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Speaker 1: either moved on or died, unfortunately. So we started hunting, glassing, hiking,

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Speaker 1: you know, I kept thinking, Hey, I've got a sheep tag.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't looking for the biggest sheep on the mountain.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking for any legal ram. That's all

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Speaker 1: my own ram. The next day went by no sheep.

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Speaker 1: we had seen a total of zero sheep. Now, I

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Speaker 1: We'd seen no other living animals up until that point.

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Speaker 1: Is getting pretty close to Christmas now, and so we

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Speaker 1: promised my mom that we're going to go back home

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Speaker 1: for Christmas, but we've had plans to then drive back

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Speaker 1: Christmas night to keep hunting till the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: So there's Christmas to I am. Christmas Eve, we loaded up,

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Speaker 1: was probably about a seven hour drive. Did Christmas with

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Speaker 1: the family loaded up that night, drove all night back

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Speaker 1: to the unit. On Christmas night, we get up start hunting.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't that many days left in the season, and

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Speaker 1: just as the week prior, no sightings of animals. I'm

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Speaker 1: to just camp together and that way if somebody had

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Speaker 1: seen something, maybe we could make a play or both

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Speaker 1: Never met him before that point. So the last day

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Speaker 1: had actually spotted some sheep, but he figured with the

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Speaker 1: waiting period and how long it would take him to

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Speaker 1: there wasn't really a ram that he wanted to take.

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Speaker 1: So he came and found me and said, hey, if

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Speaker 1: I said, heck, yeah, I want to go hunt those sheep,

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Speaker 1: So I went into there. Me and my dad went

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Speaker 1: into that area, parked up with our optics, started glassing,

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Speaker 1: and we picked out a band of sheep that had

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Speaker 1: pretty much moved in from a neighboring unit which did

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Speaker 1: have water. And there was a legal ram in that group,

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Speaker 1: just one. So my dad held back with the spawning

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Speaker 1: scope in tripod and just watched them, and I made

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Speaker 1: about a mile hike up and around to where the

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Speaker 1: sheep had disappeared in this canyon. I started to creep over.

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Speaker 1: start glassing, looking as the new country below me would

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Speaker 1: start to appear. And then I saw a band of

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Speaker 1: about twenty sheep, a bunch of years, and in the

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Speaker 1: middle was a ram pushing him around across the canyon,

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Speaker 1: about two and fifty yards away. I laid down, took

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Speaker 1: the ground, put the rifle on it, lined up on

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Speaker 1: to draw than other places. I would also start looking

433
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: at a preference point state, because what that allows you

434
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: to do is plan that two to five years out

435
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 1: you can go to it the state websites. Pick a

436
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: unit that has relatively lower preference point options. So say

437
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: maybe there's a unit that takes three points five points

438
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: and go okay, in four or five years, I can

439
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 1: hunt this unit, which might be a little better than

440
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: a general unit. I gotta wait a little bit longer,

441
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: but up until that point, I'm applying for these other places.

442
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: Then I would apply for that bonus point state as

443
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: a state that could be long term in the future.

444
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: But also you might randomly draw it one of these

445
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: years and have the hunt of a lifetime. So that's

446
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: how I would I would start narrowing it down to

447
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: that way. So what I'm gonna do is, I'll go

448
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: through a list of the states, give you preference bonus

449
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: how that state works, and then you just kind of

450
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: decide from there which state you want to pick in

451
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: that category. And then I'll kind of divulge ways that

452
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: you can start planning and figure out where to apply

453
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: once you've picked those states. What I'm gonna do is

454
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go through each state kind of an

455
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: alphabetical order, the western state and just give you a

456
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 1: brief overview, maybe some little pointers on that state, and

457
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: then we'll go into the research portion of it. So Alaska,

458
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: there are no points. Everybody's kind of on the same

459
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: playing field. Now, certain species doll sheet, brown bear, mountain goat,

460
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: you have to go with a guide, and you can't

461
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: even apply for that without a guide. But you can

462
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: apply for bison, musk, ox, roosevelt elk, black bear, caribou,

463
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: moose without a guide. Now, Alaska's kind of its own

464
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: thing because there's a lot of over the counter tags.

465
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: You generally don't need to apply for a tag in

466
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: Alaska to have a good hunt, and it may not

467
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: even mean that you have a better hunt with a draw,

468
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: whereas most other states, if you have a draw tag

469
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: that's limited entry, the qualities often better. The success rates

470
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: are often better. So Alaska's kind of the oddball in

471
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: that where it's not necessarily the case because getting to

472
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: most the areas in Alaska require some form of logistics

473
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: and and planning that happens whether you draw the tag

474
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: or not. But most of dryers are just around places

475
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: are a little bit logistically easier, but not necessarily cheaper.

476
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: So that's just my overview of Alaska. So then we

477
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: go to Arizona. Arizona has desert sheep, rocky mountain sheep, bison, elk, commulee,

478
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: der accused your antelope. It is a for all intents

479
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 1: and purposes, we'll call Arizona a bonus point state because

480
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: unless you have max points, which is a very very

481
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: small percentage. I can't even remember how many either up

482
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: to now, but there's you'll never obtain a tag in

483
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: the max point pool for the top end units because

484
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: there's so many people with so many tags now. So

485
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: what they've done is they've switched their preference point system

486
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: where a few tags are issued in max bonus points

487
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: and then a few other tags are just issued in

488
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: more of a bonus point random draw. So if you're

489
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 1: nude to applying to Arizona, or don't have max points

490
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: or aren't in the top few section of that max points,

491
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: you're just gonna look at Arizona as a random bonus

492
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: point state. California it works mostly on it's a modified

493
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: preference points. So what it is is a certain portion

494
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: go to max points and a certain portion go to

495
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: a random draw. It's a good one to plan out

496
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: deer hunts because there are some pretty good deer hunts

497
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 1: there where you can say, Okay, I'm gonna draw that

498
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: in four years, five years or whatever. Um as far

499
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: as elk and sheep go. The sheep pretty low odds

500
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: of drawing elk antelope those. There's only one tag given

501
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: to non residents, so it's really not even worth applying

502
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: for as a nonresident unless you're already just gonna apply

503
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: for the deer or the sheep or something like that.

504
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: But it is a good state as far as preference goes.

505
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: If you just want to guarantee, hey, I'm going to

506
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: have a deer tag in this many years, you can

507
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: do that. Plus you have the chance of possibly drawing

508
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: it sooner by it being modified preference point. So Colorado,

509
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Colorado has desert sheep rocky sheep, moose, mountain goats, They've

510
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: got elk, deer, antelope. I think they have still have

511
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: some of the highest populations of elk. It's a great

512
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: state to put in your plan for a few reasons.

513
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: One and it probably has some of the best mule

514
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: you're hunting in the country too. It has a lot

515
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: of elk tags. Now a lot of people do apply.

516
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: It's closer to a lot of the states that are

517
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: further east, but there's a lot of opportunity there and

518
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: there's some some good animals as well. The cool thing

519
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: about it is it is still a preference point state,

520
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: so the people with the most points are awarded tags.

521
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 1: Let's say you go into a unit and you have

522
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: three points. Everybody with three points gets a tag before

523
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: anybody with two points gets a tag. And if everybody

524
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: with three points gets a tag, then they start drawing

525
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: within the two point category and so on. So you

526
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: can go on their website you can figure out, Okay,

527
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: some areas how many points are pretty much needed. You

528
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: can build up to that point level and then you

529
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: can apply and you know you're gonna get a tag. Now,

530
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: the mouse, sheep goat in that state is kind of

531
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: a weighted bonus point preference point system, So you actually

532
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: have to apply for three years there for the moose, sheep,

533
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: goat without having any chance of drawing, and then once

534
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: you get that then it's more of a bonus point draw.

535
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: So once you have three preference then you can go

536
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: in and it's more of a bonus point draw after

537
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: you've built up three years of just applying with no

538
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: option of drawing. Kind of different. But and then Idaho

539
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: no point draw there. It's just completely random. So the

540
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: thing about Idaho is you can apply for elk, deer, antelope,

541
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: so you can apply for all three of those if

542
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: you want to do a limited controlled hunt, or you

543
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: can choose one of the three sheep, moose, goat. If

544
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: you apply for a sheep tag, a moose tag, or

545
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: a goat tag, you cannot apply for anything else. The

546
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: reason they do that is to just increase the odds

547
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: of people who choose to try to apply for those.

548
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: But remember there's no points. So I think that those

549
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: are probably some of the better states for sheep, moose,

550
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: and goat because you're in the same pool as everybody's

551
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: been doing it for a while, and you're limiting. You're

552
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: weeding out some of the people that might be applying

553
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: for deer or elk, or antelope or one of the

554
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: other species. So that's something to keep in mind. Montana,

555
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: that's where I do a lot of my fighting. There's

556
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: options for non residents for sheep, moose, goat, elk, deer, antelope. Now,

557
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: Montana is a bonus point state, and then those points

558
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: are squared each year. So if you, like I said

559
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: earlier in the example, if you have ten points, it's

560
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: squared ten times ten plus that year's application. So the

561
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: longer you apply, the higher chances of drawing. However, the

562
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: cool thing is you do not have to have max

563
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: points to draw. You could draw it your first year.

564
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: You could draw it your tenth year. You always have

565
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: a chance, it's just your chance gets greater the longer

566
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: you go. So Nevada is a great state as well.

567
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: It has a bonus point system. It's also squared like Montana,

568
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: so same deal. You can apply. You could get it

569
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: your first year, you're more likely to get it later.

570
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: There's great deer hunting, elk hunting, really good trophy units,

571
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: and it's a great state to apply for for the

572
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: top end type hunts. Um. There are some good hunts

573
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: that are easier to draw, but I'd say most the

574
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: hunts and Nevada are fairly hard to draw. But if

575
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: you do draw, you're gonna have a really good experience

576
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: because there's fewer hunters and higher quality of animals in

577
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot of areas. But then the trouble is getting

578
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: the tag. New Mexico. New Mexico has no points similar

579
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: to Idaho, the odds are a lot better if you

580
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: apply with an outfit or in New Mexico. I've drawn

581
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: in all the years I've applied in New Mexico one tag.

582
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: I drew a deer tag in archery late season deer tag,

583
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: but in one of their better archery or deer units.

584
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Now it is random draw and you do have to

585
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: front a lot of the license fees up front, but

586
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: that what that does is that kind of cuts down

587
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: on your competition and the amount of people applying. So

588
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: that's something to consider too. If you have a credit card,

589
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: you don't mind putting some of those fees on. It's

590
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: a great state to apply for because it causes a

591
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: little bit of barrier to entry in order to increase

592
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: odds for the people that do apply because there is

593
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: no points system there. Oregon is another state that's preference

594
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: for deer, elk, and antelope. A lot of the top

595
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: end units extremely hard to draw. You might not ever

596
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: be able to catch that top preference point level if

597
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: you're just starting out, But you can also look for

598
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: other species and other tags in that state that may

599
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: not be a max point type hunt. There's black tails,

600
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: there's roosevelt elk. There's a lot of opportunity for people

601
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: kind of looking for those hunts. There's also some over

602
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: the counter opportunities there. And then sheep and goat. There

603
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: are no points for that, so if you're just starting out,

604
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: another great place to think about because there are no points.

605
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: Utah max bonus point state. They also have a general

606
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: deer season, which is just purely preference. So what they

607
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: have is they've got to mix a little bit of

608
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: everything except for the random draw. So they have bonus

609
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: points where the max the person with the most points

610
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: gets a tag, and then after that they do the

611
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: random bonus point draw and then they have the general

612
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: deer tag which is just pure preference. Point one with

613
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: the most tags or the most points gets its in

614
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: the general dear cheg drawing. Washington another bonus point state,

615
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: also squared just to give you an exponential gain over

616
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: the guy one year behind you. And then Wyoming is

617
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: just a pure preference point state, so another great one.

618
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: If you want to plan a few years out or

619
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: into the future, you can look at how many points

620
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna take, and you've got that preference point right there.

621
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: Now they're they're goat and Bison has no points, but

622
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: for everything else, it's all preference. Out of that list

623
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: of states, what I think you should do is just

624
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: pick a couple and focus on those states, narrow it down,

625
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: and then start doing a little bit of research state

626
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: by state. So almost every state online has some form

627
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: of in depth statistics on their phishing game websites. They

628
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: have draw results, draw odds, harvest success rates. That's where

629
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: I start. If I know nothing about the state or

630
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: the area, and I'm looking for an area that's purely

631
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 1: big elk and just a good hunt, I'm gonna go

632
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: to the elks section, I'm gonna pull up draws, and

633
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably look for the area with the hardest

634
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: to draw odds and then confirm how that hunt is

635
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: based on the success rate. So if it's got really

636
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: high success rate, really hard to draw, it's probably a

637
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: really good unit and it's probably going to take you

638
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: a long time to draw. Now, there's also a ton

639
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: of other resources available out there online. There's a lot

640
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: of application services and just magazines. You can join Epic

641
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Outdoors and some other ones. Just Western Hunter Magazine has

642
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: some great just information in their state by state information.

643
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: Maybe not unit specific like some of the other publications,

644
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: but there's a ton of information on exact units. I

645
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: like to do my own research on the states, and

646
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: that's kind of what I want to touch on a

647
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: little bit here, is just picking those states and then

648
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: start diving into ways to narrow down your search there

649
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: also looking at state record books. Those can give you

650
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: ideas on counties to focus on for bigger animals. If

651
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: you aren't so interested in the bigger animals, you just

652
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: want that opera tuning, I just want a good opportunity

653
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: to go hunt. Then what I start to look for

654
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: is areas with good draw odds and higher success rates,

655
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: higher than average success rates. So if you start thinking, okay,

656
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: an elk hunt, you look over the state averages and

657
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: maybe they're hovering around. But you find an area that

658
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: takes it's a pretty good chance of drawing, and it's

659
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: got thirty forty percent success rate higher than average. Okay,

660
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: that that could be an indicator of this is a

661
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: good area with a lot of animals. Once you've narrowed

662
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: those areas down, then you can always kind of start

663
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: researching that area. Talk to people on the ground, talk

664
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to other hunters on websites and forums, talked to phishing

665
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 1: game officers, biologists, and just kind of build out an

666
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: idea of what this hunt will look like. One thing

667
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: that I will stress is I have a lot of

668
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 1: points in a lot of places, but I've I've drawn

669
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: very few what I would consider extremely like premium limited

670
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: entry tags. So the best of the best there's somewhere

671
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I have enough points to do it, I just haven't

672
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: had the time to do it. But a lot of

673
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 1: them I just haven't had the luck and drawn those

674
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: really good tags. So what I do is I would

675
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: say most of my hunts are literally on general units

676
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: or what I would consider as close to over the

677
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: counter tags as possible. Maybe it's everybody that applies gets it,

678
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: but you've got to apply before this certain date. So

679
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about your tag strategy and you think, okay,

680
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: I want to go hunt, Let's say we're just gonna

681
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: pick up a random state we're gonna hunt. You want

682
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: to hunt Idaho or Montana, let's say, and you know, okay,

683
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: I want to hunt there. But what I would do

684
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: is I would find a state where there are general

685
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: type tags are easier to draw tags as a backup,

686
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: so you can apply for say the same state Montana.

687
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: You can apply for a tag there and try to

688
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: draw harder to get unit, and if you don't get it,

689
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: you default to a general area tag. There's a lot

690
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: of states that have it, because if you're already fronting

691
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: the money for the application fee and the license and tags,

692
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: then you might as well already start to plan a

693
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: hunt in that state as well. Now, when you apply

694
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: for the permits, you're gonna get a lot of that

695
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: money back, but there is a portion of that that

696
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: the state retains and a lot of that goes to

697
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: your license fee. So each state is different. When you

698
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: start picking a state, looking to the license fee and

699
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: then look into some over the counter options there in

700
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: case you don't draw anything for me, like California is

701
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: always one that I use as over the counter tag

702
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: if I don't draw anything else. There's other states like that.

703
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: Idaho is another good one for that. Montana with their

704
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: general tags, there's some wyoming leftover tags. Arizona has some

705
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: great leftover tags. So when you pick a state, think

706
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: about and research some of the over the counter or

707
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: general area tags as well as they're limited entry tags,

708
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: because if you're already applying, maybe that's a way to

709
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: save that license fee and use that that year and

710
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: maybe have a hunt right now while you're waiting for

711
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: those other hens to transpire. Because I think most people

712
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: that can techt me they say, hey, look, I just

713
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: want to go on my first elk hunt. There's all

714
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: this application information out there, where do I even start?

715
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: So you start by making a plan figuring out which

716
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: you want to hunt when you apply for that state.

717
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: Pick say three states if you can afford that. If not,

718
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: just pick one state and start working your way up.

719
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: Working your way up the ladder too a preference point hunt,

720
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: but see if there's a you can find the sweet

721
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: spot where there's a state that you can get a

722
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: general or an easy to draw a tag where you

723
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: can just go so as promised, I want to give

724
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: you guys some tricks that I've used in the past

725
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: to just get drawn sooner. And I think the trick

726
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: to getting drawn is a combination of persistence and then

727
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: balancing opportunity and trophy quality. So what that might mean

728
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: is adjusting certain things like season dates, unit choices, and

729
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 1: weapon choice. So I'm just I've got four tricks here

730
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: that I use constantly. The first one always gain a

731
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: point if you have the option. There's some states where

732
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: you can apply for a hunt and you don't accumulate

733
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: a point because you don't want to spend the extra

734
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: twenty bucks. It's not worth doing. If you can get

735
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: a point, get a point in as many places as

736
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: you can. Honestly, if you think about it, in your

737
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: application strategy, you're much better picking one place and just

738
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: hitting it until you quit it, you know, just getting

739
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: the points. They're building the points then going blanket broadcast

740
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: effects choosing a bunch of states and not building anything anywhere,

741
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: just trying to hope that random luck. You're just a

742
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: lot better picking one place and sticking to it. If

743
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: you only got a limited amount of resources, I would

744
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: suggest consistently doing the same place over and over building

745
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: points so you can at least build for something in

746
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: the future. And within that, if you're picking a state,

747
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: find a state where if you have to put up

748
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: front fees and you decide you want to do a

749
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: more general area hunt, they have some options to actually hunt,

750
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: not just to apply trick number two. Go a little

751
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: more primitive now some of the better units, say rifle

752
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: tags can be hard to draw, but you might look

753
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: in some of those areas and muzzleloader hunts might be available,

754
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: archery hunts might be available. There's a lot of states

755
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: like Arizona where to draw a rifle tag is nearly impossible,

756
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Yet you can get an archery tag over the counter

757
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: and go hunt that same unit. So it's a good

758
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: idea to look at what are some good areas, and

759
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: then if I switch up my weapon choices, will I

760
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: be able to get a tag there a lot easier.

761
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: Trick number three. Change the dates of the hunts. The

762
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: premier hunts, the hardest draw hunts, if you start looking

763
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: through state regulations, are gonna be those rut hunts elk rut,

764
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: mule deer rut. So the September hunts for elk, especially

765
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: if the rifle, and the November hunts for mule deer.

766
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: But a lot of those states have tags in those

767
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: areas outside of the rut that are easier to draw

768
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: and may even be considered in a general unit. So

769
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: that's something to think about. Is okay, find an area

770
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: when you're doing your state research, look at it. What's

771
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: an area that's hard to draw a high success rate?

772
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 1: And then look at other seasons where tags are available there.

773
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: You may find that a second season or a later

774
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: season in there is easy to get a tag. Now,

775
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: it might not be is a much success, but if

776
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: you have a tag in your pocket, you're gonna have

777
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: a lot more success than if you don't. And so

778
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: that's a trick that I use a lot, changing it

779
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: to more of an off period time where you just

780
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: gotta hunt a little bit harder. But as long as

781
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: you have a tag in a good area, you're hunting

782
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: the best area, just not the best season. And that's

783
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: a really good trick to think about. And then the

784
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: fourth trick is joining forces with other hunters that might

785
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: have more points than you. If you're building up points

786
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: in one state, now not every state. You can do this,

787
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: but certain states, when you apply as a party, what

788
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: they do is they split the number of points and

789
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: then the average them you go in is one application. Well,

790
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: if you've got a buddy, you say, hey, find a

791
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: state where you can build points and he can build points,

792
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: and then you guys apply as a party later on

793
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: down the road where you can split the points for

794
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: each state's application, and it's a great way to do

795
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: it a little bit cheaper. Now, you might accidentally draw

796
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: your nev add a tag while building up some points

797
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: on the way. Good for you, that's awesome. But you know,

798
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: five years down the road, you can say, hey, let's

799
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: apply as a party. You split the points and you

800
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: both go in with three points if you had five points.

801
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: So that's just a good way to think about maybe

802
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: getting into a tag a little bit sooner, finding some

803
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: people or friends that have points, other places you build

804
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: points somewhere else, and maybe later on down the road

805
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: and decide, hey, let's apply for a party this year.

806
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: You know, we might have a good chance to draw,

807
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: and you'll have somebody to hunt with as well. So

808
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: that's just another thought. If you don't have points, maybe

809
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: you can find somebody that you know that has points

810
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 1: somewhere else, asked to start applying with them, because look,

811
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna save them money and they're gonna have somebody

812
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: to hunt with when you go to split the hunt

813
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: costs and the travel costs to get there. It's always

814
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: fun to hunt with a friend or a buddy. So

815
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: talk to people that you know. Maybe they've been building

816
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: points somewhere else and it might be beneficial for you. Guys.

817
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: The team up and apply as a party. And now

818
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: I should talk about cause some people think, oh, if

819
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: you apply as a party, you go in you get

820
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: more chances in there. That's not true. You go in

821
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,959
Speaker 1: is one application and if that one application is drawn,

822
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: then you both get tags. So it's the same odds.

823
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: But the guy with lower points can sometimes get higher points.

824
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 1: That you can help your friends out, or your friends

825
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: could help you out. While it might seem like a

826
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: lot to digest over a podcast, really just start thinking

827
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: about the states right down a couple and then start

828
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: doing your research on it. That's where you start, and

829
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: then you narrow it down onto a unit, and you

830
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: narrow that unit into an area. So you start big

831
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: and then you start focusing in. That's the way that

832
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: I plan my hunts every year. I've done it for years,

833
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: and when I started out, it was difficult because there

834
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: wasn't so much information out there. If you're just new

835
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: to it, subscribe to something where they give you a

836
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: little bit more information about it. But honestly, you don't

837
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: have to because you can get all the information that

838
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: all these services use is free information. It's out there

839
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: on the state websites. You can do your own research

840
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: the fishing game. State web sites are incredible resources. I

841
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: go through every state's website every year, looking at data

842
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: points that they put out there, you know, researching units,

843
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: looking at draw odds, looking at harvest success rates, and

844
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: then I plan my hunts based a lot around that

845
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: and then talking to people on the ground. What you

846
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: gotta do is you just gotta pick those places and

847
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: start applying, because the application seasons now and the hunt

848
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: that you have this fall may be dependent on what

849
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: you did in the research you did. Right now. This

850
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: time of year, a lot of the deadlines are gonna

851
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: start coming up, and they're gonna come up fast, So

852
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: make sure that you pick your state, you figure out

853
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: when the deadlines are, what you need to apply, how

854
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: much it's gonna cost, and then start narrowing it down,

855
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: doing some research and finding your area for your hunt.

856
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: This season, there was a lot to digest. There, a

857
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: lot of things to think about, a few things to

858
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: write down, and a lot of good homework before the

859
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 1: season comes. But I can probably have broken that down

860
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: into five podcasts and gone months and months, but by

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Speaker 1: just want to give you my best tips, the best

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Speaker 1: things state by state, and go from there. You know,

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Speaker 1: feel free to reach out with some of your ideas

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Speaker 1: on your applications. I cannot get to everyone. If it's

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Speaker 1: shoot your message back. I try to get too as

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Speaker 1: many as I can. But yeah, thank you guys so

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Speaker 1: much for listening in. I can't wait to see how

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Speaker 1: just go with it, man, don't be afraid you're doing

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Speaker 1: something wrong. There are no wrong answers. Nobody has a

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Speaker 1: run with it. So until next week, I hope that

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Speaker 1: you guys get some applications out there. Just start thinking

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Speaker 1: We're in the golden age of it right now. So

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Speaker 1: get your apps in there, start planning your elk hunt,

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