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Speaker 1: So definitely going to dive into that. Day ball hired

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Speaker 1: But I think we need to start with the Bills

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Speaker 1: because chef throughout this morning, Joe Brady has been hired

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Speaker 1: My initial take, like right when I saw it, was

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Speaker 1: And now, unlike Shawn who by the time this year happened,

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Speaker 1: had some juice, had been winning, Like wasn't just gonna

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Speaker 1: A lot of times coaches are not correct in their evaluations.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even see how it's debatable right now

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Speaker 1: academics clearly don't matter anymore, and they pay me premiums.

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Speaker 1: So that has greatly impacted the draft. So when I

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Speaker 1: see this notion of like these awful teams, these god

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Speaker 1: awful teams, they're like, oh, they got a couple of picks.

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Speaker 1: So there's not exactly like Khalil Mack and Jamar Chase

432
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Speaker 1: aren't just sitting in this draft pool. Waiting to get picked.

433
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Speaker 1: That's Micah Parsons ain't staring in the face here. This

434
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Speaker 1: is at the top viewed as like, no, they great

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Speaker 1: of a draft. That's why I f I'm the Kanzie

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Speaker 1: Chiefs drafting ninth. I don't think there's a big difference

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Speaker 1: between ninth and second. I think we're getting the same

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Speaker 1: player we're Some years, when the elites are in a draft,

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Speaker 1: there's a big difference between drafting second or third, or

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Speaker 1: ninth or tenth. I don't think that's the case this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think you get a similar talent at pick

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Speaker 1: twelve as you can at twenty four. And that's because

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Speaker 1: of the depth of the draft, the high end talent

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Speaker 1: in this draft, so that impacts who not the really

445
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Speaker 1: good teams like that's not gonna have dramatic effect on

446
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Speaker 1: the Bills or the Jags or the Texans that are

447
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: just looking to plug a spot here or there. It's

448
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Speaker 1: the shitty teams. So the Jets, for example, who got

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Speaker 1: rid of their high couple high end players Quentin Williams

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Speaker 1: sasgarter like guys with Pro Bowl upside who are impact

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Speaker 1: starters at premium positions where you traded away those guys

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Speaker 1: for picks, and it's like, are you gonna get the

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Speaker 1: equivalent talent for those guys? Last I checked, both of

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Speaker 1: those were really high picks and viewed as premium players. Well,

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Speaker 1: Quinn Williams and Sauce Garter coming out of college would

456
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Speaker 1: be arguably, beside Mendoza, who's a lock to go number one,

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Speaker 1: be in the mix to be the first player taken

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Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft probably would be probably go two

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Speaker 1: and three. Now, I understand they're older and financially they're

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Speaker 1: different impacts, but my point is simple, is these bad teams,

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Speaker 1: this draft ain't saving you, Like you're not gonna look

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Speaker 1: up and go God. They got Earl Thomas, Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: and Cam Chancellor out of that one. Obviously, there's some

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Speaker 1: randomness to draft. You never truly know, and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: find Pro Bowl guys in random rounds. It happens every

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Speaker 1: single year for random teams. But I don't think this

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Speaker 1: draft is viewed as the savior, like some of these

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna hype it up to their fans. I

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Speaker 1: just got this text while I was recording from producer

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Speaker 1: Jackson on the three and Out group text, and my

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Speaker 1: first reaction is the NFL should be ashamed and these

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Speaker 1: people that voted should have their vote revoked. Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: the eight time Super Bowl winning head coach, obviously six

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Speaker 1: as a head coach, two as a coordinator, is not

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Speaker 1: a first Hall of Famer, per Wickershan and Don Van Natta,

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Speaker 1: Belichick fell short of the forty out of fifty votes

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Speaker 1: needed for the introduction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand personal biases. When someone is a dick or

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Speaker 1: an asshole to other individuals in any field, in any

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Speaker 1: walk of life, those people are not gonna like the

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Speaker 1: other person, especially when I don't work with you. You don't

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Speaker 1: make me any money. If you're in sports, it's not

483
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Speaker 1: like I'm on your team. You're winning, doesn't It is

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Speaker 1: bad for me. I get it. But if I'm voting

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Speaker 1: for an award or something like introduction the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: my bias and agenda and my thoughts toward you as

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Speaker 1: a human being, which clearly people hate Bill Belichick. They

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Speaker 1: have forever. Besides, like you know, an Andy Reid, like

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Speaker 1: individual coaches that are somewhat similar to his age that

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Speaker 1: have known him for a long time. Mike Lombardi people

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Speaker 1: around the NFL, not players like Brady or whatever, but

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Speaker 1: some writers, media people, some former coaches his right his

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to say colleagues, but his competition.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people did not like the League office

495
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: can't stand them. But you can't, with a straight face

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Speaker 1: tell me that Bill Belichick is not a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. You can't tell me with a straight

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Speaker 1: face that Bill Belichick is not one of the greatest coaches,

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Speaker 1: if not the greatest coach we've ever seen. He is

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Speaker 1: right up there with the Lombardes, the Walshes, what Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid has done with Kansas City. He is an all

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Speaker 1: time great and a no doubt about it, first ballot

503
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. If Bill Belichick is not a first

504
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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, I don't know who is. Because

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Speaker 1: when it comes to players, I've always had a problem

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Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame. Like to me, when I

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Speaker 1: think of it, I think of Montana Brady, Lawrence Taylor,

508
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Speaker 1: Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, Dion Sanders, like the best of

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Speaker 1: the best. Jerry Rice, I do has been diluted a

510
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Speaker 1: little bit, But a lot of those guys like obviously

511
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Speaker 1: don't get in him the first time. It takes them

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Speaker 1: a little while. It kind of is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But if you tell me, we walk into Hall of

514
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Speaker 1: Fame like there's a big difference where the elite of

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Speaker 1: the elite are sitting and some of the other guys

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Speaker 1: in there right there. When it comes to the coaches,

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Speaker 1: if we did a mount rushmore of coaches in the

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Speaker 1: sport of football, no one would argue you could include college.

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is on it. So these people that didn't

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Speaker 1: vote for him should be fucking ashamed of themselves because

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Speaker 1: he was a dick to you, because he didn't give

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Speaker 1: you a good quote. I can't even imagine justifying it

523
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Speaker 1: with not checking his name, because to me, voting for

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick when he's Hall of Fame eligible is as

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Speaker 1: easy as voting for Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, or

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or pick Aaron Donald, pick whoever you want.

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Speaker 1: Who just one of the best players I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. That to me is Bill Bellich

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Speaker 1: as a coach. This isn't some morning television show. We're

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Speaker 1: debating Belichick k Brady. Who's this is simply is he

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Speaker 1: the best coach of his generation. Answer yes, is he

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer? Answer yes? Is he a first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer? If you just went, if we

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Speaker 1: were sitting at a bar ordering some Bruskies, getting some snacks,

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Speaker 1: bullshit talking ball.

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone at the bar, even the people that

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Speaker 2: hated him, even the people that couldn't stand Bill Belichick's

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Speaker 2: curmudgeon ass, that would debate that he's a first ballot

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I'd be ashamed if I was those guys.

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Speaker 1: We need to dox them. I need to know who

542
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Speaker 1: they are so I can immediately unfollow them. And those

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00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: people have to be a little nervous about getting docked,

544
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: about getting exposed, because even if you can't stand Bill,

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Speaker 1: we would all be in agreement that he should go

546
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: immediate lean to the Hall of Fame when he's eligible.

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Speaker 1: And I get like, if I was all these teams,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't touch him anymore, not at this point, not

549
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: with his age, not with his attitude, not with Jordaan.

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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not even acting like these teams

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Speaker 1: at this point are making dumb decisions by not even contacting.

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Speaker 1: And he knew that, like Bill's no dummy, So why

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00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: he went to North Carolina. He knew he was never

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Speaker 1: getting hired in the NFL ever again, but to not

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Speaker 1: get the votes to go to the Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing? That's I'm embarrassed for everyone involved.

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Speaker 1: the pod, appreciate it. Question for the back As a

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Speaker 1: Steeler fan, I know they have many questions to answer

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Speaker 1: with the roster, including defense and the quarterback. Would it

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Speaker 1: be worth taking a mid round pick on Clubnik or

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Speaker 1: Smyer to see if they can develop? Thanks, well, you

583
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: just did that last year with I get Riley Leonards

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Speaker 1: on the Colts, Will Howard's on the Steelers. You kind

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Speaker 1: of did that with you know what? Six round. To me,

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Speaker 1: club Nick, I watched a decent amount of Clemson over

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Speaker 1: the years because he was such a hyped player. I

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Speaker 1: do not see it. Seems like a good kid, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's very good at football. Nussmeier. To me,

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Speaker 1: neus Meyer is much more like a dome like Cousins

591
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Speaker 1: was for the Vikings or maybe Drew Brees with the Saints.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a big arm, so to me, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have a big arm, like, I'm not messing

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Speaker 1: with you in that division, in that conference. I need

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Speaker 1: a big arm quarterback in the AFC. Good franchises all

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Speaker 1: play outside and until everyone's in a dome like the weather.

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Speaker 1: That impacts to me, like, who's the best quarterback at

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Speaker 1: least of my lifetime for you guys, Roethlisberger, huge arm.

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Speaker 1: Think of just Super Bowl champs, Peyton Manning playing a dome.

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Speaker 1: Right you go, Brady big arm, Eli, big arm, McNabb,

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Speaker 1: big arm, Mahomes, big arm, Josh Allen, big arm. Lamar's arm,

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Speaker 1: I would say, is a howitzer, but it's not bad,

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Speaker 1: and the running element is elite, and he's very comfortable

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Speaker 1: playing in the cold. So I need big arm quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the elements. I just do Burrow somewhat of an outlier,

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Speaker 1: but he's just an all time elite player who didn't

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Speaker 1: play that well this year. Congrats on the baby. Truly

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Speaker 1: a life changing event. I agree. Kids unlock a whole

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Speaker 1: new range of human emotion that he didn't understand till

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Speaker 1: you have them. I agree. When you see the guy

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Speaker 1: get get a little chop chopped. This morning at the

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Speaker 1: pediatrician's office. You just that those tiers, the screaming tears,

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Speaker 1: really really hit your soul, especially when they're really young.

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Speaker 1: A couple of weeks old, really impacts my wife Quick

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Speaker 1: Brown's sake. I think that has are the poor man's

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Jimmy keeps underperforming team relevant by manufacturing drama

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Speaker 1: instead of winning. Johnny manzel Baker was a mouthy savior.

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00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: Watson kept the Browns in the headlines. Now the Shaduur

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Speaker 1: noise and trying to flex the brain power with his

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Speaker 1: coaching search. Constant quarterback turn coaching turnover leaks feel intentional.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones wrote the playbook Love Your Thoughts. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's trying. I really don't, because part of Jerry

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Speaker 1: is Jerry is the show. Jerry does press conferences time

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Speaker 1: every game day, right in the locker room after the game.

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Speaker 1: Jerry does a weekly radio hit. Jerry talks twice a

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Speaker 1: week during the season and sometimes more. I don't feel

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Speaker 1: I hear from Jimmy Haslm that much. I think Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Haslam is unintentionally doing this. And I also think Jimmy Haslam,

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Speaker 1: who clearly meddles gives his coach and GM a little

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Speaker 1: more room to kind of screw themselves and then he

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Speaker 1: turns on But I I don't see it the same.

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Speaker 1: I think Jerry somewhat of an outlier. He never shuts up.

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Speaker 1: I mean he never does. I feel like I don't

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Speaker 1: hear Jimmy Haslam talk that often. Now. I'm not following

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Speaker 1: the Browns day to day, but I actually follow a

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Speaker 1: decent amount of Mary Kay a couple other people around

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Speaker 1: quotes all the time, even the leak, And I don't

639
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: think it was a leak. I think Pelasarro when he

640
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: said that they are demanding homework and essays, was just

641
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: reiterating what coaches were telling him. Like, I don't think

642
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: the Browns wanted that out. I actually very confident saying

643
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: the Browns would not want that out. The Browns would

644
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: not want that out. Grats. I'm becoming a dad, just

645
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: became a grandfather in November. Congratulations. Why does the media

646
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: hold Stefanski and Kevin O'Connell as these elite coaches. I

647
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: do not see it. Stefanski's latest third round pick and

648
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: koc not keeping Donald only thing I see is they

649
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: both have top ten defenses last season. I do think

650
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, I mean, he got thirty five touchdowns out

651
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: of Darnald two years ago. Cousins had a really good year.

652
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: I've seen him with good quarterbacks have a really good season.

653
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 1: I do think the Browns feel it's It's why Jim Schwartz,

654
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: as of recording this, might get hired as their next coach.

655
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz is really good defensive coordinator. Was defensive coordinator

656
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: for the Eagles when they won the Super Bowl. Their

657
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: defense was really really good. Maybe not in that Super

658
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 1: Bowl because I think Brady threw for like seven hundred

659
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: and seventy five yards, but overall, like Jim Schwartz is

660
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: a high end defensive mind. It's why the Browns are

661
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: trying to like kind of get some young guy and

662
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: keep Schwartz. But clearly Schwartz is telling them I might leave,

663
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: so they want to keep them. It's kind of complicated.

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Speaker 1: I do think that Stefanski has been carried by defense

665
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: more than Kevin O'Connell. I do philosophically agree with Stefanski

666
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: more than I do Kevin O'Connell. Kevin O'Connell is Sean

667
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: mcvay's doppelganger. Not physically much taller, little more receding hairline.

668
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: Obviously Sean's got good hair. But they love throwing the ball.

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00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: That they are the young versions of Andy. Kevin Stefanski

670
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: is much closer to a defensive minded head coach or

671
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannan, like he wants to run the ball way more,

672
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: which I respect and I do think translates in big games.

673
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: So I think both are just smart guys who no

674
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: offense are viewed as like quarterback guys. But I'm with you,

675
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: like defensively, especially last year. I don't put the Donald

676
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: cousins JJ McCarthy that all on Kevin O'Connell. I just

677
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: don't remember a couple of years ago Kevin O'Connell won

678
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: to keep Kirk Cousins. I don't know there have been

679
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: stories written about all the details with the Donald thing.

680
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: I do think it's hard when you draft JJ McCarthy.

681
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: Most teams in the history of the NFL would have

682
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: done that. You just better be right. And here's what

683
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: I would say. They are not drafting JJ McCarthy without

684
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: him putting a stamp of approval on it. And if

685
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: you're putting your stamp of approval on a guy who

686
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: comes from a running offense with a great college defense,

687
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: pretty risky who then you need to change his mechanics.

688
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: Like as we sit here a year away, if Donald

689
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: were to win the Super Bowl, it's an all time

690
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: f up. There's no way around it. Like the Cousins

691
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: thing towards Achilles. You move, that's not that crazy. But

692
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: then you get Donald for one year, ten million dollars,

693
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: and you overreact to those last two games. I think

694
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: if he had played well in those last two games,

695
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: even if they lose, Donald might still be on the team.

696
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: But I think once he kind of shited the bed

697
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: and the offense fell apart, and I thought Kevin O'Connell

698
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: did a terrible job in those games. It's like, hey, bro,

699
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks rattled by this pressure. Run the ball or

700
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: run some like quick screens. But he's obsessed with like

701
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: long drop back deep passes. It's what he did with

702
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: JJ McCarty right away. It's like, Kevin JJ McCarty is

703
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: not gonna play like he's Josh Allen, right, Stop having

704
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: him slinging around like he's justin Herbert have him hand

705
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: the ball off, but he doesn't want to call runs

706
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 1: like most coaches. They got loss. I think that's the case.

707
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: You could do worse. I would take Kevin O'Connell over

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00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, even though I don't always agree with the

709
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: way he calls offense. I just think he's better with players.

710
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: I still go back to the Stefanski thing. The players

711
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: like him. I'm not saying they don't. I just haven't

712
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: seen many guys say they do. That's all I'm saying.

713
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear people like Kevin O'Connell a lot, and

714
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: that matters to me. Like this isn't nineteen and I'm

715
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: an old school guy. I was raising a very old

716
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: school home. There are certain things that I will teach

717
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: my son that are not going to go out of

718
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: style in my house, that I promise will translate well

719
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: until society crumbles. But things do change a little bit

720
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: over time. And the coach just being the dictator, it's

721
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: not quite that way. You have to be hand in

722
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: hand with the players. Andy Reid is excellent with that.

723
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: McVeigh Kyle, they're really good at that. Sean Payton can

724
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a dictator. You can't, but

725
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: he's old enough where he can still kind of pull

726
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: it off. Mike Rabel's pretty player friendly. He's on your ass,

727
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: but he's player friendly. I need the players to really

728
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: like you. I just do. I mean, And I think

729
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell has that. I wish you'd run the ball more.

730
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: If he'd run the ball more, and I think he'd

731
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: be an elite coach, and maybe he will over time.

732
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: The Rams defense let Stafford down. He was cooking. Realistically,

733
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: they should have won that game. If McVeigh had taken

734
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: the field goal on the fourth and goal from the

735
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: four yard line, they got the ball back and needed

736
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: a touchdown. If they kicked, they would have just needed

737
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: a field goal down thirty three to thirty one. Do

738
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: you think he made the right call to go for it.

739
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: I do think at the time I would have gone

740
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: for to I think the mistake was, if I remember correctly,

741
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: they did not throw to Puka or DeVante on either pass.

742
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: I think they wanted to go to DeVante on the

743
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: third and four and he was like kind of bracketed

744
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: covered and Stafford kind of had to go off him.

745
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: I think, under no circumstances can you run two plays

746
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: essentially that are touchdown or bus plays, and not throw

747
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: it to a Hall of Fame wide receiver in DeVante

748
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: who is an elite red zone target and arguably the

749
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the league in twenty twenty five.

750
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: And Poka Nkua, who's just cooking that game again, who

751
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: has like six hundred yards and two games against these guys,

752
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: and they threw it to two other guys. So I

753
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: think that if McVeigh could do it over, he would

754
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: have called basically two plays that he would have had

755
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: to throw to one of the two of them. I'd

756
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: rather throw an interception going at one of those guys

757
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: than throwing incomplete past at another guy, So I think

758
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: and listen. Sean Payton Seth Wickersham talked to him after

759
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: the game, and Sean Payton said, on that fourth down

760
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: where he went for it on fourth and one to

761
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: stead of kicking the field goal, He's like, we called

762
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: the play and we got the look we wanted. The

763
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: problem was is they changed the defense from the look,

764
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: so when the ball was snapped, the look they got

765
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: was not the defense that comes with that look. And

766
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: I said, Sean, you're in the AFC championship game. Well,

767
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: who are you gonna play in the in the championship games,

768
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: the best teams and the best coaches. You're going up

769
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: against Mike Vrabel and his young defensive coordinator. Well, what

770
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: did Mike Vrabel in his heyday as a player in

771
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: the hang their hat on? Tricking you, showing you things

772
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: and doing other things. That's the name of the game.

773
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: So just because you quote unquote get the look you want,

774
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: you're not guaranteed to get that defense post snap. You're

775
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: playing Mike McDonald, you're playing Mike Vrabel. They're gonna throw curveballs,

776
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: especially in situations like fourth and goal or big downs

777
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: like third and one, midfield, They're gonna throw things that

778
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: you don't expect. That's what they do during the week.

779
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: They go, Hey, we got this tendency. They're gonna think

780
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna get that. We're gonna show them this look,

781
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do the opposite of what they think

782
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: is coming. And I thought, Sean, like, being an innovative

783
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: offensive coach, you should be prepared for that. It's why

784
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: I go back to I think you gotta kick the

785
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: field goal, and I think it's the biggest mistake of

786
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: the game, biggest mistake of the weekend, bigger mistake than

787
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: what you brought up with McVeigh going for it. Of course,

788
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: they're throwing shit at you. Who people how to play

789
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: defense when he was a player, Bill Belichick, the guy

790
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: that can't make the Hall of Fame, but whose game

791
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: plan from playing Joe Montana and Jim Kelly in Super

792
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: Bowls and NFC Championship games are in the Hall of Fame.

793
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's He's been a defensive genius for forty years,

794
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: still can't make Super Bowl. We all got to agree,

795
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: that's crazy. You can hate the guy and this isn't

796
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Clemens and Barry Bonds and the steroids.

797
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: I get it. I disagree, but like, if you want

798
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: to stand on that argument like that, I can't prove

799
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: who was on him, who wasn't on him. I mean,

800
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: we know those guys were on him, but like who

801
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: else they were playing against. But if that's the hill

802
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna die on, Like what am I gonna say?

803
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick couldn't make the Hall of Fame? What are

804
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: we doing? That's shameful, it really is. I'm embarrassed to

805
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: be associated with the greatest sport in the world, football,

806
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: and that takes place. I don't feel much sympathy for

807
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: uh William Belichick. I do on that one, like that

808
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: that's a joke. It feels like there's talking about collusion,

809
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: like it's the league office. People people hate the guy.

810
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: People hate the guy does show you, you know, it's like,

811
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: try to be nice to people. I've really worked on

812
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: that the last couple of weeks. I think I'm pretty

813
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: nice out there in the real world, but when you're

814
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: sleeping a couple hours here, a couple hours there, my

815
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: tendency is to just be grouchy and angry. I'm just

816
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: every time I go somewhere, I try to force a

817
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: smile and because you realize, like that's that person's interaction

818
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: with you that day. It's the person at the front

819
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: desk of the gym, it's the person at Starbucks, person

820
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: you run into on a walk, and Bill never gave

821
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: a shit about that. It's coming back to buy him,

822
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: even if it's unfair. Huge fan of the pot. I

823
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: hope you're doing really well with your new family. I'm

824
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: a lifelong Steeler fan, and like many I was surprised

825
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: by the recent hire of McCarthy. Do you see any

826
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: world given an offensive mind, where he would actually take

827
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: the Steelers to a playoff victory. We have an aging

828
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: d and of course no quarterback, but do you see

829
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: him bringing a bit more life? Well, you know, the

830
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers things not going away. So Aaron Rodgers wouldn't

831
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: shock me at all if he doesn't. You know, if

832
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: he just plays another year and I listen, I don't

833
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: think this quarterback drafts very good. If Aaron Rodgers doesn't

834
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: come back, could they make a play for a Davis Mills,

835
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: a mac Jones and just give them some stability? Maybe?

836
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: I think if McCarthy was smart, you kind of bought

837
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: him out. And even if it pissed off his fan base,

838
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: McCarthy's proven if you get him, he doesn't need Aaron Rodgers.

839
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is not gonna go to the Hall of Fame.

840
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna make five hundred million dollars and have a

841
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: sweet stats, but he's not Hall of Fame. But he's

842
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: a good player, and Mike McCarthy made him look like

843
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: an awesome player. So if you can just get him

844
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: some version of that's you guys are gonna be good.

845
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: On offense. He's proven that, Like it's not even we

846
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: couldn't even have an argument about that. Because Mike McCarthy

847
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: good at coaching offense. Every single human has to answer, yes,

848
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: is he good at coaching the quarterbacks? Yes, that's really

849
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: important to a franchise that had become kind of offense

850
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: and quarterback lifeless. They tried with Rogers, but at forty

851
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: one forty two, it's just if I was Aaron, I'd

852
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: probably walk away. But you never know what advice do

853
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: you have for reaching out trying to acquire sponsors. Of course,

854
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: your viewership is probably the most important for everyone coming

855
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: to listen. Sponsors, viewers, listeners, platform or anything else I'm missing.

856
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: It depends like if you run more of like a

857
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: local operation, like let's say you live in Baton Rouge

858
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: you run an LSU podcast, or you live in Buffalo

859
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: and you run a bills podcast. I think you should

860
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: try to utilize, especially if you live in the community,

861
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: some of the small businesses in that area and develop

862
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: relationships with restaurant, with local you know, car dealer. I

863
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: remember when I first got into the podcast world, well

864
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: but way before Netflix and Coward, I was just going

865
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: to like car dealers and dming and emailing everyone any sponsor.

866
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: I would hear on someone else's podcast, and a lot

867
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: has changed. This was probably twenty sixteen. I would find

868
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: a way to DM LinkedIn DM, I would kind of

869
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: dirty hustle. Now I was doing a little bit more

870
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: like not necessarily local, but some of my local stuff

871
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area car dealerships, restaurants, companies that were

872
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: really popular in that area, and just kind of guerrilla warfare.

873
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: You kind of got to turn into you got to

874
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: be your own sales guy, and you're gonna get some no's.

875
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't gonna respond. And this could

876
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: be true in any industry. Once you kind of do

877
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: it for, you kind of become numb to it and

878
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: you just make an hour or two a day. I

879
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: don't know if it's your side gig, dedicate some time

880
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: to just spand guerrilla warfaring people, whether that's emails, whether

881
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: that's DMS, whether that's If you have the capability, this

882
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: would always be the number one thing. Go to them.

883
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: If you have previous relationships with some of these people,

884
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: try to utilize them. They can't say no. If you

885
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: don't ask was they probably will say it first. Okay,

886
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: all takes one yes, and once you get one yes,

887
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: maybe the ball starts rolling. Love the podcast. So I

888
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 1: had a question. I just finished playing juco football out

889
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: in Southern California JUCO Champs Golden West. Now that I'm

890
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: done playing here, I really want to get into coaching

891
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: at the college level. If I remember correctly, I know

892
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: you were a grat assistant at Presno. I wanted to

893
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: ask and see if you had any advice on what

894
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: the best route would be for someone like me who

895
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: has a desire to coach at the college level. If

896
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: you have any tips or stories that helped you on

897
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: your journey and would be awesome to hear. Well, one

898
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: thing for the coaching fraternity, especially in college, there are

899
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of camps right seven on seven camps, summer camps.

900
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: I would work those. So you live in California, Southern California, UCLA, USC,

901
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Fresno State, San Diego State, any camp they have as

902
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: a former like you played in junior college, reach out

903
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: to their I don't know, offense defensive coordinator, quality control guy.

904
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: You can find their information on the school website and

905
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: see if you can work the camp. Hit their GMS

906
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: up DM the GMS and see if you can help

907
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: out at the camp or just like if you could

908
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: come study for the day. Right spring is spring practice

909
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: a couple months away. So if you live in southern California,

910
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: you have UCLA, USC and Sande. You have three division

911
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: obviously two Big ten schools at a mountain West Pac

912
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: twelve school in San Diego State, you should try to

913
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: go to their practices. Hey, can I just come to

914
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: your practice and watch? I'm a foreign player and want

915
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: to get into coaching because the most powerful thing you

916
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: have as a coach is developing a couple relationships. And

917
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: once you develop a couple, those things are like a

918
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: spider web. And if you if you meet the right guy,

919
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: if you meet the wide receiver coach at UCLA, in

920
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: two years, he could be the offensive coordinator Ohio State

921
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: or the wide receiver coach for the Rams. You you

922
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: never know, and that all of a sudden you're hanging

923
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: out with the San Diego State coach and five years

924
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: he's the head coach in Texas. I mean, that's that's

925
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: how fast shit happens. So you gotta find a way

926
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 1: to meet guys that are coaching at those universities, which

927
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: is easy in the sense that you just need to

928
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: get access to Hey, can I can I follow you

929
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: for a day at spring practice and come to your meetings?

930
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: I aspire to be a coach. Let's just I don't

931
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: know what position you played, but let's just say you

932
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: play dB. Hey could I just could I just shadow

933
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: you for the day the dB coach. I'll just take

934
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: notes and watch in the back. Who knows, Maybe you

935
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: just develop you have lunch with them, breakfast with them.

936
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: Now you'd be like, well, how do I meet that?

937
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: You just find a way to just unlimited emails, find

938
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: their phone number, maybe show up at the facility. It's

939
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: gonna it might take a little hustle. But you don't

940
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: live in in the middle of nowhere like you are

941
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: in a place where there are and if there are

942
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: northern California, you got cal Stanford, Fresno State, UC Davis,

943
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: Sacks State. When you get you got some successful college

944
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: programs in your area. You might as have to drive

945
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: around and figure it out. Now I don't know your

946
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: your situation. If you want to be a grad assistant,

947
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: you have to get an undergrad degree. So if you're

948
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: done playing j C ball. You do have to continue

949
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: your education and finish with a graduate degree and to

950
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: play or I mean an undergrad degree, and I'm pretty

951
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: sure I don't know for a long time the rules.

952
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: If you want to coach in Division one football, you

953
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: have to have an undergrad degree. That's that's a big deal.

954
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: Got to hear your response to Dion or Shador Sanders

955
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl. I think the NFL officially killed

956
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I saw a lot of people with

957
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: a lot of takes on this. I don't blame them

958
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: for picking Shador cause this game is only about television now.

959
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: And in fairness to this game this year, like it's

960
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 1: been for the last several years, this game has become

961
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: a joke. I fall Sean Merriman on Instagram and he

962
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: posted this picture of like I remember when the Pro

963
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: Bowl used to matter, and it was like Ed Reed

964
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, like all these great in paths. The Pro

965
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: Bowl twenty to thirty years ago was a real. Several

966
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: years ago when Josh Allen would opt out of the

967
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl to play at the at and T Pebble Beach,

968
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: I went this Mac Jones, I think as a rookie

969
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. I said, I'm out. This game

970
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: hasn't mattered well before Shador Sanders. So it's the chador

971
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: was just added to try to get gain some more eyeballs.

972
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: This game, it's it's not It's a flag football game

973
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: at the Moscone Center in San Francisco. It shouldn't have

974
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,879
Speaker 1: anything to do with football. It should just be we're

975
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: picking whoever we want to pick, who's the most famous,

976
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: most Instagram followers, and try to get people to watch.

977
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: We could play trivia, we could do a contest like

978
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: who could throw the ball the farthest. Honestly, remember some

979
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: of those. It happened when I was really young. It'd

980
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: be the Pro Bowl games and it'd be like far

981
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: versus Marino versus Jim Kelly, and they would just try

982
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: to like throw the the hardest, or throw this obstacle

983
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: course and just do stuff like that. Like the there

984
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: is no Pro Bowl anymore. The game doesn't count. Several

985
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: years ago, when when it was clear like no one

986
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: would tackles, like this thing's over, this thing's a rap,

987
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: so people with the should or this thing had become

988
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: a joke way before Shad or Sanders. Way, no one

989
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: will play in the game. And here's the thing. Guys

990
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: are too rich. When you get rich enough, things that

991
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: used to matter no longer matter. It was a really

992
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: big deal. And I bet a lot of those guys,

993
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: like I bet, if we went back to look at

994
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: ray Lewis, probably had like half a million dollar or

995
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty k kicker in his contract to

996
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl. So it was a big deal.

997
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't give a shit. I

998
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: make forty million dollars a year. I make twenty eight

999
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, Brandon and I you quit, signed

1000
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: a seventy five million dollar contract, just quit playing football.

1001
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 1: Who knows if he ever plays again. I'm just out.

1002
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: The money now is so big it's changed the priorities

1003
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: of guys. And I don't blame anyone for not wanting

1004
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: to tackle in a Pro Bowl game where if I

1005
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: get injured, it could derail my career. So I understand that, like,

1006
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: there's too much money in the line for these guys,

1007
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: and the mentalities changed. The world's changed, but the Pro

1008
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: Bowl ceased to exist a long time ago. Chador does

1009
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: not represent the symbolic nature of the embarrassment that this

1010
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: thing is now. That happened years ago. So if you're like,

1011
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: hey we need hey shador available, that'll move the needle,

1012
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: can don coach. They're trying to do anything to get

1013
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: some people to watch. What are they even doing, like

1014
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: a throwing contest with flags? They're not playing football, They're

1015
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: playing TV ratings with no pads and flags or honestly,

1016
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know what is the Pro Bowl? Flag

1017
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: is that you couldn't I have no clue what the

1018
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: event is now, but I know it's not a football

1019
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: game because it's not being a football game. Years ago

1020
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: it officially stopped being a football game, like two years ago.

1021
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: Are they still doing flag? I don't know, but they

1022
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: should just do. They should just do like random stuff

1023
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: like four guys racing the forty maybe swim, you know,

1024
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: two laps in the pool, who wins lifting contest? Like strongman?

1025
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: Maybe like paintball game. I don't know. You can just

1026
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you wanted. But I wouldn't even

1027
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: have a football around because just making a mockery of

1028
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: what it used to be. And I don't want to

1029
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: sound like that guy and get off my long guy,

1030
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: but it used to mean something. The volume