WEBVTT - Trade Reactions

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<v Speaker 1>Breaks breaking down all the biggest NBA storylines. Tuned in

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<v Speaker 1>so the Heat Chat. The Heat Chat with Sista Crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>the best podcast covering all the drama around the association.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at the reaction from the respective teams fan bases.

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<v Speaker 2>Starting in Portland, things are looking good. Things are rosy,

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<v Speaker 2>universal celebration. People are buying Milwaukee Bucks jerseys, probably tickets

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<v Speaker 2>to Deer Park. We all wanted to do right by

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<v Speaker 2>Dame as long as it was right for the Blazers

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<v Speaker 2>and guess what here it is And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>big fuck you to the heat fans. Vast majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Blazer fans are excited. They have four reactions. One relief,

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<v Speaker 2>it's over real, It's over Blazer fans, It's done. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to think about this ever again. Genuine relief

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<v Speaker 2>from rip City that Portland was not bullied into taking

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<v Speaker 2>a bit deal and they no longer have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about Damian and Willard saying mean things about us on

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<v Speaker 2>media Day. Two. Appreciation for Joe Cronin. He was put

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<v Speaker 2>in a terrible position and somehow found a path so

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<v Speaker 2>that all the people who mattered actually became happy moderately

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<v Speaker 2>at least three of course we're putting out memes. We're

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<v Speaker 2>putting out tweets, appreciation, pots, gratitude for Dame. He's the best.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the best. It was the best a Blazer fan

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<v Speaker 2>could ever hope for ten toes down was here a decade,

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<v Speaker 2>did everything that he could to win us a ring.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Dame as a person, I love Dame as

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<v Speaker 2>a player. He's the best Blazer in my mind to

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<v Speaker 2>ever suit up. And I loved r. Vitus a bonus

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<v Speaker 2>I loved I loved Clyde Drexler. But boy, oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>were they not Dame so many moments that he gave us.

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<v Speaker 2>I infamously said that I don't want Dame to win

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<v Speaker 2>a chip if he goes anywhere else. Really, what I

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<v Speaker 2>meant is I don't want a Dame to I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want Dame to win a chip if he went to Miami. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>what I meant that was just me being bitter about Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't stomach the fact that pat Riley would win,

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<v Speaker 2>because he always wins. Watch winning time. It's just gross,

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<v Speaker 2>a little slip back. He just smug And for Portland

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<v Speaker 2>fans feel happiness over the fact that Nurk is not

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<v Speaker 2>there anymore, and that contract's not there anymore, and you

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<v Speaker 2>get a young number one overall draft pick from a

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<v Speaker 2>few years ago who's got a lot left a potential

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<v Speaker 2>in the tank. DeAndre Ayden didn't get a great shake

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<v Speaker 2>in Phoenix, and now you get him and Drew who

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<v Speaker 2>will result in a Hall. And yes, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great way to set the Blazers up for

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<v Speaker 2>the future. So I say, I think it's safe to

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<v Speaker 2>say that Blazer Nation is pretty good. If you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee fan, you've gotta be fucking stunned. You just stunned.

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<v Speaker 2>How did we get this? We didn't even know. We

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was July and it's Christmas. We woke up

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of July and there's a room full

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<v Speaker 2>of presents for us under a tree we didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know should be there. Every Buck site, every Bucks podcast

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<v Speaker 2>is like, huh, how what we thought we were losing? Giannis?

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<v Speaker 2>And all I see is how GM John Big Bass

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<v Speaker 2>Horse pulls some shit off like this. Although Mark Spears

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that the Bucks had preliminary talks with the Blazers,

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<v Speaker 2>no one saw it coming. Just like with the Drew trade.

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<v Speaker 2>La la la la, Holy shit. Woj bomb uh Bucks

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<v Speaker 2>fans also appreciative. They love Drew Holliday. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to let him go, but you can't say no to

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<v Speaker 2>Dame time. AKA it's now called freak time, Pauls. No

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<v Speaker 2>one thinks it's a bad trade. The idea of Dame

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<v Speaker 2>keeping defenses from collapsing on Giannis is gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, they've got unbridled giddy excitement. They've moved from

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth favorite plus six hundred to the leader in

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<v Speaker 2>the clubhouse in one minute, in literally a minute. If

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know how happy this fase was, the hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>of variations of I'm glad I wore white pants today

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<v Speaker 2>joke would have been a dead giveaway. And rightly so,

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<v Speaker 2>this combo is going to be deadly. Number one duo

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<v Speaker 2>in the East, probably number one duo in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a Sixers and Celtics fan, you're like, how

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<v Speaker 2>are we guarding that? We used to just build a

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<v Speaker 2>wall around Giannis and now like this, the wall doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>work anymore. It does not work. A brief pit stop

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<v Speaker 2>also in Phoenix, as facilitators of this deal, they it

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<v Speaker 2>was just never gonna work with DeAndre Aid and they

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<v Speaker 2>hated him. I don't know why, but they did. They

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<v Speaker 2>got Vogel. Vogel was saying all the right things. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Vogo could have turned eight and into a nice center,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just they just were like, Yeah, let's stop

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<v Speaker 2>trying to make DeAndre Eighten happen. It's not happening. I

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<v Speaker 2>love him, I love Eighton. I think he's awesome. I've

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<v Speaker 2>always loved Dayton since he was I loved Dayton since

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<v Speaker 2>he was fifteen years old when I saw him at

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<v Speaker 2>the Adda's Nations. That's how long. So this is a

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<v Speaker 2>fresh for him. He finally gets the respect he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>He's already changed his two K jersey and putting it

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<v Speaker 2>online to Portland. Hell yeah, the Suns pick up badly

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<v Speaker 2>needed depth. They get in this yere little. They get

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<v Speaker 2>Keon Johnson and they get NRK's gonna know his role.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna shut his mouth and he's gonna play with KD.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna love it too. Everyone's everyone in Phoenix has

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<v Speaker 2>got to be pretty much over the mood. Finally, we

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<v Speaker 2>end in Miami, where fans are starting to cannibalize on

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<v Speaker 2>one another. It's bad out there on the streets. They're

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<v Speaker 2>like ready to turn on pat Riley. They're saying he's

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<v Speaker 2>a slappy when they were saying he was the smartest

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<v Speaker 2>facilitator league exec. Ever, how much changes in an hour

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<v Speaker 2>as wild It's whoa. The entire fan base was convinced

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<v Speaker 2>they were getting damned. They would have staked their beating

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<v Speaker 2>heart on it. And now rug is out from under

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<v Speaker 2>him and they're looking around like Will Smith in an

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<v Speaker 2>empty room. How is the heat in their fan base

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<v Speaker 2>taking the news? Let's look into it. Uh, what's the emotions?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we really care what their emotions are? Do we

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<v Speaker 2>really care about them? No, but we'll go into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one is anger. They're just shocked and angry. A

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of angry posts across social mediing like how

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<v Speaker 2>did this happen? They've whipped on one star after another

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<v Speaker 2>to add to Jimmy and bam Nobile even though that

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<v Speaker 2>what Phoenix got him for peanuts. There were some pat

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<v Speaker 2>Riley as eighty and these losses Fastball he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>retire posts. Someone tweeted that it was Joe Cronin's fault,

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<v Speaker 2>it was Danny Ainge's fault, it was Clutch's fault. It

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<v Speaker 2>was everybody's fault except for pat Riley's. If the whole

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<v Speaker 2>league is against them, maybe we should replace him with

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<v Speaker 2>someone that can actually get along with people. Whoa WHOA

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<v Speaker 2>hold on. Now, settle down, Heat fans, Remember you told

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<v Speaker 2>me everything was fine and you were just in the

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<v Speaker 2>finals last year, so seems like Everything's. Number two emotion

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<v Speaker 2>is rage rage at the Blazers, which I gotta say

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<v Speaker 2>is my favorite emotion of them all. Much more common

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<v Speaker 2>were Heat fans believing that the Blazers did this out

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<v Speaker 2>of straight pettiness, which I don't know whether that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>but if it is, that's awesome. That's awesome. They're big

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<v Speaker 2>mad folks, big mad, and they're blaming Joe Cronin. This

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<v Speaker 2>fan base is delusional. They really, they really are. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Joe Cronin would take a worse deal just

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<v Speaker 2>screw over Miami is ridiculous. Like I said, if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a jump ball, it's fuck you. Number three is resignation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're starting to realize that they've got nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They've lost multiple role players, guys that played, two guys

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<v Speaker 2>that played in the starting lineup for the entire playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys are gone. The heat heatles, heat over

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<v Speaker 2>heat a verse. I guess we'll call it felt, a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of uh, just resignation over the news. They

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<v Speaker 2>kept be being told that they can't go all in

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<v Speaker 2>on a superstar because the next star down the road

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<v Speaker 2>is the one. That's what the genius about Joe Cronin

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<v Speaker 2>really is though, because the next Domino was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, and now they've taken them both away and

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<v Speaker 2>one fell swoop and they've actually taken three away because

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<v Speaker 2>let's be real, the next Domino guard that they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>was Drew Holliday, and guess what, you're not getting him either.

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<v Speaker 2>So Option one gone, Option two gone, Option three gone

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you. That means there's only one possibility for them

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<v Speaker 2>on the table and the Jimmy bam Era, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Embiid. And folks, if that's your backup plan, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to tell you. The seventy six ers are in

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<v Speaker 2>the market for Drew Holliday, and boy, oh boy, do

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<v Speaker 2>I see Joe Cronin making that move, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>about checkmate check mate. I think there are two things

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<v Speaker 2>Heat fans can take away from today. One, this team

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<v Speaker 2>signed R. J. Hampton, which is a personal favorite player

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<v Speaker 2>of mine, considering that I watched Davion Mitchell cook him

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<v Speaker 2>for an entire Summer League game, telling us about all

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<v Speaker 2>of the ways he was just trash. You got that

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<v Speaker 2>going for you, which is nice. And the team tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>out that Josh Richardson will wear the number zero for

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<v Speaker 2>the heat. Wow. If that's not putting, oh god, if

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<v Speaker 2>that's not throwing in the towel, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>is silver linings, heat fans, silver linings. My personal feeling

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<v Speaker 2>on a more we'll call it Sincere and Oe is

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm incredibly happy that this is the duo we

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<v Speaker 2>got because these are two of the most loyal guys

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA, and they both were kind of pushed

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<v Speaker 2>to the brink and now because they said something, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to win, they got put together Dame and Yannis.

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<v Speaker 2>And the truth is, Dame, no matter how much he

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<v Speaker 2>said he wanted to be in Miami, said this along

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<v Speaker 2>time ago about Janice, and I think it still rings

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<v Speaker 2>true today.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to pick a player that would help

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<v Speaker 1>you win a championship, who would you pick? I would

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<v Speaker 1>pick I hope he would get to play with Giannis

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, those two would be a very very

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<v Speaker 1>nice time, Bob. I mean, I would say, just the dominance.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, somebody that's gonna get to the rim. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a good playmaker, good defender, disruptive, and his the way

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<v Speaker 1>he plays compliments the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I play, Yes, sir, and so I like that for

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<v Speaker 2>Dame a lot. I think he deserves. Maybe you guys

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<v Speaker 2>thought I really meant that he did not deserve to

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<v Speaker 2>have basketball happiness, But I really think this is good

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<v Speaker 2>for both of them. They're two of the most likable

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<v Speaker 2>guys in the league, and I wish them all the best.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot easier. Also, another thought that I had

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<v Speaker 2>about this is just it was so much easier for

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee to do this for j honest than it was

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<v Speaker 2>for Portland to do this for Dame, because big guys

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<v Speaker 2>like Jannis really really hard to find, hence the reason

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<v Speaker 2>he's a two time MVP Defensive Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 2>and Greek freak. Than it is to do that when

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a guard, which are a lot easier to replace.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Dame obviously I consider him a top

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<v Speaker 2>three guard in the league, but star players ask out

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more when they're guards. That's just the truth. Embeid.

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<v Speaker 2>As much as he's been quote unquote unhappy, he's been rocking,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not getting a Yo kic. You're not getting ay honest,

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<v Speaker 2>because teams don't want to give up on those dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>I am also happy that Miami did not get what

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted. I think I've said that multiple times on

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<v Speaker 2>this podcast, but it's worth saying again. I am happy

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<v Speaker 2>that they are left holding their dicks. Their fans were insufferable,

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<v Speaker 2>and guess what, Like, I'm more upset that there were

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<v Speaker 2>legit Miami quote unquote journalists that were trying to manipulate

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<v Speaker 2>the information to make it seem like there was nothing

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<v Speaker 2>that Portland could do. I do hope that if Dame

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<v Speaker 2>gets a ring in my Milwaukee, that that he gets multiple.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that they stay together forever. I would not

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<v Speaker 2>mind if they were title contenders and they were running

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<v Speaker 2>through the East. For a minute, I thought that Cronan

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<v Speaker 2>has a new GM, did a fantastic job. He played

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<v Speaker 2>his cards to his vest. There was no leaks. There

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<v Speaker 2>were plenty of people who were saying that Joe Conan

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<v Speaker 2>had dick, and you know what he knew He didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't say a word. He kept things closed,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what good gms do. It's a great day

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<v Speaker 2>also for the NBA. Why if Dame had gone to Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>every star player would be like yeah, and every agent

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<v Speaker 2>would say, I can get my client wherever I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go and wherever they want to go, whenever I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go. And that's just what you cannot have

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Adam Silver. So a good day for the logo,

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<v Speaker 2>great day for the logo. I am happy for Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't think the Blazers did right by Dame,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not Joe Cronin's fault, so I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 2>they have found an end to this chapter. I am

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<v Speaker 2>happy for watching Dame on the East Coast because ten

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<v Speaker 2>pm from the East Coast is a rough fucking beat

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<v Speaker 2>forty one times. For Dame to play at ten thirty

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<v Speaker 2>is disgusting. And it's a great day for the league,

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<v Speaker 2>good day for Blazer fans, good day for Dame, and

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<v Speaker 2>good day for fans of the entire league. And if

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a good day for you, you're a Heat fan.