1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Hey, jail high light. Oh we we do our dig today. 2 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: We get we get real artists to get the gallery. 3 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: You understand a little little of the chesse of galleries, 4 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the gallow ships trap. Hold on, hey, heybody, put that 5 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: cheese down, down and get it over. They're drinking wine 6 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: to cheeved hey man, first and foremost, I got my 7 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: dog Clayton English and hell Represa wind those deersh You 8 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, welcome back, Bro. Ain't good 9 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: to be back. You're doing big things in life. I 10 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: can't even talk about I know it, but I know 11 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: I can say it to you. You can say to 12 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: me you do Nick. This text messages, bro, we got 13 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: some very dope guests in head with us today on 14 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: the black excellent spot light. Bro, please introduce yourselves to 15 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the eighty five percenters so they can make sure they 16 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: got it right, because this dude named craziest Hell, my 17 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: name's Onna J. Henderson. See when he said that, I was, 18 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: like I said, bringing his launch juice. Oh Niger, that's dope, Bro. Appreciative. 19 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm on mar Henderson. Yeah, and we are. We're two 20 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: thirds of the owners of Zuki Art Gallery. Here in 21 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: that line, I love it. I'm Callos. I'm one third 22 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: of the ship that be on this show. Y'all fans, 23 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: y'all watching, so you already know, man, this is this 24 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: is what we use that platform to highlight dope things 25 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: that's going on in the community amongst us. And so man, 26 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: tell us more about the art business and how y'all 27 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: got started and all of that, the good background story, 28 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so I'll start. We uh, we got 29 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: started when we were in college. We are. We grew 30 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: up here in that line. See, I was gonna let 31 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: you start, but you skipped. You skip so much. Told 32 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: him that's your brother or not. Ah, Yeah, this is 33 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: my brother brother. I'm the oldest. Yeah, so I'm the 34 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: little brother because my little brother brotherbody's always liked that 35 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: your parents getting we just had to make your visit 36 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: and you have to make it with me from the 37 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: small person in my family because I'm the only one 38 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: that was once on public assistance. My mom had a 39 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: job with the rest of you, my baby brother like 40 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: six fives shack of the movie A little really healthy 41 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: and ship. So so we started. We grew up here 42 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, grew up indicator right off calling row. Yeah, 43 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: so we went to school. We went to Tuskegee and uh, yeah, 44 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: HBCU man. So when we got to school, we both 45 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: got scholarships to go to college. And when we got 46 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: scholarships engineering, we both majored and I major the chemical engineer. 47 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: He major the mechanical engineer. You see how he skips 48 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: the whole high school. How y'all were small than Ship. 49 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: We went to McNew High School and uh, when we 50 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: went to college, my dad who's also an engineer, he's 51 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: an electrical engineer, and who also went to Tuskegee, so 52 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: did my mom's family legacy, and so nothing right there 53 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: because that breakdown so many stereotypes of what they're not 54 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: saying about Ship, like this, your whole family then went 55 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: to college. Yeah, they graduated. My kids gonna be like 56 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: my dad went here. My dad said he went to fail. 57 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: This is school you. I saw your transfer. So so 58 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: when he when when we went to cards we had 59 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: those scholarships, my dad, who was an artist, decided he 60 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: was gonna quit his full time job and become an artist. 61 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: He shut out. He jumped in, like y'all good, that's 62 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: what brown want to pay some shup with mother? Yo, 63 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: bro ya that's pretty much that I have. So yeah, 64 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: so we you know what we did was he started 65 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: a company then to just kind of sell his work, 66 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and when we graduated, we took over the company to 67 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: sell his work. And now over time we started working 68 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: with other artists. And I'll let you take it from there. 69 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: Hold on, let me ask you all this as a 70 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: group though, like Holling wasn't was it like to go 71 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to have the HBCU experienced? Man, you can't, man, I 72 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: don't think you can even put a dollar amount on it. 73 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I mean to be at the HBCU, to have the 74 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: support that you have when you at HBCU, to have 75 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: the friendship just all the people you meet while you're there. 76 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: Like the people that I was roommates with when I started, 77 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: I talked to them every day now, you know what 78 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you don't you don't you don't meet 79 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: people like that along the way, so that the support 80 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: and they one thing they do at the HBCU, Man, 81 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: it ain't easy. So they get you ready for the world. Yeah. Yeah. 82 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: When I first got there, I thought I was you know, 83 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: you think he's smart, and they're like, all right, everybody, 84 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: no calculators for the first two years, you know, and 85 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna show you how much math you 86 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: don't know, you know, stuff like that. But the other 87 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: thing too, is like seeing you still got everything you 88 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: see everywhere else they just have to be in college, 89 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: so you still a guy. You know, folks selling dope, 90 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: you know on campus, you got you got all this 91 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: other stuff happening. But it's just showing you just how 92 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: wide of a range of black folks we exist in 93 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: all these spaces. But we all can still be smart. 94 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: We all can still go to school, but you don't 95 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: have to be a certain way where this like ex 96 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: gang members, everything was in there at school, you know 97 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's it's like a black world, and 98 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: I think being around the black world and you're going 99 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: to get all these negative stereotypes that you've heard your 100 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: entire life about you and how you're not gonna survive pass. 101 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: I think we're growing up a pass with twenty then 102 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: it became twenty five, we're in danger species all that 103 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and you start seeing all this and 104 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the same people who came who may came in that way, 105 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: the executive companies. Now you know what I mean, because 106 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: HBC's are spending time with you too, and that make 107 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: sure you get right. So by the time you leave 108 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: it at the end of that four years, which you 109 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: used to be is not what you're Not what you 110 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: are at the end, man, let me see that dope 111 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: as hood you got on stole in the culture. So 112 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: one of the one of the things we talk about 113 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: in the gallery, um we're just in the art business 114 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: in general, is that we all need to be and 115 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: have a responsibility to be custodians of our culture. So 116 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: when we talk about it from an art standpoint, we 117 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: say that the art that you purchased today, we have 118 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: a responsibility to collect our culture. So we talk about 119 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: collecting art and it's our responsibility to collect that, to 120 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: pass it down, to create value in it. It's our 121 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: responsibility to do that and we and the art is 122 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: going to outlive all of us. So what's gonna happen 123 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: is it's gonna move from generation to generation. It creates 124 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: generational wealth along the way. It has an intrinsic value 125 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: because it's gonna mean something to you. Okay, okay, I 126 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: have a question as an artist, what did you get 127 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: your point of view? I mean, as an artist. We 128 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: all see the world in different shapes and forms. What 129 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: helped shape your point of view as an autist? The 130 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: thing is with uh, you know, with being in this 131 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: in this whole space. We don't want to we we 132 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: want to take that stigma out of art that you 133 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: have to think that you've got to think about it like. 134 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: We want us to be like we want us to 135 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: be just comfortable with it and make it a part 136 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: of our daily life, you know. So it is the 137 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: way we kind of cultivate, that is, we say we 138 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: all want to be these custodians of culture because while 139 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: we're here on the planet, we have a responsibility on 140 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: our culture. If we don't, we don't pay somebody else 141 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: to go and see it. Now, most of the stuff 142 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: you think about when it comes down to people collecting work. 143 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: Right now, Afrimerican work is not being collected by us. 144 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: It's collected by everybody else. So what happens then, is 145 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: that what typic happens in our community in general, we 146 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: create something, another community goes out, monetizes it and then 147 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: sell us it back to us. Once they validated, they'll 148 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: let they'll tell us it's good when we created to 149 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: begin with they're selling back to us. We buy it 150 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: from them, the same thing that's happened in art. Good 151 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and then we and then we go back. 152 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: Oh it is I saw that a while because I 153 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: didn't know what was good. Let me ask you about that. 154 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: You have background engineering, Like, what was that experience like 155 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 1: being a black engineer? You know it was you know 156 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: in in uh in school, it's very it was very 157 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: different than when we graduated. So we got out of 158 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: school and went to work in corporate and you now 159 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: you're the only black person. So you go from being 160 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: where it's like all black people and now you're the 161 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: only one. You kind of you're trying to represent for 162 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: that and um, but being an engineer in the beginning 163 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: and engineer, like both of our careers while we were 164 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: working corporate kind of moved away from engineering. You get 165 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: into more business stuff and stuff later on, But doing that, 166 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: it was always trying. You still have to go out 167 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and you gotta prove yourself because you went to an 168 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: h B c U. You know, people looking at like, 169 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: can't you really do what you know? Can't you do 170 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: what I did? I went to my t or, I 171 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: went to Georgia Tech and then people start finding out 172 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: you're just as good as they are, even though you 173 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: went to this school that they didn't, they've never heard of. 174 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: So it was it was one of those experiences where 175 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: you were prepared, like like being an engineer from Tuskee, 176 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: we were prepared for all this stuff. We were prepared 177 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: for business. We're prepared for that corporate world and so 178 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: so it made it, it made it easy to get 179 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: through it, but you still had those hurdles of trying 180 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: to prove yourself to people along the way in that space. 181 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: So what y'all say Artists considered the family business at 182 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah, definitely that's what you 183 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: have kids. Yeah, I got I have three, the artists too, yeah, 184 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: the two yeah that yeah. So tell me more about 185 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: the gathering of the actual So in LA So we 186 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: were partners. So our business partner Troy Taylor, Uh we 187 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: met him along the way doing exhibitions and things like that. 188 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: We met Troy and then we did an exhibition with Troy. 189 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: Troy already had the gallery and after the show's successful 190 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: show and uh we you know, we specifically work with 191 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: Afrimerican Artist Artists of Africa ASBORO and so after the show, 192 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking back with Troy, and Troy's also engineer, 193 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: and he was like, you know what in life is 194 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: important to do well, but it's more important to do good. 195 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: I want to do good with y'all. And we formed 196 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: a company called H and T Art Partners. So we 197 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: took our our business at the time was su Premier Art. 198 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: This business Zuki Gallery created H and T Art Partners, 199 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: and then we all became business partners inside the gallery 200 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: and now we're the large Afrimanica art gallery in the southeast. 201 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this there, when you say it 202 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: was a successful show, what does that mean for the 203 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: people who don't know what success now I'm I'm talking 204 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: about money, like sales, like we do. We sold work. 205 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: So because we first started all this, like when we're 206 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: going out, you know, when we first started, we're using 207 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: our corporate dollars to rent out gallery spaces. We say, look, 208 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: give us three days, we'll be up in Buckhead. We'd 209 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: be up Miami Circle, those areas over there. We take 210 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: a gallery, we take that all your stuff. How much 211 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: of it costs us to have your galley for three days? 212 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: We're going there first day and hang a show and 213 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: then we would invite all our friends. At the time, 214 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: we were not twenties, right, so like years old, nobody 215 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: was talking to us stuff. We all have money, we know, 216 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: we all right about our first houses all that kind 217 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: of stuff, and nobody was talking to us about this stuff. 218 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: You go into a gallery, nobody even speak to you. 219 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: So it's like, well, we know who I'm market is. 220 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: It's us and it can't nobody talk to us like us. 221 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: So we started selling work and that one week artwork, artwork, artwork, 222 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: that's right. But you know, you can use drugs at 223 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: art as long as long as it's not a cocaine based. 224 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: Ain't we start some black man ship. What's some of 225 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: the coldest art you have seen that the world should have, 226 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: that you think the world should have seen? Is it 227 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: like one piece that you'd be like, I can't believe 228 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: there was only one of them? But you know, because 229 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: everything is one of the kind that's happens all the time, 230 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, in the gallery and you always find something 231 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: that you love. We got I mean a lot of 232 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: artists in there now. My my biggest things. We try 233 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: to pull in work that I think at this point, 234 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: other people are gonna like and buy. So like, the 235 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: average price point in the gallery ranges anywhere from about 236 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: up to about forty right now, that's currently on the walls, 237 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: and so it's a range of it. So we want 238 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: to do it's just normalized the price of it in general, 239 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: the value of it in general. So we have clients 240 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: come in and saying, like, you know, when if you 241 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: first look at something you say that expensive, you're basically 242 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the fact that you may not just be familiar with it. 243 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: So it's almost like if you go and look, if 244 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: you go to the store to mar you go to Walmart, 245 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: you can buy a person or you can go to 246 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Loui of the time, and by person, they both purses, 247 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: but it costs way different. Right, So what we do 248 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: is we'll come in and just by normalizing, I mean, 249 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: somebody comes in and says that pain is expensive, and 250 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I might say, you got on the fourth on the 251 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: handbag is just painting really expensive. It's cheaper than the handbags, 252 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: but how to live that handbag? You many had a 253 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: handbag next year. And so the idea behind is that 254 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: it's not saying don't do what you already do. We're 255 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: just saying consider this also, and we gotta start caring 256 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: more about our car. We're like, like the fact that 257 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: we got to be told to care about our own stuff. 258 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: That's part of the problem, right, So like, how do 259 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: we fix that part of How would an artist submit 260 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: something to you? You know what I mean? What's that? 261 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: What's that process? So artists the way of the arts? Yeah, 262 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: So on our website you can go and submit Zukai 263 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: gallery dot com. You can there's an artist submission form 264 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: on there and you can go and mitch your work. 265 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: We asked for two or three pieces from you a bio, 266 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: and then we'll we review those over time and then 267 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: figure out kind of who we want to work with. 268 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: We also look for artists all the time, so we'll 269 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: be on Instagram or whatever looking for artists that we 270 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: can bring in. And so, I don't know, what you 271 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: call art is very long with the rage it comes 272 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to arts, and the thing is we look for a 273 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: lot of um. We look for a few things. One, 274 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: we look at the artists and what materials they're using. 275 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: We want to make sure that they're using stuff that's 276 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: archival because we're talking about this stuff lasting forever. So 277 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: if you got a house paint on a piece of plywood. 278 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: That might not that might not necessarily live forever. It 279 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: might be adult piece. Yeah, but it might not necessarily 280 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: say we don't ship. I might just stand up in 281 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: the front. I'm like this likes up like I'm not 282 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: going don't I don't understand. Yeah, I got about ain't 283 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: mad at three and under chack. I like that counterpart 284 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: a little ship. We ain't got no kickers. We don't 285 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: have no MUCKs about a Tumler four about six. Yeah, 286 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: you gonna wata have that problems like older people like 287 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: ts and ship coming in there. Ma'am you can't take pictures. 288 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, babe. I didn't mean we want everybody to 289 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: take it. We want you to post it on Instagram everybody. 290 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: I've been. I've been the art galleries where he was 291 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: supposed to take pictures. Yeah, and my my Instagram pictures 292 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: is me in front of best yard that I was 293 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: supposed to take. But you know wrong with that. Well, 294 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: the thing is when we talk about the experience we're 295 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: trying to create in the gallery, what we're trying to 296 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: do is create something that's different from those art galleries 297 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: like you're talking about. We get stuff. Yeah, and you 298 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: know what I hear is all hype to get the 299 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: price up. They pushing certain ship because they won't. It's 300 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: not it's not it's not the people. It was crazy though. 301 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: Anybody can push the price up. That's why I got more, 302 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: get more black people involved in it because right now 303 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: they're even they're even telling us now who's the popular 304 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: black artist. Because what they do is they're going to 305 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: telling me, telling me, bro, we've got somewhere call those millership. 306 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh this ship is exhilarating, and you know what, that's 307 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: all that really take for a lot of them, but 308 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: they do, they're get a writer right now. We got 309 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: to be in control. And I saw this on Netflix 310 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: about them selling the fake art and they sold eighty 311 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: million worth of fake art. They had to dude that 312 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: could do all these art styles and these people were 313 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: just buying it like it's on tour, it's going to places, 314 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, man, this ship he was making steaks. Ye, yeah, 315 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: that happens. That can happen. I mean, so it is. 316 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: That's one of the things that's in the art world 317 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: is just not regulated. But have you seen some of 318 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 1: that Michael Jackson art. So what you mean he did. No, 319 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: I I thought she was deep. Bro. Michael Jackson artist Man, Michael, 320 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: you've seen something Swiss be Ship Ship he did, I've seen. 321 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: I hadn't seen any specific pieces that he did. I 322 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: know he's a big collector, though. That unfollowed this nig 323 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: and he's so good. I had to unfollow this dude. 324 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: His life is too great. Man. Yeah, I follow him 325 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: because I don't need to see so. We guys are 326 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: prominent collectors in the culture. Yeah, like Swiss Beach j 327 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: Z of course tell you he got forty million in 328 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: the kitchen. Yeah, coach k Blue to lean on it 329 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: because she owned it. Blue just want to grant me 330 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: I'd got a woman. Get your ass off that. And 331 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: it don't even be the infant to be the black 332 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: Jesus sitting on the councilors plessic go in that room. 333 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: You're supposed to go here. Give me some art game, 334 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: right quick? What's some of your favorite pieces, like historical 335 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: art pieces. Give me some of that game. I know 336 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: you gotta cause you went to school. Lot of scholarship, 337 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, and the terms of like what I like. 338 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: I like a lot of the artists that we carry 339 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: are the ones that I'm really I'm collecting right now. 340 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: So it's about it changes over time. You know, you 341 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: collect different stuff at different periods in your life. Um. 342 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: But if I if I look historically, um, like Charles 343 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: White is an artist, that's one of my favorite artists. Um, 344 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: and uh, give us something, That's what I'm saying, give 345 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: us some's black people to look up. Just before the 346 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: only ones I really know, um, rad Cliffe Bailey Okay, yeah, 347 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Hebrew Brandley Okay, Uh, Brandon English, that's my brother. You 348 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: know we're adding value. We don't add value. So but okay, 349 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: now that's all I know. Now, really I can think 350 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: on the top of you got but even here that 351 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: now you've got Charlie Palmer, you got Jerry Land out 352 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: of Texas. You've got Alfred Conte. Uh that's a dope 353 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: as name. Yeah, like the plug stolen money from there's consequences, 354 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: Charlotte Riley, Aaron Henderson. Yeah. I was like, just yeah, 355 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: that's your daddy. Yeah, don't lead a family out. There's something, 356 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: there's something to work from historical stand put. My father 357 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: took through the entire series based on the lyrics and 358 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: Negro spirituals because he was asking the question of who 359 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: made these songs? And if you think about it, most 360 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: people made the songs where I never got the greeted right, 361 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: but a lot of was under thirty years old, and 362 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: they created a whole base of all American music. And 363 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: we never even talked about those people. So he did 364 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: about seventy paintings. They're all about five about five ft 365 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: by six ft, huge paintings. And what he did was 366 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: he created a book about the work and so uh, 367 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: those paints are huge, and each piece talks about the 368 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: song and and just knew it behind it all, you 369 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: may never left tim al ray Is and you still 370 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: that it was funny. He's anybody from from the neighbor. 371 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: So that's my homeboy Chris who posted that that was 372 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: a pitch in the backyard. What's the what's the thing 373 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: called the complete of all his work? The promanaze or 374 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: the provenance? You know one bridge, I want to make 375 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: sure get it right. I'm gonna go in there, but 376 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: I want to see the provnaze Clinton English. You know 377 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: what the is. The provenance is like the birth certificate 378 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: of the painting. So every time you buy a piece 379 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: and original work of art, you want to make sure 380 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: you get the the provenaze because what that does is 381 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: that proves that you that you got it. It proves 382 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,959 Speaker 1: that you what you paid for it. It shows the materials, 383 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: the artists, all of that. So that's where the value is. 384 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: It's in that piece of because you had that paper 385 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: Like that's like if you had a Picasso and you 386 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: had a paperwork on it, the stake can be like, 387 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that's not real. It could be works. But yeah, that's 388 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: what they did with my Picasso. Check that out. So 389 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: we published that book last year one because that story 390 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: just needs to be told, you know, we need to 391 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: tell the what it on our website Zuka Gallery dot com, 392 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: Gallery dot com, zu c ot Gallery dot com and uh, 393 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: but the story itself, just of of those slave poets 394 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: has to be told. It's like, and so what we 395 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: did in the book is he created what you'll see 396 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: is you'll see the song on one page and you 397 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: see the piece on the next page. So the songs 398 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: are songs we all know, like Wade in the Water, 399 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: and what he's doing is he's talking about the true 400 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: meaning in those songs and what they're the messages that were, 401 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, and why they sing on when they saying yeah, 402 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: because they was like wade in the water, and they 403 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: was like, nigger, ain't wade my cousin, And they were 404 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: asking where he want wed in the water? Children? God 405 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: donna trouble the wall. But y'all know the song. Yeah, 406 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: And you think about it, they could read or write. 407 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: So the songs abouved all this time, and we're the descendants. 408 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: What if that? What if all the slaves knew rather 409 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: read it as soon as they got out work. Look, 410 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: you got to do better. Read it. You know, a 411 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: lot of the white people couldn't read. Are you reading? 412 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: What does this say? Oh? I thought it said no caffeine, 413 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: get out of there, point one. If he was the 414 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: house slave. And then you master getting ready to go 415 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: to bed, and he know you know how to read, 416 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: but he said, come here reading the rack it up. 417 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how to figure it out. Read aloud, 418 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: Read aloud ready when you are. But that's don't we 419 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: don't get. We don't get talked about. And really that's 420 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: the foundation for music. American music is all Black music 421 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: came from that wrap. Everything else came from But think 422 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: about all the artists in the tell different story. He's 423 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: got another guy Horsome Hotel, who does more modern stuff, 424 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: like you know what it talks about now. But my 425 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: whole thing is that it all connects back and is 426 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: telling our story. But you're gonna lie. These white gallery 427 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: will be somebody in there telling our story. That's what 428 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: it makes me so mad about being black. We don't 429 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: never get to make up none of our history. It's 430 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: always told to us. White people will make up some 431 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: history and didn't make a whole show about it, and 432 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: we believe. We're watching and believe everything they say. Started 433 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: making up ship, like we can separated from the real ship. 434 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: But man, we can make our ship a little better too. Man. 435 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: White people history look like Star Wars, and I remember 436 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: when it first started, Neo showed up and we followed 437 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: our way to the future. They didn't do that with 438 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: George watching it. He never told a lie, never told 439 00:27:52,400 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: budding teeth, taking out of Negro mouths. He never was 440 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: He didn't tell his last directly though he had people 441 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: to laugh for him. So that was a man with 442 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: a wig on nick that anybody at home too. I 443 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: wish I could just go back in time just to 444 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: hear nigger disagree with that. The light is motherfucker got 445 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: damn me get paid. You don't want to go the 446 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: same story. That's why they only gonna put him on 447 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: the quarter because we do only tell a little bit 448 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: of the truth. Whatever, ween ship, But were artistic though, Bro, 449 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: you got some artistic ship, you can play some futuristic 450 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: art like like just imagine we had the art gallery 451 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: and we've been there for about an hour, the wine 452 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: kicking in. Your girl, look, slip keeps slipping down, about 453 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: to pop out, but little tips up the wine. She 454 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: keep grabbing this part. I don't know why. They'll never 455 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: were brought to the art gallery. Then they seemed like 456 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: your girl lose weight when she started drinking wine to 457 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: clothes start fitting. Funny, nipple keeps slipping that like, look, 458 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: why are you slipping? Why are your slippy shrinking? They're 459 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: dressing with that damn big when we left the hell 460 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: you're walking on it. Okay, that's stupid. This has nothing 461 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: to do with art, But I like it. It's this movie. 462 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna play it together. Bro, what type of ship 463 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: would like? What occasion would this would they be playing 464 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: in together? This is all about uplifting black people, don't 465 00:29:52,720 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: you about? And then he was that he was just playing. 466 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: Is like the prince was like, leave that for jail in. Hey, 467 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: I want to leave a little gift. So what do 468 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: you think about the beat? Do you like it? Yeah, 469 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: it's school slave. You can have it. If you look 470 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: to your lap, we'll see it. Wrap black, Mike, you 471 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: know I only wanted one. It's for sale, but it's 472 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: not for sale. Were started back from colonizing. Keep walking, 473 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: keep walking, keep walking, So don't test that at your sisters. 474 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Wrack yellow from the largest our gallery in the southeast, 475 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: Keep walking, walking, You have a puncture at who we 476 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: go from an artist from the East Side. I'm the kitchen. 477 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: So one of one piece, we call it the view 478 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: who well, open up the bed? Is that fifteen hundred 479 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: dollars dollar piece, So we want to get rid of it, 480 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: make room in the collection. Keep walking, keep walking, keep whooping. 481 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop and get some more white. Feel free 482 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: to mingle the bouts as we commence the walking up 483 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: the gat. Yeah, I don't need a nigger to do. Yeah, 484 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: I would high. I will take the head off and 485 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: be baldhead. Come on, carry on, We're gonna walk around 486 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: and say we have pieces. Say some of my real 487 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: patners from the Swats. It's an artistic piece. Three little 488 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: girls walking to the soul. Kenny Lady shouting the bands 489 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: on Kenny Lady shot in five thousand and five thousands, 490 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: like knees keep walking. That's a good name. Yes, yes, 491 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: that Cadillacs said keep walking, hated on the West Side. 492 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: This is titled My Partner Them. And this is the 493 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: red Cadillac nineteen seventy seven owned by Rick James. Yes, 494 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: that is gold interior. That is weird good, Gonna open 495 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: up the bibs like seventy five thousand dollars this James 496 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: Cadillac going wants it's in Atlanta. Aren't need to be 497 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: captured though, local ship. It's always more I think been 498 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: free shot. They smoke in the gallery. Yes, please Hull, 499 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: please run up, keep walking, shout folk, You're more than welcome. 500 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: Shouty folk, Come on, shoty folk. Ladies and gentlemen were 501 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: going to go have some refreshments. Quick comedy set for 502 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: my man. You know a man you love him? Shorty shot. No, 503 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: that's not that's I'm through being artistic, bro. I know 504 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry when y'all want to do something, Bro, we 505 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: need a nice space where we can hain't somebody fan 506 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: art and do our own little gallery. Broa. We need 507 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: to collab with y'all. Gonna just keep in mind we 508 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: do shop, so we might not bear to get the 509 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: whole gathering. Can get the wall and just got a 510 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of ship. I go up to two and he 511 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: knows what the ship the receipt call to. So sitting 512 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: there described I'm like, leive they're gonna come back, I'm like, 513 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: what a problem. You didn't get the problem. But the 514 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: problem is that give me a goddamn bill of sale, 515 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: but it paints it up. So you mean to tell 516 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: me that j J didn't paint this. This ain't all thing? 517 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: Good time? Okay, all right, all right man, Well look 518 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: let them know what they can find you all online 519 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: and all of those good things. So we're okay to 520 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: the Castleberry. Uh. Actually apart from here uh and online 521 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: the website Zukai Gallery dot com. We look yeah, yeah, 522 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: zukau celt Gallery dot com. You can also see something 523 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,280 Speaker 1: the work that we have in some of the events 524 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: that we do. This is real table book is that 525 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 1: you can learn a lot of times coffee table books 526 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: beyond some bullshit. They just show you windows, doors and 527 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: something dumb ship. But this ship, I like this, right, 528 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting this. I like like when I'm at my 529 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: coffee table, I actually drink coffee on it. It isn't 530 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: no need to have a coffee table that you're not 531 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: drinking coffee. You ain't never putting if you ain't got 532 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: no little coffee bregs. I mean, if you have a 533 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: living room table, that's fine. But if you go out 534 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: and you look at your mother provolone and that's been 535 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: stay coffee table. If the Providence say coffer table, make 536 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: sure you're drinking coffee on how much would I get 537 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: for a rare four eyes sticker that I peeled off 538 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: the back of the side. Because that's it, That's what 539 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It lasts from you. Yeah, man, We'll look. 540 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all coming through and updating us on what's 541 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: going on in the art world. And one day I'm 542 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna get me something I want to red Michael Angelo. 543 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: You gonna get that from us, though you ain't gonna 544 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: get that from you might be talked to the Pope. 545 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: I remember, want to ask somebody in the art business. 546 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: Though it's like, how valuable it's just like a titty 547 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 1: picture depend on who painted and who bought it. Okay, 548 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: I get that's the research I want to. I want 549 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: to the most expensive picture with somebody t Do you 550 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: want what if it's the original Andrea three thousand a 551 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: t l is painting with the titties out in the 552 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: in the green. Yeah, but it's the actual painting and 553 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: it's done by him. You know it. Because it's done 554 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: by him, it will be worth something, Like you think, 555 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: so does he too realistic? There's no value in that 556 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: keep walking because it was done. But like you said, 557 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: like he was saying, like if it's just a who 558 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: the art, whoever painted it actually creates the value in 559 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: whoever painted and who collected it. So if it's said, 560 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: if it's a paint in that's sitting in entertainer's collection, 561 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: it'll be worth more than if it's just sitting in 562 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: somebody else's collector. Could be they can't increase the value. 563 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Then when you take it, when you have it as 564 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: a collector and you take it to an auction, it 565 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: creates value. James, I've been holding out on you. I 566 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: own some art. It's a picture of me and Rick James. 567 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: He got his hand on my shoulder, like you're telling 568 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: me and keep doing your thing. It's value with me. 569 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: Favorite piece of art I ever had, besides that piece 570 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: right there, that ship go that could that could go 571 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: in the other section. Little good to say, but it's 572 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: that's just what we If they don't meet the reserve, 573 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 1: Martin Gay, that's not for sale. You ain't selling the game. 574 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,800 Speaker 1: Bro Rich'll sell that. I said that we could. We 575 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: would probably work something out. I know the artists been 576 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: wanting to get into a bigger form. My partner did that. 577 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 1: Artists in the barber and and you do album covers. 578 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: Think your engineers. I don't know. He might be trying 579 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: to relate everybody. He do software and stuff of that nature. 580 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people. But now that we 581 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: got the art plug so you like that one? You 582 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: see that j O he back in. Yeah, but now 583 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: we plugged in and the art. We got the T shirts. 584 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: This is my one. Though they could be all purchase. 585 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Don't line too because we said, you know people, a 586 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: lot of people. That's how I like that material. Yeah 587 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: for this one, y'all got a hit right here because 588 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: throw in a culture is in our custom Come on, man, 589 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 1: we gotta keep yeah, check the problem. I got a question. 590 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: How the artists give the galleries make money off commissions 591 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: from selling the art. So we that's when the artists 592 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: comes in. We signed a contract with the artists and um, 593 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: we're investing them. We're invest in the We all marketing. 594 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: We have pay that gy storage figure, shipping all that 595 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: and it calls we start selling expressive things. That calls 596 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: money to sell. So you know you're taking people out 597 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 1: to dinner whatever you gotta do to sell, or traveling 598 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: around trying to get stuff moved. All that stuff cost. 599 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: I love how y'all came on here and let everybody 600 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: know that everybody was welcome at the art gallery and 601 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: in the art world. Man. So that's big for the chain. 602 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: We appreciate you all coming through man, showing that your man. 603 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm going We're going to the I don't have any 604 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: get your win together together, eighty paps out the Cooties podcast. Man, 605 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: appreciate you'll appreciate you. Thank you all, Man appreciated, Thank 606 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: you all.