1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. All right, second hour of Play and 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Buck kicks off right now. We're joined by Senator Marco. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Rubio of Florida. His newest book is out, Decades of Decadence? 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: How are Spoiled Elites? Blue America's inheritance of liberty, Security, 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: and Prosperity. Senator Rubio, thanks for calling in, sir. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me talk about Yes. 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Sir, so talk to us first, if you would, about 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: how do you see things on that. We've been talking 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: a lot today on the air about this, the Democrat 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: side of things. Are you confident that despite all the 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: polls about Joe Biden, having even Democrats concerned about his fitness, 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: his mental state, his age, et cetera, are they just 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: going to push it through with him as the nominee 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: and depending on that, what do you think will happen? 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: Well? 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: I obviously I'm not in those meetings when these guys 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: talk about those things, they don't invite us. But look, 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: I think everybody has to watch and sort of see 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: that what's going on with Joe Biden. The problem is 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 3: I think that he's actually perfect for the situation they like, 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: and that is his admitted because he's obviously, you know, 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 3: at this point, not the same guy he used to be. 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: Let's just put it kindly. He's a perfect vessel for 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 3: them to do all the things they want to do. 26 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: So they have basically populated his administration with every radical 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: that you can imagine from the far left, and they're 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: implementing policies. Look, he's out there advocating for stuff that 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: he was never for. He didn't even think about it. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: Do you think Joe Biden seven nine years ago would 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: be talking about transgender issues or anything like that. I mean, 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: these things were just well, he was either completely unaware 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: of them or he was against them, openly against them. 34 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: So he's just a vessel for them to achieve these things. 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: And then let's imagine that it didn't work out after 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: a couple of years and this helped the siates further 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: or what have you. Then they get Kamala Harris, someone 38 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: who can't possibly be elected, but she can certainly reach 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: there if she's the vice president of the United States. 40 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: So it's a two foot for them. And I think, frankly, 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: he's just the sort of figurehead which is perfect for them. 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 5: Center Rubio, you've got the big case going on down 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: in Miami now, which is in your state. What do 44 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 5: you think of the charges that have been brought by 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: the Department of Justice? 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 6: What do you think? 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 5: Obviously you're not running for president this go around, but 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: you're in the Senate. What do you think Republicans should 49 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 5: do or think about the precedent that's being set based 50 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: on those charges. 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things. The first is that let 52 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: me flat out say that I don't think there should 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: be classified documents in Joe Biden's garage or Marl local 54 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 3: Hillary's servers. Not that said now, and understand that indictments 55 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: are one sided documents, right, It is the prosecution the 56 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: strongest case. That's what they want you to believe. That's 57 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: abody about charges. So the president is entitled to defense 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: and is entitled to poke holes in their case. And 59 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 3: I'm not as lawyer, and I'm sure they'll do all that. Now, 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: there's this thing called prosecutor of discretion. It's used every day. 61 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 3: That is the discretion they use, for example, to say, 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: you know that guy that set fire to a federal building, 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 3: We're not going to press charges against rioters the federal 64 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: government's done that in DC, and local prosecutor's done all 65 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: over the country. Much less extreme than anything that's accused 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: of here, likewise, was immigration. You know, ice attorneys every 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: day decide we're not going to move to deport somebody, 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: you know, prosecutor of discretion and what I mean to 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: the prosecutor looks at a case and says, Okay, what 70 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: is the harm alleged here versus what is the harm 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: of bringing the prosecution? The harm of bringing this prosecution 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: is extraordinary. I mean you now see attacks on the judge, obviously, 73 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: counterattacks on the prosecutor, and just to further divide the country. 74 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: There's no claim of harm. There's no claim even in 75 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: the indictment. It does not say this is the harm 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: it did to the national security of the United States. 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: Any reasonable prosecutors for the way those two things and decided, look, 78 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: this is not worth bringing this prosecution. I mean, the 79 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: payment's going to inflict and the divisiveness is enormous. But 80 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 3: obviously there was no discretion allowed here. This guy was 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: picked specifically for the purposes of knocking out Trump and 82 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: WEAPONI and that's called the weaponization of our system. And 83 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: when you compare that to how they handled portray it, 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: how they handled Hillary Clinton, how they handled Sandy Berger 85 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: steeling those documents, how they've handled issue after issue, It's 86 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: not even close. I mean, we still don't know what's 87 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: going on with the Biden investigation on those documents, So 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: that dual standard of we're going to be you know, 89 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: we're going to come hard at you, you're Donald Trump especially, 90 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: but we're not really going to do that for anybody else, 91 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: especially if you're from the left. I think that further 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: divided the country. But I think it ultimately undermines the 93 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 3: credibility of our system and really sort of really begins 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 3: to get at the heart and creates a rot at 95 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: the very heart of the foundation of our republic. 96 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: Senator Rubio with us now from Florida. Senator, do you 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 2: have any thoughts so far? I know that we don't 98 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: have all the information yet or all the evidence yet, 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: but some House Republicans and now some of your colleagues 100 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: in the Senate have been saying they believe there's much 101 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: more damning evidence relating to Joe Biden, including even either 102 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: Hunter or and or Joe Biden on tape talking to 103 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: a Barisma executive about the exchange of money for access. 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 7: Do you have any thoughts on this? 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Do you think this could be something that really does 106 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: finally break through and force some accountability for the Biden regime. 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, because I don't have access to 108 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: the information that those folks have. I have no reason 109 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: to believe they're lying about it, but we haven't seen it. 110 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: But here's what we do know. It's important to set 111 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: the stage on them right now. What we are facing 112 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: is the following, and that is clearly someone came to 113 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: the FBI and filed a complaint with detailed information. And generally, 114 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: you don't you know, anybody can walk into an FBI 115 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: office and make a claim. So these things are out 116 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: there in the public. You could be destroying people's reputation 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: and so forth. So I understand that part of it. 118 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: The problem we have here is we have a whistleblower. 119 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: And this whistle blower I don't know who it is. 120 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: I haven't spoken to them, but they came to Chuck 121 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: Rastley and said it appears to be someone within the 122 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 3: FBI and said this is an a credible claim. And 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: the FBI did nothing. They did nothing to ascertain whether 124 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: any of it was true. So right now, what I 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: think the sense of question is did the FBI have 126 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: credible allegations and refuse to do anything to investigate in 127 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: essence to find out if there was any grassy behind it, 128 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: because we do know that they spent three years and 129 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: a lot of money. They mean, it's just a department 130 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: of trying to prove a dossier that we now know 131 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: was a political document. It was an opposition research, fake 132 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: document that was paid for, and we threw this country 133 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: for three years of money and time and decision over 134 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: something that ended up being completely faked. And they did 135 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 3: investigate that one. So again dual standard of justice in 136 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: the two systems. And so right now the core question 137 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 3: is did the FBI do anything? Did they work to 138 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: find these parts indeed, any of these allegations they're true. 139 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: Did they look at bank records either they were payments 140 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: being made. All that said, I do think and I 141 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: have no reason to not believe Comber that a lot 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: of money flowed into the biden As family and some 143 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: of the structures that they set up, you know, these 144 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: small corporations and the name of their nieces and grandchildren, 145 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: some of them barely eighteen nineteen years of day that 146 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: that stuff. I mean that in and other self marriage, 147 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: looking at why would somebody do that and pay them 148 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: all this money of leus It's something in exchange for it. 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: So I think there is some this is a credible thing. 150 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: There's enough information now that at a minimum, we should 151 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: be asking has the FBI investigated this? Because if they haven't, 152 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: it's clearly political. 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 5: Senator, did you ever think that we would reach a position? 154 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: I know you're a lawyer as well. Some of the 155 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: stuff that I see happening right now is just crazy. 156 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 5: I mean, what you're talking about with the FBI, what 157 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 5: you're talking about with our Department of Justice, It's something 158 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: that frankly, I never would have believed that we would see. 159 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 5: I know you represent the state of Florida. Tons of 160 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: people have come to Florida Venezuelan's Cubans to try to 161 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 5: move away from this idea of the chief executive, former president, 162 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 5: or person who's running for political office being put in 163 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 5: prison to try to keep him from being elected. How 164 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: do we fix let's take outside of the Trump situation, 165 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: how do we fix our Department of Justice? How do 166 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: we fix our FBI? Because I met you, and certainly 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: me and I know BUS have no faith right now 168 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 5: in the impartial application of justice in this country, and 169 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 5: that's an awful place for us to find ourselves. 170 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: Just on the point of the FBI, I think it's 171 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: really important to say, and I don't know what the 172 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: right statistical number is, that the overwhelming majority of your 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: field agent and your local left THEI office doesn't care 174 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: about any of this. It's not involved in doing these things. 175 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: They're out there trying to catch child traffickers. Yeah, we're 176 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: really talking about is the high levels of the Justice Department. 177 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: The people get promoted, Okay, the people that bought into 178 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: all this That's really what we're talking about here now 179 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: in the case of what Yes, look, this is what 180 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: my book's about. It's called Decadents, meaning we're America. The 181 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: Cold War ended. We thought we could do whatever we 182 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 3: want it, including destroy our institutions in our way of life. 183 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: So we said, it doesn't matter where the jobs are. 184 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: Send all the jobs to China. 185 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 4: It's all right. 186 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean, things will be cheaper to buy at Walmart. 187 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 3: Send our factories over seas. We don't need factories anymore. 188 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: We're all going to be software engineers. Just we don't 189 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: need family anymore. You can be raised online, the schools, 190 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: the popular media, and you know, the families. Anybody who 191 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: wants to be family can call themselves that. We're all 192 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: so thiszens in the world. There's no nationhood. Why do 193 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: we need a border? In fact, having a border is 194 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: zenophobic and hateful. And now it extends to politics and 195 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: the hysteria of the important thing is we've got to 196 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: win elections, and so let's it doesn't matter if we 197 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 3: destroy our institutions or the country. It doesn't matter if 198 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: we shred this country or said its pillars on fire, 199 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: as long as we win the election. And then I 200 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: think when it comes to Trump is a special case. 201 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: Their hatred for him has reached a point now where 202 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: they don't even pretend anymore. There's no pretending. I mean, 203 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 3: it's spot out and thought. In the media coverage this week. 204 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: You see it in the smears of this judge Eileen Cannon, 205 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: someone the kind of person we want to see on 206 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: the bench. They're going after her, you know, which, they 207 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: would never tolerate her, They would criticize roundly if it 208 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: was in the other direction. So how do we get 209 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: it fixed? I think it's first of all, by acknowledging 210 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: that we can't just do whatever we want, like eventually 211 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: this stuff catches up with us, and it's catching up 212 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: with us now. But every pillar of what made this 213 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: country create our system are our republic, family, community, strong 214 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: economy that produces good local jobs, the nationhood, and when 215 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: we stopped thinking about the national interest in making our decisions, 216 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: were the only country in the world that doesn't decide 217 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: first and foremost. We're going to do things that are 218 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: good for America before anything else. All these things are 219 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 3: now catching up and it's and it's you know, embedded 220 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 3: itself at every institution, academy of the media, government, bureaucracy, 221 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: you name it. And I think first it starts by 222 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: recognizing it and then pushing back against it very strongly 223 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: in terms of passing laws and the like, accountability and oversight. 224 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: I think what they're doing in the House is extraordinary. 225 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: I mean, if we had not won of the majority 226 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: in the House, we wouldn't know any of this stuff. 227 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 5: Senator you there's a story if I read this morning 228 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 5: on out kick you tried to take out an advertisement 229 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 5: because today and Buck and I have talked about this 230 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 5: a lot The Dodgers are honoring in many ways, an 231 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 5: anti Catholic group at a Pride night event in Los Angeles. 232 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: What did you try to do? What did the Dodgers 233 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 5: refuse to allow you to do? And for people out 234 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 5: there who were not familiar with what's going going on, 235 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 5: kind of give us a sense of why this is 236 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 5: such a big deal. I'm sure it ties in with 237 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 5: what you wrote in your book. Uh, it certainly seems 238 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 5: to crystallize this issue. 239 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, first of all, this is not even an 240 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: anti Pride event things. Okay, I think this has gone 241 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: too far. It's too much in your face. It's just constant, 242 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: you know, and and and I think people are getting 243 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: set up with that. But that's a whole lot of matter. 244 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: What happened here is they invited a group called the 245 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: This is a perpetual I don't know what, but it's 246 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: basically a group of of men that dress up as 247 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: women and openly mock the Catholic Church. And I mean, 248 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: like grotesquely mocks the Catholic Church, right, like take the 249 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 3: user condom as the Eucharist and all this sort of thing. 250 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: It's an anti Catholic, bigoted, anti Christian group. That's what 251 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: they've known so so much, the case that there are 252 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: even you know, LGBC groups that will not associate with them. 253 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: So the Dodgers invite them, and they're going to honor 254 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: them as community heroes. I write the Dodgers a letter 255 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 3: and say, how can you invite these cdceoples, the hate groups. 256 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: It's a bigot. If they had if they had been 257 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: doing those things to Islam or Judaism or you know whatever, 258 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: they would never have allowed that. Well, they disinvited them, then, 259 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: of course, you know, the rain hell on them from 260 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: you know, all these groups in the media. And after 261 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 3: three or four days, the Dodger's cave and they reinvited 262 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: them back. So I tried to run an ad that basically, 263 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: they're honoring a hate group. They're honoring an anti Catholic, 264 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: anti Christian hate group, a grotesque anti hate group, anti Catholic, 265 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,599 Speaker 3: anti Christian hate group, and the station that carries the 266 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 3: Dodgers broadcast up wouldn't run it. Same with the LA Times. 267 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: We reached out to them and tried to have an 268 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: off that publish state and even answer. So I just 269 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: think I make this go away and just do whatever 270 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: they want and and you know, now, what they're doing 271 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 3: is they're closing off every avenue. We have to communicate 272 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: to people about it, and so you know, we've got 273 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: to continue to push on it. But but look, to me, 274 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: this is really beyond everything else. This is about anti 275 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: Christian bigotry. It's not just being tolerated, it's being celebrated. 276 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 3: It's being honored, honored by a major league franchise that, 277 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: by the way, enjoys anti trust exemption from Congress. I 278 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 3: don't know why we should get rid of it. 279 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: The book is decades of decadence. How are spoiled elites? 280 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Blue America's Inheritance of liberty, security, and Prosperity? 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Interesting from Rubio, who is 306 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: pretty aggressive I think on going after the weaponization of 307 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 5: the Justice Department going forward, and you know, certainly we 308 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 5: haven't talked about it, Buck, but this attack on Eileen Cannon, 309 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 5: who is the Federal District Court judge who has had 310 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 5: so far this Trump case assigned to her is supposedly 311 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 5: everything that Democrats hate, right, they hate the idea that 312 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: justice in any way would be attacked. Yet I believe 313 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 5: I read that there are five judges who potentially could 314 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: have been assigned to this case. Eileen Cannon has previously 315 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 5: dealt with the mar A Lago investigation in some way, 316 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 5: and so she has been now appointed, and Rubio was 317 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 5: and you just heard him talk about her. Rubio was 318 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 5: one of the Senators who identified her and said, hey, 319 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 5: I want to put you forward as potentially a federal 320 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 5: District court nominee. And they're not happy because she's not 321 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 5: a rabid zealot, anti Trump judge like so many of 322 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: the judges have been, including it appears, the New York 323 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: City judge who has got the Alvin Bragg case. And 324 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 5: so immediately they turned into hypocrites buck and attacked her 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 5: when they're claiming that justice said truth and everything matters. 326 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: But as soon as they get a judge they don't like, 327 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 5: they immediately abandon all of the auspices of the independence 328 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: of the juiciary and how important it is. 329 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: It's remarkable, isn't it. I Mean, what's that There's that 330 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: quote from children of Children of Doune, you know from 331 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: Frank Herbert where he says, when I am weak, I 332 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: demand freedom because it is according to your rules, and 333 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 2: when I am strong, I demand power obedience because it 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: is according to my rules. That is how democrats play 335 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: right when it's to their advantage. They're all principles, the laws, 336 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: the law, party over country, all this stuff, and the 337 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: second that things go against them, it's whatever it takes, 338 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: whatever we can do. You know, judges are sacred. How 339 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 2: dare you question a judge? Oh, this judge doesn't seem 340 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: like he or she leans in our favor. Destroy them 341 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: all like they're horrible. I mean, it's so obvious, right, 342 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: But Clay, when you have no principles or integrity to protect, 343 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: as democrats do not, you have a lot of leeway. 344 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 7: You can do a lot of things, no end of options. 345 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 6: I will just put this on the radar. 346 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 5: I haven't heard anybody talking about it would. 347 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 6: Not stun me. 348 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: Buck if she responds to one of these motions, which 349 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: is seeking to dismiss many of these charges by granting it, 350 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 5: and if you want to see an absolute implosion, imagine 351 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 5: what that would do to this case. I'm just tossing 352 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 5: it out there, in particular this attorney client privilege argument 353 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: which they allowed the crime fraud exemption to occur. I'm 354 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 5: not sure that's the right ruling. I'm really not, and 355 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 5: it would not stun me if she overturned that, which 356 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 5: could lead to much of this case collapsing if they 357 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 5: don't have that evidence. 358 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: That quote, by the way, is when I am weaker 359 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: than you, I ask for freedom because that is according 360 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 2: to your principles. When I am stronger than you, I 361 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. 362 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 2: That is the Democrats on all things. Good Light continues 363 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: to have its descent. The kegs have been cracked, the 364 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: beer is spilled out onto the streets, so to speak. 365 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 7: Things are not going. 366 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: Well in bud light world. Very interesting to see that. 367 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: Now The Washington Post was doing some analysis on well, 368 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 2: a lot of domestic beers have been seeing a drop 369 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: in sales, so you know, maybe. 370 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 7: It was just part of it. Now, no, nice try. 371 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 2: They do not want the reality to set in that 372 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 2: wokeness can be a massive a massive risk for companies 373 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: because this is a huge change in perception. It had 374 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: been that wokeness was nothing but upside really because even 375 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work with your audience, it works within 376 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: the corporate corridors and the HR seminars. But now things 377 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: are different, at least if you look at the bud 378 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: light situation, and I think we're going to see more 379 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: pressure coming on Target as well. But Clay, the response 380 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: this is so classic. The response of bud Light CEO here, 381 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: Brendan Whitworth, does not inspire confidence, I think, and a 382 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 2: lot of the bud Light faithful who are still out there, 383 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people that just 384 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: like you know, you just kick back and you drink 385 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: a bud light. Not anymore, they haven't been doing it 386 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: as much. But the approach here is he first of all, 387 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: he vows to protect the jobs of workers and independent 388 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: wholesalers that I like, we actually called for that on 389 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: this show. So if Anheuser Busch in BEV, the massive 390 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: multinational conglomerate, is going to make sure that no one 391 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: who is a bud light, you know that there won't 392 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: be bud light collateral damage. I have to say I 393 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: think that's the right move ethically and from a corporate 394 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: responsibility standpoint. Bud Light sales have dropped twenty four zero 395 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: point four percent in the last in the past week. 396 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: According to the Daily Mail. 397 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: Here, Modello Especial is now the number one selling beer 398 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: in a Erica. So that's an interesting situation. But here's 399 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: what I'm seeing that that made me think, I don't 400 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 2: think they get it yet, Clay. 401 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 7: They say that. 402 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: The CEO's new campaign is in essence bud Light, easy 403 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: to drink and easy to enjoy, and the CEO is 404 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: going to be traveling the US this summer with the 405 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 2: brand easy to drink and easy to enjoy. 406 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 7: That's not gonna cut it. 407 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: You know, that's not going to be enough. I mean, 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 2: that's about as as corporate inoffensive, poll tested. 409 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 7: Bring in the. 410 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: Focus group kind of a response to all this, I 411 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: think you can get. So I think that until somebody 412 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: sees I brought up it was Domino's right. The Dominoes 413 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: campaign was sheer, honesty, with with the with the possible 414 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: audience and customer base, which was guys. We built a 415 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: brand and we became famous as a as a pizza chain, 416 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: and our stuff just started to be bad, like we 417 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: got worse ingredients is bad. We're changing it. We're doing 418 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: a better job now we've heard you just changing the 419 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: bud Light branding. Too easy to drink, easy to enjoy. 420 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: It's also easy to buy another kind of beer, clay. 421 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 422 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: And I think even worse for bud Light now it 423 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: is if you drink bud Light, you get made fun of. 424 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 5: I'll give you an example. Last night, I was out 425 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: to uh, I was out to dinner. I ordered a 426 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 5: beer and one of the people I was with said, Notice, 427 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 5: you didn't get a bud Light, right. That is a 428 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 5: joke that men all over this country are making with 429 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 5: each other right now. And Buck, you mentioned and you 430 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 5: tweeted this. The Washington Post is trying to do cleanup. 431 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: They had a story that said bud Light has been 432 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 5: targeted by a recent boycott, but consumers might be moving 433 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 5: away from the brand anyway, amid stagnation for domestic beer 434 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 5: in general. That's their headline, right. They don't want to 435 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: acknowledge it. This is the community notes. Did you see this, 436 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 5: Buck well hold direct, Let's get to it. 437 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 2: Let's get to it, because so I responded to this, 438 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: and I just said that the left will be increasingly desperate. 439 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: Notice the will be increasingly desperate to convince conservatives that 440 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: their highly successful campaign against bud Light wasn't effective after 441 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: all and definitely shouldn't be duplicated against other woke targets. 442 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: Meaning they're just hoping people think this is a one 443 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: off and no big deal, and you know, a bunch 444 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: of other things happening, And now you can talk about 445 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: the community notes. 446 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 5: Well, community notes for those of you who haven't been 447 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: paying attention, has become a way to check artificial narratives 448 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 5: on Twitter in real time. And the context directly beneath 449 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: the Washington Post headline here is Bush natural. Miller and 450 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: Keystone have not ex eperience the twenty nine percent drop 451 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 5: in sales of bud Light which coincided with the boycott 452 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: of the brand. 453 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 6: In fact, Miller Lite. 454 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 5: Has experienced a twenty point seven percent and Core's Light 455 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 5: a twenty two percent increase in sales. 456 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 7: Since the boycott began. 457 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 5: That's important context, because you're right, what they're gonna do 458 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 5: is the same thing, Buck that we talked about yesterday. 459 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: I saw this in sports. 460 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: No one would acknowledge that the NBA was taking body 461 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 5: blows to its brand by going woke because the sports 462 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 5: media doesn't want to acknowledge because they're so far left wing, 463 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 5: that conservatives have this power, or that going woke can 464 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: hurt brands because they want brands to continue to be woke. 465 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 7: What is that? 466 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: I mean? 467 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: I just the people who added this community note on 468 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Twitter are not very literate. 469 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 7: What does that have to do with what I say? 470 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: Has nothing to do with what I say, nothing to 471 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 2: do at all with my claim that they're going to 472 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: they will push harder and harder. 473 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 5: Going through Yeah, no, no, you're that's a response to the 474 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: Washington Post calling them out for that headline where they're 475 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 5: trying to say that this is not related to the 476 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: consumer conservative boycott, Like, you're right, That's what Washington Post 477 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 5: is doing. The reader note is adding the context to say, actually, 478 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,439 Speaker 5: this is not true, Washington Post. Which is what I 479 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: like about these community notes, because it when there's an 480 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: artificial narrative that is trying to be pushed. You're right 481 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: one hundred percent. They're gonna now say because the numbers 482 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: are down, oh, this is symptomatic of a larger scale 483 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 5: issue with domestic beer in general. And so the data 484 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 5: they're like, actually, everybody's buying way more Miller Lite and 485 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 5: Core's Light. It's not only that Bud Light is collapsing. 486 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 5: It's that a lot of dudes out there, and I'm 487 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 5: a good example of this. I would choose now to 488 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 5: get a Miller Lite over a bud Light. Like if 489 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 5: you I say, hey, what beers do you have? And 490 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 5: the other thing is but buck Modello becoming number one 491 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: overall studdying to me. If I had had to bet 492 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 5: beforehand as a beer drinker, I would have thought Corona 493 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 5: was more popular than Medello. Like even if you had 494 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: told me, hey, there's a Mexican beer that is surging, 495 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 5: I think Medello is Mexican based, and I might not 496 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: even be correct about that. And for people out there 497 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 5: who are saying, well, this is also an InBev product, 498 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 5: that's not true. In the United States, Medello is owned 499 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 5: by a different brand, so this is directly taking money 500 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: out of their pocket. And the bud Light brand has 501 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: actually now spun over to Budweiser, which is seeing a decline, 502 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 5: and to Mick Ultra, which is. 503 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 6: Also a product. 504 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 5: So there were some people who are like, well, so 505 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 5: what more people are just gonna drink InBev products. No, 506 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 5: it's actually now turning into a body blow across brands 507 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 5: for them. 508 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 2: I just think it's indicative though, of the response heor 509 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: the intransigence of the c suite is bud Light easy 510 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: to drink, easy enjoy. That is the worst approach to 511 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 2: this imaginable. This is like what they initially did. Hey, 512 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 2: oh you're upset because we thought that our beer was 513 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: too fretty and out of touch. So we had some 514 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: trans influencer, you know, posing with the beer and pushing 515 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: it on people. Let's just have some horses in a commercial. 516 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 2: Let's pull out the Clydesdale's. I mean, it's condescending, quite honestly. 517 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: That's the problem. People realize. It's like, what are you 518 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: guys doing. 519 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 5: It's what happens buck when you have an entire executive 520 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 5: suite of advisors who would never be the people who 521 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 5: consume your product. And this is the downside, right, This 522 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 5: is eventually what happens when the brand loses touch with 523 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 5: its audience. And people in New York and LA who 524 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 5: would never touch a bud Light if their life depended 525 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: on it make millions of dollars to be advocates for 526 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: bud Light. And this is a bigger issue for brands 527 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 5: in general. I know a lot of founders I worry 528 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 5: about this, honestly, Buck without Kick. 529 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 6: Right I sold out to Fox. 530 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 5: I spend a huge percentage of my time now trying 531 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 5: to make sure that we stay true to the vision 532 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: with which I found it out Kick, I don't own 533 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 5: it anymore, right, But any founder who knows that experience 534 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 5: of hey, you've had some success, you sell your brand 535 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 5: to a bigger company, It's easy sometimes to lose what 536 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: made the brand authentic and connect with the audience in 537 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 5: the first place. Once you get into the corporate suite 538 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: and you've got a lot of guys and girls who 539 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 5: never understood the brand in the first place suddenly making 540 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 5: brand decisions, they start to lead in a direction that 541 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 5: doesn't make sense. I think that's what's happened to bud Light, 542 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 5: and they. 543 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 6: Still aren't getting their response right. 544 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 5: Fuck, I could go in in two days, I could 545 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 5: remake the entire bud Light marketing pitch of it. You 546 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 5: could too, and they would have a huge percentage of 547 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 5: their audience back in six months. The fact that they 548 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: continue to refuse to do this means they'd rather lose 549 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 5: billions of dollars than just do what they're consumer. 550 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 2: You know what the truth is, let's say we did 551 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 2: our remake, we did our Clay and Buck remake. The 552 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 2: bud Light approach right now to get back to its roots, 553 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: and it was, Hey, remember those commercials you used to 554 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: do that were funny and that were irreverent, and that 555 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: were about America and comedy and beautiful women and football 556 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, right, football, whatever, let's run some 557 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: of those. The executives in charge of this brand, just 558 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: like so many other brands, would rather continue to insult 559 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: their consumers then feel. 560 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 6: A little weird at their. 561 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: Upper East Side or Santa Monica or wherever cocktail party 562 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: among their peers, because if they did that, then they'd 563 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 2: have to look at the other people, the other rich 564 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: elites that they hang out with, and say, yeah, we're 565 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: going back to basics with bud Light. And they would say, hmm, 566 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 2: it's a little fratty. Don't really approve that's the truth. 567 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 5: That joke is funny, aren't you What about the people 568 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: who don't like that joke? Are you sure you want 569 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: to be associated with that? That's what they would say, unforced. 570 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: That's the world. 571 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: Left wing feminists, the least entertaining and using people on 572 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 2: planet Earth. Inflation is still a problem and prices are 573 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: still very high and with the current stock market volatility. 574 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what's your retirement account looking like after the 575 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: last twelve months or so. 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We've been talking about it. 623 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 5: James Carvel weighed in as well on CNN recently associated 624 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 5: with that. 625 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 6: What do you think? John? 626 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: Happy for her? Gentlemen, you know, I just I'm not 627 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 4: sure what we can gain by going that route. You've 628 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 4: got your people that are going to vote the party 629 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 4: lines regardless. So you know, on the right, we're looking 630 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 4: for the independence or people on the fence. If you 631 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: already like Trump, you're gonna vote Republicans. But I think 632 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 4: the people on the fence, for example, people in my 633 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: family Republican values but just hate Trump, and I think 634 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: you're gonna lose those votes more than you're gonna gain 635 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: by a Republican running on that platform. 636 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 6: Of yeah, I understand that. I understand that argument. What 637 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 6: do you think? 638 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: So my theory on this buck is this is the 639 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 5: way you have to communicate it. You say, I'm standing 640 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 5: on principle and I think it's wrong to put Donald 641 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: Trump in in jail. I think actually the majority of 642 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 5: the American public, if that are is made in a 643 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 5: convincing fashion, well done, and that you argue you're standing 644 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 5: on principle, I think the majority of Americans agree, and 645 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 5: I think that play's not bad with independence at all. 646 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 2: I think that you say that with former presidents there 647 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: is a degree of prosecutorial discretion that should come into 648 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: play from the DOJ that we don't even want the 649 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: perception of political targeting. So unless it is we've said 650 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: this before, and I mean, yeah, god forbid this ever 651 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: actually happens. But if you had a former president, we 652 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: keep saying, you know, the thing that could happen, drunk 653 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: driving kills a family of three in a horrible collision. 654 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: He's got to go to prison. I don't care that 655 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 2: he was a former president. Right, We all understand there 656 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: are limits here, but the document obstruction and the argument 657 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 2: over the Presidential Records Act. I mean this, this is 658 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: worthy of sending a former president to prison. Now, it 659 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: does bring up issues, as I've said, of well what 660 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: about other people, lower level people that mishandled documents are 661 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: treated horribly under the ESPONA, and that is unfair, and 662 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: I've always said that is unfair. So there is an 663 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: argument here for that. But as I've said, Democrats are 664 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: totally willing to allow illegal aliens to be in the 665 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 2: country in violation of federal law in a whole range 666 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,479 Speaker 2: of ways, not just their status, document fraud signing, things 667 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: that aren't you know, forgery and all kinds of documents, 668 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that goes on. Can I just 669 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: we have a caller wants to weigh on the Pence issue. 670 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 2: Anthony in Beaufort, North Carolina. What's up, Anthony? 671 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 8: I don't just know the damn paradise out here on 672 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 8: the coast. 673 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: Are you near Newborn? 674 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: I love Newburn by the way, I went out there 675 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: visited a friend a couple of years ago. 676 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 8: Yes, Newburn's about forty minutes away. 677 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 7: From me, lovely. So what's your thought on Pence? 678 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 8: You know I've got to stand up and defend the 679 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 8: boy scout. And that's exactly what Pence is. He's a 680 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 8: boy scout, He's by the book. He's the guy that 681 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 8: wears a white hat. 682 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 9: You know, I don't like this push for the pardon 683 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 9: thing because you're basically. 684 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 8: Trying to say that we are going to circumvent and 685 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 8: just the system. 686 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: No matter what. 687 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 9: And I deeply compare that to somebody that's sitting in 688 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 9: office right now saying, well, I don't agree with what 689 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 9: Congress is doing, so I'm going to do an executive 690 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 9: order and bypass Congress. I believe that there's a deeper. 691 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 8: Plan here, and if Trump plays. 692 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 9: It through, it goes through the appeals process, if he's 693 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 9: even found convicted, it might get appealed all the way 694 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 9: up to the Supreme Court, and then all the cards 695 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 9: are going to be out on the table for everybody 696 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 9: to see. 697 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: Anthony, thank you. We got to go into a break now. 698 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling in for North Carolina. Clay, there's 699 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: a Disney movie that's not looking like it's so great. 700 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: Is this part of a bigger anti Disney backlash? We'll 701 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: talk about it