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Speaker 1: Who Do Who. A little show update from Stradia Lab

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Speaker 1: headquarters is that this Saturday, October nineteenth, Sam and I

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Speaker 1: have dueling shows coast to coast. So if you are

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, get your tickets to Sam Taggart and

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Speaker 1: Friends at Dynasty Typewriter featuring Chris Fleming, Sophie Buttle, Joe, Kimbooster,

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Speaker 1: and Rachel Colli. And if you're in New York, get

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Speaker 1: your tickets for George Severis and Friends at Union Hall

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Speaker 1: featuring Max Witter, Brittney Carney, Just Tom and Michael Aber.

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Speaker 1: And both of those shows again are this Saturday, October nineteenth.

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Speaker 1: And next month you can see me at Joe's Pub

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Speaker 1: as part of the New York Comedy Festival, which is

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Speaker 1: so exciting and it's always been my dream to perform

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Speaker 1: there not to be a Bitch, And that is November

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Speaker 1: fourteenth and November twenty fifth, in the first show I

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Speaker 1: think is either sold out or selling out very fast,

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Speaker 1: so get those tickets in November twenty fifth, and all

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Speaker 1: ticket links are in our various Instagram bios And we

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you, whether you're in Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: for in New York. And we promised the Toronto show

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Speaker 1: link is coming. But the show exists and it's happening

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Speaker 1: in November. Okay, I love you. Enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. Wow, welcome all to Stradio Lab. We

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Speaker 2: are here in the studio and George has claimed.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm being accused already. What did I claim? Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember making a claim.

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Speaker 2: I remember you making a claim that you would maybe

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Speaker 2: have nothing to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess we'll see how that goes so far.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm just responding to the claim. Well, we

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Speaker 1: were saying that it's important in a dynamic between two people,

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Speaker 1: for what in a creative partnership, even for one of

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Speaker 1: them to be constantly worried, have run out of things

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Speaker 1: to talk about, and for the other one to be

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Speaker 1: so chill about it that it's almost oppressive.

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Speaker 2: I'm not bringing toxic positivity into this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so then what you're but you're just so.

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Speaker 2: To me as a matter of fact, it's just like

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Speaker 2: we will have something to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Like have you ever in your life, yeah, needed to

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Speaker 2: talk about something and just not had anything to say. Yes, Okay, when.

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Speaker 1: You famously love silence, like this is the thing you're

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Speaker 1: saying we'll always have something to talk about, but then

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Speaker 1: you actually admittedly have said that you like you like

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Speaker 1: quote unquote like the silence is too much.

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Speaker 2: Well you, in fact likely we have nothing to talk about.

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Speaker 2: It's not that we have nothing to talk about. I

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Speaker 2: like when we say something and sort of have nowhere

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think bombing anti comedy.

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Speaker 2: I think bombing is radical, and I think it's so

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Speaker 2: funny to have, like to be especially in a crowd

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Speaker 2: like Australia Lab Show, where people are really excited to

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Speaker 2: see us, and we still like have like maybe a

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Speaker 2: five minute period where we're just not It's amazing to me.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, the way we have stuck to

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Speaker 1: our roots of alternative comedy, despite all the accolades, all

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Speaker 1: the success we've had. I mean, the other day I

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Speaker 1: didn't even tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Someone keeping secrets I see hitched.

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Speaker 1: A like a high profile politician to the podcast. I literally,

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Speaker 1: without even talking to you, said no, wait, no, you

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Speaker 1: would not have. You would not have. It's in New York, Adams,

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Speaker 1: it's a New York politicians. It's not Eric Adams, but

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Speaker 1: it's in your politician, but I was just like, no,

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Speaker 1: like we refuse to grow. We are going to have

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious to have a politician. I mean it

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Speaker 2: would probably be bad, but that's why would be good.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can I tell you something actually? Oh, all right,

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Speaker 1: this is something I would love your take on on Mike.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I love I love when we challenge each other

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Speaker 2: because we have to answer honestly and in the record.

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Speaker 1: I actually think because both of us, I would not

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Speaker 1: say we're conflict to avoid him by any means. And

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Speaker 1: I think generally we have a good working relationship. But

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Speaker 1: there is a part of me the it's like sometimes

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Speaker 2: Of course, And when there's a guest on like, I've

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Speaker 2: How would you like to respond?

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Speaker 1: Okay, here's my thing. Sometimes I'll have an idea, maybe

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Speaker 2: Maybe, so I'm like, but maybe I'm just like a

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Speaker 3: A critique yourself.

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, but it's not even a critique. It's like

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Speaker 1: taking a risk by suggesting something new, and then in

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Speaker 1: my mind you're like, that's not really what we do.

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Speaker 2: Sure, well, I don't know how you want me to

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Speaker 2: for you. I'm always open to your suggestions, and I

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Speaker 2: think you have great ideas.

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Speaker 1: How do you do you ever have a similar thing

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's usually the opposite where I'll like suggest something

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Speaker 2: to you it's something that I want to say no to,

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Speaker 2: and I assume you're going to say no, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're like I love that, and I'm always

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Speaker 2: like wait because I actually do think maybe like you're

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Speaker 2: the less picky one and I'm the one that's like

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Speaker 2: we are a comedy podcast. Yes, let's like stick to

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Speaker 2: what we do.

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Speaker 1: I think that we have to we will bring in

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Speaker 1: our guests leave simply watching us have a business meeting

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Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 2: And he's learning.

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Speaker 1: I do think, yeah, yeah, yeah, take these learnings here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do think that you are.

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Speaker 1: There's something about like the comedy parameters, Yeah, where it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta leave them at some point because that quote

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Speaker 1: unquote grows pod literally, but Scott Ackerman will have like

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Speaker 1: Shirley's thrown on and she's like doing a character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when he has Charlie's thrown he's doing missed

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Speaker 2: f But when she arrest development reference to anyone. Okay,

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Speaker 2: when she comes on though, it's sort of like like

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Speaker 2: a little bit flops. No, you're right, and you're always

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Speaker 2: like it almost makes the celebrity look worse.

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Speaker 1: I know you need to talk the right one. You

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Speaker 2: Course, I mean needless to say. If you were like,

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Speaker 2: should we have Emma Stone on? I would say yes.

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Speaker 1: You know who actually would crush is Jennifer Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: I don't know have to be like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: I knew it, And see this is why I don't ask.

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Speaker 1: I say, you know, what don't be this. You know

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Speaker 1: you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Just don't ask, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I just feel like Jennifer Lawrence would like gush it

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Speaker 2: to us too much.

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Speaker 1: Oh see, I think it would be the opposite where

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Speaker 2: That would be like a fun that's a fun sub game.

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Speaker 1: Little know what she would do. She would burp. She'd

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Speaker 2: She's absolutely burp.

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Speaker 1: Her straight topping would be burping. And then she would

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Speaker 1: like show how she can burp on command. Okay, we

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Speaker 2: Yes, we must do the honors.

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Speaker 1: I actually I am not familiar with.

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Speaker 2: Well you know, and you love him. Please welcome to

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Speaker 3: Joe kessel Baker, Hi, guys, a girl, I'm doing really well.

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Speaker 3: That was really a privilege to witness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you think?

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Speaker 3: What was your takeaway? I honestly felt like I was

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Speaker 3: watching Couple's Therapy last night. I felt like Orna for

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Speaker 1: Was well, you know, Orna's huge in this.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love her.

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Speaker 3: I love her a lot, but can we talk about about.

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Speaker 1: How bad the Thrupple is? And it literally made me

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Speaker 3: I don't you know what, I don't know if I agree.

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Speaker 2: Agree the throuble there wasn't any like real consequence.

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Speaker 1: It was a really I felt like they were performing.

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Speaker 1: They were perform all performing. There was no vulnerability there.

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Speaker 3: I thought. What was interesting was like how they were

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Speaker 2: I don't think I thought it was interesting with the

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Speaker 3: You. Yeah, you're just like very defensive. I mean he

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Speaker 2: It was like even his tone of voice, like no

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Speaker 3: But the thing that we kept saying was like he

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Speaker 1: Well, see, that's what I can decide with that really bad.

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Speaker 1: I think he's like really bad but insanely communicative in

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's so tangible. It's like we're doing yoga. What

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like get down from there.

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Speaker 2: That season was everyone was like had extreme problems in

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Speaker 2: a way where I was like, it's good. I'm impressed

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Speaker 2: can you just give me a couple that lost the spark?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is something about in that show. I actually

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Speaker 1: don't want it to be inclusive. I want it to

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Speaker 1: be basically like middle class straight couples yeah that are

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Speaker 2: Know, I get a huge out of any gay couple.

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Speaker 1: I love it, gay or straight.

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Speaker 3: The religious couple though, was pretty Oh my god, they

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Speaker 3: were very traditional.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my favorites, of course, are the ex Mormons

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Speaker 3: I'm actually watching that right now. Wow, you're watching I'm

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Speaker 3: watching it backwards. When she's a way of queering the show, Wow,

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's amazing that's amazing. No, I have felt that,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think in theory, they don't think they're bad people.

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Speaker 1: This is actually why I'm like, maybe couple's therapy or

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Speaker 2: Mean, there's so many people I know that have gone

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just that, but they also then think

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Speaker 2: I mean from like even watching watching couples therapy is

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Speaker 2: like pretty much all I need. I'm like, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: Orna and you're good.

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Speaker 2: I mean literally, you have a lot trust me, it works. Okay,

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Speaker 3: You know what I want though, is I want that

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Speaker 1: Not the hot gay guy. Wait, which one the daddy?

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Speaker 3: There's also like four gig guys in there. There's a

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Speaker 1: I instagrammed a photo of me watching couple Therapy and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have chills. That is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: I can't say anymore. Yeah, confidentiality, right, but yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: Very I do. I like, I want to see someone

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Speaker 3: I did see last night that they were drinking wine

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Speaker 3: I do? I do, yes, And I think it's great.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy that now they just all work as therapists.

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Speaker 3: Critsiats and they're all therapists therapists. Hey, the more the merrier,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're still a union hall.

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Speaker 3: Yes, there should have been more people at Union Hall.

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Speaker 3: Have a staff, should have a staff therapist. That be

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Speaker 2: Think that's a really good idea. A fact, Joe, our

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Speaker 2: It's basically this thing or this other thing. And the

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Speaker 1: Okay, um, okay, okay, going to the sweat tour or

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Speaker 3: Going to the sweat tour, okay, fish and chips or

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Speaker 3: piston chips, fish and chips.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, feeling a.

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Speaker 2: Chill okay, Jack antonov or crap No, I'm soft, crap

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Speaker 1: Flight of the concords or fight in the discord.

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Speaker 3: Those are equal, by the way, find the discord.

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Speaker 2: Leveraging your power or luxuriating in your shower.

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Speaker 1: Luxuriating winning a blue ribbon, or dance at the Pink

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Speaker 3: Dancing at the Pink Pony Club.

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Speaker 2: Guy Fiery or chef Boyardy.

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Speaker 3: Guy Fiery, He's wow, Wow, who is queer?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: Just making something up and making something lying, just fully lying.

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Speaker 3: But you believe me for a second. I didn't say no,

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Speaker 3: You said say more.

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Speaker 1: I would love it as guy. If Guy Fiery came

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine? I can't. I fully can't. Something. There's

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Speaker 2: Well, and he just loves the pleasures of food and

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Speaker 3: That's true. He's very kind of carnal, very cardinal. He's

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Speaker 1: He's gonna come out of his mind and then open

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Speaker 3: And imagine that would be amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, you know when Paul Hollywood like tears

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Speaker 2: a part little dessert, I'm like, you pervert, like little

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Speaker 2: little fingers getting.

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00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of like piggy, isn't it. It's like, you,

446
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: you know, disgusting.

447
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 2: He's he's by as well?

448
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: Who is a Hollywood and Guy Fairy are fucking yes?

449
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 3: Who's the top and who's the bottom?

450
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: That's sort of let's talk, not to stigmatize it, but

451
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: is that sort of a dream of yours that the

452
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 1: two of them would suck?

453
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be opposed watch. I would watch one hundred.

454
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: Okay, who is the top and who's the bottom?

455
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

456
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 3: Really, I would say, first of all, flip fuck.

457
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 2: First of I do think guy would be the bottom?

458
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 1: I agree? Now Hollywood cannot be vulnerable enough.

459
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 2: No, he refuses or.

460
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,399
Speaker 3: It's like a total versal, and it's like guys like

461
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 3: a top and Paul Hollywood like is so severe and

462
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 3: like but then like the second the bedroom door shuts,

463
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: he's like so vulnerable and it's like bottom, you know

464
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,239
Speaker 3: what I mean?

465
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 2: Have you seen this happen? When have you seen like

466
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: like one time I was saying about this couple and

467
00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: they were like the most like sort of boring, already normal,

468
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 2: and then like it goes to sex mode and they're

469
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: like their face changed.

470
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, this is scary.

471
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it happens like that a lot, where it's

472
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 3: like what's going on.

473
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had I'm trying to remember the details of this,

474
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: but we had a conversation once that was like, there

475
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: are two kinds of people. People who are fully in

476
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: character during sex and people who are it's almost like

477
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: acting versus stand up comedy. It's like, yeah, or people

478
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: who are like a version of themselves, and it's like

479
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: it takes effort to be like fuck, you know, because

480
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: you're you're and you are very aware that you're being

481
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: yourself and that this is like kind of a crazy

482
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: thing that we're doing. Yeah, and I do think that

483
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: is like actually a very clear line.

484
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

485
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: There are people that fully transform and people who for

486
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 1: whom it's a part of the continuum of their personality.

487
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

488
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's sort of like you never know what

489
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna get.

490
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 3: No, no, you never that's why you have to have

491
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: sex with everyone. That's right too, And that's what I

492
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 3: said as well, you have to fuck everybody. I do

493
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: think it's a little bit of both, though I don't

494
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: think you do. I don't think it's like.

495
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: You don't think you think more of a variety.

496
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think sometimes you get like sometimes you're kind

497
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 3: of like this is just like automatic or not sure

498
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: what I was out of you, And the other times

499
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 3: you're kind of like, whoa, you know, I'm really in

500
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 3: a zone or I'm doing something different.

501
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: But I find that like even when you are in

502
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Speaker 1: a zone. Personally, for me, even when I am in

503
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: a zone, then I have a 're like, oh my god,

504
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the zone.

505
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like there's something it's never like fully just

506
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 5: like I am a character, I am Marcia.

507
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't get that either.

508
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 2: Especially Yeah, I'm like, it's so funny. It's it's ten am,

509
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: by the ways, And I'm like I feel that mostly

510
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 2: when I'm bottoming, I'm really like I'm doing it. Like

511
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: it's never like I'm crazy, this is so normal. I'm like, whoa,

512
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: can I believe it?

513
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: Whereas guess what I feel that way when I'm toping.

514
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: WHOA, I'm like, what the hell? I feel that way

515
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: when I'm talking.

516
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like when am I straight?

517
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Literally, it's like, what is going like, what happens.

518
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 1: After this? I'm never doing this again exactly.

519
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: It's funny. Wait, why do we start talking about something out?

520
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: I've got which one is the top and which one

521
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: is the bottom?

522
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: I feel like Paul would like funk and then he

523
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: would cry.

524
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul has a deep well of uh. I don't

525
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: want to say dark, it's not darkness, well of emotion.

526
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: And actually, I think the trope of the handshake is

527
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: very important here because it's like he keeps it all

528
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: bottled up, and when he even allows himself to let go,

529
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: it's still a handshake exactly. It's not a hug, it's

530
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: not like an embrace.

531
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: He needs to he needs to bottom.

532
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 3: He needs to bottom, and then when he does, it's like,

533
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: you know, really kind of loud, moaning, kind of open mouth.

534
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 3: Got her.

535
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: This is Orna giving Paul Hollywood advice. Okay, I'm going

536
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: to give you some homework. I want you to go home,

537
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: and I want you to bottom.

538
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 3: And don't there's things up until bottoming, but play that

539
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: you can do.

540
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you. I'm going to send you some books. Yes,

541
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I love when she sends books too.

542
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 2: And I've always impressed them. I actually read them. Yeah,

543
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: I think they're lying. You think they're lying.

544
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Oh I don't know.

545
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 2: Well you really only need to read one chapter and

546
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: you're like.

547
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: I get it. I got I mean most books, by

548
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: the way, they repeat themselves.

549
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's what's.

550
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 3: In this genre, especially where it's like they're like just

551
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 3: the same thing over and over and over again. It's

552
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 3: like you read one chapter, you're like, yes, I.

553
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: Got it, read the back cover, maybe listening to an

554
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: interview with the author, you're set. That's really I'm sorry,

555
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: But like I do feel crazy about this in particular

556
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: because it is such a huge market these books. Yeah,

557
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: and like I have in the past, I would say

558
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: once a year, I like Toccum and I'm like, I'm

559
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: going to read you know, the one that's like, uh,

560
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: good habits or whatever, you know, yeah, yeah, and then

561
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: but it's but it's just like, how are people going

562
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: back over and over?

563
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: To be fair? This is also kind of how I

564
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: felt about normal people.

565
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: The Sally Rooney.

566
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it happens in fiction as well. I

567
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, Okay, I get it.

568
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: Normal people.

569
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 2: I think the more distance I am from it. I'm like,

570
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: I don't think I liked it.

571
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 3: What the hell I didn't. I haven't read any salary

572
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 3: at all.

573
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: It was just sort of like okay, Like I was like,

574
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 2: they're fucking, They're not fucking, they're fucking.

575
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: You know what either, I think you. I really think

576
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: you like genre more. No, that's not a bad thing.

577
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 3: I've always said that because that's what.

578
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: You keep returning to, and I'm just the polar opposite.

579
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: I get so stressed out when there's a world I

580
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: have to keep track of and when there are family trees.

581
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: But you, like you can really like dig into an

582
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: ursula Kaylea, Gwen your favor well of course, yeah yeah,

583
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: And to me that stresses me out, whereas I want

584
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: just two characters bear set in and it's like they're

585
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: divorce hearing.

586
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting.

587
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: What are you?

588
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: I think I'm actually more like Sam. I like genre interesting.

589
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 3: But that's also I think that comes from like playing

590
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: video games, which is which I don't which I do?

591
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

592
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know either, But I'm not like both.

593
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: I don't want to just side.

594
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah your verse and first, Yeah, I love a quiet

595
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: film about a woman.

596
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: No, I'm not accusing you of not like you about

597
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: a woman.

598
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: I am. I never liked that. I'm on trial. Yeah.

599
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Should we get into our topic?

600
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh yes, well yes, Joe. What topic can be brought

601
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: for us today and what makes it straight?

602
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: So I was outside, I was in nature recently, and

603
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: can we talk about that? Yes we can.

604
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: The first shut up and wait, you've been in nature

605
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: for like the last nine months. But what's been going on.

606
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: I've just been going outside a lot where you're into

607
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: like a bunch.

608
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: Of I literally like thought you lived in the woods.

609
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: Okay, I know some people do. I'm okay with it.

610
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: Now.

611
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: I've been going to like like national parks and things

612
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: just for like, you know, I have time to and

613
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: you drive and I drive, yeah, and then I you know.

614
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm hitting a wall there.

615
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

616
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: And I'm in California a lot, so I go. There's

617
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: a billion national parks that I never went to as

618
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: a kid. So this whole year I've been like going

619
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: and then like making these little videos there. But uh yeah,

620
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: I it's so incredible. I love it.

621
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: Have you always been a naturista?

622
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: No, it hasn't until like been until this year. When

623
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 3: I was a kid, I never did anything like that

624
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: at all.

625
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: Do you camp or do you drive back?

626
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: We can't. I can't like stay like at some little

627
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 3: weze like me and my boyfriend by the way, which

628
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: is okay to have. But yeah, we like camp. We

629
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 3: do whatever we like, are stay at in airbnb, like

630
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: near the park or something. And yeah, it's been great.

631
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: I like love it a lot. It's incredible.

632
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Wow. I do think many people and I actually am

633
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: of desperate to get there too. Many people get like

634
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: nature pilled, I would say, like around our age, and

635
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: I think it's so it's one of the healthier ways

636
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: to age. Yeah, because I also I almost like the

637
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: alternative is like just like being more and more resentful

638
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: at the club, which I'm not in stigmatizing sigmatizing the

639
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: club of course we all, Yeah, I still want to,

640
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: but there is something where you have to find new

641
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: ways of existing in the world.

642
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree that.

643
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: The thing I wanted to confront you on on my

644
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: is like, so what's the deal with the woods?

645
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we can talk, we can dive deeper into

646
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: it later. But okay, I was in the woods and

647
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: I saw I've been seeing like these guys wearing these

648
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: were like gear in general that has like American flags,

649
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 3: but not like just an American flag, but American flag

650
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: that's like black, like the black American flags. Have you

651
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: seen this, Yes, exactly what you're talking about. It's like

652
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 3: as if the American flag itself is like too gay,

653
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like the red, white,

654
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: and blue is like too vibrant. Yeah, too flamboyant. So

655
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 3: it's like we're gonna really tone it down. And then

656
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 3: it's like you've created this like sith lord evil version

657
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: of this war. Like it's like if you put an

658
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: insignia that's like that scale of black in a movie,

659
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,479
Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh, that's the evil one yea, by

660
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: the way. And it's like they're obsessed with this version

661
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 3: of like the like of the flag of an insignia

662
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: that's like so dark and like like void. I don't

663
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: even know it's it's so strange.

664
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: It really is. I'm very familiar with this flag, and

665
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: when I see it, I am sort of like to me,

666
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: of course, it brings up a sadness. I'm like, God,

667
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: you are so talking about Paul Hollywood. You're so repressed,

668
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 2: you like have to like you were like basically you

669
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: go through your whole life just not wanting people to

670
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: call you gay. Yeah, and like and the bar keeps

671
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: getting higher and higher to not be gay.

672
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

673
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: And it's like just you don't have to dress like

674
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: you're off duty military.

675
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: I love the American flag is too gay, so they

676
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: have to hack out the color.

677
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: That is so funny, And that's what I think it is,

678
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: Like whoa tone it down, anyone? Don't want people to

679
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: get the wrong idea.

680
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 6: You know.

681
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: It's like I would even dike it further. It's like

682
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: it's like wearing camo that is especially right wing, where

683
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: you're like, well the green stuff is like what is

684
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: this essence dot com? Like like we need something a

685
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: little more manly, yeah, or even I think sometimes even

686
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean I realize I also have a shaved head,

687
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: but like people that like buzz their hair, it's like,

688
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: well if it grows out, I'm like a girl.

689
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, exactly right.

690
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: It's a confusing thing. I've never like, I don't have

691
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: any personal relationship with these types of men, like and

692
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: in a way that I'm like surprised there's not like

693
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 2: one cousin or one uncle. Yeah, this type like that

694
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: almost makes it scarier where I'm like, wait, so who

695
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: are you?

696
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: No, I completely agree, and I actually, knowing a little

697
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: bit about your family, his sho would venture to say,

698
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: you also don't.

699
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: Hmmm, I do oh. On my mom's side, I have

700
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: like West Point graduates, people who are like military interesting.

701
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: But okay, here's my question to me, west Point graduates,

702
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: there's a sort of like stoicckness there and it's like

703
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: real like like black American flag to me is almost

704
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: cosplay of west Point.

705
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: Idink, it is like West Point. I think like west

706
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 3: Point graduates are like they're not afraid of the red, white,

707
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: and blue, yeah exactly, whereas like other people, it's like

708
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: they're wearing the black American flag because it's like there's

709
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: something almost like their version of alt you know what

710
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like they have their all thing Wherey're like,

711
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: this is the one I'm gonna do, you know what

712
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like I don't even it's so strange.

713
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: It's subcultural.

714
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I really do feel like it's they're they're

715
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 3: so there is this like real avoidance of anything gay

716
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: to the point where it's like you are becoming a

717
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: nonverbal person, like a non verbal beast of a man,

718
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: like you can't even say like hi, my name is

719
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: that it.

720
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: Runs exclusively Yeah, oh man, I mean they're that type

721
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: of man. Is one they always have a girlfriend and and.

722
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: She's like, hey, I'm justica, Like Hi, I'm just normal,

723
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: and like I love gay men, like I'm having so

724
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: much fun.

725
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: And the guy literally will come to the bar with

726
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: the girlfriend and not speak. He'll be like time just gone,

727
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: like despite never having been in battle, like he has

728
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: PTSD from like being like a guy literally.

729
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: Literally Yeah, yeah, I am.

730
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: Also interested in this idea that all these things look

731
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: like villain. Yeah, yeah, there's some and I not to

732
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: take it into like an obvious direction, but like you know,

733
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: the thin blue line flag that like punish your logo,

734
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: all these things that are obviously like symbols of the

735
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 1: new right right, they are self consciously villain. Like you

736
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: can't look at the thin blue line flag and tell

737
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: me that doesn't look like a villain symbol from a movie.

738
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Like I understand that you might have other opinions, you know,

739
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: like in your world it's because you like have an

740
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: uncle that's a police officer or something. But when you

741
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: see that that looks like a villain symbol. Yeah, and

742
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: there's something about obviously the symbols of like the center

743
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: left are like quote unquote corny. It's like the pussy

744
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: had or like in this house, we believe how you believe. Yeah,

745
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: But at the very least it is you can tell

746
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: that these people want to in some way express positivity,

747
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: right or something, And you're like, what brings you to

748
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: a point where you're like, I'm on the villain side, yes,

749
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's that the villain side symbolizes strength. That's

750
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: why I do think that's.

751
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: A big part of it.

752
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: It is just about strength. But it's like such a

753
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 3: like such an obsession with strength that they like lose

754
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: track of the fact that they're like coming across as

755
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: like really scary. You know, like maybe they like they

756
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: like being scary. I don't know.

757
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: I think they it's complicated because they like being scary.

758
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: But then when you treat I think obviously they're gonna

759
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: get stares and people are gonna be like scared of them,

760
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: and then they take that as further proof of their stigma.

761
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: Like they're like, wait a minute, so I'm standing here

762
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: like an ent the club while my girlfriend is being

763
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: normal and no one is talking to me, and everyone

764
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: clearly thinks that we're.

765
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: Guess it's not okay to be a guy. Yeah.

766
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking about like like sort of new masculinity

767
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 2: versus like our parents and grandparents masculinity, because like it

768
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: is now like so much more intense. Like I'm even

769
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: thinking of like locker room culture, like our parents and

770
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: grandparents would like if they were men, they would be

771
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: naked in the locker room, but the black American flag

772
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: people are really like no one on earth except my

773
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: wife will see my penis.

774
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 3: Is that still true? Like I don't. I feel like

775
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: that was my experience. But then I'm like, is that

776
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: true everywhere?

777
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: People are showing their penises less they're yeah, I like

778
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: in locker rooms and locker rooms.

779
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I guess when I'm at

780
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: the gym, it's like that's what I see. But then

781
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: I'm also that my gym is maybe ninety percent gay men,

782
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: so it's like they'll just walk around naked, right out

783
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: into the gym floor and start the thing.

784
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: You know.

785
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: It's like, so I don't know, there's something kind of there,

786
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: well there now we're in.

787
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: The age where we're definitely self selecting and weird ways. Yes,

788
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 2: like we choose gyms where it's normal.

789
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I know I am a little bit like wait, what

790
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: do this strike is at my gym too?

791
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

792
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I feel like when I say, work at

793
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 2: the front desk.

794
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

795
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: When I used to go to the y, which is

796
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: like very like average guys the older it was like,

797
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: you know, the sixty plus would be naked and the

798
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: like forty below would not.

799
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: Well, there's also a way that like gay men get

800
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: naked at the gym versus like straight man, where's that

801
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 3: gay man get naked? And then they're like, let me

802
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: take a breather.

803
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: Let me just totally, let me just But the sixty

804
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 2: plus men do that too.

805
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: It's different for them where they're kind of like now

806
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 3: I'm gonna blow dry my ball, I'm gonna go over

807
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: like lather myself up totally. And then the straight guys

808
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: that got naked do it in this really almost like monastic,

809
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: like humble kind of like I have to do this, yeah,

810
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 3: and I will do it. I'm not afraid. But they're

811
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: gonna like shut They're gonna like go into a corner

812
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: like they're a dog that's about to like die or something,

813
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: and man like that naked.

814
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's really about knowing your angles. I really know.

815
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: It's like some locker room. Some men in the locker

816
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: room see being naked as a transitional face, and some

817
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 1: of them see it as like a chapter. Like it's

818
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: like this is it's like, oh god, this is a

819
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: split second when everyone can see my penis and I'm

820
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: putting my pants on. And then the other I saw

821
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: someone the other day literally put on a podcast on

822
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: speakerphone in front of the mirror, be fully naked and

823
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: was like putting on lotion on his entire body while

824
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 1: I call her Daddy was playing, Oh my god, something else.

825
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: Please listeners listen to our podcast.

826
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: You you need to try this out. H you know, wow,

827
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: that's something.

828
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: It was so incredible.

829
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean to me, it's you talk about like a

830
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: it's hard to be like we do have a bias,

831
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: and it's like not fair because part of me is like, well,

832
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 2: of course, I think I think, you know, nudity should

833
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: be so normal in America and like we need to

834
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: normalize it. And I'm like, well, but I'm biased.

835
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, though I still think it's like I agree with

836
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 3: the sentiment still though you know you should be it

837
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: should be okay to like take a shower, you know

838
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: though some people have a hard time with that. I

839
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: guess too, taking a shower. Shower, Yeah, you know, I'll

840
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: go to a bar something that people don't shower, oh

841
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: everywhere I go.

842
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: Okay, why is your opinion on that?

843
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: I think it's gone too far?

844
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: I agree, and I think it's actually it's actually difficult

845
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: to talk about because people will literally accuse you of

846
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: being a Republican.

847
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: For taking saying take a shower. Yeah, no, it's actually

848
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 3: Americans too many shower It's.

849
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it almost sounds like a dog whistle

850
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: where you're like a self hating gay guy because I

851
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: shower sometimes because you're like why does everyone smele or

852
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, the trope of being like Charlie, Yeah, Charlie concert,

853
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: I brought you a gift.

854
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do think it's a straw man argument, Like

855
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: I think it's like an invented villain.

856
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: This thinking gig guy. Yeah see, I know that this

857
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: is I do think this is the other like opinion.

858
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: And I understand where you're coming from, but I have

859
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: to say, for me, it's it's a real villain. Yeah,

860
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: it's the way people it's crazy.

861
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it is like maybe an exaggeration.

862
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: It's not. It doesn't happen all the time, but there

863
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 3: are some spaces where you're kind of like, whoa, this

864
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: is the culture here, you know, but.

865
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Like it's but sometimes also just like kind of hot

866
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,959
Speaker 2: and sweaty, like New York's like a hot and sweaty place.

867
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: I know that's true. And sometimes you have bio and

868
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: it's no one's fault, you know.

869
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: I do like that it's been destigmatized that when I

870
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: have BIO, I don't have to feel that exactly. But

871
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: then of course when I don't know other people do,

872
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm taking off taking out my black and Maria on

873
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: my hat exactly.

874
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think you should be able to

875
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 3: get naked in But then how do you like teach

876
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 3: that or like how do you like change it?

877
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Right?

878
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: It's really confusing because the reason that like the older

879
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 2: generations are comfortable with this because they were forced to

880
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: get naked in the sixth grade onwards. Yeah, and it's like.

881
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: Well and also they didn't think gay guys exist, and.

882
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 3: The gay guys existed, but they didn't think. Plenty of

883
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: things were gay that like are Like I was watching

884
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: Deliverance the other day, which great movie.

885
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: By the way, I've never seen it.

886
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 3: I hadn't seen it either, but then, like I remember,

887
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: like I heard so many people talking about it. I

888
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I'm just going to see it, and

889
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 3: like Burt Reynolds is like the masculine like lead of

890
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: that movie, and he is wearing a leather vest tight

891
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 3: on his body for the whole movie, and that's like

892
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: their version of this, Like it's like so gay, But.

893
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: It's funny to see the things that were like appropriated

894
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: by gay culture, but before they were like yeah, you know,

895
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 1: leather vests, for example, we're not invented by gay guys, right,

896
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: they're sort of like hearkening back to like sheriffs or whatever.

897
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: And he looks like a Tom of Finland. Yeah, exactly

898
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: the whole movie, you know. But then I guess that's

899
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: kind of where that comes from.

900
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

901
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, well I do know, But

902
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: also those cultures were so separate at the time that

903
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 6: there was no chance a gay guy was taking a shower,

904
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 6: like oh yeah, he rather than watching the movie with Reynolds,

905
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 6: a gay guy was cruising.

906
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: And a straight person was watching Burt Reynolds.

907
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: God, I see that's a good point.

908
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: No, it was really good.

909
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: That was awesome. One of the things we say this

910
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 1: all the time. One of the things that's different about

911
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: our era is that the borders are more porous between

912
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: straight and gay. So then then like you have straight

913
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: people knowing the word twink and being like and making

914
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: jokes about poppers.

915
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why straight men are so scared of being.

916
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: Yes, because they're like, it's everywhere.

917
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: It's it's like, it's yeah, one one misstep and I'm yes,

918
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: I know, and it has.

919
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: That has happened.

920
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,919
Speaker 1: It happened, Hollywood.

921
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: It's true. He's yeah, interesting it is.

922
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: I'm actually just now realizing that he is like such

923
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: a symbol of masculinity. And he's a baker.

924
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: I know, that's the thing.

925
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: That's well, not a baker, but he looks like an

926
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: old gig guy.

927
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 3: His one pier is like a granny exactly.

928
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: He looks like an old gig guy.

929
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: Is he over compensating, Yes, definitely, definitely.

930
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: Also, why is he wearing those skinny little pants? I

931
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: need him to get styled differently.

932
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: Everyone in that show looks insane. Paul Hollywood is wearing

933
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: those skinny pants with the like crazy plastic hair. Nol

934
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: is literally dressed as Liza Minelli like slim pants and

935
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: like the shirt. He's literally a hello crazy. Yeah.

936
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: But I just imagined Paul Hollywood coming out with like

937
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: a really thick, like elephant trunk baggy pants, like down

938
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 3: to the floor, Like can you imagine like a knit

939
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: top to be Like, I feel like skinny jeans are

940
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: also kind of becoming straight.

941
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh they're fully straight, like in a way where you're.

942
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: Kind of like you can see a guy with that

943
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 3: black American flag hat with like every vein in his

944
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: legs popping out through his jeans.

945
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: You know.

946
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like that is okay now, I don't know.

947
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of alpha culture to wear like really tight

948
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: type pants.

949
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. Ugh huh.

950
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: I can really lose myself in those like alpha VIDs,

951
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: like getting mad and being like this is fucking crazy.

952
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 3: It is.

953
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a trend I want to talk about.

954
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: It's only slightly related to what we were talking about.

955
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: What do you guys? Sometimes people I feel like it's

956
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: really cool now to like have an account where you

957
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: like find like annoying, bad cringey videos and post like

958
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: a bunch of them. Yes, yes, And it's like, but

959
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: then I find myself just being like watching the worst

960
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: stuff for like most of my social media use, and

961
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wish this trend would go away.

962
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 3: I know, I also am kind of like you're benefiting

963
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 3: from the Craney video. Yes, it's like maybe you want

964
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 3: to make that, you know what I mean. It's like

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 3: if you're so obsessed with posting that over and over again,

966
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: it's like you're posting it over and over.

967
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: It was like I would never ever see this if

968
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: you didn't post it right now, right and like a

969
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: lot of people would never ever see this if you

970
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 2: didn't post it right now.

971
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: I would go so far as to say, like the personality,

972
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: like my personality head, which is like I'm not like,

973
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm not on I'm not on TikTok, I don't seek

974
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: out the ors whatever. Because of that, the only ones

975
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: I do see are the worst ones, because those are

976
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: the ones that are shared by my like equally bitchy friends.

977
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: So then you're like, wait, how did I get it

978
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: to this point? It would actually be better for me

979
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: if I was just watching someone like do an analysis

980
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: of a scene in the substance yeah or whatever, then

981
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: just me watching like the most insane person in Arizona. Yeah,

982
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: like jump off a bridge exactly.

983
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is kind of like, I don't know why

985
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: I do get entertained by it, though I guess like

986
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 3: I do.

987
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: It's interesting, kind of a joker away to see like

988
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: how evil and dark people can really be.

989
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: There's one guy that has been all my various toxic

990
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: accounts have been pushing him to me, and he's probably

991
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: hugely famous, and I just don't know him because I'm

992
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: not on TikTok.

993
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: But he there's a certain kind of lisp that people

994
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: have that I call the nonprofit lisp. Oh my god,

995
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 4: you know, I know exactly what you're talking And then

996
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 4: he's like, Okay, so if you're let's say you're a

997
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: gay guy, you're attractive a woman. It does not have

998
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: to be like a whole identity crisis, Like women can

999
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 4: be attractive.

1000
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: You know, I know exactly who you're talking about.

1001
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: Guy, he's like, a I don't want to.

1002
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: He's literally like he's a gay influencer and By the way,

1003
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: this is my favorite with these things, Like I know

1004
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: that if someone watches let's say, a clip of us

1005
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: out of context, and there's no like recognition of like

1006
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: the fact that we're always half joking, the fact that

1007
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: we're also friends, the fact that we're like normally stand

1008
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: up comedians and this is like something we do for

1009
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: a fun like all this context. Okay, Without that, they

1010
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: would be like what the fuck is this? Right, And

1011
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: so I'm very aware of when I am doing that

1012
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: to someone else where I'm like, I don't know any

1013
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: of this context. I'm coming in and I'm immediately judging

1014
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: you and being like what has our world come to?

1015
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, But if they're presenting something as a stand alone

1016
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 3: who camera like being like, here's my opinion, like kind

1017
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 3: of I'm coming from on high to teach you all

1018
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: my followers about this thing, that's crazy.

1019
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: It's like we're not coming at it from like we're

1020
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: geniuses and we're like teaching you, right.

1021
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: It really is like hypnotizing in this way, like what

1022
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: has to happen for you to get to the point

1023
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: where you're like talking to people like this and yeah, actually,

1024
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: like and then you see the comments and it's literally

1025
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: people we know being like love this.

1026
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: Yes, well that's the scariest. And also you did a

1027
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: really good impression of him, and I was really impressive.

1028
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 3: That voice is like so right, I know you can see,

1029
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: I can see.

1030
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: But it's also a type of like I'm literally, I'm

1031
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: quite I'm I literally it's the nonprofit list someone doing

1032
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: a slightly condescending like uh, it's like people that call

1033
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: themselves educators but are not teachers, do you know what

1034
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean? It's like someone's bio is like activist educator,

1035
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: You're like, name one person you've.

1036
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: Educated, educated, who have you educated? A list?

1037
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: Literally, Like it's just such a specific thing and it's

1038
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: just so difficult to get mad about because ultimately it's

1039
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: easy to argue that that person is putting out positivity

1040
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: into the right, you know what I mean? Like, what

1041
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: am I going to do? Be mad that someone is like,

1042
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: but I do talking about destigmatizing.

1043
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: I think it's really easy for me to get mad

1044
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: at it actually obviously say I'm yelling.

1045
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: The thing that's so funny is I don't know if

1046
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: I've ever seen this person or like I guess I'm.

1047
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: But I do, I totally and that well, we'll try

1048
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: to after but you cane that.

1049
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: You're talking about me, You're show me my own Instagram,

1050
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: and I'm like yeah.

1051
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Like when there's this guy who's like always in the woods,

1052
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: like there's know what I'm talking.

1053
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: About, Like, yeah, I'm curious. Though, I feel like it

1054
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 3: is kind of like the same thing as like seeing

1055
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: like the self help trope black videos, that thing Like

1056
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: there's this guy therapy Jeff who I really have a

1057
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: problem with him on TikTok and I don't mean to

1058
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: be specific about names, but I feel like after thirty minutes,

1059
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 3: it's kind of like you can say what you want,

1060
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Yeah, totally, but I find

1061
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: him to be have you seen his videos, It's very

1062
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: kind of like here are ten questions you need to

1063
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: ask on a first gate and he is straight, he

1064
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: acts so gay. And there's another guy found on TikTok

1065
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 3: who is gay who just is like the gayer than

1066
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 3: me presenting. Wow, he is straight, And it's like almost

1067
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: like when you see someone who has like a serious

1068
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 3: illness disability, you know, it's like that is so hard.

1069
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: That is so hard.

1070
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Being gay seeming is a disability when you're straight yes,

1071
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: when you're straight, one of the worst ones you can have.

1072
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: In so many ways. It's kind of like it's the

1073
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 3: same way where something bad happens, something bad happen, it's bad, yeah,

1074
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: and then it can become a blessing. You come to

1075
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 3: terms of the overtime in the same way that we

1076
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 3: came to terms of being gay. When it straight guy

1077
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: acts gay, he can come to terms with it and

1078
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: find the most beautiful reality in that, you know what

1079
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean, Like find a girl who's like she loves

1080
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: gay guys literally, but I'm still a gay guy. You know,

1081
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 3: that's awesome and they can be happy.

1082
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: I feel I My TikTok enemy is this guy who

1083
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: has seemingly a podcast where he just speaks straight to

1084
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: camera and it's it's about music, and he's like thinks

1085
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: he invented like the idea of music criticism. Like he'll

1086
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: be like, okay, but the thing about trust Sapple.

1087
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: Is it's about trauma.

1088
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: I can't do that and it like makes me so

1089
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: And he's like, no one is doing pop music like this,

1090
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: like are you hearing this? And it's like it like

1091
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: we really, for for people's own sake, we need gatekeepers

1092
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: like to protect you.

1093
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes, I'm like, the reason why I don't want I'm

1094
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: happy that our podcast is about nothing is because, like

1095
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: I think we're it's a social good that we are

1096
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: not offering more film criticism, like social like it's just

1097
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: there is too much commentary. I realized this is highly hypocritical.

1098
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: Obviously we do do that, but like, like there is

1099
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: something about like how do I how do I exactly

1100
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: how do I like make the fewest points possible because

1101
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: there are enough points? Like there are It's it can't

1102
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 1: be like one movie comes out and then literally twenty

1103
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people release podcasts.

1104
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet people enjoy people love it. Oh they

1105
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 3: got it crazy for it, which, hey, whatever films about

1106
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: what some films do too, Yeah, that's true.

1107
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: Is it bad to shit talk?

1108
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like it distasteful.

1109
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. I was thinking about this recently because

1110
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: I made like a Reddit comment recently, which, by the way,

1111
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 3: I do that sometimes.

1112
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a black American flag beavier.

1113
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 3: I know really about a former boss of mine who's

1114
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: like this restaurant guy, and I said, like he's actually

1115
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: somebody said, like he seems like such a good guy,

1116
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: and I said, he's not. He's a bad guy. And

1117
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: then I was like, am I going to get sued?

1118
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: I was about a Reddit comment, but then like I

1119
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: kind of like blew up because people were like, whoa,

1120
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: really he's a bad And then like I'm not going

1121
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: to do anything else aside from that, but I just

1122
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: needed to like get that out, you know. But then

1123
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, is that bad? Like could I get in

1124
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: trouble for like you not an opinion?

1125
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: No, But I do think this is something I struggle

1126
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: with too, is like sometimes you just want to like

1127
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: give a little inkling of gossip online, like this is fun,

1128
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: we're all gabbing, but it's actually because of the way

1129
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: the infrastructure of the Internet works, that's not possible.

1130
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: Right.

1131
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: You'll start getting like literally thousands of comments, DMS likes,

1132
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: people being like this I guess are toxic totally canceled,

1133
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: or then someone being like quote treating and being like

1134
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: he's been abused, please donate, Like.

1135
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm feeling the shame.

1136
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: No, don't feel shame.

1137
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: So there's a difference between like shit talking and then

1138
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 3: also having like a valid criticism. Sure kind of like

1139
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 3: that was bad, Yeah, Okay, all of the shit talking

1140
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: you do now has to be from a bandage point

1141
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: of being, like I'm in the right, like I'm moral here,

1142
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know.

1143
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: There is something you know, It's very true. I go

1144
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: back and forth toe thinking, like thinking that like shitting

1145
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 1: out bad content into the world is like actually a

1146
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: morally bad thing, or thinking like no, it's my fault

1147
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: that I'm even like just ignore it. Yeah, you know

1148
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I it's yeah, I don't know

1149
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: what the solution is.

1150
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 3: There, you mean, like be it feeling bad about being

1151
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: negative or.

1152
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, as in like is putting, is

1153
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: doing like is doing a video like this the bad thing?

1154
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: Right?

1155
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: Or is it just that like I need to completely

1156
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: reorganize my life so that I don't come into contact

1157
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: with things like that. And what I'm actually responding to

1158
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: is my own self hatred that I am in a

1159
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: place where that is what I am con shimming rather

1160
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: than reading a book, and so then I'm like mad

1161
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: at that person rather than just mad at myself for

1162
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: guess what, being on Instagram?

1163
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's like the deeper analysis,

1164
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: but sometimes you don't have the energy. Sometimes it's just like, yeah,

1165
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: I fucking hate this guy exactly, you know, and then

1166
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 3: move on, which I think is like fine too. Yeah,

1167
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: you can't be like mother Teresa, who was bad by

1168
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: the way, speak on it. Yeah she was.

1169
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: She was, Yeah, and she's about to sue your ass.

1170
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: People will be like, wait, what did you do? Like

1171
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: she created a toxic workplace.

1172
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: She had a really toxic attitude in her workplace.

1173
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't there some book about her?

1174
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 3: That was?

1175
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 1: The argument was like she always wanted to be a saint,

1176
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: Like she was like the first influencer. She like her

1177
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: goal was to be a saint, so she like did

1178
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: everything in order to be a She ate that she

1179
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: ate and guess what she succeeded. Imagine your name becoming

1180
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: synonymous with like being a good person.

1181
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: That's amazing. And then I mean it's kind of Ellen Vimes.

1182
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was the Ellen of that time.

1183
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: She was. She was like unapologetic. You know. I do

1184
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: think there's something like funny about when somebody's like so

1185
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: ambitious towards something, it kind of like removes a little

1186
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: bit of credit to them in my opinion. Of course,

1187
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: I mean, of course you can't aim to be a saint.

1188
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: It like should come naturally.

1189
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it has to write.

1190
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're like a saint, but you're like a

1191
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: tryhard saint, it's like you're embarrassed.

1192
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: Thats why I feel about Taylor Swift. Honestly, well, don't

1193
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: even get us started started. I know, well I do,

1194
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 3: but yeah, anyway.

1195
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: Do you know who Taylor Swift loves? Probably that guy

1196
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 1: who does videos speaking in that voice.

1197
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: And she's like, this was she shares this was really educational.

1198
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1199
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: Literally, she sends it to her one bisexual friend and

1200
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: she's like, so is this it thinking of you? Yeah,

1201
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: thinking of you, queen, And it's st Him.

1202
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: ST's likes st Heim bisexual I have she's the most coded. Yeah,

1203
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: but actually no, because do you remember when we we

1204
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: have a long history with the him sisters. Do you

1205
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: remember when we saw him Sti's whole stand up act.

1206
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: She does a full on stand up act in the

1207
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: middle of the show. Was like about guys in this

1208
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: very like cheek a brunchway. Yeah, Whereas I actually sort

1209
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: of think Danielle, well, no, Danielle, who's the most bisexual? Home?

1210
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't maybe no, maybe Sti is the most bisexual.

1211
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Who do you think? Yeah, it's st okay.

1212
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 3: Okay, right, No, I think all of them have a

1213
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 3: little bit of it, you know, course in different ways. Yeah,

1214
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: surprise stand up is really something else too. Yeah, when

1215
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 3: you're surprised.

1216
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: By yeah, and it all leads to you know, they

1217
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: have that song three a M. So she's like talking

1218
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: about like this guy that she like was seeing and

1219
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: then she sent a text message but it autocorrected to

1220
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: something different and blah blah blah, and then it like.

1221
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm watching stand up.

1222
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah really yeah.

1223
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: By the way, we can cut this, but are you

1224
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: ready to comment on your flop prediction for the Charlie

1225
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Remicks album.

1226
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm ready to comment.

1227
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: This was a patren only thing, so many people will here.

1228
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: So I'm actually loving I'm addicted to this episode and

1229
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: so what I'm hopping around.

1230
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 1: Ye no, I'm this is like perfect. I finally feel

1231
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: safe And George, thank.

1232
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 2: You for calling me in for this thing. Because so

1233
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: I went out to dinner in Los Angeles, California, maybe

1234
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 2: a month or two ago, and I this it was

1235
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: a real who's who and in fact, guess who comes

1236
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: to my table? Well, no other than Danielle him. She says, hi,

1237
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: oh my god, Hi, Hey, I'm Danielle. We're sort of

1238
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 2: we're all chatting. Oh, great to see you, yeah, blah

1239
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: blah blah. Yeah, I'm looking for whatever.

1240
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 3: She leaves.

1241
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: Then the person that turends with her is like, hey,

1242
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: guess what, Like the I'm Girls are going to be

1243
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 2: on the Charlie remix album for I think about it

1244
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: all the time. And I was like, oh my god,

1245
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 2: I love La. I'm learning all this juicy gossip and

1246
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: I run, run, run to George and and they're like,

1247
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 2: don't tell a soul, of course, and we and then

1248
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: we go on Patreon. Of course, well this takes.

1249
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: Subscribers. Yes, so there's a pain.

1250
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 3: Say that.

1251
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: Yes, And so we like heavily hinted that the Heim

1252
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 2: Girls were going to be on the I think about

1253
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 2: all the time. Now Charlie is has released thee by

1254
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: the time this episode comes out, the remix.

1255
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: Album remix album, but right now everyone and their mother.

1256
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 3: Is on it.

1257
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: The track list that has all the guests on it,

1258
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 2: and him is nowhere.

1259
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: That's what I thought to say, and is featured on

1260
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: that remix? Do we know?

1261
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: I would have to look it up. I would have

1262
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: to look it up.

1263
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 3: It's like a bunch of people are kind of like, yeah,

1264
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 3: that makes sense, and then like one like Nelly Furtado or.

1265
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: Something, it's like Bruce brings Yeah exactly.

1266
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 3: It's like all right, bunching out. You know, I don't know, Oh.

1267
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: My god, what if it's not on there and that'll

1268
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:44,280
Speaker 1: be the surprise.

1269
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 2: They don't have it on there. I don't see it.

1270
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: Whoa, so maybe than you? Thank you?

1271
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: Okay, it's bonyver Wow to try to get it hime

1272
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: and get well.

1273
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know.

1274
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I guess I appreciate both bony Wow.

1275
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm wondering is like, did she have like

1276
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: was it like audition?

1277
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: She was like first one to show she made time

1278
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: and Buddy Bear audition.

1279
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, fact made the best track win.

1280
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: I have one headshot in front.

1281
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: And it's literally body, it's like gross beard.

1282
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: So this was like, fuck you guys, Like, this is

1283
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: my first time spreading real misinformation.

1284
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: I love it.

1285
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 3: It's good to do that.

1286
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: It hurt, It did hurt, but.

1287
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: Well, I spread misinformation on our podcast when I heard

1288
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: through what I thought was a really credible source that

1289
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan were getting divorced. Oh and I was

1290
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: like and literally this person was like, this is happening

1291
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: in the next six months, and then people called me

1292
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: out because it's now been over a year.

1293
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know what gossip I am spreading like wildfire?

1294
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: Is that Barack Obama and.

1295
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: Jennifer Yeah, well yes, we've all been spreading that, But

1296
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: did you see her on.

1297
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: I started spreading it in about January. Really, I started early,

1298
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: and I want to.

1299
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: Say I've been on the ground floor with this as well.

1300
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: This was I learned about it in the summer. I

1301
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: remember it was. I would want to say June like,

1302
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: I think June.

1303
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: Yah, Yeah. I was kind of stunned. But then I

1304
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 3: don't know if is it real?

1305
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: You think so well, she's denying it.

1306
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: She is denying it. I would say, my heart tells

1307
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: me it's real.

1308
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: I think it's real. When more than two gay guys

1309
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: say it becomes real and not just guys.

1310
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: I've heard some straight girls.

1311
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 3: My straight sister in law told yes, she has her

1312
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: finger on the pot.

1313
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: That is a classic piece of gossip that it's women

1314
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: who have been told by gay guys telling people.

1315
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Speaker 3: She just knows everything too. I'm kind of like a

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Speaker 3: huge yeah, aren't you. Yeah. Anyway, we'll ask her Paul

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Speaker 3: Hollywood's bye. Yeah, well having an affair with Barack Obama exactly?

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: Do you want to do a final.

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00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: Seg I think we have to. This has been so fun.

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Speaker 2: I know, I almost want to like put a button

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Speaker 2: on the black American flag thing we move?

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: Oh sure, any final thoughts on black American flags?

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00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 3: I think that the next I think that there's like

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: a next stage of development when people are kind of

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: like the design is too gay too, and it's gonna

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Speaker 3: turn into something even more like fister and sinister, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is all right here?

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00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: All right, I will say anything with a star is

1329
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: at risk of seeming exactly because.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it has the stars. It's just it's

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: just the stripes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm right, so okay, I'm gonna talk this

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Speaker 1: in real time. So the impulse to get more and

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Speaker 1: more minimal is like a straight Okay, it's like black

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00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: American flags, straight guy. Anything ornamental is gay, but then

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00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: it's also cool gay graphic designer. The ultimate logo is

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00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: one dot.

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

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00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: And so then I'm like, wait, is that sort of

1340
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: a horseshoe theory thing, where like minimal graphic design on

1341
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: one hand, that's truly like Williamsburg gay guy, you know,

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00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: Marnie or it's a lot of pants whatever on the

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01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: one hand, and then like black American flag in cel

1344
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: adjacent but has a girlfriend right wow, gun carrying on

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01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: the other side, Like is it that actually having being

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01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: too ornamental is like centrist? Yeah, whoa, that's like what

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01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: most people want, so you have to react to that

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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: in some way.

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: It's just like a difference of font Yes, yeah, exactly.

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01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: Hmmm, well that's scary.

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01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: That is scary. It's going to become it's going to

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: become something that like gets too minimal, and then they're

1353
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 3: going to be shocked by themselves and go back to

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: the original. Yes, yes, yeah, I think. I hope so,

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Speaker 3: I hope so.

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: I want them to live out loud.

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: They need to be.

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01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 2: It's literally it's like a metaphor for their personality. It's

1359
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: just like so muted and quiet. Yes, it's like wake.

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Speaker 3: Up, wake up exactly. Yeah.

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01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that that satisfied my craving an ending too.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 3: I feel complete.

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01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Can you please introduce the final segment while I try

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01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: to think of one.

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you think I have one, you're dead gone.

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 1: Okay, then, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Our final segment is called shout outs segment. We pay

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: homage to the grand oral straight tradition of the radio

1369
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: shout out. We shout out anything that we enjoy. Imagine

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01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: that two one you're shouting out to a squad back home,

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01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: but about anything that you enjoy at all on Earth.

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: People place those things ideas.

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I can, I can do one. Okay, what's up, listeners.

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Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to having sushi

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01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: for lunch samini this week with our dear friend, my

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: new friend Martine, who just did a previous episode. After

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: the episode, it was one pm in midtown, we went

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01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: to Sugarfish and add a lunch omakase. Now to me, sushi, listen,

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: Sushi is expensive, Sushi is fancy. It's something I'm not

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01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: going to have every day of my life, and when

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: I do, it feels so momentous that it should be

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01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: a dinner. Guess what, It's a light lunch. It is

1383
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: the perfect level of nutrition whimsy. It's actually a great

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: food that doesn't necessarily need to be paired with wine

1385
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: or alcohol. Any short like to have it with a

1386
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: beautiful cup of green tea. Is axidual heaven. Yeah, you

1387
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: don't feel too full after even after a full omakasa.

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01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: We're talking, you know, seven courses essentially. Yeah, I'm saying

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01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: sushi is lunch in twenty twenty five, girls, we're having

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01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: sushi for lunch and sugarfish by the way, which is

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01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: so like pussy hat like stuck in twenty sixteen, and

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01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: yet so good it is.

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01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,959
Speaker 2: I mean it was so good. I mean I literally

1394
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 2: felt like a supermodel that day. Yeah, I was like,

1395
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 2: look at us.

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01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 3: So Sugarfish in New York is very kind of like

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Speaker 3: la No.

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01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 1: It is like it's quote unquote an embarrassing place to

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 1: go to, but then when you go, it's amazing.

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01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 3: It's amazing, like so many things.

1401
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't say so many things.

1402
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up freaks, losers and perverts around the globe?

1403
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: I want to give a huge shout out too, sort of. Okay,

1404
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 2: this is a two parter caution to the wind. Sleep wise,

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, when it's five PM and you're like, I'm

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 2: a little tired, I want a coffee, get it, and

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01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm and i'd say, and you know, you're like, well,

1408
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: will I be able to sleep later? It's like, I

1409
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe you won't be able to sleep without

1410
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: the coffee. Get the damn coffee and jo the next

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: three hours. Similarly, when you take a nap around that time,

1412
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: of course it's a danger, but sometimes you just want

1413
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: it and it's it's time to just give yourself the

1414
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 2: pleasure of a nap. And my favorite thing is the

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: combination to have an ice coffee. It doesn't hit hard enough.

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: You take a nap anyway, Oh my god, you wake

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01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 2: up at six pm and you feel ready to take

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01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 2: on the world. There is no better feeling than an

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: ice coffee and a nap at five pm, and I

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: think you should all experience it.

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01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 3: So say, wow, damn, that's good.

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01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: I've been having naps that are like not an option,

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 2: they're not optional naps, Like it's like you need it, like.

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01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 1: You have been waking up at six am.

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,959
Speaker 3: Oh it's crazy. Yeah.

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01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm also like, well, I'm self diagnosed as narcaleptic, really

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01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: self diagnosed because something take naps because I get so tired,

1428
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: Like I get so tired where I can't operate like

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01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: a car right now, Like I have to lay down

1430
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: or I will do something bad.

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01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dangerous. Huh hmm, Okay, yeah, I'm ready you guys, listeners,

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Speaker 3: listen up. I am giving a big, big shout out

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01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 3: tonight to Seltzer as a treat at the end of

1434
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: the day. Wow, a decadent seltzer. I'm talking maybe four

1435
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 3: dollars a can. Wow, the kind of seltzer that's like

1436
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: a stand alone Seltzer that you buy some bizarre flavor

1437
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 3: like u Zoo something like that, where it's kind of like,

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: this is going to be my decod en treat and

1439
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: it's not even it's zero calorie, does have any sugar,

1440
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 3: it's nothing. I think this is the most decadent special

1441
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: treat you can give yourself because it's not it's not

1442
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: even like alcoholic. It's not even like gonna make you

1443
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: feel anything. It's just water at the end of the day.

1444
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: But it's so kind of like superfluously like flavored and

1445
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: extra and then pour that over a little ice, put

1446
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: a straw in it. Suddenly it becomes this thing like

1447
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: so much more than itself. And that can be like

1448
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: such a private special. It's almost like masturbating. Yeah, it's exactly.

1449
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: And there's so when something's really bubbly, really really really carbonated.

1450
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: It's colder, you know, it tastes different. It becomes my addiction.

1451
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 3: It's like a drug. It's like a drug.

1452
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 2: It's like masturbating a drug.

1453
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 3: God better, I couldn't set up out myself.

1454
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, whoop.

1455
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 1: The word use you hate?

1456
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 3: Such a picture.

1457
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: That's exactly what the flavor needs to do.

1458
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, even like walking into like a little bodega

1459
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: and like the fancy section and being like which one

1460
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: will I get? Like, what a great feeling.

1461
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 3: I feel like, am I five years old for wanting

1462
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 3: a soda? No, I'm in my thirties and I am

1463
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: capable of drinking this and I will buy it and

1464
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: I can afford it. Yes, And it's just like this

1465
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 3: powerful moment of like I'm in charge of my life.

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, Wow, that was amazing.

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: Thank you beautiful.

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01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, this has been a gorgeous episode. And I want

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: to say on the record, guess what we didn't run

1470
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 2: our stuff to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Not only did we not run out as I actually

1472
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: am like annoyed. We can't keep talking about approximately four

1473
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: of the things we run like. It's I also, you know, Joe,

1474
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't see you that much anymore.

1475
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: And I did your show the other week and it

1476
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: was so nice, and now we had this slowly conversation.

1477
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is nice.

1478
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 3: I know either it's nice. Let's do another hour.

1479
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well I have no idea what our next

1480
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 2: guests will be arriving, but you gotta hope you will.

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01:06:58,080 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: She will.

1482
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: She's known for being punctual.

1483
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh really no, okay, well, bye bye bye podcast and

1484
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:09,560
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1485
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,080
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