1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: This is Teddy Teapot. Hi guys, welcome back to this 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: week's Teddy Teapod. You guys asked and we are delivering 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: the number one topic you guys wanted me to discuss 4 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: was eating disorders. So it's a sensitive topic, but it's 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: also something I truly believe talking about helps you continue 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: to heal and working on UM I had. I never 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: really had a great relationship with food until after my 8 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: son was born. So that's about five years ago. Um, 9 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: not about five years. I know how old my son is, guys, 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: he's five and a half. So that's how many years ago. 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: That's when all in by Teddy was formed. But leading 12 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: back to even when I was a child, I started 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: riding horses from a very young age. And I remember 14 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: when I was about ten years old. UM, somebody said 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: to me, oh, you should you need to switch your underwear. 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: You need to wear a thong because you can see 17 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: your underwear line through your riding pants. For those of 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: you don't know, if you compete UM as an equestrian, 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: you are wearing skin tight beige pants. And that's when 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: I started becoming aware of my body, UM in a 21 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: way that wasn't just like a regular kid, in my opinion, 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: and I started realizing that food was something I wanted 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: to control. And I noticed that my sister and I 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: were developing differently, Like I would just start to gain 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of weight, and my sister was always 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: tiny and she could kind of eat whatever, and you know, 27 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: I just that wasn't the case for me. And I 28 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: just remember being aware of it so much younger than 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: I would have thought that it would happen. So around 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the age of play seventh or eighth grade is when 31 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: I started creating an unhealthy relationship with food. And it 32 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: became something where I will eat enough to get by, 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: but I'm not feeding myself the proper nutrition to do 34 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: it well. So I would be at a horse show 35 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: all day long and have something like two diet dr 36 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: peppers and to string cheese and maybe an apple, and 37 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: I was like, that's good, good enough, and I'm winning 38 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: so awesome, and people are noticing that I look different 39 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: and this is a win win, and it became sort 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: of this evil like reward slash. I started feeling like 41 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: pride and when people would say to me, you're doing okay, 42 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: like you look all right, you know. As I got older, 43 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: and then it became something that I couldn't keep up with. 44 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: So there would be years where I would really limit 45 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: my food and then I kind of be like, I'm 46 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: sick of this, and then I would go the other direction. 47 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: And that was kind of my entire high school life. 48 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: And it really became around you know, how can I 49 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: hide it, or who are my friends that I can 50 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: kind of talk to about this and we can all 51 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: do it together, and it just it became an obsession. 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't to the point where I 53 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: was hospitalized or anything like that. It was just to 54 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the point that it consumed a large part of my thinking. 55 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: And I started revolving my good days around how little 56 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I could eat, and if I still one in the 57 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: competition that day, then it was a good day. Or 58 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: if I felt too weak and I made a mistake, 59 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: then it was a bad day and I needed to start. 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: I started calculating my every move. So that was kind 61 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: of my youth. And then I at seventeen, I had 62 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: won a big national and had kind of my my 63 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: best year yet riding horses, and I had gotten a 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: college scholarship to go riding, and I told my parents, 65 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done. I don't want to ride anymore. 66 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: I need a break. I don't want to live in 67 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Hilton Head. I want to branch out. I want to do, 68 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, do different things. Uh, you know, I'll still 69 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: go to college if you want, but I'm not going 70 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 1: under the riding scholarship. Well news flash, no colleges wanted 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: me if I wasn't going to ride horses. So I 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: didn't get into any of the colleges that I wanted 73 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: to go to. And so I was like, all right, well, 74 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to California. My parents said, great, you 75 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: can go. We'll help you move across the country, but 76 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: we're not supporting you once you get there. You need 77 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: to We're not financially supporting you. Once you get there. 78 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: We need you to go and um, you know, we'll 79 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: help you get a car out there and stuff like that, 80 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and but once you're on your feet, you need to 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: pay your own rent, that type of thing. And I 82 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: remember moving to Los Angeles seventeen and feeling so completely 83 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: lost and overwhelmed and not knowing anyone. I started in 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: the CIA mail room and everybody was like Harvard graduates 85 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: and blah blah, you know, when I was the seventeen 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: year old, and within the first year of moving to California, 87 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I gained over eighty pounds. And it was complete emotional eating. 88 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't binging, like I wasn't going and hiding it. 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: I just was constantly grazing, and I was constantly eating, 90 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: whether I was hungry or not. And then I would 91 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: go home at night and eat. And I remember um 92 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: coming to coming home for Thanksgiving and my parents not 93 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: really knowing what to say, just like, hey, you good, 94 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: and me being so angry, so angry that they could 95 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: even ask such a question, gen like what what you 96 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: don't like me? How I am? Take me or leave me? 97 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: And that's not what they were asking. I was putting 98 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: all of my own and securities and own you know what, 99 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I would self sabotaging behavior. I was putting it on them. 100 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't until years and years later 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: that I started really understanding what I was doing. So 102 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I was like that for you know, probably five years 103 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: and or eight years or whatever it was. And then 104 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: I um started riding horses again, and I went right 105 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: back to my old habits that I had as a kid, 106 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: as a you know, growing up I just started eating 107 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: very little, um, exercising a ton, riding horses a ton, 108 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: and the way it kind of came off. So once 109 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: again I was not having a healthy relationship with food 110 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: or my body image. But I was getting results and compliments. 111 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, you know what, this is great. 112 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: And I meet my husband and I remember on about 113 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: our third date, I took him on a like a 114 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: birthday dinner. And you know when you're at a birthday 115 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: dinner and there's like thirty people there, and a guy 116 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: sat kind of near us. And I had never mentioned 117 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: my past issues with food to my husband, and there 118 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: was a guy sitting there and I said, Hi, I'm 119 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: Teddy blah blah blah, and this is my friend Edwyn 120 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and he goes, Teddy, h I knew a Teddy that 121 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: worked at sea. She was a fat and I remember 122 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: just like my heart sinking and feeling like, oh my god. One, 123 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe he said that, And to what is 124 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: Edwin going to think? And three I've never told you know. 125 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: It was like this deep, dirty secret that I thought 126 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: I was having to hide. And I looked at Edwin. 127 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, now I no idee like and it just 128 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: became one of those things. I would go home for 129 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the holidays with Edwin and I would have my sister 130 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: hied photos of us because I didn't want him to know. Um, 131 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know. I think I was ashamed 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: that I was so out of control and felt so 133 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: lost and you know, these things were happening, and realizing 134 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: that either whether it's eating too little or eating way 135 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: too much, I really had no type of relationship with 136 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: myself or any honesty when it comes to how I'm 137 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: feeling and what I was actually doing to my body. 138 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: But these crazy fat diets or starvation diets are fasting 139 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: or overeating or becoming a pizza hut V. I p 140 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: sad that that's a thing. Um. But once I had 141 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: my kids, everything kind of shifted for me. So when 142 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to get pregnant with Slate, I had, 143 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, obviously put on a bunch of weight. Um, 144 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: but that was fine, that's you know, I was happy 145 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: to do it. That I wasn't eating the world's best 146 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: when I was pregnant with her, but I was, you know, 147 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: I had a relatively healthy pregnancy, and then I didn't 148 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: lose the weight after slate. And then when I got 149 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: pregnant with Cruz, I had so much trouble getting pregnant, 150 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: as you guys have have heard and as I've shared, 151 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: and I was on all these IVF and blood thinners 152 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: and all of these things and gained even more weight. 153 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: So the by the time that Cruz was born, and 154 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: you know, we were past like the first six months, 155 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: I realized, here I am in a place where I 156 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: have no idea how to teach my family, how to eat, 157 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: how to live because I didn't know how to do 158 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: it myself. I um, and that's the day I changed 159 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: my life. And I started learning and educating myself on 160 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: good things to fuel your body, on exercise and being 161 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: active but not working out, to pun yourself for the 162 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: things that you've eaten. And it became my life's mission 163 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: to do this. And being able to talk about this 164 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: is what's kept me healthy. Because when I wasn't able 165 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: to talk about it and it was everybody else's fault 166 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: or somebody was judging me or I was judging myself, 167 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through it. And you know, oftentimes people 168 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: talk about and needing disorder and they're like, oh, you know, 169 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: you just move right on from it. You know, I 170 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: I had treatment and then I was better. It's not 171 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: it's something it's an ongoing battle that is forever within you. 172 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: But if you're open with yourself, if you're open with others, 173 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: then you can grow and you can change, and you 174 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: can start to find the positives, and you can start 175 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: to find the good things about food, the nutritious things 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: that you could be eating, the things that really feel 177 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: your body, the different color food, how to prep your kitchen, 178 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: how to prep yourself for success. And yeah, so that's 179 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: really why I'm so passionate about this because it's something 180 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: that you know, until my son was born, I never 181 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I never had a handle on And you know what, 182 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I still won't say I have a hucent handle on 183 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: it because it's something that I work at every single day. 184 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: So I'm super excited. Today we have guests from all 185 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: over the spectrum. We have Jessica Clark, who's been open 186 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: about bening and purging. We have Jackie gold Schneider, she's 187 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: on Real Housewives of New Jersey, who has been open 188 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: with her battle with anorexia. And then we also have 189 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: Christie Morrell, who's a nutritionist and registered dietitian. She is 190 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,479 Speaker 1: a sports dietitian at USC and for the l A Kings, 191 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. And um, we're gonna come 192 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: right back with Jessica Clark to share her story with us. Hi. 193 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Now we're on with Jessica Clark. How are you, Jessica, 194 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How are you? I'm good? Thank you. 195 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for coming on and sharing your story. 196 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I was just talking a little bit about mine and 197 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: I was saying, the biggest thing for me has been 198 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: being open and vulnerable and sharing and that's been the 199 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: one of the main factors and feeling healthy myself versus 200 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: when I was kind of hiding and in that place 201 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: in my life. And I was curious, if you'd be 202 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: open to kind of sharing your story with our listeners 203 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: and then we can kind of dig into some questions. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, 204 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: I totally agree with that. I think a lot of 205 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: the healing that I've experienced and a lot of kind 206 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: of seeing the purpose of my story has come from 207 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: sharing it. So I definitely agree with that. Um. So 208 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I in high school, I was a super competitive athlete. 209 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: I decided I wanted to run talking across country and 210 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: college and so, um, my junior and senior year, I 211 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: was on a super strict eating plan. I would literally 212 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: have nightmares before races about like eating a cookie or 213 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: having a brownie or something like that. I would wake 214 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: up sweating and crying, and um, it was really it 215 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: was weird, and I didn't realize it was weird because 216 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: I was surrounded by other athletes that kind of were 217 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Um, So that kind of started 218 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: this unhealthy relationship with food. And then once I got 219 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: to college and I was running track across country competitively. 220 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Um so I'm like, I'm five one, I'm a little human, 221 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: and I was running with girls that were five eight 222 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: and Paul and Lean and just were built very differently 223 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: from me. And so it kind of got to this 224 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: place where, um, it became like a real issue and 225 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: I would starve myself all day long so I would 226 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: look good in the spandex and the sports bras, and 227 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: running in the nighttime, I would just like it was 228 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: like an out of body almost of just like eating 229 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: anything in sight, and then I would purge and then 230 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: be ready for practice the next morning. And it became 231 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: the cycle, and slowly my body kind of started to 232 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: wear down, and I started to lose my hair. I 233 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: got diagnosed with osteoporosis when I was twenty years old, 234 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: which is like not normal, but I just didn't have 235 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: like any sort of bone density, like nothing. I kept 236 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: getting stress structures and getting hurt, and that UM made 237 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: me a horrible runner, which put more pressure on me. 238 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: And one morning I woke up and I looked in 239 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: the mirror and like my skin was dull, my hair 240 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: was gone, my body looked terrible because UM, when usually 241 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: when you have any eating disordered, disordered eating, it becomes 242 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: cyclical when you start to store, everything is back because 243 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: your body isn't bid or flight mode, and so I 244 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: had no muscle definition and it was just horrible. So UM, 245 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: that day I went and I quit track, and then UM, 246 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: I went and I dropped out of the Honors college 247 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: at my school. And then I drove home to my 248 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: parents house and I told them so from then on, 249 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of been I guess four years of UM. 250 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: I would say I was sick for four years like that, 251 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: and then four years of healing. And that's kind of 252 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: like the overview of my story. Jumping right out at me. 253 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: You said in high school you started on an eating plan. 254 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: Did you put yourself on this plan or did your coach? 255 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: And what was the plan? It was my coach and 256 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: um it I mean usually I feel like, especially for athletes, 257 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: these plans that you're on sound really good. So it 258 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: was kind of like no processed food, like eating clean. 259 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: I think that that I have quote I would say 260 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: that was quotes. But eating clean can become very extreme, 261 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's kind of been like a keyword I feel like, 262 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: especially nowadays that pops up. Um. So I think I 263 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: took it to an extreme. I think it could have 264 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: been good, but then I started to think that if 265 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I got off the plan that I was on, I 266 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't be as good as an athlete, And so I 267 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: was putting a lot of pressure and kind of idolizing 268 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: this idea of eating cleanly and took it to an 269 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: unhealthy level. At what point in your as you said, 270 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: in your sickness, did you realize that you were sick? 271 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: Um what's crazy is even when I was diagnosed by 272 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: a doctor with osteoporosis, I still did not think I 273 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: had a problem, and only I knew what I was 274 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: doing to my body, and I had people telling me like, 275 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: you don't look good, you look sick. And I still 276 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, No, this is what I need to be doing. 277 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: This is like how I'm going to be a good 278 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: athlete or I'm gonna look good or I'm gonna How 279 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: many years there the other girls? How many years into 280 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: this did you find out that you had asked to 281 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: your process? Four? Four? And how how did you go about? 282 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean I talked a little bit about with me. 283 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: I I would I would either I wasn't, I wouldn't binge. 284 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: I would eat as little as I could and see 285 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: what I could manage. When I was in high school, 286 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: you know, growing up because I rode um, I was 287 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: in a question and so I was always competing, and 288 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: so I started to learn the method of what I 289 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: could do and still perform. But mine never got to 290 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: that point because then I switched mine to them being 291 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: like a complete emotional eater and having this huge chip 292 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: on my shoulder when it came to anything, and food 293 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: was my answer to everything. Um, you said, you you 294 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: hit it for a while and at night you would 295 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: almost like black black out. M do you think you 296 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: were really hiding it? And what was kind of that 297 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: process for you? Yeah? I definitely think I was hiding 298 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: it because I would eat all my news alone. I 299 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't go out to eat. Um, I've lived with other girls, 300 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: but I would eat in my room and UM. Kind 301 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: of like after cloth or two during that day, I 302 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: would just go and I knew that what I was 303 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: doing wasn't healthy and I wouldn't feel good afterwards. But 304 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: it literally it was this experience of like I can't 305 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: stop myself. That's why I would say like blacking out 306 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: or out of body. It just it didn't feel like me. 307 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: It was like this whole other thing that you almost 308 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 1: can't control. I think a lot of it was stress 309 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: and pressure and um kind of when you get to 310 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: this place of putting so much pressure on yourself. I 311 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know if you felt this, but sometimes like your 312 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: food or your workout regiment, feels like the only thing 313 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: you can control when a lot of other things are 314 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: out of your control. And so I think that it 315 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: was almost like my striving to control something in my life, 316 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: right I Mine was similar. I think for me it 317 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: was about I wanted to be perfect, and I took 318 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: the negative and made that my positive. Like any time 319 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: somebody was like are you okay? You you lost a 320 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: bunch of weight, or this happened. I would almost double 321 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: down on the bad behavior, like I'm doing it right, Yes, okay. 322 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: This is what I tell a lot of people that 323 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: are like, I think my friend has an eating disorder. 324 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do or whatever. Never say 325 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: that they look good, and never say they look bad 326 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: because any common about their body is going to trigger 327 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: them to do something. Yeah, you're going to have some 328 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: that I lost weight. Yeah, I was like, oh, I'm 329 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: doing something right. Yeah. It becomes this obsession that takes 330 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: over everything else. And what would you say for our 331 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: listeners who don't know if they have an eating disorder? 332 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: What would you say, like a red flag is other 333 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: than you know, being diagnosed by a doctor, because a 334 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: lot of people aren't going to see a doctor because 335 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: they don't want to know. Or if your friend is yeah, 336 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: I think, um it is chicky, because um, you don't 337 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: want to say something is something it's not, and you 338 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: also don't want to ignore something that you're doing. So 339 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: I think they're eating disorders, and there's disordered eating and 340 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: you could read about it all day long, but I 341 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: would say the biggest thing to look for it is like, 342 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: does the idea of food stress you out? And are 343 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: you unwilling to eat with others? I think those are 344 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the two things that UM when I saw a therapist, 345 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: which is my other big thing is if you do 346 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: feel that way, always seek professional help. Don't like read. 347 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: I mean you can reach out to someone that you 348 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: think is an influencer or whatever, but always seek a 349 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: professional I think that's the biggest thing. I advice I 350 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: can give, UM, even if you're not sure, especially if 351 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: you're not sure, but if food stresses you out and 352 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: if you're scared to eat with others, I would just 353 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: take a step back and really look at why are 354 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: you eating and um, why does it stress you out? 355 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: And why can't you eat you with another person? UM. 356 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: A phrase that is stuck with me actually that has 357 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: been really helpful is I was watching an Anthony Bourdain episode, UM, 358 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: and he was in Greece in a woman UM that 359 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: was there said I want to walk away from a 360 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: meal and not tell you what I ate, but who 361 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: I ate with. And that's kind of changed. Like my 362 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: relationship with food and with meals is make it in 363 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: enjoyable experience for sure. That that's exactly Honestly, when you 364 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: just said that, I was like, Wow, that is something 365 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm always saying. I'm like, if you're going into the 366 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: holidays and you're revolving it solely around what you can 367 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 1: and can't eat, and it's not around about the people 368 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: you're spending it with or friends or family, then you're 369 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: focusing on the wrong things. Yes, And it can become 370 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: such an obsession. And I think it's hard because so 371 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: oftentimes we want to put it on, we want to 372 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: label it on something like I could say it's because 373 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: I were owed horses and I wanted to win, and 374 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: I looked best in beag skin tight pants if I 375 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: looked a certain way. But I'm really curious and what 376 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: the actual like is this something that starts with us 377 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: way before that And I don't know. And we're gonna 378 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: have a like a nutrition like a professional on that's 379 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: going to speak to us on that. But I think 380 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: oftentimes we hear about it with athletes and really strong 381 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: personalities because then they become more open about discussing it. 382 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: But so much of the time it's happening everywhere, and 383 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: and I don't think that friends, our parents know how 384 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: to talk to us about it, and I also feel 385 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: like I remember being on the other end of it, 386 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: and I had no patience for anybody's opinion. Yeah. When that, 387 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: whenever someone would like pull me aside and tell me 388 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: what they thought or how they thought I looked or 389 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: something like that, it made me angry. And so it's 390 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: almost like you has to come to a place of 391 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: realization on your own. And I think that what you 392 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: can bring that about is talking about it more, just 393 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: people that have gone through it, being more open about it, 394 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: because eventually there's going to be a girl that hears 395 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: you and they're like, I experienced that too, and that's 396 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: not healthy and I probably need to change. But it 397 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: has to I think it has to come from an 398 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: internal place, because whenever someone externally would approach me, I 399 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: would be like, this is so annoying, Like you don't 400 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: you don't understand why I'm doing this. I'm doing this 401 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: so I can run better like you've never run before. 402 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: So you don't get it. So I think it does. 403 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: I think that's why sharing your story is so important, 404 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: because someone's going to hear is going to click yeah, 405 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: and you realize you're not alone and you're significantly younger 406 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: than I am, so I didn't grow up in the 407 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: world of like social media where everybody's like face tuning 408 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: their bodies to become something that doesn't actually even exist 409 00:24:54,240 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: in this world. And did you find any extra pressure 410 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: or difference because there was so much online at the time, 411 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: Like you could look you can go on Instagram and 412 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: you see people posing in bathing suits every single day. 413 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: Some are them and some aren't really them. You see 414 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: them in real life and you're like, what the yep. 415 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: I definitely think that that was like a subconscious thing. 416 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, mine kind of strip from running, So 417 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: I think seeing runners online was and like seeing how 418 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: successful they were in day looks like that was more 419 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: of a trigger for me. But I would say in recovery, 420 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: it was really important for me to not look at 421 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: social media and things online because you can't get to 422 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: that place of like I'm never gonna look like that, 423 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: like this is hopeless or whatever. So I don't know 424 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: that wasn't a direct trigger for me, um, but I 425 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: know it is for other people, and I do think 426 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: there's a subconscious element there too. It's interesting that you 427 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: say that about runners and how you start to look 428 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: at other runners. I read this book. It's called Fast Girl. 429 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Susie Favor wrote it, and it is truly incredible her 430 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: she had developed a complete eating disorder all revolved around 431 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: how all the different runners looked. And I think so 432 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: often times we are comparing ourselves to others instead of 433 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: looking at ourselves and actually loving ourselves. And that's the 434 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: hardest thing about this world that we live in now. 435 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: Of comparison. Oh yeah, I mean comparisons the thief of joy. 436 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: I feel like people say that all the time, but 437 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: it is so true. It really is. If if I 438 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: didn't compare myself to anybody else, then I would probably 439 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: be so content. But seeing what everyone else is doing, definitely, 440 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: and how everyone else looks and having something that you 441 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: don't have, and it really takes away from the joy 442 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: that you should be feeling in that moment. And what 443 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: would you say some of the tools you could give 444 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: our listeners if they're hearing this and they're relating to 445 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: your story, what could you what advice need to get them? 446 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: My biggest piece is seek professional help. Even if you 447 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: don't think that you have a fall on eating disorder anything. Um, 448 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: there's no shame in going to a therapist at all. 449 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: I think it's the best thing ever um either a 450 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: therapist or a dietitian, I think it's huge. I think 451 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: being intentional to spend time with other people face to 452 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: face and putting your phone down and really like have 453 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: a three hour long dinner with your best friends at 454 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: your house and have no phones and just enjoy the 455 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: people around you rather than looking to the internet and 456 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: influencers and all these things that you're seeing every day. 457 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: I think that's huge. And then really just listening to 458 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: your body, like flowing down and not being in a 459 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: rush and listening to what your body needs that day. 460 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: It might be a glass of water instead of another snack, 461 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: where it might be another snack or whatever. But I 462 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: don't think that we pay enough attention to what our 463 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: bodies are saying. And usually our bodies are right. Yeah, 464 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: that's true, And it's day by day, you know, I 465 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: think if you wake up and and also a big 466 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: thing for me has been preparing myself for things that 467 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: are and especially now that I'm pregnant, but preparing myself 468 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: with healthy foods that make me and my baby feel good. 469 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: And there's no shame in bringing snacks with you. Yeah, 470 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, for sure, because the worst thing you I 471 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: could you know, I used to would be like I 472 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: would be angry, and then I would make decisions based 473 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: on you know, I need this, write this, as opposed 474 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: to being like, oh wow, no, I have all these 475 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: perfectly great snacks that are going to fuel me and 476 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: make me feel good and then not set off red 477 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: flags of some past issues. Yeah, no, definitely. Well, I 478 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: cannot thank you enough for talking to us. And how 479 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: do people reach out to you if they want to 480 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: speak to you and kind of get some more tools? Um, 481 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: they can message me on Instagram. Instagram is Jess Clark 482 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: underscore and Clark hasn't e at the end. But I'm 483 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: really bad at checking my messages. So on your profile 484 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: there's the email button and I check my email more 485 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: often and that's really meat too, So emailing there from 486 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: my Instagram perfect. Thank you so much, of course, thank you. 487 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: Bye bye. So, guys who got to tune in after 488 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: the break because we have Jackie gold Schneider coming on. 489 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: She is a real housewife of New Jersey who has 490 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: openly struggled with her and arexia, and she is willing 491 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: to share her story with us. Hey Jackie, how are you? Hey? Patty, 492 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: how are you good? Thank you? Can you pronounce your 493 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: last name for me? I'm a hot mess express always 494 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: gold perfect. Thank you so much for coming on and 495 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: sharing your story with us. I just got off the 496 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: phone with Jessica Clark, who had been talking to us 497 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: about binging and purging, and it's starting at kind of 498 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: a young age because she had set herself on an 499 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: eating plan and it was all due to wanting a 500 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: runner's body and being a successful runner. And I think 501 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: that oftentimes it is linked to sports, but it's also 502 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: so much more And I would love to hear kind 503 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: of your background and your story I think helps so 504 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: many of our listeners. Yeah, I think mine so I 505 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: never binged and purged. I never had um bolimia. I 506 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: was anorexic, and um mine wasn't linked to sports. Mine 507 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: was just having no concept of healthy eating. I mean, 508 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: it's not really something my parents taught me. Um So 509 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: mine was that I got very heavy and then suddenly 510 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: like the impulse to lose weight was like like I 511 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: had was like do or die, Like I had to 512 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: get all the weight off because that suddenly I felt 513 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: so terrible about myself, and so I just took the quicken. Um, 514 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I was sixteen years old. Okay, sorry to cut you off, Yeah, no, 515 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: no problem. And so I think I just I got 516 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: involved with some really unhealthy eating habits and I would 517 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: my weight would fluctuate constantly, and then I figured out 518 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: that really the less I ate, the more I was 519 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: going to lose. And I just once I started in 520 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: my mid twenties, I just couldn't let go of it. 521 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: And it really it takes you on a really downward 522 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: spiral where you're just afraid of putting any weight back, 523 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: and you know, got really bad for me and what 524 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: we're When did you start realizing that it was taking 525 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: a toll on your life? Um? I think when some 526 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: of my habits. So I went through a really tough 527 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: time for about ten years, and I think, UM, when 528 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: some of my habits began, um taking life of their 529 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: own when I couldn't when I couldn't stop myself from 530 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, bringing a food scale to a restaurant or 531 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: from um, little things like just just terrible habits that 532 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: I had when I couldn't stop them, when I couldn't 533 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: talk myself out of them. Then I knew that I 534 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: was that it was becoming dangerous and my weight started 535 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: getting very low. Um, I had almost I had like 536 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: eight percent body fat. Little things. I lost my period, 537 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: I I never got it back. I you know, I 538 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: ended up with fertility problems. UM, a lot of things. 539 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: I realized along the way that it was bad, and 540 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: I still couldn't stop. Yeah, and do you think that. 541 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean for our listeners out there that aren't sure 542 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: if they are developing, you know, a sickness. So some 543 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: of the red flags for you or you were bringing 544 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: a scale to restaurants, Yeah, I mean there had a 545 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: lot of red flags. I knew. I knew that the 546 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: way I was eating wasn't wasn't healthy. I mean, if 547 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: you're ever if you ever feel compelled to really restrict 548 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: yourself so much, it's not a natural way to lose weight. 549 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: I would say, if it's not a lifestyle, then it's 550 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: probably not a good idea. I think, Um, I think 551 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: you know whether or not something is healthy for you. 552 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean I was substituting regular food with diets up 553 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: to suits like any chance I could, Um, if it's 554 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: if it's too artificial, if it's you know, I would say, 555 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: if you if you have a question about it, really 556 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: try to see a nutritionist, you know, because they'll tell 557 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: you whether or not it's a healthy habit. UM. You know, 558 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: I wish I had done that sooner. And what kind 559 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: of led you to the place that you finally did? UM? 560 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: I somebody referred me to I was really bad, and 561 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: somebody had referred me to UM, a nutritionist who specialized 562 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: in eating disorders, and they said, just see her one time, 563 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: and if you don't, if you don't like her, then 564 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: you don't have to go back. And the minute I 565 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: saw her, she she understood what I was going through, 566 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: and I knew that she could be the person to 567 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: help me. But when she told me the ways that 568 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: I was behaving, that we're impacting my children, then I 569 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: was like, that's it. When I saw so, I was 570 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: weighing my children's food to UM, and it was just 571 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: like all encompassing, like I couldn't I couldn't stop controlling 572 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: what they were eating. Also, And once I realized that 573 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: I was doing that, I said, this is done. I 574 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: have to be done. It's so crazy that you said that, 575 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: because that was it was. It took me to get 576 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: pregnant to finally change my life to say I I 577 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: can't live like this anymore. I have no idea what 578 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm doing. I have to educate myself. I have to 579 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: start healing because now I have kids and I can't 580 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: possibly let them see what I'm doing to myself on 581 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: a daily basis, right, And that's that's the thing. You 582 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: have to get to the place where you have that breakthrough, 583 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, like people can't force it on you. Um, 584 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: which is terrible because a lot of a lot of 585 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: people want to help you when you're struggling, and it 586 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: really has to be something that you want to do 587 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: for yourself. I mean, that's what I found for myself. 588 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: And this is a controversial topic. But in your opinion, 589 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: does you're eating disorder go away? Oh? No, definitely not. 590 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: I mean I'm work. I consider myself recovered, but I 591 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: still have lingering, like terrible anxiety over food sometimes, which 592 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: is so strange because I really don't have anxiety, and 593 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: I consider myself confidence and like have everything under control. 594 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: But when it comes to food and eating, I get 595 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: like I get the urge to restrict myself more than 596 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: I need to. Well, it's interesting that you use the 597 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: word control because that's the one of the biggest triggers 598 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, it's something we in control. 599 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: Um yeah, definitely. So what when you're feeling when you're 600 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: feeling it coming back, or you're feeling like you're in 601 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: a place where your your anxieties high because of it, 602 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: what are some of the tools that you do to 603 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: combat it? Now? Um? Well, I first I remind myself 604 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: that that my children are watching me, and I have 605 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: a daughter. I mean I have three boys and they 606 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: watched me too, But I have a daughter and I 607 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: don't want her to experience any of this. Um I Also, 608 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, in those moments, then I remind myself that, 609 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: like what I went through with such torture, and I 610 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: can never do that again. So even if I skip 611 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: a meal today, I'm not going to be able to 612 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: go back to what I was because it wasn't a life. 613 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: It was not a life. All I thought about was 614 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: food and my my wedding. All I thought about was 615 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: what I was eating or wasn't eating. I mean, that 616 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: was terrible to spend your wedding like that, you know, 617 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: So I just remind myself that, like, it's not worth it. 618 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go back to that. I could 619 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: never go back to that, so you know, you talk 620 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: yourself out of it, but it's hard. It's still hard. 621 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: I still have a problem when I step on the 622 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: scale and I'm a pound heavier tooth sons heavier. It's hard. 623 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: And what would you say to our listeners out there 624 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: that have a loved one like your husband at your wedding, Like, 625 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: do you think he was aware of that? What's the 626 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: best way to support one if they're going through this. 627 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, my husband, I feel bad because he had 628 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: no idea what to do with me, and he would 629 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: always tell me how beautiful I was and like suggest 630 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: me share something, and I always turned it away. Um. 631 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot to put on your loved 632 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: ones to expect them to know what to do. But 633 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: for a loved one who does want to help, I 634 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: would suggest, you know, don't give up and keep trying 635 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: to get Uh. The person who's struggling to see somebody professional, Um, 636 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 1: be it a therapist or a nutritionist who specializes in 637 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: eating disorders. Um, don't try to do it yourself, you know, 638 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: don't try to tell them to just eat. It doesn't 639 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: really work like that. But I would I would really 640 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: try to take them to see somebody who's specialized in this, 641 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: because that, I mean, that's the same exact thing Jessica 642 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: set as well. And that's how I feel. If if 643 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: you're struggling, if if you know that you need to 644 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: seek professional help, there's you don't win an award for 645 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: for grin and bearing it. And the percussions are huge. Um. Also, 646 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm curious do you think that your kids, because it 647 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: happened at the beginning, to think they have any idea 648 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: or No. I don't because I stopped. I started eating 649 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: again when they were they were pretty little, so they 650 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: were Um. I have two sets of twins, so my 651 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: older ones were four. My my babies were too, So 652 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they remember any of it. Um. And 653 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: I make a real show of making sure they see me, 654 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, share things with them and eat like heavy food. 655 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: You know. I also make them see me, you know, 656 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: be healthy. And they see mommy and daddy exercise almost 657 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: every day. UM, so they know they know healthy. They 658 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: don't just see eating crap. You know. They we teach 659 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: them healthy habits when we make sure they're always active 660 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: and physical. And you know, my goal isn't just to 661 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: show them that I eat it's to show them how 662 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: to be healthy so they don't ever have to go 663 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: through the struggle. But I went through I know. I mean, 664 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: I of course I think the same way, you know, 665 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 1: like I want to show my kids as much balanced 666 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: as I possibly can. I try to we try to 667 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: do active things together because we live in the world 668 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: now where kids want to get on iPads or you know, 669 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: social media or Nintendo switch or whatever the new thing is. 670 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: And for me, it's like, no, let's go out. And 671 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying let's go run up, but like run 672 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go play soccer, Let's have a Kurtwheel 673 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: competition or whatever it may be. So that we're doing 674 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: active things as a family and it doesn't know I 675 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: have a punishment. Important. I mean, it's really important to 676 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: show them both. I mean they say that obesity, the 677 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: obesity epidemic right now is because kids don't go outside anymore. Yeah. 678 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: And do you think, just kind of in closing, do 679 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: you think there's one trigger that really hits you that 680 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: then you have to really like dig into or do 681 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: you think that or it just comes up randomly, like 682 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: does it come from stress or being busy? Um? No, 683 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: I would say, I'm most triggered by the scale, which 684 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: is why I really try to stay off of it now. 685 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: I used to weigh myself every single day, and if 686 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: I was if I like straight more than like a 687 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: half pound from what I was, I wouldn't know what 688 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: to do with myself. And now I probably weighed myself 689 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: three times a year. I try to go more by 690 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: my clothing, um, because I just get it just makes 691 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: me a little crazy. So when I see numbers on 692 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: the scale, that triggers me. Um, So I try to 693 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: stay away from that. Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing. 694 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: You You learn what your triggers are, You learn what 695 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: works for you what doesn't, and then you know, I 696 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: think even us being able to have this conversation is 697 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: something that didn't happen ten years ago. Yeah, absolutely, so right. 698 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing your story with us, 699 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for for calling in, for letting me, you know, 700 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: have this opportunity. It was great talking to you. Great 701 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: talking to you too. Okay, I'm looking forward to bringing 702 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: Christie on because there are so many of us who 703 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: are struggling with our relationships with food, but we don't 704 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: realize are we binging and purging, Um, is it anorexia? 705 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: Is it body dysmorphia? As it self? Hate? And my 706 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: emotional eating? What's going on? So? I I think having 707 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: her lay it all out for us and give us 708 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: some tools UM is a great way for our listeners 709 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: to connect and also figure out what support groups they 710 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: should be reaching out to. Hi, we're on with Christie Morrale. 711 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: She is a registered dietitian. She's also a sports dietitian 712 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: at the USC and for the l A Kings. So 713 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: we're so happy to pick your brain. Thank you so much, 714 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: thank you. No, I'm happy to be here, absolutely so. 715 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: Earlier on in this episode, we had on somebody who 716 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: had a history of binging and purging, and then somebody 717 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: who on and off has had an active anorexia disorder. 718 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: And for the people listening who don't understand the difference 719 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: on all these englisht orders, can you kind of explain 720 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: them and then also the effects they have on our 721 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 1: body long term? Sure? I mean there are many different 722 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: days and can start with anorexia. Obviously, it's starving the body, 723 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: so it's not to be your body and your brain 724 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,439 Speaker 1: enough nutrients. And I mean I've been doing the eating 725 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: disorder work for almost twenty years now, and I will 726 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: say that there are long term effects. For example, I 727 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: had an AX clients who are seeing in her teens, 728 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: and she made a full recovery, which is awesome, but 729 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: she was walking down a flight of stairs then missed 730 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: her step and then literally broke her hip. And she 731 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 1: was only at that time, I think twenty two. So 732 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 1: the challenges when you're young and you develop an eating disorder, 733 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: your bones and your body it just doesn't grow properly 734 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: and you can have a lot of long term effects 735 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: with possibly getting pregnant or having very brutal bones and 736 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, your hair may never grow the way that 737 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: it should have or um, you know your your skin, 738 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: and there's so many different effects that way. So the 739 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: restriction is probably the most dangerous because you can you 740 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 1: can die and um, when you don't give your body 741 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: enough food, it pulls from your organs and which is 742 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 1: why some matter extits you passed away won't a heart 743 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: attack because of that. So that's the most fear UM 744 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: and at that point they're in in treatment in a 745 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: hospital or getting the type of help that they need. UM. 746 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: But they're all types of restriction. I mean you can 747 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,280 Speaker 1: be functioning and be analytics um, and there are plenty. Unfortunately, 748 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: I see that a lot in the way because everybody 749 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: tries to be a lot leaner than probably what their 750 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: body set point should be. So there are sort of 751 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,720 Speaker 1: in a state of restriction um and obsessive compulsive thinking 752 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: about it all the time throughout another a whole kind 753 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 1: of area of restriction. And then binge eating is um 754 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: somebody who could bend but not necessarily perched, and so 755 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: they would just have a bench eating disorder, or they're 756 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: not doing anything to counteractive enging, but they may restrict 757 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: all day, which is what I see often, and then 758 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: trying to be good quote unquote or trying to diet 759 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: but then not able to us sustain that, and then 760 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: come up, come home at night and binge and eat 761 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, three or four thousand calories um, and then 762 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: the cycle starts all over. And then they get up 763 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: in the morning and they try to be good and 764 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 1: then they restrict. So that's that's a that's a common 765 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: cycle and see often. And then of course being me 766 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: is somebody who binges em purges, but not always like 767 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 1: some people will not necessarily binge and then perch. You 768 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,479 Speaker 1: could have somebody who just is terrifying terrified of beaning weight, 769 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: so they may just eat a normal sized meal, but 770 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to keep that in them, so then 771 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 1: they'll part that. So that's another whole level. And then 772 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: the other line is orthorexia, which is an obsession with 773 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: eating healthy. Um, so that was really interesting because it's 774 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: it's people who don't eat, but they only will eat 775 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: things with no processed sugar and only certain ingredients and 776 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: are over the top healthy. And I think again that 777 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: one is very common to get away with an alley 778 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: because people are almost crazed for eating healthy. And I 779 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: think that in itself is actually kind of dangerous because um, 780 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: we're almost like, oh my gosh, you have some of 781 00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 1: health controller you're so great. But really what they are 782 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: is completely obsessed and taken over by looking at ingredients, 783 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: been watching everything. They put no body. So all of 784 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: these disorders are very like they're just not present in life. 785 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 1: They're very controlled and obsessed. I'm thinking about all of 786 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 1: that all the time, and that's also another level of 787 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 1: dangerous for that too. And do you think there's a 788 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: root cause of this happening? And do you think the 789 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: root cause can change by disorder. Oh absolutely, there's so 790 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: many that I wouldn't say there's one in particular root 791 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: cause there's so many different levels. But I would say 792 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: from my experience of being in l A specifically with 793 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: all the young kids that I see, because I also 794 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: specialize in adolescents adolescents, and I think that the main 795 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 1: issue is this constant pressure of looking good and eating healthy, 796 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: like over the top healthy and um and the parents. 797 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the young kids that I 798 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: see are very much like that. You know, you can 799 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: exercise healthily and you can eat healthfully, but when you 800 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: are cutting out things and exercising its obsessively and talking 801 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: about it. When that young child, whether it's a bloy 802 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: or girl, because I definitely have some bloyers in my 803 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: practice now too, see that and then they could attach 804 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: that type of eating and lifestyle and that's how it is. 805 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: I feel it affects the younger the younger kids, and 806 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 1: I would say with my teenagers that I see, it's 807 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: very much so. The Instagram world his has has impacted 808 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: the way they feel about their bodies, how they should 809 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: be eating. But they're not eating clean enough, or they're 810 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: not exercising as much, or I don't how they might 811 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 1: not have those apps like so and so has on Instagram. 812 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: So I think there are many, many different levels to this, UM, 813 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 1: and I think that it's just I don't see where 814 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: it's getting better. And I think that's where it's a 815 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: little frustrating, UM, being in this practice. So what would 816 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: you say that? So I have little kids, and I have, 817 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, consistently had issues surrounding food and body image 818 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 1: until after I had my kids. And the biggest thing 819 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: for me and why I decided I need to actively 820 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: work on changing my life and I created a business 821 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: from it and all types of things because I'm so 822 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: passionate about it is because I want my kids to 823 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: have a healthy relationship with food. So I want to 824 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm doing the right things. And I 825 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, something that we do in our house is 826 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: we try to do active things together. But I'm not 827 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,959 Speaker 1: like saying, hey, you ate that, so now you gotta 828 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: go run around. I'm like, you know, I we try 829 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 1: to do family hikes together, we play sports, we do 830 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 1: things that are activities. UM. And then when we're in 831 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: the house, we all, you know, we eat healthy foods, 832 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: but if we're out to dinner, everybody picks what they 833 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: want to eat, But what would you say kind of 834 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: the best ground rules for having your family kind of 835 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: follow so you're not leading your kids into some of 836 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: the same issues that you've once had. Yeah. Absolutely, Now 837 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a great question, because I do think 838 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: and I get this asked a lot by parents pressing. Foremost, 839 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: it's creating a healthy relationship, your stuff of food, what 840 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: you're doing, So it's the dynamic arabs and that there's 841 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: many like not bad, this is good kind of scenario. Um. 842 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: I think eating together as a family, which I see 843 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot missing, and I get that my kids aren't sports, 844 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: parents are busy, but when you can eating together as 845 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: a family, it's also role modeling what is healthy, what 846 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: is normal, how everybody eats, not that the I see 847 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: a lot of kids have dad eats one thing the moment, 848 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: it's one thing. Everybody's like, you know, the mom like 849 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: steam spinach and you know, egg whites, and the dad's 850 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: eating it's just laster disordered. So trying to eat in 851 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 1: a more unified way, I think it's very important, and 852 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: then having conversations about it, you know, you can say 853 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: obviously when you're both a party today, you don't need 854 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: to be having you know, something after lunch and I 855 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: know them for the birthday party and probably have skating 856 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: or something that that's okay to have this conversation that 857 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,839 Speaker 1: helps them understand why not that you're saying you're better 858 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: leave this monthday party then and have nothing because you 859 00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: already have lemonade with lunch, Like that's not useful. It's 860 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be mad at them. It's really engaging 861 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: them and helping them because at the end of the day, 862 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,399 Speaker 1: they're gonna not always be decide you and they're gonna 863 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: have to make right decisions. And so you can educate 864 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 1: them on why, you know, how we create balance, Like 865 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: you know what, you really had pizza and French fries yesterday. 866 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna try to do something a little bit different today. 867 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: Let's try not to have human I mean, and if 868 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: you help them understand it's balance that I think is 869 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,399 Speaker 1: incredibly beneficial for young kids because I think they can 870 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: understand like, yeah, that doesn't mean I feel good when 871 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: I eat fried foods every day. So I'm going to 872 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 1: add in something coold, you know, because yesterday I ate 873 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, fried food or whatever. So 874 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: I think it's it's talking with your kids, educating them 875 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: on the why and balance is really and I know 876 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: for my son, he really loves like if I'm like, 877 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, spinach is going to make you strong? Or 878 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: this chicken, you know, because if it was up to him, 879 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: he would eat like want processed cheese at every meal 880 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: like you feeling, Can I have agony and cheese for breakfast? 881 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: And for la Can I have a grilled cheese? You know? 882 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: Like he just loves all of that type of things. 883 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,880 Speaker 1: But the second that I make it fun and I'm like, well, 884 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, Popeye love spinach because it made his muscles 885 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: really big, He's like, MoMA, it's so important. Especially the 886 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, sports dietician team and I talk a lot about, 887 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, the nu trands that your body needs to 888 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: grow strong to you know, maximize your health whatever you um, yeah, 889 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 1: maximize or health, but also grows. Pauls we're going to 890 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: be right, so we all have a step point of 891 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: where we're supposed to be hepe wise. But if you 892 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: undernurish yourself and you're not doing the right proper things 893 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,160 Speaker 1: like that, that can technically stunt grows. So yes, you 894 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: want to make sure that you're incorporating fruits and vegetables 895 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,879 Speaker 1: and lots of him tramp dempse foods and explain them why, 896 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, the muscle and being strong. And I always 897 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: talk about health like it's no fun on a big 898 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: soccer game to be sick. So it's important to get 899 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of anti accidents into your body so you 900 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: can hopefully, you know, not get as sick as as 901 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: other kids. Um So I think that's important too. I 902 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: mean getting them involved in cooking. You know, I have 903 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: this whole conversation with parents and their lunches. You know, 904 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: their kids will come home for lunch and not lunches. 905 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,359 Speaker 1: That happens to me sometimes. But when they pick, they 906 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 1: pick like not lunch, they pick like fifty four snacks 907 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: and they're like this seems like a good choice, and 908 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not this. You can't have raisins and 909 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: right right right right. So it's really a struggle. Yeah, 910 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: it is. I mean it's not easy and there's not 911 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,399 Speaker 1: one way doing this, Like every family has to kind 912 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: of figure out what works for them. But if you 913 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: sit down and you're like, okay, I gotta like have 914 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: a things of carbohydrates, where is that? Where is your 915 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: sons of protein? Where is your where a rishable? It 916 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 1: might look a little, you know, decopartmentalized like in a 917 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: in a snack type of it isn't like all the 918 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: components are there. You're fine, and they look like a 919 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 1: traditional sandwich, sticks and fruit or something. But you want 920 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: them to make sure that they're eating something. So that's 921 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: when from getting the kids involved, because ultimately they're going 922 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: to open their lunch box and either tune to eat 923 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: it or not. And I'd rather eat it to have 924 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: energy and to be able to concentrate and focus in 925 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: class versus well, I tell my mom, I did not 926 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 1: because you do so much. And I'm still not gonna 927 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: eat a sand much, you know. So it's it's almost 928 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: you feel better about today's lunch because lunch looks like 929 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: a shrikuderie tray. Fine about that? I actually am like, 930 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think there's anything wrong with it 931 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: as young as they're going to eat it, honestly. And 932 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: so some reader questions in regards to family, friends and parenting, 933 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on parents pointing out children's weight 934 00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,839 Speaker 1: gains and losses to their own you mean, to your 935 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: own child, or to their sister or their father or 936 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: their you know child. However, however, the dynamic is so 937 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: I guess, let me see poll just on this correctly. 938 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 1: So let's say your sister's child or gaining weight and 939 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 1: you're noticing that. No, your sister's gaining weight and you're 940 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,720 Speaker 1: noticing that, or your child's gaining weight, and you're noticing 941 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: that that. That's a common question that people are having 942 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,280 Speaker 1: because if they're noticing it, what do they do? Okay, 943 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: great questions. Okay, so this one is do we really 944 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: really important? Because this is where the hang up gets 945 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,359 Speaker 1: started to like kind of go down a disordered path. 946 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 1: I always tell parents to put it on the putrition 947 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 1: because then you're out of it. Just say, honey, we're 948 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna take you. You haven't had a check up in 949 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 1: a while. We're going to take you to the pediutrition. 950 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,720 Speaker 1: Just make sure all is good. I mean, that's pretty typical. 951 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: That doesn't feel like anything's wrong with that. Right then 952 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: you call ahead to pedu trition and you're like, look, 953 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: I noticed that, you know, whatever she has pull un 954 00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: some way. I feel like she's and I just don't 955 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,840 Speaker 1: want you know, I'm gonna prevent anything that can possibly 956 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 1: cause like no diabetes or any health related issues, and 957 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: so I want you to be able to have a 958 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,000 Speaker 1: conversation with her. It's kind of a dynamic of the 959 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: parent and the child. I feel like when parents approached 960 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: the child. But again depends on the kid, but I 961 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: it's sometimes can go sideways pretty quickly, and then there's this. 962 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: Then they feel watched. Then they feel like they have 963 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,800 Speaker 1: to sleep eat because now their parents known has that 964 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: they're gaining weight. And if the child comes to that's different. 965 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: If if she says or he says, well, I feel 966 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: like I'm gaining weight, like like my stomach or whatever. 967 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: That's a conversation, like you know what I mean. And 968 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: if you're feeling that way, like, let's look at what 969 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: do you think you could do differently? You know, I've 970 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: noticed that you've not been as acting. Maybe we could 971 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: just start doing that. Be very gentle. This isn't like 972 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 1: let's send you to a weight last person. Let's let's 973 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: I think it's the conversation and really snaing with some 974 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 1: passion that's important. But when you're noticing and they they 975 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: don't say anything to you. I always want to mend 976 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: that's a perfect opportunity to have the pediatrician because when 977 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 1: the parents and again you have to really know your 978 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: own child. If that's the best direction. Some parents can 979 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: go to their child and say, you know, honey, I've 980 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 1: noticed that you know your parents have gotten smaller and 981 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: and I just want to make sure, like you know, 982 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: do you see that too? And see but again it's 983 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: such a so you know, I mean, because always better 984 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: when you the pediatrician is such That's what I've had 985 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: most parents who call me and like, look, I've noticed this. 986 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, right, you have a good relationship with your pedisician, 987 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 1: just awesome talk to them, has them have that conversation. 988 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: They can ask the questions of while are you having that? 989 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: Are you? You know? Because when the parent gets involved, 990 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's typically doesn't go well. So what 991 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: are like some not twos like what are things to do? Well, 992 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: there's a lot of not tunes for parents. Um, not 993 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: to a never have a scale that's visible in the 994 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: battom um. The parents should be very aware of their 995 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 1: own body talk of language. Um, if you know, again, 996 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: like I think saying, you know, let's say your daughter 997 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: comes to you and so I want to start eating sugar. 998 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: Could not be like, oh, I mean, that's such a 999 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: great idea. Let's do that. I think, you know, like 1000 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: I think encouraging them to be like well like always 1001 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: let's have a conversation about that versus you've noticed that 1002 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: your daughter starts to your son like had out things. 1003 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: And I think as parents, as an idea of like, 1004 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,800 Speaker 1: I've had many parents I've time to me be like, 1005 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: how I wish I would have known like I was 1006 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: praising them for eating healthy and calculating their calories, and 1007 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, I just thought they were being healthy. And 1008 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: that's the problem. You could have two people go on 1009 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: a healthy track, one develops a significant eating deferdo and 1010 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 1: the other one and um, you know, um to sign 1011 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: like thisses a few pounds and feels great, or change 1012 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 1: her lifestyle and felt amazing. But you just want to 1013 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: be really careful of that. Um. You know, an eating 1014 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: disorder can occur occur no matter which way you were raised. 1015 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: That is, it can and there's no there's no guarantee. Right, 1016 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: you can have very you know, healthy parents who are 1017 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: very normal and healthy food in their bodies and still 1018 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 1: have a child who again. And that's why I think 1019 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: Instagram world in school becomes very challenging because they talk 1020 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: about it. That's the reality that's nice for meeting. I 1021 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: think the parents would tack about like, hey, I mean, 1022 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, if a girl comes home and be like, 1023 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, still says on the sign and she 1024 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,439 Speaker 1: lost so much way it looks so good. I don't 1025 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: want to like have a conversation. Stop what you're doing 1026 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: and it will give me. But like those are the 1027 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: moments where like, what do you think about that, honey, 1028 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: because maybe she's gonna she's about to jump on board 1029 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's great, and you kind of 1030 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: just you know, don't even think twice. But it's really 1031 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,040 Speaker 1: listening to your kids about, you know, what's going on 1032 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: at school. What are the conversations like even if you 1033 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:19,040 Speaker 1: feel like your daughter son would be that they're totally fine, um, 1034 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: because it can it can sneak up in ways that 1035 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: you don't even realize if you're not paying attention to 1036 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: those kinds of comments, you know. Um. But yeah, I 1037 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: think that that the dynamic at home just needs to 1038 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: be very open dialogue about that in particular, and watch 1039 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: the way they're dressing. I think that's another sign to Um. 1040 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of girls where moms are like, 1041 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: I didn't even walk still wearing baggy clothes and I 1042 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 1: got any spail and she was pun pounds down like 1043 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: in two months from being at the pediatrician's office. The 1044 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: mom was just like, how did I not notice? And 1045 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, so I think there are certain things that 1046 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 1: can go on that you just you just have to 1047 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: kind of know what are the warning signs and just 1048 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: communicating as much as you can. Yeah, and how would 1049 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 1: you know if some if you're struggling with body dysmorphia, Um, 1050 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: it's hold a daughter or just yourself in general for anybody, well, 1051 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 1: I think, um, that's a fulso big one because I 1052 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of people see themselves not as there 1053 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: because they're comparing themselves to somebody who looks better than them. 1054 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000 Speaker 1: So they always still sat and they feel like I'm 1055 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: still not skinny enough because I'm comparing myself too. So 1056 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 1: and so we're somebody on Instagram. Um, the obsession is 1057 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,200 Speaker 1: really where the danger is when they're looking in the 1058 01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: mirror like look. Also, girls like take out this, go 1059 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: to the stower, you put your clothes on, you go 1060 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: to the next thing. If you're sitting in examinating yourselves, 1061 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: like literally spending more than a couple of minutes, you're 1062 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: you're going down at Catchers Road. So why did the more? 1063 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: It comes from the lack of self esteem and typically 1064 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: a comparison factor. And um, it's a tough one to 1065 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: get get through because if they're seeing themselves differently than 1066 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 1: what is that? Obviously there's where the psychological help is needed. 1067 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: So I don't see any client unless you're seeing a therapist. 1068 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: So it is that. Yeah, it's much bigger than that. Right. 1069 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: So in closing, if one of our listeners or one 1070 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: of our listeners loved ones is currently struggling, what is 1071 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: your recommendation, Like how do they seek help? If they 1072 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:36,800 Speaker 1: think I don't have money or I don't know if 1073 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: I have a problem, where do they start? Um, While 1074 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like I would say, the big UM, 1075 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, the help with eating disorder, there's lots of 1076 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 1: websites like I know that, Um, all the eating disorder 1077 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: treatment fatilities have websites that you can go on and 1078 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: they have like typical questions and you can they can 1079 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: ask um so in questions like Eating Disorder Center of 1080 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: California months meeting. There's are big ones. Um there's a 1081 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of different places here. And then you can even 1082 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 1: just have reach out to you know, a specialized dietician 1083 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 1: like myself or a therapist and just say can I 1084 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 1: have a consult like I need to figure out what 1085 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: path I need to do? You know, because sometimes it 1086 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 1: is an outpatient setting and sometimes they at a place 1087 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,920 Speaker 1: where they really need more intensive by treatment. UM So 1088 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: I guess I would start there. But the TEENA trucition 1089 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 1: is such a good fallback, Like a lot of pediatricians 1090 01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,440 Speaker 1: are far to me because that's they they know, you know, 1091 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: typically where to um to have the parents reach out 1092 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:45,439 Speaker 1: and and seek help. But that's always a safe place 1093 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: to start because you can kind of see the trends 1094 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: like okay, they've lost a lot of weight, or I've 1095 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 1: seen kids where their heights starts to deplase and that 1096 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 1: gets really worrisome. So the pediatrician, I would say start there, 1097 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 1: and then if they want to go online and look 1098 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,920 Speaker 1: at some astraining facility that they can help be helpful 1099 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 1: to just answering some questions well, thank you so much 1100 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: for taking the time with us today. We really happy 1101 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: to absolutely have a good day. Okay, thank you so much. 1102 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: So guys, I know we didn't even get through half 1103 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: of the questions that you'll have, so honestly, please, we 1104 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: want to keep getting these answers to you. Email them 1105 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: to us or d M at Teddy Teapot. If there's 1106 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 1: something that you feel that we have missed that you 1107 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: want us to cover, we'll get back to you, will 1108 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 1: send you the resources that you need. And you know, 1109 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: once again, in closing, like what every person here said 1110 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: was comparison. Comparison takes away your joy. Comparison makes you 1111 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: believe something that's not true, So really focus on yourself, 1112 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: focus on what makes you feel your best. And honestly, 1113 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 1: the game changer for me was talking to someone, being open, 1114 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 1: sharing my story, being okay that I'm not perfect. And 1115 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: once I was able to do those things, everything shifted. 1116 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: There will always be weird moments or uncomfortable moments or 1117 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: stressful times where you know the red flag will be raised, 1118 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 1: but I'm able to talk about it now, and I'm 1119 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,280 Speaker 1: able to have a place where I feel safe, and 1120 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,959 Speaker 1: the fact that I can even talk to you guys 1121 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,160 Speaker 1: about it right now. That is helping me heal, so 1122 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 1: it never goes away. But you're not alone, and you 1123 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: know what we're here for you. Thanks for listening. 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