WEBVTT - Red Sox Trade Deadline Rumors Heating Up 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:11.479 Welcome to Massa Territory. Ladies and gentlemen. Can you smell it? 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:15.480 Can you taste it? Can you do a little bit 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.120 of both? The trade deadline is coming up, ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.919 We are a week away, a week away and a 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:24.080 few hours away. Let's get to it here, ladies and gentlemen, 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.639 let's get to buster Oni. He had this here to 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:33.440 say today. The Red Sox have been searching for a shortstop, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.080 speaking of Eli Daily Cruz in a market notably thin 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.680 in shortstops. And you know the keyword that sticks out 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:45.720 to me, there is market, the market. You gotta play 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.400 to the market. You never know what could end up happening. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.720 You never know what possibilities could happen. I mean, Paul 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.959 Tavoni just talked about it with Curtis Mead the other day. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.520 That was a guy that wasn't even on the board, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.400 and then all of a sudden teams were calling, and 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:05.440 then things can happen, Things can change very quickly. So 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:09.280 who knows, you know, again, Ellie day La Cruz, would 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.919 he actually be on the market. I don't know about that. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.480 That's a little too much to dream of in my opinion. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.920 But we've talked about the usual suspects when it comes 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.720 to shortstop possibilities for the Red Sox, and you might 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.600 be asking why shortstop. We've talked about this too before. Obviously, 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:30.280 Trevor Story has been out, He's going to be back eventually, 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.160 But how what is that production going to look like? 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.440 You don't know? Right, Yeah, you could say maybe the 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.880 hernia was definitely a big factor in the performance drop 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.240 at the beginning of the year. He was trying to 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.959 play through it, couldn't do it. How much was that 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.960 a factor there? I'm sure a good amount, but was 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:50.279 there also just some you know, the performance is starting 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:55.680 to come down a little bit. Maybe either way. You 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.440 don't know what he's going to give you. You don't 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.720 want to put all your eggs in that basket hoping that, Okay, 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:02.160 Trevor Story is gonna come back and he's gonna really 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.280 give us a lift. You don't know, and it's not fair, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.520 I think, to even expect that from someone coming back 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.320 from a surgery and missing a whole lot of time, 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.600 you know. So I'm not so sure about that. So 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:15.480 that's where I wonder if the Red Sox they are 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:20.280 looking to get as much insurance as possible. If you 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:24.799 bring in a shortstop Story coming off surgery, maybe it 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.080 would be better for him at least for the rest 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:31.480 of this year to move over to second base. Why 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.600 do I say at least this year? Well, you got 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.440 to think about it from a market point of view, right, 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.080 His agent wants Trevor Story to be playing shortstop, especially 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.720 because he's going to be a free agent soon. He's 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.400 gonna be hitting the market again. So I would imagine 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.639 Trevor Story would like to stay playing shortstop to keep 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.840 his value as high as possible. Does Why am I 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.120 saying that? Because shortstops the positional value that they carry, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.160 it's one of the highest in the game. Teams will 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:03.400 build around shortstops, right, So that's why you anytime you 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.480 go to the draft, Right when you look at the 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.840 draft and you may have like your long term shortstop already, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.400 and then you see your team draft a shortstop, you're like, 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.920 why are we drafting a shortstop? We already have a shortstop, right, 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.160 Like the Royals, if they pick up a short stop, 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.040 you already got Bobby Wick Junior. Why are you drafting 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:24.680 a shortstop? Because they tend to be the most athletic players. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.040 On the field, and they usually have a very good 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.840 baseball like you, because shortstop is a very tough position 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:32.760 to play. There's a lot of things going on there. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:37.840 So usually if you can handle shortstop, you more often 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.520 than not are able to handle other positions. Right, You've 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.080 seen guys at short go out to center field. Right. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.240 I mean, look at Trey Turner in the beginning of 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.680 his career, he was playing, he was playing some center 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:51.200 field right, so you know, Jackson Merrill, he moved out 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.320 to center right. So they can move especially. I mean, 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.400 if they can handle short, they can definitely handle second. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.200 I mean, look how good Trevor's Story was back in 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.080 twenty twenty two at second base. He was great. There 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.720 was one of the best defensive seasons at second base 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:09.240 I think I've ever seen. So, yeah, Story, he's gonna 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.200 want to play short, but you know, maybe you could 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.840 convince him, like, hey, we really need this for this year. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.320 We'll figure it out for you in the off season. Right, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:22.040 So you could do that. But then again, you know, 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.040 even if you do make that move, right, you pick 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.400 up a short stop, you move Story over to second 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.680 whatever it may be. You know, still you wonder, like, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.200 could you still you know it might be good to 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:40.600 get that insurance, and then who knows, if Story isn't 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.839 you know, he's not cutting it, then you still have 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.240 Arius down at extra plea. If he if he's going 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.480 to perform well over the next month or so, well, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.359 then you got him that you could possibly turn to. 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:57.400 Right So it's this to me, sounds like they're really 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.599 looking to cover their butts, and I think we just 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.160 saw a good example of that trading for Curtis Mead 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.760 over a week before the deadline. That was an aggressive 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.880 move and they did a great job at getting ahead. 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.400 In my opinion, you go back to Sonny Gray in 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.320 the beginning of the off season, they make the move 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.280 for him, they got ahead, They added a guy that 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.520 you know is going to be really solid for you, 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:25.440 but you still had like pretty much an entire offseason 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.800 to address other needs, but even add more starting pitching, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.680 whichould they ended up doing right. So I think Craig 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.840 he comes off as someone where he wants to throw 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:43.280 out a wide net. He really wants to cover all 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.760 the bases, no pun intended. So I'm not surprised that 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.520 the Red Sox are in the market for a short stop, 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:54.120 not surprised if story was playing, Well, that's a different conversation. Now, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:58.880 who could the Red Sox possibly be looking at? Well, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.840 are interesting that uh? You know C J. Abrams. Uh, 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:07.800 you know, listen, a couple of weeks ago, a few 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.719 weeks ago, I'm thinking, I don't know if the Nationals 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:14.320 trade Abrams right now, but they're starting to you know, 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.840 you're starting to hear the noise a little bit more. 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.400 And maybe that's just the people in the media, you know, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.279 trying to get a good story, whatever it may be. 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:31.719 But if we are looking here at the current standings, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.200 taking a look, if we're going over to the National 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.120 League Wild Card, well, the Nationals they're right there. So 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.520 you know, I don't know. That's that's why I get 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:44.760 back to you, like, I don't know if the if 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:50.159 the Nationals would really want to move Abrams at this point, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:52.560 you know, he's there right there. What would that say 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.880 to the fan base? I mean, you got two MVP 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.040 caliber players on your team this year in Abrams, would 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.479 you've already traded away Med You're gonna trade away Abrams too? 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.640 That's interesting to me, Now there was something out there. 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.000 I'm going blank. I always hate to forget this, but 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.200 I'm going blank on someone out someone put out there 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:23.720 that the Nationals aren't actively shopping him, but they're at 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:31.040 least listening to offers. So to Paul to Bony, He's like, 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.400 all right, I got if I got a monster offer 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:37.760 for mister Abrams. Well maybe we got to think about it. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:42.760 And we also had this here today from mister Jared 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:45.800 Carabs over on the Section ten podcast, taking a look. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.720 Let's take a watch. Let's see what they got to. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.520 Say to It was the antithesis of what Coley said, 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.320 because you know, we were in the scoop shop and 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.000 the Langelier's news broke and it was like fuck, the 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.480 price of Hunter Goodman just went up. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.080 And then call it was like sounds to me it's 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.800 a family friendly show. I apologize. I was a school 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.800 teacher for ten years. I can't accept the language. But 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.080 I'll tell you I'll let it go this time. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:13.280 Like the price of Langoliers just went down, which is 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.320 a great points aren't gonna want to sell for less? No, no, no, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.400 they won't sell for pennies on the dollar. But if 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.520 if Hunter, if Langoleiers is off the table, and the 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:27.720 price for Hunter Goodman just went up. Then that means 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:32.920 I am solely focused on the shortstop position. I was 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:37.080 told that just because the Red Sox traded for Mead, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:41.760 that doesn't mean that they wouldn't pursue c J. Abrams 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.440 in a separate deal with the Nationals. So because that 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.280 was another one of my thoughts. Besides, you know, Peyton 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.840 Toley is sad and I don't like that. Is well, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:54.000 that means that they're not gonna they're not gonna make 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.320 any other trades with the Nats, because why wouldn't you 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.439 just have Early as part of this big package? 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.960 But yeah, I want to touch on that one part 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.120 right there. That's a that's an interesting point. Why didn't 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.920 you just make a move for Abrams. Well, if you 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.040 go back to the comments from Paul Toboni when he 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:17.079 spoke about the trade, he's saying, things happen pretty quickly, right, 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.920 it picked up pretty quick. Teams started getting aggressive for 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.559 the Red Sox in that moment. They needed to make 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.480 sure they got something at this deadline. Like I said, 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.560 you know, they're trying to cover their butts a week out. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.600 So yeah, like you're in the moment right there for 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.880 Curtis Mead. You don't have time to be trying to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.200 work out something else with Abrams. Listen, Abrams is the 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.040 better player than Meat. Right, it is a little surprising 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.520 that the Nationals traded one of their better bats in 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.480 that lineup, but they needed pitching. So like in the moment, yeah, 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.440 you're you're better off just sticking with the task at 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.719 hand instead of trying to, you know, get cute like, oh, no, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.920 let's do something for Abrams, right, because you have a 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.160 chance to get a good bat your line up right there. 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:05.160 So I think that's the big point there, like, oh, 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:09.680 why didn't you just do something for Abrams. Well, you 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.240 don't know if you're gonna be able to get him, 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.040 so at least get the guy that you know, it 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:16.400 looks like the Nationals are going to move and ended 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:17.480 up working out that way. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.960 So you've got You've got some shortstops out there that 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.080 could be interesting to call up. And it's not going 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.760 to be Bobby Witt. I would love for it to 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:28.800 be Bobby Witt. It's not going to be Bobby Witt, 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:33.240 but there are some other talented players at the tretstop position. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.440 You know, there's a couple of catcher two. I'm not 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.600 out on. I'd call about Adley. I really wouldn't hesitate. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.080 Now you'd have to convince the Orioles to do it 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.600 in division, but they would. I'm a fan. I'm glad 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.920 Jared just said that. Like, I don't see Adley Rushman happening, 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.720 as much as I would love for that to happen. Listen. 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.760 I like Adley, I like him a lot, but I 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.400 don't think you, especially with the Orioles, there's still in 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.360 the hunt. You know, you don't trade one of your 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:06.520 better players in division that is going to be on 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.640 that team the next year if it was a rental 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.600 like Okay, maybe I don't see it, but. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:13.719 C J. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.640 Abrams again, yeah, I think personally the Nationals will Listen. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.040 I don't think that guarantees that he's going to get moved. 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.200 I do you know, Listen, if we're seeing these reports 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:30.920 recently of for shortstops out there when it comes to 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.319 the Red Sox, you're looking at including someone like Franklin 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:38.040 Arius Well. I personally like when I saw the report 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.560 from Pete Abraham, when I saw that you would have 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.320 to do Arius for like Jeremy Pania, that to me, 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:45.560 I'm like, what are we talking about because Jeremy Pani 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.640 only is one year left. I don't know, Like unless 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.400 the Astros were like, we're not moving Painia. If you 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.320 want to do Arius, like okay, Like we'll talk about it, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.120 but we don't want to move him. I don't think 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:01.360 Payia's going anywhere. The Astros, they they march to the 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.640 beat of their own drum. Well, every team does, but 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:07.439 the Astros especially, they don't trade these guys. They just don't. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.840 They want to. Jim Crane wants to put a competitive 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.760 team on the field every year, and if that means 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.800 that guy gets the free agency, then so be it. 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.600 That's how he operates. Sure it'd be a fun story 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.720 for Jeremy Panney, right, But you know, with Zach Netto, 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:25.120 for example, I could understand that because the Angels don't 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.240 have to move Nedos three more years of control left. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.520 So yeah, they should ask for Arius. Do we give 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:34.520 him up for Neto? I don't think so. I don't 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:36.920 think that's the route to go. If they wanted to 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:41.880 do Marcelo Meyer and Anthony Ainson with some other prospects 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.960 in there too, I am absolutely up for that kind 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.720 of a conversation Arius, though, I wouldn't do it for Neto? 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.040 Now would you do it for CJ. Abrams? Abrams is 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.480 again you know, I'm gonna pull up the numbers. He's 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.000 having a monster year and he still has two more 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:03.960 years of control. My guess is they would want Arius 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:07.000 back for this kind of production, right hitting two ninety 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.040 seven A nine oh ps A one fifty three WRC 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.960 plus twenty seven homers eighty two RBIs. I mean, this 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.840 is a really good season from c. J. Abrams. This 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.800 is his breakout, breakout year. He's had you know, some 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:25.720 good seasons before, but not like this. So yeah, I 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.679 think it would take Arius personally, because why wouldn't you 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:32.760 demand someone like that for this type of production? Right? Uh, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.600 that's what I think now if we're looking at uh 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:43.040 surplus trade values, I mean, yeah Arius right now. This 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.040 is not saying Arius is the better player than c. J. Abrams. 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:48.800 You might think you might be looking at the numbers 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:52.080 right now like wow, Arius is already the better player. No, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.760 that's not what it means. It's when you it's the 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.920 surplus Abrams. Yeah, he's gonna give you a lot of 0:13:57.960 --> 0:13:59.959 production over the next couple of years, but it's only 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:05.280 two years and three months, and his salary is going 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.600 to start going up as well as he gets close 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.319 to the free agency. So it's the surplus, not the 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:17.600 evaluation of a player. Arius, he has a lot because 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.840 he is a sixty grade prospect right now, possibly higher 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:27.120 in other organizations out there when it comes to valuing 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.160 a player. So, yeah, he's a really good prospect. Obviously, 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.680 he's a top three Baseball America, top ten on pipeline. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.760 So Fangrafts they have a really good article out there. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.400 If you want to go check it out, just google 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:50.000 Fangraphs scouting Grades. It'll you'll see it. It's like the 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.960 title has like twenty to eighty in it. You'll find it. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:55.880 It'll pop up right there. But it says in there 0:14:56.280 --> 0:15:01.600 that usually, on average, a sixty grade pro usually translates 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:07.520 to a three wins above replacement player. I mean that's average, right, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.800 you know, that's on the average. He could definitely be 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.960 better than a three war player. But when you think 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.480 about you know, eventually, when Arius comes up, you're gonna 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.080 have him for six years. And if you've got a 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.360 three wins above replacement over six years, that's a lot 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.240 of value right there, right one wins above replacement is 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.120 worth around nine to ten million dollars. So if he 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:37.240 gives you three war over six years, well that's a lot. 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:42.240 It's eighteen wins above replacement eighteen times ten. You know 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.560 that's that's worth one hundred and eighty million dollars. It's 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.960 a lot. But then you also factor in that he 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.840 is a prospect. There is risk there, so yeah, that's 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:55.280 going to bring it down to a more digestible number 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.880 like you see in front of the screen. Now, when 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.040 it comes to baseball trade values, Franklin, Arius has the 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:05.240 third highest value among all the prospects. So I believe heyesus. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.920 My day is number one. I'm going blank on who's 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.000 number two. I think Arius is the third most So yeah, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.280 he's gonna have a lot of value. Abrams, you would 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:16.760 only have him for two more years, so that's why 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.360 you're seeing this difference. But for the Nationals, why wouldn't 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.680 you ask for Arius in return? You should, You'd be 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.360 you'd be irresponsible if you didn't. You can say, as 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.720 a Red Sox fan, no way we're giving up Arius. Well, 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.880 the Nationals have every right to ask for him and 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:35.000 even demand him. Abrams is a good player. I think 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:40.320 I think with Netto because he has flaws, he has 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:45.440 more flaws than Abrams. Right, Netto defensively and plate discipline. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.920 Eh right, So like, yeah, you can kind of make 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.200 those arguments like, no, we're not gonna give you Arius. 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.520 You know, we like the good stuff with Neto, but 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.920 there's a few other things that no, we can't do that. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:17:00.120 We'll do Marcella Meyer in some pitching, but for Abrams. Yeah, anyway, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.320 moving on, Yeah, I think you would have to do 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.439 Arius uh in this kind of a deal. And to Bony, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.639 he would absolutely want Arius because he was with the 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.000 Red Sox for years. He's he saw Arius, you know, 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.080 starting up his career there. So yeah, I don't think CJ. 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:22.359 Abrams is the most realistic, but who knows. Like we 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.720 saw with Curtis Mead, things can happen really fast and 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.840 conversations can change quickly. And obviously the Nationals are in 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.840 the playoff hunt, I don't fully expect Abrams to be 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:37.040 on the move. Now again with Netto, We've talked about 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.159 Neto plenty of times. We all know it at this point. 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.040 Guy can He's got good pop, he's got good athleticism. Oh, also, 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.040 you know what, before I get there, I'll say this 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.640 with Abrams, I'm gonna point out one more thing. I'm 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.520 sorry I forgot to mention. I will actually say I 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:59.240 was thinking about this this morning. I do wonder if 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.159 the Reds, if they they are going to go for 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.159 a short stop. I wonder if they would want to 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:06.480 go for one that could go to the top of 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:11.480 the order, that could lead off. They are so bad 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:16.520 out of the leadoff spot looking at the numbers when 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.760 it comes to ops out of the leadoff spot, they 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.840 are dead last in Major League Baseball. They need an 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.480 improvement there. Abrams, with his speed and able to get 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.040 on base, to me, he's like a perfect candidate to 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:33.440 go into that spot. The one knock on Abrams is 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:38.679 his defense. But that's where you look at Story, right, Like, 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:44.560 if Story is going to come back and Abrams is 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:49.120 not good defensively there, you know, second base scouts view 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.000 him as more of a second basement in the future. 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.560 So could you do that? You know, I know, like 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:59.040 you know scout his agent, that's gonna be a thing. No, 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.240 we want to keep him a show because, yeah, we 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.040 want to keep his value up. He's got a big 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.800 payday coming so that's something to think about too. But 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:10.600 scouts across the land do think he is more of 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.400 a second baseman, So like, could you do that there? Story? 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.600 When he comes back, he's at short, Abrams moves over 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.040 to second base and Ivarrius is ready and Story slumping. 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.520 Then Arius give him a shot at short right. So 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.679 something I wanted to mention. I do wonder if a 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.359 lefty bat at the top of the order is going 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.040 to be something that the Red Sox would actually hope 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.320 to get, because you think you just added another right 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.800 handed bat with Mead. If you add another righty bat, 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.960 well you're starting to get a little righty heavy, which 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.840 is interesting because they've been they were getting more towards 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.560 lefty heavy over the last couple of years. Right you 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:51.879 were always looking for this right handed bat. Well, now 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.879 you got one with Mead. If you add another righty, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.760 I mean you got really only a couple of lefties. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.879 You know, you have Williard Duran, you know Masa. So 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:04.840 I don't know something to think about. I wonder if 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.960 they prefer that, you know, a lefty at the top 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.280 of the order with some speed right that fits into 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:18.600 their style. So we'll see, we'll see moving on again 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:23.280 with Netto, We've already talked about him a lot. Yeah, like, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.240 I'm up for it as long as Arius is not included. 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.119 But then again, you go back to the conversation once again, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:34.680 is Neto more of a a better fit at either 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.439 third base or second base? Short? He's had some issues. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.440 He's a playmaker at short. He's athletic, he's going to 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.840 make some nice plays, but consistently he's had some issues. Right, 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.199 He's got he's way in the in the negatives on 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.680 the outs above average. I think his righty back would 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.280 fit perfect Femway Park. He's got that pole swing, he's 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.879 got some pop, he's got speed that fits into the 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.560 aggressive base running style the Red Sox have been implementing. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.800 So yeah, there's a there's arguments for Netto, but not 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:06.960 for Franklin Arius. Here's one guy I actually thought about 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.720 this morning. I've seen this name pop up a little 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:13.119 bit over the last I mean even going back to 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.480 the offseason. I've been seeing this name Otto Lopez with 0:21:16.600 --> 0:21:18.680 the Marlins. Now you might be thinking, well, the Marlins, 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:20.679 I mean they're in the postseason race. Well, the Marlins 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.560 have been dropping games left and right. The Marlins are 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:29.159 free falling right now, would they be open to selling 0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.840 high on Auto Lopez, just like we kind of saw 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.320 with the Nationals with Curtis Mead. Lopez has been a 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.520 good player over the last couple of years, but this 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:41.400 is easily his best season. He's hitting three twenty eight 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.800 eight fifty three ops a, one to thirty one WRC 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.920 plus nine homers forty seven RBIs now if we look 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:55.840 at stackcast taking a look, and he also kind of 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:58.960 fits into kind of what the Red Sox have been 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.160 trying to do with hitters, right they look for those 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:05.320 good floor guys. He makes a lot of contact, he 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.680 doesn't strike out, he doesn't swing and miss. He does 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.960 chase out of the zone, and he does walk a 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.439 good amount, so he is pretty aggressive up there. But 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.080 he does make a lot of contact. He squares up 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.720 the ball well. But the batter ball profile is on 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:21.120 the lower side and the Red Sox so you've been 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:25.480 seeing them implementing more bat speed, trying to get more 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.240 exit v LO out of these guys. He doesn't. He's 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.720 a righty bat. He doesn't pull very much, so that's 0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.280 the one thing he doesn't really fit into. That pull 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.879 air percentage of the Red Sox have been looking for to. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.119 But he's going to give you good speed, he's going 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.400 to give you good defense. And another thing too is 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.200 he has played a lot of second base, he's played 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.240 well at short. But that's a guy that could move over. 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.440 You know again, if you want if Story, if you're 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.439 going to be putting him back at short, I know, 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.880 numbers wise, you'd look at this and be like, oh, 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.480