WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Projecting the 53 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:20.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.759 a Break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.080 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.479 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:39.760 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, am Bar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.040 It is Wednesday, September two, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.320 number seventeen. Welcome to another edition of The Break. We 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.800 are alive. I am from the virtual s WB Mortgage 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:58.560 studios in my home, joined by Nick Eatman, Dave helm 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.920 and Amber Garcia. Nick's at the start to day although 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:04.200 the team's practicing in the afternoon today, camp is now 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.399 over there starting to hit more of a rhythm that 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:08.440 they will hit similar to what they will do in 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.800 the season. But today we gotta show for you guys. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:12.440 We're gonna talk a little bit about some injuries, some 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:14.920 guys that have not been practicing here over the last 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.120 few days. We'll also get to the fifty three man roster. 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.360 Have these guys pinned down for you? What you think 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.280 will happen with the top fifty three And as we 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:23.720 end the show, we will have a little bit of 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:28.000 a ramp cap wrap up of camp with a few 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.200 standout players that these guys have seen throughout the duration 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:38.800 of training camp. How's everybody doing today? Wonderful, good, awesome. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:41.360 Let's jump right in. Let's get into some of these injuries. 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.160 I think the most important one that we probably need 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.800 to talk about is Amari Cooper, although I'm not certain 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.920 that there is an injury to really refer to. Jerry 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.720 Jones talked about it yesterday. Dave, I think you mentioned 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.360 in a tweet that he hadn't been practicing in team 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.280 drills over a few practices. Tell me what Jerry said, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.200 and then kind of what you think about it. Let's 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.880 start with you, Dave. Yeah, I mean, so, you know, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.880 Amari hasn't really done much in a team setting since 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.440 probably last Thursday. It's been about three practices since he 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:16.280 really had a heavy workload. Uh. Jerry Jones said yesterday 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:22.400 morning that it's really more about precaution and monitoring. He mentioned, 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.560 you know, the GPS and the tracking devices that they use. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.320 They thought that Amari had been exerting himself plenty, and 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.520 you know, maybe in the interest of preventing some sort 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.000 of strain. They kind of dialed him back. The thing, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.520 the thing that makes me feel okay about it is 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.679 that you know, he's still doing stuff. You know, he 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.280 suits up every day and he's gone through individual warm 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:49.320 ups and he's gotten a couple you know, routes in 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:52.040 individual drills and stuff like that over the last three 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.000 or four days. You know, it doesn't seem like he's 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.000 drastically injured. Like Jerry said, I think they're just being 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.640 cautious with a guy who has had a history of 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:05.320 lower body injuries. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I saw 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.839 some people on social media that I guess the best 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.800 way to describe it is they were a little bit like, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:13.520 I don't know if I'm buying all of this with 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:17.040 regards to to that. But the way I look at 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:18.920 it is, I think it kind of rides with with 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.919 what we've seen from Lyle Collins too. He didn't really 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.800 have an injury that we were told. It sounded like 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.560 they just kind of wanted to get him to a 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.800 certain place before he started practicing, And I think that 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.359 probably points a little bit to maybe them seeing something 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.960 through what they'd seen in his workouts heading into camp. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.320 Maybe some of the analytics involved. Nick, what are your 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.400 thoughts on that and just kind of haul this plays 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.400 out well. I don't think anything has changed as far 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.200 as the way they're getting players ready to play. McCarthy 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:51.040 might have a different approach than Jason Garrett, but you know, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:56.160 to me, the you know, the trainers, the doctors, they're 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.680 they're the same, and they're going to continue to kind 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.200 of to work these guys where be Lyle or Maury 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:05.440 Cooper or you know, the goal here always is September 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.840 thirteenth against the Rams, So everybody's got a difference, you know, 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:12.440 whether it be an injury, ailment, illness, whatever it is. 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.880 I don't think that the plan is any different than 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:20.120 it was before because you know, the trainers and doctors 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.560 haven't changed really since in twenty five years, thirty years. Really, 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.880 let's go ahead and get to us some of the 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.880 other injuries. Let's talk about the defensive back position. There 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.520 are a number of injuries there. You got Xavier Woods 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.400 that that's been out of practice. I think he left 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:44.120 during the during Cowboys Night on Sunday. You had Chito 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.359 who has been missing a couple of practices. You have 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.520 Jordan Lewis has been out for a little bit. Talk 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.480 to me about how those guys are at this point 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.239 and when they're expected to return. Let's go to you Amber. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.880 What do you have on that. Well, as far as 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:03.800 I've heard, none of them are really major injuries. The 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.720 only thing that concerns me obviously, this is a position 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.000 that was already of need. So it sucks that a 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.160 couple of weeks prior to when we are expecting to 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.800 start the season, that these guys who are veteran guys 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.000 are now struggling with certain injuries. And I'm sure they're 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.839 doing the best to monitor them and be as cautionary 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:28.600 as they that they can be. But as far as 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.760 from what I've heard, these are nothing like major injuries, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.720 so not too concerning, but still something to keep an 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.080 eye on. It's also interesting that you look at a 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.280 guy like Luke Gifford, who is by all accounts trying 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.240 to make this team, a guy that missed a significant 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.160 part last year due to injury. He has also been 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.880 on the injury poor Dave. What do we know about 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:53.839 Luke Gifford. We know that we haven't seen Louke Gifford 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.839 practice in a week or more, and that's actually I 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.800 was going to bring that up about Jordan Lewis too. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.520 I mean, I don't get the feeling that any of 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.640 these are serious injuries, but this is such a shortened 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.719 training camp. I mean, a two week injuries not a 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.279 big deal when training camp is six weeks long. But Jordan, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.520 you know, Jordan went out on like the third day 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:15.599 of practice and he hasn't been back, which you know, 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:18.039 he's a fourth year vetter and he can probably deal 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.320 with that, but it's still not ideal, even more so 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.159 for Luke Gifford. I don't get the feeling that this 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.720 is a super long term injury. But camp is over, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.880 and Luke Gifford hasn't you know, fifty percent of that. 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.760 He hasn't had a chance to show his stuff. I 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.080 wonder if that's going to hurt him because you know, 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.320 this isn't the coaching staff that brought him in that 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.479 was absolutely in love with him last summer. This is 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 a completely different group of guys, and you know the 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:44.760 fact that they haven't been able to see a full 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.280 camp from him, it's it's kind of concerning if I'm 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.320 Luke Gifford in my opinion at least, yeah, and it's 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:55.080 going to be. I assume that's that's one of the positions, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:56.919 and we'll talk a little bit about more when we 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.080 get to the linebacker position. That's one of the positions 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.120 where I feel like it's gonna be tight and trying 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.520 to make the team at the linebacker positions gonna be 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.120 tough because they got a lot of quality players at 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.279 that position, and and we'll talk a little bit more 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:10.920 about that when we get there, of how this might 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.640 affect him. But that's what we're gonna do. Now. We're 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:14.760 gonna jump into the fifty three man roster. The way 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.200 I broke this down is we're gonna go through each position. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.640 We're gonna talk a little bit about the guys that 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:21.880 are there, the guys we know that are for sure, 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.119 and guys that we think are kind of on the bubble, 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:26.560 and let you guys give some opinions about that. We'll 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.880 get to the end of it, and that's when we 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.560 will look back and see, Okay, here's the total number 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.520 of players that we think are for sure, here's what 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.560 we think we've got left, and here the areas where 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:37.120 you can choose from. And then we'll try to figure 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.480 out what those who those last few spots should be. 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.320 Let's start first with the specialists. So I don't think 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.760 there's a ton of questions about who's gonna make the team. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.280 You've got Greg Zerline, you got Chris Jones, you got 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.040 LP Ltdiser. They're all gonna be on the team. I 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.320 do have one question for you guys. I'll start with 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.880 you Nick. What do you think are how comfortable are 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.120 you or what are your feelings right now with regards 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.280 to Chris Jones as a punter, coming off a year 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.720 where he wasn't at his best? What are your thoughts there? 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.520 My thoughts are that he's going to have a different 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.640 coach here and John Fossil who's been really good with 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.800 punters over the years, Don Johnny Hecker, and so I'm 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.440 just thinking that, you know, a change of scenery might 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.880 help with a little bit of philosophy, you know. And 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.520 he's he's a good punter, he's been injured. I think 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.000 he'll he'll get better, you know, this year that he's healthy. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.920 That's kind of the goal for zer Line, that's the 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.240 goal for Chris Jones as well, that then maybe they 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:38.280 can get back to where he was. Sounds good, Yeah, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.880 and that's the tough part is will he be able 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.200 to get back there? But I think going into this season, 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:45.559 the hope is that he can get back to that point. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.920 I think Greg Zerline is another guy that coming off 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:51.440 last year wasn't his best year, but the expectation is 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.240 that he will be better this year. He certainly has 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.640 been stella throughout camp and we'll see how that goes 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.439 as we had into the season. Let's move on to 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.720 the quarterback position. The Cowboys have what we know, They're 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.880 definitely gonna have two people that are quarterbacks that will 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.200 be on this roster, Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton. My question 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.199 for you guys is is this scenario where the Cowboys 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.719 maybe could go short and only carry two, knowing that 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.160 they have two quarterbacks who are highly skilled, who are 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.360 very experienced, and just try to ride with that, versus 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.040 having a third guy on the team. Let's start first 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.800 with you, Aner, what do you think about that? I've 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.960 been going back and forth. Me personally, I think I 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.640 would just keep two. But for the Cowboys, I think 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.320 that they would go ahead and keep de Nucci as well, 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:38.720 especially because even though they say they're gonna come into 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.560 an agreement with Dak prescot and figure out the contract deal. 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.959 You just never know what's gonna happen. And de Nucci 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.600 is a young guy who has had a good camp. 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.760 He's shown some ability, he's shown some good stuff. So 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.480 I don't think they they'll be okay with just letting 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.880 him go. I think that they keep three quarterbacks in 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.800 this scenario. Dave, Yeah. I mean, you know, if we 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.640 had played five free seas and games, we might we 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.880 might have a better idea. You know, if if Denucci 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.600 had been terrible throughout the course of the preseason, maybe 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.320 you you part ways. But I just don't think the 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.360 Cowboys have seen enough. You know, it's it's two and 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.760 a half weeks of practice and no games. They drafted 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.840 the guy, Mike McCarthy obviously really likes him. Mike McCarthy 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:22.679 also has a history of keeping three quarterbacks, and I just, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.719 you know, I'd be pretty surprised if he's not on 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.120 the team. I know, you know, you can protect guys 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.520 on the practice squad this year, at least two of them, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.960 I believe. But they've still got to go through waivers first. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.559 And you know, there were at least a couple other 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.520 teams interested in signing him after the draft. That's why 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.240 the Cowboys picked him. So I'd be pretty surprised if 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:47.000 they cut him. Honestly, Nick, I, you know you don't 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.080 need him, You certainly don't need to keep him. But 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.240 but I understand why they would say that, because they 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:58.480 drafted him for a reason. So I probably would not 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.559 keep him on the roster. I think you need spots 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:08.280 another place. All right, Let's go ahead, move on to 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.440 to the running back position. Cowboys half for sure, Zeke 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.800 Elliott Tony Pollard. So we know that there are two 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:15.400 that are definitely going to be on the roster. The 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.199 question becomes do the Cowboys keep a third running back? 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.880 And also should the Cowboys consider keeping a fullback? And 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.600 should they consider maybe keeping both keeping a third running 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.199 back and a fullback. Let's start first with you, Dave, 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:30.040 Where do you go on that? I just got the two. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.960 To be honest with you, they did it last year. 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.560 You know, Tony and Zeke were the only two backs 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.760 running backs they had Jamazela Wally. Obviously that's not an 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:42.760 option this year, you know, at the risk of getting 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.800 into their scheme and strategy, like we simply have not 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.240 seen them do a lot of stuff with fullbacks at 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.040 this camp. Shwo Alana lou is the only one here, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.200 and the opportunities that he's gotten have been way more 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.480 as a running back than a fullback. You know, ric 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:02.640 o'dowdell and Darius Anderson have had moments, but there's gonna 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:06.200 be a million running backs available on waivers and done 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.199 practice squads after these rosters get cut, So I really 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:17.120 only have the two. Nick Um, I'm gonna keep Rico. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.120 I'm gonna I'm gonna keep him on the team. I 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:24.599 think he's done enough. And then he got then he 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:31.160 got Tony Pollard and of course Zeke. I don't. I 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:32.640 don't think you need a full back because I think 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:37.079 you're gonna have put those tight ends. I don't. I 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.079 definitely would just keep two, especially if i'm keeping another quarterback. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:44.200 So if I'm keeping three quarterbacks, I'm keeping two running 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.319 backs and Zeke. You know, Zeke and Tony Poller. He's 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:49.679 done an amazing job at camp, So I don't think 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:53.800 there's a need for a third one. All right, So 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.720 let's move on to the tight end position. Cowboys have 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.120 three spots that you would assume they're gonna carry. You 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.880 would think Blake job Win, Blake Bell, and I would 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:04.320 think Dalton Schultz is your third guy. I know we 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.280 had to talk last weekend, and I think a couple 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:09.839 of you guys said you wouldn't necessarily completely rule out 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.600 the possibility of Cole Hiccottini making this team. My question 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.120 for you guys is, do you stick with three and 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.400 Hiccotini becomes your third or Schultz, or do you go 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.440 with four and take all four of them. Let's start 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.520 first with you, Nick, I think you can keep four 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.680 tight ends if you don't keep a fullback. Remember he 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:30.000 said they were interchangeable, and so I think Hiccottini has 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:32.080 done enough where you could maybe keep him. I don't 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:34.400 know about going along at running back and tight end, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.720 but the other three guys are solid and they deserve 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:48.800 to make it. Amber I think I would just keep 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.560 I would like to have four, but I would just 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:56.040 probably keep three because honestly, the I like Blake Jarwin, 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:00.240 Blake Bell, I think he's gonna stay. And then out 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.839 of Dalton Schultz and colehat Kutini, I mean they both 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.959 haven't done enough to where I'm like, oh, yes, let 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.040 me keep both of them. I would just take one 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.560 of those two and just keep three and see what 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:17.360 who else is available from other teams. Helman, I honestly, 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:19.800 I think they're either gonna keep four tight ends or 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.800 they're gonna add a running back fullback when this stuff 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.000 gets cut. And that's that's the tough part is, you know, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.120 it's it's almost a guarantee that there will be one 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.320 or two guys on this roster that aren't here. Now, 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.160 you think about how experienced this coaching staff is. You know, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.960 they've been all you know, so many of these coaches 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.640 have spent so much time in the league. There's bound 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.040 to be players they like that are available, you know, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.160 on Saturday and Sunday. But what we're looking at right now, 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.200 if they don't keep three running backs, I wouldn't be 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.880 surprised if they keep a fourth fullback. I think Blake 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.520 Bell and Dalton Schultz can both be in h back 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.760 fullback type of guy. And then you add in Cole 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:59.040 Hiccottini as depth. I don't know that he's gonna make it, 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.760 but I at least want to. Min shouldn't Sean mckun 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.880 as well, the Michigan rookie. He's had moments, for sure, 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.160 and he's a big body guy who can do some 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:10.280 of that blocking stuff. So, like I said, I don't 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:11.760 know if he makes the team, but I think we 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:15.680 should at least mention him all right some more onto 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.400 the wide receiver position, We've got three guys we absolutely 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.200 know we're gonna make this team, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallop 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.960 and Ceedee Lamb. I think most of us agree that 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.240 Noah Brown and Cedric Wilson are gonna be the fourth 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.280 and fifth wide receivers on this team. The question for 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.800 you guys is do the Cowboys keep us sixth and 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:35.920 if so, who do they keep? Out of Intel Bryant, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.200 John Vay Johnson, Devid Smith. Let's start first with you, Nick. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.840 I don't think they go with any I don't I 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.360 won't go with six receivers at all. I'd stick with 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.560 five because I think when you when you're so top 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.760 heavy with the top three that you have, you really 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.440 don't need more than that. You got to back up in. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.720 Cedric Wilson has been really good. You've got a special 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:57.880 teams guy, and Noah Brown, who's also been pretty good 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.920 lately as a receiver. I can't see where a sixth 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:07.320 guy really is needed at this point, all right, Amber, 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.120 I'm going back and forth. I think that they should 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.560 be okay with the fifth guy. Now. I wonder how 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:21.920 concerned they are about Amari Cooper and his whole whatever 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.680 the injury is, even though they say it's just precautionary 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.280 at this point, but I wonder if that plays a 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.400 role into maybe then wanted to keep a sixth guy. 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:33.960 And if they were to keep a six guy, my 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.240 guy would be Devin Smith to add there. All right, 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.080 Dave Age took the words right out of my mouth. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.840 I would love to keep Devin Smith on this team. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.200 I think if something happens to one of the big three, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.880 he's the most logical guy that can step in and 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.480 play out on the boundary. But he also has probably 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.560 the least special team's value. And that's that's the thing is, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.120 can you afford to just have Devin Smith be a 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.520 game day and active until somebody gets hurt? I don't know, 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:08.520 um vent tel Brian his injury is it looked pretty 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.560 bad they said it wasn't. I want to keep an 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.639 eye on that. I mean, if he's healthy enough that 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:15.480 he's not going to miss a ton of time, his 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:18.959 special team's ability is intriguing. He's also you know, he's 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.320 a bigger bodied guy who can probably do some stuff 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:25.080 on the outside. Um, I'm not convinced you need six, 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:28.000 but if they kept six, I would hope it would 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:32.040 be Devin Smith or vent Tel Bryant. Yeah. I like 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.119 Devin Smith. You gotta remember about vent Tel Brian he 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:41.440 could be facing a suspension, so true, it's a good point. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:46.720 Sure what the deal is with him? Yeah, I think 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.520 one of the interesting things here is I like Devin 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.320 Smith a lot, and I think he could add something 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.960 to this team from a depth perspective. But the one 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.880 thing that I keep remembering that that McCarthy said multiple 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.840 times is he needs guys on the team that can 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.760 do multiple things. And so I have a hard time 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.760 thinking that they're going to have a receiver who's gonna 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:09.120 be sixth on their depth chart, presumably that is not 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.080 going to be able to play special teams for them. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.440 I just don't see how that would fit based upon again, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.920 what McCarthy has told us. Now, we'll find out through 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.720 all of this is our first year with this coach. 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.479 We'll find out how much of this is stuff that 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.240 he really believes or stuff that he just says right, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:25.919 But based upon what he said so far, I have 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:28.160 a hard time thinking that Devin gets a shot at 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.119 making this team under those kind of scenarios, unless again, 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.639 they see an opportunity for him to play more on 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:35.879 special teams than maybe what we see. We're gonna go 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.080 and take our first break and we come back. We're 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.520 gonna talk about the offensive line. There are lots of 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.560 conversations to have around that, and then we'll get into 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:43.160 the defense. 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You are why 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:53.680 we fly back to the Break. Welcome back to the 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.840 second segment of the Break. We live from the virtual 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.320 SWBC Mortgage studio at my home. Got Nikki and Dave 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.880 Helm and Amber Garcia. We're talking Cowboys football with you, guys. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.840 We're going through the roster. We're trying to get it 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:07.800 down to fifty three players. Guys have already talked about 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.520 the skill positions on the offensive side of the ball. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.200 We're now going to move to the offensive line. Let's 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:15.720 talk about the offensive tackle position. First. We know for 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.160 sure that Tyrn Smith Lyle Collins will definitely make this team. 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.760 I want to ask you guys this question about cam Irving. Obviously, 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.560 he was brought in here to be the swing tackle, 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.200 so conventional wisdom would would say that he's going to 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.560