WEBVTT - Sneaking into the Corps: Richard Pittman, The One-Eyed Marine

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin.

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<v Speaker 2>A recruiter was scanning a crowd of young men. They

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<v Speaker 2>were at boot camp for the Marine Corps Reserve. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of guys with buzz cuts at the

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<v Speaker 2>start of their training. It was nineteen sixty five and

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<v Speaker 2>the war in Vietnam was starting to heat up. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>knew how long it would last, but they knew they

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<v Speaker 2>needed troops on the ground. So the recruiter looked out

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<v Speaker 2>at these guys and he asked if anyone wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to war.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was the second or third week we

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<v Speaker 3>were there. They called us. Set us, all setting in

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<v Speaker 3>a room, sitting down on it, and they said, everyone who

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<v Speaker 3>would want to be a regular marine, raise your hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Pittman had been waiting for this exact moment. He

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<v Speaker 2>had been told, all you have to do is put

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<v Speaker 2>your pinky in the air, and they'll take you out

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<v Speaker 2>of the reserves and end too battle.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so I stuck my little pinky in air.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittman was twenty tall and strong.

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<v Speaker 2>His friends called him Rick, and he was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys who played a million sports in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Thick head of hair, rosy cheeks. Rick was determined to

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<v Speaker 2>serve on the front lines.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of my scores, I've qualified for seven different fields,

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<v Speaker 3>engineering or communications and some other things. But I said

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be in the infantry. I remember one

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<v Speaker 3>of my child instructors said, you're a strange individual. You

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<v Speaker 3>know where you're going. I said, yes, I do know

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm going, and infantry is what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Pittman was heading to Vietnam, but he shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>even been allowed to raise his hand.

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<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't have gone to war at all. I'm Jr.

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<v Speaker 2>Martinez and this is the Medal of Honor Stories of Courage.

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<v Speaker 1>The Medal of Honor.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the highest military decoration in the United States. It's

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<v Speaker 2>awarded for gallantree and bravery and combat at the risk

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<v Speaker 2>of life, above and beyond the call of duty. Each

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<v Speaker 2>candidate must be approved all the way up the chain

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<v Speaker 2>of command, from the supervisory officer.

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<v Speaker 1>In the field to the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>This show is about those heroes, what they did, what

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<v Speaker 2>it meant, and what their stories tell us about the

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<v Speaker 2>nature of courage and sacrifice. Rick Pittman didn't just go

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<v Speaker 2>to Vietnam. He did something so brave it sounds more

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<v Speaker 2>like a movie like Rambo, but this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is real life.

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said earlier, he shouldn't have even been there.

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<v Speaker 2>According to military rules. He should have been disqualified because

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Pittman was blind in one eye. But this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a story about his eye. It's about a man who

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<v Speaker 2>felt it was his duty, not just as a Marine,

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<v Speaker 2>but as a person to act and nothing, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>nothing was going to hold him back. When Rick Pittman

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<v Speaker 2>got to Vietnam in the summer of nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 2>the war was picking up. He was part of the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth Marines that trained in California, and when they shipped out,

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<v Speaker 2>reporters were there to watch them go.

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<v Speaker 4>Sixty six was a year of new beginnings. This March

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<v Speaker 4>in the Sun had its beginning ten thousand miles away

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<v Speaker 4>at Camp Pendleton, California, where the fifth Marine Division came

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<v Speaker 4>back into being for the first time since.

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<v Speaker 5>World War Two.

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<v Speaker 4>After a few weeks of intensive training, it would soon

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<v Speaker 4>be on its way to Vietnam to support our total

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<v Speaker 4>military effort.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone was still so optimistic about this wore Rick loved

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<v Speaker 2>the training. He was just happy to be in the service.

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<v Speaker 2>Here he is talking about it years later, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean through survival school and jungle training in the Philippines

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<v Speaker 3>and in Okinawa and all that, it was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and by the way, that creaky noise you hear,

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<v Speaker 2>that's his leather jacket covered in military patches even decades later.

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<v Speaker 2>This man is a badass. So training was fun, as

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<v Speaker 2>he says. But when the Marines of Company I came

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<v Speaker 2>ashore in Vietnam, Rick felt things shift.

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<v Speaker 3>Just something hit you. This wasn't fun anymore. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>you were about to go up against an enemy, but

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<v Speaker 3>you couldn't quite comprehend the seriousness of it. But when

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<v Speaker 3>you hit that beach and it ramp drops, it's all business.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the moment that I knew all the fun

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<v Speaker 3>and games, so to speak, was over.

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<v Speaker 2>The man had landed close to the DMZ, the demilitarized

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<v Speaker 2>zone that separated North Vietnam from South Vietnam. The North

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnamese Army or NVA were pushing south, trying to grab

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<v Speaker 2>more territory. The Marines were going to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>something called Operation Hastings.

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<v Speaker 6>Back in May, it became evident that the North Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 6>were building up in this area to the south, to

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<v Speaker 6>the DMZ.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a Major General Lowell, English, who was leading the fight.

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<v Speaker 6>We had reason to believe that there was a division

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<v Speaker 6>command post in this area, and our purpose was to

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<v Speaker 6>find it and to destroy it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the mission to locate the NVA command post wasn't easy.

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<v Speaker 2>On July twenty second, just a few days after they landed,

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<v Speaker 2>Company I faced the enemy in the creek bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight marines died.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't prepared for the consequences of war. It shocked

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<v Speaker 3>me the firsties that we took, and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>the hammer dropping, you know, and people were dying. That

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<v Speaker 3>changes your life from that time forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But Rick still wanted to be there. He felt he

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<v Speaker 2>had no choice morally. That's because of two things. The

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<v Speaker 2>first was John F. Kennedy's inaugural address in nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you've heard of it.

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<v Speaker 5>The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to

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<v Speaker 5>this endeavor, we'll light our country and all who serve it,

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<v Speaker 5>and the glow from that fire can truly light the world.

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<v Speaker 5>And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country

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<v Speaker 5>can do for you, Ask what you can do for

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<v Speaker 5>your country.

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<v Speaker 3>And I heard him say that, ask not what your

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<v Speaker 3>country can do for you, But what you can do

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<v Speaker 3>for your country. That was motivating to me because it

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<v Speaker 3>made sense. That's why I try to join the service,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was doing something for my country.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick had grown up in a housing project in Stockton, California.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the oldest of four kids. His dad left

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<v Speaker 2>the family when Rick was little, and his mom worked

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<v Speaker 2>multiple jobs, barely scraping by. There wasn't any money for

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<v Speaker 2>Rick to go to college. Regardless, he wanted to serve,

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<v Speaker 2>so when he graduated high school in nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 2>he decided, I'll become a Green Beret and he went

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<v Speaker 2>straight to the Army recruiting center.

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<v Speaker 7>Army was the first physical I had taken, and they said,

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<v Speaker 7>you're out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't to see how you're right. I was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shocked.

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<v Speaker 1>This kills me.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Rick was totally blindsided, no pun intended by

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<v Speaker 2>the news that he couldn't see out of his right eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because it never stopped him from doing anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I ever knew that I was blind,

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<v Speaker 3>because I did everything I wanted to do. I played baseball, basketball, football, everything,

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<v Speaker 3>and my mother never said, you know, don't do this

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<v Speaker 3>because you're blinding on so I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the green Berets were out. So he went

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<v Speaker 2>to the Navy, same deal, then the Air Force, then

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<v Speaker 2>the Marines. Nobody would take him. So now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you the second reason Rick was so desperate

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<v Speaker 2>to join the military. He had a brother, Robert, who

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<v Speaker 2>was two years younger than him. They were tight and

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<v Speaker 2>they were super competitive, you know, typical brothers. And in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty five, when Robert graduated, he joined the Marines.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, well, that's it. Because the way I was raised,

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<v Speaker 3>it was my responsibility. I was the older brother. I

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<v Speaker 3>should have been in the service in sixty three, two

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<v Speaker 3>years before him, or a year before him.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Rick wasn't about to let his little brother beat

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<v Speaker 2>him to the punch. So we went back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Marines again and again, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the Marine Corps recruiter so many times.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy just you know, I think he tried to

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<v Speaker 3>get rid of me. He just told me in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty five, he said, let's try the reserve. Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 3>reserves will lower the qualifications during the time of the

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<v Speaker 3>war and you can get in maybe serving a reserve capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said, okay, the recruiter I had also told me.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, well, you know, when you get the boot camp,

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<v Speaker 3>they ask all the reserves who wants to be a

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<v Speaker 3>regular marine, And he says, if you're really set on

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<v Speaker 3>being a regular, you raise your little pinky and you're

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<v Speaker 3>down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Rick had a plan, and then he upped his

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<v Speaker 2>odds just a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>He told this story once to a live audience.

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<v Speaker 7>The final test in those days, before you went into

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<v Speaker 7>the enlistment room was to take an eye test. So

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<v Speaker 7>the examiner told me to cover my right eye and

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<v Speaker 7>read the chart, and they gave you a little paper

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<v Speaker 7>towel you had to cover your eye with. So I

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<v Speaker 7>covered my right eye read the chart, and he said, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>very good, I'll cover the other eye and.

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<v Speaker 3>Read the chart.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I changed hands with the napkin and covered

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<v Speaker 7>my right eye with my left hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And clever Rick made it into the reserves. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he raised his little pinky and got into the core.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and one of the first things he did when

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<v Speaker 2>he got to Vietnam he figured out where Robert was.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out he was stationed close by, so Rick went

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<v Speaker 2>and paid him a brotherly visit.

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<v Speaker 1>When I went back to my Company.

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<v Speaker 7>I asked my first ardant about I had heard about

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<v Speaker 7>an old law that two brothers couldn't be in the

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<v Speaker 7>same combat area at the same time, and he checked

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<v Speaker 7>it out and he got me the information. He wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to know why, and I said, go to my brother's

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<v Speaker 7>back at July and the first Arten basically said not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick got his brother sent back to the States. He

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to serve and he wanted to do it first.

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<v Speaker 2>JFK had asked what Rick could do for his country. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>he was finally doing something. And on July twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick was a part of Operation Hastings, going into the wilderness,

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<v Speaker 2>finding the enemy and learning what it really meant to

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<v Speaker 2>take action. On July twenty fourth, nineteen sixty six, Rick

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<v Speaker 2>Pittman and the rest of Company I woke up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Jungles of Vietnam with a new set of orders.

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<v Speaker 7>We were told were moving up to set up a

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<v Speaker 7>radio relay point for the whole operation because the area

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<v Speaker 7>that wream was mountainous area with several valleys in between,

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<v Speaker 7>and they need a unit to become a radio relay point.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, they would be setting up communications deep

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<v Speaker 2>and territory that the NVA had been whole for weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It was summer and it was hot as they set

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<v Speaker 2>out that morning. Their first challenge was climbing a steep

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<v Speaker 2>hill that led into the wilderness. It was tough going,

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<v Speaker 2>guys scrambling up single file, sometimes on their hands and knees.

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<v Speaker 3>We were supposed to move up this hill to establish

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<v Speaker 3>the radio relay point, and we were just moving up

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<v Speaker 3>a trail. I was the last one in the column.

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<v Speaker 3>I was what they called tailoring Charlie from my squad,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was the last one in the company.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick's job was to guard the rear.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet a sense that NVA soldiers were all around watching

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<v Speaker 2>them make their way into the jungle. Then his squad

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<v Speaker 2>came face to face with three of them.

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<v Speaker 3>We killed one and wounded one and captured one, and

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<v Speaker 3>we reported that, and we just were told to keep

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<v Speaker 3>moving to the front, so we took them with us.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top of the hill was a clearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Below it, on the far side was a jungle trail

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<v Speaker 2>weaving through tall bushes. One by one, the line of

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<v Speaker 2>marines jumped down to follow that path deeper into enemy territory. Suddenly,

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of gunfire echoed through the trees. The front

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<v Speaker 2>of the line had hit an ambush. Dozens of enemy

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers had been hiding and waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>The Marines raced forward to help their brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody took off to the front, and so I, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>only smoked and took off after him. They were kind

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<v Speaker 3>of jumping off the trail that we were on to

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<v Speaker 3>a lower level.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick got to the jump off point ready to follow.

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<v Speaker 2>Then someone caught his eye.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a guy sitting there with the machine gun

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<v Speaker 3>and some ammunition, and I could hear, you know, marines

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<v Speaker 3>calling for more firepower and help.

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<v Speaker 2>That marine with the machine gun wasn't moving, even though

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<v Speaker 2>the guys down the trail needed help.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick couldn't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. I asked him if he was going to

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<v Speaker 3>use it or whatever. He didn't give me an answer,

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<v Speaker 3>So I just took the machine gun from him and

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<v Speaker 3>some ammunition, and then me and a corman started off

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<v Speaker 3>after the rest of their company.

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<v Speaker 2>The two men raced toward the gunfire. A corman is

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<v Speaker 2>a medic, so the guy has called him Doc.

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<v Speaker 3>I told Doc not to move unless I moved first.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go. I'm going to fire, then you

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<v Speaker 3>come up. I don't know exactly what happened. The next

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<v Speaker 3>thing I knew, Doc is over me. He jumped over me,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's going down the trail and he he gets

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<v Speaker 3>hit and he was killed. I took those positions under

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<v Speaker 3>fire that killed him and was able to destroy them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then continued farther on towards the front of the company.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I got up to where the I guess

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<v Speaker 3>the main elements werever just casualties everywhere, wounded and killed,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was firing wherever the fire was coming from.

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<v Speaker 3>I just continued to go forward and marines everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 3>in a prone position, but some of them firing with

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<v Speaker 3>one arm, some of them laying on their sides even

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<v Speaker 3>though they're wounded, and some seriously they're still continuing to fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Rick couldn't stop to help any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to keep pushing to the front where the

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<v Speaker 2>NVA soldiers were concentrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, remember somebody screaming, we need more firepower, and it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out I had the last functioning machine gun.

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<v Speaker 2>He kept shooting and moving forward. Gunfire was coming at

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<v Speaker 2>him from three sides.

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<v Speaker 3>When I got to the where I thought was the

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<v Speaker 3>front of the unit, my gun ran on ammunition. I

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<v Speaker 3>just opened the gun, refed a new belt in it,

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<v Speaker 3>closed it. In my mind at that time, it was

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<v Speaker 3>like the war had just stopped. I don't recall any

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<v Speaker 3>conscious thing. I don't recall any noises, I don't recall

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<v Speaker 3>anything at that time. When I was changing the belt

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<v Speaker 3>in the gun and then I loaded it, I looked

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<v Speaker 3>up and there were North Vietnamese coming right at me.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't even know how many, thirty to

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<v Speaker 3>forty whatever, I know there was a lot. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was like the best way I can explain this, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like we surprised each other. Turns out the lull

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<v Speaker 3>and the fighting was is that. I guess they had

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<v Speaker 3>thought they had either killed or wounded everyone, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were just waiting to see if there was any more

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<v Speaker 3>fire coming, if anybody was moving, or you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what, but they sent maybe a platoon up

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<v Speaker 3>to find out what the hell's going on, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it just boom, I'm there and they're there,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you know, it just started shooting.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the sounds of war instantly went from

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<v Speaker 2>mute to deafening. Shouts and bullets ripped the air. As

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<v Speaker 2>Rick tried to hold off the enemy.

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<v Speaker 3>My machine gun took a couple of rounds and quit fire,

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<v Speaker 3>and I thought that was it. I checked it, and

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<v Speaker 3>I looked up and there was the Vietnamese and I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have a gun, and right almost at my feet

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<v Speaker 3>was an AK forty seven. So I just assumed that

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<v Speaker 3>it was ready to fire, and luckily for me, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I kept firing with the AK forty seven

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<v Speaker 3>until it ran out of ammo. And then I had

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<v Speaker 3>a forty five from somewhere, and I kept shooting the

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<v Speaker 3>forty five and then I was out of ammo.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in case you weren't following along, he shot a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty pound machine gun, then an AK forty seven, then

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<v Speaker 2>a pistol, all while standing in the jungle at the

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<v Speaker 2>front of the line alone, until Rick ran out of ammunition.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an old, damn, what I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 3>now kind of thoughts, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't about to stop, not Rick.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a grenade, and after the explosion, they just left.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know whether they pulled back I killed them

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<v Speaker 3>all or I don't know, you know, they just slept.

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<v Speaker 2>The jungle got a little quieter, and in that silence,

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<v Speaker 2>Rick looked around him.

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<v Speaker 3>Seemed like there were casualties everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a miracle he was still alive. During the firefight,

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<v Speaker 2>his helmet was shot off. The survivors started the grim

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<v Speaker 2>work of dragging the wounded up the trail they needed

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to the top of the hill. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the only place with enough of a clearing for

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<v Speaker 2>a helicopter to land, their only chance to metavac out.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to help wound you guys and get some

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<v Speaker 3>guys out. Our radio man was wounded severely, but he

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<v Speaker 3>begged me not to move him, so I just pulled

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<v Speaker 3>him off the side of the trail and covered him

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<v Speaker 3>up with brush.

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<v Speaker 2>When the helicopters came, they took fire from the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>The choppers couldn't land, so the men dug trenches and

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<v Speaker 2>settled in for the night. It was pouring rain, and

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<v Speaker 2>then suddenly a mortarshell hit the crest of the hill,

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<v Speaker 2>dropping among them wounded. Some got injured, even more others died.

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<v Speaker 2>Dawn came and the choppers tried again. They were able

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<v Speaker 2>to lower cormen to help the wounded. They also dropped

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<v Speaker 2>chainsaws so the survivors could clear space for them. To land,

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<v Speaker 2>and amazingly there was a camera crew recording the rescue.

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<v Speaker 8>Anyway, helicopters it again.

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<v Speaker 3>This time we're on our white side.

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<v Speaker 9>A lot of hell's up here.

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<v Speaker 8>Drop off rout.

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<v Speaker 7>The next day was probably the hardest day because we

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<v Speaker 7>actually were treating our wounded and recovering our dead marines,

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<v Speaker 7>and to see the body bags was.

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<v Speaker 3>The hardest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the survivors settled in for another night they

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<v Speaker 2>would hike back out.

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<v Speaker 1>On July twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 3>When we walked out, there wasn't There wasn't many of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred and thirty Marines had gone up that hill

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<v Speaker 2>two days earlier, only seventy six return. Rick had acted

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<v Speaker 2>with undeniable bravery, but he would never stop wondering if

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<v Speaker 2>he had done enough. Rick finished out his tour in Vietnam.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to stay in the Marines, make a career

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<v Speaker 2>out of it, but there was his bad right eye

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<v Speaker 2>getting in the way again.

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<v Speaker 3>I got an eye infection from a parasite that I

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<v Speaker 3>had brought home from Vietnam, and when the ophtalmologist saw

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<v Speaker 3>my bright eye, he went what we called the Marine

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<v Speaker 3>Corps high and right. Man. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing how long I had been in the

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<v Speaker 3>Marine Corps, where I had been, how long did I

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<v Speaker 3>have left on my enlistment, and that I should have

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<v Speaker 3>never been in the Marine Corps. Well, that was on

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<v Speaker 3>deaf fears, because I knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, Rick knew he was blind in one eye.

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<v Speaker 2>It was even in his official paperwork. By then, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>been promoted, done all the right things. But in the military,

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<v Speaker 2>a rule is a rule, even for a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>stood in the middle of a jungle trail and fought

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<v Speaker 2>to the last bullet.

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<v Speaker 3>They medically discharged me for.

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<v Speaker 7>Being disqualified didn't meet the eye requirement, And so I

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<v Speaker 7>was a tad perturbed by that, and I had some

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<v Speaker 7>choice words with the review board.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing he said made any difference. By then, Rick was

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<v Speaker 2>married to a young woman named Jerry Burke. He had

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<v Speaker 2>met her years before, back when she was still in

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<v Speaker 2>Pigtails hanging out with his sister. They moved his Stockton

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<v Speaker 2>and Rick looked for a new job, but he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>having any luck. Then one day he noticed his car

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<v Speaker 2>was being tailed.

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<v Speaker 3>One afternoon, I was on my way back home and

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<v Speaker 3>I noticed this Marine Corps sedan behind me, And when

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<v Speaker 3>I would turn, it would turn. You know. As I

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<v Speaker 3>was going back to my apartment, I thought, holy socks,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is sixty eight. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>guys going to Canada. I thought, oh my god, these

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<v Speaker 3>people think I'm a deserter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I went all the way home and I went in

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<v Speaker 3>my apartment, and that probably wasn't this fast, but I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>I think my hand was still on the doorknob and

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<v Speaker 3>there was a knock on the door.

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<v Speaker 2>It was three men in uniform. Rick was a polite guy,

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<v Speaker 2>so he invited them in.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, well, what is this about? And they said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to tell you something that you can tell

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<v Speaker 3>no one else except your wife obviously. And then they

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<v Speaker 3>said we're going to be flying you to Washington, Deceit

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<v Speaker 3>to receive the Metal honor. And I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>comprehend for what, you know, I didn't, I had no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>They asked if he wanted them to read the citation

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<v Speaker 1>as proof. He did.

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<v Speaker 3>At first, I had a hard time remember what the

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<v Speaker 3>hell a they talking about. I didn't know if they

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<v Speaker 3>were talking about me or they were talking about somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it turns out it was me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was him. He didn't think he had

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<v Speaker 1>been all that brave.

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<v Speaker 3>Things happened so fast that your training just took over.

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<v Speaker 3>You just, you know, you just react. I just reacted.

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<v Speaker 2>Soon he and Jerry were heading to Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>His mom and his siblings went to even his little brother, Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>who was still in the Marines. Would you have to

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<v Speaker 2>imagine made Rick crazy. President Lyndon B. Johnson welcomed them

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<v Speaker 2>to the White House. The ceremony took place on May fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 8>Sergeant Pittman quickly exchanged his rifle for a machine gun

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<v Speaker 8>and several belts of ammunition, left the relative safety of

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<v Speaker 8>his position, and unhesitatingly rushed forward to aid his comrades.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole time, I just couldn't I couldn't believe it

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<v Speaker 3>was me. I mean, it's you know, their poor kid

0:24:37.661 --> 0:24:39.781
<v Speaker 3>from stock in California stand in front of the President

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<v Speaker 3>of the United States. I guess I was stuttering, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just said, just relax on, this won't take long.

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<v Speaker 9>They will place their names now in a new Hall

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<v Speaker 9>of Heroes as a memorial to all who have earned

0:24:55.821 --> 0:25:01.301
<v Speaker 9>their country's high stowed for courage in combat.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we came back to Stockton, unemployed and back

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<v Speaker 3>to reality.

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<v Speaker 1>After that, he tried to become a police officer.

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<v Speaker 2>That had been another childhood dream, just a different way

0:25:15.101 --> 0:25:18.381
<v Speaker 2>to do something for his country, but he was turned down.

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<v Speaker 2>Why the eye. He was working as a truck driver

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<v Speaker 2>when two other Medal of Honor recipients came knocking on

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<v Speaker 2>his door.

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<v Speaker 7>Colonel Van Winkle and First Stardant Howard Jimmy Hard came

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<v Speaker 7>to my home and said, we heard you'd like to

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<v Speaker 7>go back in the Marine Corps, back.

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<v Speaker 3>On active duty.

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<v Speaker 7>I said, no, I can't because of the eye requirements,

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<v Speaker 7>and they said, well that can change. A month or

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<v Speaker 7>so later, the Commandant of the Marine Corps waved the

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<v Speaker 7>eye requirements for me and I was able to reenlist

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<v Speaker 7>and stay in until October nineteen eighty eight when I retired.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean that's all it took.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the Marines, he worked as a recruiter and

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<v Speaker 2>a military policeman. It's worth noting that very few Medal

0:26:02.581 --> 0:26:06.421
<v Speaker 2>of Honor recipients re enlist, but the Marines felt like

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<v Speaker 2>home to Rick.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, there's nothing better to have done a job

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<v Speaker 3>and to have done it well. The Marine Corps only

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<v Speaker 3>enhanced that. The Marine Corps. They tell you to do something,

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<v Speaker 3>even if it's wrong, but do something. Don't just sit there.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't. To me, you might as well bellinum sighting

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<v Speaker 3>on the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just sit there. It's kind of Rick's motto.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite his medal, he never thought of himself any differently,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not as a hero.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing special about a Medal of Honor recipient. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just Joe Blow, so to speak. We just a guy

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<v Speaker 3>at that sat on the bench during high school, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>never got to start a game, or a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>carried towels, the guy that just sat there in class

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<v Speaker 3>and never voiced an opinion or raised his hand. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just a guy who has a medal, and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>all I am.

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<v Speaker 2>In the fall of nineteen eighty two, the Vietnam War

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial was erected in Washington, DC. Rick Pittman went to

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<v Speaker 2>see it, and that's when he finally realized how many

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<v Speaker 2>men had died in that ambush.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to find out until I went to

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<v Speaker 3>the Vietnam Memorial to the wall, and when I saw

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of names that I knew, and they were

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<v Speaker 3>in my squad, and then the day of the action,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all the names that were right there together

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<v Speaker 3>differentult helped it shocked, just because we were all buddies,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we were all close, and there was a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of cash.

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<v Speaker 2>He was haunted by the feeling that he hadn't done enough,

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<v Speaker 2>but then something happened that helped him see the value

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<v Speaker 2>in what he had been able to do. A friend

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<v Speaker 2>called him and told him to look at the most

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<v Speaker 2>recent issue of leather Neck magazine and.

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<v Speaker 1>A marine from company.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about how Rick had saved his life on

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<v Speaker 2>that jungle trail in nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 3>I always wondered, I have a metal, but did it

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<v Speaker 3>do any good? You know, especially after I saw the

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<v Speaker 3>number of people who had been killed the mound that

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<v Speaker 3>I just always said, you know, what was it worth?

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<v Speaker 3>And then you find out that you know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>worth a lot. A lot of people wouldn't be here,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of families wouldn't be here if not for

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<v Speaker 3>my contribution. So I feel good about that, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>still painful to hear the citation.

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<v Speaker 2>He finally started to feel not exactly worthy, but useful,

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<v Speaker 2>and being useful had always been the point. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he sure wasn't going to sit there like aluminum sighting.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick had four daughters and a lot of grandkids, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were all absolutely devoted to each other. His girl

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<v Speaker 2>saw him as ten feet tall and bulletproof. He was

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<v Speaker 2>their personal hero. He passed away in twenty sixteen at

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<v Speaker 2>the age of seventy one. Rick Pittman believed that you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't just sit there and do nothing, not on the

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<v Speaker 2>battlefield and not in life, no matter what people tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about your abilities, no matter if they think you

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<v Speaker 2>can or not. Rick believed in defending freedom the way

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<v Speaker 2>JFK had envisioned it back in nineteen sixty one. How

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<v Speaker 2>the glow from that fire could truly light the world.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're preserving someone else's freedoms, I think you're preserving

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<v Speaker 3>your own. You're helping to preserve your own.

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<v Speaker 1>To him, it was the point of America.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole thing about this country is freedom. The very

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<v Speaker 3>basic rights that human beings have is what this country's

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<v Speaker 3>all about. I mean, it's so basically we even wrote

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<v Speaker 3>it down in our constitution and in our laws and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It's there. Freedom of the piss, freedom of speech, freedom

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<v Speaker 3>to the symbol freedom. Break down the line, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if we're not careful, we could lose that.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't just sit there, he would tell you protect it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all for listening and supporting our show. Over

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<v Speaker 2>the past year, we've gotten emails from some of you

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<v Speaker 2>sharing great stories of courage. We want to shout out

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa Cavalari's great uncle, Marine John Joseph Kelly. Kelly received

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<v Speaker 2>the Army and Navy Medal of Honor for his actions

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighteen during World War One. He was one

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<v Speaker 2>of seven Kelly brothers, some of whom also served in

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