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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Reunion Podcast, a conversation with former

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Speaker 1: Colts players look back at their career, what they're up

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Speaker 1: to now, and how the Colts played a positive role

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Speaker 2: Welcome again to the Colts Reunion Podcast, our series here

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Speaker 2: on Colts dot Com and the Colts Mobile app, wherever

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Speaker 2: you download your podcast. Great to be with you. I'm

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Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, joined with former Colts wide receiver and Ring

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Speaker 2: of Honor member Bill Brooks. We're inside the Indiana Union

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Speaker 2: Construction Industry radio studio. Colts Reunion is our summer series

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Speaker 2: paying tribute to some of the great players that sacrifice

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Speaker 2: so much for the Indianapolis Colts. We catch up with

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Speaker 2: former Colts greats and talk about their playing days and

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Speaker 2: what the city of Indianapolis means to them. Episode number

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Speaker 2: one featured former Colts tight end Ken Delger. That's available

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Speaker 2: and the Colts Audio Network and joining us today Episode

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Speaker 2: two is former offensive lineman Ryan deam Deem joined the

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Speaker 2: Colts in two thousand and one after a stellar four

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Speaker 2: year career at Northern Illinois. He was drafted in the

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Speaker 2: the Colts, starting in a second season. He played in

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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy three total games for the Colts,

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Speaker 2: including the playoffs, which is tied for the eleventh most

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Speaker 2: games played in the Indianapolis Colts era. Deem spent his

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Speaker 2: entire eleven year career with the Colts and in that

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Speaker 2: time won at least ten games and nine seasons, reached

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Speaker 2: World championship in two thousand and six. He retired in

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Speaker 2: twenty twelve, but still makes Central Indiana his home. Ryan

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Speaker 2: Deem with us. Ryan, thanks so much for the time today.

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Speaker 2: It's great to hear your voice again.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing great, guys, Thanks for having me now.

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Speaker 3: This is fantastic. I enjoy catching up with you guys,

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Speaker 3: and I miss Senior every day.

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Speaker 2: Always a lot going on with the cults here at

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Speaker 2: the complex and certainly miss you. Know your voice, and

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Speaker 2: you know your your personality and your spirit around the

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Speaker 2: complex as well. But let's talk about what you're up

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Speaker 2: to now, the current state of Ryan Deem, if you will.

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Speaker 2: You were always so successful on the field, now you're

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Speaker 2: successful off the field. You're a businessman. Now you're the owner.

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Speaker 2: You're an entrepreneur, and you've been all over the place,

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Speaker 2: from the technology realm the commercial real estate realm. Now

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Speaker 2: you are the owner of Ben Scrub. Ben scrub Clean

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Speaker 2: sanitizes and deodorizes garbage cans. Tell us all about the

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Speaker 2: business and how you got involved with such a great

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Speaker 3: Sure, guys, no, thanks for asking. Yeah, I took a

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Speaker 3: little deviation from the tech world and went completely low

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Speaker 3: been a really cool adventure, you know. To kind of

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Speaker 3: I got involved in some businesses, things that were more

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Speaker 3: to see a technology company grow from literally two guys

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Speaker 3: to see. We ended up selling that business, and in

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Speaker 3: the meantime I was also dabbling in the commercial real

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's a very slow moving world.

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Speaker 3: Great investment opportunities, but I was looking for something a

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Speaker 3: And I saw this idea and this concept of these

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Speaker 3: that is that is clever. You know, there's there's something

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Speaker 2: And everybody needs it because all of our trash stings

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Speaker 2: like the High Heaven. Every every Tuesday for me, I

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Speaker 3: And you'd be shocked. Man, We've we've got clients that

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Speaker 3: we're there every four weeks and it's incredible what they

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Speaker 3: And I thought, man, this is a really clever solution.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's explore this. And uh. I started building my

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got you serve Avon, Brownsburg, Whitestown, Zionsville. You're

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Speaker 2: You know, bathe my trash been all kinds of detergents,

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what we're we're looking into that standing

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Speaker 3: it's just a really clean, neat simple process for our customers.

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Speaker 3: And we just like helping people and that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: I think our clients really appreciate what we do and

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Speaker 3: our level of communication. We've got phenomenal Google reviews, So

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Speaker 3: it's it's really been fulfilling to kind of create something

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Speaker 3: I'm real thrilled with we're that.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's awesome, Ryan, And you talked about team there,

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Speaker 4: and you know, as a biss On now you hear

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Speaker 4: football that can be transferable to business. What have been

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Speaker 3: Right now, I'll tell you my my, My, my team

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Speaker 3: but I tell you there's a reason that they're they're

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Speaker 3: they're great. And uh, you know, my favorite that we

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Speaker 3: detail oriented and everything we do and that's that's not

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Speaker 3: just that Ben scrub that's kind of throughout my life.

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Speaker 3: I've really grasped on to that concept because it's true

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Speaker 2: How often do you get your record nis when you're

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Speaker 3: Well, to be honest with you, I'm not really out,

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Speaker 3: But people still get a kick out of it, and

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Speaker 3: it's it's fun for the drivers. Occasionally people run up

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Speaker 3: this business? They're like, yeah, day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's just a regular, regular good dude.

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Speaker 2: You know that's what I think. People say, that's right,

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Speaker 3: I try to be. I try to be for sure.

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Speaker 3: And then some some of my guys, you know, they

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Speaker 3: in this business. You get mistaken for Adam and Terio

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Not only can you drill a fifty yard field goal,

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's go back to the beginning a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Your story. Born in nearby Roselle, Illinois, not that far

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Speaker 2: from Indianapolis. Attended glen Bard North High School in Carol Streams, Illinois.

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Speaker 2: You are star in the high school football team, but

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Speaker 2: beginning in terms of your youth sports scene, Ryan, how

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Speaker 2: much did your mom and dad your parents kind of

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Speaker 3: never scored a touchdown. My dad wouldn't even give me

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Speaker 3: He said, this is the only thing we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: Do you still think about that to this day? What

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Speaker 3: The end zone. You know, there was a lot of

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Speaker 3: I was close. I saw that ball. It was just

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Speaker 3: go back to my parents, I mean, they just huge,

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Speaker 3: huge role. It supported me all the way through. I

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Speaker 3: can count on probably two hands the number of games

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Speaker 3: I mean that was one hundred and fifty plus games, Wow,

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. That was awesome to get this sport from

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Speaker 3: You know, engineering it affords you so many opportunities. I think,

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Speaker 4: Hey, Ryan, I know when I was in college and

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Speaker 2: So to fast forward a little bit, Ryan, you're drafted

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Speaker 3: It's another another funny story here, I hope not boring

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Speaker 3: Right, So here comes Draft Day. Well, and you know,

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Speaker 4: Now you got through the draft, and now you're about

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Speaker 3: Mostly being terrified. You know, there was just a roller

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Speaker 3: and you know, at first, you're overwhelmed. You don't know,

432
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: you know what this playbook is you know, five inches

433
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 3: thick and holy cow, this is a lot to learn.

434
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: But once you get on the field, you quickly it

435
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 3: kind of goes away. You realize everyone's just just another dude,

436
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 3: and maybe they went to a bigger school or maybe

437
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: they've you know, gotten off to a good start with

438
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: their professional career. But it was it was a pretty

439
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,479
Speaker 3: welcoming place, especially amongst the offensive line. I feel like

440
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 3: that's something we always tried to generate, was having a

441
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: great culture within our offensive line room, and that truly

442
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: just kind of emanated throughout our locker room. Not not

443
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 3: saying we were the only people that had a great culture,

444
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: but had we you know, over my eleven seasons, having

445
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: so many friends and teammates you know kind of come

446
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: and go, you stay in touch with them, and every

447
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 3: single guy would say they would leave and go somewhere

448
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: else to say, it's not the same, and that's not

449
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: something might take for granted.

450
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. So to fast forward in

451
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: your second season, here comes Tony Dungee, who you said

452
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: you still have a lot of admiration for. He comes

453
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 2: in as the head coach and now the Colts are

454
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 2: instantly a winner again. That season, you guys go ten

455
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: and six. You personally you start every game at right

456
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 2: guard that season. Now you're a key part of this

457
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: offense with Peyton Manning at the helm and you're a mainstay.

458
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: So you become again an integral part of this offense

459
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: with Jeff Saturday and Tarret Glenn and Adam Meadows up front.

460
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: How much confidence did you gain from just the playing

461
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: time and the confidence the Colts had in you to

462
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 2: be the starting right guard in protecting one of the

463
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: best players in the game in Peyton Manning at that time.

464
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, And sometimes you kind of look back at

465
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: that and say, man, that was a gamble they took

466
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 3: on me. But just again, you mentioned it the reps,

467
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: the experience that that's truly where you build confidence. That

468
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: is where offensive lines are made, is just in the reps.

469
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: You have to be able to read the person's mind

470
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: next to you. You don't always have time to communicate

471
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: what's happening, whether it's pre snap or in the moment

472
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: during the play. You got to be able to adjust

473
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: and that really really only happens through experience and reps.

474
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: And that's why when you look at offensive lines, you

475
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 3: gotta have consistency. You gotta have guys staying healthy. You know,

476
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: in the past several seasons with the current Colts, you've

477
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: seen some stuff where guys are hurt and it's a

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: little bit of a revolving door and you got guys

479
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 3: in and out. It's really really hard to be successful

480
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: and when you don't have that consistency in the lineup.

481
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: And those guys that were there when I was first

482
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: getting going were great as far as bringing me under

483
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: their wing and making sure that you know, I was

484
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: on the same page and new what we were doing

485
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: and how we were going to attack it.

486
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 4: Now, you talk about the off the line in that group,

487
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: and I've always noticed that when I've played, the off

488
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: the line is usually the closest knick group on the team.

489
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 4: What made your group, you guys, that close knit group

490
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 4: that can go out there and play and play at

491
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 4: a high level in the National Football League.

492
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: You know, I think that is just not uncommon amongst

493
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 3: any football team really, is that the offensive line is

494
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: always kind of the closest to you know, I told

495
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: you before I played twenty five seasons, never scored a touchdown.

496
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of glory in what we do upfront,

497
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: we have to kind of relish in the success of others.

498
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 3: And it is such a team effort up front, you know,

499
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: kind of five guys working as one. I think that

500
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 3: that bonds you. It's the blood, sweat and tears you're

501
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: putting in the all off season. It's the the reps

502
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: together all preseason, and then it's going out and getting

503
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: it done during the regular season and carrying that into

504
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: the playoffs. You know, without each other, we you know,

505
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 3: you're only as strong as your weakest link, right, And

506
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: that's very, very true upfront with the offensive line.

507
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: Ran.

508
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: I know you've been asked this question probably a thousand times,

509
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: so I apologize. Here's one thousand and one. But for

510
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: the sake of this podcast, you know, talking about your

511
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: career in terms of, you know, those early days in

512
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: the early two thousands when you first came in, you

513
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 2: know as a rookie or you know, a second or

514
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: third year player. What did you make of Peyton Manning

515
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: early on in your career. What were those practices like

516
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: how demanding was he and how did he make you better?

517
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean he certainly as sets the bar high.

518
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 3: I don't in my eleven seasons and you know, many

519
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 3: many teammates over the years. I don't think there's ever

520
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: been another one like that. That just the level of

521
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 3: preparation and the just the expectation of greatness. And that's

522
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: like across the board. It's it's not just him, it's

523
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: the receivers, it's the tight ends, it's the running backs,

524
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: and then of course it's the guys upfront protecting him

525
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 3: making sure he can do what he what he needs

526
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: to get done back there. So it's it's just this,

527
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 3: Like I said, the bar was set high. Whether it

528
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: was the extra meetings, the extra film study, the extra reps,

529
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: the the attention to detail, it was there and it

530
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: was consistent. And I certainly don't take that for granted

531
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: because it made us all better. You know, he as

532
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: they say, the kind of the rising tide lifts all ships.

533
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: He certainly he was that tied for all of us.

534
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no doubt that the level of respect

535
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: that everybody had for him there was was absolutely immense.

536
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: But there's that famous clip, you know, NFL films on

537
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: the sideline, Jeff Saturday getting into it with Peyton Manning.

538
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: You know, let's let's run the ball and don't worryorry

539
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: about anything, you just block you just focus on your job.

540
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: I'll focus on my job. How many how many times

541
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: on the sideline did you kind of want to have

542
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: one of those moments that Jeff Saturday had with Peyton

543
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: Manning in that particular instance.

544
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: Well, we all have those moments right the battle, you know,

545
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: whether some didn't go just right, and whether it's you know,

546
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: yourself or somebody else, everyone just wants to win. That

547
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: that's the bottom line. Everyone's competitive, very every single guy

548
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: wants to be perfect, and it's you know, that's just

549
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: not the reality of the game. But yeah, sure, I

550
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: mean there were times where you know, he was really

551
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: good about not hauling you out, maybe on a sack

552
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 3: or you know, him getting rushed or pressured back there,

553
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: but maybe he'd give you that look, maybe maybe that

554
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: that side I wed come your way a little bit,

555
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: and uh, you know it was it was usual though,

556
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: and you know it was our job to keep him

557
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: up right. And if he was upright, there's a pretty

558
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: darn good chance we were going to be successful.

559
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: Now, you talk about being successful, and you guys were

560
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: successful during your time during eleven seasons within and that

561
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: was coach, You had nine ten plus win seasons, you

562
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: guys made a playoff nine times, you guys had seven

563
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: division titles, and you only had two losing seasons during

564
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: your career. How much do you appreciate during that time

565
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 4: that you guys were that great during that span, because,

566
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 4: as you know, not many players can say during their

567
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 4: careers they had those type of stats. As far as

568
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: a team being successful in the National Football League.

569
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, now for sure, I certainly don't take that

570
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: for granted. You know, of course, a lot of hard

571
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: work and time and energy went into that. But you know,

572
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: you got from the top down, our leadership put together

573
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 3: the right pieces. You know, we had the right coach

574
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: in place to kind of guide us through that and

575
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: to the team itself. You know, we we just we're

576
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: highly highly accountable to each other. So the fact that

577
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: we had the success, you know, we shouldn't have, you know,

578
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 3: we expected that. It shouldn't have been shocking. But to

579
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: look back at it and say, wow, you know, over

580
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: the course of uh you know that that time frame,

581
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: winning his team in the NFL during the two thousands

582
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 3: and all the stats and all that, it's it's quite

583
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: impressive to think about because you know, to the common fan,

584
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: they you know, they look at wins and losses, you know,

585
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: over maybe a couple period a couple of year period

586
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: of time, or hey, how was you know, if they

587
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: don't really know, like, oh I was. You know, your

588
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: your career, you know, how long? How long did you play?

589
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: What's the average? And when people understand that the average

590
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: career is really only about three years, uh, to make

591
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: it eleven. And to be at the same team, right

592
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: or the same you know, primarily the same coaching staff

593
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: and coaching style. You know, when Jim Caldwell took over

594
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: for coach Dongee, it was very much the same mantra.

595
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: So to have the same offense, the same quarterback, the

596
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: same you know, core pieces of the offensive line, Like

597
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: you just don't see that. And there's you know, so

598
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 3: many guys that even if they did have a long career,

599
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: they may have bounced around to you know, three, four

600
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: or five different teams and just didn't have that consistency

601
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: that I had. So I certainly don't take that for granted.

602
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: It was a really unique experience for me, even amongst

603
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: all players, to play that long on one team and

604
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: not not to experience too many losing seasons and then

605
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 3: to leave, you know, on my own terms, which again

606
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 3: was it's a rarity in the NFL. Most guys are

607
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: either you know, unfortunately leave under injury or you know,

608
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: someone telling them they're just not good enough anymore. And

609
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: that could be a hard told to swallow. And fortunately

610
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: that twenty eleven season, which wasn't great, you know, Peyton's out,

611
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: we struggle. That was the seventh year of a seven

612
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: year contract that had signed you know, back in two

613
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: thousand and five, and I played it out. I played

614
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 3: out a seven year contract. That's unheard of. Yeah, it

615
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: was really just a unique special experience that again I

616
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: just would never take for granted.

617
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: You talked about the the end of your career just

618
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: then and retiring going into the twenty twelve season. So,

619
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: like you said, your last year was twenty eleven. We

620
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: all remember that season for all the wrong reasons. Obviously,

621
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned Peyton's injury and going two and fourteen and

622
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: all that. Outside of the lack of team success that year,

623
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: was there anything else that contributed to its time to

624
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: kind of hang it out? When did you know? How

625
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: did you know it was it was time to retire?

626
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: It was definitely a lot of factors to you know,

627
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: you look at the physical part of it, and my

628
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: body was starting to tell me it was time. And

629
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: I think the metric for that, for me at least,

630
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 3: was Okay, I played a game on Sunday, Do I

631
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: feel like I can play another game the next Sunday?

632
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: And as you a Bill can probably attest to this,

633
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: as you work through the week, you're like, all right, Mondays,

634
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: you know, are kind of come in run around day.

635
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: That's when you kind of flush the system. Yeah, Tuesday's off,

636
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: Wednesday's you know, Wednesday and Thursday are bangers, and that's

637
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 3: when you're going to go get your practice in. And

638
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: how do you make it through those days? Okay, Now

639
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: by Friday you're feeling pretty good or no, and then

640
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: Saturday walkthrough you're still sore, and there's a pretty good

641
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: chance you're not going to feel too good on Sunday.

642
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 3: And it just becomes this downward spiral and I think

643
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: that's where you see guys get injured. And I think

644
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: I was getting to that point. So from a physical standpoint,

645
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: I I was pretty much there. From a mental standpoint,

646
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: you know, nothing but good experiences. But at the same time,

647
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: you know, eleven years of football. It's football is very structured,

648
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: and it's the same thing kind of over and over

649
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 3: and over. It's a little bit of this groundhog day

650
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: and I was just kind of ready to explore new things.

651
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: At the same time, my wife was pregnant with our twins,

652
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: so I had a lot of things kind of coming

653
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: into alignment. We have that bad season, the team's getting

654
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 3: blown up, you know, Bill Pullian's fired, Caldwell's out, They're

655
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: going to rebuild the team from the ground up. And

656
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this whole thing going my contract's up.

657
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna wash my hands clean, say

658
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 3: I think you would move on? Yeah, and I did.

659
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 3: I got a chance to do that. I sat down

660
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: with Jim Ursay for a few hours and basically he

661
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: kind of gave me the option. He said, you know,

662
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: what do you want to do? And at that point

663
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: I was ready and I that told him, thank you,

664
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: and it's time to move on.

665
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: You know, Ryan, you talk about a team that was

666
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 4: very successful and one of your coaches, your coach position.

667
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 4: Coach is one of the greatest officer line coaches in

668
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 4: the National Football League, and Howard mun I want you

669
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 4: to kind of tell of people what did Howard might

670
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 4: mean to you as a coach for you during your career.

671
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you he knew how to challenge you.

672
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 3: We call them Coach Mud and Grandpa Howard. Different personalities.

673
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: It kind of dependent on what was happening, but there's

674
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: no doubt he was certainly one of the most talented

675
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 3: offensive line coaches maybe in the history of the NFL.

676
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: I think if you'd ask current coaches, there's probably a

677
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: lot of guys who are, you know, maybe disciples of

678
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: the what he did in the way he coached and

679
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: his technique. It was maybe a little bit different than

680
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 3: what was happening at the time with other coaches in

681
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: their styles. But as I think we can look at

682
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: the stats and look at the numbers, I think it

683
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: was pretty effective. You know. We were very very ranked,

684
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: you know, ranked super high as far as least amount

685
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: of sacks. Every year we were in the top three

686
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 3: and usually number one, you know, and a lot of

687
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: people say, well, that's that's Peyton and he's getting rid

688
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 3: of the ball quick. Well yeah, but if not, if

689
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: we're not all on the same page and doing what

690
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: we're supposed to be doing that. That's just not true.

691
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: There were a couple of years I think we actually

692
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: had single digit sacks for the entire season, and most

693
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: years we averaged under one per game, which is pretty

694
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 3: darn low.

695
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

696
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the other end of the spectrum, you know, teams

697
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 3: are letting up seventy eighty sacks a year and we were,

698
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, under fifteen most of the time. So pretty

699
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 3: pretty solid group across the board. But I think it

700
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: had a lot to do with the way we were

701
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 3: coached and our technique and just again the attention to detail.

702
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: We would analyze every single thing that we did. You know,

703
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 3: we'd always say the bill knows this, but the eye

704
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: in the sky never lies. Everything's recorded, and we're watching everything.

705
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: And if you are sitting there telling Howard or the

706
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: rest of your teammates, no, this is what happened, and

707
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: this is this is why I screwed up. And then

708
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: you watch it on film and it's a different STORYCT

709
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: and you got to have the accountability. And I think,

710
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: truly that's that's what builds it is when you sit

711
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: down and watch it, every single thing on film, you

712
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: there's there's no gray area. There's there's no white lies.

713
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,959
Speaker 3: It's it's straight up the truth. And that's what makes

714
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: you better and and that's what builds that trust amongst

715
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: your teammates.

716
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And unfortunately Howard passed away in twenty twenty. And

717
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, he came back in two thousand and nine

718
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: eighteen and was an assistant offensive coach here with the

719
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: Colts for that season. And I don't have to tell

720
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: you Ryan. I mean, he could be he could be

721
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: old school, he could be demanding, certainly unorthodox at times,

722
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: but he was always there, as you mentioned, to get

723
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: the best out of players, and he pushed you guys.

724
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: But in saying that, I've also heard stories from from

725
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday and some other guys that he was a

726
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 2: receptive coach. He wasn't a dictator. It wasn't my way

727
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: or the highway. Just because of my experience is how

728
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: receptive was he in terms of listening to players when

729
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 2: it came to schemes and game plans and how to

730
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: attack great players on the other side of the football.

731
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: How well did he listen to his players to get

732
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: the best out of them, lean into their strengths on game.

733
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: Day if you will, Yeah, no's that's absolutely accurate what

734
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: you're saying. He would certainly do that. He knew what

735
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: we were all capable of, you know, whether it was

736
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: our strengths or weaknesses, and they would definitely tailor, you know,

737
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 3: maybe the way we were in certain plays, or or

738
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 3: our scheme for that week, or if one guy needed

739
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 3: more help than another, depending on who we're facing. We

740
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: were able to do that. He was not. Yes, he

741
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 3: did like his way. Uh, I'm not going to go

742
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: as far as far as saying he was a dictator

743
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: because he wasn't. He would listen to our input, but

744
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 3: there were certain things he wasn't gonna budge on, and

745
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 3: that was mostly technique. He was a drill sergeant for

746
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: technique and it paid though it paid off. All of

747
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: us were always very solid in our technique and form,

748
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: which made us confident to go out and execute. You

749
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: could focus more on the what do I need to do,

750
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: not the how do I need to do it? And

751
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: that what do we need to do part as we

752
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: were just talking about, was somewhat fluid depending on what

753
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: we were going to do that week. So well, yeah,

754
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: I truly, you know, think he was one of the

755
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: best because he was able to do that. He was

756
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: able to be you know, strict in his technique but

757
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: be flexible within his game plan. And you know, he

758
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: would listen to guys like Jeff or me or Tark

759
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: or you know whoever, guys who had experienced had some

760
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: clout with him. Younger guys maybe not right, Yeah, no question.

761
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: I do remember several times in the first couple of

762
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: years just you said old school, and and he was.

763
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: He would dress you down and make you feel like

764
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 3: you're about two inches tall. But it was that break

765
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: you down to build you up mentality that you know,

766
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: most guys could recover from that, and and most guys

767
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: would drive in that environment once they figured him out.

768
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: And then you know, we we saw him evolve over time.

769
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: He was less like that the older he got. You know,

770
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 3: we would go front and say he got soft, but

771
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 3: he he just I think he appreciated the mentality of

772
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: the younger players as he got a little bit older.

773
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: But again, just a legend and would would. I'm just

774
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 3: eternally grateful to have learned underneath him.

775
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: Now, Ryan, you just mentioned the word evolved there, and

776
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: the game has evolved from the time when you played

777
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: till now, how has it evolved in your eyes from

778
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 4: when you played during the two thousands to now in

779
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 4: the two thousand and twenty four, twenty twenty three, the

780
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: games that has evolved since you played, You know, I.

781
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: Think it's I think mobility would be the word I

782
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 3: would use across the board. You know, you don't see

783
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: as many pocket quarterbacks anymore that just drop back and

784
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: stand there. Not that Peyton though, has just stood there,

785
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: but he wasn't the guy who's going to be scrambling around.

786
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: You look at a guy like Anson Richardson. That's a

787
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: different cats. He is, as they say, built differently, and

788
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: the guy is quite impressive as far as his athletic ability.

789
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: So it's just a different style of game where that's

790
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: got to translate to your guys up front. They got

791
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 3: to be able to move. They have to be able

792
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: to adjust on the fly. Because we always knew where

793
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: Peyton was going to be and it was about seven

794
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 3: yards behind us, and if I was blocking my guy,

795
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, if I can at least, you know,

796
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: maintain the composure of the pocket and give him about

797
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: ten yards deep. I was usually ninety nine percent of

798
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: the time pretty safe because I knew right where Peyton

799
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: was going to be and that ball was going to

800
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: be gone, and you know, for maybe four and a

801
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 3: half seconds. And now these game plans kind of play

802
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: to the strengths of the current style of player, and

803
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: they are much more mobile. Quarterbacks are all over the place.

804
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 3: Tight Ends aren't blocking anymore. Tight ends are they're big horses,

805
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 3: but they're getting out there and getting open. And just

806
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 3: the ability of these guys has continued to evolve. And

807
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: quite honestly, I don't know if I'm able to play

808
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: in today's games. Definitely not at forty five years old. No,

809
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: right twenty two, I don't know if that was in

810
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: my skill set. I'm kind of more of a I

811
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: like to know where that quarterback is and I'm going

812
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: to prevent this guy from getting there. And I like

813
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 3: that job. That's nice and easy. When things get complicated

814
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: and you guys are running all over the place, I

815
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: like to think I could do that, but I'm not sure.

816
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't don't sell yourself short. I'm sure you could

817
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: adapt and modify and adjust. That's the type of guy

818
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: and the type of athlete you were up front. Last

819
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: couple of things, Ryan, You've been so gracious with your time.

820
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: But I did want to get into because I did

821
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: go back and read your retirement letter to the Colts,

822
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: which was so well done. But you know, as you

823
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: say there, you started one hundred and fifty of one

824
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty eight career games, You played in two

825
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, gosh darn, you made the playoffs almost every

826
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 2: year of your career. What was the highlight of your career?

827
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 3: Ryan?

828
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: Which I know is a loaded question, but if you could,

829
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, pin it down to you know, one or

830
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: two things, What was the highlight of your career? As

831
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: you said, all eleven seasons here with the Colts.

832
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 3: You know, everyone always asks what's your favorite game? Yeah,

833
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 3: and I think this is probably the same answer. It's

834
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 3: got to be the AFC Championship game against the Patriots.

835
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: That was, you know, hands down one of the greatest comebacks.

836
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: The fact that we did it at home in the

837
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: RCA Dome, our in front of our fans truly made

838
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 3: that special. And just how how ugly that first half was,

839
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: and you know, just having the kind of quintessential Tony

840
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 3: Dungee moment at halftime of like, hey, just do what

841
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: we do? You know, let's just stop being stop being

842
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 3: distracted by what the score is, go out and do

843
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: our jobs. You know it just you saw a team

844
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: just kind of hit the reset button and go out

845
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: and just be focused and be clean. And there were

846
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 3: some crazy moments in that game, with three linemen scoring

847
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: in the game, and I didn't miss catch by Reggie

848
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: where the ball's.

849
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: Covering in the air, Yeah, drops it and recatches it. Yeah.

850
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just unbelievable moments. And to come out on top

851
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: and kind of knock knocking Goliath off their throne was

852
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: just special. And the atmosphere of the stadium after that

853
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: game was just insanity. So super cool. I mean close

854
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: second would be obviously winning the Super Bowl against my

855
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: hometown team, you know, the Bears, growing up being a

856
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: Bears fan, and obviously that changed pretty quickly once I

857
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: was a cult but to face them and the Super Bowl,

858
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: it was pretty pretty darn special too, you know, down

859
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: in Miami parential downpour, and just to have all of

860
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: our family and friends on the field celebrating after that

861
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: game was truly just incredible.

862
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: And this is kind of an off the wall one,

863
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: but you have an interesting perspective because you played in

864
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: both venues. You played in both the RCA Dome and

865
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium towards at the end of your career, Ryan,

866
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 2: what were the differences for you as a player in

867
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: terms of the whole atmosphere.

868
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think we've still a stadium

869
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: is a great, great venue. I really really like it.

870
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: It's really neat just to when you get inside of it.

871
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 3: You know, guys will tell you during the game fields

872
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: the field, right, Yeah, as you're there for warm up,

873
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: so you just walked into the place. It's quite impressive.

874
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 3: And the ceiling is, you know, so high. It just feels,

875
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 3: you know, magnificent, and it's done really well. Now, I

876
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 3: haven't been in any of these like new new stadiums,

877
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: you know, the kind of l A or or the

878
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: Vegas the greaters, but I'd say our still holds up

879
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 3: pretty darn well, uh to to even those newer stadiums.

880
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: It does. It does. Yeah, You're you're spot on that.

881
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: Our fans they bring the noise. Now that our c

882
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 3: Dome was was special in that respect though, because pipedit

883
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 3: noise my butt that I don't know if it was

884
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 3: the maybe that's the study it as an engineer. But

885
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: that's the way the noise echoed in there was just

886
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 3: crazy loud. And the only place I can compare it

887
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: to was Arrowhead because for an outdoor stadium, that place

888
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: that's loud. But I'd say we were right there with it.

889
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: Anti RCA Dome. Now you don't quite get as much

890
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 3: of that in the in Luke Soil, but the atmosphere

891
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: is great. It's a phenomenal building and just really well done. Well.

892
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to ask you know you or or

893
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 2: Jeff's Saturday. This was going back to the early stages

894
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,439
Speaker 2: of your career. Ryan, I'm talking like two thousand and two,

895
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: two thousand and three, two thousand and four. You know

896
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 2: that this is the height of mine, not childhood, but

897
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: the height of my Colts fandom. I'm in high school

898
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: at this time, watching you guys every Sunday and carving

899
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: out three hours, you know, to make sure I watch

900
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: greatness each and every week. But whether it was a

901
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 2: home game or a road game, Ryan Peyton Manning would

902
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: sit there and point and gyrate, you know, behind the

903
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage for all forty seconds of the play clock,

904
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: and he would make you poor guys sit in your

905
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: powerful stance. The entire playclock, the entire duration of it.

906
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 2: Check out the line of scrimmage. How tough was that

907
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: to sit in that stance and to compartmentalize all the

908
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: mental stuff you had to go through with what Peyton

909
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: is saying three feet behind you, hurry up.

910
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: That was the mantra up front, come on, let's go.

911
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 3: You know it. It comes down there that you play

912
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 3: like you practice, and that's how we practice. We never huddled.

913
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 3: We didn't. We were in a We were in a

914
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: no huddle offense almost all the time and except under

915
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: circle you know, special circumstances. But that was that was

916
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: my design, you know, that was to keep the defense

917
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: on their toes. That was to wear the defense out

918
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: to prevent them from substituting. They never knew when we

919
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: were going to snap the ball. And obviously that preparation

920
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: that I spoke to of Peyton, he knew what was happening.

921
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: It was this just ultimate chess match, that match out

922
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: there where we get in a certain formation, they adjust

923
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: to that. We motioned somebody, they adjust to that. Now

924
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: we know exactly what how they're going to play this game. Yeah,

925
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 3: and he knows where the holes are out on the field,

926
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 3: and you know, we just go execute and it got

927
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: truly it was our mindset. Was I mentioned a big

928
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 3: playbook earlier, It really wasn't that big. Our our core plays.

929
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 3: We probably had twelve plays that were just our bread

930
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 3: and butter, and we wanted to be able to execute

931
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: those plays so well that we could literally tell the

932
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: defense what we were going to do and still beat them.

933
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 3: And that that's that's like the highest level of confidence

934
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: you can have, right to be able to tell the

935
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: other team what you're gonna do. And at the same time,

936
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: we could mask it in disguise it, which just gave

937
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: us a better advantage. And we had we had eight

938
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: team back there executing things and yeah, our legs were burning,

939
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: snapped the ball, but we knew he was going to

940
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: put us in the right spot.

941
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 4: Hey, ran early in your career. How hard was it

942
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: to adjust going from college to the pros and then

943
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 4: running that no huddle offense as fast as you guys

944
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 4: ran it with Peyton behind the center.

945
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's again huge learning curve, just a lot

946
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 3: of different things to think about. Yeah, but it became

947
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: second nature, right, It's just all like I said, all

948
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 3: about the reps, all about the experience of having those reps.

949
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: You not only know what your teammates up front are

950
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 3: going to do, but you have a pretty good idea

951
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: what the guy behind you is about to do just

952
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: by looking at the formation. So again, we play like

953
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 3: we practice. We practiced at a high tempo. People would

954
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: ask me all the time, did you guys run a

955
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: lot of sprints to stay in shape? I was like, no,

956
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: we never ran sprints. We didn't do any conditioning. We

957
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 3: just practiced, and we practice hard and we practice fast. Yeah,

958
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: and there's no better way to get in shape of

959
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: football than by doing it that way. And obviously the

960
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: reps carry over to the game. And when you get

961
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: to the games, it's fun. It's like you want to

962
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: be able to turn off the thinking and just go play.

963
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 2: No doubt about that. All right, Ryan, we've taken up

964
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: so much of your time. We're embarking on an hour here,

965
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: so I can't think. I mean, this was just absolutely

966
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 2: incredibly fun. Last one, how do you consume the Colts now?

967
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: I know you're still in town, you know, do you

968
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: watch every Sunday? And what do you make of this

969
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: current team heading in the next season with a lot

970
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: of continuity that they kind of remind me of the

971
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: core of those teams from the mid two thousands, where

972
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: every year you had the same cast of characters coming

973
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: back and running it back. You've got all twenty two

974
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: starters from last year coming back to this year in

975
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

976
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: Well, that's huge. That certainly makes things exciting when you

977
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: got more experience. And I think we're all eager to

978
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 3: see Anthony Richardson get back out there and see what

979
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: he's really made out of and get him through an

980
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 3: entire season and see what kind of numbers he can

981
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: put up. Because the guy is gonna he's gonna do

982
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: some special things. We know that we've strengthened our weapons

983
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: around him with a depth at receiver. You know, a

984
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: running back game is as strong as can be. We've

985
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: got solid tight ends. It's offensively, I think we're in

986
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 3: a really good spot. And clearly we added to the

987
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 3: defense with our first pick. I mean, guess he was

988
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 3: the first defensive player selected, so that's say something he

989
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 3: should be special. I hope he's a difference maker out there.

990
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: But mostly, you know, as far as me and watching

991
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: the Colts, of course, I'm always paying attention. If I'm

992
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: not at the game, I'm watching it on TV, just

993
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: like everybody else usually make it out to you know,

994
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: two three, maybe four games a year. And the cool

995
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: thing is really, over the past several years, we've had

996
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities to get the old gang back together. Yeah,

997
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: that we're celebrating ring them on Yeah, yeah, Yeah. We've

998
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 3: a lot of teammates up there. It's been really fun,

999
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: you know, Jeff Saturday, tur Glenn obviously, Peyton Edre, Marvin Coach, Dungee,

1000
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 3: all these great reasons for guys to get together. And

1001
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: we got another one coming up with Dwight going in

1002
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. That'll be awesome. Just just it's

1003
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: like a reunion every time one of those things happens,

1004
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: and we've had a lot of them, so it's been

1005
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 3: really cool to keep those relationships and those friendships going. Yeah,

1006
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: you know, over the course of many, many years now

1007
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 3: twenty plus years. Wow, it's yeah, pretty.

1008
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 2: Special time flies man. Yeah. I love to hear the

1009
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: fact that you're at so many home games every single season. Man,

1010
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 2: if you ever want to come on the radio or

1011
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: come up to the booth and hang out with us.

1012
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 2: We'd love to have you, man, because obviously you're a

1013
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: great player, still dialed into what the cults are doing

1014
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: living in Central Indiana still and again for this, we

1015
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: can't thank enough for spending some time with us and

1016
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: going down memory lane a little bit and core player

1017
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: from that era of greatness, and you are to be

1018
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 2: remembered accordingly as one of the best offensive linemen in

1019
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: the history of this franchise. So with that, continued success

1020
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 2: with all of the business ventures and everybody, we encourage you.

1021
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 2: If you got a smelly trash, can call this guy.

1022
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 2: He'll fix your problems one one more time, Ryan for

1023
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: Ben Scrub. How can people get a hold of you

1024
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: and get in touch with you, you know, to grab

1025
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Speaker 2: their business.

1026
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 3: Easiest way benscrub dot b I m scrub dot com

1027
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 3: or check us out on social media. I truly appreciate it, guys.

1028
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: This was great, really really enjoyed the conversation and it

1029
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 3: went quickly. I'll tell you. Just touching on all these

1030
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: different topics and taking it all the way back was

1031
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: fun to kind of revisit and walk through. So thank

1032
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: you so much, and I may take you up on that.

1033
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 3: I may may you may join you in the booth

1034
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 3: for a few minutes one of these times and see

1035
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: if we can talk some more football during the game.

1036
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely a please do. We would absolutely love that a

1037
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: pregame show with Bill and the Gang and Touchdown talent

1038
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: just outside the stadium, just outside of South Street or

1039
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: in the booth, whatever you want to do. We would

1040
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: love to have you, Ryan, because you're one of our favorites.

1041
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: Man.

1042
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for doing this, have a great

1043
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: summer coming up. Much appreciated the conversation. We really enjoyed it.

1044
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 2: And again Ben scrub dot com for Ryan Deem for

1045
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 2: all of the greatness sharing some football stories and you

1046
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: can also clean your trash can like it's never been

1047
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: cleaned before. Ryan, Thank you so much, love it.

1048
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, have a great day and look forward to

1049
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: a great season.