WEBVTT - Josh Gregory

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<v Speaker 1>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 1>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I find my ball in a brid egg

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<v Speaker 2>Friday Egg, Frida Egg, Friday, Friday Bride Egg, Lie, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about ready to run off of the course.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we're back for another episode of the Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Egg Podcast, and UH we are happy to welcome our

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<v Speaker 1>esteemed guest this week, Josh Gregory. Josh went back to

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<v Speaker 1>back national championships as the head coach at Augusta State

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<v Speaker 1>and was also more recently the head coach at s

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<v Speaker 1>MU before now UH venturing into the professional golf world,

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<v Speaker 1>where he serves as a coach for players such as

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<v Speaker 1>John Peterson, Kelly Kraft, Henrik Norlander, and some other Web

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<v Speaker 1>guys like Carlos Ortiz. Josh, thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me. I really really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. I think it'd be great if you gave

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit of uh, you know, your your background,

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<v Speaker 1>your story, how you got into golf, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>your playing career and then how you got into coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>I started at a young age. I started. I think

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<v Speaker 2>I've got pictures of me when I was eighteen months

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<v Speaker 2>old with my dad playing. And I was an only child,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was spoiled rotten with love and grew up

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<v Speaker 2>playing every sport you know, kind of know the man

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<v Speaker 2>and and kind of stuff with golf and baseball. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>you know, played h you know, just right around the

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<v Speaker 2>cart with my dad and play play all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And the uh you know, we had a little we

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<v Speaker 2>had a great course that I grew up in the Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 2>a place called one Dyke Country Club, and uh they

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<v Speaker 2>had thirty six holes and man an eighteen home par

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<v Speaker 2>three course. So I could pretty much be dropped off

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<v Speaker 2>and then spend all day out there. And that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I spend every day in my summer. And uh it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the best place in the world as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid to grow up and play go off. And I

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<v Speaker 2>went on to play uh college go off at SMU

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<v Speaker 2>and Dallas, and then played under Hank Haney. Uh he

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<v Speaker 2>was he was our college coach, and and learned learned,

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<v Speaker 2>learned a learned a ton from him about how to

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<v Speaker 2>play the game, learned a ton about work ethic. It's

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<v Speaker 2>probably one of the hardest working, you know, working guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I've I've ever seen in my entire life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>learned a ton about the game, learned a ton about discipline,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, management, UH, swinging, et cetera, et cetera from him,

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<v Speaker 2>and UH tried to play a little bit perfectually after

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<v Speaker 2>that for about two years, and UH quickly realized that

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't good enough. I didn't know. I didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know that the hooter shore and played on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I pretty much finished most of my events on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>So I had a lot of weekends off, which is

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<v Speaker 2>not something good of the profession of the world. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I physically I was probably I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was plenty good enough. I just didn't have the mindset.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have the belief. I didn't have the selfishness,

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<v Speaker 2>quite honestly, to be great. I wasn't about it the

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<v Speaker 2>wrong way. I worked really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of hours trying to perfect technique

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<v Speaker 2>and perfect the golf swing and just doing things that

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<v Speaker 2>weren't very productive or conducive to good play. And UH,

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<v Speaker 2>so I learned a lot about coaching from all my mistakes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew that I quit playing after two years,

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<v Speaker 2>that coaching was the only thing I ever had in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of my mind that that I wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thought I could be pretty good at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Little did I know how hard it was to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Kyle golf coach. I had no idea, uh the

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<v Speaker 2>work that went on behind the scenes, the recruiting, the fundraising, paperwork,

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. I just assumed you showed up a

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<v Speaker 2>practice at one o'clock and tried to help you guys

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<v Speaker 2>get better and and go from there. But uh, fortunately

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<v Speaker 2>I got a great break. I was hired by coach

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<v Speaker 2>Richard psyche Adency stayed as a Hall of famer who's

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<v Speaker 2>retiring this year. The job was open and I interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>and was lucky enough to get it. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>the assistant men of women's golf coach at North Carolina State,

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<v Speaker 2>working for both programs. That kind of started my career,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was so indebted to them to give me

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<v Speaker 2>a chance because had they not taken a chance on

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty four year old and really didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>college what coaching was all about, I would have never

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<v Speaker 2>had that college coaching career I had, and let alone

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<v Speaker 2>being able to do what I'm doing now. But Coach

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<v Speaker 2>Sikes taught me everything about how to treat people. He

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<v Speaker 2>was the best at it. And he said, the best

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<v Speaker 2>thing in the world is being called a coach. The

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<v Speaker 2>best thing in the world is you know, fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years down the road, one of your former players will

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the phone and say, hey, coach, how you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I learned a lot from that mentality. You love

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<v Speaker 2>your players first, You take care of him first. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not afraid to say have I'm trying to become their

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<v Speaker 2>friend first before I became their coach. And whether that's

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<v Speaker 2>right or wrong, that's how my personality works. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the way the best coaches are to get

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<v Speaker 2>their respect as their friend and as their body before

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<v Speaker 2>they can ever ever trust you with how to really

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<v Speaker 2>make make the golf game better. And that was I

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<v Speaker 2>learned that from him, and UH it's kind of been

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<v Speaker 2>my philosophy throughout my coaching careers. Loved your guys first,

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<v Speaker 2>coaching second, and UH that that's and everything else kind

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<v Speaker 2>of falls as fall into place. That was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>after my couple of years in n C State, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to UH was fortunate to get hired at a

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<v Speaker 2>state UH and he got us to Georgia and coached

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<v Speaker 2>there for nine years, had had some had some really

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<v Speaker 2>great players, really uh, really cool plays to coach one

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<v Speaker 2>of the probably a few universities in the world that

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<v Speaker 2>actually gets college golf and college golf actually actually means something.

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<v Speaker 2>It was our It was that we were the only

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<v Speaker 2>Division one sport at that school. It was the Vision

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<v Speaker 2>two school competing and uh Division one. Then the women's golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were fortunate enough to win back to back

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<v Speaker 2>national championships in twenty ten in twenty eleven, and went

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<v Speaker 2>on went on from there to back my mom a

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<v Speaker 2>modern SMU and coached for three years and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilt the program there and got it going. And then

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm out on my own and trying to see

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<v Speaker 2>if I can uh make a bigger difference in the

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<v Speaker 2>game of golf coaching on a full time, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>full full basis. Whether it's the best players in the

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<v Speaker 2>world like Patrick Reid or John Peterson, Kellycraft, or whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's a ten year old kid just trying to get better,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still the same principals apply, and I'm very thankful

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<v Speaker 2>to get to do what I do, uh every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really had a real job. I've gotten to

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<v Speaker 2>coach every day, but because gotten to the golf course

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<v Speaker 2>every day, and now I get to do that all

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<v Speaker 2>day long. Yeah, and I'm very very thankful for it

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to do it a little different way, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just trying to coach and coach the way

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<v Speaker 2>I would want to be coached. So so far it's

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<v Speaker 2>going great, and I'm really lucky to work with a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of cool guys that buy in, and so far

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<v Speaker 2>they're getting a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's uh. I think, you know, from what I

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<v Speaker 1>heard on when I heard you talk earlier and what

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<v Speaker 1>interested me and bringing on, I I'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>more about your approach and how it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>different from you know, the traditional strict instruction approach and

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<v Speaker 1>more of a coaching approach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know, I have the utmost respect for for

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<v Speaker 2>pure instructors. And I've been around I've been fortunate enough

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<v Speaker 2>to be around Butch Harmon. I've seen David Ledbart teach,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen Hank Kaney obviously has been around him a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sticking Who's Here's a you know, top own instructor,

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<v Speaker 2>very close a friend of mine. Brian White guys like that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the world of as as great you know,

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<v Speaker 2>great instructors and Brandy Smith people like that that I've

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<v Speaker 2>been around, learned so much from them, But I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>label myself, you know, as an instructor. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>there is a teaching instruction component to any form of coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>and and there is, you know, some some teaching instruction

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<v Speaker 2>to what I do. Uh, But that's not that's not

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<v Speaker 2>my first love. That's not my first fashion. My coaching

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<v Speaker 2>and figuring out how to make guys better. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that comes with understanding personality first, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where my job begins, coaching to through a relationship. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a relationship with each player you coach,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to understand what drives them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>some kids need to kick the butt, some kids need

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<v Speaker 2>to pad on the back, and you've got to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out You've got to figure out that first. You've got

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what motivates them, what drives them. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's how I always coached. In college. I didn't I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't believe in college golf at the team sport. I

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<v Speaker 2>think coaches you believe in as a team sport and

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<v Speaker 2>listening to the boat because it's not. It's an individual sport.

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<v Speaker 2>It just happens to be wrapped in a team format,

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<v Speaker 2>and I coached individuals. I figured if I got the

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<v Speaker 2>best out of out of each individual, each of my

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine kids on the team, then the team

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<v Speaker 2>and then the team would take care of itself at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day. Yes, you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>a team off the course, and yes you you're the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Chemistry is terribly important, but it really means nothing when

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the golf course. You've got to take care

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<v Speaker 2>of yourself. You got to be selfish, You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be an individual and do what's best for you. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of how I evolved my coaching theory of

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<v Speaker 2>coach coaching each individual to the best best of my ability,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means there's different plans, there's different honestly different

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<v Speaker 2>rules for different kids as well. So carrying that over

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<v Speaker 2>and into my kind of new jobs, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being being a golf coach, a full time golf coach,

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<v Speaker 2>not a college golf coach. I was really I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure quite honestly. I knew there was a

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<v Speaker 2>need for coaching at junior level. I knew there was

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<v Speaker 2>a need for pure coaching. At the collegiate level, I

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<v Speaker 2>knew there was, but I wasn't so certain on the

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<v Speaker 2>professional level. I thought it could work, I really did,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wasn't certain. And I was fortunate enough to

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<v Speaker 2>get a call from Patrick Reid about a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half org or so, and I coached him in college,

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<v Speaker 2>and he called me and wanted me to help him

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<v Speaker 2>out and work with him, and he had some great

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<v Speaker 2>success last year. He went from twenty third in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to seventh, and I think kind of twenty out

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<v Speaker 2>of thirty two events worldwide finished in the top ten.

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<v Speaker 2>So it really validated that that there was a need

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<v Speaker 2>for coaching, and you know, we didn't there were probably

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<v Speaker 2>ninety five percent of what what I did for him

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<v Speaker 2>and what I do with my guys today is is

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<v Speaker 2>practice plans. How to structure your practice, you know, spending

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<v Speaker 2>equal times in all four phases of the game full swing, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>business way, just chipping, chipping, pitching, bunker and then putting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in addition to that, not not spending all

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<v Speaker 2>of your time and technique. You're doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>competitive practice out of one ball work just essentially making

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<v Speaker 2>making making practice fun, making it mean something.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You hear guys say all the time, how how hard

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<v Speaker 2>they work. Well, coach working hard. I'm working hard, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting you better. Well, clearly you're not working

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<v Speaker 2>at it in the best way. You're not working at

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<v Speaker 2>it in an effective way. So it's my job as

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<v Speaker 2>a coach to to figure out what is the most

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<v Speaker 2>effective way for that player. And every player has different plans,

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<v Speaker 2>every player has different ways we go about it. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to make it as simple as possible. You look,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the players strengths and weaknesses. Uh, whether

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<v Speaker 2>I'm met with John Peters, and what does Kelly Kraft

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<v Speaker 2>when we first started working. I mean, you look, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the strengths and weaknesses and and and you

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<v Speaker 2>go from there and you analyze that this you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and it amazed me that, you know, some of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the PGA tour really didn't know where they

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<v Speaker 2>where they ranked in comparison to their peers in some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stats. And and that's my job. My job is,

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<v Speaker 2>as I as I tell them, your job is to

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<v Speaker 2>swing the club. My job is to provide the plan

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<v Speaker 2>provide the pass provide the knowledge for you to to

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<v Speaker 2>get better. And your job is to show up swing

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<v Speaker 2>the club. And that's what I love doing. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the structure of it. I love coaching, the teaching the

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<v Speaker 2>short game. That's probably what it would be my strength

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<v Speaker 2>at the teachers from one hundred and twenty yards and

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<v Speaker 2>end really getting guys to practice in an effective way.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I have different roles for every guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Some guys I'm their swing coach as well. I understand, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the golf swing, I understand it. But my job is

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<v Speaker 2>not to understand everything about Boston. That's not my love

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<v Speaker 2>and my passion. My job is to understand the players

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<v Speaker 2>that I coach, understand their golfswing and understand how to

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<v Speaker 2>get the best out of their golfswing and understand Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I have kind of a simple theory. It's,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we all get so wrapped up in technique

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<v Speaker 2>and learning, you know, trying to fix you know, fix

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<v Speaker 2>fix your shots by technique, technique technique, uh, And I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a little different approach. I try to get

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<v Speaker 2>guys to hit shots to fix technique. I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're hitting, if you're hitting, you know, if you're if

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<v Speaker 2>you're overlooking the golf ball or hitting hitting high drawls

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. The opposite of that would be a low fake.

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<v Speaker 2>So always trying to find the happy medium and learning

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<v Speaker 2>to fix techniques by hitting shots. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very simplistic way of looking at it. Uh. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>so far it's working pretty good for the guys. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>it starts with the relationship. It starts with that trust factor, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and being all and knowing that you know these you

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<v Speaker 2>know the guys. You love your guys, and they know

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<v Speaker 2>you love them, and you're doing everything you can't possible

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<v Speaker 2>to help them get better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's interesting. It's uh, you know, you coach individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>but your job is to work as a team with

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<v Speaker 1>your guys. So I'm kind of curious how with different

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<v Speaker 1>players you adapt, and more specifically different personalities you adapt

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<v Speaker 1>your plans and how you structure of practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you look at the two guys I'm working

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<v Speaker 2>with most exclusively right now, and Kelly Krapton and John Peterson,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're they're they're polar opposite personalities. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>John Peterson is very high strung. Uh, he can be

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<v Speaker 2>a little a little uh, hot on the collar on

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<v Speaker 2>the golf courts, his attitude sometimes get get in the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know with him that I have to be

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<v Speaker 2>pretty hard on uh. There there's times when the I've

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<v Speaker 2>caddy for him a couple of times and when we're

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<v Speaker 2>working together. He he told me from day one, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be hard on me, otherwise this isn't gonna work.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's not necessarily my strength. I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy being the back guy. I don't. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's definitely my weakness. But I know with him that

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<v Speaker 2>if I don't, if I'm not that way with him,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna get the most out of him. And

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<v Speaker 2>you have to be hard on him. You have to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get into face with an attitudes, act acting, acting,

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<v Speaker 2>acting poorly. But you also have to build him up

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<v Speaker 2>when he when he's doing the right things. Uh. You know, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>for an example, is a much more laid back personality,

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<v Speaker 2>extremely talented, uh, extremely aggressive and how he goes about

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<v Speaker 2>playing the game. And I've had to you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't have a real good a real good plan,

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<v Speaker 2>a really good understanding of what he really needed to

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<v Speaker 2>do to work on Uh, he has always had a

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<v Speaker 2>great bloss swing. He does some great work with with

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<v Speaker 2>his with his swing coach, Troy Ditton. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 2>great about.

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<v Speaker 1>What I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I can you know, I have no no ego in

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<v Speaker 2>this deal. Is that does that it means involving a

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<v Speaker 2>swing coach, another coach that is, you know, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here to make the player better and I'm lucky with

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<v Speaker 2>with Kelly that we have. I have a great release

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with Troy Ditton and that he he knows. Quantoski

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the few coaches that that has is

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<v Speaker 2>humble enough to understand that, hey, we're all in this

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<v Speaker 2>to help Kelly get better. And if that means he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing his part and I'm doing my part, then and

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly gets better, then it's a women's situation. There's there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of coaches that would kind of check

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<v Speaker 2>their ego at the door and allow that to happen,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they want to have everybody kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wants to have controlled everything. It's not my deal. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>all in it to help help the player get better,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's me doing it the leader, whether that's involving

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else in the team after it as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more specifically with with Kelly, I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>needs he needed structure, He needed a lot of short

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<v Speaker 2>game help. He was you know his stats where he

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<v Speaker 2>was out bid the top one fifty in almost every

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<v Speaker 2>short game CATE category, and uh, he's slowly improve into

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<v Speaker 2>that and you can see see the results are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to click and finishing twenty twenty first, twenty eighth, twenty seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>and second in his last last four out of five efense. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he need a structure. He needed to be

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<v Speaker 2>told how how good he was. Both he and Gone

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<v Speaker 2>are very similar personalities and that they are not afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>They both have the belief that they can be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best in the world. But but candidly, they

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<v Speaker 2>just didn't have the full game to match up with

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<v Speaker 2>that belief. And now hopefully in helping them develop a

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<v Speaker 2>full game to where there is no weakness in their

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<v Speaker 2>game that can match up with that belief. So when

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<v Speaker 2>they when they're in the Sunday late accident periods, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be afraid. And I think that's showing that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, John's has had the fifteenth and twelfth this

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<v Speaker 2>year and was in the last group at Phoenix, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a big step for him, and Kelly finished second

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<v Speaker 2>last week was a big step for him as well

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of validate the work that we've been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But more importantly, you know, get that confidence that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to feel like, hey, I belong with the best

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So with your guys, they're mostly you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>under thirty, you've got a stable of web guys and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got nor Lander craft Reed who's obviously a world

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<v Speaker 1>class web player. Peterson, would you say that inside one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty yards is where the biggest kind of

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the college and pro game is or how

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<v Speaker 1>how would you compare the two.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's shoot, there's two things that that are

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<v Speaker 2>the difference. I think clear clearly, I would say probably

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<v Speaker 2>three things to be safe there. They're misses off the team.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys on tour you know, very rarely hit it in

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<v Speaker 2>the job, they very rarely hit penalty shots. Guys at

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<v Speaker 2>college golf, you know, they they they're they're missed. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a little bit greater players on tour miss it

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<v Speaker 2>much and much better spots. Uh, there's no doubt there

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<v Speaker 2>wi the wedge play from one hundred and twenty yards

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<v Speaker 2>and end is so much better at the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 2>level than the collegiate level. And then I think the

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<v Speaker 2>final difference if you if you look at if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at that the best putters in the world are

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<v Speaker 2>really good from six to twelve feet almost almost, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's Brad Sedeger, whether it's Patrick Greed, whether it's Jordan's Speed,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's Jason Day last year and maybe the best

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<v Speaker 2>putting year of all time. Uh, they're really good from

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<v Speaker 2>six and twelve feet. They don't three button, they make

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<v Speaker 2>and they make their six to twelve footers. That is

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<v Speaker 2>that is the biggest difference that you know, everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>tour pretty much makes it. You know from thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>and five feet and from fifteen to twenty feet you

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<v Speaker 2>know they're making percentages are pretty similar. But from six

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve feet is where you really see, Uh, the

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<v Speaker 2>brand Senators, the Jordan's piece, those guys of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Greed, the world really separate themselves from the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, a lot of the practice, the practic

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<v Speaker 2>is in the games I do. You know, our are

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<v Speaker 2>based on PGA Tour stats and based on the player

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<v Speaker 2>strengths and weaknesses, and we combine those and develop a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of games and competitions to try to simulate what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to do out on tour. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the guys really enjoy themselves. I mean, that's,

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<v Speaker 2>let's face it. You don't practice to practice, you practice

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to And I'm trying to make practice

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<v Speaker 2>very competitive, to make it very intense. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know we're gonna be out there for three hours. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>really get after it. Let's make it intense. Let's make it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, when you leave, I want you to be

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<v Speaker 2>mentally tired. I want you to be physically tired. I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to be mentally exhausted and say, hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>got something out of today. You know, here are our goals.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was what we accomplished. Here, Here was the stats

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<v Speaker 2>in our games. Here was our wedge proximities as a wholes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's how many parts we made from from six to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve seats. You know, all those things. Let's keep track

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<v Speaker 2>of it, keep a drummer of it. Do things that

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<v Speaker 2>are really you know, tracking your progress so we're not

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<v Speaker 2>just out there putting in the hours. Because everybody works hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody on the PGA tour works hard. There's nobody that's

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<v Speaker 2>out there just to put the talent alone. But instead

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<v Speaker 2>of working hard, let's work effectively. And that's how my

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<v Speaker 2>kind of word I use a lot. My guys probably

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<v Speaker 2>get tired of hearing me say that. But let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>work effectively. I don't care how hard you work, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's work effectively.

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<v Speaker 1>What what are some of your kind of favorite drills

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys do and you know, do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You? You know? Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you usually have a group of guys out there

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<v Speaker 1>practicing for these sessions or you know, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>do if you're working alone with a guy? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's again, it's all it's all related to

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on in their game. I mean, there's still

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<v Speaker 2>there's still several things that are kind of across the

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<v Speaker 2>board that we do. I mean, you know, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>we do a lot. We do a lot, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, on putting, we're doing a lot of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of a lot of putty drills, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>speed drills, you know, with five balls and putting from

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<v Speaker 2>maybe starting to ten feet twenty feet, thirty feet, forty feet,

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<v Speaker 2>fifty feet and always doing something different, randomizing the practice,

0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.399
<v Speaker 2>making sure that uh you know, the only time you

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<v Speaker 2>should ever be hitting the same pot twice candidly is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're doing doing any form of technical work other

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<v Speaker 2>than that every pot ship led, full swing, whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>may be, every shot should be, should be different, because

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<v Speaker 2>that's what you're gonna get on the golf course. Do

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of speed work with five dolls from different distances,

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<v Speaker 2>Do a lot of uh you know, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite games that we do is you

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<v Speaker 2>simply do fifty puts. You do fifty puts from three

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<v Speaker 2>to twelve feet. You do five pots for meat station,

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<v Speaker 2>five spots around the hole, and see how many maysan

0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:32.679
<v Speaker 2>PGA two or ever says you should make thirty two

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<v Speaker 2>out of fifty, uh from from from those fifty pots,

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<v Speaker 2>and and just trying to do that to where it's

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<v Speaker 2>simulating pressure. I mean, you're you know, you start missing,

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<v Speaker 2>if you get a little nervous, you get a little frustrated,

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<v Speaker 2>You got you gotta fight and through it. You kind

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<v Speaker 2>of try to kind of stick it out. So just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's what I'm trying to do with these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>and what I'm trying to coach them to do to

0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:54.760
<v Speaker 2>get and do it when they're on their own. The

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<v Speaker 2>best players in the world do the same things every game.

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<v Speaker 2>And the best, whether it's in business, whether golf. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you write things down, you hold yourself accountable. You do

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<v Speaker 2>the same things over and over. I mean, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>you know. You always hear the stories about how many

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 2>golf balls Bja Seeing had during his prime. He was

0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.040
<v Speaker 2>one of the best bass strikers on tour. Well, he

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.080
<v Speaker 2>did the same drills day in and day out. He

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.360
<v Speaker 2>had alignment ride behind, and he had a glove under

0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>his left arm. He had a water bottle just for

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:22.280
<v Speaker 2>the rider of the golf boss. So he made sure

0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.480
<v Speaker 2>the club was exited on the proper on the proper plane. Well,

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:28.000
<v Speaker 2>that's why he became a great bass riker. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>because he was always searching for any things to get

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<v Speaker 2>the same things over and over. And that's what you know,

0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do with these guys in their practice

0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.600
<v Speaker 2>habits and in there the way they're you know, whether

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 2>it's the way they're swinging the club was or what

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 2>we're doing in our in our chipping, pitching, wedging, probating technique,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be. We're doing the same things over

0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and over and over again with small variations to still

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 2>keep it fun, still keep it fresh. But the best

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.560
<v Speaker 2>do the same things day, day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think. I mean it's like anything what I did.

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I was constantly searching for, searching for, going around in circles,

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think without the right guidance, I think that's

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 2>where the coaching, the coaching element is really is seeing

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<v Speaker 2>some success and seeing that it's needed out there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes, honestly, as a coach or as an instructor,

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to learn to shut up as well. You

0:22:17.160 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 2>have to learn to be quiet and just just let

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 2>your guy go, because I think too many times as

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 2>coaches and instructors were torn and always wanted to feel

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<v Speaker 2>like we're saying something or changing something. And you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to have enough confidence of what you're doing and what

0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.760
<v Speaker 2>the process of what you're doing, and sometimes you just

0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gotta be quiet that if things are good, hey, let's

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:34.800
<v Speaker 2>just go with it, let's play a roll. So I

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 2>told Kelly Craft earlier today, clearly clearly what but what

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.359
<v Speaker 2>he's doing is work. So this is the time. This

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in the time to make changees and search for ways

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.560
<v Speaker 2>to win. This is this is the time to just

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 2>keep doing exactly what we're doing. Monsitor chaing what what's

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 2>going on? And you know what, you're gonna put himself

0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 2>in in that position enough times and hopefully hopefully those

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.440
<v Speaker 2>went went black. It's but it's not the chant time

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.640
<v Speaker 2>to to search for for how to get better because

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.639
<v Speaker 2>clearless work work with John Peterson earlier today, you know,

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>we had a great three hour short game session and

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 2>we literally did the same same girls, same same same

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 2>games that we do almost every time when we when

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.520
<v Speaker 2>we practice, and even do the same things on the road.

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I think that's we're also trying to get

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 2>players to understand that you you practice at home, you

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:24.199
<v Speaker 2>prepare on the road, and then there's a big difference.

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a big difference to that. And then that's that's

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 2>where I think too many guys have been too much

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 2>time practicing on the road in searching for things. And

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<v Speaker 2>suppose that's the time to prepare for the golf course

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 2>or on the golf course, stick to the drill, stick

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 2>to the games that that work for you and go

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<v Speaker 2>from there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. You know, I write a lot about golf

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>courses and architecture, and I'm kind of curious how you

0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>guys go about, you know, kind of breaking down a

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>golf course and developing a strategy for specific holes.

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. Again, it's been on the player.

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>John Peterson is a phenomenal driver ball is one of

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:02.920
<v Speaker 2>the better drivers drivers the ball Tour. So he's gonna

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.440
<v Speaker 2>driver almost at every hole because because that that that's

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:06.040
<v Speaker 2>his strength.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, something that I've worked with with Kelly on

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 2>pretty hard is understanding, Uh, he's a very aggressive player,

0:24:12.680 --> 0:24:15.959
<v Speaker 2>but he sometimes too is too aggressive with the wrong clubs. Uh,

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 2>learning learning that you know from it from one hundred

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 2>and one hundred and twenty yards and n or one

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty yards and then we've got to get

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>so good with all four of his ledges that there's

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.479
<v Speaker 2>not a flag that he can't go at that if

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to shoot those scores, we've got to hit

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>those closes and understanding what you know, getting so good

0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>from all those yards with all with all four of

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 2>his wedges, that he's choosing choosing the club based on

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>what that shot calls for, not what club, but he

0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.200
<v Speaker 2>feels the most comfortable hitting and there's a big difference

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>in that, and so that's that's where, uh, the strategy

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>comes in. And also understanding that with a six iron

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 2>from two hundred yards, you know, average proximity the hole

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>is about thirty to thirty from their four feet on

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.880
<v Speaker 2>the VGA Tour, that hitting the six iron to thirty

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>feet is okay, and it's okay to hit it to

0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:03.639
<v Speaker 2>the fat side of the green, and it's okay just

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 2>to make a nice easy far from there. And that's

0:25:05.840 --> 0:25:09.400
<v Speaker 2>something that he was kind of super aggressive in his game,

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 2>going at too many flags with six irons and quite

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 2>honestly not being aggressive enough with his ledges or not

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>having enough shots with ledges to truly to truly get

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.919
<v Speaker 2>as proximity the whole closer so we can have more

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>chances at Bertie's also now he's you know, both of

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.200
<v Speaker 2>those guys are developing more and more short game, better

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and better short game skills so they can go at

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 2>more flags. Patrick Greed, as good as his short game is,

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>he can go at every flag you want to, because

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the short game is this game is so sound, it's

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 2>so solid that there's not a flag he's not afraid of.

0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.680
<v Speaker 2>But until you get that point to where your short

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 2>game is sound enough, you've got to play little more

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 2>concernis you've got to play at your strings and not

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 2>put yourself in positions that you don't have the shots

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to recover from. So again, cater to each guy's game,

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 2>cater to each guy's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know ability, Yeah, I think you know.

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.639
<v Speaker 2>At that level, overall goals, overall goal is getting to

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>where there is not a weakness in those four physical areas.

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 2>Is a game full swing, wedging, hippy, pitching, bunker and

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 2>putting that there really isn't a weakness if they're sound

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 2>in all areas, so they're not really happen to having

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>to play away from continuing in those areas. But if

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>one area is struggling the other, the others can can

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:17.120
<v Speaker 2>take care of the rest.

0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I imagine inside one hundred and twenty yards for

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.879
<v Speaker 1>these guys that you can't have a bad number and

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>you can't have a shot, you can't hit.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know you always hear, well, I have

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the bad numbers between their numbers whatever it may be.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 2>And there are certain numbers of guys don't like. But uh,

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that's why you work on your wedges from all those

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>different yardages with all three or four of your wedges.

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>So you know, like last week of double the greens

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 2>were so soft, their float from front to back and

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot of back flags. If you didn't have the

0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:49.479
<v Speaker 2>ability to flight in the golf ball and just kind

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>of have it, you know, floating a little bit, you're

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:52.879
<v Speaker 2>going to be ripping it back off the front of

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>other green. So learning to again, learning to choose the

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 2>club based on what the shot requires as opposed to

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>just using the club on which one he feel most

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 2>comfortable with. And that's that's kind of the essential goal there.

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 2>From from and then learning around the greens, learning to

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>chip and pitch with different clubs as well. I mean,

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of cool stories, you know, a

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 2>couple of cool chances this weekend when when Kelly had

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 2>long bunker shots and we've been working on learning to

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>hit fifty twos and fifty six is out of different lies,

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 2>different type types of bunkers, different types of sand, and

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>he was able to execute those shots this weekend when

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>before he would have probably just chosen to sixty three

0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>wedge and hit it to maybe fifteen twenty feet and

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 2>not been able to get up and down and you

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 2>know John Peters the previous week and Phoenix when I

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>was chatting for him, he had had a pitch shot

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>in the seventeenth hole and kind of a dicey pitcho

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and kipped it up there at about eight inches And

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 2>all they said was, coach, all I can think about

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 2>is how many times I've hit this a practice this week?

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 2>And that's you know, that's what you coach for those

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>those moments are pretty cool.

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that had to be awesome with it going on

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the bag as a coach, you know, how how do

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you have to kind of change your approach as as

0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the caddy and you know, being the looper and you know,

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:07.680
<v Speaker 1>as you said earlier, I imagine a lot of times

0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's it's about kind of shutting up and carrying the bag.

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 2>H Yeah, it is. I mean it's I have the

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 2>utmost respect for caddies after doing them, Gosh, I always do,

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:20.800
<v Speaker 2>but I mean more so down it's hard work. It's

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>hard we work to just stay up. Those guys walk fast,

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 2>especially when you're writing buckers and two and whatever. It's tough.

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you do have to flip your role a

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit. You have to kind of uh but still

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 2>I think the best coach, the best caddies in the

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>world would be awesome coaches. I really do, and and

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and the same same thing. You know. That way, the

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>best coach in the world would also be offesome caddies

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>because it's a very similar job. Uh, you forget it,

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it's very similar. So you have to you have to

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>know when to say something. You have to know when

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>to let your player event Uh. You have to also

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>know when to tell them, Hey, it's time to go

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 2>play off, shut up and let's go.

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the key part of being being being

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>a good caddy, a good coach. And I think you know,

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 2>you also have to know when to give, when when

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>too much, when, when when to give information and when

0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 2>not to give information.

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, when when a player has got a green

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 2>light flag and from one hundred and forty five yards

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a perfect wedge, there's not really not a whole

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 2>lot that needs to be said. But when it's two

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred yards to a tuck flag with water on the

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>right and the ridge of the left or whatever it

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>may be, that's what hey, you gotta be You gotta

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 2>be confident off in your delivery to say Hey, hey, bro,

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 2>this is this is a six iron twenty five feet

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 2>left right there, and we're gonna We're gonna too fought

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>into the ball. So I think it's it's a it's

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>a hard deal. I'm learning learning to be a better

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 2>caddy when needed, but uh, it's fun. I think as

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 2>a coach you learn so much more being inside the

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 2>ropes and being there and understand what they're what your

0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>players think, and what they're going through, and you're able

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>to coach them way more effectively after you have that experience.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>And that's why as a coach when I'm on the road,

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I spend a lot of time there Washington Play. I'll

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>never go to a tournament and leave on a Wednesday

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 2>and just unless I just have to. But I'm a

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>big believer in watching guys play, whether it's all weekend

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 2>or whether it's maybe just s Thurshing Friday, because that's

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 2>what I learned the most. You're gonna you get what

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>you see on the range, what you see in practice round.

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>A lot of times it's a lot different than what

0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>you see in the competition. At the end of the day,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 2>my job is to help the shoot the best score

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 2>they possibly can. So if I'm not watching them in

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>competition and not learning helping them learn how to manage

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the courts better learn, you know, evaluate what they're doing

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>right and wrong. But honestly, I'm not doing my job.

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm hired to do is to help to

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>help the shoot the lowest coore possible. So, uh, I

0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 2>think it's extremely important as coaches and structures whatever it

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 2>may be, uh to stick around and watch your guys compete.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>So you got to let us say, did you make

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>any you know, hack caddy moves like you know, did

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you did you get any bad looks?

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, fortune of the caddies I've been with so

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 2>far have all been cool, and I've explained to them

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>on the first team, Look, I don't do this full time.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I love doing I'm gonna do my best and I'll

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.479
<v Speaker 2>try not to screw up, and I'm probably gonna uh

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>stand in the wrong place. I'm probably gonna forget to

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 2>rake their bocker when it's when it's my turn to

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>rake their bunker or whatever it may be. But yeah,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I dropped the bag once, fortunately one in somebody's backs thing.

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I've definitely dropped out with the cover that that's that's

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>normal for me. Usually have a set over under how

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 2>many I'm gonna drop in to day? I didn't race,

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I didn't you know when the confusing part is sometimes

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>when you're supposed to rap rap the other player's bucker

0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 2>or not. Obviously understand I gotta rape mind, but when

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>you gotta rak somebody else's buker. I've messed that one

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>up a couple of times as well. But fortunately no

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 2>no major mistakes that have cost anybody any shots or

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 2>any dirty, dirty looks this yet. And I just try

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>to try to do the best I can. But the

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>caddies out there are cool. So they're they're they're fun

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 2>to hang out with and they're fun. But you learn

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot, You learn a lot about they're good about showing,

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 2>the showing the rookies, Uh what what the heck to do?

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's h They're like a brethren out there. It's uh,

0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious with it being Riviera Week and you know

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>the tenth hole. Just yeah, it's a divisive little part.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>For how do you have guys like Kelly Craft? How

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>how's the strategy different for Patrick Reid compared to Kelly Craft?

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Or is it the same.

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it depends on the whole location. For one,

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it seems to be an Honestly, I've never

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 2>been to Riviera. I'm just obviously watching on TV, and

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 2>it's it seems to be you know, the base on

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 2>the flag, whether whether or not you could go forward

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>or not. But then again it also is is is

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 2>catered to a players play a player style. I mean

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it'd be it'd be hard to take the driver

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>out of a certain players. Players see if that's there,

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 2>if that's their best club, they're bagging to have the

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 2>ReBs of nature. But if also if you've got to

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 2>you've got a player such as Zach Johnson or somebody

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 2>who's whose incredible, incredible within your wedges, and that's the

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>strength of the game. It's like when he won the Masters,

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>he laid up on all on all sixteen par fives

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 2>for the week at one and I'm sure there were

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>numerous times when he hit a fixed of green but

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 2>knew that was strict. It's it's something that you have

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 2>a prime example of a couple of weeks ago, Caddy

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 2>for john we were he had two hundred and forty

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>two yards to the fifteenth hole, at Phoenix the par

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.000
<v Speaker 2>five the kind of the island green, which is sounds

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>like an absolute no brainer to go for it, because

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a pretty big green. You've got more persson around there,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 2>and as good as he hits it, he's going to

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>hit it on land, you know, nine out of ten times.

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>But honestly he did. He didn't have a club forard.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>He carries his foreign about two o eight two ten

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and if you missed the groove loaw, it's going to

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>be in the water short. But he carries his five

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.480
<v Speaker 2>with about two forty and the greens the greens were firm,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 2>and so if he hits that probably goes a long

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>which is going to be almost an impossible pitch. And

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>so we didn't have a club for it, and talked

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 2>him in to lay it up because now he has

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a good enough edge game. Before he wouldn't have had

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>a good enough wedge game. It's still confident up that

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>he could get it up and down, and so we

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 2>laid up with a bussy wedge and then he hit

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 2>a same wedge to sixty seven feet and made the

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>pub for Birdy and and make berdie the kind of

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 2>a different way than he would have ever done it before.

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So again it's playing for your strengths. I think you

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>gotta again you evaluate each player and what's good for them.

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, and and then also looking at the

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 2>whole location. Where's your miss where where it gives you

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the best chance to get up and down? Is this

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 2>a better wedge flag or is this as a green

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>light flag that if we can miss anywhere up you know,

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 2>up around the green, we could still give it up

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.919
<v Speaker 2>and down. And then obviously you go overall by nature,

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I would say, I'm very aggressive as a coach. And

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:31.479
<v Speaker 2>and and that's why I was in college. I wanted

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 2>to let my players play. I wanted to let them

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>sometimes sometimes you have to make mistakes. Sometimes you have

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 2>to make you have to even fail to to learn.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>But you but you better go down slinging. I mean,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>these scores are getting lower and lower, and courtant that

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>can build these courses as big and as long as

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 2>they want to. But it's not checking the scores at Also,

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>you better be pretty aggressive, pretty aggressive in nature and

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>trying to make Berdi's if you're gonna win out there.

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 2>But still it's it's an overall philosophy. And they sound contradictory,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's not. I mean, it's still you know, very

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 2>very boring golf. And you're gonna make Kelly played last

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.879
<v Speaker 2>week shut fifteen under and make only five vogues all week,

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 2>which is which is pretty good in some of those conditions.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just a very boring, simplistic way of trying to

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to map out the golf course and trying to

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>make golf as streuss as stress free as it possibly can.

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>And that goes back to your practice. That goes back

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 2>to your practice and being prepared in all areas of

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:24.839
<v Speaker 2>your game. So there really isn't is the leaks.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>So something you alluded to with John and in the

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>gap with like you know, four iron to five wood,

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel like with the you know, fourteen club limit,

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have either you know, it seems to

0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 1>be you either have less wedges and more long clubs

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have that gap in the long clubs,

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or you have more wedges and you deal with a

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>gap like John has. Like I'm I'm perfect example, I

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>have the I have a three iron and then a

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.720
<v Speaker 1>three would and I just have this gap there. How

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>do you kind of coach that? What what's your overall philosophy.

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Again, it's individualized. I love I love the four wedge

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>system because I think the majority of it you're gonna hit.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna hit way more shots that are in around

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 2>and around the ball. From one hundred and one hundred

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and we'll say, from you know, around the greens to

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 2>fifty to one hundred and thirty yards, then you're gonna

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 2>hit from two hundred and ten to two hundred and

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>forty yards. From two hundred and ten to two hundred

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and forty yards, you may only hit three to four

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 2>shots and around the golf, uh that are here from

0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>that distance. So I think you can get away with

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>halfing a little bit of a gap there because it's

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 2>not needed as much. But you might hit. You might

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:39.320
<v Speaker 2>hit ten to twelve shots, if not more. Uh, from chipping, pitching, chipping, pitching,

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 2>bunker to that fifty to one hundred and twenty yards

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:46.360
<v Speaker 2>kind of distance, wedge distance, wedge around, distance from wedges

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 2>and around. Sorry I can't talk and around the golf.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.799
<v Speaker 2>So to stat say, you know, you should have as

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 2>many clubs uh from that from that yard is as

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>possible as opposed to having so many clubs at the

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>top of your bag that are from two hundred and

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 2>two forty. Now, again that's all structured upon a player. Uh,

0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:05.959
<v Speaker 2>you got a guy that doesn't hit it, that doesn't

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 2>hit it really far, that's not gonna have as many pledges,

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.799
<v Speaker 2>then he might need a couple of extra clubs at

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the top. Obviously having it, you know, for example, in

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 2>John's gap, having a gap from two ten to two

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 2>forty is a little bit too much. I wish we

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 2>could find a way to to probably straight you know,

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>either maybe put it in a three iron or strengthen

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>his four iron a little bit. But he loves the

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>four and so much that it's it's a great club

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 2>for him, and he's very good with that. He needs

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 2>it on a lot of there's a lot of two

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifteen yard par threes on tour, so

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 2>at the club that he really needs. But that gap

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 2>is not great. But at the same time, I would

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.920
<v Speaker 2>rather have the clubs at the bottom, at the bottom

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of the bag. So we're really really condoling our wish.

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 2>So from two hundred to two hundred and ten yards,

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 2>if you make far on the whole, you've done a

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 2>great job. But from one hundred and twenty yards, you

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 2>better be averaging underbar.

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 1>That's a good way to put it. I think there

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>are so many that's one of my complaints with modern

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 1>golf courses, just too many high There are two hundred

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and two and twenty a par three.

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 2>Is so and I think that's the point of really

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>getting guys to understand their stats. And that's when I

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:12.680
<v Speaker 2>when I sit down with them, that's one of my

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>responsibilities is keeping up with their stats and keeping up

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>with what's going well, what's not going what's not going well,

0:38:18.719 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 2>so we can change the practice plans, so we can

0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:22.919
<v Speaker 2>change how we how we're doing things, how we're working

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>on things. So it's it's it's constantly, it's constantly evolving

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 2>on what's going well, with what's not not going well,

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>and understanding getting them to understand that again, thirty and

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:36.040
<v Speaker 2>thirty thirty five feet from two hundred yards is okay.

0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.479
<v Speaker 2>Twenty five feet from under twenty yards is not okay.

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 2>But so it's uh, it's really it's been a really

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>neat experience is to see, uh, you know, I love numbers.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm a stat's guy. I love numbers, and I think

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 2>it's a large part of our game. I wish I

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>would have done more of this when I what I

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 2>tried to play and if I could have, you know,

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>wish somebody when I was twenty twenty two, twenty three

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 2>years of age where grabbed me by the collar and

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>and and and showed me how to practice in a

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>more a more effective wayer and in a better way

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 2>than how I went about it.

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 1>So somebody, you know, without all of the stats like

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of a PGA Tour pro like, how do you approach

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.919
<v Speaker 1>it with like your web dot com guys that don't

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 1>have as detailed and uh you know, advanced statistics.

0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's no fun for me as a coach because

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour does a does a really nice job

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:30.320
<v Speaker 2>of keep its stats and makes my job a lot easier.

0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 2>But with the guys that I work with on the

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>web dot com tour, I mean a lot of it

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 2>is is is asking them to keep to keep them

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>on their own, you know, the ones that I think

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 2>are important, the ones that really helped me. Uh structure,

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, structure there there there practice and knowing what

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>we really need to work on and knowing if we

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.839
<v Speaker 2>need to spend more time and technique or more time

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 2>in the field based practice for whatever it may be,

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 2>so ask them to do it on their own. And

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 2>also just constant communication. I mean, I'm a coach that

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I speak to my guys regularly, whether it's my text

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's my phone, uh, you know, my phone never

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.319
<v Speaker 2>never stops ringing, never stops texting, which is I guess

0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 2>it could the bad thing. I'm kind of an addicted

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 2>to my job and addicted to uh to trying to

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>help guys get better. But I think the communication, just

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>having them, you know, honestly communicate what's really going on

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in their game does because staff don't lie, never don't lie.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 2>You can't hide behind them when I know when whether

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 2>it's been meetium with with with John or Kelly and

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>shows him, hey, you're you're not ranked the top one

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 2>fifty in any short game category well before this year,

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, what do you do? We gotta work with

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 2>this and it's uh, but it's cool to see the

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>results play off. It's cool to see John Peterson this

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 2>year ranked fourth and totally you know, granted it's only

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 2>been seven it's only played in seven events, but he's

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 2>fourth with total scrambling on tour, which it shows as

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Mark is paying off Kelly. The last few weeks, it's

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>been above seventy five percent crammed in each of his

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>weeks that he's had success, so U it shows, it

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 2>shows that it's playing off. But yeah, I sure wish

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 2>the web dot Com Tour with five the way just

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>to keep better to keep better stats. But I understand

0:41:03.160 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 2>what the uh the band power and the lack of

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.440
<v Speaker 2>volunteers that it's hard to do. But just just getting

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 2>my guys to give me the information that I need

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.239
<v Speaker 2>from them, and I don't expect them, uh honestly, I

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 2>don't expect them to come up with the plans. Again,

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 2>their job is between the club, provide me with the information,

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:20.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's my job to set up, set up everything

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 2>else so they can just show up and show up

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 2>to off.

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.439
<v Speaker 1>So of all the guys, whether they're on TGA Tour,

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Web dot Com Tour or if they're in college, like,

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>what's the one guy that you would most want to

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 1>work with that you're not currently working with.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a that's a tough question. I might get might

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.320
<v Speaker 2>get in trouble for answering that one. I mean, gosh,

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>that that that's a tough one. I mean, who wouldn't

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>want to work with Tiger and try to try to

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.120
<v Speaker 2>take on that. I mean, but unfortunately I think it's

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>help is UH is his biggest detriment right now. I mean,

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>there's there's Gosh. I mean that we play with but

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>we played with Bohostler last last week UH in a

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>practice rounding Kelly played with him in the in the

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.120
<v Speaker 2>two rounds, and that kids really impressive and it has

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 2>an absolute ton up ton of ton of upside and

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 2>be pretty pretty cool to UH. I don't know who

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 2>his coach is and not, but whoever it is is

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.879
<v Speaker 2>obviously doing doing an incredible job because he's UH, He's

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>he's pretty impressive. So I don't have anybody out there,

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, there's I'm I'm confident enough and I

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 2>feel like I can help. I can help guys get better.

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 2>But I'm so happy with the guys that I work

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 2>with and love love to work with them. And as

0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 2>I've told everybody, I'm not looking for players. I look

0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.279
<v Speaker 2>to make it, make the ones I have better. UH

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 2>If if helping the guys I have have success and

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>and helping them get better at least to more guys,

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and then I'll be thankful for the opportunity, but to

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 2>name one guy, gosh, I don't know, it's it's pretty cool.

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Just I'm so thankful and lucky that I get to

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 2>be around the best players in the world. I been

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>playing practice around with George Speed last week. Was pretty

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 2>awesome and the thickest brain see him. I mean the

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>experiences I have with agree and and seeing one of

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 2>the best best players in the world do his thing,

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 2>and and and you know, I know he learned from me,

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 2>but I learned just as much to learn just as

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>much from him. Uh. But so that's uh, you know,

0:43:12.160 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 2>being around Bubba Watson last year, simon watching him hit shots.

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>If you think that I never thought were unmatchable. Uh

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 2>was a golf ball. I mean the amount of curve

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>he could go on the golf balls. Pretty cool, he

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>would He would be a fun one to to be

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>around just because of his ability, Uh, how he how

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 2>he hit shots, how he thinks would be pretty cool.

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>But now just to just to be around those guys

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 2>as awesome. I still get amazed every time I walk

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>up and down the range. How lucky I am to

0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 2>get to what to get to do, what I get

0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 2>to do, Whether it's sitting and watching watching Zach Johnson

0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>at Wedges, whether it's watching Adam Scott sitting the golf club,

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 2>whether it's watching you know, Patrick Greed hits a golf ball,

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 2>whether it's watching Jordan Speed and pot of me. Those

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>are pretty cool experiences. This guy I would never go

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>to my wildest dreams. I would never thought I ever

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>win two national championships, and I darn shirt never thought

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I would be sitting the ranks with the best players

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 2>in the world and being able to help some of

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:05.720
<v Speaker 2>them try to win PGA Tour events. And I'm thankful,

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.760
<v Speaker 2>thankful to get to do it every day, and hopefully

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:11.399
<v Speaker 2>it's going to keep helping my guys better get better,

0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully then they can win a few events and

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I have awesome careers. See what happens.

0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you coached Bryson in college and I'm fascinated

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.640
<v Speaker 1>by Dishambo. I think I think his sponsors don't do

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 1>him well because, you know, anything he's trying, they kind

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of turn into a product. But like in general, I,

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, always trying to get better, and I'm I'm

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>fascinated to hear a little bit about what it was

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like to coach a guy like that.

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of the coolest experiences of my life.

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:50.239
<v Speaker 2>It was very challenging. He was he was tough to

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 2>coach because it was so kind of different in polar

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Opson than anybody else I've ever been around, and polar

0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 2>ops of my personality. But I think it was a

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>good It was a good a good fit. He gave

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>me a really neat compliment when he when he signed

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and chose to come to some U and he had

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>some great, great opportunities which Stanford looked at UCLA, looked

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 2>at Org, and look at a few other places for

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>programs that were that were much better than us. When

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>when I first took over the job, and I'll never

0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>forget to ask him, I said, why did you choose us?

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Why didn't you choose that SMU? Why don't you want

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.360
<v Speaker 2>me to be your coach? And uh, he gave a

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 2>great response. He just said, you you were the only

0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>coach that would let me be me, which was a

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:29.799
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool compliment. I wasn't gonna he knew I wasn't

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna try to change. He knew I was gonna try

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 2>to make him better and I was gonna challenge him uh,

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>to get better and to see things sometimes in a

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>different light. But I wasn't going to try to change

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 2>the person he is. I mean, he's he's he's a scientists,

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>the physicist, he's uh, he's uh, the ultimate, the ultimate,

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I guess, mechanical. On the golf course, he's he's a robot.

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:53.839
<v Speaker 2>He's trying trying to find perfection at all times. Uh.

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:55.960
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean that he still doesn't have feel

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 2>and doesn't have knowledge of how to play the game.

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's where, you know, is the combination

0:46:01.080 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 2>of his ability to swing the golf club and understanding

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>what he does and his belief. What I learned from

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 2>him the most is what he believes in his way,

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:12.280
<v Speaker 2>probably more than anybody I've ever seen, and doesn't necessarily

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.360
<v Speaker 2>think it's it's right or wrong for anybody else. That

0:46:14.480 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>knows it's right for him. And I think our combination

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 2>of me challenging him to try different shots, to learn

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>how to practice it in a different way, to do

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.400
<v Speaker 2>some other things, really really worked well. And he's going

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:26.759
<v Speaker 2>to figure it out. I know he's going to a

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a little bit of a rough time

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 2>right now. But what twenty three year old doesn't have

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 2>some struggles on the PGA tour. I mean, this is

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 2>all new, this is all new to him. It's it's

0:46:36.400 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 2>new cities, it's new golf courses, it's new Uh, it's

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a tough deal. It's not as easy as

0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 2>as people think. And the kids terribly talented, and he

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 2>will figure it out because there's nobody that can outwork him.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>And I think hopefully over time, you'll keep continue to

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 2>evolve and and and and listen to some of those

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 2>that are you know, guys out on tour that have

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 2>some experiences that he doesn't have, and and combine his

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.880
<v Speaker 2>his knowledge of the game with some other knowledges of

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of how to play the game and get a

0:47:02.600 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 2>better understanding of the things that have worked for some

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>guys that have had had a ton of success. And

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>I think, uh, people do that over time, and when

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.879
<v Speaker 2>he does, uh, he can he can be uh an

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.840
<v Speaker 2>incredible player. But I love the fact that he's not afraid,

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 2>not afraid to try things, not afraid to try to

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, the fact that he's putting you know, face

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 2>on the fact that he's got all the clubs the

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 2>same link. I mean, whether it's right or wrong. I mean,

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 2>you gotta get the kid credit for trying it.

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:29.280
<v Speaker 2>And and he'll at some point he's as he's always

0:47:29.280 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 2>told me when there was a couple of times when

0:47:32.560 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>we talked about going to shorter wedges, because you know,

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 2>it seems odd that you're hitting hitting wedges with the

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 2>link of a seminar. You would think you would be

0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 2>better with shorter wedges. But and he would talk about it,

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 2>and he would always kind of come back to me

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and say, coach, I'm gonna figure it out. And and

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 2>and he did figure it out. And he's developed and

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>having a uh become a very you have a very

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 2>nice short game with what's something that looks very very unnocks.

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.439
<v Speaker 2>So uh, he he's a special kid. And hopefully he'll,

0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:58.840
<v Speaker 2>uh he'll he'll keep getting better. He's gonna keep maturing,

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna keep growing up, keep understanding what it takes for

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.600
<v Speaker 2>him to be great, and he will will figure out

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 2>over time. So easy to be just fun. You don't.

0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 2>You don't get to a point where you're when the

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>n T a championship, when the US Amateur you know,

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>tied for the Leason and and the masters. Uh, he's

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:16.680
<v Speaker 2>He's got a ton of belief in a ton of game,

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's just gonna take just takes a lot of

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>reps out there and a lot of getting comfortable hard

0:48:21.480 --> 0:48:21.799
<v Speaker 2>out there.

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think he Uh, I think he'll play actually

0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>well this week. I think he is built for courses

0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:33.839
<v Speaker 1>that require a little bit more thought, more strategy too,

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>rather than you know, the bombing gouge stuff. So what,

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 1>what's the craziest theory that he ever came to you with?

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Were there any you know, like you hear about bones

0:48:46.719 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>having a veto for Phil when Phil has, you know,

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>some crazy idea of a shot he's gonna pull off.

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Did you know, were there any ideas that you had

0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:56.240
<v Speaker 1>to just hard veto.

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I ever get gave him, gave him

0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 2>a heart beat up because I knew, I knew I

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 2>would lose his respect and as his coach if I

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:09.240
<v Speaker 2>ever did let him try it and kind of figure

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:12.240
<v Speaker 2>it out on himself. Uh, he did ask some weird theories.

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, the the face on putting he's talked

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:17.800
<v Speaker 2>about for a long time. He's always said that he

0:49:18.000 --> 0:49:19.560
<v Speaker 2>that he was going to going to put that way,

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and I kind of looked at him like he was crazy,

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time that I know him well

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.560
<v Speaker 2>enough that that if it will either one work or

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.319
<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't work, he'll be smart enough to figure

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 2>out that it doesn't work and he'll go back to

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:34.840
<v Speaker 2>to to putty conventional. But there were a few stories.

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he he would, he would. The very first

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:39.839
<v Speaker 2>time we were at a tournament, he wanted he wanted

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 2>me to start. He asked me to stop at the

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.759
<v Speaker 2>store and he needed to get some EPs salts, uh

0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 2>because he needed and asked, what are you talking about.

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if that salt was. He wanted

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to test all of his golf balls to make I

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 2>think it's to find where the center point of the

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 2>golf balls and to make sure they're properly centered or something.

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't even explain it properly, but he would. He

0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>would know how to explained it much better than I do,

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.680
<v Speaker 2>and I than I do. But he gets him in

0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the water every night before he plays to try to

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 2>find out what which golf balls are the right ones

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:09.759
<v Speaker 2>to use. So uh, but you know what, that's that's

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 2>what he believes it. Yeah, and it's pretty uh, it's

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:16.399
<v Speaker 2>pretty cool. But uh, yeah, he's uh, he's a different cat,

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:18.879
<v Speaker 2>but he but he's a good he's a good, great

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.759
<v Speaker 2>kid at heart. And I hope he I hope he

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 2>continues to to get better and better. You think he's got.

0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 2>It's refreshing, it's refreshing. It's refreshing to see in this

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 2>game because a lot of the game is, uh, you know,

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 2>every everybody kind of does thing the same way. And

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's not not not not afraid to be different.

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And I think probably over time you combine that ability

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.080
<v Speaker 2>of not not not being afraid to be different, but

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:45.560
<v Speaker 2>combining that with the ability to to learn from others

0:50:45.640 --> 0:50:47.879
<v Speaker 2>and to learn that you know, there there are other

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.279
<v Speaker 2>guys that can that can really help him evolve as

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a player, combining his knowledge with their knowledge, and he

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 2>can he can be he could be pretty special.

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's gonna be a really good pro

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. So much so much talent. Uh.

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So I talked with you know, my buddies on the

0:51:08.840 --> 0:51:11.279
<v Speaker 1>mid Am Circuit, which I like to call the Loser Tour,

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh and we talk about you know guys that

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>made it and you know why we're sitting playing at

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>some local Muni on a weekend, and uh, one thing

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 1>we always come back to is like this irrational confidence

0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:29.399
<v Speaker 1>that all these guys have. Do you do you think

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that that is? You know, part of it, Like this

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable self belief.

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's it's it's the confidence in their ability.

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>And it's the one of the neatest things that is

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:46.920
<v Speaker 2>that I've seen. Even walking around with Jordan Speed last

0:51:46.920 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>week to practice around him, his self talk is so impressive.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you probably hear he's a little

0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 2>emotion when he talked to himself, and he talks to

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:58.879
<v Speaker 2>Michael Scotty quite a bit on the on the golf course,

0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:02.720
<v Speaker 2>but his self talk will never ever talk badly about

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 2>about himself. He has the utmost belief.

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 2>I had a pretty good feeling he was gonna have

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a great week last week because he fled out set.

0:52:10.600 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I love these dreams, and those those dreams

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 2>last week were awesome. There were some of the worst

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:16.680
<v Speaker 2>dreams I've ever seen. They were it was wet, it

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 2>was their plan, they were bouncing, they were buppy. But

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:20.919
<v Speaker 2>he loved that because he knows he's a great putter

0:52:21.000 --> 0:52:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and he fled out said, Hey, if I missed the

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.440
<v Speaker 2>button this week, I know it's not me. I know

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 2>he's just a dream and that that sounds arrogant, but

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 2>it's honestly, it's a it's a factual statement in his mind.

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It's the way he believes. And so I think that's

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the thing. You've got to have that positive self

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.840
<v Speaker 2>talk and and and and and the concepts and and

0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>never you know, never beating yourself up, never telling yourself

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you're you're not any not any good at anything. And

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 2>that's something that is I wish I had that always. Uh,

0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.000
<v Speaker 2>the best players I've ever coached, whether it's been Patrick

0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 2>reed Or or hind At Norlander or John Peterson or

0:52:54.480 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Telegraft or guys that just had successful college careers, Uh,

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 2>they all had one thing in common that they believe

0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:04.040
<v Speaker 2>that they're twice as good as they really are. Unfortunately,

0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe that I was half as good as I

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.960
<v Speaker 2>really was, and that's about that's a bad quality. And

0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 2>that's why I was never as good a player as

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I could have been. And that's why these guys are

0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 2>really good. And that's not arrogant. I mean, you can

0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 2>have east Embardley you've got to believe you're the best

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:17.880
<v Speaker 2>out there. You've got to be selfish, and you've got

0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:20.000
<v Speaker 2>to be selfish with your time because it's a there's

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot going on out there. If you're not selfish

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 2>with your time, it would be easy to get to

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:25.719
<v Speaker 2>get splayed in a lot of pulls in a lot

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 2>of different directions.

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my my goal this year in tournament play is

0:53:31.320 --> 0:53:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to never once tell myself I suck.

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.080
<v Speaker 2>So you know, good luck with that one. I do

0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:40.919
<v Speaker 2>that about every about every other hole, every hole. That's

0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 2>that's a tough truth. If you tell yourself that, then

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you're eventually gonna believe it. And that's uh, it's just

0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a standard line, but it's it's the truth.

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:54.600
<v Speaker 2>You've got to and that's uh, the biggest one of

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.960
<v Speaker 2>my biggest, biggest jobs of these guys coaches is there's

0:53:57.960 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 2>a lot of us the middle side involved with it.

0:53:59.880 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 2>And especially if i'm you know, I've ever caddy in

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:05.279
<v Speaker 2>but definitely, you know, definitely telling these guys constantly you

0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 2>know how good they are. Yes, you've got to be

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.520
<v Speaker 2>critical and you've got up you've got to point out

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 2>what they've what they've got to work on. But Uh,

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 2>one of the things I've always tried to stand by

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.399
<v Speaker 2>as a coach is is when you're coaching, when you're

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.160
<v Speaker 2>when you're giving a guy the structural criticism, you better

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:21.920
<v Speaker 2>point out the positive first. You point out the positive

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.400
<v Speaker 2>positive first, then you can point out the negative. If

0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 2>you point out the negative first, they never hear the positive.

0:54:27.440 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 2>You can tell it. You can tell a kid, hey,

0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 2>you you putt it, you put it really well, you

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>put it great today, really really proud of it, you know,

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:35.600
<v Speaker 2>but you know, well, we've gotta what we've gotta work.

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:37.839
<v Speaker 2>When you're you're chipping a little bit today, Well, they

0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.399
<v Speaker 2>they they hear that part. They hear the negative. If

0:54:40.400 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>we start with the negative first, they never hear the positive. Yeah,

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's a firm believer in that that you've got

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:49.200
<v Speaker 2>to got to build a guy out before you before

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 2>you can never kind of bring him bring him down

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:52.600
<v Speaker 2>a little bit to make him realize what he's got

0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:53.319
<v Speaker 2>to do to get better.

0:54:54.239 --> 0:54:58.280
<v Speaker 1>So, uh, you've touched on Henrik Norlander a couple of times,

0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've heard this leg and that he

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 1>might be like one of the ten best ball strikers

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:04.440
<v Speaker 1>in the world.

0:55:06.680 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that that's a you know, that's that's I wouldn't

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:13.520
<v Speaker 2>argue with that. Uh, he's like a second son to me.

0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I coached him Upson College for four years and uh

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 2>still I would consider myself one of his coaches, but

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 2>mainly just just one of a really really close friend

0:55:22.080 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 2>of his and we we talk. You know, it seems

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 2>like almost daily. We're really close. And he's he can

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 2>do things with a golf ball and I've seen very

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.359
<v Speaker 2>very few do. He's very impressive from Tea Green. Uh.

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:35.439
<v Speaker 2>And now he's started he's starting to starting to really

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:38.040
<v Speaker 2>develop around the greens as well. And his cutting that

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>is getting is getting so much better, and he's got

0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>a much better, uh way of practice. And he's done

0:55:43.760 --> 0:55:47.359
<v Speaker 2>some great work with the ramone Wisconsin the perfect putter

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:49.239
<v Speaker 2>and and done some really good work. And as a

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of a play with with what he with what

0:55:51.080 --> 0:55:54.720
<v Speaker 2>he's doing now with his cutting, and he's getting getting better. Obviously,

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:56.919
<v Speaker 2>that show just showed with his results this year showed

0:55:57.000 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 2>with his with his loss in the playoff. But let's

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 2>and I expect him to look good things to him

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:04.160
<v Speaker 2>because he could from Peter Green, he's as good, he's

0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:06.480
<v Speaker 2>as good as I've ever seen and uh, one of

0:56:06.520 --> 0:56:07.719
<v Speaker 2>the one of the few guys in the world that

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 2>I've ever been able to see it hit flight, it cuts,

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and most guys that that hit that it cuts hits

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:13.360
<v Speaker 2>them all the way up in the air. And he

0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:15.799
<v Speaker 2>can actually slide it down and control it with the fade.

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:19.239
<v Speaker 2>And it's uh, it's pretty it's pretty uh pretty specional watch.

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 2>And he's he's started to be able to take take

0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:23.600
<v Speaker 2>his game at home and take his game on the

0:56:23.719 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>range to the actual course because he's always, you know,

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 2>he's always had a little trouble kind of letting it

0:56:29.040 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>go and playing without fear. And now that he's starting

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.160
<v Speaker 2>to understand how to let it go. And then that

0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.720
<v Speaker 2>that comes from comes results. When you start having results,

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 2>at least the confidence, and then there's you can work

0:56:41.440 --> 0:56:42.920
<v Speaker 2>where you can work as hard as you want and

0:56:43.120 --> 0:56:45.080
<v Speaker 2>effectively as you want, but if you never have results,

0:56:45.120 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to have have confidence or full confidence. And uh,

0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 2>he started to get that. And hopefully he can get

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:53.279
<v Speaker 2>a few more starts in this year and and lock

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.279
<v Speaker 2>up a store card, which would be pretty quite an

0:56:55.280 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 2>accomplishment without having any status this year. And but he

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.720
<v Speaker 2>he he started to believe that he knows. He's always

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>known he can win out there. I've always known he

0:57:04.960 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>can went out there, but quite honestly, it was it

0:57:07.320 --> 0:57:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was almost a little bit of false belief because he

0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:11.320
<v Speaker 2>really hadn't had any results to back it up. And

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:13.480
<v Speaker 2>then now, you know, finishing second and see all and

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 2>ever since then, it's kind of changed his whole mentality

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>and whole belief and and now he has that validation

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to say, hey, I can get it done on Sunday

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>when it really matters. And I think you know, once

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:25.720
<v Speaker 2>he's in that position again, he's going to close the door.

0:57:27.480 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he uh, he almost pulled that that

0:57:29.920 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>thing off. That's kind of a crazy tournament out there.

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I still think if in that playoff, if you

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:39.919
<v Speaker 2>could have found a way to hit that six iron

0:57:40.000 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 2>on on the green instead of in the bucker, that

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 2>have been a good chance he might if anybody want

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 2>that outride, We're definitely put a little bit more pressure

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>on this guy's trying to get that down and especially

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 2>being the last one to hit. But he did a

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>good shot, just came up and yard short and made

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>a good bucker shot and then it hit a great

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 2>bucker shot just didn't make the putt, but there'll be

0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot more chances for him.

0:57:57.320 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was like thirty degrees, so it had to

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.920
<v Speaker 1>be I mean for those guys picking the yardage figured

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:08.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was really kind of kind of a gift.

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know with Patrick Red, you know, he's he

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 1>hasn't you know, really been in contention in a major.

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's just you know, you know, it's

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:21.680
<v Speaker 1>only four tournaments a year. You know, is there anything

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that you know he needs to do, uh, you know,

0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>to work on to really get you know, where he's

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>in the thick of it in a major, because it

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>seems to be that's the last piece of his career.

0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's are a and he's young still, but

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you know that's the one glaring missing part of his resume.

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, if you look at it, he had he had

0:58:41.520 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 2>his best two finishes in in a major last year.

0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:47.000
<v Speaker 2>He finished finished camp at the British Open, then he

0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 2>finished camp at eleven at the British Open in the PGA,

0:58:49.600 --> 0:58:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and those were those were his two best finishes ever

0:58:51.680 --> 0:58:53.400
<v Speaker 2>in a major. So that was a that was a

0:58:53.400 --> 0:58:55.640
<v Speaker 2>step in the right direction. But no, that's just you know,

0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 2>honestly hasn't played in it. I mean then that just

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.360
<v Speaker 2>takes uh the wall, getting getting comfortable getting that position.

0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:04.360
<v Speaker 2>But he will have He will have plenty of major successes.

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't. He lives with that moment. He

0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:10.960
<v Speaker 2>lives for the Ryder Cup. You can't perform, uh like

0:59:11.080 --> 0:59:13.680
<v Speaker 2>he has in the in the Ryder Cup and had

0:59:13.720 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the consistency that that he had last year and until

0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 2>won five times. Uh, that's just the next step. That's

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 2>just the next step is getting in contention with majors

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and uh, he will win his fair share when when

0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 2>it's all said and done. But I know that's a

0:59:27.160 --> 0:59:30.760
<v Speaker 2>big priority of his and he would definitely get that done.

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>When when you're doing practice drills and you're competing against them,

0:59:34.840 --> 0:59:37.920
<v Speaker 1>you know is you know what, what's it like competing

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>against Patrick Reed?

0:59:41.880 --> 0:59:44.520
<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna win very often. So that's one thing.

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Now he's he's the ultimate competitor. I mean, he he

0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>hates He probably hates losing more than he loves winning.

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.080
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's a that's a trade of a

0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of great guys. They hate they hate to lose

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 2>so badly that they're just gonna find a way to win.

0:59:56.440 --> 0:59:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's why he's so good in the in the

0:59:59.080 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in the Ryder Cup for matter, and then he former

1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:03.000
<v Speaker 2>match play for mat because he he just he just

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:05.720
<v Speaker 2>he just loves to beat you and he's just going

1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to find a way to step on you when when

1:00:07.640 --> 1:00:09.280
<v Speaker 2>he's got you, and he's never going to give up.

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:12.400
<v Speaker 2>He might have a bad hole here here there, but

1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 2>that he's the guy that wants the ball at the

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:16.640
<v Speaker 2>end of the game. He's the guy that wants the

1:00:16.720 --> 1:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>last shot. He's the guy that wants to wants the

1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:21.280
<v Speaker 2>football was under two minutes with a chance to win

1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 2>the game. And that's that's that's why he will that's

1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:26.640
<v Speaker 2>had so much success as a Ryder cupper and and

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I think over time he'll go down is one of

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the greatest Ryder Cup players of all time because he's

1:00:31.240 --> 1:00:33.880
<v Speaker 2>his match play record is his phenomenal, whether it's been

1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:37.640
<v Speaker 2>in in junior golf, amateur golf, and college roff he

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:40.040
<v Speaker 2>went six and oh and and match play and you've

1:00:40.080 --> 1:00:42.080
<v Speaker 2>seen the success that he's had in the Ryder Cup

1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:44.240
<v Speaker 2>and President's Cup, and I think it's all only going

1:00:44.280 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 2>to get better because he truly just lives for that moment.

1:00:47.520 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's turned into an American legend because

1:00:51.000 --> 1:00:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of because of the Ryder Cup. I mean, like you said,

1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, he he wanted Rory McElroy when McElroy's playing

1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.200
<v Speaker 1>probably the best some of the best go off of

1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>his career.

1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was pretty pretty incredible two matches Nichols Nicholson

1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Sergio match and then the Rory and Rorans and Patrick

1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:13.400
<v Speaker 2>match for about that as good as golf can can

1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:17.640
<v Speaker 2>be played on that day. It was pretty h off

1:01:17.760 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 2>off of special stuff.

1:01:19.080 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he uh, he'll be the time that that will

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<v Speaker 2>want to play five five matches every every Ryder Cup

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<v Speaker 2>and he participates in it'll he'll never he'll never want

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<v Speaker 2>to sit out. I can function that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, it's uh, it was. It was cool. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you definitely. I feel like that Phil Sergio

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<v Speaker 1>match just got got so overshadowed by the Rory Reid match.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, that match was so insanely good. It

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, it seemed like Reid and Mathlroy wore

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<v Speaker 1>each other out by like holy eight and but that

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<v Speaker 1>match was just eighteen holes of unbelievable golf.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was probably the best time scene

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<v Speaker 2>definitely in that format anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Already after birdy, So we'll get you out of here

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<v Speaker 1>because I know it's it's it's a tournament week. You

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<v Speaker 1>got tomorrow's the first round, so you probably got your

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<v Speaker 1>phones probably ringing off the hook. But so with last

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<v Speaker 1>question from Twitter, what could amateurs learn most from, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the games of professionals, Like, you know, what what can

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<v Speaker 1>average average you know, take away from watching a PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour event or you know, watching a specific player at

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<v Speaker 1>at an event.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest thing they can do is just

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<v Speaker 2>just watch how they manage, watch how they manage the

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<v Speaker 2>golf course, watch how they play play the game, and

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<v Speaker 2>then never, you know, very rarely, very rarely do they

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<v Speaker 2>put themselves in trouble. They know when to take chances

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<v Speaker 2>with the right clubs. Again, they know when their wedges.

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<v Speaker 2>They're pretty much faring at every flag with you know, seven,

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<v Speaker 2>six R and five iron. They're trying to hit it

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty thirty thirty feet for the most part and

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<v Speaker 2>make the parts and move on. But I think you

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the things that I think is really

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<v Speaker 2>really special to watch for guys, and what I've really

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<v Speaker 2>my guys over and over and over again. It is

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<v Speaker 2>getting you know, is around the greens and getting the

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<v Speaker 2>basic shots up and down. You don't have to get

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the best, the best guys of the best

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<v Speaker 2>short games in the world. They don't always get it

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<v Speaker 2>up and down. They don't get the artisans up and

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<v Speaker 2>down all the time. But if you watch how they

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<v Speaker 2>chip and pitch the ball and the basic ones, the

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<v Speaker 2>easy ones, they chip it, the tap in the chip,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it looks like it's going in all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's that's something that is very you know, underrated,

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<v Speaker 2>is getting the basic ones up and down to where

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<v Speaker 2>there's no stress, you know, chipping it to where it's

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<v Speaker 2>tap in. Uh, that's how you develop a sound short game. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice to hit the super up shot, the hardins,

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<v Speaker 2>get those, get those closed. But honestly, those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>when when they have a super tough shot, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to to you know, give themselves a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>make a putt. But the basic ones, they look at

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<v Speaker 2>those of scoring opportunities and and you know, quite honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>amateur whether it's juniors, whether it's college players, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>high handicappers, low handicappers, making successful mid ends. Whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>may be, you can't stress the value of spending spending

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<v Speaker 2>enough time around the greens. I mean, if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you have an hour to practice, I mean, what does

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<v Speaker 2>everybody do that go to the range. They hit as

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<v Speaker 2>many balls as they can, They wind up hitting you know,

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<v Speaker 2>way too many drivers, and they really don't do anything

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<v Speaker 2>that really got them better, where they would be much

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<v Speaker 2>better off spending half their time on the range and

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<v Speaker 2>half the time shipping, pitching and putting and really getting better.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I have a simple theory if you could

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<v Speaker 2>try to find a way to spend equal time in

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<v Speaker 2>all four four years of the game. If you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to practice for for two hours, if you spend thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes on the range, thirty minutes shipping, pitching, bunkering, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes putting in thirty minutes with your distance wedges, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's pretty hard not to improve. It sounds very simple,

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<v Speaker 2>very dumb down, but honestly it's That's the first question

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<v Speaker 2>I asked everybody when I when I when I start,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I start working them with them, I

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<v Speaker 2>asking one question, I say, how when's the last time

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<v Speaker 2>you spend equally equal time working in all faces of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and most of the time, nobody's ever been

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<v Speaker 2>able to answer that with yeah, I do that all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, or i've or i've even ever done that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I haven't, and I know most most of

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<v Speaker 2>even the best players in the world haven't. But why don't, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if those are the four main areas of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't we spend equal time in those? Sounds very

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<v Speaker 2>dumb and dumb down, but it's, uh, it's the way

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<v Speaker 2>I wish, I wish I would have practiced.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, uh, I think I practiced much smarter

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<v Speaker 1>now than when I was younger. And I always think about, man,

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<v Speaker 1>if I spend as much time, you know, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the percentages I spend now on putting in short game,

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<v Speaker 1>that when I was a kid, I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and again, and I guarantee you don't spend

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<v Speaker 2>as much time in technique as well, because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the time. And and I think that's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>area where I think that we see the biggest the

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<v Speaker 2>fallout is just we get so obsessed with technique and

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<v Speaker 2>trying to perfect something that is really really it's not

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<v Speaker 2>attainable and as opposed to to the shot making, the

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<v Speaker 2>random andes surpprise, just the competitiveness, the practice and really

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<v Speaker 2>doing things that are going to develop trust, develop confidence

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to carry that's actually going to transfer to

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<v Speaker 2>the golf course. Because yes, yes, the technique work is

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<v Speaker 2>important and you have to do that, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee it's going to transfer to the golf course. Because

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<v Speaker 2>when you're on the first team and in your nerve,

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<v Speaker 2>you're nervous, and you've got people around or maybe just

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<v Speaker 2>playing with your buddies at your home course, you better

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<v Speaker 2>have something to fall back on and done enough competitive

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<v Speaker 2>practice and done enough rehearsals that hey, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I could pull the shot off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think it's this. The smartest way is

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<v Speaker 1>just spend time everywhere and become more well rounded. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really appreciate the time. And it was awesome

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<v Speaker 1>to pick your brain and get to kind of nerd

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<v Speaker 1>out about golf with you for for an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I'm so blessed of what I get to

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<v Speaker 3>do and love love love making guys better and it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's my passion and I'm thankful to have an awesome

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<v Speaker 3>life and awesome kids that allow me to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the road a.

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<v Speaker 2>Lot of the time, because if I didn't have that,

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<v Speaker 2>I sure wouldn't be able to do it. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>cool and love hoping my guys get better and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>even better things for coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, we'll stay in touch and look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>meet you at at one of these events. Sometimes sounds great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks so much for having me, I really appreciate it.