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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Point Game with CJ. Toldono

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Thomas. Today, we wanted to hear from you,

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Speaker 1: so we posted on social media. We said drop your

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Speaker 1: questions and the comments below, and you guys showed out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to Isaiah and he's gonna answer everything

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Speaker 1: you guys are asking us. So first question, this is

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Speaker 1: asked on all these podcasts. I don't think we got

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Speaker 1: to it. But Carter Folkers on TikTok asked, what was

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Speaker 1: your welcome to the NBA moment?

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Speaker 2: I had said this on something I was on, but

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Speaker 2: my welcome to the NBA moment was my first game.

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Speaker 3: In Sacramento.

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Speaker 2: My first game of the season was against the Lakers

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Speaker 2: against my favorite player, Kobe Bryant. So welcome to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: I get stubbed in the second quarter. Paul west Fall

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Speaker 2: is rest in peace. Coach Paul west Fall subs me in.

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Speaker 2: He's telling everybody who they have like He's like Tyry Evans,

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Speaker 2: you got him, the Marcus, you got him, and nobody said,

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Speaker 2: he don't say who has Kobe?

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So throughout training camp there was a there was a

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Speaker 2: rule when guys backed me down. Guys can't back me

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Speaker 2: they turn the ball over. So that was the That

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Speaker 2: was a rule in training camp. First game of the season,

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Speaker 2: when he set me in, he telling everybody who they have.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm like, coach, who I got? He like,

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Speaker 2: I t you got Kobe, and remember, nobody can back

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Speaker 2: you down. I'm like, I'm like I'm I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: Him'm like, thanks for putting me in, but you're tripping

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Speaker 2: like that's Kobe and that's my favorite player. But yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: the first so I get subbed in the first three players,

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Speaker 2: I'm guarding Kobe. They give it to him ISO. He

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Speaker 2: just he's just looking at me, like why are you

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Speaker 2: guarding me?

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Speaker 3: He posts me up.

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Speaker 2: I'm just smiling the whole time. I'm like, this is

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Speaker 2: fucking crazy. Right, he goes one for three on me.

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Speaker 2: He hits the first shot on me.

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Speaker 3: Boom. I'm sprinting down court just smiling like this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: I just really guarded Kobe my first possession and he

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Speaker 2: scored on me, Like how dope is that?

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Speaker 3: Like first time in my life.

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Speaker 2: I was happy somebody scored on me, So like that

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Speaker 2: was my That was my welcome to the NBA moment,

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Speaker 2: and it was like everything I dreamed of playing against

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Speaker 2: my favorite player, against my favorite team growing up. First

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Speaker 2: game of the season. So that's a great question. That

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Speaker 1: I just love that it just speaks to a lot

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Speaker 1: of who you are is and that you're also such

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Speaker 1: a fan of the game.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: But it is like, come on, like we got to

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Speaker 1: ease into this thing. You put me in a game another.

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Speaker 3: NBA is that's what's crazy. He threw me in and

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Speaker 3: he's like he said, I got Kobe.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're lying right now, But it was

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Speaker 2: it was super dope because I was just like I

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Speaker 2: really felt like I was going to stop him anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I was like, man, this is it's crazy. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm really touching Kobe's jersey, Like that's how crazy it

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Speaker 2: was for me.

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Speaker 3: So that was that was my moment. Did did it?

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Speaker 1: Kobe? Have any you guys exchange any words?

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Speaker 2: Kobe didn't say nothing to me till my third year. Wow,

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Speaker 2: So like Kobe like looked through my soul the whole time.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to in warm up in the game, I'm

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Speaker 3: He like he looking through my soul. And that's how

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Speaker 2: Everybody though, like he wasn't into He like, my third

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Speaker 2: He I remember we played him. He walked by me,

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Speaker 2: he papted me on the butt and he was like,

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Speaker 2: And then ever since then, that's when we start to

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Speaker 2: it was that was the process of the Kobe thing.

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Speaker 1: So I mean just from being such a fan of

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Speaker 1: you had to earn his like attention everybody that you existed,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like sure, it reminds me of when like

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Lynn lin Sanity, which is one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: next what do you think about this Jeremy Lynn guy,

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Speaker 1: And he's like, who yeah, it's just.

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Speaker 3: Like not giving nobody they until you.

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Speaker 2: You got to show him you got to do it

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Speaker 2: for him to give you any type of respect as

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Speaker 2: it as it should be like that.

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Speaker 1: Though this actually that story actually leads into this next

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Speaker 1: question that I thought was really interesting. So this was

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Speaker 1: from CT from TikTok. Being one of the shorter NBA

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Speaker 1: players in the league. What were some of the most

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Speaker 1: important tactics you had or have for defending taller players?

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Speaker 2: Important tactics It was the low man always wins, Like

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Speaker 2: any defensive players, he'll tell you that. So I already

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Speaker 2: shoot over me. And it's not like I can grow

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Speaker 2: any So like, if you're gonna shoot over for me

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Speaker 2: or shoot fadeaways, I've done my job. Like I just

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Speaker 2: got to pray that I can test it good enough

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Speaker 2: and you missed. But like really being able to guard

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Speaker 2: bigger players, especially on the perimeter, which is my to

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Speaker 2: I would just make it tough on them, and I'm

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Speaker 2: And I was living with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then going into that because Cam Hobbs on

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Speaker 2: The most difficult was was Westbrook with oka see, like

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Speaker 2: then obviously all the other stuff he did, So that

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Speaker 2: So like it was always a good matchup when I

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Speaker 1: Were you you know, how do you play a guy

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Speaker 1: like that? Then? Like do you how do you adjust

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Speaker 3: You know someone that was my best defense was my offense.

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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have to guard to buddy, So that

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Speaker 2: it tough as possible for them, take away what they're

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Speaker 2: you know their strengths are. But at the end of

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Speaker 3: You just got to contain them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this because a lot of these questions too,

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Speaker 1: kind of just like I think someone who wants to

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Speaker 1: get like you. But Henry Tilley on YouTube asked what's

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Speaker 1: take care of your body? What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What are you eating to be the elite hooper that

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Speaker 2: So my pregame meal I will always have, like, especially

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Speaker 2: having the grill salmon, some mashed potatoes and asparagus.

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Speaker 3: My wife will always.

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Speaker 2: Pick that, so like, and I'm the type that I

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Speaker 2: But like postgame, I would eat whatever the team is having.

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Speaker 2: Most teams have really good healthy meals or they do

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Speaker 2: like catered restaurant meals. I would get somewhat of a steak,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going outside the box.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I guess, yeah, how did it work? You

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Speaker 1: know with some of these arenas, is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: talking and just listening to interviews from other NBA players,

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Speaker 1: food was kind of whack, you know, so like how

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Speaker 1: did you deal with that? Were there any experiences whereas like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm coming up to this city, I gotta

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Speaker 2: Nah, I'm eating before I go. Like if I'm on

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Speaker 3: Because some.

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Speaker 2: Arenas don't have good meals. So like, if I eat

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Speaker 2: I gotta move for sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, and so we've read these stories too, Like I

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Speaker 1: remember hearing I'm not going to say the player, but

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Speaker 1: like this dude, elite player, you uhould just eat just candy,

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Speaker 1: you know, Like some of these guys who were just

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Speaker 1: genetically they're like, so, like, how much is that a fact?

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Speaker 1: Can guys really do that if they're trying to have

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Speaker 1: a long career just eating junk food anything. Dwight Howard,

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Speaker 1: you see like Big Max before meals. Did you know

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Speaker 1: any players like that who was just like, no matter

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Speaker 2: I mean some players like that. A lot of young

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Speaker 2: It was not cool, but like you said, you got

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Speaker 2: I remember Terrence Ross on his little podcast, he said

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Speaker 3: It was super dope.

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Speaker 1: Okay, going back to the NBA, you were an All

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Speaker 3: Man, it's everything.

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Speaker 2: It's different from doing all the other festivities like the

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Speaker 2: Like, those things are amazing accomplishments for a young player.

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Speaker 3: And even that, not even only that year.

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Speaker 2: Once you're in those when once you're in that space,

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Speaker 1: You had what kicks do you get? We're special kicks

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I have some special which I had some green Kobe's.

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Speaker 2: There was my coaches there, yes, yes, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 3: I had a.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I remember because it went Toronto, then it

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Speaker 2: Then when New Orleans, everyone to New Orleans, Like New

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Speaker 3: It was just too much going on. They had Mardi

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Speaker 2: It was you couldn't go anywhere, so it was it

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Speaker 1: Again, let's do a non basketball question because people are

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Speaker 2: But but nah, I got some of my my top

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Speaker 2: Breaking Bad is like one of my favorites. Then I'm

439
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Speaker 2: gonna go with dang, what is that scandal?

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Speaker 1: Scandal?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Kerry Washington, Yes, yes, that's like I watched that

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Speaker 2: back in the day, and me and my wife watch

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Speaker 2: that like every now and then we a binge watching

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Speaker 2: just because it was it was it was like and

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Speaker 2: like you said, I don't watch a lot, So that's

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Speaker 2: why my my things are like that. But if I'm

447
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Speaker 2: if i'm if I need to, if I'm on a

448
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Speaker 2: long flight, I tap into some Breaking Bad and watch

449
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Speaker 2: them hour episodes and be and be locked in.

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Speaker 1: Nothing has ever and I watched TV and movies like

451
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Speaker 1: that's like my second like most passionate like hobby. Nothing

452
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Speaker 1: is ever compared to being into Breaking Bad because I

453
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Speaker 1: remember I watched the season late, so I caught up

454
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Speaker 1: and then it was like every Sunday night and the

455
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Speaker 1: twists and turns on that show were so And.

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Speaker 3: The thing with me is like I don't watch.

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Speaker 2: I gotta wait till this seasons done or I got

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Speaker 2: because of the like even with Power or or Breaking Bad,

459
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Speaker 2: they're so good.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait a week.

461
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Speaker 2: I'm not waiting a week, so I like, even with

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Speaker 2: Power or any of those, I wait till it's like

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Speaker 2: six or seven episodes in so I can at least

464
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Speaker 2: watch two three in a row, back to back to back.

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Speaker 3: And there's another one that I like, Yellowstone.

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Speaker 2: Yellowstone is a man, Yellowstone Great, Yellowstone is dope.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I got to tap into shows more though,

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Speaker 2: like especially with what I got more.

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Speaker 3: Time on my hands.

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Speaker 2: I'm just man, I be on the go, so I

472
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Speaker 2: don't even be having time to watch anything.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to come through with some recommendations, honestly, Please

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Speaker 1: do please do it well, you said, because you said

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about movies the last episode, you

476
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Speaker 1: were like basketball movies, And it's been like one of

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Speaker 1: my life goals to make. I don't feel like we

478
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Speaker 1: don't have a good basketball show.

479
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Speaker 3: We've had a lot of like.

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Speaker 1: Football shows, but like no one's captured basketball like accurately

481
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Speaker 1: or like realistically. I don't know. I just feel like

482
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Speaker 1: it'd be dope to credit a cool basketball.

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Speaker 3: Show, no doubt.

484
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Speaker 2: And my best my favorite TV show, yeah ever is

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Speaker 2: Line Order.

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Speaker 1: Oh you could pick up any you can watch any.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm on a Line Order episode which one

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Speaker 3: you don't even know.

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Speaker 2: Look, Line Order is my favorite ever so when I

490
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Speaker 2: when that was my one of my dreams as a

491
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Speaker 2: kid to be on line in Order.

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Speaker 4: Also like to thank Isaiah Thomas for being with us

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Speaker 4: here today.

494
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Speaker 3: Like all of us.

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Speaker 5: I remember the picture of Emma and her Cavaliers jersey.

496
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Speaker 5: I bring the strength of this family on the court.

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Speaker 5: Every game that I play, we play and we pray

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Speaker 5: for you. This jersey is the honor of your homecoming.

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Speaker 5: And remember to always believe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, who was the case? What was the case? Who

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Speaker 1: was on the episode?

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Speaker 3: Look the I think the episode is called complicated.

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Speaker 2: It's maybe season twenty or maybe season seventeen. Look, look,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do your research. I'm not even gonna get

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Speaker 2: because we could talk about that on another.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go offn order.

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Speaker 3: Fam I'm under do you want to?

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Speaker 2: I got reading lines in everything, in everything.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy, okay, Okay, I didn't even know. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gotta look that up. I felt like I did my research.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's some that's some nobody knows about like that.

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Speaker 2: It's funny because somebody be watching Law and Order and

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Speaker 2: they'll be on social media like they're seeing me that.

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Speaker 3: They were like, there's no way you're on line order.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm everywhere, baby, I'm everywhere.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is from uh In gene on Ig.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get in this topic. So this is

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Speaker 1: the question any advice as a father? I know that's

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Speaker 1: super general, but like do you have like three pillars

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Speaker 1: to being a good father? Are things that you know?

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Speaker 1: For speaking from my experience, like I'm discovering something every

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Speaker 1: day and I got two little ones, but like I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out, like what are my three pillars

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Speaker 1: and things I can rest on? So like, what are

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Speaker 1: three big things that you sort of subscribe to as

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Speaker 1: being a good father?

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Speaker 3: Man? Your time is one? Your time?

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Speaker 2: Like that's I think that's that's huge. Man, that's a

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Speaker 2: tough question. Your time, I think leading by the example, Yes,

557
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Speaker 2: because they watch everything.

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Speaker 3: Kids watch everything you do, whether you see it or not.

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Speaker 2: They listen to everything you say, so being able to

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Speaker 2: lead by example, man man, and then just teaching them

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Speaker 2: everything you know and more like like like wanting them.

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Speaker 2: I think I've seen something that said your parents are

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Speaker 2: two people. Whether you have a mom or dad or

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, those are the only people

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Speaker 2: in the world that want you to be better than them.

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Speaker 2: So it's like if you instill that in your kids

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Speaker 2: at an early age, like I'm just here to make

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Speaker 2: sure you know things are just better for you, put

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Speaker 2: you in position to be successful.

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Speaker 3: But knowing life is going to.

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Speaker 2: Be super hard, it's going to be so difficult, but

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Speaker 2: like if you're okay with that, like that's half the battle.

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Speaker 2: So like your time is most important leading by example

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Speaker 2: and then just giving them the gyms and giving them

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Speaker 2: the tools that they need to succeed at every level,

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Speaker 2: whether they be five years old, or they be ten

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Speaker 2: years old, or they're fifteen going into high school. It's

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Speaker 2: like every level needs an example of how to accomplish

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Speaker 2: whatever they're trying to accomplish. Like I don't know it all,

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Speaker 2: so I still learn from my parents of things to do,

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Speaker 2: but like your experience is going to show them, you

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Speaker 2: know the rights, the right way to do things in

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Speaker 2: the wrong way. So like I said, I don't know

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Speaker 2: it all, but i'd be just I'd be going off

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Speaker 2: each and every day. I take it day by day

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Speaker 2: to be the best dad I can be the best

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Speaker 2: friend I can be to them, especially as your kids

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Speaker 2: get older. Like, I'm not trying to be their friend,

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Speaker 2: but I'm trying to put myself in their shoes because

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Speaker 2: I was in their shoes and I know what they're thinking,

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Speaker 2: I know what they're going through. So I just try

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Speaker 2: to make things a little easier for them to accomplish

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Speaker 2: whatever they're trying to accomplish.

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Speaker 1: That's great because I guess, like my fallo up because

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Speaker 1: I want my kid to play basketball or I want them,

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Speaker 1: but of course I'm not going to force them. So

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Speaker 1: I guess, like what was even going way back when

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Speaker 1: your kids first started playing sports? What was sort of

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Speaker 1: your mentality because you want them to be good, but

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Speaker 1: you also got to give them space to learn the

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Speaker 1: game themselves fall in love of the game. Like, what

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Speaker 1: was sort of your mentality? What sort of worked as

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Speaker 1: a sports parent for you?

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Speaker 2: I mean for me, like it's a work in progress. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I want them to be super cold at hoop. I

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Speaker 2: want them to be, but I think early on, they've

607
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Speaker 2: been around the game since they was born, so they

608
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Speaker 2: take they they've taken a liking in the game like

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Speaker 2: they they liked it since they were a kid, obviously

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Speaker 2: because they were forced into it, because that's that was

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Speaker 2: my job. But as they gotten older, I just go

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Speaker 2: with how they want, Like, yeah, I'm gonna put tools,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna put I'm gonna put it in their ear

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Speaker 2: to go work out every now and then. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: put it in their ear to go to the gym.

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Speaker 2: But this is gonna be something you want. I've already

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Speaker 2: done it, Like I've already done that at the highest

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Speaker 2: level in every level of high school, college or the pros.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not forcing that on them. My son Jayden

620
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Speaker 2: likes basketball. I don't think he loves it right now.

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Speaker 2: He likes it, and that's dope because he likes everything else.

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Speaker 2: He likes making music, he makes beats, he does, he

623
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Speaker 2: plays soccer, he plays football. My oldest I think loves

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Speaker 2: it because he only wants to play basketball and he's

625
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Speaker 2: kind of always been like that, and I've always been like, man,

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Speaker 2: put don't put your.

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Speaker 3: All in one thing.

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Speaker 2: But I remember my parents telling me that, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 2: this is what I love. So I think if you

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Speaker 2: find something you love, yeah, put it. Put your all

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Speaker 2: into that, like, put your everything into that. But if

632
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Speaker 2: you only like it, that's fine too. Like, you can

633
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 2: like a lot of things. So I'm not putting the

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Speaker 2: pressure on these guys, but I always tell them, if

635
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Speaker 2: you want to do this though, and be really good

636
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Speaker 2: at it, I'm gonna be on your ass, like, let's

637
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Speaker 2: do it, like I got the formula to be really good.

638
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: But if you're only doing this for fun, that's fine too,

639
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Like then let's not put that pressure on yourself to

640
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Speaker 2: try to be really good if you're only doing this

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Speaker 2: for fun, and that's and I just try to tell

642
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Speaker 2: them it's fine to have fun with this. Yeah, it's

643
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Speaker 2: fine to take this serious too, And whatever it is

644
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Speaker 2: you want to choose to do, whether that be basketball,

645
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Speaker 2: whether that be making beats and loving music, it's like,

646
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Speaker 2: once you find something you love, let's put her all

647
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Speaker 2: into that, because you never know what can come out

648
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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's true. Because you know, when it

650
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Speaker 1: starts feeling like you're being forced to do something, and

651
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: like the journey is so long, you know what I mean,

652
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Speaker 1: Like you got to make sure you're in love with

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Speaker 1: it first, you know, and so like even when you said,

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Speaker 1: like have fun with it. Some a lot of great

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Speaker 1: players that we know who weren't necessarily these high school

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Speaker 1: phenoms or even like you know, on the cover of

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Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated as teenagers or whatever. They were just they

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Speaker 1: were grinding and playing and just playing pick up and

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Speaker 1: the why, playing outside, playing it, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, like they hit their peak early in their career.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew about it because they still had that love

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Speaker 1: for the game, you know, early on, and none of

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Speaker 1: the cameras point out or whatever. So it's interesting. That's

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Speaker 1: that's like one piece of advice that I've heard from

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Speaker 1: so many sports parents. It's like you can't force it,

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Speaker 1: like they will let you know, like hey dad, hey mom,

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Speaker 1: Like I want to lock in, Like can you know

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Speaker 1: how do I continue to get good at this cause

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's a fine line.

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Speaker 2: It's tough, Like it's tough, but you got to do

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Speaker 2: what they want to do at the end of the

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Speaker 2: day and then just be that bridge to help them,

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Speaker 2: like I tell them to this day, Like I got

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Speaker 2: the answers to the test you're going to take throughout

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Speaker 2: this journey like any other journey I don't know too

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Speaker 2: much about, but I get you in position to to

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Speaker 2: take advantage of an oppertunity.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's it's a fine line. But they need

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Speaker 3: a little push to them, but you just can't force it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, last question we talked about Kobe earlier year.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NBA moment. What was your is your

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Speaker 1: favorite General Kobe moment her memory from playing playing with

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Speaker 1: him in the league.

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Speaker 2: My favorite moment was I got his last game in

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Speaker 2: the TV Garden the year he retired. I got to

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Speaker 2: sit with him for a couple of hours before the game,

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Speaker 2: me and him in the locker room and chop it

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Speaker 2: up so like that was that was one of my

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Speaker 2: first times being able to sit one on one and

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Speaker 2: chop it up with him. And it was the dopest

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Speaker 2: thing ever. Like he answered every one of my questions

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Speaker 2: with with detailed answers. He was like really receptive to

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Speaker 2: everything that I was saying. It was it was like

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Speaker 2: I was a kid in a candy store. I was

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Speaker 2: just like, this is crazy. I'm really with Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 2: chopping it up with him. And then even after the game,

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Speaker 2: you know, throughout that that season, everybody's hounding them for things,

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Speaker 2: everybody's handing them. He signed a pair of shoes for me.

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Speaker 2: He brought a pair of shoes signed for me. So

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Speaker 2: I didn't have the shoes. He brought them, signed them

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Speaker 2: for me, gave them to me after the game. My

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Speaker 2: dad was in town, my homies was in town, my

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Speaker 2: my obviously, my kids was in town. He took pictures

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Speaker 2: with my dad, my two of my best friends. He

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Speaker 2: just it was the like the like obviously on the

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Speaker 2: court is dope playing against them, but you don't see

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Speaker 2: that side of Kobe ever when you're competing. So that

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Speaker 2: was like I remember that to this day, like I

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Speaker 2: remember that forever. Him being able to really sit down

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Speaker 2: and chop it up with me and just be as

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Speaker 2: authentic as possible.

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Speaker 3: With no cameras around, with nobody around.

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Speaker 2: I think there was a trainer or two in the

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Speaker 2: locker room while we was talking, and it was just

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Speaker 2: it was just that that made my mind, that turned

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Speaker 2: me into like a whoever I was after that that

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Speaker 2: turned me into that like being able to talk to

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Speaker 2: my favorite player of all time and really just listen

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Speaker 2: to everything he was saying and just take it all in.

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Speaker 1: All right, this has been another episode of Point Game

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Speaker 1: with myself and Isaiah Thomas. We hope you guys have

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Speaker 1: a happy new year, Stay safe and as always, subscribe, follow, like,

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Speaker 1: and follow through. Take care, Peace,