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Speaker 1: ten fifty amw DZ. Sunday Night, Carson Wentz. The Colts
Speaker 1: go to San Francisco face off against Nick Bosa and
Speaker 1: the Niners Sunday, seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who's going to be the starting quarterback for
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Do we know if it's Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo McLevin. I think so. Trey Lance is hurt, right,
Speaker 1: so I think Jimmy. They keep on saying Jimmy G's progressing,
Speaker 1: but I'll double check. You know, the Colts looked okay yesterday.
Speaker 1: I was curious the fan base that feels the worst
Speaker 1: today because you could probably single out a couple of these,
Speaker 1: like the Miami Dolphins, Cleveland Browns, New York Giants. Yeah, Polly,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going Browns. You finish off the season
Speaker 1: last year, you're really good, a lot of expectations, really
Speaker 1: pretty good September. Now you're three and three. Pittsburgh a
Speaker 1: little better, Cincinnati's a little better, and Ravens are cruising.
Speaker 1: Hurt offensive line, both running backs hurt, and Baker is
Speaker 1: probably gonna stay in the field, but be hurt all year.
Speaker 1: That feels it doesn't feel threatening. They don't feel threatening anymore.
Speaker 1: Anybody else that we would put here, I think the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins are probably the biggest surprise being this bad.
Speaker 1: You know, they got a gift to win against the
Speaker 1: Patriots and they've lost five in a row. You lose
Speaker 1: to the Jags dramatic fashion. You're not you don't have
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Yeah, they gave it to the Eagles.
Speaker 1: That a dumb trade. Now you're gonna be in the
Speaker 1: sweepstakes for Deshaun Watson, or at least it feels like
Speaker 1: all of the teams that were reportedly interested in Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson would still be interested in Deshaun Watson Carolina, the
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Dolphins. But if you trade for him,
Speaker 1: and I know, we haven't heard anything about Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: in a while, we haven't heard anything about his lawsuit
Speaker 1: in a while, we haven't heard about any other possible allegations, nothing.
Speaker 1: But if you trade for him, he's probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to sit out eight games when you get him, Like
Speaker 1: the NFL will get around to punishing him. The question
Speaker 1: is when do you punish him? And you're going to
Speaker 1: be punishing that team as well. If I'm the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I'm not going anywhere. Carolina is not a playoff team
Speaker 1: and Miami is not a playoff team. Therefore you already know, hey,
Speaker 1: we're not going to have him. So what the Dolphins
Speaker 1: situations tricky because if you're the Eagles, you get that
Speaker 1: draft pick, and that draft pick could be in the
Speaker 1: top five, which would give the Eagles three top ten,
Speaker 1: top eight picks this upcoming draft. But they need a
Speaker 1: quarterback and there might not be that quarterback in this
Speaker 1: year's draft. What happens is and you could go back
Speaker 1: that quarterback draft. I don't know what year that was,
Speaker 1: If that was twenty ten, but you had Christian Ponder.
Speaker 1: It felt like there was this this rush to get
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and they weren't necessarily first round draft picks, or
Speaker 1: at least high first round draft picks. I should say, yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: yea Dan, that's twenty eleven. Cam Newton went number one,
Speaker 1: Jake Locker went eight to the Titans. Jaguars took Blaine
Speaker 1: Gabbart at ten, and Christian Ponder, which you could find
Speaker 1: a month earlier he was considered to be a third
Speaker 1: round draft pick went to Minnesota at twelve. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that might happen this year because I don't think you
Speaker 1: have that franchise, you know, making quarterback at least it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel that way. Now. This always happens. It's relatively
Speaker 1: early in the college football season, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to get to the end of the season, bowl games, combines,
Speaker 1: and then somebody's going to emerge. But I don't see
Speaker 1: that quarterback where you go. You know, Matt Carroll is
Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback. He's fun to watch. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's sort of a Baker Mayfield type quarterback, maybe
Speaker 1: a little more athletic, But yeah, are you gonna turn
Speaker 1: your franchise over to him. I don't know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't understand what the Shaun Watson. How come he's not
Speaker 1: pushing to play now in force the NFL to suspend
Speaker 1: him or not suspend him. He's just gonna wait till
Speaker 1: next year and face discipline. Well, the Texans don't want
Speaker 1: to play him. So the Texans are not gonna he's
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch because if they put him, what happens
Speaker 1: if he gets injured? Like, you don't want to take
Speaker 1: away your bargaining chip here, right, but doesn't he lose
Speaker 1: a lot? Yeah, but they don't. They're still paying him,
Speaker 1: so that they're probably saying, hey, sit down, shut up,
Speaker 1: you don't want to be here. You told us you
Speaker 1: don't want to be here. We don't want you here,
Speaker 1: but we gotta wait till we trade you, or we
Speaker 1: can trade you. But if I'm a team, I gotta wait. Well,
Speaker 1: these teams that are gonna be trading for Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: are not good. Yeah club yeah, but then the Texans
Speaker 1: got their own trade value because people are going to
Speaker 1: be shot. There's no way they're giving him three first
Speaker 1: round picks for a player who may not be availed
Speaker 1: and you feel like that they're gonna be That's why
Speaker 1: they're still holding out. I mean, it's like the Sixers
Speaker 1: with Ben Simmons. Hey, we got a guy that's damaged,
Speaker 1: give us all, give us a great deal for him.
Speaker 1: Not we know he's damaged, so we're gonna take less.
Speaker 1: That's why Ben Simmons wasn't dealt He couldn't get somebody
Speaker 1: to pony up. You know what they were asking for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pony Every Sunday morning, Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellasarow and
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter give a list of players who are out
Speaker 1: this weekend, and Deshaun Watson's on the list. They never
Speaker 1: and I send a note back to them every week
Speaker 1: out why And I send a note to the actually
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, Why is Deshaun Watson not playing this weekend?
Speaker 1: There is there a designation? Is he suspended? Is he
Speaker 1: on the Commissioner's lest No response. Yeah, it's just a
Speaker 1: healthy scratch that everybody is agreed to this situation. This
Speaker 1: is just the way it's going to be. And the
Speaker 1: NFL doesn't want him out there, Texans don't want him
Speaker 1: out there. He doesn't want to be out there, all right,
Speaker 1: Noel them to see here. Yeah, mcvin. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're all doing the right thing. By the way, I
Speaker 1: would argue that Texans are the most lost franchise in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Like they're looking at a decade of terribleness.
Speaker 1: I honestly, it's like an exhibition team in the NFL
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah. You know, the Giants one of the
Speaker 1: blue bloods in the NFL. They haven't looked good in
Speaker 1: a long time. They have the worst record over the
Speaker 1: last four years. Yes, Yeah, that's supposed to be a
Speaker 1: well run organization. Yeah, Paul, here's a hypothetical. The Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles right now, I think have three first round draft
Speaker 1: choices as of right now. If you're the Eagles and
Speaker 1: could give up two of those for Deshaun Watson, would
Speaker 1: you do it? Let's say hypothetical he was clear to
Speaker 1: play in February. There's no more baggage. Well, two top tens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eagles are jones and for a quarterback. Yeah, he's under contract. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think Deshaun Wats has a no trade and it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been reported he doesn't want to get he wants
Speaker 1: to go to Miami. He doesn't want to go to Philly. No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't, he wants to go to Miami. By the way,
Speaker 1: the NFL says it's happy where they are on the
Speaker 1: taunting penalties, and after piling on the personal fouls the
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, they've slowed down a little bit.
Speaker 1: And you know, any taunting penalty is one too many.
Speaker 1: There was a bad one in the final drive of
Speaker 1: the Bucks Eagles game last Thursday night. Two biggest taunts
Speaker 1: on Sunday weren't flag Ceedee Lamb sticking the ball in
Speaker 1: the defender's face as he ran over the goal line.
Speaker 1: Cowboys overtime when Aaron Rodgers taunting the Bears fans after
Speaker 1: running in for a touchdown told him that he owned
Speaker 1: their team, not that they needed to be reminded. But
Speaker 1: neither of those are egregious enough as you stand over
Speaker 1: somebody after you tackle them, or you make too much
Speaker 1: eye contact or whatever ridiculous rule they put in place here.
Speaker 1: But the NFL says they're content. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was told this over the weekend because I thought, let
Speaker 1: me revisit this why the emphasis on taunting penalties, And
Speaker 1: I was told by somebody with the NFL, well, this
Speaker 1: is to cut down on fights, and I go, who's fighting? Man?
Speaker 1: Nobody's fighting? And who gets hurt in a fight? I
Speaker 1: mean Miles Garrett and Mason Rudolf and somebody's got their
Speaker 1: helmet off. Okay, that's different. That wasn't taunting, I don't think.
Speaker 1: But this, I don't know if it's going to lead to,
Speaker 1: you know, some kind of violence on the field. But
Speaker 1: you know these are taunting penalties. Question is do you
Speaker 1: want to enforce like ceedee lamb scoring that touchdown and taunting? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw a flag on the plane. What does
Speaker 1: it mean the game's over? Who cares? You're gonna find him?
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead find him? Was it Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: who did the bye bye? Yeah? A couple of years ago?
Speaker 1: Years ago, Aaron Jones was running in the end zone.
Speaker 1: He gave a bye bye to a defensive back. He
Speaker 1: got an eleven thousand dollars five or a bye bye? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Guys used to chase after Cam Newton in
Speaker 1: two thou fifteen after but they would never fights, No,
Speaker 1: but they tried to, you know, have a little skirmish
Speaker 1: or two, just let him know, you know, in particular,
Speaker 1: when uh he was. He was doing it in their
Speaker 1: end zone. Then it was you know, completely different, You're
Speaker 1: you're in our on our territory. Here a couple of
Speaker 1: phone calls. Hoover in New York. Hey, who that's it, baby.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you how important you guys are.
Speaker 1: I'm preparing for a meeting with my fellow trustees for
Speaker 1: the County Library System, but I have you on radio,
Speaker 1: so I'm happy to speak with you instead of talking
Speaker 1: to my fellow trustees. So five, ten, one, seventy five
Speaker 1: in my seventh decade and best and worst best. My
Speaker 1: son's in Alabama, alum so we had season tickets for
Speaker 1: ten years. But now we're back north, so it has
Speaker 1: to be Alabama coming back rebounding in that game, Max Smith,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Mac Jones making that seventy five yard pass
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Unfortune day loss and
Speaker 1: Lane Tippin taking the high road in the tragedy that
Speaker 1: happened at that game in Tennessee. I was watching f
Speaker 1: till midnight the other night, and it was sick and
Speaker 1: the worse of the week. The Patriots defense and Belichick's
Speaker 1: sun as their coach. He's the lobster Bowl Captain's got
Speaker 1: to do something with that that guy who's his coordinator
Speaker 1: and his son, because he's not doing the job. So
Speaker 1: the other thing I want to tell you is I
Speaker 1: haven't heard you guys report on the Nutmeg Bowl when
Speaker 1: Ross Tucker was making a big deal about it on Friday,
Speaker 1: and you know, Yukon came back, it won the first
Speaker 1: they won their first football game in two years. And
Speaker 1: you know, there's no that's a big deal for those
Speaker 1: uh Yukon people. You know, you were you guys are
Speaker 1: you know the Connecticut sports team. I know, but we're
Speaker 1: not a Connecticut radio station. We're a national one hoover.
Speaker 1: Like people thought just because ESPN is in Connecticut that
Speaker 1: you know, we should focus more on Connecticut sports. That's
Speaker 1: not what we do. And Connecticut winning a game for
Speaker 1: the first time in a couple of years, the Nutmeg Bowl, Yeah,
Speaker 1: beating Yale. No, Yeah, Paul not leading the national radio
Speaker 1: show with Yukon Yale. Dan, you're losing your ratings, Yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently so, buddy. Yeah, I've been told that before I
Speaker 1: watched that game Ukan Yale. It was it was slow,
Speaker 1: it was slow. Yeah. I remember when I left ESPN
Speaker 1: and of course I have stories about ESPN. But I
Speaker 1: was talking about ESPN and uh, somebody who was a
Speaker 1: so called producer you know, was saying, you know, yelling
Speaker 1: at us, don't publicize ESPN. You're giving away your ratings.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I worked at ESPN. It's not a secret,
Speaker 1: and I was just telling stories about es But you're
Speaker 1: giving away your ratings. Don't talk about ESPN. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you know about doing a
Speaker 1: show like this. I'm going to disabow any knowledge of
Speaker 1: eighteen years there. Yeah, you're giving away your ratings. Uh,
Speaker 1: Paul and Iowa, Hi, Paul, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Hey guys. That's to the weekend. The second straight win
Speaker 1: by Iowa State and Farmageddon, the best rivalry in the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell's first win in the Little Apple. It is
Speaker 1: a good game. Not forty five to zero like last year,
Speaker 1: but still a good game. Other best of the weekend
Speaker 1: the team out East finally got a loss in the
Speaker 1: state of Iowa. But my worst of the weekend. Jackson
Speaker 1: Ma Holmes went over a barrier to do his pregame
Speaker 1: TikTok sideline on Sean Taylor's memorial It's just like the
Speaker 1: complete lack of self awareness is cridgeworthy. Dan, I know
Speaker 1: that I felt bad for Patrick Mahomes. You know, his brother,
Speaker 1: I guess, is a TikTok star, and he was at
Speaker 1: the Washington game and they had this area cordoned off
Speaker 1: that had Sean Taylor's number twenty one on it, and
Speaker 1: I believe it was clear to everybody that this was
Speaker 1: the number they were retiring, and his brother, Patrick Mahomes's
Speaker 1: brother started dancing on the actual jersey number. And then
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, he's at a game when
Speaker 1: they lost, and then he is videotape, you know, spraying
Speaker 1: water on fans at the end of the game, who
Speaker 1: are probably you know, taunting him. Meanwhile Patrick Holmes just
Speaker 1: trying to play. Hey, don't want to answer for his brother,
Speaker 1: a TikTok star dancing on Sean Taylor's jersey number. Boy,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take a break. Let's talk with Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1: He'll join us. Coming up next. More phone calls as well.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to Carson Palmer wanted to play this
Speaker 1: for you and Carson. Here's Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach,
Speaker 1: talking about Jared Goff after the loss to the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I feel like he needs to step up more than
Speaker 1: he has and I think he I think he needs
Speaker 1: to help with you know, just like everybody else. And
Speaker 1: I think he's gotta He's gonna need to put a
Speaker 1: little bit of weight on his shoulders here and it's
Speaker 1: time to step up, make some throws and do some things.
Speaker 1: But he needs help. He needs help. It's bringing Carson Palmer,
Speaker 1: former NFL quarterback, How would you respond to that if
Speaker 1: you're Jared Goff when your coach says that after a loss. Well,
Speaker 1: when when Jared was a young quarterback and just kind
Speaker 1: of getting into the game and figuring things out, like
Speaker 1: I was, you learn at a very young age playing
Speaker 1: this position that when you win, you're the hero when
Speaker 1: you when you lose, you're the bum. And there's too
Speaker 1: much put on you when you win, and there's too
Speaker 1: much put on you when you lose. But I think
Speaker 1: the most important thing that he said it was at
Speaker 1: the very end when when he said he needs help,
Speaker 1: because he needs help. I mean, they can't stop anybody
Speaker 1: under defense. Offensive line has been an issue. They don't
Speaker 1: really have many playmakers behind him in the running back
Speaker 1: position or outside of him at the wide receiver spot.
Speaker 1: So when you lose, things get get heaped on you.
Speaker 1: But there's no doubt Jared Goff needs some help. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been called out by your coach in a
Speaker 1: press conference? Oh? Yeah, happens all the time. I mean
Speaker 1: most times when you lose, they say the quarterback needs
Speaker 1: to play better. And obviously I think j Jared be
Speaker 1: the first to tell you he needs to play better,
Speaker 1: But there's no doubt. I mean, with his skill set,
Speaker 1: he needs help. He needs playmakers around him because he
Speaker 1: doesn't have very many. Explain to me. The Chargers got
Speaker 1: all this love last week and then they go to
Speaker 1: Baltimore and that was not an inspiring effort. As much
Speaker 1: as we should compliment the Ravens Lamar Jackson in their defense,
Speaker 1: but the Chargers, it felt like, Okay, let's see what
Speaker 1: you got national stage, and they did not produce. Why
Speaker 1: they're not quite there yet. They're not completely ready to
Speaker 1: be one of the premier teams in the AFC. They've
Speaker 1: got some really nice nice things about them. They got
Speaker 1: there a good young quarterback, they got a boast of
Speaker 1: Rother down there on the defensive line, Durwin James is
Speaker 1: an animal on the back end at defensive back. You know,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, are you ready to
Speaker 1: you know, all the hype you've been getting as a Charger,
Speaker 1: are you ready to go into Baltimore and one of
Speaker 1: the most hostile environments and put out and show out
Speaker 1: and improve that you deserve to be talked about as
Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the AFC. They answered
Speaker 1: that question for us. They went to Baltimore and got
Speaker 1: blown out. They're not quite there yet, but I'm not
Speaker 1: giving up on that team. I cannot wait to watch them.
Speaker 1: How they respond this week is really telling of what
Speaker 1: kind of team that is, what kind of leadership they have,
Speaker 1: and who their head coaches. Cardinals go to Cleveland and
Speaker 1: banged up Cleveland team, but they they dominated them. That
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like everybody's all in on the Cardinals yet.
Speaker 1: What do you think is the big reason why there's
Speaker 1: a holdout? Well, it's it's then, you know, it's the
Speaker 1: opposite of what we just said about about the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Can you go into Baltimore and win? Well, can you know,
Speaker 1: can the Cardinals, a fourgn O team go out east
Speaker 1: and go into Ohio and beat the Browns? And they
Speaker 1: beat them decisively. It wasn't close. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that team was beat up, But the Cardinals have heard
Speaker 1: all that kind of West Coast bias. All the real
Speaker 1: team teams are out there on the East coast. They
Speaker 1: went into the East Coast, went into Ohio and got
Speaker 1: to win that. You know they should have won. They
Speaker 1: were playing against a team that was beat up. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals were extremely healthy, so I mean you know, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing we just said about the Chargers. If
Speaker 1: you're for real, Arizona, good Ohio, and leave no doubt
Speaker 1: on the field who the best team is, and they
Speaker 1: did that. They are for real. Everybody needs to respect
Speaker 1: that team. They're five and oh for a reason. You
Speaker 1: know that they haven't started off against some week teams.
Speaker 1: They beat some good teams, especially this last week going
Speaker 1: into to Cleveland against the team you know is going
Speaker 1: to run the ball, try to run the ball down
Speaker 1: your throat. They went in there, they looked really good
Speaker 1: and they looked like the best team in the league.
Speaker 1: Right now, it feels like there's the NFC is top heavy.
Speaker 1: You got five teams that are at least five and one.
Speaker 1: You got the Cardinals being undefeated. Dallas wins put up
Speaker 1: big numbers, but they allowed New England to take them
Speaker 1: into overtime. What do you take away from Dallas's win?
Speaker 1: A win is a win, especially when you go into
Speaker 1: New England. I mean, yeah, we'd like to walk out with,
Speaker 1: you know, a two or three score lead, but a
Speaker 1: win is a win. That the best team most of
Speaker 1: the time at the end of the day, especially when
Speaker 1: you go to overtime, finds a way to win, and
Speaker 1: I don't care if it was close. I don't care
Speaker 1: how many points they scored or how many points their
Speaker 1: defense gave up. Dallas is for real. They've got a
Speaker 1: really nice division for them, They're sitting in at a
Speaker 1: good spot in a good division. I just think they
Speaker 1: are for real and they're gonna make a run this year.
Speaker 1: Did you ever find yourself in a competition, within a
Speaker 1: competition against that quarterback on the other team during a
Speaker 1: game of matching them to do your part, you know
Speaker 1: the stats you tried not to, but especially I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're referring to Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: playing against each other former teammates at Oklahoma, but no doubt,
Speaker 1: I mean, every quarterback wants to go in and throw
Speaker 1: for a little bit more yards, have a little bit
Speaker 1: higher completion percentage, and have a better QB rating. So
Speaker 1: you can try to block that out, and you can
Speaker 1: try to say, you know, it's just about our team
Speaker 1: playing well and winning. But I think you know, at
Speaker 1: the at the root of every competitive tussle between two teams,
Speaker 1: I think down there deep, both those quarterbacks want to
Speaker 1: have a better statistical day without a doubt, But did
Speaker 1: you find you did that when you faced Roethlisberger or
Speaker 1: you've faced you know, whoever, Brady, whoever you were facing
Speaker 1: on a regular base, semiregular basis. Absolutely, I would go
Speaker 1: in the locker room, you know, hopefully after a win,
Speaker 1: and I would get the stat sheet right before I
Speaker 1: went into my press conference post game, and I would
Speaker 1: just double check and see where numbers were. So I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty normal. I would I would assume just
Speaker 1: about every quarterback in the league does that. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: can you did you ever have a great game in
Speaker 1: a loss? Like can you can you separate what you
Speaker 1: did as opposed to what your team did? No, I mean,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, quarterbacks so the only position,
Speaker 1: and really head coaches are the only guys that are
Speaker 1: judged on wins and losses, not on how many tackles
Speaker 1: they had or what their defense finished. You know, categorically,
Speaker 1: at the end of the season, it's about wins and losses.
Speaker 1: As a quarterback, you're judged, so you know, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, what matters is the win. And
Speaker 1: then after you get the win, you can, you know,
Speaker 1: personally look at your own statistics and make sure that
Speaker 1: that you had better numbers than your opponent. But it's
Speaker 1: about the win, no doubt. What the hell happened to
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, But they're who they're who we thought
Speaker 1: there were. I mean a lot of people got, you know,
Speaker 1: jumped on the bandwagon, got excited about that team, got
Speaker 1: excited about Brian Flores, and you know, he's the first,
Speaker 1: you know, Bill belichick understudy to go on and have success.
Speaker 1: He hadn't had success yet. I mean that that team
Speaker 1: was really sexy preseason because they had all the draft picks,
Speaker 1: they had all the cap space. They're still not a
Speaker 1: very good football team. You know, they got a gift
Speaker 1: win against New England and now they've lost five in
Speaker 1: a row, and then you lose to Jacksonville in London
Speaker 1: and they don't have their first round pick. Philadelphia has that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a tough situation to be And
Speaker 1: then I don't even know if they're all in on
Speaker 1: Tua because they're right, they're not. Yeah, they're simply not.
Speaker 1: I mean, they thought that Deshaun Watson trade. I think
Speaker 1: it looks like it and it seems like everything was
Speaker 1: pointing towards them being able to acquire Deshaun this offseason.
Speaker 1: Obviously that didn't happen because of all the off the
Speaker 1: field stuff going on in Deshawn's life. But you know,
Speaker 1: I think they realized pretty early on that Tah might
Speaker 1: not be the right guy. That's why you saw Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick playing early on, and now you're seeing some real struggles.
Speaker 1: So I think that Deshaun Watson trade they were eyeing that,
Speaker 1: they were hoping that happened. It didn't. So I mean,
Speaker 1: they can have all the first round picks and they
Speaker 1: can have all the cap room, but if you don't
Speaker 1: have your your QB of the future, then you're still
Speaker 1: going to be constantly looking for him and wanting him,
Speaker 1: trying to trade for him, trying to draft him, whatever
Speaker 1: it may be in the future of Miami. But I
Speaker 1: just don't see two of being the guy their long term.
Speaker 1: He's Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback who joins us every Monday.
Speaker 1: The difference between college and pros. We hear this a lot.
Speaker 1: In college, you throw to the guy who's open. In
Speaker 1: the pros, you have to throw a guy open. Explain
Speaker 1: that difference and how long did it take for you
Speaker 1: to be able to understand that concept. Yeah, in college,
Speaker 1: I mean you have the ability to sit back and
Speaker 1: wait for a receiver to get open and then throw
Speaker 1: it so that the receiver, once he gets the top
Speaker 1: of his route and breaks in or out, can get
Speaker 1: his eyes back to the quarterback and see the ball
Speaker 1: coming at him. That's because in college, most guys in
Speaker 1: the back end run four or five to four six
Speaker 1: forty r dash and so when you get to the NFL,
Speaker 1: just about everybody on the back end runs four three
Speaker 1: to four four, which means all of those windows are smaller.
Speaker 1: The ball can't be in the air for longer, for
Speaker 1: very much longer, because defense backs are closing on it.
Speaker 1: So you have to know that your receiver is getting
Speaker 1: up to ten yards and he's breaking in, and you
Speaker 1: need to throw that ball when he's about seven or
Speaker 1: eight yards, pass the line of scrimmage into his route
Speaker 1: so that when he rounds those last two yards and
Speaker 1: is coming in, he will not see the ball come
Speaker 1: off your fingertips. He will turn his head to the
Speaker 1: quarterback and the ball will be about halfway to him.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, and in college, you know that small
Speaker 1: difference in a forty yard dashtime means those windows close
Speaker 1: extremely fast and guys are only open for really a
Speaker 1: very short period of time. And in college you see
Speaker 1: you know, you watch to Oklahoma play, you see guys running,
Speaker 1: you know, wide open, butt naked down the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. You just do not see that at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. That's the difference between when you have guys
Speaker 1: that run four three in college and you're playing against
Speaker 1: guys that run four six. Once you get to the NFL,
Speaker 1: everybody's running four three four four. So those windows and
Speaker 1: those button naked receivers aren't running wide open down the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. That's just that's a football term, right,
Speaker 1: But naked but naked, Yeah, every coach uses it, Oh
Speaker 1: they do. You can use it too, Daniel. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So give me another term I haven't heard. Uh that's clean? No,
Speaker 1: U the tough one. What do you mean that's clean?
Speaker 1: That's you know, family friendly. Yeah, But like I'm assuming
Speaker 1: this is Disney's. Aren't we on ESPN Disney? No we're not. No,
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not on We're on pea but peacock.
Speaker 1: There you go, butt naked, open um or or we're
Speaker 1: on peak peacock. Can I say wide ass open, Yeah
Speaker 1: you can't. You sure that works too? I think that's
Speaker 1: a show on Peacock White ass open yeah. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: you start to look at Dak Prescott and you come
Speaker 1: off that injury, and we talked about this before where
Speaker 1: you can't think about the injury, and it seems like
Speaker 1: he's pretty comfortable in whatever. I don't like him throwing
Speaker 1: fifty times. It feels like they're a whole lot better
Speaker 1: when they run more than they pass. But what did
Speaker 1: you make a Dak Prescott. I think he's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball better than I've seen him throw the ball in
Speaker 1: the first five years of his career. He threw on
Speaker 1: the run, working his way up to the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: a high angle corner route that was one of the
Speaker 1: most beautiful balls I've seen throw. This season, you're not
Speaker 1: seeing any lingering issues in his or his confidence, any
Speaker 1: lingering issues confidence wise and stepping up in the pocket,
Speaker 1: moving around. I've seen him break numerous tackles. He's not,
Speaker 1: you know, gingerly moving around. You know, he's not overly concerned.
Speaker 1: You can tell you know, as you know, year one
Speaker 1: post surgery, there's always going to be naturally some some
Speaker 1: things holding you back, But as far as when he
Speaker 1: hits the grass and it's Sunday, he looks really confident
Speaker 1: in the stability of his leg, he looks really confident
Speaker 1: in the guys around him. He's playing with a smile
Speaker 1: on his face. I mean, there's no more pressure than
Speaker 1: a quarterbacks playing under than Dak Prescott and Dallas for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So I mean he just looks he just
Speaker 1: looks back. He looks healthy. It's really fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Did people taunt like this, this whole taunting rule and
Speaker 1: how players respond? Did players? Did you ever taunt when
Speaker 1: you were in the NFL? Not really, I mean it
Speaker 1: was talking trash. You know that The fun part of
Speaker 1: talking trash is they're trying to kind of wipe that
Speaker 1: off the game. You know, you think back to like
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players to watch ever was Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers would only be moving backwards if he were
Speaker 1: playing in today's game. I mean, he talked more than anybody,
Speaker 1: and I guess you can call it taunted, but it
Speaker 1: was just talking trash and it was part of the game.
Speaker 1: It was fun back in my day. I mean, Chad Johnson,
Speaker 1: Chad Ochocinco sent a box of pepto bismol to Cleveland
Speaker 1: before we were playing Cleveland. He sent us the deep
Speaker 1: is that taunting? Can you get? Can you get a
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty on Thursday? And keepto bismol to the
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns? What's just getting out of control?
Speaker 1: What's Philip Rivers saying on the field? It's all clean.
Speaker 1: I've never heard him curse yet to hear him curse,
Speaker 1: but he's just having fun. I mean that that's the game.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to talk. You used to be allowed to talk.
Speaker 1: You know. There was always um, some rising going back
Speaker 1: and forth, and now it looks like it feels like
Speaker 1: they're trying to get rid of it. But I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I think. I think Philip would have
Speaker 1: a number of fines going into weeks as it's six
Speaker 1: now week seven. But so he would just say, you
Speaker 1: know you can't stop us, or you know you can't
Speaker 1: you know, gosh, dang it, you can't sack me, or yeah,
Speaker 1: or don't try to bring that will free safety blitz
Speaker 1: on me and he throws it the other way for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. To me, he was always constantly talking and
Speaker 1: that's what got him going, and it pissed off guys
Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. But that's just
Speaker 1: that's the way that I grew up playing football. In
Speaker 1: the game I knew today's game. They're just trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of it, and it is what it is, okay.
Speaker 1: But when a guy sacks you and he stands over
Speaker 1: you and then walks over you like that always bothered me.
Speaker 1: That's where I want to like reach my hand up
Speaker 1: and you know, hit you in the groin if you
Speaker 1: step over me, did you. Yeah, that's that's really disrespectful.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you're getting into being
Speaker 1: a respectful player by you know, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything disrespectful about talking trash, But when you stand over
Speaker 1: a player or spike the ball in their face, or
Speaker 1: do the Alan iverson Tyrone Lou where he walked over
Speaker 1: him after he hit that three pointer like that, that's
Speaker 1: starting to cross the line of being disrespectful. I think
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to get out of the way
Speaker 1: and get out of the game. Unfortunately, when the league
Speaker 1: decides to get rid of something, they decide to get
Speaker 1: rid of it entirely, so you're not allowed to talk
Speaker 1: to any other you know, any other player in the
Speaker 1: field that's not one of your team members. They're just
Speaker 1: trying to wipe it out of the game. Unfortunately. Great
Speaker 1: to talk to you is always Carson, Thanks for joining us. Thanks.
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Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls that always bothered me the most.
Speaker 1: If somebody tackled me or sacked me, and I'm a
Speaker 1: quarterback and then you step over me. To me, that's
Speaker 1: the ultimate sign of disrespect. That's where you just want
Speaker 1: to put your hand up just you know, give a
Speaker 1: cup check to somebody. Yeah. See, it feels worse on
Speaker 1: the basketball court though, somebody steps over you. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: now we got a problem. Yeah, we can't have that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a club. I think the NFL has got a
Speaker 1: bigger problem with all these butt naked wide receivers running
Speaker 1: around wide ass open. Yeah. Pa, it goes back to
Speaker 1: what you said earlier, though, Where was the outbreak of
Speaker 1: fights in the NFL. It's not like um, someone got
Speaker 1: their handbroken because they swung at someone's helmet. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like there was out Sometimes there's a spike in
Speaker 1: fights and hockey and people go crazy. There wasn't this
Speaker 1: in the no That's why I kept saying, Okay, where's
Speaker 1: the fighting here? A couple of phone calls Jason in Nebraska. Hey,
Speaker 1: Jay's best and worst of the weekend. Hey Danie Dan's
Speaker 1: love you guys. Thank you. First, thank you for adding Lincoln,
Speaker 1: Nebraska to your fine list of statients. My best is
Speaker 1: going to be the Atlanta Braves. And as a New
Speaker 1: York Mets fan, that's probably blasphemy, but man, it's just
Speaker 1: really good baseball and it's the reason why I love baseball.
Speaker 1: These last two games. And my worst is first being
Speaker 1: a New York Mets fan and New York Giants fan
Speaker 1: right now, but being a Nebraska corn Offsker fan. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what they're Every team out there right now
Speaker 1: is vulnerable in college emzy team is vulnerable. And yet
Speaker 1: this could have been a nice season. We're going to
Speaker 1: end up five and seven, ridiculous and embarrassment. Thanks guys,
Speaker 1: love you, thank you. Jason. It's like, thank you for
Speaker 1: you know, let me lie down on your couch as
Speaker 1: my therapist there. I mentioned back on October sixth that
Speaker 1: ed Orgeron was going to be fired by LSU at
Speaker 1: the end of the season. It just came out over
Speaker 1: the weekend that they're going to buy him out, and
Speaker 1: there's it's a lot more than just football stuff. There's
Speaker 1: a lot more attached to this, and whether it comes
Speaker 1: out or not really doesn't matter. But coach O did
Speaker 1: talk about not living up to expectations. I knew the
Speaker 1: expectation LSUE when I took the job. I told you
Speaker 1: that I understand the expectation. I invite them. Two nineteen
Speaker 1: was a magical run. But you know, while because of
Speaker 1: the players, but I knew we had to sustain that momentum.
Speaker 1: We had to sustain that standard. And I know that
Speaker 1: the last two years hasn't been the standard of LSU.
Speaker 1: So when he came and talk to me after the
Speaker 1: Kentucky game, I knew that it was time. Man. I
Speaker 1: understand that I understand the expectation of LSU and I
Speaker 1: invite them myself, and we did not meet him the
Speaker 1: last two years. I'm honored that I got to be
Speaker 1: head coach at LSU. But I'm always going to appreciate
Speaker 1: my time here. I have no regrets, not one day.
Speaker 1: I was not gonna have a bad day. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna blake. I'll told you guys that, you know, the
Speaker 1: circumstances that we having won adult games the last two years,
Speaker 1: I totally get it. Coacho will be He'll step down
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I think everybody wins,
Speaker 1: they need to move on and open up the job,
Speaker 1: you know. And one of the reasons I was told
Speaker 1: that every you know, some of these programs need to
Speaker 1: be in on the arch Manning sweepstakes. It's really important.
Speaker 1: And right now LSU is not in on the sweepstakes
Speaker 1: there you know, it's Alabama, Clemson, and Texas. That was
Speaker 1: as of two weeks ago when my source told me that,
Speaker 1: you know, Coacho was going to be fired. There are
Speaker 1: various reports that came out this weekend about this, but
Speaker 1: this was a fatal complay from what I was told
Speaker 1: on October sixth, and that's why I brought it to
Speaker 1: your attention. Yeah, point quick hypothetical, if you got offered
Speaker 1: the LSU job and the USC job same money, which
Speaker 1: would you take Money's exact I could get LSU or USC.
Speaker 1: I need to know a little bit more about the
Speaker 1: hierarchy at USC, Like, are they all in on returning
Speaker 1: to glory? LSU is always all in? Good question, by
Speaker 1: the way, what you just said, they're like, you got
Speaker 1: to know what you're getting into before you sign up.
Speaker 1: I want to know how important the success of the
Speaker 1: football team I'm taking over is to you, to the
Speaker 1: athletic director, to the president, to the chancellor. Let's take
Speaker 1: a break, class call for phone calls, what we learn,
Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow right after this. Thanks for listening
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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts or ever you get your podcast. Last call
Speaker 1: for phone calls, what we learned? What's in store tomorrow?
Speaker 1: By the way, they're odds out next head coach at LSU.
Speaker 1: How about this one? The leading candidate right now, and
Speaker 1: of course these are unscientific. He is currently coaching in
Speaker 1: the SEC. Anybody want to take a guess the odds
Speaker 1: on favorite to coach LSU? The usual? Yeah, Lane Kiffin,
Speaker 1: h Luke Fickle, the Cincinnati head coach, jimbo Fisher's in there,
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is in there, Mark Stoops, Bob Stoops, any
Speaker 1: other Stoops, James Franklin, Joe Brady, former offensive coordinator at LSU.
Speaker 1: Now with Carolina coming back, I'd keep it on Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien even though he's not inspiring as a head coach,
Speaker 1: but you know he's a talented football guy. Luke Fickle,
Speaker 1: I keep I'm told that he's doesn't want to leave
Speaker 1: the Midwest, Cincinnati's head coach. That's why his name was
Speaker 1: brought up at the USC Yes M Club. How about
Speaker 1: an NFL team backs up the brings truck for Ryan
Speaker 1: Day at Ohio State. Then Luke Fickle goes up north?
Speaker 1: Is that up north from today? Yeah? But I that
Speaker 1: I could see you mentioned Ryan. I think you said something,
Speaker 1: not that you're reporting that. No, no, no, no. I
Speaker 1: was just told when Urban went to the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I was told by a source, Ryan Day would be
Speaker 1: a better head coach for Trevor Lawrence than Urban Myer
Speaker 1: because he's the Ohio State head coach. He's he's a
Speaker 1: better offensive mine than Urban Mier. That's what I was told.
Speaker 1: Whether that is true or not, but that's what I
Speaker 1: was told before Urban got there. Yeah, McLevin, we were
Speaker 1: just talking about there's gonna be a lot of NFL vacancies,
Speaker 1: that they might dip into some of these colleges and
Speaker 1: create even more vacancies. Yeah. Yeah, you know you still
Speaker 1: have USC open as well, So USC and LSU those
Speaker 1: are two plumb positions there. Fritzie keeps saying, don't take
Speaker 1: phone calls, but I say why not to the phone
Speaker 1: call has been great? All right? Nathan in La Nathan,
Speaker 1: good morning, best and worst of the weekend. Good morning, Yes,
Speaker 1: I have a best and a worse and a very
Speaker 1: quick honorable mention Okay, my best. My best is the
Speaker 1: very fact that the Cardinals Browns was kind of the
Speaker 1: Mark Key game that's last this past week. I kind
Speaker 1: of liked those those two teams being kind of on
Speaker 1: the top of the top of the chart. There. Worst
Speaker 1: of the week I think is lsu Wayne ducking their
Speaker 1: coach for the next seven weeks. I mean, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: if you're going to fire a guy, fire a guy,
Speaker 1: I don't see a point in leaving him there. Yep.
Speaker 1: And my honorable mention giving him a punter a little
Speaker 1: bit of love. I forget his name, but I believe
Speaker 1: the Packers punter kicked at eighty two yarder yesterday. Wait,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you thank you, thank you, Nathan.
Speaker 1: You can't give a puncher love and then you don't
Speaker 1: know his name. Part of giving him love is to
Speaker 1: mention his name. Yeah, an eighty two yard You were
Speaker 1: you guys aware of an eighty two yard punt? Mclemon?
Speaker 1: I just googled it, Corey. But Jorkez of course, Now
Speaker 1: the eighty two yards eighty two yards? I think if
Speaker 1: you hit an at two yard, that guy should know
Speaker 1: your name. Yeah, well, maybe he couldn't pronounce it. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's what Jorkas is a fun name to say, pejorative.
Speaker 1: I think I'm doing that wrong, but I'm looking after
Speaker 1: the pronunciation guide. Now, Gary and Iowa. Hi, Gary, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind? I thank you for taking my call. Dan, Sure, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's I appreciate it. Worth the best of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Worth of the weekend as my Iowa Hucka was losing
Speaker 1: the Purdue and which, by the way, Paul and Iowa,
Speaker 1: don't don't be mad at big brother, yes the family. Don't.
Speaker 1: Don't be mad we lost one game or be happy
Speaker 1: about that. I guess I should say best of the
Speaker 1: weekend is my Steelers staying up late last night to
Speaker 1: watch them win and over time, maybe if you could
Speaker 1: clarify something for me. I'm not sure the foul on
Speaker 1: JJ wat we're trying to punch the ball out? Was
Speaker 1: it just aesthetically the way it looked? Is that why
Speaker 1: he got the foul? We're only allowed to try to
Speaker 1: punch the ball out one time. I think that it
Speaker 1: might be that he was swinging its TJ watt and
Speaker 1: he was if it's excessive and it was over, he
Speaker 1: was swinging over the top instead of underneath, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's the optics, as we like to say, didn't look good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you have a motor that high, you can't be blamed. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see this day in sports history. This Dane sports
Speaker 1: history is a couple of good ones. The first NCAA
Speaker 1: rules were drawn up in eighteen seventy three by representative
Speaker 1: from Rutgers, Yale, Columbia, and Princeton. Nineteen twenty four, Red
Speaker 1: Greene of Illinois scored four touchdowns in twelve minutes in
Speaker 1: the first half of the game. He scored a fifth touchdown,
Speaker 1: had intercepted pass through a touchdown, and caught a touchdown
Speaker 1: in the second half and Oh. Nineteen sixty seven, the
Speaker 1: American League granted permission for the A's to move to Oakland.
Speaker 1: New franchises were awarded to Kansas City in Seattle. It
Speaker 1: was on in this state the first ever quadrupleed double
Speaker 1: in the NBA by a big man, and he played
Speaker 1: for a variety of teams. I think he went to
Speaker 1: Bowling Green, Bowling Green. He had twenty two points, fourteen rebounds,
Speaker 1: thirteen assists, twelve blocks. Nate Thurman, you can win some
Speaker 1: money on that one. Yeah. Seat by the way Yale,
Speaker 1: Princeton and Rutgers are often grouped together in terms of schools. Yale, Rutgers.
Speaker 1: That was the NCAA. It was like, Oh, Yale, Princeton, Harvard, Rutgers.
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