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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, his eyes up here.

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Speaker 2: I am the scene of the extreme brand scene and

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Speaker 2: I am so happy to be here on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by my co host Chad Dad. Do

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Speaker 1: you feel the excitement in the air.

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Speaker 3: The excitement is so thick you can cut it with

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Speaker 2: We have been waiting for this launch for it seems

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Speaker 2: like forever. I know it's only been a month or two,

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Speaker 2: but I have been just waiting to be.

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Speaker 1: Part of the iHeart family.

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Speaker 2: And now I am here along with you, and I

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Speaker 2: couldn't be happier.

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled.

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Speaker 3: This is great, This is this is awesome. I agree,

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Speaker 3: it's been it feels like a long time coming, but

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Speaker 3: it's just been great, the anticipation and the excitement, and

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Speaker 3: now it's here, and I think we're all ready to party.

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Speaker 3: Party with iHeart Radio, iHeartMedia. We're already to role.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we're static to be here.

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Speaker 2: We've been doing this now for four years and I

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Speaker 2: feel like we've hit the big time.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's great. We're really happy to be here. I want

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Speaker 2: to thank those who have come along with us for

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Speaker 2: this journey. To our new subscribers, welcome, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: give you a little backstory on myself for those of

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Speaker 2: you who might not know who I am and just

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Speaker 2: stumbled upon this show out of nowhere. Again, my name

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Speaker 2: is Francine. I have been involved in the wrestling business

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Speaker 2: for thirty years now.

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Speaker 1: I know it's hard to believe, but it's true.

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Speaker 2: I am an ECW original. I have also worked for

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Speaker 2: the WWE. I have also worked for TNA Wrestling, among

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Speaker 2: other places, and we still get out there and do

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Speaker 2: conventions and the occasional show and podcasting has taken over

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Speaker 2: my life. So I am more than happy to be

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Speaker 2: here and to share not only my wrestling knowledge with you,

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Speaker 2: because this is primarily a wrestling podcast, but we like

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Speaker 2: about everything. My love for Disney, my family, what I

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Speaker 2: ate for dinner last night, you know, our health problems.

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Speaker 2: Like anything under the sun you can think of, we

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Speaker 2: discuss on here. Nothing is off limits. Sometimes you might

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Speaker 1: It just depends on the day.

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Speaker 2: But I am again happy to be here, and I

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Speaker 2: thank everybody who tuned in today and hopefully you will

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Speaker 2: keep tuning in and your friends about us. So Chad,

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Speaker 2: why don't you give us a little bit of background

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Speaker 3: It's nice that you condensed the thirty year wrestling career

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, if people want to look me up.

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Speaker 2: You know, Google is your friend. But I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to sit here and put myself over for a whole hour.

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Speaker 1: That's just rude.

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Speaker 3: Well, allow me to be even more rude. I'll take

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Speaker 3: over that the audience.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: I've been podcasting for about eight years. I've been in

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Speaker 3: And we've done so much and we've had a lot

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Speaker 3: being here on iHeartMedia is to me the highlights and

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Speaker 3: of the stories come out about my experience in addition

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Speaker 4: So I can compliment some.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I just want to emphasize, like

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Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you she was a real bitch. Nobody

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Speaker 2: So yes, we will talk about tons of wrestling on

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Speaker 2: but I get a lot of my ECW family on here.

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Speaker 2: you're a part of this as well. I will be

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Speaker 2: in Virginia Beach on November eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I got the date right. I never get dates right. Awesome.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to be in Virginia Beach on November eleventh.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be doing a signing from eleven to

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Speaker 1: But really excited about getting back on the road.

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Speaker 2: Been working on a lot of dates for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to be doing a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest with you, at fifty one.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: You know, because it really that I never thought that

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Speaker 2: You know, you get your first action figure made and

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Speaker 1: So it's great.

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Speaker 3: Who would have ever thought how much the business evolved

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Speaker 4: And you guys now have.

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Speaker 3: The ability to see different verys of yourself in action

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Speaker 2: And I'll remember, you know, when we were in acw

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Speaker 1: Go with the guys. And I was just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I never thought i'd get my own action figure, but

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Speaker 1: It going, You're still around, glad to seeing it. That

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Speaker 3: It's fun fun to be involved, and anytime they get

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Speaker 3: to meet you, it is very fun, unlike some other

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody has their own domani like that. Like I

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Speaker 2: to email our guests now and get.

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Speaker 1: Him because he's Impeatib.

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Speaker 3: It's on the way.

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Speaker 1: Okay. He just texted me and was like waiting for email.

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Speaker 1: It's coming.

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Speaker 2: Well, let me give him an intro. I know him

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Speaker 2: as Bubba. I will never call him Bully Ray. I

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Speaker 2: am so sorry. I cannot call him Bully Ray. It

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Speaker 2: is Bubba Ray Dudley to me now and forever. I

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Speaker 2: can never call you Bully Ray ever.

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Speaker 4: Franny, you call me whatever you want to call you.

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Speaker 1: Don't call me. They for dinner, kid, You.

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Speaker 4: Know I haven't missed the meal in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I think you look spelt okay, spelter, spelter, swelter, then

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Speaker 1: How are you, my friend?

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Speaker 4: I am great since the last time I saw you

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Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Since you saw me, and that was the first time

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Speaker 4: Was no, not at the last autogrash session.

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Speaker 1: I saw you at the arena. That was the least time,

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Speaker 4: I just saw you at a signing when Devon took

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you to shabby, not too shabby for sixty two.

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Speaker 2: The first thing I want to discuss is because I

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Speaker 1: Why back to TNA?

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Speaker 1: You know, even though you've guts, you've basically.

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Speaker 2: Been around for what twenty something years now, you're still

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Speaker 2: everything looks great. Everybody I talked to says they love

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Speaker 4: This is probably in my top two favorite locker rooms

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Speaker 4: one obviously, because listen, ECW will always be special period.

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Speaker 4: End of story. I don't care who thinks differently than me.

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Speaker 4: It is what it is. We changed wrestling history forever.

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Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. If you don't like it yourself, Okay,

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Speaker 4: that's just the truth. It is what it is. This

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Speaker 4: There is a healthy competitiveness to go out there and

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Speaker 4: And I'm talking about a small amount of veterans there,

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Speaker 4: small amount. I don't see any agendas here. The creative

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Speaker 4: bunch of guys and gals. T and A is smart

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Speaker 4: enough to run smaller buildings. And I don't even know

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Speaker 4: they have not been doing as well. In the past year.

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Speaker 4: TNA truly has turned around, and I think it's because

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Speaker 4: I think that's what you're getting from TNA right now

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Speaker 4: as far as aw and the small houses. First of all,

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Speaker 4: people who take pictures of any wrestling company's arena to

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Speaker 4: in the history of wrestling companies has their ups and

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Speaker 2: Well, Babe, I never said I was, but I agree

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Speaker 2: exactly what I said. But everybody, you know, we want

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Speaker 2: And I was like, why would you want something to fail.

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Speaker 4: These the people who want to see any one particular

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they.

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Speaker 4: Need to be able to sit there and hide behind

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 2: Ask you a question about you because this is a

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Speaker 4: Your name Because people don't know who the real me is.

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Speaker 1: But what they are promoters?

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Speaker 4: What about him? You find me a promoter that I

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Francine, I am so straight up with

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Speaker 1: And I one hundred percent agree with you on That's it.

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Speaker 4: So these promoters see that they can't if a promoter

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Speaker 1: That just happened to me. Same thing three hundred trading cards.

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Speaker 4: I work with. I work with plenty of promoters who

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to do every Tom Dick and Harry's,

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Speaker 1: I might have to do that so we can get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people in the wrestling business cannot

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Speaker 4: I do. I'm sure promoters have tried to get over

440
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 4: on you.

441
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: They just did with the training they put. There was

442
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: a stack of cards.

443
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: And I sat down and the guy was like, and

444
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: the funny part was half the cards were Shane and I.

445
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: So it was the split signature thing. So Shane had

446
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: already signed them, and I said, what is this and

447
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: the guy goes, oh, just sign them.

448
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I said, am I getting paid? And the guy goes, well, no,

449
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: you're the guy that brought you in is getting the money.

450
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: I said for my signature. This wasn't part of the deal.

451
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: So if I didn't sign those cards, they couldn't be

452
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: sold because Sheen's autograph was on it, but mine wasn't.

453
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: I held out until he paid me, as you should.

454
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 4: Right, you're in the Franccene business, and Franccene deserves to

455
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: make money on her pictures, her autographs, whatever it is

456
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: you want to sell. Now, if somebody comes up to me,

457
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 4: if a promoter comes up to me and says, hey, Bubba,

458
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: I want you to sign for two hours, and then

459
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 4: I have like an extra ten mail orders that I'd

460
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: like you to sign. I'll ask him what the mail

461
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: orders are or if they wanted to sign a couple

462
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: extra things, And nine out of ten times the answer is.

463
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Yes, because he told you.

464
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: You tell me up front. We have no problems. It's

465
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: not like, oh, by the way, no, oh by the way,

466
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 4: go yourself.

467
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: I know, well, it's funny, and I'm switching gears a

468
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: little bit. I tried to find and we didn't find it,

469
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: did we try?

470
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: Right?

471
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: I tried to find this video of us because my

472
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: next question was, and I know what you're going to say,

473
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: because you just did it on the pay per view

474
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 2: when we did a house show.

475
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: And this is back in maybe ninety I don't know,

476
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: ninety six, ninety seven something around there.

477
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: I beat up all of the Dudleys, and I don't

478
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: remember where we were, but I remember I did something

479
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: the big Dick. I did something to Devon and then

480
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: you let me give you a diamond cutter and laid

481
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: you guys all out, and then I ended up carrying

482
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: Spike to the back right, and I remember after we

483
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 2: were done, I went to eat you and I apologized

484
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: because I was always scared that the boys were gonna

485
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: resent me for an idea that Paul had. Did you

486
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: ever get mad like by having to put like a

487
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: girl over or.

488
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: Having somebody less stature? Like? I know it's the business,

489
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: but some of the guys had a chip on their

490
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: shoulder about it. You know, she's a girl. Why should

491
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: she beat you know, why should she beat me up

492
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: or pin me in the ring?

493
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 4: Well, I've never had a problem with what you did

494
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 4: to us that night because I don't even remember that happening.

495
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to show the video of it.

496
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 4: I don't remember.

497
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: It's the house show it was. It was like a

498
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: quick little thing.

499
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: And for some reason Paul, I don't know if Shane

500
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 2: was injured and I didn't have anything to do, and

501
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: he said, oh.

502
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: Let's just go pop the crowd and you go beat

503
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: up all the Dudley's. And I was like what And

504
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: I was so afraid I was going to get heat

505
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: for it? But I didn't Nobody this.

506
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 4: Is This is an art form, and this art can

507
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 4: be whatever we want it to be. Rules still apply

508
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: to this art form. But if you do something the

509
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: right way, you can get away with it. What is

510
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: your nickname? What was your nickname? To this day? The

511
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: Queen of Etch, the queen of extreme. So if you're

512
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: supposed to be this tough bitch who has been was

513
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 4: the first girl that I know that ever got super

514
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: bombed through a table, if you're supposed to be this

515
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 4: tough and this much of a badass with cans out

516
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: to here, then it's eyes up here, eyes up here.

517
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: And as my good friend Tony Storm says, chin up

518
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 4: kits out, big mark for Tony Storm. So then yeah,

519
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 4: if you're this tough of a girl, then yeah, on

520
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: a given night, you might be able to get in

521
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: a couple of shots on the boys. Are we doing

522
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: it every night? Absolutely not now. At the pay per

523
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: view The Battle Royal, The Gauntlet Battle Royal, it came

524
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 4: down to myself and Jordan Grace bully right six with

525
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 4: three three hundred pounds. Jordan Grace is five two, a

526
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: Bucco two, soaking wet with a brick in a pocket.

527
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 5: Okay, but she's a former powerlifter, she's a former bodybuilder,

528
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: and on that moment, on that given night, the sun

529
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: shined on her and she had her personal best lift.

530
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: When you competitive powerlifters, competitive weightlifters, they have what's called

531
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: a PR, a personal record or a PB a personal

532
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: best That means you could lift that weight one time

533
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: in that one moment. You may never be able to

534
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: do it again, but in that one moment in time,

535
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 4: you were able to get that personal best. That's what

536
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: Jordan Grace had. She had her personal best record and

537
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: was able to hit me with that move, And that's

538
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: why it makes sense, right. But if you have girls

539
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: just going out there just beating it out of all

540
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: these men, it's not that believable unless your name was China.

541
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: Can I see Charlotte Flair wrestling a guy and stretching them? Absolutely?

542
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 4: Can I see Ria Ripley fighting a guy and beating

543
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 4: the shit out of them? Absolutely? But it can't be

544
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: every single night, and there's ways to do it, and

545
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: when done right with the right psychology, I believe it's acceptable.

546
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: But there's a lot of girls wrestling guys right now

547
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: who are just doing stuff that like a tiny little

548
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: girl can't give a bigger guy. Nine Canadian Destroyers in

549
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 4: a row, it just makes sense.

550
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine's too many? Just eight?

551
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you said something that triggered me at

552
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: the signing.

553
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: You had asked me about the super bomb through.

554
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: The table and how I landed and if I have

555
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: pain from it, and I you know, I told you,

556
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: I said, every time I see Gary Wolf, he always

557
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: tells me how much Anthony protected me. And I never

558
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: felt the same way. I never I never felt I

559
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: was protected on that bump. And when you said that,

560
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: it made me feel like I was justified in my

561
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: thoughts because you know, I said to myself, is it me?

562
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: Is there something going on? But when you told me that,

563
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: I was like.

564
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Damn, I'm glad somebody else realized that there was something

565
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: off on that because, like I said, to this day,

566
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: I still have problems with my tail boone and my

567
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: lower back and the arthritis and this, that and the

568
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: other thing. But I always felt guilty for feeling that

569
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: way because and I love Gary. I never had heat

570
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: with Gary Anthony. That's another story. God.

571
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, I like Anthony and Gary

572
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 4: coming up work with the pit bulls. You know, good dudes.

573
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 4: But nobody has mastered the art of putting somebody through

574
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: a table like I have. And that's not me blowing

575
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 4: smoke up my own ass. It's just a fact I

576
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: have had more women in my hands. And seriously, I

577
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: have had more women's in my hands that I have

578
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: super bombed through tables than anybody else, and nobody else

579
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: Francine has even tried it. Yeah, you might get a

580
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: guy who gives a girl a standing power bomb, but

581
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 4: you'll never see somebody sit on the top rope and

582
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: do the sit out one that I do. And I'll

583
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 4: never throw a woman the way you got thrown, because

584
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: it's almost impossible because of trajectory to land a woman

585
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 4: or a man for that matter, flat. It is a

586
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: little easier with a dude, because a heavier dude will

587
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: go south before they head out. I can get a

588
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: heavier dude to go straight down a lighter woman. The

589
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: minute I come off, her body will want to float out,

590
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: and your body floated, and that's why you landed on

591
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: your tailbone. I believe that Anthony, Gary and Anthony had

592
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: all the best intentions for you. I mean I don't.

593
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe they didn't, but I don't know that.

594
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: All I know is I've seen you. After years and

595
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: years of doing this and seeing how you landed, I

596
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: can tell you I'm not surprised if your hips were

597
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: broken or at a whack for your entire life because

598
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: you landed on your tialbone and your hips, and just

599
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 4: one of those bumps can bang you up for the

600
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: rest of your life.

601
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

602
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: Well I broke my pelvis right after that, so it

603
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: kind of added to the lop side. And it's that

604
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: I was already having as I was walking, But it

605
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: just triggered me. When you said that, I was just like, Wow,

606
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: somebody else noticed, and it's not in my head that

607
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: it was off, like I always felt like it was off,

608
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 2: and I get I always get compliments like wow, it

609
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: was such a great bump, and I'm like, yeah.

610
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: It hurt, like you know what I mean. But I just,

611
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: you know, when you said that, it just made me

612
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 1: feel justified in my thoughts.

613
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 4: So yep, I would have never I would have never

614
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 4: done you like that. I would have held you in

615
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: and and kept you close so I could control your

616
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: body more.

617
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Anthony, I liked Anthony, just to clarify, but he

618
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: he would always ask me on dates and I would

619
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: always say no, and that resulted into some stiff moments

620
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: in the ring. And so I feel like it and

621
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: I love Gary to death, but I was always scared

622
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: to have to work with Anthony. And then when we

623
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: got into the program where Shane and Anthony worked together.

624
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: I got stiffed a bunch of times, and I never

625
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: said anything back then, because you know, I was just

626
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: taught to just shut your mouth and if you have

627
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: to cry, go to the bathroom, go cry in.

628
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: The corner, do something. Don't let them see you.

629
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: And that's what I always did. Yeah, and that's what

630
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: I always did. But you know, I hate to talk

631
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: about him because he's not here. But we had Todd

632
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: Gordon on Todd Gordon goes, oh, should I talk about

633
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: the time that Anthony thought you should give him a

634
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 2: BJ because you know, you were his manager and he

635
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: felt like he deserved one.

636
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, we don't have to, we don't

637
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: have to really go into details. Me.

638
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know that's a lot of the nineties.

639
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the women or have more

640
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: respect maybe nowadays, but like back then, I was just

641
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: trying to prove myself and like, yeah, I want to

642
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: work and I want to be seen as one of

643
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: the boys.

644
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to be seen as.

645
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 2: Some girl who came in as somebody's girlfriend off the street.

646
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: You know.

647
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: So when the guys would say stuff and then he

648
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: did I would kind of just brush it off, and

649
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: some got the hint, some didn't, and you just roll

650
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: with the punches.

651
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: And that's what I did, all right, Yeah, well you

652
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: have to do that.

653
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: But I never knew if it was deliberate or if

654
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: he just if it was accidental, because things had happened

655
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: before that bomb.

656
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 4: And I always mean, I mean, from what I could

657
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: tell of, just just the wrong angle, and I would

658
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: have just held you instead of let you go.

659
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Gotcha, I gotcha.

660
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Let's talk about something fun. Let's talk about Busted Open.

661
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 2: You have a spin off now you do the Fat

662
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 2: and the Furious. I think you're the Furious, Okay, am

663
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 2: I right on that one.

664
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: You are correct.

665
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: You've been with them for years now, right since.

666
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: I've been with Busted Open now for six years.

667
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how did your spin off?

668
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: Because now we have Busted Open after Dark it's on

669
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: Wednesday nights at ten pm.

670
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 4: Correct, yes, right after Dynamite.

671
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: Okay, great, how did that come to play?

672
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 4: Did you say again?

673
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: Did you pitch it?

674
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: They asked me about it. They had asked me about it,

675
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 4: and I and I said, yeah, sure, I would be

676
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: interested in doing my own thing. So like you just

677
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 4: mentioned The Fat and the Furious, Like Dave Lagreca is

678
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: the guy that created Busted Open, he's the lead host,

679
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 4: it's his rock and roll band, it's his baby. I'm

680
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: the first one that got on board with Dave uh

681
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: just basically on a conversation that we had one day,

682
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: and I was looking at it from like a like

683
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: when you watch a show on ESPN, like with Shannon

684
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: Sharp and and any like a stephen A Smith where

685
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 4: you have the the expert, you know, or Hall of

686
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: Famer or the pro up and and the fan, and

687
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: that's what gives Busted Open that interesting dynamic. Then we

688
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 4: brought Dreamer on board, Then we brought Mark Henry on board,

689
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: Then Mickey James came on board. So when whenever Dave

690
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 4: is out and I host the show, I always like

691
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: to give the show a little bit of a name

692
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: or a little bit of flavor. So when it's me

693
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: and Tommy, we call it The Fat and the Furious,

694
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: you know, And then when it's me and Mark Henry,

695
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: I named it the Hall of Fame and Pain. So

696
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: you always know what you're getting as a listener. And

697
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: Busted Open after Dark is just me and whatever music

698
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: I want. To play and whatever I want to talk

699
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 4: about with Dynamite. And I've been asked like, how come

700
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: you don't have any guests on your show. I said,

701
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 4: I don't want guests. I want the fans to be

702
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 4: my guests. The only feedback that I want is from

703
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: the fan base who just watched the show on TV

704
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 4: or just left the arena. I basically wanted to be

705
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 4: like a tailgate party after a rock and roll show,

706
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: or a tailgate party after a wrestling event, where everybody's

707
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: in the parking lot and like, oh my god, that

708
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: was great. You remember this? Did you see this? And

709
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: just it's it's it's generating by how I felt about

710
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: what I just watched, constructive criticism, and then I open

711
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 4: up to the callers and we talk about wrestling. And

712
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 4: my persona on Busted Open after Dark is more of

713
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: my just genuine jovial persona, Like I don't even call

714
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: myself Bully Ray. I call myself Uncle Bully. You know,

715
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: come hang out with Uncle Bully for the night, Lay

716
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: on my couch, tell me your problems. Oh, I tell

717
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: all the hot chicks to call in. We'll put you

718
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: on first.

719
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's what I was going to ask you,

720
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: so the chicks go to the front of the line.

721
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: Is the slogan that you use, right, Are you hooked

722
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: up with the UH because you're doing it from your

723
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 2: home obviously. Are you hooked up with like a producer

724
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: that handles your phone calls?

725
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: How do you know who's calling?

726
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, it's full blown radio, full blown radio. F

727
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 4: it's a serious what the hours are, state.

728
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: Of the art.

729
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: It's state of the art. I have two producers with me. Okay,

730
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: live call ins. I mean I get call in from Canada,

731
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 4: you know, from the West Coast, from from every everywhere.

732
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: And what when I you know, when I talk about

733
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: women calling in, I always like to put first time

734
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: callers on first. And I like to hear from our

735
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 4: female UH fan base because you know, pro wrestling is

736
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: really dominated by dudes. You know. I always like it

737
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: when when women call in to talk about wrestling or

738
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: to give their opinion about wrestling or ask a question

739
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: about it. So and it's also a little you know,

740
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: I have fun with it. But it's chivalrous. You know,

741
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: you open the door for a lady, you know, you

742
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 4: let them. You know, it's just gentlemen ly to let

743
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: the lady go first, and that's why I love it.

744
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: And it doesn't hurt if they're hot.

745
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: Well, how do you know they're hot?

746
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 4: I really don't know.

747
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they conne.

748
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: The sweetest, but I don't know.

749
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: I think you close your eyes and everyone's hot, right,

750
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: turn out the lights, same deal.

751
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: That's it when you're in the when you're in the

752
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: bar at two in the morning and the lights come on,

753
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: you know what that's called. It's the moment of truth.

754
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god, You're like, oh oh yeah, so yeah, put.

755
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: The shades back on one one of these nights.

756
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Can I pick your your band? Uh?

757
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite band of all time?

758
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: Duran?

759
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 4: You know? Oh my you know? Yes, I will? You will?

760
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 4: You know as a kid growing up.

761
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: Were they your favorite? Two?

762
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 4: No?

763
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Did you want to marry John Taylor? Like?

764
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 4: No, quite the opposite. But here's the thing. So, growing

765
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 4: up as a kid in New York, I used to

766
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 4: listen to Z one hundred mm hm and Duran Duran

767
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 4: was on every other song. I mean, Duran Duran was

768
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: the hottest band in the world. There you go. So

769
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 4: I'd be like, what is it? D DD sucks a matter?

770
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: Where's Judas Priest?

771
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 6: And I had made a slayer in Metallica. Meanwhile, where

772
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 6: were all the hot chicks concept?

773
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: Because they were all hot and it took me. It

774
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 4: took me years. And the light bulb. It's kind of

775
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: like when you figure out psychology and a wrestling match

776
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: for the first time. The light bulb goes off and

777
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: you're like, oh wow. And then that day came when

778
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 4: I was like, Wow, durand Duran is really good.

779
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: But you don't like any of their music.

780
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 4: I like, I like a lot of their music. Okay,

781
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 4: I even that what was that one last hit they had,

782
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: the Ordinary World?

783
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful song.

784
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 4: What a great song.

785
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: Beautiful song. I love New Moon on Monday. That's like

786
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: my favorite one from them. The Chauffeur is a good one.

787
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm just in love with the band. I'm in love

788
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: with John I will be until I die. He was

789
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: supposed to be my husband. I don't know what happened

790
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: with that, you know, but they are my favorite. And

791
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: I said to myself, I'm going to ask Bobbo one

792
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: of these days if he can do Duran Duran, maybe.

793
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 4: Maybe I'll have you on one night and uh and uh,

794
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 4: you can introduce Duran Duran as the band of the night.

795
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: I would love to, Okay, just pick a knight that

796
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm awake, because sometimes I fall asleep early. Fred I'm

797
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit on the older side. I'll tell

798
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: you what.

799
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: I've only been to I think five concerts my whole life,

800
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: maybe six. One of them was Kiss and I wasn't

801
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: even a fan, but I became a fan after I

802
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: went to the concert.

803
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 4: But who took yes?

804
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: And he made me that bastard.

805
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: So he made me carry a cooler, a big ass

806
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 2: cooler because we had the box, the press box, the you.

807
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: And he said he they won't check if a girl's

808
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: carrying it.

809
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: So he goes in.

810
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Damien Farren goes in, and here with this cooler, and

811
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: we lined Coca Cola cans on the top, but underneath

812
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: was like a bottle of jack.

813
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: There was like all this liquor.

814
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: And I'm saying, and they're walking away from me, and

815
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm going to get arrested. And I don't

816
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: even know where. I think I was in Baltimore, Maryland.

817
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know how to get back, you know

818
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: what is going on? And the guy goes open your

819
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: cooler and I opened it, and I smiled and he

820
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: goes go ahead, and my heart was like, thank you.

821
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: Sir, and I close it.

822
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: I ran like hell, but it was heavy, but you know,

823
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: we got in there. But it was a great concert.

824
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: I was so impressed because they all had big high

825
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: heels on yes and.

826
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: Running up and down and I said, Jesus, I'm a

827
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: girl and I can't even do that.

828
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: That concert was great. But the best concert I ever

829
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: went to the Wiggles. Wiggles.

830
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't say that I've been to a Wiggles show.

831
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Parked the car, had my kids

832
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: with me. They were tiny, saw two Wiggles walking across

833
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: the street. We grabbed those kids and drug them down

834
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: the street to get the Wiggles and.

835
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: Take the picture with them. And they were the nicest

836
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: and they rocked and I loved them.

837
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: And it's the only time I really marked out because

838
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: my kids were so happy.

839
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, you marked out for

840
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 4: the Wiggles.

841
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Totally marked out. Oh my god. I knew their names.

842
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 2: We took their pictures, they touched my kids, and then

843
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: at the thing, my daughter gave the bow to the

844
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: girl and she wore the bow and it was just

845
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: as a parent. That made my heart so happy. So

846
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: that was my favorite concert that I've ever been to.

847
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: But I haven't been too many because I have anxiety.

848
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: I always feel like, if I'm in a out and

849
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: I have to pee, I'm going to keep my pants

850
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: because I can't get to a bath room. Okay, I

851
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: have problems now that you could just wear an adult

852
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: viper and you're good to go.

853
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 4: But back in the day, I see some of your

854
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 4: posts that you put up there on the old Twitter machine.

855
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: Have you got?

856
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 4: You got things going? They got that this ended cameras

857
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: down your throat.

858
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't even do that yet. I'm freaking out

859
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: about that. And now a urologist wants to see me.

860
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: So now I have urology. A G I an O

861
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: G B Y. I got everything going on? Everything? Yeah,

862
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: just say a prayer.

863
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 4: For me, because I'm sure you'll be okay. Your hardcore,

864
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 4: you're extreme, You're extreme.

865
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Have you gotten the upper and lower gimmick yet?

866
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 4: Have you gotten the upper and lower? Given? I feel

867
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 4: like you should have taken a drag off of a

868
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: cigarette then ended it with brother. Have you got the

869
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 4: upper and lower yet?

870
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 3: Brother?

871
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: Has?

872
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: Actually? Actually, I got the camera shoved up my butt

873
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: because I had something happened to me about a year

874
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 4: ago that scared scared me.

875
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: Blood in your.

876
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,720
Speaker 4: Blood, like bad blood. I thought I was gonna bleed

877
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: out and I got to the hospital. Was no, no,

878
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: it was. I never took pain pills in my whole life,

879
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: you know, and that which is a miracle coming out

880
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: of E CW. But what I did take for the

881
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 4: pain all my career were advill and a leave. Well,

882
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: I guess just after twenty five years of advil and

883
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: a leave, it doesn't it doesn't sit right with you

884
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 4: and you get like these blood pockets that'll build up.

885
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 4: Why why is your mouth dropped open right now? You okay?

886
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: Because my doctor just asked me what do you take

887
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: at night for pain? I said, I take one a

888
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: leave and he said, stop taking that.

889
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: It's going to destroy your stomach.

890
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 4: It can, Yeah, it definitely can. Honestly though, Franny, I

891
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 4: don't think one is going to do it.

892
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: One.

893
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 4: I mean I was swallowing. I was swallowing like four

894
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 4: or five a night to deal with the pain. So

895
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: because I never wanted to get on percocets or you know,

896
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 4: any of that stuff. So what happened to a lot

897
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: of the guys. But yeah, after twenty five years of

898
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 4: taking it, finally caught of me. And I'm and I'm

899
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 4: bleeding like crazy. So they told me, uh, you know

900
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 4: tomorrow you're going to go in for uh what's the thing?

901
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: When they shove it up the butt?

902
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: I think it's a lower colonoscopy, isn't it?

903
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah, So I'm in the the the room of

904
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 4: the exam room with five female nurses. Now you want

905
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 4: to feel vulnerable, You're naked in a hospital gown. But

906
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 4: why you're flipped over on your side and trying to

907
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: make chit chat?

908
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: What are you talking about the weather? I don't are

909
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: you putting yourself over to them telling them?

910
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, not at all.

911
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: Out.

912
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: I didn't hit it with the old Do you know

913
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 4: how who I am? When I was face down? Ass up? Uh?

914
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 4: But this was funny. So the lady who uh uses

915
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 4: the uh you know, the stuff to put you to sleep?

916
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: The thing?

917
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: I think the thing? Yeah, anesthesiologist. So I look at

918
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 4: the size of the needle she has that she's gonna

919
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 4: pump into me my IV And I'm wondering to myself,

920
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 4: is this gonna be enough. So I said to her,

921
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, excuse me, ma'am, do you really think you

922
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 4: have enough in there for somebody my size? And she's like, Oh,

923
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: don't worry about it, You're gonna be fine. This is

924
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 4: And I remember looking at the clock and it was

925
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: two minutes to twelve noon and I said to myself,

926
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: I wonder if she's gonna And then I woke up

927
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 4: in the recovery room. That's how quick it knocked me out. Yeah.

928
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just scared because it's upper lower. And then

929
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 2: the scope because he goes, oh, we have to get

930
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: a scope.

931
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: See. I had five surgeries on my stomach.

932
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: Five two were sea sections, three were to repair my

933
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: abdominal region. Right, I've had a surgery twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,

934
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, so three consecutive years they worked on the

935
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: same part. And the third year they put a mesh

936
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: panel over my abs to hold them together. Now I'm

937
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: getting to the point where where I when I eat

938
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: something pain, I'm in pain, and I'm bloated. I always

939
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: look like I'm pregnant. And you know as well as

940
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: I do. If you go into the gym and you

941
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: work out. You see results on every single body part

942
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: except for the mid section, and my mid section looks

943
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 2: like I'm three months pregnant.

944
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm sick of it. So I wanted to go to

945
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: the doctor see what's going on. Initially, he said.

946
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: You have so much scar tissue built up that it's

947
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: never going to go away. And he said in the bloating,

948
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: we don't know, so we have to do you know,

949
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: we want to do the upper and lower and then

950
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: we want to do the scope and see what's going

951
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: on and see if you.

952
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: Have an ulcer.

953
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 2: Maybe that's triggering what's you know, happening down there.

954
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: I don't know when.

955
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: Anytime I eat, it could be a cracker or it

956
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,399
Speaker 2: could be a seven course meal.

957
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: Fat as a house.

958
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: And it's annoying because I'm trying to stay in cheap

959
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: and look good for fifty one. But you get this

960
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 2: part of you that you can't control, and so it's

961
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 2: it's put me in a little bit of a depression

962
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: because I'm not pregnant and I look pregnant.

963
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: I saw you the other day, you look good.

964
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm thick. When when was you thick? You know?

965
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: I don't agree with you.

966
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Well, look I appreciate it, but the next time I'll

967
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: let you. I'd be part of the Fat and the Fat,

968
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: Fat Furious.

969
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: Team Fat the Furious, Oh my.

970
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: God, terrible.

971
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm going to get it checked out. I'm gonna

972
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: let you know how it goes. I do want to

973
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: come on your show one night and we'll sit here

974
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,359
Speaker 2: tell the people where they can find you. I mean

975
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: we just kind of talked about it, but on the

976
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,439
Speaker 2: Twitter machine and everywhere else.

977
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: I don't even know my handles.

978
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: I think you're at Bully Ray is real.

979
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 4: It's real Bully fifty one fifty okay on the Twitter machine,

980
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: and then on Instagram it's Bully Ray Team three D

981
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 4: Academy or something like that. I don't even know. You

982
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 4: probably find me at your local McDonald's.

983
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't think we follow each other on Instagram.

984
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: You want me to follow you? Yeah, that's what shit

985
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 4: starts getting serious.

986
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 1: Follow me everywhere? Yes, you need followers. We need to follow.

987
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 4: Each other, all right, one day we'll go get drunk.

988
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to figure well, definitely WrestleMania weekend, yes,

989
00:53:58,400 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: but that's far away.

990
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: I did invite you to my Burgatta event.

991
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 4: I was busy doing a job.

992
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: You were busy job into a girl. That's okay, I understand. Listen,

993
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: this was great. I want to have you back on.

994
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: In the future.

995
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 4: Well anytime we.

996
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: Didn't, we hardly scratched the surface. I kept you fifteen

997
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: minutes later.

998
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.

999
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: Why don't we have you on Busted Open on a Wednesday?

1000
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 4: Because every Wednesday we do Women of Wednesday, women who

1001
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 4: have affected the wrestling business in a positive way. So

1002
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 4: let's have you on. We'll talk about Duran, Duran, Atlanta

1003
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 4: and getting blitzed. I love it.

1004
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: I love it.

1005
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: I hope to see you soon. We'll keep in touch.

1006
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: I love you, and I thank you for coming on.

1007
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 4: You're welcome, everybody.

1008
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: This is Bubbaray Dudley, my friend. Take care baby, bye bye.

1009
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: All right, that was a good one. That was a

1010
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: fun one.

1011
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: I didn't expect the bleeding from the a hole at

1012
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: the end, but you know that's always on.

1013
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 1: Jim that nobody else probably touched on it this business.

1014
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: So that's the headline, Face down, ass Up Bully Ray

1015
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: with five women.

1016
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: That's great.

1017
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the Tony Storm thing sits

1018
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: out shoe watch for the shoe, but face down, ass up.

1019
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 3: It's great as somebody who can sit here and always

1020
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 3: listen to guys and gals like self. Yeah, history fly

1021
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: on the wall. I love it. I could listen to

1022
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: you guys talk for hours.

1023
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: We could have did that for hours because there's so

1024
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: much history between us. And for everybody who says he's

1025
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: not a nice guy, he really is a nice guy.

1026
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I just don't.

1027
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe because I've known him for so long.

1028
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: I just feel like he gets a bad rap, but

1029
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: tremendous worker, even better person.

1030
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 1: So so throwed that he came on, and I think

1031
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: for our first I heeart episode, that was a good one.

1032
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely so happy to have had him.

1033
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: He broke the cherry.

1034
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. I'm gonna say it's a New York thing.

1035
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 4: I have to say.

1036
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and

1037
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 3: just say some people may not understand what it's like

1038
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: in the Northeast, the New York attitude. Some people are

1039
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: in your face. I mean I had you know coaches

1040
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 3: like that growing up that they're in your face.

1041
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you might not like it. They tell it

1042
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 4: like it is. You know. I was afraid if I

1043
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 4: said boo.

1044
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: He was gonna say shut up, but I was gonna

1045
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 3: say hey, I didn't want to say a word for

1046
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: you're a coach or bubba no bubba.

1047
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 4: I know, okay, but no.

1048
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a lot of the criticism

1049
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: is that they're afraid. I think people that they don't

1050
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: get the New York attitude. And he's got it and

1051
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: he's the man. I mean, what can you say?

1052
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's great, He's been a friend forever. And

1053
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: great episode. Great first episode. So please guys, leave your feedback,

1054
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: let us know what you thought, and please subscribe. If

1055
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 2: you had not subscribed to this channel, you know this podcast.

1056
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 2: Please subscribe wherever you listen to podcast. And you know,

1057
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 2: I am again I keep saying this, but I am

1058
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: so happy to finally be recording for iHeart and I

1059
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: just hope it. You know, we have many, many, even better.

1060
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: Episodes in the future. I don't know how you can

1061
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: beat this one. This one was pretty good.

1062
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: They're going to be coming fat and furiously the fat,

1063
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: fat and furious.

1064
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm the I'm the second fat.

1065
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: I don't like to call people fat, but I feel

1066
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: like I'm blowed it all the time and it's sad.

1067
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: But anyway, don't feel that way. I know.

1068
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, Chadster, where can people find you if they want

1069
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: to follow you on social media?

1070
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 4: Sure?

1071
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter. It's at Chad

1072
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 3: I A N B SO Chad E and B on Twitter.

1073
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: On Instagram it's at IB Exclusives, which I also have

1074
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 3: a website that is called IB Exclusives and it's just

1075
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: very simple ibexclusives dot com. And you can find me

1076
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: here on ice of here.

1077
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay.

1078
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: November eleventh, Virginia Beach, for Virginia, I'll be signing from

1079
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: eleven a m. To one pm at the Virginia Beach

1080
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: Field House.

1081
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: There's gonna be.

1082
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: A plethora of sports stars there. I believe I might

1083
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: be the only female.

1084
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm the only female in the picture,

1085
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: that's for sure.

1086
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 3: I believe you will be the only female, only female there.

1087
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: You never know who's going to pop up at these things.

1088
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: But like I said earlier, I don't get the Virginia

1089
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: Beach often, so please, if you are in the area,

1090
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 2: come down and say hi.

1091
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: I'd love to see you. And Virginia Beach.

1092
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: Sports card, comic book, Pokemon and Collectible's expo.

1093
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 3: Can I also add for wrestling fans, Rick Flair's Starkade

1094
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: eighty three robe will also be in attendance. You have

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Speaker 3: to share the wrestling spotlight.

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Speaker 2: You know what, it's Rick Flair. I'll share it with him.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give a big WU if.

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Speaker 1: I see that to try it on.

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Speaker 3: Talking about can I, you think the doubt it's probably

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Speaker 3: gonna be behind plexiglass.

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Speaker 1: Oh it's for sale.

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Speaker 4: I doubt it.

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Speaker 1: No, No, it's just a show off piece. Okay. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: if you want to follow me on social media, I am.

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Speaker 2: I also have a YouTube page and you can find

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Speaker 2: that at ECW Diva Franccene as well with an exclamation

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Speaker 2: point at the end.

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Speaker 1: So go over there and subscribe.

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