Speaker 1: I welcome to episode one, Maddie and tell you're here.
Speaker 1: Hello girls, Hello, thank you nice. Now what's the right
Speaker 1: way to what do you say? I personally don't care,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I like ladies because people still think that
Speaker 1: we're kids. Like okay, for example, I don't know how
Speaker 1: like girls because I am I'm twenty two, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but I am a woman. I don't know. It's just well,
Speaker 1: for example, our bus driver we had like a pill
Speaker 1: and bus driver to do like a co drive last
Speaker 1: night to get us back, and he called us kids
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm a twenty year old woman.
Speaker 1: I'm not a I do care. I don't want to
Speaker 1: call it a kid, call a kid. He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm like, not kid age, but
Speaker 1: thanks for making me feel ladies girls, women. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine he says fifties. If I'm just guessing bus driver,
Speaker 1: he probably has a kid. May be so, so I
Speaker 1: would think if you have kids and they're the same
Speaker 1: age as someone, you probably see them as the kid. Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't know your bus drivers, but I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what's expensive is haven't have to bus drivers. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: what happens is I'll explain it to people because I
Speaker 1: have to. We have take buses out all the time.
Speaker 1: So if you drive over whatever the law is, let's
Speaker 1: say it's nine that seems reasonable. Yeah, if you have
Speaker 1: to drive over nine hours, you have to have to
Speaker 1: bus drivers or the bus drivers to pull over and
Speaker 1: sleep for a certain amount of time. Right, So which
Speaker 1: which is a nightmare. Both scenarios a nightmare. Right, It's
Speaker 1: just expensive either way to bus drivers. And when you're rolling,
Speaker 1: I mean we're rolling twelve deep on a twelve bunk
Speaker 1: bus with the code driver, so it's yeah, like it's
Speaker 1: not cramped. It's always weird with the second bus driver too,
Speaker 1: because you don't know them everybody. And that was the
Speaker 1: guy I was talking about. Yeah, yes, so he was
Speaker 1: the like touch sport, Like, no, this is weird. Like
Speaker 1: we own a company and we're like running this whole thing,
Speaker 1: and kid just feels really weird to me. People will
Speaker 1: still call me kid though, too, if they're older, if
Speaker 1: they're like six, they'd be like, hey, you're just a kid.
Speaker 1: But it just has to because they have kids the same. Yeah, probably,
Speaker 1: I don't see. I would never say kids to YouTube,
Speaker 1: right because I would say you're more like little sister age. Well,
Speaker 1: he thought we were kids, like he because whenever I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, hi, how are you, He's like, how
Speaker 1: are you kids doing or something? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're good, but I mean we're not kids, and he's like, really,
Speaker 1: how old are you? And I told him. I swear
Speaker 1: he probably thought we were like seventeen or something. I'm
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Speaker 1: now back here, get that out of the way. It's
Speaker 1: always awkward time when you have to read the commercial
Speaker 1: in front of the guests because I hear it, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's so cool to watch me hold
Speaker 1: the paper and stare it down. It's funny how there
Speaker 1: are things that I guess we take for granted. For example,
Speaker 1: I'm in that studio every morning and people will come
Speaker 1: and watch us, and I'll be like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: so cool, But to me, that's every day. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: same thing with you guys. You know you're talking about
Speaker 1: your bus driver there are parts of the touring life
Speaker 1: that I don't think people have any idea like what
Speaker 1: the only because I only know because I had to
Speaker 1: start touring with the band and we started playing and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, this is a real thing.
Speaker 1: Like sound checks for example, right, which is when you
Speaker 1: go up and make sure that all the stuff works,
Speaker 1: all the guitars, the drums, Like that's a pretty grueling thing,
Speaker 1: like a sound check. Every day show, do you guys
Speaker 1: go do you go to your sound check? If we can't,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to sometimes. Well, recently it's been a lot
Speaker 1: of like open sound checks, meaning the venue is open
Speaker 1: to the public and so we aren't able to go
Speaker 1: out yet, but we prefer to sound check because we
Speaker 1: lack when our stuff sounds good. What do you mean
Speaker 1: so they open it up. Yeah, so it's open to
Speaker 1: the public. So festival, you can't really like close it off.
Speaker 1: The crowd just kind of post it up since ten
Speaker 1: am or something. Yeah, so you really don't want to
Speaker 1: go out because it kind of you don't want to
Speaker 1: play your songs at three p m. And we look crusty,
Speaker 1: You're not all cute and done like that's just like
Speaker 1: it's just like the like Wizard of Oz thing where
Speaker 1: you think something so cool and then you feel back there,
Speaker 1: you know, So if we want to keep it a mystery,
Speaker 1: I think inter ears are a thing that people that
Speaker 1: until you do it. You know. When I was mentoring
Speaker 1: an American Idolas Hapen to talk to the kids about
Speaker 1: things like inter ears, that's so much fun. You look
Speaker 1: like you're having a blast on there. They edited me good.
Speaker 1: But I mean I feel like that was such a
Speaker 1: good like you know how it is, and they did
Speaker 1: a great job of editing. Yeah, they really did. I
Speaker 1: just did what I do. I don't think that's what
Speaker 1: that's what you should do. But I was talking to
Speaker 1: them about things like inter ears. That's like the mentoring
Speaker 1: thing that would be like, hey, so here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You put these First of all, they put this gel
Speaker 1: in your ear. It's the worst. Talk about that for
Speaker 1: a second. It is so uncomfortable. I remember being so
Speaker 1: self conscious about how much ear wax that was going
Speaker 1: to have. But is that and that does no one
Speaker 1: else think about that? But I was there was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're gonna say I have so much
Speaker 1: ear wax? And then viously they're like it's moderate, but
Speaker 1: still I was so self conscious. I was just nerves. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is so like first world problems, Like this
Speaker 1: is not anything bad at all, but it's just like
Speaker 1: nerve racking. These like an eer things. Were basically trying
Speaker 1: to explain it to everyone that doesn't tour, but which
Speaker 1: most people. Most people, Yeah, we're very very lucky individuals
Speaker 1: that we all get to do it. But um, so, basically,
Speaker 1: it's these little like headphone thingies that go in your ear,
Speaker 1: but they're molded to your ear so they fit perfectly
Speaker 1: and you can hear everything and you know, so you
Speaker 1: can sound great here everyone on stage. So you go
Speaker 1: to the doctor this I mean it feels like a
Speaker 1: doctor like this ear person. Yeah, and you have to
Speaker 1: move your jaw around and whatnot. Yes, And I think
Speaker 1: that's why I had so like anxiety. And it's like
Speaker 1: if you're getting your ears peers for the first time
Speaker 1: or a tattoo for the first time. You don't know
Speaker 1: what to expect, so you're like, is this going to hurt?
Speaker 1: It's basically they shoot this like jelly stuff into your ear,
Speaker 1: so it's like you feel like you're underwater and you
Speaker 1: just have to sit there for like ten minutes while
Speaker 1: it hardens, and it's the weirdest. It's very hard to explain,
Speaker 1: but it's very uncomfortable. I was just like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is not something I don't want to do again. Even
Speaker 1: putting the ears in. When you put them in the first, well,
Speaker 1: they sell your ear first of all, where you're supposed
Speaker 1: to really not hear much happening around you. But the
Speaker 1: first time you go on stage and your ears are sealed,
Speaker 1: it's weird because you're used to hearing the crowd, right
Speaker 1: and just hearing it back to a speaker, so you
Speaker 1: can hear the crowd, but when you put the ears in,
Speaker 1: you really can't hear the crowd. I remember the very
Speaker 1: first time I ever used my inn ears, and it's
Speaker 1: probably the same show as you. We played, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was some like CMT football kickoff thing. I
Speaker 1: don't really know, but it was some live television, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was our first time ever using our inn ear.
Speaker 1: So imagine that it's a big performance and then you
Speaker 1: have something new informs exactly and it's just it changes
Speaker 1: your world because, like you said, it's sealed, it's you
Speaker 1: don't hear anything. You can't hear anything. It's all just
Speaker 1: basically in your head and it takes a minute to
Speaker 1: get used to so I remember, like what is going on?
Speaker 1: Or it's like you think the crowd is not into
Speaker 1: it at all because you can't hear, and then you
Speaker 1: take one out and you're like, wait, everyone's really excited,
Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah. So we have these little things
Speaker 1: called I'm sure y'all have, like the crowd mics, where
Speaker 1: you haven't pointed to the crowd so you can hear them,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I be able to say the craziest stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, we have a microphone on you. You
Speaker 1: can't be saying crazy stuff like that. I can hear you.
Speaker 1: They were just halfway through a set when they yelled
Speaker 1: girl on a count your song. We're like, we have
Speaker 1: more songs in that. Obviously you're going to play it.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, hold on, we're going to play it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing about the crowd mix is weird is it's
Speaker 1: always a split second delayed. Yes, oh yeah, so like
Speaker 1: clapping and so you really you can't get really started
Speaker 1: play under rhythm with their class because those microphones that
Speaker 1: are able to hear the crowd are a quarter of
Speaker 1: a second behind, so it does. But that's one of
Speaker 1: those things. And I tell my audience all the time,
Speaker 1: if you see someone with the thing hanging out of
Speaker 1: their ear, it's because they want to hear the crowd,
Speaker 1: so they have one ear out or yeah, which tay
Speaker 1: Is had issues with hers like three weeks where it
Speaker 1: connects the chord in my ear. Something's messed up. I
Speaker 1: don't know. She's so chill. She's like, we're like about
Speaker 1: to get on stage, into tracks going, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have any ears, and I would have been like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have my ears, like freaking out. And she's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do a show without an ear, and
Speaker 1: you know, and we're a harmony band, so she needs
Speaker 1: to hear what's going on and both of us need
Speaker 1: to hear each other for this to work. And she's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll just do it with that one ear, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: heck no, I would be freaking out. I was still
Speaker 1: before and then after getting off stage, and because when
Speaker 1: you when you only put one ear in and listen
Speaker 1: to an entire sixty seventy five minutes set with one
Speaker 1: ear turned up, you come off stage and you can't
Speaker 1: hear anything out of that ere. So I was like,
Speaker 1: and if you're doing that again, if you're blaring music
Speaker 1: like on your phone, like you have your headphones in
Speaker 1: and you only have one headphone on like your other
Speaker 1: ear is like, Oh, what is going on? It's just funky?
Speaker 1: What is something that you guys wish you were asked
Speaker 1: about more? Because I do a lot of interviews where
Speaker 1: I get to interview people, but I'm on the other
Speaker 1: side too, We're right, so I actually get to see
Speaker 1: both sides of it sometimes. Question I said, and I
Speaker 1: had to do this book tour, and you know, you
Speaker 1: would do thirty in a row and everyone would come
Speaker 1: with the same easy question that was fed to them,
Speaker 1: you know, like what inspired you? Yeah, But and I
Speaker 1: understood it because I've been on that side. So I'm
Speaker 1: on both sides. But I wonder as artists, like what
Speaker 1: do you wish that people would ask you about more?
Speaker 1: M hmmm, um, good question, And no one ever asks
Speaker 1: us that I do wish, Um, you mean fans or
Speaker 1: interviewers an interview, you wish that you could talk about
Speaker 1: what more? Well, I know something that I frequently asked
Speaker 1: people who I'm you know, inspired by, is what inspired
Speaker 1: this specific song? Do you remember the moment? Do you
Speaker 1: remember the emotion? We don't get that specific question often
Speaker 1: by fans necessarily, Yeah, so I but I always ask that.
Speaker 1: So I guess that's what I would like to be asked.
Speaker 1: You would like to be asked about what specifically inspired
Speaker 1: a piece of something. Yeah, we voluntarily say it anyways
Speaker 1: when ever we're talking about the music, but we'd hardly
Speaker 1: ever get I like the like artsy fartsier stuff, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like. But also something that I
Speaker 1: do love about you two is you don't really throw
Speaker 1: softballs in interviews, like you will go right to the
Speaker 1: core or like the deeper stuff because I think jam
Speaker 1: heart to heart, oh man, that is like that is
Speaker 1: my favorite thing about interviews, Like when you can get
Speaker 1: like really deep and vulnerable and like talk about the
Speaker 1: great stuff, the bad stuff, that everything in between. That's
Speaker 1: my favorite. I wondered because you guys kind of went
Speaker 1: away for a bit, and I've talked to you guys
Speaker 1: about this for a second. But whenever you when dot
Speaker 1: your old record company goes away, Yeah, and so then
Speaker 1: you don't have a record deal for a bit, and
Speaker 1: then you go away to also, right, right, that's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: you guys want to And I didn't see you guys
Speaker 1: until Dirk's party at his his bar, I I did
Speaker 1: a song, So that's the first time I've seen you
Speaker 1: guys in a long time, was there? But when you
Speaker 1: go away after that, like, do you purposely try to
Speaker 1: stay out of public things? Is part of the mystique
Speaker 1: to hide as well? No, we we tried to wiggle
Speaker 1: our way into anything we could, which is why we
Speaker 1: started making YouTube videos and stuff like that, and um
Speaker 1: kind of started diving even more into clothing lines and
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to stay engaged. But our fans,
Speaker 1: we didn't really try to go away. It was just
Speaker 1: like we weren't the cool kids anymore. So it was
Speaker 1: like no one to just be totally honest, it felt
Speaker 1: like no one cared what we were saying because there's
Speaker 1: a ton of other people that their voice is louder
Speaker 1: than ours right now, which is totally fine because there's
Speaker 1: times for everything, but um, you know, you don't want
Speaker 1: to force something if like if you're just not the
Speaker 1: cool kid on the street right now, then you will
Speaker 1: be you'll get there, but it's just not not your
Speaker 1: street or not your time to be the cool kids.
Speaker 1: And contractually there was ninety days. I don't remember when
Speaker 1: the ninety days started, but it was ninety days between
Speaker 1: each record deal where we knew we were in talks
Speaker 1: with MG and we were having meetings and we knew
Speaker 1: that something was to start rolling, but we weren't allowed
Speaker 1: to say anything. So we went to a c M
Speaker 1: S to a c M. S Ago, having all of
Speaker 1: this knowledge of exciting stuff about tappen, but you couldn't
Speaker 1: say anything. So it was torture. And that's how we
Speaker 1: got the same publicist because Green Room Um actually covered
Speaker 1: our butts. So I mean, we're so grateful for them
Speaker 1: because we had no label, no publicists, no nothing, red carpet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're like, so what are y'all doing? We're like,
Speaker 1: one thing we're not allowed to talk about and the
Speaker 1: other thing is like out of our control. So you
Speaker 1: were telling the interviewers that because no one So okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's explain what a publicists this is fun, because yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what we do here is we
Speaker 1: kind of talk about things and we take for granted
Speaker 1: because we're so in it, but even my friends on
Speaker 1: our publicists, cause unless you have to have one, you
Speaker 1: just don't know what a publicist done, right, right, So, Taylor,
Speaker 1: what's a publicist? A publicist is somebody who takes care
Speaker 1: of the media aspect and kind of sets up interviews
Speaker 1: and set up like press and promotion. So, for example,
Speaker 1: whenever we release our record hopefully coming soon, our publicist
Speaker 1: will set up interviews to kind of talk about the
Speaker 1: record and set up um late night appearing, late night appearances,
Speaker 1: just things that we can be doing to promote the record.
Speaker 1: And yeah, the media stuff or see online if you
Speaker 1: say something bad or something doesn't go right. I've had
Speaker 1: to cover me a few times, so oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and a couple of times we have been to save
Speaker 1: me from things that never came out. I have done
Speaker 1: that many of times. But you did what no one's
Speaker 1: having to save you. Yeah. I haven't offended anyone, but
Speaker 1: I've said I've put my foot in my mouth like
Speaker 1: so many times. But it just kind of like slid under,
Speaker 1: which was good. Mine was, Like I would say, it
Speaker 1: actually happened about ten years ago, but the story came
Speaker 1: out last year, so but maybe not. Maybe seven years ago,
Speaker 1: whenever Twitter were starting to be a thing, I go, oh,
Speaker 1: you can buy Twitter of followers, and so I bought
Speaker 1: five thousand Twitter followers, and so I forgot about it,
Speaker 1: go buy and all of a sudden, the New York
Speaker 1: Time just calling my phone and I'm going, what what
Speaker 1: are they calling? They did this humongous expose on people
Speaker 1: who bought Twitter followers. I don't remember doing it first
Speaker 1: of all, and it was like kind of a joke,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like, oh no, no, not only the joke.
Speaker 1: You know, I bought all my friends Twitter Twitter follower
Speaker 1: bombed them, meaning I would buy them and they'd wake
Speaker 1: up and go, why do I have five thousand more?
Speaker 1: I thought it was the funniest thing ever. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then everyone took it way too serious. People started to
Speaker 1: get suspended from their jobs, like they oh, yeah, they
Speaker 1: found all these high profile people that have bought a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand Twitter followers, half of them, and I'm going,
Speaker 1: I'm on the same story with people who bought Oh no,
Speaker 1: and even then, who cares? Yeah seriously though? So yeah,
Speaker 1: so but they the same group. We're like, okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna hand so they handled that, and they were they
Speaker 1: were just kind of walking me through it, like because
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about it. I wanted to
Speaker 1: go on the radio and be like, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did this seven years ago. We went back and on
Speaker 1: the receipt about five thousand Twitter followered about like seven
Speaker 1: of my friends Twitter followers. But they were like, don't
Speaker 1: do it, and they kind of guided me through it.
Speaker 1: And then the story for the most part, kept me
Speaker 1: out of it because I wouldn't talk to them about it, right,
Speaker 1: But that's not how I was going to handle it.
Speaker 1: But I had to listen to the experts, totally lean
Speaker 1: on people that know the best. Yeah, I know, we
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't like anything bad, but um actually
Speaker 1: it's really great. But um. I was talking to Kirsten,
Speaker 1: our publicist, UM, just for people that don't know that
Speaker 1: we have the same one because we're saying names and
Speaker 1: people like who with that. But anyway, so I was
Speaker 1: telling her before I got engaged in May, I was like,
Speaker 1: hey me, and you know my boyfriend. You know at
Speaker 1: the time, what's the same boyfriend? But you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? So wait, hang on, so we how do
Speaker 1: I explain this? So I was asking her because I
Speaker 1: kind of had a feeling that he may propose this year,
Speaker 1: not as soon as he did, but like this year,
Speaker 1: because we were talking about it and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, what should we do if that happened? And
Speaker 1: she was like, okay, well this was what we'll do,
Speaker 1: and she's like, when we get there, we'll get there.
Speaker 1: Well after that conversation, he proposed like a week later,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, well, we're engaged, so that
Speaker 1: plan has to like, we gotta go now. So she
Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, I didn't knows this soon, but
Speaker 1: we'll go like it they'll good. So they kind of
Speaker 1: guide those press releases and stuff. What's the thought then,
Speaker 1: and I think both of you guys are probably in
Speaker 1: different stages talk about this. Uh, Mannie will talk to you.
Speaker 1: So you get engaged, and so how how quickly do
Speaker 1: you post a picture? Because you're a public person too,
Speaker 1: so there's kind of some strategy to the So what
Speaker 1: Jonah and I did was we okay, So we were
Speaker 1: going on vacation for our seven year anniversary in May
Speaker 1: at the end of May. So he proposed the night
Speaker 1: before we were leaving, and we both agreed. We were like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we want to go on our vacation
Speaker 1: and like not be blown up, Like I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so exciting. But we just called our close friends like
Speaker 1: obviously FaceTime table right after it happened, but um, like
Speaker 1: our families and told that they already knew that it
Speaker 1: was going to happen, so it was really just me
Speaker 1: telling them. But um, so we kept it secret for
Speaker 1: like a whole week, maybe a week and a half actually,
Speaker 1: because we wanted to go on vacation and not be
Speaker 1: on our phones and be present. And then um, after vacation,
Speaker 1: we flew to Houston, where I'm from, and my sister
Speaker 1: was graduating high school, so it was like we had
Speaker 1: a graduation thing and then we had an engagement party
Speaker 1: with our family and then you got to do a
Speaker 1: photo shoot. Yes, so we like pictures of the ring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so his cousin is a photographer, and basically we're like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you'll get some pictures for us, we'll just you know,
Speaker 1: do that and then just do a big announcement. But
Speaker 1: it was kind of fun keeping it secret for a
Speaker 1: little while. Not that it's anything to be secret, but
Speaker 1: it was just nice to have that. Yeah, like moment
Speaker 1: just for us us. You should, you should. How long
Speaker 1: did you have to keep that under wraps from the
Speaker 1: minute it happened until you put it on Instagram? How
Speaker 1: long was that? Yeah? Yeah, a little over a week, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that, because I was ready to post a picture,
Speaker 1: like if we get this roll in, because I'm a
Speaker 1: picture of my cash and okay, okay, so you're not engaged,
Speaker 1: but you do post pictures of your boyfriend. So that's
Speaker 1: a thing too, when you decide to finally post a
Speaker 1: picture of your significant other. That's something that I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of artists kind of have to well
Speaker 1: think about, like pre posting. I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: the same way, but for me being in a semi
Speaker 1: public relationship years ago, I know the consequences and the
Speaker 1: negatives of what it's like whenever it's no longer a
Speaker 1: relationship and then it's private and people think that they
Speaker 1: know more than they do, and then that's fine, but
Speaker 1: then you kind of want to take it all back,
Speaker 1: but you can't because it's out there. So I feel
Speaker 1: like it's it's a bit of a risk. But like
Speaker 1: with our music, it's a risk whenever we share our
Speaker 1: heart in our songs, so' she just took a minute like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, she had many, many discussions with Mattie. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, maybe allway, like a year
Speaker 1: after we've been dating, and then oh, y'all are like that.
Speaker 1: But such a great relationship and I'm happy and my
Speaker 1: fans deserve to know that I'm happy, and they deserve
Speaker 1: to know where my heart's at. So do you say
Speaker 1: his name josh I mean I know, yes, Joshua, Okay, Joshua, Joshua.
Speaker 1: So you do say his name? Yes? Okay? So but
Speaker 1: you waited how long until you put that up from
Speaker 1: when you started dating? Well, we kind of we did
Speaker 1: the dance the friends dance. Friends don't have plug plug
Speaker 1: you are literally friends. You and Josha Franks for a
Speaker 1: long time, well not a long time. So we met
Speaker 1: four years ago on radio tour and just knew of
Speaker 1: each other and but we had never written together until
Speaker 1: October of last year or this year. Last year. It's
Speaker 1: not set this year, so it's two thousand seventeen we
Speaker 1: wrote for the first time, and he and I had
Speaker 1: both just gotten out of relationships. So we were just like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to do this. Um, we're hanging out
Speaker 1: in the same friend group, but like, let's each individually
Speaker 1: take our time to kind of do some soul searching.
Speaker 1: And so then we kind of went back and forth,
Speaker 1: but we to each other, but I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: do anything about it, and so we went on our
Speaker 1: first date in December and then still kind of did
Speaker 1: the dance and then finally officially called each other put
Speaker 1: a label on it in March. But then, when when
Speaker 1: do you put the picture up? Though I didn't put
Speaker 1: it up until right before a c m S because
Speaker 1: I knew that, yeah, right before a c MS in April,
Speaker 1: So it's like the second week of April, and I
Speaker 1: knew that we were about to get on a plane
Speaker 1: to Vegas with the whole town of Nashville and people
Speaker 1: were going to see and it didn't you wanted to
Speaker 1: beat it, yes, exactly before people spread such a weird
Speaker 1: thing because and I asked these questions because I've dealt
Speaker 1: with the same, not dealt with I've been lucky enough
Speaker 1: to have great people that are public as well. So
Speaker 1: I've been into too public relationships and you learn that
Speaker 1: they have lives too, and people what they see, what
Speaker 1: people are saying, and I have grown my skin has
Speaker 1: grown stronger through the years from from from having people
Speaker 1: tell me I suck and awesome and all the things.
Speaker 1: But now they're getting into this world and they're being
Speaker 1: subjected to it kind of just by association. And then
Speaker 1: they go to their page and they find them they
Speaker 1: can write, so you know, I have my first one,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'll learn from that. Then
Speaker 1: I you know, David Lindsay and then but it's weird
Speaker 1: because then people want to know. Since they see all
Speaker 1: the happy stuff, They're like, oh, well, now we should
Speaker 1: know all the really bad stuff. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that they're wrong. I'm gonna say this, I don't know
Speaker 1: that people are wrong. It's a weird place to be
Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, it sucks for them. I think
Speaker 1: y'all handled it, or you and Lindsay because we were
Speaker 1: good friends with her too, like we love her. But um,
Speaker 1: I think that y'all handled it in like a super
Speaker 1: respectful way, like there was never or at least to
Speaker 1: my knowledge, there wasn't like any animosity and there we
Speaker 1: only had to split up because that's well, the other
Speaker 1: UM companies were penalizing her, so that was really the
Speaker 1: just absolutely disgusting. Well, I just wouldn't have happened to
Speaker 1: a dude, because I know dude artists that dated female
Speaker 1: radio and it didn't happen. It's so funky. So I
Speaker 1: don't get that. Well, even the dating thing, like people
Speaker 1: get so mad that like we're if people find out
Speaker 1: that we're in a committable really yeah, it's like you
Speaker 1: have to seem available in sexy and oh yeah, confinitely,
Speaker 1: why don't but people know? I will say. There was
Speaker 1: an observation made by our merch girl that was out
Speaker 1: on the road with us this past weekend, and she
Speaker 1: was watching the audience while Maddie was introducing Trying On Rings,
Speaker 1: which is a song about her and Jonah's love story.
Speaker 1: It's on the new record and we haven't heard yet. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so you're a plan I want to come back. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're giving the sneak peaks. So Maddie was introducing the
Speaker 1: song and the moment she said, I'm engaged in my
Speaker 1: house called sweetheart Sarah, our merch girl was watching a
Speaker 1: group of guys and they just apparently like threw their
Speaker 1: hands in the air and was pissed. I don't know
Speaker 1: him and high, and I'm like, why because you thought,
Speaker 1: like because she thought you had a chance. I don't know, well,
Speaker 1: not even that. It's just like, I'm not your property.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, like, you bought a ticket to the
Speaker 1: show and we're going to entertain you and we're not
Speaker 1: have a great time, but don't make it weird. You can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can like our music without wanting to date it.
Speaker 1: Like I love Harry Styles so much, and if he
Speaker 1: ever got engaged or whatever, I would be like, that's great.
Speaker 1: I still love you a lot, and I think you
Speaker 1: are so handsome and so talented, but we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: it there. Yeah, he's so awesome. I saw him at
Speaker 1: the rhyme and I was like, how did you go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jonah came with me too, and I just looked at it.
Speaker 1: I was like, he was one of the only guys
Speaker 1: in there. Actually, Gator Harrison was there, yes, with his
Speaker 1: daughter sitting right behind us, and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thank god, there's another dude here. It is a bit
Speaker 1: unfair to be a female in music, not just country
Speaker 1: music and all music. I mean, look at the dudes
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna care if I say this. But
Speaker 1: I'm the prints with John Party. Yeah, he makes his
Speaker 1: shirts ironed, he puts his hat on, and he goes
Speaker 1: out and he plays this show. You guys mentioned that
Speaker 1: you gotta get all aside from the music part of it,
Speaker 1: which is even more so. There's just so many more
Speaker 1: steps that you have to go through as a female artist,
Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you don't even get
Speaker 1: the same I'll say fair look that the male artists get,
Speaker 1: because I'm never the guy that thinks there should be anything. Ever,
Speaker 1: I think the best. I think, look, as long as
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna an equal look. It could be seventy thirty
Speaker 1: female to male, male to female. I don't care as
Speaker 1: long as people get the equal look. And I think
Speaker 1: people go, oh, Bobby is guy not at all? No, No,
Speaker 1: I think let's just look at things based on merit.
Speaker 1: More so than because I was talking to a female
Speaker 1: artist friend of mine and I know you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna relate to this, and she goes, oh, I can't, uh,
Speaker 1: this label already has a female. And the fact that
Speaker 1: you have to go, oh, well, this label already has
Speaker 1: a female, so they can have another one that's somewhat
Speaker 1: all the dudes are the same. Yeah, why can't there
Speaker 1: be two people so they have a kind of a
Speaker 1: like set. We had to consider that when we moved,
Speaker 1: they were trying to put us, you know, and this
Speaker 1: is not to discredit our record label because we love them,
Speaker 1: but in reality, you like, it is hard about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's so weird that there's only so many spots
Speaker 1: for females. But Ty and I always say, like, we
Speaker 1: we don't want to play softball, Like, don't pity us
Speaker 1: because we're women, Like, we want to play baseball with
Speaker 1: the boys, and best song wins and best artists wins,
Speaker 1: like don't care of your chick or a dude whatever
Speaker 1: it is, like the most town, and if it's not us,
Speaker 1: that's fair. But if there's not a fair look at everyone,
Speaker 1: that's where it gets a little wonky. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: if everyone gets a fair shot and we don't, we're
Speaker 1: not you know, the winning ticket or whatever, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But as long as it's looked at, you get the
Speaker 1: chance to put your best foot forward. Yeah, totally tell
Speaker 1: me about this song, so you guys kind of come
Speaker 1: on and you do. Girl in a Country Song played
Speaker 1: a little bit Girl in the Country Song so do
Speaker 1: you guys still like the song? I do. It's I
Speaker 1: was trying to think about how many times we've played it,
Speaker 1: Like it's only been four years. I mean, that's still
Speaker 1: a long time. But like I was like, I wonder
Speaker 1: how many times, Like I would be curious to know
Speaker 1: the number of thousands. With radio tour doing like three
Speaker 1: shows a day for a year and a half, we
Speaker 1: gotta be in that in the thousand brackets somehow easily
Speaker 1: a thousand, Yeah, I would think easily a thousand. But
Speaker 1: this song, so it was kind of a rocket ship
Speaker 1: for you guys, at least from my side of it. It
Speaker 1: It was like and I kind of just started too,
Speaker 1: you know, I just moved from the world and I
Speaker 1: come over and I'm, you know, the guy that's and
Speaker 1: everybody hates me because I'm so different, and they're like ah,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh good, these girls are different too,
Speaker 1: And you guys come in and first of all, you're
Speaker 1: really good. But there's there's a novelty to this song
Speaker 1: too at the same thing. And so but it was
Speaker 1: just like the videos like Splash, like here you are
Speaker 1: and yeah, I watched that video recently, like for the
Speaker 1: first time in years, and I was like, I haven't.
Speaker 1: We were some ballsy eighteen year old girls like whoa.
Speaker 1: I guess I did not realize how big of a
Speaker 1: deal this song was until like going through what we've
Speaker 1: been through the past couple of years, or I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, like this is not gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: if God forbid everything like just like fell apart or whatever,
Speaker 1: because I mean it has for us, you know, last year.
Speaker 1: But if all of that happened over again, at least
Speaker 1: like we said something like we said something that was
Speaker 1: important and needed to be said, and I would love
Speaker 1: to keep doing that obviously, but um, just watching that back,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like we were fearless? How did that happen?
Speaker 1: This song comes out though in this sense it's your
Speaker 1: first song. Do you guys think that's normal? Like was
Speaker 1: that norm? Was it? Like? This is? Oh, this is
Speaker 1: how it's done. We have a song or a bit
Speaker 1: where you're like, whoa this is It's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to compare it to something that you've never had. Something
Speaker 1: else that was that was the issue, If I can
Speaker 1: say issue, it really wasn't an issue because it was
Speaker 1: a blessing and it got us to where we are now.
Speaker 1: But if there's anything the con to that was just
Speaker 1: being so green and almost like, I mean, we were
Speaker 1: a baby artist. We like you said, we had nothing
Speaker 1: to compare it to, and so our whole team the
Speaker 1: entire time Girl was rising up the charts and doing
Speaker 1: all of these milestones. It was like they said, this
Speaker 1: isn't normal. You're not You're gonna have to work much
Speaker 1: much harder on your next single, and they were trying
Speaker 1: to warn us, but we still didn't have that experience
Speaker 1: in our in our back pocket to kind of draw from.
Speaker 1: So for us in a way at the time, it
Speaker 1: was normal, which is crazy to think back and look at, like,
Speaker 1: I wish I would have had more experience so I
Speaker 1: could cherish those moments more and not just like like
Speaker 1: stop and smell the roses first. Like, even though it
Speaker 1: sounds so cliche, like I don't remember a lot of
Speaker 1: that because it was just like onto the next day, Okay,
Speaker 1: you did the Today's Show as your first full band show. Great, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go do it again. It found like it was
Speaker 1: just nuts and I'm like, I don't know how we
Speaker 1: did all that, but um, I'm kind of glad that
Speaker 1: we are so like green and like um, just and
Speaker 1: furious because we would do anything like now we know better,
Speaker 1: like don't play three shows in one day. You're gonna
Speaker 1: wear yourself out and it's gonna mess you up. Like
Speaker 1: don't do that, like you know, just stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Or don't fly from Orlando to New York back to
Speaker 1: Orlando in one day and do three shows. That's not
Speaker 1: a good idea. Just just say no. Sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to say no to things. But I'm glad that it
Speaker 1: happened then, and it kind of gives us I don't know,
Speaker 1: it gives us perspective on like we have done this before.
Speaker 1: It's not going to be as easy this next go round.
Speaker 1: But it did it a little backwards. I sometimes I
Speaker 1: wish it was slipped, but it's okay. So that song
Speaker 1: did it hit one? Did? So it goes to number one?
Speaker 1: And what's the next single after that? Fly? Okay, So
Speaker 1: Fly comes out and doesn't go number one. It was
Speaker 1: a number seven, but it impacted really well, which was
Speaker 1: kind of cool. We knew the the hardness of what
Speaker 1: was to come with that song too, and it was
Speaker 1: a ballad. Were in the summer. They're all these rules,
Speaker 1: but so this song comes out, I love you the
Speaker 1: song by the way about I'm only asking this backward,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't go number one. So you've had a
Speaker 1: number one, then you have one that doesn't go number one.
Speaker 1: What do you think after that? I was really happy
Speaker 1: because people were The way I measured it personally was
Speaker 1: how people were singing back when we were on stage
Speaker 1: and they were singing fly and still do just as
Speaker 1: loud as girl. So to me that was a number
Speaker 1: one song, like maybe not on the charts, but form
Speaker 1: for our fans and for my spirit. I was like,
Speaker 1: we landed another one. This is a message song to
Speaker 1: message songs resonate, you know, and and ballad you can
Speaker 1: actually listen to the words right now. I try to
Speaker 1: walk that line of I still try to be a
Speaker 1: consumer as much as I possibly can. And most people
Speaker 1: hear melody, that's all they hear in the song before
Speaker 1: they Again. I have to remember this because I you know,
Speaker 1: I write comedy and I write song dumb songs and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, the lyrics, they're they're very important,
Speaker 1: but most people hear the melody first and listen, I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you're saying, and so, but slower songs,
Speaker 1: people can actually hear the words and get the message
Speaker 1: to it, which is kind of a weird thing, and
Speaker 1: that's also a strong message song. Yeah, and so um, Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Fly comes out, you're like, okay, cool, I
Speaker 1: didn't go number one, but we still loved it because
Speaker 1: people loved it. Okay, next song. Next song was shut
Speaker 1: Up Fish, shut him Fish. Yeah. By the way, I
Speaker 1: know all the answers to this, I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: walking you guys, I'm trying to think of the purpose
Speaker 1: of the order of singles. I know that the reason
Speaker 1: we put out Fly after Girl was because of, you know,
Speaker 1: just the comments after releasing Girl. These girls are yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly their one. I wonder this is all they can do,
Speaker 1: This is all they can say that there will be
Speaker 1: nothing about this, And so we wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: prove our place in the industry and say, hey, no,
Speaker 1: like we can be deep too, as nineteen year old girls,
Speaker 1: we have depth to us. So that's why we released Fly,
Speaker 1: and that's why we were fine with it going top ten,
Speaker 1: because it's still made an impact and we were able
Speaker 1: to show a different side of us. And so with Fish, Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like it kind of we kind of tried
Speaker 1: to go back two girl in a way, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Our team was still very new at DOT
Speaker 1: and so a newer team only been together a couple
Speaker 1: of years, and basically everyone was like, Hey, we already
Speaker 1: did this and this is close to this, so let's
Speaker 1: do it again. And the fourth single, which we pulled
Speaker 1: like super fast Sierra, Um, that was kind of the
Speaker 1: same situational, quirky and funny and yeah, and like it
Speaker 1: was like the one trick pony thing. We're like, there's
Speaker 1: more on this record. But I mean, Sierra, I still
Speaker 1: love that song, but I'm personally glad add that that
Speaker 1: didn't work because it's about my actual high school bully
Speaker 1: and I did not want to out her like that,
Speaker 1: but that's kind I had to text her and be like, look,
Speaker 1: haven't heard for me in three years. We're not on
Speaker 1: great terms, but I just want to let you know
Speaker 1: the song. She knew about the song because like it
Speaker 1: accidentally got leaked two weeks before I graduated because I
Speaker 1: sent it to a girl differently. Um, But basically, she
Speaker 1: was just the girl that every guy wanted, which is
Speaker 1: totally reasonable because she's beautiful, but just like, I mean,
Speaker 1: if she could make anyone feel smaller or just less than,
Speaker 1: she took that opportunity. And because she could, she's the
Speaker 1: hottest chicken school and every guy wants her and UM.
Speaker 1: And so the girl that actually transferred high schools because
Speaker 1: of her UM I sent it to her and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I feel like I finally
Speaker 1: stood up to her and all this stuff. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, well, don't send this to any one.
Speaker 1: I'm about to move to Nashville and you can send
Speaker 1: it toever you want then, but first let me get
Speaker 1: out of town. And that didn't happen. So the whole
Speaker 1: school heard it, and she was like, you know, just
Speaker 1: Twitter ranting, like man, he's obsessed with me. That F
Speaker 1: and B is all this stuff. So I was like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna win again. So I pulled up in
Speaker 1: my truck at school and I went into my parking
Speaker 1: place and I turned the song up all the way
Speaker 1: up our little demo, and I just sat there and
Speaker 1: her little friend group was standing right there, and I
Speaker 1: was just looking at them, like, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 1: I wrote this song because you're mean to a lot
Speaker 1: of That's what we call little Texas. Yeah, little Texas
Speaker 1: is this very feisty crazy, not crazy, but like you're
Speaker 1: just I will fight back, like I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: a doormat. There's something to put in her name on
Speaker 1: the Yeah. I I came home crying so many times
Speaker 1: through junior high and high school because of her, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know, they've just felt like I felt
Speaker 1: empowered by like writing this song and hey Tara, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It worked perfect though, because she was in pageants. So
Speaker 1: the Tierra line like well, and her best friend in
Speaker 1: school was named Tierra literally her name. So let me
Speaker 1: share it. Let me share a story. When I wrote
Speaker 1: I wrote my wrote my first book. I had a
Speaker 1: story about an artist that I had really had a
Speaker 1: really miserable relationship with. It was just it was just
Speaker 1: not good okay country artists, and it was really bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't And I wrote it and I was like
Speaker 1: put it in, screw it, and put it out. So
Speaker 1: my manager Corn comes up to me and goes, hey,
Speaker 1: you should take this out of the book, And I said,
Speaker 1: why is that? Because you're really not gonna like the
Speaker 1: fact that in five years you might actually be friends
Speaker 1: with this person. You don't want there. You kind of
Speaker 1: just I don't want their name. You don't you don't
Speaker 1: want to put their their name name. He said, write
Speaker 1: it as a like, you know, somebody generic. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I took it out of the book and then
Speaker 1: we later become really good friends. It's Kip kept so
Speaker 1: funny and the best thing here because because it was
Speaker 1: just a story about us getting into a fight once
Speaker 1: and Kevin I went to figured it all out, we're
Speaker 1: actually really good now and I'm so glad I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just wonder, like with you with the did you
Speaker 1: ever think maybe she didn't name it something else and
Speaker 1: not her specifically. I felt like there was a lot
Speaker 1: of people that needed that song. And the minute that
Speaker 1: we started meeting having fans and meeting fans, and they
Speaker 1: started connecting with that song and telling me I have
Speaker 1: a Sierra, I have someone that you know. And I
Speaker 1: feel so much power with this song. And there are
Speaker 1: so many people that share their like bullying stories. And
Speaker 1: since the song is more like upbeat and fun, it
Speaker 1: kind of shines a lighter light on a really bad situation.
Speaker 1: So I felt like we did the right thing by
Speaker 1: making it so personal, because I feel like sometimes when
Speaker 1: you do the softball thing and you do the generic,
Speaker 1: it may not connect as deep as the authentic thing.
Speaker 1: So I was willing to take the hit, and she
Speaker 1: when I messaged her and told her, she was like,
Speaker 1: no hard failings, like hope everything is good. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I know, but you gotta think if someone wrote a
Speaker 1: song about how awful you were, you'd probably clean up
Speaker 1: your act, or at least I would. I would be like,
Speaker 1: I have got to check my soul. I would be
Speaker 1: like if someone I heard double down, so okay, so
Speaker 1: that song, that song it gets pulled. I don't even
Speaker 1: know where that maybe, yeah, but that was that was
Speaker 1: the right Did the record label go down before the
Speaker 1: song was pulled? Like? What was the timing? It was
Speaker 1: like on the d L. Funky stuff was happening. I
Speaker 1: think after the song got pulled, yeah, because it was
Speaker 1: the very end of UM two thousand sixteen where I
Speaker 1: think it all started to the cookie started to crumble.
Speaker 1: But we had no idea until uh, February of two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. So how does that conversation go when they
Speaker 1: pull you in and they say, hey, Maddie Tay, let's
Speaker 1: sit down for us. Do they call you in at
Speaker 1: the same time. Thankfully, our our manager did some little
Speaker 1: investigating and she was very close with the head of
Speaker 1: the label over there, so they were always in contact
Speaker 1: and he would be straight up with her. And so
Speaker 1: I remember sitting down at Pinewood Social actually at the bar,
Speaker 1: and we were just having breakfast during CRS and she
Speaker 1: just kind of said, Hey, I think something is about
Speaker 1: to happen. We don't know what, but just just know this.
Speaker 1: Whatever happens, I promised, like, I'll take care of you.
Speaker 1: So so then they say, okay, the labels folding, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have a record deal. What immediately happens in
Speaker 1: you guys mind? I knew that it wasn't like over
Speaker 1: because Tay and I were in it to win it
Speaker 1: like there's this is not splitting no matter what BS
Speaker 1: goes down, um, And so I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it was kind of fuzzy. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I tried to like numb it because it it felt
Speaker 1: really bad after going from like the top the world
Speaker 1: and then it's like, so what are y'all doing? How
Speaker 1: does it feel to not have a like label home?
Speaker 1: It's like it feels terrible and you and you feel
Speaker 1: like you have nothing to show forth, and um, it's
Speaker 1: felt like that for the past year and a half. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's like, because this industry, you're always trying to prove yourself.
Speaker 1: You're always trying to like not prove yourself, but like
Speaker 1: you're always wanting to. Like it's always onto the next
Speaker 1: thing and the next thing and the next thing. We
Speaker 1: don't have the next thing yet, obviously we have coming. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And then we were in that like weird holding period,
Speaker 1: and that was where like, I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: experienced this, but I had a really bad issue with
Speaker 1: tying my self worth into what I did and not
Speaker 1: who I was. Absolutely I think we all do. If
Speaker 1: we really work hard at what if you give it everything,
Speaker 1: if it's your priority, it's hard for it not to
Speaker 1: be where you put your worth. I've struggle and I
Speaker 1: still struggle with that every single day. It's a I
Speaker 1: mean even now, like we have a song out and
Speaker 1: things are a lot better, but I we still struggle.
Speaker 1: Like it's I mean, it's a normal thing. But those
Speaker 1: like maybe four months that felt like five years of
Speaker 1: this like in between phase was where I just slowly
Speaker 1: started unraveling that whole web of like, Okay, I am
Speaker 1: not what I do, I am who I am. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure who I am is like,
Speaker 1: like what do I want people to see? What do
Speaker 1: I want to give out to the world in an
Speaker 1: odd way? Aren't you a bit grateful for that experience?
Speaker 1: You would never walk yourself into it because you would
Speaker 1: never go, you know what, I really want to find
Speaker 1: it who I am? So let's let things suck for us,
Speaker 1: but mine have. I got find a million dollars by
Speaker 1: the FCC like three years ago, and for me that
Speaker 1: was I thought I was done and that was like
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I don't because
Speaker 1: there's nothing else to find because you kind of suck.
Speaker 1: I was find with myself it kind of sucks. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, let me try to find the reason I'm
Speaker 1: still good. And so I'm trying to find like and
Speaker 1: I'm glad because I was getting a little too obnoxious
Speaker 1: about that time. It really reset me into hey, oh yes,
Speaker 1: you got you got a little caught up. That's with
Speaker 1: me talking to myself. You've got a little caught up
Speaker 1: in all of that. Stop you just gotta find a
Speaker 1: million dollars and if you get through this, you're gonna
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much more and you're really gonna work
Speaker 1: to help others that are going through similar struggles. So
Speaker 1: that happened with me, and it sounds like probably happened
Speaker 1: to you guys too, because when you hit that down,
Speaker 1: you go oh, and you appreciate it so much more
Speaker 1: as it kind of rehappening again. Oh yeah, you need
Speaker 1: those moments to check yourself. I mean yeah, but they
Speaker 1: still happen. I mean, I melted down on Tay what
Speaker 1: three days ago. I just had to let it out,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it's just that cline game of just like
Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm sure you felt this, Like if
Speaker 1: a crowd doesn't receive you will or doesn't like cheer
Speaker 1: you on, Like how do you not get affected by that?
Speaker 1: But you're putting everything that you have into a crowd
Speaker 1: and maybe they're just not feeling it, or maybe they
Speaker 1: just don't show it and they're loving it and they
Speaker 1: just don't show it. So how do you not feel
Speaker 1: like the worst entertainer? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: just that whole mind game that comes with the job.
Speaker 1: It's funny you bring that up and I just talked
Speaker 1: about kid. But that's the thing that Kip and I've
Speaker 1: talked about a few times, like off microphones, like it's that.
Speaker 1: So I do stand up comedy and I I watched
Speaker 1: the people, but I can't watch their faces anymore. I
Speaker 1: have to watch their heads because I can't assign how
Speaker 1: I react to something funny to what how they're reacting
Speaker 1: to me because we all react differently, right, so someone
Speaker 1: may be thinking it's really funny, and they may not
Speaker 1: be a laugh out loud and they're just saying and
Speaker 1: the same thing that people was like, man, I would
Speaker 1: get so mad when people would not look up or
Speaker 1: they'd be on their phones, and it was, Hey, that
Speaker 1: just might be how they're receptive to your But it's
Speaker 1: a heart change. Trying not to take it personal is
Speaker 1: a battle. But yeah, for sure, I feel like going
Speaker 1: back to what you said is being thankful about going
Speaker 1: through the trial is the people that we are now,
Speaker 1: which every day we're figuring out who we are and
Speaker 1: what our purposes and all of that and becoming the
Speaker 1: best version of ourselves. But two years ago, a year ago,
Speaker 1: the people that we were dramatically different, and I love
Speaker 1: we loved we were then, but we love ourselves even
Speaker 1: more now and the record that we created would not
Speaker 1: have been possible without the emotions that we felt doing
Speaker 1: and really crappy to. Our friendship is a different level too,
Speaker 1: like we're like sisters. Yeah, it's like beyond any of that.
Speaker 1: Like there's just like when you go through the trenches
Speaker 1: with someone and there's not a doubt, like we're we're
Speaker 1: in our own marriage basically like we are, like there
Speaker 1: is no backing out, like we are in it when it.
Speaker 1: We're in this together. We support each other. If one
Speaker 1: of us is having an off day, the other one
Speaker 1: makes up for it. And that's why I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: being a solo artist, I don't know how you go
Speaker 1: out there and freaking do that by yourself? Do you really?
Speaker 1: I believe you. You really can't trust some one until
Speaker 1: you have to trust someone and they come through. I
Speaker 1: have the same thing with my coach. You should put
Speaker 1: that in a book. Is that already in one of
Speaker 1: your books? That's good. That's a really good, like classic quote,
Speaker 1: because you really don't know until it has to happen,
Speaker 1: and then once it happens, you have Then you guys
Speaker 1: have experienced that my coast and I have experienced that.
Speaker 1: Amy and I we've been together for four fourteen years
Speaker 1: or so and so, but we've had you know, her
Speaker 1: mom died, my mom died, her kids from the orphanage.
Speaker 1: We've had to have it to the back so many
Speaker 1: times in situations that weren't good. But then you realize
Speaker 1: and you have that trust that hey, oh if they're
Speaker 1: not good again, we may fight, we may have but
Speaker 1: like we're in it, yes, and you really don't know
Speaker 1: that until you have to know that. And sometimes it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. Sometimes you with someone you go, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. Like there's put pressure on it,
Speaker 1: so it breaks. But if it's stronger through pressure, then
Speaker 1: you realize you can actually go a little bit deeper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's yeah. Everyone asked like, so, like did y'all think
Speaker 1: about breaking up? We're like, we didn't. That was not
Speaker 1: even one thing. Like we thought, maybe we won't get
Speaker 1: to be artists again, but we'll still be songwriters or
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we're gonna have to like go get
Speaker 1: a job at Walmart to pay the bit, like I mean,
Speaker 1: if it never get like that. But um, just because
Speaker 1: we started the whole thing as songwriters and so if anything,
Speaker 1: but we we want it so bad and we will
Speaker 1: and we work so hard that like it, it's that's
Speaker 1: our that's gonna be our thing. This is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be hard, which is fine. I do.
Speaker 1: I do not mind the uphill climb this time because
Speaker 1: it's like there's a gratefulness that will exude from us
Speaker 1: that will hopefully inspire other people. Makes a heck of
Speaker 1: a story. Yeah, we gotta damn good story. You guys
Speaker 1: make enough money with the first song to be okay
Speaker 1: for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Mattie and I are very
Speaker 1: very careful with our money. Yeah we don't. We have
Speaker 1: both have paid off cars, um very conservative home, like
Speaker 1: we just but I don't know. I don't watch that Gucci.
Speaker 1: I'm like a principal person. I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you're like making millions of dollars,
Speaker 1: like treat yourself, but my treat myself is like getting
Speaker 1: a pedicure once a month or something, you know, But
Speaker 1: I don't know. My parents always give me so much
Speaker 1: grief because they're like, like we grew up like you know,
Speaker 1: middle class like it wasn't like we were poor, but
Speaker 1: I like I pretend like I'm poor, like I just
Speaker 1: saved my money and make sure like if anything ever happened,
Speaker 1: I had it in savings. I don't. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: like to live like the end of the world, because
Speaker 1: I like to leave room for God to perform as miracles.
Speaker 1: But it's like a middle ground, like I have enough
Speaker 1: to live and I'm not I'm not dying. I'm not
Speaker 1: crazy poor and I'm not crazy rich. I'm somewhere in
Speaker 1: the middle, and it's good. It works for where's like
Speaker 1: the you know that Jody Messina song the I'm above
Speaker 1: below and the low I'm stuck in the middle where
Speaker 1: our money is type. But I guess doing all right.
Speaker 1: I love that song. That line is so cool, so
Speaker 1: maybe that's where we were stuck in the middle where
Speaker 1: when he gets no, I'm just kidding. Any other cuts
Speaker 1: from have you given your song to other people? Have
Speaker 1: you any other cuts? She cut a song called Boomerang
Speaker 1: that we wrote um and we got to see her
Speaker 1: perform at one time, and that was pretty awesome. Awesome,
Speaker 1: Like it's a whole different kind of cool. It's a
Speaker 1: cool because you do what you do. But when someone
Speaker 1: else takes your song, yeah, regardless, like if someone else
Speaker 1: thinks it's good enough, maybe someone who gave it to her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: But if someone thinks it's good enough and they cut
Speaker 1: and they spend the money and then they sing it
Speaker 1: like you created that, and it's like you, it's like
Speaker 1: a nephew. Yeah. Kid, it's like a nephew yes, where
Speaker 1: you get to like like oh my gosh, and you
Speaker 1: just get to like pass it on. It really is.
Speaker 1: It's even more validation of being a good songwriter because
Speaker 1: if someone else wants it, yeah, because obviously we can
Speaker 1: get on stage and sing the songs that we wrote.
Speaker 1: But if someone else wants to get one agent singing
Speaker 1: the song that we wrote, it's pretty cool. So let's
Speaker 1: let's go to now. So you do you shop record labels?
Speaker 1: Do you do you? You talked to a few of them? Okay,
Speaker 1: how does that one? Did you beg for? What happens now?
Speaker 1: So it's really confusing even for people in the industry.
Speaker 1: Breaking down for me as simple as possible, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of idiot. No, you're not an idiot at all, but okay,
Speaker 1: for me, it's hard to explain. So basically DOT was
Speaker 1: a co venture between Universal New York and Big Machine
Speaker 1: so UM which I mean they both owned it. They
Speaker 1: both owned it, so she helped fund. Yes, but in
Speaker 1: New York, so like Ariana Grande Drake, like all them.
Speaker 1: So when Dot folded, since UMG funded it, they had
Speaker 1: first right of refusal. So basically they said, okay, u
Speaker 1: MG New York, are there any artists on this roster
Speaker 1: that you want? Um and if you don't want them,
Speaker 1: then we'll put them on other Big Machine or like,
Speaker 1: if you just don't feel like it's a fit, we'll
Speaker 1: move them to other Big Machine imprints. But but you
Speaker 1: get the first option. So they we were the only
Speaker 1: ones that moved. So at the time we were thinking like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is like why didn't Why are
Speaker 1: we the only ones? But like hindsight, it's like, wait,
Speaker 1: freaking um G. New York is huge and we have
Speaker 1: like really good buddies over there. Monty and Avery are awesome.
Speaker 1: But so basically Universal New York was like, look, we're
Speaker 1: in New York. We can't work these girls from here.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they could, but um yeah, and
Speaker 1: so U m G. Nashville was like, well, hey, let's
Speaker 1: figure something out so we can both kind of work together.
Speaker 1: So um, so we knew we were UMG for a while,
Speaker 1: but it was deciding which imprints. So was it going
Speaker 1: to be m c A, Was it going to be Mercury?
Speaker 1: Was it going to be um which there are different
Speaker 1: little just like yeah, I guess like different companies. Surely
Speaker 1: you would have the Cubs and the Braves. Yes, like
Speaker 1: Sam Haunt is under U m G m c A
Speaker 1: and we are UMG Mercury. So they had rights to you.
Speaker 1: So they thank you. That's good. Yeah, okay, so we
Speaker 1: felt wanted it was nice. Yeah, So you go and
Speaker 1: you go. So what does it start? Do you start
Speaker 1: making music? You start writing songs and they say go right,
Speaker 1: and then bring back what you have, like what what's
Speaker 1: the first conversation? First things first was deciding because we
Speaker 1: had started to cut a record end of two thousand sixteen,
Speaker 1: December of two thousand sixteen with Big Machines Big Machine.
Speaker 1: So first things first was deciding do we want to
Speaker 1: keep that music or do we want to scrap it
Speaker 1: and completely go different direction for the second record. If
Speaker 1: you kept it, did you have to pay for it?
Speaker 1: Or give them points on it, or wasn't all yours
Speaker 1: it was ours because we're Big Machine Publishing, so they
Speaker 1: didn't want to piss us off because they're still making
Speaker 1: money off of our songs to Big Machine Publishing. Because
Speaker 1: we're really tight with everyone there, so we could, but
Speaker 1: at that moment, deciding whether we wanted to use them
Speaker 1: was more or less is this still where we're at
Speaker 1: in our lives or is this what we're still going
Speaker 1: to write about or are we past that now? Are we?
Speaker 1: Is it time to be mature women? And so we
Speaker 1: just came to the decision with Stephanie right at u MG.
Speaker 1: She's the A n R over there, and she kind
Speaker 1: of so A and R is a position where they
Speaker 1: help you decide what songs you want on a record
Speaker 1: and what producer would be great to cut those songs
Speaker 1: for you and all that kind of stuff. So we
Speaker 1: sat down with her and that was just kind of
Speaker 1: how everything got rolling. She said, all right, you guys,
Speaker 1: dig in and write whatever you want to write and
Speaker 1: will reconvene when whenever you feel like it's time to.
Speaker 1: And we're like, really, we can go make a record
Speaker 1: that we want to make, And she said yeah, so
Speaker 1: we did. There wasn't rush to write songs to get
Speaker 1: good songs because you wanted to get back on the
Speaker 1: kind of back on the scene or no, because we
Speaker 1: had already had like the album that we have now.
Speaker 1: We probably wrote half of those songs when we were
Speaker 1: still at DOT. Like there was still there's some you
Speaker 1: know songs that we wrote years ago, maybe just a
Speaker 1: year ago. Um, but most of the record was written
Speaker 1: through that really really rough time of like that in
Speaker 1: between things. But um, we I mean we sat down
Speaker 1: with maybe like thirty six songs and had to like
Speaker 1: like we love this song, but had to cross it off,
Speaker 1: and like it just turned into this like concept record
Speaker 1: where it kind of starts with the friends don't like
Speaker 1: you know who's going to make the move, and then
Speaker 1: it goes into this in love phase and then it
Speaker 1: goes into the heartbreak phase, and then the end of
Speaker 1: the record is this like really like powerful redemptive thing
Speaker 1: where there's like four songs back to back all about
Speaker 1: like just feeling yourself again and getting your power back
Speaker 1: and getting back on your feet. And so when we
Speaker 1: sat there and talked about it, we were like, well,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we've been through the past couple
Speaker 1: of years. So even though it is through the eyes
Speaker 1: of our relationship, it's we're telling our truth on this
Speaker 1: record more than ever. Play some of this song here's
Speaker 1: the friends don't just saying so is just the first
Speaker 1: track on the new record? So is that part of
Speaker 1: the strategy and putting it up first? Yeah? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: it's the beginning of the record, at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the story. It would be really cool to release singles.
Speaker 1: But if we released our singles kind of in the
Speaker 1: same sequence as a story, that would be awesome. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be the case,
Speaker 1: but yeah, obviously yeah. Our label head Damon is leaning
Speaker 1: towards that too, because he he loves the story and
Speaker 1: loves the like art that is behind the record. It's
Speaker 1: not just like, hey, let's pick some songs and put
Speaker 1: it on an album. It was like, wait, no, this
Speaker 1: is a whole story from top to bottom. So when
Speaker 1: is this hype at record coming out? I know it
Speaker 1: is a hypothetical record, right the first are you timing it?
Speaker 1: Kind of what the song is? That? What the thing is? Now? Like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we would love to obviously create traction with Friends don't
Speaker 1: and make sure that it's you know, impacting the way
Speaker 1: we would like for it to. Then to release the record,
Speaker 1: so people are I want to listen to it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: theoretically end of this year, early next year, just depending
Speaker 1: on that's not terribly far to us. It feels like
Speaker 1: it because we got this record in January. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: so it'll be a year when it comes out like
Speaker 1: it is going to be the most rewarding. And if it,
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe that this is going to be
Speaker 1: a game changing record for us. But even if it's not,
Speaker 1: just the accomplishment of putting out another record after all
Speaker 1: we've been through, be happy just that and everything else
Speaker 1: as icing on the cake. Mm hmm. Interesting. I believe you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want all of the great things. I
Speaker 1: want people to connect. My dream is that people all
Speaker 1: can hear their own stories, like we get really nitty gritty.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can play you a couple of songs the correcord.
Speaker 1: I won't listen to songs. I don't listen to songs never, no, no, no, really,
Speaker 1: I don't listen to anybody's new songs ever before because
Speaker 1: you want to know, this is what happens if I
Speaker 1: open that door up for one person everybody. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: forget that that's part of your job and it's not
Speaker 1: fun friends that are artists, and so even someone like Dirks,
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I can't don't because I don't do
Speaker 1: it for anybody, and and Dark is like my dude,
Speaker 1: yeahs sense. So yeah, I don't do it for anyone ever.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because you know I like music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just don't want to. You don't want to be unfair,
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier. You want to give
Speaker 1: everyone of Yeah, I just want to bother it all
Speaker 1: the time. Because it was like, hey, listen to the
Speaker 1: song that I gotta get after the fake head thing
Speaker 1: where I'm like, when you live in Nashville, hey, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Though you wanna give an honest response when
Speaker 1: someone let you listen to the song. You don't want
Speaker 1: to just say oh I like it, I like it,
Speaker 1: I like it, I like it. I feel like you
Speaker 1: know what happens. Sometimes I get a text methods from
Speaker 1: someone and go, hey, buddy, it's I don't know the number,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, buddy, like, yeah, I want you to
Speaker 1: have a new single. Check it out. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even know who this is, and then you have to
Speaker 1: go back and scroll and trying to figure out who
Speaker 1: it is through context clues. I think if I were you,
Speaker 1: If I were you, I would feel like because most
Speaker 1: of the time when people do that, it's probably because
Speaker 1: they're working in angle always all the time. I don't
Speaker 1: trust anyone ever in this business, and I wouldn't either.
Speaker 1: Nobody everybody wants me for something. So when people just
Speaker 1: genuinely like want you to just hear a song, you
Speaker 1: can't tell if it's genuine or if it's Hey, we
Speaker 1: want to work in angle and see, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, So the only way I can be
Speaker 1: genuine is just say it, not doing it. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. Like. The most genuine thing I can do
Speaker 1: is be consistent with everyone. So I say no. So
Speaker 1: my point is now, I M gonna listen to your songs.
Speaker 1: You know what, It's fine, that's okay. Hey, I believe
Speaker 1: they're good. That you guys are really good. Like you
Speaker 1: guys are really good. Thank you. Often you know there
Speaker 1: are everybody's really good at in this town. You have
Speaker 1: to be exceptional to be especially as a chick. If
Speaker 1: you're not exceptional, as a girl. Yeah, you're not gonna work.
Speaker 1: You have to be exceptional with some sort of special specificiplicity.
Speaker 1: You can't just be great. You have to be great
Speaker 1: and also have some crazy angle about you as a female.
Speaker 1: We're just totally unfair because you got a bunch of
Speaker 1: d bad guys that are that they're the same, they
Speaker 1: are good. But I'm glad. I'm just kidding. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm so over it. So I feel you. I The
Speaker 1: thing is, we have so many friends that we root
Speaker 1: for in love, and then there's there's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone has their own opinion, and like what
Speaker 1: is what do they say? Like opinions are like armpits.
Speaker 1: Everyone has two of them and no one wants Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh there, that's what it is. That's right. Okay, So
Speaker 1: maybe the end of the year of the record comes out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's hoping. Yes, I'm excited did for it to come out,
Speaker 1: because this whole thing is going to make sense when
Speaker 1: everyone hears the music and here's the story, It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's what they were talking about a year ago, six
Speaker 1: months ago at like and then we've got music video
Speaker 1: coming out and then maybe a tour that we can't
Speaker 1: really talk about but I know about it. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to. But oddly we have a lot of
Speaker 1: the same people. Yeah, oh yeah, we have the same management. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have the same family. Because someone from your team
Speaker 1: that is also on our team come to my house
Speaker 1: and I was you're talking about um here a minute ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, why are you here? Oh no, no,
Speaker 1: ks um what are you talking about? Just someone like
Speaker 1: really pulled some weight in for what? For this? Why?
Speaker 1: Why did you whisper off mine? You can say whatever
Speaker 1: you want, I know, but I don't underst what you're
Speaker 1: saying because I don't say who is what happened, who
Speaker 1: pulled what weight? For what? Well, he's just awesome, Like
Speaker 1: he just can say something to me. No, no no know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying like we have really good we share.
Speaker 1: We share great people that work their monkeys. That my manager.
Speaker 1: Who's your day to day that's right, Mary? I love her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's great and so oh yeah, he's why I'm on idol. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he has Luke and he and he has Lionel
Speaker 1: and so all the stuff, all the stuff works. It's
Speaker 1: just my whole career is just finding really good people.
Speaker 1: I'm not good at anything, but I'm great at finding
Speaker 1: people that are great at things. Yes, I would. I
Speaker 1: feel the same way. I know you guys are great,
Speaker 1: great artists, Thank you. But your team, your team has Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't go far without people that know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: And that's why we, like you said, you hire people
Speaker 1: that you trust and that you feel like, I can
Speaker 1: accomplish those goals that you have for yourself. And I
Speaker 1: mean we don't know like half of the industry stuff,
Speaker 1: like all the you really got to land on your
Speaker 1: team for that stuff. Yeah, because they know they've been
Speaker 1: at it longer than us. Obviously, you know when you're
Speaker 1: getting married. So fun fact, I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be saying this, but so we actually
Speaker 1: set a date for next year, next fall. But this
Speaker 1: tour that is happening that will be announced soon, um,
Speaker 1: so that may conflict with the wedding date. So I
Speaker 1: pulled Jonah side and I'm like, look, babe, I love
Speaker 1: you very much, but we may have to move this
Speaker 1: wedding date back. And he was like, yeah, no worries.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is totally the person I'm
Speaker 1: so like. I never had a doubt that this is
Speaker 1: who I'm so smarried. But when he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: no worries, that's fine if we have to move in
Speaker 1: a couple of months, I was like, thank you Jesus,
Speaker 1: I got a good man. He is going to be
Speaker 1: twenty four and October, so yeah, he's he's a gym
Speaker 1: and hell is Josh. I know Josh because his dad.
Speaker 1: I was on his dad's record. Words the sweetest. He's
Speaker 1: a good dude. Both of his parents are just so sweet.
Speaker 1: But then aside from that, UM, I hope I'm okay
Speaker 1: to say that your boyfriend is a great songwriter. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, And so it was weird for me to
Speaker 1: see him as a guitar player and then as the
Speaker 1: son of the record. But he's a great songwriter, thank you.
Speaker 1: He actually, yes, he is a great songwriter. I'm very
Speaker 1: proud of him. He wrote two of the songs on
Speaker 1: our record with us, so that's how the love began,
Speaker 1: and urban stuff like yeah, and it's hard for me
Speaker 1: to see your boyfriend as that because I saw him
Speaker 1: as just a guitar player and as the son of
Speaker 1: his story is crazy because when his dad decided to
Speaker 1: run Black River, Um, he was in college playing trumpet
Speaker 1: and lacrosse and trumpet. Yeah, that's my many trumpet I did.
Speaker 1: I did. I played trumpet. So he was playing lacrosse
Speaker 1: in college and then had been songwriting like all of
Speaker 1: high school. And then yeah, I just decided to teach
Speaker 1: himself how to play guitar and then started playing guitar
Speaker 1: on the road and that turned to songwriting, and then
Speaker 1: songwriting turned to producing. Yeah. It's crazy because when you
Speaker 1: know someone from like a kid up, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you have double a proof because I but he's really
Speaker 1: he's really good and you're like the label head's kid.
Speaker 1: But he's freaking amaze. He's one of my favorite people
Speaker 1: to write with. And he was coming of her for
Speaker 1: this and we had to cancel for some reason. Didn't
Speaker 1: we get sick or something. I got sick the one
Speaker 1: time in like ten years I got sick. Josh was
Speaker 1: coming up. I never get sick either, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: and if I do, I just fight through it because
Speaker 1: eventually I'll not be sick and I'll be happy I
Speaker 1: fought through it. That's how I see it. Yeah, eventually
Speaker 1: I'm going to feel better again, because you when you're sick.
Speaker 1: This is it. But then on the other side of it,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, you do get through it. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: if I just want to hung in there. But I
Speaker 1: got really sick the flu. I had the flu last year,
Speaker 1: and that sucker would not go away. It was like
Speaker 1: three weeks. I was down for the kid. It was bad,
Speaker 1: like I got vertigo from it where I just like
Speaker 1: I couldn't even walk downstairs. I would just be like dizzy.
Speaker 1: It was a mess. Was your boyfriend with you? Yes,
Speaker 1: so that's gross. Oh and he's a germa Bope. Literally, Bobby,
Speaker 1: we go into Target and this like we'll be walking
Speaker 1: down an aisle and someone maybe like let's say even
Speaker 1: twenty feet away, we'll sneeze and we gotta go. We
Speaker 1: gotta leave, turn around, and I'm like, you gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me, dude. So me having the flu was absolutely disgusting. Yes, oh,
Speaker 1: yet all he never caught it either. He's healthy like
Speaker 1: you guys, he never gets sick. I say, I never
Speaker 1: get sick. I just had a cold, So that's true.
Speaker 1: But I didn't get sick, thank God. And you find
Speaker 1: someone that you can, like I have body fluids come
Speaker 1: out around. That's kind. But in the reverse. He just
Speaker 1: had sal vanilla and I had to take care of that,
Speaker 1: so he to uber disgusting. Yeah, I've never been with
Speaker 1: anyone with salmonella. It's basically a stomach bug. So it's
Speaker 1: like both the spectrum and you had to be with
Speaker 1: me through a stomach bug and oh yeah that was
Speaker 1: when threw up on my foot, And yeah, the bug
Speaker 1: is such a gross thing, that the bug. It was awful.
Speaker 1: It was awful, and we were on the bus, which
Speaker 1: throwing up on a bus is the I don't even
Speaker 1: think the toiletic grinder. So guys like you're listening to
Speaker 1: this whole debacle, imagine a tour bus toilet is maybe
Speaker 1: even smaller than an airplane toilet, so right, like maybe
Speaker 1: cut that like in half, and that's a bus toilet
Speaker 1: and t is puking and I'm trying to catch it
Speaker 1: in a bag and then it gets on my foot
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to run out of the bus. But
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, hey, through thick and then can't
Speaker 1: trust somebody until you can trust somebody was the quote,
Speaker 1: don't tell you sometimes the wonderful knowledge. Well, well, well listen,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for an hour so fun. I know,
Speaker 1: I love podcasting. It's so fun, and I liked I
Speaker 1: like your podcast because I feel like you don't do
Speaker 1: like the surface stuff like, but I do my surface.
Speaker 1: I mean I do what I think I don't. This
Speaker 1: is honestly, God, I don't go what can I talk about?
Speaker 1: It's so Secondly, I just I'm lucky enough to still
Speaker 1: be the consumer but also be in the business enough
Speaker 1: to know the questions to ask that maybe people don't
Speaker 1: even know they want to know about, because when I
Speaker 1: explore and go, oh that I didn't know that happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know inter Ears told my freaking bands for
Speaker 1: the playing stage is big enough to need in Ears exactly,
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know. So I have a question
Speaker 1: for you before we go. Have you taken the indiogram test?
Speaker 1: Every person that comes and asking about that? And know
Speaker 1: I haven't. Okay, what about your Myers pricks? What Myers bricks?
Speaker 1: He's like what. I was just curious because Tay and
Speaker 1: I are obsessed with this Instagram thing. It's a personality test.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like whatever that means, there is no
Speaker 1: twelve you like to have fun and kind of guess
Speaker 1: people's inngeograms. I know as I know. All you have
Speaker 1: to do is go online and we'll send you the link,
Speaker 1: yes to take it and seven questions. I'm going to
Speaker 1: put my prediction. Okay, go ahead. I think maybe a
Speaker 1: one or an eight? Why why do you think? But
Speaker 1: what are you assigning this to? What personality? Three? I
Speaker 1: don't know what this means. Yeah, I think you're a pizza.
Speaker 1: So when she said she thinks you're a one, that
Speaker 1: means a it's a reformer where it's like you're always
Speaker 1: wanting to like perfectionists. Yeah, like you're always wanting to
Speaker 1: like change things for the better and like adjust, Like
Speaker 1: you're never like too comfortable and you're always trying to
Speaker 1: like challenge in a good way. And I'm a nine,
Speaker 1: so I'm technically called the peacemaker a k. The harmonizer.
Speaker 1: I'm not the peacemaker, and I'm not either I'm a two,
Speaker 1: which is the helper. So it's like it's my personalities.
Speaker 1: Like you're always trying to like help people or figure
Speaker 1: out like what you can do. Like it's just like whatever.
Speaker 1: But the quiz is so interesting because I feel like
Speaker 1: if you took it, you'd be like, wait, I think
Speaker 1: you're a three, which will okay, take it if somebody
Speaker 1: texts me that the thing and I'll text you back.
Speaker 1: What is your bet? Okay? Up? Three? I think you're three? Performer? Yeah,
Speaker 1: three is split down the middle. Three is like the
Speaker 1: achiever the performer like always wanting others to win and
Speaker 1: wanting to win, like they're all great things. But I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Some people are bad. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's definitely there's flaws that are listed. Whenever you tell no,
Speaker 1: you we all no, no, no, um no. But I
Speaker 1: like my flaws are like, oh man, this is so true.
Speaker 1: I can't even deny it. Okay, well, okay, this is
Speaker 1: what we'll do is we'll group text this link. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say A one, and then you let us know
Speaker 1: and reveal, and then to your listeners you can let
Speaker 1: them know. Maybe everyone can put their bets in and see.
Speaker 1: I don't y'all are sleeping and you need to get
Speaker 1: on this indiogram thing. There is called the Road to Better.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Matt Corney was talking to me about
Speaker 1: that too. Do you know Matt Carney? Yes? I love him.
Speaker 1: Do you know him? No? But I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: and so I geeked out one. I'm a big matto.
Speaker 1: I get to geek out still geek out at things
Speaker 1: that I like, like artsy loves yes, like people that
Speaker 1: you've been listening to for years and years and years.
Speaker 1: We saw him at Live on the Green, like when
Speaker 1: I first moved to Nashville. Do you remember there ago? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like five years ago, and he was amazing.
Speaker 1: I remember the mix was perfect, the lightning was great,
Speaker 1: it was just magical. Yeah, he was a good dude.
Speaker 1: We hung There are a few of these where Another
Speaker 1: one was Brandon who my friends without Brandon Lancaster from
Speaker 1: Lanko where you spend time with them and you go, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just a different kind of person like I. He's
Speaker 1: so artsy. When someone goes, yeah my bigges hits brations
Speaker 1: Ryan Adams, you're like, oh, you're a way yeah, and
Speaker 1: someone needs to watch you make sure you're okay, but
Speaker 1: saying oh yeah, that is awesome. All right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: wrap this up, but um, I think we learned a
Speaker 1: lot here today. I learned a lot today. Yeah, going
Speaker 1: down to do it. We're gonna do the big announcement.
Speaker 1: What is Bobby's in your Graham, Papa Papa, bump bump,
Speaker 1: bump bump. Alright, Episode one might do anything you want
Speaker 1: to say. I'm good, You're good over there, all right,
Speaker 1: Maddie Tay, thank you for coming, thank you for having us.
Speaker 1: We've done over an hour long? How long this mon
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Thank you for letting us in your beautiful home.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We'll not talk about that, so
Speaker 1: we will move away. I don't care. I have a
Speaker 1: whole issue with having a swim pool like I feel
Speaker 1: terribly guilty about it, terribly guilty. We should I want
Speaker 1: to talk to you about that off the record, off
Speaker 1: the record, I feel same. You're like one of my
Speaker 1: friends where you grew up with super poor and I
Speaker 1: feel terribly guilty about and you should not at all.
Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't. That's what's my six nine. Its
Speaker 1: tangible proof that you are successful and good at what
Speaker 1: you do. You deserve what you have earned. My point
Speaker 1: is I feel uncomfortable when someone says, hey, I like
Speaker 1: your shoes, because I'm like, oh no, no, don't be sorry.
Speaker 1: We gotta untangle that web. We gotta get in that
Speaker 1: soul and untangle it. I'm going to on site on
Speaker 1: for like four days. How that is. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to untangle some stuff. I'm going start speaking to Davey
Speaker 1: let me know. Will you please let us know? Because
Speaker 1: I feel like I could. I'll reply back to the
Speaker 1: text to read and be like, all right, are we
Speaker 1: just gonna group text soul searching things all the time? Therapy,
Speaker 1: Episode one Mattie and Tay, thank you guys for coming
Speaker 1: in and everybody next time, by bye, Ready