WEBVTT - #135 - Maddie + Tae 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:07.000 I welcome to episode one, Maddie and tell you're here. 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:11.600 Hello girls, Hello, thank you nice. Now what's the right 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:14.960 way to what do you say? I personally don't care, 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:18.439 but yeah, I like ladies because people still think that 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:23.520 we're kids. Like okay, for example, I don't know how 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.200 like girls because I am I'm twenty two, Like yeah, 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:29.240 but I am a woman. I don't know. It's just well, 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.640 for example, our bus driver we had like a pill 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.000 and bus driver to do like a co drive last 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.760 night to get us back, and he called us kids 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.600 and I was like, oh, I'm a twenty year old woman. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.960 I'm not a I do care. I don't want to 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.760 call it a kid, call a kid. He was like, oh, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.120 how old are you? I'm like, not kid age, but 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.199 thanks for making me feel ladies girls, women. But I 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.400 would imagine he says fifties. If I'm just guessing bus driver, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:01.160 he probably has a kid. May be so, so I 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.880 would think if you have kids and they're the same 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.960 age as someone, you probably see them as the kid. Listen, 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.319 I don't know your bus drivers, but I'll tell you 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.080 what's expensive is haven't have to bus drivers. Yeah, So 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.200 what happens is I'll explain it to people because I 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:16.479 have to. We have take buses out all the time. 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:22.039 So if you drive over whatever the law is, let's 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.560 say it's nine that seems reasonable. Yeah, if you have 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.880 to drive over nine hours, you have to have to 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.360 bus drivers or the bus drivers to pull over and 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.000 sleep for a certain amount of time. Right, So which 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.800 which is a nightmare. Both scenarios a nightmare. Right, It's 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:40.280 just expensive either way to bus drivers. And when you're rolling, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.160 I mean we're rolling twelve deep on a twelve bunk 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.200 bus with the code driver, so it's yeah, like it's 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.240 not cramped. It's always weird with the second bus driver too, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.760 because you don't know them everybody. And that was the 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.760 guy I was talking about. Yeah, yes, so he was 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:57.920 the like touch sport, Like, no, this is weird. Like 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.560 we own a company and we're like running this whole thing, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.560 and kid just feels really weird to me. People will 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.640 still call me kid though, too, if they're older, if 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.960 they're like six, they'd be like, hey, you're just a kid. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.760 But it just has to because they have kids the same. Yeah, probably, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.239 I don't see. I would never say kids to YouTube, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.079 right because I would say you're more like little sister age. Well, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:21.240 he thought we were kids, like he because whenever I 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.880 was like, oh, hi, how are you, He's like, how 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.679 are you kids doing or something? And I was like, oh, 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.880 we're good, but I mean we're not kids, and he's like, really, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:31.880 how old are you? And I told him. I swear 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.359 he probably thought we were like seventeen or something. I'm 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:39.880 like things because I'm getting wrinkly already. And let me 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.680 start with this. Let me do this commercial here real quick. 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.880 I gotta pay the bills. Let's see. To talk about LifeLock, 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:47.120 sensitive personal data has been exposed in more data breaches 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.360 for nearly two months. An unauthorized party reportedly you stolen 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.840 user names of passwords to log into online accounts of 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:56.040 certain major department stores websites. 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For example, 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.160 I'm in that studio every morning and people will come 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.480 and watch us, and I'll be like, oh, this is 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.840 so cool, But to me, that's every day. Yeah. The 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:04.880 same thing with you guys. You know you're talking about 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.200 your bus driver there are parts of the touring life 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.520 that I don't think people have any idea like what 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.560 the only because I only know because I had to 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.320 start touring with the band and we started playing and 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.839 I was like, oh wow, this is a real thing. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.480 Like sound checks for example, right, which is when you 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:20.320 go up and make sure that all the stuff works, 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.920 all the guitars, the drums, Like that's a pretty grueling thing, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.600 like a sound check. Every day show, do you guys 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.839 go do you go to your sound check? If we can't, 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.160 you're allowed to sometimes. Well, recently it's been a lot 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.760 of like open sound checks, meaning the venue is open 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.320 to the public and so we aren't able to go 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:39.840 out yet, but we prefer to sound check because we 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.720 lack when our stuff sounds good. What do you mean 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.280 so they open it up. Yeah, so it's open to 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:49.040 the public. So festival, you can't really like close it off. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.840 The crowd just kind of post it up since ten 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.320 am or something. Yeah, so you really don't want to 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.520 go out because it kind of you don't want to 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.239 play your songs at three p m. And we look crusty, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.320 You're not all cute and done like that's just like 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.520 it's just like the like Wizard of Oz thing where 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.560 you think something so cool and then you feel back there, 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.200 you know, So if we want to keep it a mystery, 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.200 I think inter ears are a thing that people that 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.960 until you do it. You know. When I was mentoring 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.760 an American Idolas Hapen to talk to the kids about 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.880 things like inter ears, that's so much fun. You look 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:23.200 like you're having a blast on there. They edited me good. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.560 But I mean I feel like that was such a 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:29.080 good like you know how it is, and they did 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:31.640 a great job of editing. Yeah, they really did. I 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.280 just did what I do. I don't think that's what 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:36.320 that's what you should do. But I was talking to 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.400 them about things like inter ears. That's like the mentoring 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.680 thing that would be like, hey, so here's what's gonna happen. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.800 You put these First of all, they put this gel 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.440 in your ear. It's the worst. Talk about that for 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.360 a second. It is so uncomfortable. I remember being so 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.680 self conscious about how much ear wax that was going 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.960 to have. But is that and that does no one 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.120 else think about that? But I was there was just like, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.160 oh my gosh, we're gonna say I have so much 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.320 ear wax? And then viously they're like it's moderate, but 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.920 still I was so self conscious. I was just nerves. Okay, 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.400 so this is so like first world problems, Like this 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.760 is not anything bad at all, but it's just like 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.560 nerve racking. These like an eer things. Were basically trying 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.279 to explain it to everyone that doesn't tour, but which 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.680 most people. Most people, Yeah, we're very very lucky individuals 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.440 that we all get to do it. But um, so, basically, 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.240 it's these little like headphone thingies that go in your ear, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.800 but they're molded to your ear so they fit perfectly 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:30.720 and you can hear everything and you know, so you 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.520 can sound great here everyone on stage. So you go 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.520 to the doctor this I mean it feels like a 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.800 doctor like this ear person. Yeah, and you have to 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.479 move your jaw around and whatnot. Yes, And I think 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.800 that's why I had so like anxiety. And it's like 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:48.680 if you're getting your ears peers for the first time 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.320 or a tattoo for the first time. You don't know 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.760 what to expect, so you're like, is this going to hurt? 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:56.640 It's basically they shoot this like jelly stuff into your ear, 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.520 so it's like you feel like you're underwater and you 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.000 just have to sit there for like ten minutes while 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:06.520 it hardens, and it's the weirdest. It's very hard to explain, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.400 but it's very uncomfortable. I was just like, oh, this 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.000 is not something I don't want to do again. Even 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.280 putting the ears in. When you put them in the first, well, 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.640 they sell your ear first of all, where you're supposed 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.720 to really not hear much happening around you. But the 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.960 first time you go on stage and your ears are sealed, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.120 it's weird because you're used to hearing the crowd, right 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:26.680 and just hearing it back to a speaker, so you 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:28.120 can hear the crowd, but when you put the ears in, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.440 you really can't hear the crowd. I remember the very 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.480 first time I ever used my inn ears, and it's 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:36.120 probably the same show as you. We played, yeah, but yeah, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.600 but it was some like CMT football kickoff thing. I 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:43.040 don't really know, but it was some live television, yeah, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:45.520 and it was our first time ever using our inn ear. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.200 So imagine that it's a big performance and then you 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.440 have something new informs exactly and it's just it changes 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.960 your world because, like you said, it's sealed, it's you 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.280 don't hear anything. You can't hear anything. It's all just 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.880 basically in your head and it takes a minute to 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:01.280 get used to so I remember, like what is going on? 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.520 Or it's like you think the crowd is not into 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.240 it at all because you can't hear, and then you 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.720 take one out and you're like, wait, everyone's really excited, 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.280 Like it's just yeah. So we have these little things 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.320 called I'm sure y'all have, like the crowd mics, where 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.320 you haven't pointed to the crowd so you can hear them, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.840 and sometimes I be able to say the craziest stuff. 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:18.800 I'm like, dude, we have a microphone on you. You 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.200 can't be saying crazy stuff like that. I can hear you. 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:23.280 They were just halfway through a set when they yelled 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.480 girl on a count your song. We're like, we have 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.760 more songs in that. Obviously you're going to play it. 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.920 It's like, yeah, yeah, hold on, we're going to play it. Yeah. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.360 The thing about the crowd mix is weird is it's 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.559 always a split second delayed. Yes, oh yeah, so like 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.679 clapping and so you really you can't get really started 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.680 play under rhythm with their class because those microphones that 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.360 are able to hear the crowd are a quarter of 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.040 a second behind, so it does. But that's one of 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.880 those things. And I tell my audience all the time, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:54.439 if you see someone with the thing hanging out of 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.040 their ear, it's because they want to hear the crowd, 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.760 so they have one ear out or yeah, which tay 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:03.360 Is had issues with hers like three weeks where it 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.319 connects the chord in my ear. Something's messed up. I 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.440 don't know. She's so chill. She's like, we're like about 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:11.320 to get on stage, into tracks going, and she's like, yeah, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.480 I don't have any ears, and I would have been like, oh, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:16.280 I have my ears, like freaking out. And she's just like, hey, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.199 I'm just gonna do a show without an ear, and 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.760 you know, and we're a harmony band, so she needs 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.720 to hear what's going on and both of us need 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.480 to hear each other for this to work. And she's like, oh, yeah, 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.120 I'll just do it with that one ear, and I'm like, oh, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.440 heck no, I would be freaking out. I was still 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.640 before and then after getting off stage, and because when 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:33.880 you when you only put one ear in and listen 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.360 to an entire sixty seventy five minutes set with one 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:39.920 ear turned up, you come off stage and you can't 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:41.600 hear anything out of that ere. So I was like, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.480 and if you're doing that again, if you're blaring music 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.440 like on your phone, like you have your headphones in 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.200 and you only have one headphone on like your other 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:51.760 ear is like, Oh, what is going on? It's just funky? 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.400 What is something that you guys wish you were asked 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.199 about more? Because I do a lot of interviews where 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.679 I get to interview people, but I'm on the other 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:00.800 side too, We're right, so I actually get to see 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.719 both sides of it sometimes. Question I said, and I 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.839 had to do this book tour, and you know, you 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.439 would do thirty in a row and everyone would come 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.600 with the same easy question that was fed to them, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:12.920 you know, like what inspired you? Yeah, But and I 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.160 understood it because I've been on that side. So I'm 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.440 on both sides. But I wonder as artists, like what 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:19.960 do you wish that people would ask you about more? 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.360 M hmmm, um, good question, And no one ever asks 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:28.079 us that I do wish, Um, you mean fans or 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.480 interviewers an interview, you wish that you could talk about 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.559 what more? Well, I know something that I frequently asked 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.400 people who I'm you know, inspired by, is what inspired 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.319 this specific song? Do you remember the moment? Do you 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:43.800 remember the emotion? We don't get that specific question often 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.800 by fans necessarily, Yeah, so I but I always ask that. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.720 So I guess that's what I would like to be asked. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.280 You would like to be asked about what specifically inspired 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:59.840 a piece of something. Yeah, we voluntarily say it anyways 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.959 when ever we're talking about the music, but we'd hardly 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:06.640 ever get I like the like artsy fartsier stuff, you 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.800 know what I mean. Like. But also something that I 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.760 do love about you two is you don't really throw 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.360 softballs in interviews, like you will go right to the 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.440 core or like the deeper stuff because I think jam 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.959 heart to heart, oh man, that is like that is 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.680 my favorite thing about interviews, Like when you can get 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.120 like really deep and vulnerable and like talk about the 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:28.480 great stuff, the bad stuff, that everything in between. That's 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.320 my favorite. I wondered because you guys kind of went 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.640 away for a bit, and I've talked to you guys 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.840 about this for a second. But whenever you when dot 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.520 your old record company goes away, Yeah, and so then 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.600 you don't have a record deal for a bit, and 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.840 then you go away to also, right, right, that's the thing, right, 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:46.880 you guys want to And I didn't see you guys 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:50.040 until Dirk's party at his his bar, I I did 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.280 a song, So that's the first time I've seen you 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.120 guys in a long time, was there? But when you 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.680 go away after that, like, do you purposely try to 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.880 stay out of public things? Is part of the mystique 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:05.640 to hide as well? No, we we tried to wiggle 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.440 our way into anything we could, which is why we 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.800 started making YouTube videos and stuff like that, and um 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.720 kind of started diving even more into clothing lines and 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.880 you know, just trying to stay engaged. But our fans, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.920 we didn't really try to go away. It was just 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.080 like we weren't the cool kids anymore. So it was 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.079 like no one to just be totally honest, it felt 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.160 like no one cared what we were saying because there's 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.720 a ton of other people that their voice is louder 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.960 than ours right now, which is totally fine because there's 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.800 times for everything, but um, you know, you don't want 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.680 to force something if like if you're just not the 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.560 cool kid on the street right now, then you will 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.719 be you'll get there, but it's just not not your 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.640 street or not your time to be the cool kids. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:51.080 And contractually there was ninety days. I don't remember when 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.440 the ninety days started, but it was ninety days between 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.720 each record deal where we knew we were in talks 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.240 with MG and we were having meetings and we knew 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.160 that something was to start rolling, but we weren't allowed 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:03.880 to say anything. So we went to a c M 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.560 S to a c M. S Ago, having all of 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.440 this knowledge of exciting stuff about tappen, but you couldn't 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.440 say anything. So it was torture. And that's how we 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:16.800 got the same publicist because Green Room Um actually covered 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.120 our butts. So I mean, we're so grateful for them 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:24.880 because we had no label, no publicists, no nothing, red carpet. Yeah, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.000 and they're like, so what are y'all doing? We're like, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.640 one thing we're not allowed to talk about and the 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.240 other thing is like out of our control. So you 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.080 were telling the interviewers that because no one So okay, 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:39.040 let's let's explain what a publicists this is fun, because yeah, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:40.320 I mean, this is what we do here is we 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.160 kind of talk about things and we take for granted 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.160 because we're so in it, but even my friends on 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.040 our publicists, cause unless you have to have one, you 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:52.120 just don't know what a publicist done, right, right, So, Taylor, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.439 what's a publicist? A publicist is somebody who takes care 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.280 of the media aspect and kind of sets up interviews 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.440 and set up like press and promotion. So, for example, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.199 whenever we release our record hopefully coming soon, our publicist 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.600 will set up interviews to kind of talk about the 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:15.480 record and set up um late night appearing, late night appearances, 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.840 just things that we can be doing to promote the record. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:22.000 And yeah, the media stuff or see online if you 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.880 say something bad or something doesn't go right. I've had 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:29.600 to cover me a few times, so oh yeah, yeah, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.120 and a couple of times we have been to save 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.840 me from things that never came out. I have done 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.280 that many of times. But you did what no one's 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:40.240 having to save you. Yeah. I haven't offended anyone, but 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.920 I've said I've put my foot in my mouth like 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.280 so many times. But it just kind of like slid under, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.280 which was good. Mine was, Like I would say, it 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.400 actually happened about ten years ago, but the story came 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:56.560 out last year, so but maybe not. Maybe seven years ago, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.360 whenever Twitter were starting to be a thing, I go, oh, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.160 you can buy Twitter of followers, and so I bought 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.760 five thousand Twitter followers, and so I forgot about it, 0:15:05.080 --> 0:15:06.400 go buy and all of a sudden, the New York 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.600 Time just calling my phone and I'm going, what what 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.280 are they calling? They did this humongous expose on people 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.720 who bought Twitter followers. I don't remember doing it first 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.200 of all, and it was like kind of a joke, 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.160 like it wasn't like, oh no, no, not only the joke. 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.680 You know, I bought all my friends Twitter Twitter follower 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:23.880 bombed them, meaning I would buy them and they'd wake 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.520 up and go, why do I have five thousand more? 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.000 I thought it was the funniest thing ever. Yeah, and 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.760 then everyone took it way too serious. People started to 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.560 get suspended from their jobs, like they oh, yeah, they 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.560 found all these high profile people that have bought a 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.280 hundred thousand Twitter followers, half of them, and I'm going, 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.000 I'm on the same story with people who bought Oh no, 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:47.000 and even then, who cares? Yeah seriously though? So yeah, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:51.600 so but they the same group. We're like, okay, we're 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.320 gonna hand so they handled that, and they were they 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:55.800 were just kind of walking me through it, like because 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:56.960 I just want to talk about it. I wanted to 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:58.440 go on the radio and be like, oh, yeah, I 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.080 did this seven years ago. We went back and on 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:03.000 the receipt about five thousand Twitter followered about like seven 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.160 of my friends Twitter followers. But they were like, don't 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.440 do it, and they kind of guided me through it. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.240 And then the story for the most part, kept me 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.800 out of it because I wouldn't talk to them about it, right, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.360 But that's not how I was going to handle it. 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:15.240 But I had to listen to the experts, totally lean 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.480 on people that know the best. Yeah, I know, we 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.960 I mean, this isn't like anything bad, but um actually 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.480 it's really great. But um. I was talking to Kirsten, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.560 our publicist, UM, just for people that don't know that 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.280 we have the same one because we're saying names and 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.520 people like who with that. But anyway, so I was 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.760 telling her before I got engaged in May, I was like, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.440 hey me, and you know my boyfriend. You know at 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.600 the time, what's the same boyfriend? But you know what 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:47.080 I mean? So wait, hang on, so we how do 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.160 I explain this? So I was asking her because I 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.200 kind of had a feeling that he may propose this year, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.640 not as soon as he did, but like this year, 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.000 because we were talking about it and I was like, 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.120 you know, what should we do if that happened? And 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.800 she was like, okay, well this was what we'll do, 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.840 and she's like, when we get there, we'll get there. 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:04.760 Well after that conversation, he proposed like a week later, 0:17:04.760 --> 0:17:07.040 and I was like, okay, well, we're engaged, so that 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.720 plan has to like, we gotta go now. So she 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.640 was like, oh, okay, I didn't knows this soon, but 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.639 we'll go like it they'll good. So they kind of 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.800 guide those press releases and stuff. What's the thought then, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:19.440 and I think both of you guys are probably in 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.600 different stages talk about this. Uh, Mannie will talk to you. 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:26.199 So you get engaged, and so how how quickly do 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.840 you post a picture? Because you're a public person too, 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.359 so there's kind of some strategy to the So what 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.520 Jonah and I did was we okay, So we were 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.320 going on vacation for our seven year anniversary in May 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.440 at the end of May. So he proposed the night 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.080 before we were leaving, and we both agreed. We were like, 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.960 you know what, we want to go on our vacation 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.240 and like not be blown up, Like I mean, it's 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.600 so exciting. But we just called our close friends like 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.960 obviously FaceTime table right after it happened, but um, like 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.520 our families and told that they already knew that it 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.159 was going to happen, so it was really just me 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.600 telling them. But um, so we kept it secret for 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.800 like a whole week, maybe a week and a half actually, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.800 because we wanted to go on vacation and not be 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.400 on our phones and be present. And then um, after vacation, 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.919 we flew to Houston, where I'm from, and my sister 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.479 was graduating high school, so it was like we had 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.080 a graduation thing and then we had an engagement party 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:22.720 with our family and then you got to do a 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.040 photo shoot. Yes, so we like pictures of the ring. Yeah, 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.359 so his cousin is a photographer, and basically we're like, hey, 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.720 if you'll get some pictures for us, we'll just you know, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.959 do that and then just do a big announcement. But 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.040 it was kind of fun keeping it secret for a 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.480