1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: I welcome to episode one, Maddie and tell you're here. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Hello girls, Hello, thank you nice. Now what's the right 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: way to what do you say? I personally don't care, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: but yeah, I like ladies because people still think that 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: we're kids. Like okay, for example, I don't know how 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: like girls because I am I'm twenty two, Like yeah, 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: but I am a woman. I don't know. It's just well, 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: for example, our bus driver we had like a pill 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and bus driver to do like a co drive last 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: night to get us back, and he called us kids 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm a twenty year old woman. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a I do care. I don't want to 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: call it a kid, call a kid. He was like, oh, 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm like, not kid age, but 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: thanks for making me feel ladies girls, women. But I 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: would imagine he says fifties. If I'm just guessing bus driver, 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: he probably has a kid. May be so, so I 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: would think if you have kids and they're the same 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: age as someone, you probably see them as the kid. Listen, 20 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: I don't know your bus drivers, but I'll tell you 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: what's expensive is haven't have to bus drivers. Yeah, So 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: what happens is I'll explain it to people because I 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 1: have to. We have take buses out all the time. 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: So if you drive over whatever the law is, let's 25 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: say it's nine that seems reasonable. Yeah, if you have 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: to drive over nine hours, you have to have to 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: bus drivers or the bus drivers to pull over and 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: sleep for a certain amount of time. Right, So which 29 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: which is a nightmare. Both scenarios a nightmare. Right, It's 30 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: just expensive either way to bus drivers. And when you're rolling, 31 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: I mean we're rolling twelve deep on a twelve bunk 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: bus with the code driver, so it's yeah, like it's 33 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: not cramped. It's always weird with the second bus driver too, 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: because you don't know them everybody. And that was the 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: guy I was talking about. Yeah, yes, so he was 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the like touch sport, Like, no, this is weird. Like 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: we own a company and we're like running this whole thing, 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: and kid just feels really weird to me. People will 39 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: still call me kid though, too, if they're older, if 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: they're like six, they'd be like, hey, you're just a kid. 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: But it just has to because they have kids the same. Yeah, probably, 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: I don't see. I would never say kids to YouTube, 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: right because I would say you're more like little sister age. Well, 44 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: he thought we were kids, like he because whenever I 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, hi, how are you, He's like, how 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: are you kids doing or something? And I was like, oh, 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: we're good, but I mean we're not kids, and he's like, really, 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: how old are you? And I told him. I swear 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: he probably thought we were like seventeen or something. I'm 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: like things because I'm getting wrinkly already. And let me 51 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: start with this. Let me do this commercial here real quick. 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: I gotta pay the bills. Let's see. 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It's funny how there 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: are things that I guess we take for granted. For example, 80 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm in that studio every morning and people will come 81 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: and watch us, and I'll be like, oh, this is 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: so cool, But to me, that's every day. Yeah. The 83 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: same thing with you guys. You know you're talking about 84 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: your bus driver there are parts of the touring life 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: that I don't think people have any idea like what 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: the only because I only know because I had to 87 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: start touring with the band and we started playing and 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, this is a real thing. 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: Like sound checks for example, right, which is when you 90 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: go up and make sure that all the stuff works, 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: all the guitars, the drums, Like that's a pretty grueling thing, 92 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: like a sound check. Every day show, do you guys 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: go do you go to your sound check? If we can't, 94 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: you're allowed to sometimes. Well, recently it's been a lot 95 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: of like open sound checks, meaning the venue is open 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: to the public and so we aren't able to go 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: out yet, but we prefer to sound check because we 98 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: lack when our stuff sounds good. What do you mean 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: so they open it up. Yeah, so it's open to 100 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: the public. So festival, you can't really like close it off. 101 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: The crowd just kind of post it up since ten 102 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: am or something. Yeah, so you really don't want to 103 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: go out because it kind of you don't want to 104 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 1: play your songs at three p m. And we look crusty, 105 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: You're not all cute and done like that's just like 106 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: it's just like the like Wizard of Oz thing where 107 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: you think something so cool and then you feel back there, 108 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, So if we want to keep it a mystery, 109 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I think inter ears are a thing that people that 110 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: until you do it. You know. When I was mentoring 111 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: an American Idolas Hapen to talk to the kids about 112 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: things like inter ears, that's so much fun. You look 113 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: like you're having a blast on there. They edited me good. 114 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: But I mean I feel like that was such a 115 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: good like you know how it is, and they did 116 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: a great job of editing. Yeah, they really did. I 117 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: just did what I do. I don't think that's what 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: that's what you should do. But I was talking to 119 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: them about things like inter ears. That's like the mentoring 120 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: thing that would be like, hey, so here's what's gonna happen. 121 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: You put these First of all, they put this gel 122 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: in your ear. It's the worst. Talk about that for 123 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: a second. It is so uncomfortable. I remember being so 124 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: self conscious about how much ear wax that was going 125 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to have. But is that and that does no one 126 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: else think about that? But I was there was just like, 127 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we're gonna say I have so much 128 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: ear wax? And then viously they're like it's moderate, but 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: still I was so self conscious. I was just nerves. Okay, 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: so this is so like first world problems, Like this 131 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: is not anything bad at all, but it's just like 132 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: nerve racking. These like an eer things. Were basically trying 133 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: to explain it to everyone that doesn't tour, but which 134 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: most people. Most people, Yeah, we're very very lucky individuals 135 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: that we all get to do it. But um, so, basically, 136 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: it's these little like headphone thingies that go in your ear, 137 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: but they're molded to your ear so they fit perfectly 138 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and you can hear everything and you know, so you 139 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: can sound great here everyone on stage. So you go 140 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: to the doctor this I mean it feels like a 141 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: doctor like this ear person. Yeah, and you have to 142 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: move your jaw around and whatnot. Yes, And I think 143 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: that's why I had so like anxiety. And it's like 144 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: if you're getting your ears peers for the first time 145 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: or a tattoo for the first time. You don't know 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: what to expect, so you're like, is this going to hurt? 147 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: It's basically they shoot this like jelly stuff into your ear, 148 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: so it's like you feel like you're underwater and you 149 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: just have to sit there for like ten minutes while 150 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: it hardens, and it's the weirdest. It's very hard to explain, 151 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: but it's very uncomfortable. I was just like, oh, this 152 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: is not something I don't want to do again. Even 153 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: putting the ears in. When you put them in the first, well, 154 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: they sell your ear first of all, where you're supposed 155 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: to really not hear much happening around you. But the 156 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: first time you go on stage and your ears are sealed, 157 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: it's weird because you're used to hearing the crowd, right 158 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: and just hearing it back to a speaker, so you 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: can hear the crowd, but when you put the ears in, 160 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: you really can't hear the crowd. I remember the very 161 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: first time I ever used my inn ears, and it's 162 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: probably the same show as you. We played, yeah, but yeah, 163 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: but it was some like CMT football kickoff thing. I 164 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: don't really know, but it was some live television, yeah, 165 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: and it was our first time ever using our inn ear. 166 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: So imagine that it's a big performance and then you 167 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: have something new informs exactly and it's just it changes 168 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: your world because, like you said, it's sealed, it's you 169 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: don't hear anything. You can't hear anything. It's all just 170 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: basically in your head and it takes a minute to 171 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: get used to so I remember, like what is going on? 172 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: Or it's like you think the crowd is not into 173 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: it at all because you can't hear, and then you 174 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: take one out and you're like, wait, everyone's really excited, 175 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Like it's just yeah. So we have these little things 176 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: called I'm sure y'all have, like the crowd mics, where 177 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: you haven't pointed to the crowd so you can hear them, 178 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and sometimes I be able to say the craziest stuff. 179 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, we have a microphone on you. You 180 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: can't be saying crazy stuff like that. I can hear you. 181 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: They were just halfway through a set when they yelled 182 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: girl on a count your song. We're like, we have 183 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: more songs in that. Obviously you're going to play it. 184 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, yeah, hold on, we're going to play it. Yeah. 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: The thing about the crowd mix is weird is it's 186 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: always a split second delayed. Yes, oh yeah, so like 187 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: clapping and so you really you can't get really started 188 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: play under rhythm with their class because those microphones that 189 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: are able to hear the crowd are a quarter of 190 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: a second behind, so it does. But that's one of 191 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: those things. And I tell my audience all the time, 192 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: if you see someone with the thing hanging out of 193 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: their ear, it's because they want to hear the crowd, 194 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: so they have one ear out or yeah, which tay 195 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Is had issues with hers like three weeks where it 196 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: connects the chord in my ear. Something's messed up. I 197 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: don't know. She's so chill. She's like, we're like about 198 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: to get on stage, into tracks going, and she's like, yeah, 199 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't have any ears, and I would have been like, oh, 200 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: I have my ears, like freaking out. And she's just like, hey, 201 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do a show without an ear, and 202 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you know, and we're a harmony band, so she needs 203 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: to hear what's going on and both of us need 204 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: to hear each other for this to work. And she's like, oh, yeah, 205 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: I'll just do it with that one ear, and I'm like, oh, 206 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: heck no, I would be freaking out. I was still 207 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: before and then after getting off stage, and because when 208 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: you when you only put one ear in and listen 209 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: to an entire sixty seventy five minutes set with one 210 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: ear turned up, you come off stage and you can't 211 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: hear anything out of that ere. So I was like, 212 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: and if you're doing that again, if you're blaring music 213 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: like on your phone, like you have your headphones in 214 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: and you only have one headphone on like your other 215 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: ear is like, Oh, what is going on? It's just funky? 216 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: What is something that you guys wish you were asked 217 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: about more? Because I do a lot of interviews where 218 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: I get to interview people, but I'm on the other 219 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: side too, We're right, so I actually get to see 220 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: both sides of it sometimes. Question I said, and I 221 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: had to do this book tour, and you know, you 222 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: would do thirty in a row and everyone would come 223 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: with the same easy question that was fed to them, 224 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, like what inspired you? Yeah, But and I 225 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: understood it because I've been on that side. So I'm 226 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: on both sides. But I wonder as artists, like what 227 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: do you wish that people would ask you about more? 228 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: M hmmm, um, good question, And no one ever asks 229 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: us that I do wish, Um, you mean fans or 230 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: interviewers an interview, you wish that you could talk about 231 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: what more? Well, I know something that I frequently asked 232 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: people who I'm you know, inspired by, is what inspired 233 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: this specific song? Do you remember the moment? Do you 234 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: remember the emotion? We don't get that specific question often 235 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: by fans necessarily, Yeah, so I but I always ask that. 236 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: So I guess that's what I would like to be asked. 237 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: You would like to be asked about what specifically inspired 238 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: a piece of something. Yeah, we voluntarily say it anyways 239 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: when ever we're talking about the music, but we'd hardly 240 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: ever get I like the like artsy fartsier stuff, you 241 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like. But also something that I 242 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: do love about you two is you don't really throw 243 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: softballs in interviews, like you will go right to the 244 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: core or like the deeper stuff because I think jam 245 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: heart to heart, oh man, that is like that is 246 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: my favorite thing about interviews, Like when you can get 247 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: like really deep and vulnerable and like talk about the 248 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: great stuff, the bad stuff, that everything in between. That's 249 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: my favorite. I wondered because you guys kind of went 250 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: away for a bit, and I've talked to you guys 251 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: about this for a second. But whenever you when dot 252 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: your old record company goes away, Yeah, and so then 253 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: you don't have a record deal for a bit, and 254 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: then you go away to also, right, right, that's the thing, right, 255 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: you guys want to And I didn't see you guys 256 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: until Dirk's party at his his bar, I I did 257 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: a song, So that's the first time I've seen you 258 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: guys in a long time, was there? But when you 259 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: go away after that, like, do you purposely try to 260 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: stay out of public things? Is part of the mystique 261 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: to hide as well? No, we we tried to wiggle 262 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: our way into anything we could, which is why we 263 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: started making YouTube videos and stuff like that, and um 264 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: kind of started diving even more into clothing lines and 265 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, just trying to stay engaged. But our fans, 266 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: we didn't really try to go away. It was just 267 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: like we weren't the cool kids anymore. So it was 268 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: like no one to just be totally honest, it felt 269 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: like no one cared what we were saying because there's 270 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: a ton of other people that their voice is louder 271 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: than ours right now, which is totally fine because there's 272 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: times for everything, but um, you know, you don't want 273 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: to force something if like if you're just not the 274 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: cool kid on the street right now, then you will 275 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,719 Speaker 1: be you'll get there, but it's just not not your 276 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: street or not your time to be the cool kids. 277 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: And contractually there was ninety days. I don't remember when 278 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: the ninety days started, but it was ninety days between 279 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: each record deal where we knew we were in talks 280 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: with MG and we were having meetings and we knew 281 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: that something was to start rolling, but we weren't allowed 282 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: to say anything. So we went to a c M 283 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: S to a c M. S Ago, having all of 284 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: this knowledge of exciting stuff about tappen, but you couldn't 285 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: say anything. So it was torture. And that's how we 286 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: got the same publicist because Green Room Um actually covered 287 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: our butts. So I mean, we're so grateful for them 288 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: because we had no label, no publicists, no nothing, red carpet. Yeah, 289 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, so what are y'all doing? We're like, 290 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: one thing we're not allowed to talk about and the 291 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: other thing is like out of our control. So you 292 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: were telling the interviewers that because no one So okay, 293 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: let's let's explain what a publicists this is fun, because yeah, 294 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is what we do here is we 295 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of talk about things and we take for granted 296 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: because we're so in it, but even my friends on 297 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: our publicists, cause unless you have to have one, you 298 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: just don't know what a publicist done, right, right, So, Taylor, 299 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: what's a publicist? A publicist is somebody who takes care 300 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: of the media aspect and kind of sets up interviews 301 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: and set up like press and promotion. So, for example, 302 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: whenever we release our record hopefully coming soon, our publicist 303 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: will set up interviews to kind of talk about the 304 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: record and set up um late night appearing, late night appearances, 305 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: just things that we can be doing to promote the record. 306 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, the media stuff or see online if you 307 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: say something bad or something doesn't go right. I've had 308 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: to cover me a few times, so oh yeah, yeah, 309 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: and a couple of times we have been to save 310 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: me from things that never came out. I have done 311 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: that many of times. But you did what no one's 312 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: having to save you. Yeah. I haven't offended anyone, but 313 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: I've said I've put my foot in my mouth like 314 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: so many times. But it just kind of like slid under, 315 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: which was good. Mine was, Like I would say, it 316 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: actually happened about ten years ago, but the story came 317 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: out last year, so but maybe not. Maybe seven years ago, 318 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: whenever Twitter were starting to be a thing, I go, oh, 319 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: you can buy Twitter of followers, and so I bought 320 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: five thousand Twitter followers, and so I forgot about it, 321 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: go buy and all of a sudden, the New York 322 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: Time just calling my phone and I'm going, what what 323 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: are they calling? They did this humongous expose on people 324 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: who bought Twitter followers. I don't remember doing it first 325 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: of all, and it was like kind of a joke, 326 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: like it wasn't like, oh no, no, not only the joke. 327 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: You know, I bought all my friends Twitter Twitter follower 328 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: bombed them, meaning I would buy them and they'd wake 329 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: up and go, why do I have five thousand more? 330 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: I thought it was the funniest thing ever. Yeah, and 331 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: then everyone took it way too serious. People started to 332 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: get suspended from their jobs, like they oh, yeah, they 333 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: found all these high profile people that have bought a 334 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand Twitter followers, half of them, and I'm going, 335 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm on the same story with people who bought Oh no, 336 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: and even then, who cares? Yeah seriously though? So yeah, 337 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: so but they the same group. We're like, okay, we're 338 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: gonna hand so they handled that, and they were they 339 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: were just kind of walking me through it, like because 340 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about it. I wanted to 341 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: go on the radio and be like, oh, yeah, I 342 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: did this seven years ago. We went back and on 343 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the receipt about five thousand Twitter followered about like seven 344 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: of my friends Twitter followers. But they were like, don't 345 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: do it, and they kind of guided me through it. 346 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: And then the story for the most part, kept me 347 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: out of it because I wouldn't talk to them about it, right, 348 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: But that's not how I was going to handle it. 349 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: But I had to listen to the experts, totally lean 350 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: on people that know the best. Yeah, I know, we 351 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't like anything bad, but um actually 352 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: it's really great. But um. I was talking to Kirsten, 353 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: our publicist, UM, just for people that don't know that 354 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: we have the same one because we're saying names and 355 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: people like who with that. But anyway, so I was 356 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: telling her before I got engaged in May, I was like, 357 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: hey me, and you know my boyfriend. You know at 358 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: the time, what's the same boyfriend? But you know what 359 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: I mean? So wait, hang on, so we how do 360 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: I explain this? So I was asking her because I 361 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of had a feeling that he may propose this year, 362 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: not as soon as he did, but like this year, 363 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: because we were talking about it and I was like, 364 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, what should we do if that happened? And 365 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: she was like, okay, well this was what we'll do, 366 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: and she's like, when we get there, we'll get there. 367 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: Well after that conversation, he proposed like a week later, 368 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, well, we're engaged, so that 369 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: plan has to like, we gotta go now. So she 370 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, I didn't knows this soon, but 371 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: we'll go like it they'll good. So they kind of 372 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: guide those press releases and stuff. What's the thought then, 373 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: and I think both of you guys are probably in 374 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: different stages talk about this. Uh, Mannie will talk to you. 375 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: So you get engaged, and so how how quickly do 376 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: you post a picture? Because you're a public person too, 377 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: so there's kind of some strategy to the So what 378 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Jonah and I did was we okay, So we were 379 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: going on vacation for our seven year anniversary in May 380 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: at the end of May. So he proposed the night 381 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: before we were leaving, and we both agreed. We were like, 382 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what, we want to go on our vacation 383 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: and like not be blown up, Like I mean, it's 384 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: so exciting. But we just called our close friends like 385 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: obviously FaceTime table right after it happened, but um, like 386 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: our families and told that they already knew that it 387 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: was going to happen, so it was really just me 388 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: telling them. But um, so we kept it secret for 389 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: like a whole week, maybe a week and a half actually, 390 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: because we wanted to go on vacation and not be 391 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: on our phones and be present. And then um, after vacation, 392 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: we flew to Houston, where I'm from, and my sister 393 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: was graduating high school, so it was like we had 394 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: a graduation thing and then we had an engagement party 395 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: with our family and then you got to do a 396 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: photo shoot. Yes, so we like pictures of the ring. Yeah, 397 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: so his cousin is a photographer, and basically we're like, hey, 398 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: if you'll get some pictures for us, we'll just you know, 399 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: do that and then just do a big announcement. But 400 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: it was kind of fun keeping it secret for a 401 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: little while. Not that it's anything to be secret, but 402 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: it was just nice to have that. Yeah, like moment 403 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: just for us us. You should, you should. How long 404 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: did you have to keep that under wraps from the 405 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: minute it happened until you put it on Instagram? How 406 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: long was that? Yeah? Yeah, a little over a week, Yeah, 407 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: something like that, because I was ready to post a picture, 408 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: like if we get this roll in, because I'm a 409 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: picture of my cash and okay, okay, so you're not engaged, 410 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: but you do post pictures of your boyfriend. So that's 411 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: a thing too, when you decide to finally post a 412 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: picture of your significant other. That's something that I feel 413 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: like a lot of artists kind of have to well 414 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: think about, like pre posting. I don't know if you're 415 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: the same way, but for me being in a semi 416 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: public relationship years ago, I know the consequences and the 417 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: negatives of what it's like whenever it's no longer a 418 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: relationship and then it's private and people think that they 419 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: know more than they do, and then that's fine, but 420 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: then you kind of want to take it all back, 421 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: but you can't because it's out there. So I feel 422 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: like it's it's a bit of a risk. But like 423 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: with our music, it's a risk whenever we share our 424 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: heart in our songs, so' she just took a minute like, 425 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, she had many, many discussions with Mattie. I 426 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, maybe allway, like a year 427 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: after we've been dating, and then oh, y'all are like that. 428 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: But such a great relationship and I'm happy and my 429 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: fans deserve to know that I'm happy, and they deserve 430 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: to know where my heart's at. So do you say 431 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: his name josh I mean I know, yes, Joshua, Okay, Joshua, Joshua. 432 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: So you do say his name? Yes? Okay? So but 433 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: you waited how long until you put that up from 434 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: when you started dating? Well, we kind of we did 435 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: the dance the friends dance. Friends don't have plug plug 436 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: you are literally friends. You and Josha Franks for a 437 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: long time, well not a long time. So we met 438 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: four years ago on radio tour and just knew of 439 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: each other and but we had never written together until 440 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: October of last year or this year. Last year. It's 441 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: not set this year, so it's two thousand seventeen we 442 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: wrote for the first time, and he and I had 443 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: both just gotten out of relationships. So we were just like, 444 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to do this. Um, we're hanging out 445 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: in the same friend group, but like, let's each individually 446 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: take our time to kind of do some soul searching. 447 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: And so then we kind of went back and forth, 448 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: but we to each other, but I wasn't going to 449 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: do anything about it, and so we went on our 450 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: first date in December and then still kind of did 451 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: the dance and then finally officially called each other put 452 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: a label on it in March. But then, when when 453 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: do you put the picture up? Though I didn't put 454 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: it up until right before a c m S because 455 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: I knew that, yeah, right before a c MS in April, 456 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: So it's like the second week of April, and I 457 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: knew that we were about to get on a plane 458 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 1: to Vegas with the whole town of Nashville and people 459 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: were going to see and it didn't you wanted to 460 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: beat it, yes, exactly before people spread such a weird 461 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: thing because and I asked these questions because I've dealt 462 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: with the same, not dealt with I've been lucky enough 463 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: to have great people that are public as well. So 464 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: I've been into too public relationships and you learn that 465 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: they have lives too, and people what they see, what 466 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: people are saying, and I have grown my skin has 467 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: grown stronger through the years from from from having people 468 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: tell me I suck and awesome and all the things. 469 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: But now they're getting into this world and they're being 470 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: subjected to it kind of just by association. And then 471 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: they go to their page and they find them they 472 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: can write, so you know, I have my first one, 473 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'll learn from that. Then 474 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: I you know, David Lindsay and then but it's weird 475 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: because then people want to know. Since they see all 476 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: the happy stuff, They're like, oh, well, now we should 477 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: know all the really bad stuff. And I don't know 478 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: that they're wrong. I'm gonna say this, I don't know 479 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: that people are wrong. It's a weird place to be 480 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: because you're like, oh, it sucks for them. I think 481 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: y'all handled it, or you and Lindsay because we were 482 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: good friends with her too, like we love her. But um, 483 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: I think that y'all handled it in like a super 484 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: respectful way, like there was never or at least to 485 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: my knowledge, there wasn't like any animosity and there we 486 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: only had to split up because that's well, the other 487 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: UM companies were penalizing her, so that was really the 488 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: just absolutely disgusting. Well, I just wouldn't have happened to 489 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: a dude, because I know dude artists that dated female 490 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: radio and it didn't happen. It's so funky. So I 491 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: don't get that. Well, even the dating thing, like people 492 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: get so mad that like we're if people find out 493 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: that we're in a committable really yeah, it's like you 494 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: have to seem available in sexy and oh yeah, confinitely, 495 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: why don't but people know? I will say. There was 496 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: an observation made by our merch girl that was out 497 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: on the road with us this past weekend, and she 498 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: was watching the audience while Maddie was introducing Trying On Rings, 499 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: which is a song about her and Jonah's love story. 500 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: It's on the new record and we haven't heard yet. Yes, yes, 501 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: so you're a plan I want to come back. Oh yeah, 502 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: we're giving the sneak peaks. So Maddie was introducing the 503 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: song and the moment she said, I'm engaged in my 504 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: house called sweetheart Sarah, our merch girl was watching a 505 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: group of guys and they just apparently like threw their 506 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: hands in the air and was pissed. I don't know 507 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: him and high, and I'm like, why because you thought, 508 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: like because she thought you had a chance. I don't know, well, 509 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: not even that. It's just like, I'm not your property. 510 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, like, you bought a ticket to the 511 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: show and we're going to entertain you and we're not 512 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: have a great time, but don't make it weird. You can. Yeah, 513 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: you can like our music without wanting to date it. 514 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Like I love Harry Styles so much, and if he 515 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: ever got engaged or whatever, I would be like, that's great. 516 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I still love you a lot, and I think you 517 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: are so handsome and so talented, but we're gonna leave 518 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: it there. Yeah, he's so awesome. I saw him at 519 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: the rhyme and I was like, how did you go? Yeah, 520 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: Jonah came with me too, and I just looked at it. 521 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: I was like, he was one of the only guys 522 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: in there. Actually, Gator Harrison was there, yes, with his 523 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: daughter sitting right behind us, and he was like, oh, 524 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: thank god, there's another dude here. It is a bit 525 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: unfair to be a female in music, not just country 526 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: music and all music. I mean, look at the dudes 527 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: and they're not gonna care if I say this. But 528 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm the prints with John Party. Yeah, he makes his 529 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: shirts ironed, he puts his hat on, and he goes 530 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: out and he plays this show. You guys mentioned that 531 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you gotta get all aside from the music part of it, 532 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: which is even more so. There's just so many more 533 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: steps that you have to go through as a female artist, 534 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, you don't even get 535 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: the same I'll say fair look that the male artists get, 536 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: because I'm never the guy that thinks there should be anything. Ever, 537 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: I think the best. I think, look, as long as 538 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna an equal look. It could be seventy thirty 539 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: female to male, male to female. I don't care as 540 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: long as people get the equal look. And I think 541 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: people go, oh, Bobby is guy not at all? No, No, 542 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I think let's just look at things based on merit. 543 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: More so than because I was talking to a female 544 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: artist friend of mine and I know you guys are 545 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna relate to this, and she goes, oh, I can't, uh, 546 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: this label already has a female. And the fact that 547 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: you have to go, oh, well, this label already has 548 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: a female, so they can have another one that's somewhat 549 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: all the dudes are the same. Yeah, why can't there 550 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: be two people so they have a kind of a 551 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: like set. We had to consider that when we moved, 552 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: they were trying to put us, you know, and this 553 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: is not to discredit our record label because we love them, 554 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: but in reality, you like, it is hard about it. Yeah, 555 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: And it's so weird that there's only so many spots 556 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: for females. But Ty and I always say, like, we 557 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: we don't want to play softball, Like, don't pity us 558 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: because we're women, Like, we want to play baseball with 559 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: the boys, and best song wins and best artists wins, 560 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: like don't care of your chick or a dude whatever 561 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: it is, like the most town, and if it's not us, 562 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: that's fair. But if there's not a fair look at everyone, 563 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: that's where it gets a little wonky. But I'm like, 564 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: if everyone gets a fair shot and we don't, we're 565 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: not you know, the winning ticket or whatever, that's fine. 566 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: But as long as it's looked at, you get the 567 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: chance to put your best foot forward. Yeah, totally tell 568 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: me about this song, so you guys kind of come 569 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: on and you do. Girl in a Country Song played 570 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: a little bit Girl in the Country Song so do 571 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: you guys still like the song? I do. It's I 572 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: was trying to think about how many times we've played it, 573 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Like it's only been four years. I mean, that's still 574 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: a long time. But like I was like, I wonder 575 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: how many times, Like I would be curious to know 576 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: the number of thousands. With radio tour doing like three 577 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: shows a day for a year and a half, we 578 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: gotta be in that in the thousand brackets somehow easily 579 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: a thousand, Yeah, I would think easily a thousand. But 580 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: this song, so it was kind of a rocket ship 581 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: for you guys, at least from my side of it. It 582 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: It was like and I kind of just started too, 583 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: you know, I just moved from the world and I 584 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: come over and I'm, you know, the guy that's and 585 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: everybody hates me because I'm so different, and they're like ah, 586 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh good, these girls are different too, 587 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: And you guys come in and first of all, you're 588 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: really good. But there's there's a novelty to this song 589 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: too at the same thing. And so but it was 590 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: just like the videos like Splash, like here you are 591 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: and yeah, I watched that video recently, like for the 592 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: first time in years, and I was like, I haven't. 593 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: We were some ballsy eighteen year old girls like whoa. 594 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: I guess I did not realize how big of a 595 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: deal this song was until like going through what we've 596 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: been through the past couple of years, or I was like, 597 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: you know what, like this is not gonna happen. But 598 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: if God forbid everything like just like fell apart or whatever, 599 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: because I mean it has for us, you know, last year. 600 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: But if all of that happened over again, at least 601 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: like we said something like we said something that was 602 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: important and needed to be said, and I would love 603 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: to keep doing that obviously, but um, just watching that back, 604 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like we were fearless? How did that happen? 605 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: This song comes out though in this sense it's your 606 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: first song. Do you guys think that's normal? Like was 607 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: that norm? Was it? Like? This is? Oh, this is 608 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: how it's done. We have a song or a bit 609 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: where you're like, whoa this is It's kind of hard 610 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: to compare it to something that you've never had. Something 611 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: else that was that was the issue, If I can 612 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: say issue, it really wasn't an issue because it was 613 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: a blessing and it got us to where we are now. 614 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: But if there's anything the con to that was just 615 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: being so green and almost like, I mean, we were 616 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: a baby artist. We like you said, we had nothing 617 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: to compare it to, and so our whole team the 618 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: entire time Girl was rising up the charts and doing 619 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: all of these milestones. It was like they said, this 620 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: isn't normal. You're not You're gonna have to work much 621 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: much harder on your next single, and they were trying 622 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: to warn us, but we still didn't have that experience 623 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: in our in our back pocket to kind of draw from. 624 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: So for us in a way at the time, it 625 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: was normal, which is crazy to think back and look at, like, 626 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I wish I would have had more experience so I 627 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: could cherish those moments more and not just like like 628 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: stop and smell the roses first. Like, even though it 629 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: sounds so cliche, like I don't remember a lot of 630 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: that because it was just like onto the next day, Okay, 631 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: you did the Today's Show as your first full band show. Great, Okay, 632 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: let's go do it again. It found like it was 633 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: just nuts and I'm like, I don't know how we 634 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: did all that, but um, I'm kind of glad that 635 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: we are so like green and like um, just and 636 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: furious because we would do anything like now we know better, 637 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: like don't play three shows in one day. You're gonna 638 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: wear yourself out and it's gonna mess you up. Like 639 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: don't do that, like you know, just stuff like that. 640 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Or don't fly from Orlando to New York back to 641 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: Orlando in one day and do three shows. That's not 642 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: a good idea. Just just say no. Sometimes you have 643 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: to say no to things. But I'm glad that it 644 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: happened then, and it kind of gives us I don't know, 645 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: it gives us perspective on like we have done this before. 646 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: It's not going to be as easy this next go round. 647 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: But it did it a little backwards. I sometimes I 648 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: wish it was slipped, but it's okay. So that song 649 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: did it hit one? Did? So it goes to number one? 650 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: And what's the next single after that? Fly? Okay, So 651 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Fly comes out and doesn't go number one. It was 652 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: a number seven, but it impacted really well, which was 653 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of cool. We knew the the hardness of what 654 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: was to come with that song too, and it was 655 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: a ballad. Were in the summer. They're all these rules, 656 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: but so this song comes out, I love you the 657 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: song by the way about I'm only asking this backward, 658 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: but it doesn't go number one. So you've had a 659 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: number one, then you have one that doesn't go number one. 660 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: What do you think after that? I was really happy 661 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: because people were The way I measured it personally was 662 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: how people were singing back when we were on stage 663 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: and they were singing fly and still do just as 664 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: loud as girl. So to me that was a number 665 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: one song, like maybe not on the charts, but form 666 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: for our fans and for my spirit. I was like, 667 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: we landed another one. This is a message song to 668 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: message songs resonate, you know, and and ballad you can 669 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: actually listen to the words right now. I try to 670 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: walk that line of I still try to be a 671 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: consumer as much as I possibly can. And most people 672 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: hear melody, that's all they hear in the song before 673 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: they Again. I have to remember this because I you know, 674 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: I write comedy and I write song dumb songs and stuff, 675 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: and I go, oh, the lyrics, they're they're very important, 676 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: but most people hear the melody first and listen, I 677 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what you're saying, and so, but slower songs, 678 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: people can actually hear the words and get the message 679 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: to it, which is kind of a weird thing, and 680 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: that's also a strong message song. Yeah, and so um, Okay, 681 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: so the Fly comes out, you're like, okay, cool, I 682 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: didn't go number one, but we still loved it because 683 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: people loved it. Okay, next song. Next song was shut 684 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: Up Fish, shut him Fish. Yeah. By the way, I 685 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: know all the answers to this, I'm just kind of 686 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: walking you guys, I'm trying to think of the purpose 687 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: of the order of singles. I know that the reason 688 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: we put out Fly after Girl was because of, you know, 689 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: just the comments after releasing Girl. These girls are yeah, 690 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: exactly their one. I wonder this is all they can do, 691 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: This is all they can say that there will be 692 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: nothing about this, And so we wanted to kind of 693 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: prove our place in the industry and say, hey, no, 694 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: like we can be deep too, as nineteen year old girls, 695 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: we have depth to us. So that's why we released Fly, 696 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: and that's why we were fine with it going top ten, 697 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: because it's still made an impact and we were able 698 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: to show a different side of us. And so with Fish, Um, 699 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: I feel like it kind of we kind of tried 700 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: to go back two girl in a way, if that 701 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: makes sense. Our team was still very new at DOT 702 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: and so a newer team only been together a couple 703 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: of years, and basically everyone was like, Hey, we already 704 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: did this and this is close to this, so let's 705 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: do it again. And the fourth single, which we pulled 706 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: like super fast Sierra, Um, that was kind of the 707 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: same situational, quirky and funny and yeah, and like it 708 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: was like the one trick pony thing. We're like, there's 709 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: more on this record. But I mean, Sierra, I still 710 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: love that song, but I'm personally glad add that that 711 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: didn't work because it's about my actual high school bully 712 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: and I did not want to out her like that, 713 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: but that's kind I had to text her and be like, look, 714 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: haven't heard for me in three years. We're not on 715 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: great terms, but I just want to let you know 716 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: the song. She knew about the song because like it 717 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: accidentally got leaked two weeks before I graduated because I 718 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: sent it to a girl differently. Um, But basically, she 719 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: was just the girl that every guy wanted, which is 720 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: totally reasonable because she's beautiful, but just like, I mean, 721 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: if she could make anyone feel smaller or just less than, 722 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: she took that opportunity. And because she could, she's the 723 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: hottest chicken school and every guy wants her and UM. 724 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: And so the girl that actually transferred high schools because 725 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: of her UM I sent it to her and she 726 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I feel like I finally 727 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: stood up to her and all this stuff. And then 728 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: I was like, well, don't send this to any one. 729 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: I'm about to move to Nashville and you can send 730 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: it toever you want then, but first let me get 731 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: out of town. And that didn't happen. So the whole 732 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: school heard it, and she was like, you know, just 733 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: Twitter ranting, like man, he's obsessed with me. That F 734 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: and B is all this stuff. So I was like, 735 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win again. So I pulled up in 736 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: my truck at school and I went into my parking 737 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: place and I turned the song up all the way 738 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: up our little demo, and I just sat there and 739 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: her little friend group was standing right there, and I 740 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: was just looking at them, like, you're not gonna win. 741 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: I wrote this song because you're mean to a lot 742 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: of That's what we call little Texas. Yeah, little Texas 743 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: is this very feisty crazy, not crazy, but like you're 744 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: just I will fight back, like I'm not I'm not 745 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: a doormat. There's something to put in her name on 746 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: the Yeah. I I came home crying so many times 747 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: through junior high and high school because of her, and 748 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: so I don't know, they've just felt like I felt 749 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: empowered by like writing this song and hey Tara, yeah, yeah. 750 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: It worked perfect though, because she was in pageants. So 751 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 1: the Tierra line like well, and her best friend in 752 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: school was named Tierra literally her name. So let me 753 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 1: share it. Let me share a story. When I wrote 754 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: I wrote my wrote my first book. I had a 755 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: story about an artist that I had really had a 756 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: really miserable relationship with. It was just it was just 757 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: not good okay country artists, and it was really bad. 758 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't And I wrote it and I was like 759 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: put it in, screw it, and put it out. So 760 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: my manager Corn comes up to me and goes, hey, 761 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: you should take this out of the book, And I said, 762 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: why is that? Because you're really not gonna like the 763 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: fact that in five years you might actually be friends 764 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: with this person. You don't want there. You kind of 765 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: just I don't want their name. You don't you don't 766 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: want to put their their name name. He said, write 767 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: it as a like, you know, somebody generic. Yeah, And 768 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: so I took it out of the book and then 769 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: we later become really good friends. It's Kip kept so 770 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: funny and the best thing here because because it was 771 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: just a story about us getting into a fight once 772 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: and Kevin I went to figured it all out, we're 773 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: actually really good now and I'm so glad I didn't. 774 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: I just wonder, like with you with the did you 775 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: ever think maybe she didn't name it something else and 776 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: not her specifically. I felt like there was a lot 777 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: of people that needed that song. And the minute that 778 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: we started meeting having fans and meeting fans, and they 779 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: started connecting with that song and telling me I have 780 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: a Sierra, I have someone that you know. And I 781 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: feel so much power with this song. And there are 782 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: so many people that share their like bullying stories. And 783 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: since the song is more like upbeat and fun, it 784 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: kind of shines a lighter light on a really bad situation. 785 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: So I felt like we did the right thing by 786 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: making it so personal, because I feel like sometimes when 787 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: you do the softball thing and you do the generic, 788 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: it may not connect as deep as the authentic thing. 789 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: So I was willing to take the hit, and she 790 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: when I messaged her and told her, she was like, 791 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: no hard failings, like hope everything is good. Yeah, so 792 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: I know, but you gotta think if someone wrote a 793 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: song about how awful you were, you'd probably clean up 794 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: your act, or at least I would. I would be like, 795 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: I have got to check my soul. I would be 796 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: like if someone I heard double down, so okay, so 797 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: that song, that song it gets pulled. I don't even 798 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: know where that maybe, yeah, but that was that was 799 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: the right Did the record label go down before the 800 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: song was pulled? Like? What was the timing? It was 801 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: like on the d L. Funky stuff was happening. I 802 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: think after the song got pulled, yeah, because it was 803 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: the very end of UM two thousand sixteen where I 804 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: think it all started to the cookie started to crumble. 805 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: But we had no idea until uh, February of two 806 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. So how does that conversation go when they 807 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: pull you in and they say, hey, Maddie Tay, let's 808 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: sit down for us. Do they call you in at 809 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: the same time. Thankfully, our our manager did some little 810 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: investigating and she was very close with the head of 811 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 1: the label over there, so they were always in contact 812 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: and he would be straight up with her. And so 813 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: I remember sitting down at Pinewood Social actually at the bar, 814 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: and we were just having breakfast during CRS and she 815 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: just kind of said, Hey, I think something is about 816 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: to happen. We don't know what, but just just know this. 817 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Whatever happens, I promised, like, I'll take care of you. 818 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 1: So so then they say, okay, the labels folding, Yeah, 819 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: you don't have a record deal. What immediately happens in 820 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: you guys mind? I knew that it wasn't like over 821 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: because Tay and I were in it to win it 822 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: like there's this is not splitting no matter what BS 823 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 1: goes down, um, And so I was like, you know what, 824 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it was kind of fuzzy. Honestly, 825 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: I tried to like numb it because it it felt 826 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: really bad after going from like the top the world 827 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: and then it's like, so what are y'all doing? How 828 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: does it feel to not have a like label home? 829 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: It's like it feels terrible and you and you feel 830 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: like you have nothing to show forth, and um, it's 831 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: felt like that for the past year and a half. Honestly, 832 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: it's like, because this industry, you're always trying to prove yourself. 833 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: You're always trying to like not prove yourself, but like 834 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: you're always wanting to. Like it's always onto the next 835 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: thing and the next thing and the next thing. We 836 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: don't have the next thing yet, obviously we have coming. Yeah, yeah. 837 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: And then we were in that like weird holding period, 838 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: and that was where like, I don't know if you've 839 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: experienced this, but I had a really bad issue with 840 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: tying my self worth into what I did and not 841 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: who I was. Absolutely I think we all do. If 842 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 1: we really work hard at what if you give it everything, 843 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,319 Speaker 1: if it's your priority, it's hard for it not to 844 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: be where you put your worth. I've struggle and I 845 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: still struggle with that every single day. It's a I 846 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: mean even now, like we have a song out and 847 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: things are a lot better, but I we still struggle. 848 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: Like it's I mean, it's a normal thing. But those 849 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: like maybe four months that felt like five years of 850 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: this like in between phase was where I just slowly 851 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: started unraveling that whole web of like, Okay, I am 852 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: not what I do, I am who I am. So 853 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure who I am is like, 854 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: like what do I want people to see? What do 855 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 1: I want to give out to the world in an 856 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: odd way? Aren't you a bit grateful for that experience? 857 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: You would never walk yourself into it because you would 858 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: never go, you know what, I really want to find 859 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: it who I am? So let's let things suck for us, 860 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: but mine have. I got find a million dollars by 861 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: the FCC like three years ago, and for me that 862 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: was I thought I was done and that was like 863 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I don't because 864 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing else to find because you kind of suck. 865 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: I was find with myself it kind of sucks. I'm like, 866 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: oh man, let me try to find the reason I'm 867 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: still good. And so I'm trying to find like and 868 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad because I was getting a little too obnoxious 869 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: about that time. It really reset me into hey, oh yes, 870 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: you got you got a little caught up. That's with 871 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: me talking to myself. You've got a little caught up 872 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: in all of that. Stop you just gotta find a 873 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,239 Speaker 1: million dollars and if you get through this, you're gonna 874 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 1: appreciate it so much more and you're really gonna work 875 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: to help others that are going through similar struggles. So 876 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: that happened with me, and it sounds like probably happened 877 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: to you guys too, because when you hit that down, 878 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: you go oh, and you appreciate it so much more 879 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: as it kind of rehappening again. Oh yeah, you need 880 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: those moments to check yourself. I mean yeah, but they 881 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: still happen. I mean, I melted down on Tay what 882 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: three days ago. I just had to let it out, 883 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: Like sometimes it's just that cline game of just like 884 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm sure you felt this, Like if 885 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: a crowd doesn't receive you will or doesn't like cheer 886 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: you on, Like how do you not get affected by that? 887 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: But you're putting everything that you have into a crowd 888 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: and maybe they're just not feeling it, or maybe they 889 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: just don't show it and they're loving it and they 890 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: just don't show it. So how do you not feel 891 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: like the worst entertainer? You know what I mean? Like 892 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: just that whole mind game that comes with the job. 893 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: It's funny you bring that up and I just talked 894 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: about kid. But that's the thing that Kip and I've 895 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: talked about a few times, like off microphones, like it's that. 896 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 1: So I do stand up comedy and I I watched 897 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: the people, but I can't watch their faces anymore. I 898 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,919 Speaker 1: have to watch their heads because I can't assign how 899 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: I react to something funny to what how they're reacting 900 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: to me because we all react differently, right, so someone 901 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: may be thinking it's really funny, and they may not 902 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: be a laugh out loud and they're just saying and 903 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: the same thing that people was like, man, I would 904 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: get so mad when people would not look up or 905 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: they'd be on their phones, and it was, Hey, that 906 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: just might be how they're receptive to your But it's 907 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: a heart change. Trying not to take it personal is 908 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,479 Speaker 1: a battle. But yeah, for sure, I feel like going 909 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: back to what you said is being thankful about going 910 00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 1: through the trial is the people that we are now, 911 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: which every day we're figuring out who we are and 912 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: what our purposes and all of that and becoming the 913 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: best version of ourselves. But two years ago, a year ago, 914 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: the people that we were dramatically different, and I love 915 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: we loved we were then, but we love ourselves even 916 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 1: more now and the record that we created would not 917 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: have been possible without the emotions that we felt doing 918 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: and really crappy to. Our friendship is a different level too, 919 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: like we're like sisters. Yeah, it's like beyond any of that. 920 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: Like there's just like when you go through the trenches 921 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: with someone and there's not a doubt, like we're we're 922 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: in our own marriage basically like we are, like there 923 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: is no backing out, like we are in it when it. 924 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: We're in this together. We support each other. If one 925 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: of us is having an off day, the other one 926 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: makes up for it. And that's why I'm like, oh, 927 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: being a solo artist, I don't know how you go 928 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: out there and freaking do that by yourself? Do you really? 929 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: I believe you. You really can't trust some one until 930 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: you have to trust someone and they come through. I 931 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: have the same thing with my coach. You should put 932 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: that in a book. Is that already in one of 933 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 1: your books? That's good. That's a really good, like classic quote, 934 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: because you really don't know until it has to happen, 935 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: and then once it happens, you have Then you guys 936 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: have experienced that my coast and I have experienced that. 937 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: Amy and I we've been together for four fourteen years 938 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: or so and so, but we've had you know, her 939 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: mom died, my mom died, her kids from the orphanage. 940 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: We've had to have it to the back so many 941 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: times in situations that weren't good. But then you realize 942 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: and you have that trust that hey, oh if they're 943 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: not good again, we may fight, we may have but 944 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: like we're in it, yes, and you really don't know 945 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: that until you have to know that. And sometimes it 946 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 1: doesn't work out. Sometimes you with someone you go, oh, well, 947 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: this is not gonna work. Like there's put pressure on it, 948 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: so it breaks. But if it's stronger through pressure, then 949 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: you realize you can actually go a little bit deeper. Yeah, 950 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: there's yeah. Everyone asked like, so, like did y'all think 951 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: about breaking up? We're like, we didn't. That was not 952 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: even one thing. Like we thought, maybe we won't get 953 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 1: to be artists again, but we'll still be songwriters or 954 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we're gonna have to like go get 955 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: a job at Walmart to pay the bit, like I mean, 956 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: if it never get like that. But um, just because 957 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: we started the whole thing as songwriters and so if anything, 958 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: but we we want it so bad and we will 959 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: and we work so hard that like it, it's that's 960 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: our that's gonna be our thing. This is gonna happen. 961 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be hard, which is fine. I do. 962 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: I do not mind the uphill climb this time because 963 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: it's like there's a gratefulness that will exude from us 964 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: that will hopefully inspire other people. Makes a heck of 965 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: a story. Yeah, we gotta damn good story. You guys 966 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: make enough money with the first song to be okay 967 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: for a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Mattie and I are very 968 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: very careful with our money. Yeah we don't. We have 969 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: both have paid off cars, um very conservative home, like 970 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: we just but I don't know. I don't watch that Gucci. 971 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm like a principal person. I don't. I don't know. 972 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you're like making millions of dollars, 973 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,439 Speaker 1: like treat yourself, but my treat myself is like getting 974 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: a pedicure once a month or something, you know, But 975 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. My parents always give me so much 976 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 1: grief because they're like, like we grew up like you know, 977 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: middle class like it wasn't like we were poor, but 978 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: I like I pretend like I'm poor, like I just 979 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: saved my money and make sure like if anything ever happened, 980 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 1: I had it in savings. I don't. I don't necessarily 981 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: like to live like the end of the world, because 982 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: I like to leave room for God to perform as miracles. 983 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: But it's like a middle ground, like I have enough 984 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: to live and I'm not I'm not dying. I'm not 985 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: crazy poor and I'm not crazy rich. I'm somewhere in 986 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: the middle, and it's good. It works for where's like 987 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: the you know that Jody Messina song the I'm above 988 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: below and the low I'm stuck in the middle where 989 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: our money is type. But I guess doing all right. 990 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: I love that song. That line is so cool, so 991 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 1: maybe that's where we were stuck in the middle where 992 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: when he gets no, I'm just kidding. Any other cuts 993 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,880 Speaker 1: from have you given your song to other people? Have 994 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: you any other cuts? She cut a song called Boomerang 995 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: that we wrote um and we got to see her 996 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: perform at one time, and that was pretty awesome. Awesome, 997 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Like it's a whole different kind of cool. It's a 998 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: cool because you do what you do. But when someone 999 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: else takes your song, yeah, regardless, like if someone else 1000 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: thinks it's good enough, maybe someone who gave it to her, Yeah, 1001 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 1: But if someone thinks it's good enough and they cut 1002 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: and they spend the money and then they sing it 1003 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: like you created that, and it's like you, it's like 1004 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: a nephew. Yeah. Kid, it's like a nephew yes, where 1005 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: you get to like like oh my gosh, and you 1006 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: just get to like pass it on. It really is. 1007 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,520 Speaker 1: It's even more validation of being a good songwriter because 1008 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: if someone else wants it, yeah, because obviously we can 1009 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: get on stage and sing the songs that we wrote. 1010 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: But if someone else wants to get one agent singing 1011 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 1: the song that we wrote, it's pretty cool. So let's 1012 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: let's go to now. So you do you shop record labels? 1013 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: Do you do you? You talked to a few of them? Okay, 1014 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 1: how does that one? Did you beg for? What happens now? 1015 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: So it's really confusing even for people in the industry. 1016 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: Breaking down for me as simple as possible, I'm kind 1017 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: of idiot. No, you're not an idiot at all, but okay, 1018 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: for me, it's hard to explain. So basically DOT was 1019 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: a co venture between Universal New York and Big Machine 1020 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 1: so UM which I mean they both owned it. They 1021 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 1: both owned it, so she helped fund. Yes, but in 1022 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,439 Speaker 1: New York, so like Ariana Grande Drake, like all them. 1023 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: So when Dot folded, since UMG funded it, they had 1024 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: first right of refusal. So basically they said, okay, u 1025 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: MG New York, are there any artists on this roster 1026 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: that you want? Um and if you don't want them, 1027 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 1: then we'll put them on other Big Machine or like, 1028 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: if you just don't feel like it's a fit, we'll 1029 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: move them to other Big Machine imprints. But but you 1030 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: get the first option. So they we were the only 1031 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: ones that moved. So at the time we were thinking like, 1032 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is like why didn't Why are 1033 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: we the only ones? But like hindsight, it's like, wait, 1034 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: freaking um G. New York is huge and we have 1035 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: like really good buddies over there. Monty and Avery are awesome. 1036 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: But so basically Universal New York was like, look, we're 1037 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: in New York. We can't work these girls from here. 1038 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure they could, but um yeah, and 1039 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: so U m G. Nashville was like, well, hey, let's 1040 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 1: figure something out so we can both kind of work together. 1041 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 1: So um, so we knew we were UMG for a while, 1042 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: but it was deciding which imprints. So was it going 1043 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: to be m c A, Was it going to be Mercury? 1044 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 1: Was it going to be um which there are different 1045 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: little just like yeah, I guess like different companies. Surely 1046 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 1: you would have the Cubs and the Braves. Yes, like 1047 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: Sam Haunt is under U m G m c A 1048 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: and we are UMG Mercury. So they had rights to you. 1049 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 1: So they thank you. That's good. Yeah, okay, so we 1050 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 1: felt wanted it was nice. Yeah, So you go and 1051 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,479 Speaker 1: you go. So what does it start? Do you start 1052 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: making music? You start writing songs and they say go right, 1053 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: and then bring back what you have, like what what's 1054 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: the first conversation? First things first was deciding because we 1055 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 1: had started to cut a record end of two thousand sixteen, 1056 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,280 Speaker 1: December of two thousand sixteen with Big Machines Big Machine. 1057 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: So first things first was deciding do we want to 1058 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 1: keep that music or do we want to scrap it 1059 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: and completely go different direction for the second record. If 1060 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,400 Speaker 1: you kept it, did you have to pay for it? 1061 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: Or give them points on it, or wasn't all yours 1062 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: it was ours because we're Big Machine Publishing, so they 1063 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,959 Speaker 1: didn't want to piss us off because they're still making 1064 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: money off of our songs to Big Machine Publishing. Because 1065 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: we're really tight with everyone there, so we could, but 1066 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: at that moment, deciding whether we wanted to use them 1067 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: was more or less is this still where we're at 1068 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: in our lives or is this what we're still going 1069 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,279 Speaker 1: to write about or are we past that now? Are we? 1070 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: Is it time to be mature women? And so we 1071 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 1: just came to the decision with Stephanie right at u MG. 1072 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: She's the A n R over there, and she kind 1073 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: of so A and R is a position where they 1074 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: help you decide what songs you want on a record 1075 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: and what producer would be great to cut those songs 1076 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: for you and all that kind of stuff. So we 1077 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: sat down with her and that was just kind of 1078 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: how everything got rolling. She said, all right, you guys, 1079 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: dig in and write whatever you want to write and 1080 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: will reconvene when whenever you feel like it's time to. 1081 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: And we're like, really, we can go make a record 1082 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: that we want to make, And she said yeah, so 1083 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,359 Speaker 1: we did. There wasn't rush to write songs to get 1084 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 1: good songs because you wanted to get back on the 1085 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 1: kind of back on the scene or no, because we 1086 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: had already had like the album that we have now. 1087 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: We probably wrote half of those songs when we were 1088 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: still at DOT. Like there was still there's some you 1089 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: know songs that we wrote years ago, maybe just a 1090 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: year ago. Um, but most of the record was written 1091 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: through that really really rough time of like that in 1092 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: between things. But um, we I mean we sat down 1093 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: with maybe like thirty six songs and had to like 1094 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: like we love this song, but had to cross it off, 1095 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: and like it just turned into this like concept record 1096 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 1: where it kind of starts with the friends don't like 1097 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,400 Speaker 1: you know who's going to make the move, and then 1098 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: it goes into this in love phase and then it 1099 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: goes into the heartbreak phase, and then the end of 1100 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: the record is this like really like powerful redemptive thing 1101 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: where there's like four songs back to back all about 1102 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: like just feeling yourself again and getting your power back 1103 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: and getting back on your feet. And so when we 1104 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: sat there and talked about it, we were like, well, 1105 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of what we've been through the past couple 1106 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: of years. So even though it is through the eyes 1107 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: of our relationship, it's we're telling our truth on this 1108 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,439 Speaker 1: record more than ever. Play some of this song here's 1109 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: the friends don't just saying so is just the first 1110 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,480 Speaker 1: track on the new record? So is that part of 1111 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 1: the strategy and putting it up first? Yeah? Yeah, like 1112 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: it's the beginning of the record, at the beginning of 1113 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: the story. It would be really cool to release singles. 1114 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,160 Speaker 1: But if we released our singles kind of in the 1115 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: same sequence as a story, that would be awesome. Um, 1116 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to be the case, 1117 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, obviously yeah. Our label head Damon is leaning 1118 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 1: towards that too, because he he loves the story and 1119 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: loves the like art that is behind the record. It's 1120 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: not just like, hey, let's pick some songs and put 1121 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: it on an album. It was like, wait, no, this 1122 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 1: is a whole story from top to bottom. So when 1123 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: is this hype at record coming out? I know it 1124 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: is a hypothetical record, right the first are you timing it? 1125 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 1: Kind of what the song is? That? What the thing is? Now? Like, well, yeah, 1126 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: we would love to obviously create traction with Friends don't 1127 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,399 Speaker 1: and make sure that it's you know, impacting the way 1128 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: we would like for it to. Then to release the record, 1129 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: so people are I want to listen to it, Yeah, 1130 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: theoretically end of this year, early next year, just depending 1131 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 1: on that's not terribly far to us. It feels like 1132 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: it because we got this record in January. Yeah, so 1133 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 1: so it'll be a year when it comes out like 1134 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: it is going to be the most rewarding. And if it, 1135 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I believe that this is going to be 1136 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: a game changing record for us. But even if it's not, 1137 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: just the accomplishment of putting out another record after all 1138 00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 1: we've been through, be happy just that and everything else 1139 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: as icing on the cake. Mm hmm. Interesting. I believe you. 1140 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I want all of the great things. I 1141 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,160 Speaker 1: want people to connect. My dream is that people all 1142 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: can hear their own stories, like we get really nitty gritty. 1143 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we can play you a couple of songs the correcord. 1144 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 1: I won't listen to songs. I don't listen to songs never, no, no, no, really, 1145 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't listen to anybody's new songs ever before because 1146 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: you want to know, this is what happens if I 1147 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 1: open that door up for one person everybody. Yeah, I 1148 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: forget that that's part of your job and it's not 1149 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,720 Speaker 1: fun friends that are artists, and so even someone like Dirks, 1150 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I can't don't because I don't do 1151 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,760 Speaker 1: it for anybody, and and Dark is like my dude, 1152 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: yeahs sense. So yeah, I don't do it for anyone ever. 1153 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 1: And it's weird because you know I like music. Yeah, 1154 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,280 Speaker 1: you just don't want to. You don't want to be unfair, 1155 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier. You want to give 1156 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 1: everyone of Yeah, I just want to bother it all 1157 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: the time. Because it was like, hey, listen to the 1158 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: song that I gotta get after the fake head thing 1159 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: where I'm like, when you live in Nashville, hey, I 1160 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Though you wanna give an honest response when 1161 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 1: someone let you listen to the song. You don't want 1162 00:56:58,840 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 1: to just say oh I like it, I like it, 1163 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: I like it, I like it. I feel like you 1164 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: know what happens. Sometimes I get a text methods from 1165 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: someone and go, hey, buddy, it's I don't know the number, 1166 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, buddy, like, yeah, I want you to 1167 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: have a new single. Check it out. And I'm not 1168 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: even know who this is, and then you have to 1169 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: go back and scroll and trying to figure out who 1170 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: it is through context clues. I think if I were you, 1171 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 1: If I were you, I would feel like because most 1172 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: of the time when people do that, it's probably because 1173 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: they're working in angle always all the time. I don't 1174 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: trust anyone ever in this business, and I wouldn't either. 1175 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 1: Nobody everybody wants me for something. So when people just 1176 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: genuinely like want you to just hear a song, you 1177 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 1: can't tell if it's genuine or if it's Hey, we 1178 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: want to work in angle and see, you know what 1179 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, So the only way I can be 1180 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 1: genuine is just say it, not doing it. I can't 1181 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 1: do it. Like. The most genuine thing I can do 1182 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: is be consistent with everyone. So I say no. So 1183 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: my point is now, I M gonna listen to your songs. 1184 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,919 Speaker 1: You know what, It's fine, that's okay. Hey, I believe 1185 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: they're good. That you guys are really good. Like you 1186 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: guys are really good. Thank you. Often you know there 1187 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: are everybody's really good at in this town. You have 1188 00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: to be exceptional to be especially as a chick. If 1189 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 1: you're not exceptional, as a girl. Yeah, you're not gonna work. 1190 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: You have to be exceptional with some sort of special specificiplicity. 1191 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: You can't just be great. You have to be great 1192 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 1: and also have some crazy angle about you as a female. 1193 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: We're just totally unfair because you got a bunch of 1194 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: d bad guys that are that they're the same, they 1195 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 1: are good. But I'm glad. I'm just kidding. I'm just 1196 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm so over it. So I feel you. I The 1197 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: thing is, we have so many friends that we root 1198 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,920 Speaker 1: for in love, and then there's there's just I don't know. 1199 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, everyone has their own opinion, and like what 1200 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 1: is what do they say? Like opinions are like armpits. 1201 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: Everyone has two of them and no one wants Yeah, 1202 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: oh there, that's what it is. That's right. Okay, So 1203 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 1: maybe the end of the year of the record comes out. Yeah, 1204 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: that's hoping. Yes, I'm excited did for it to come out, 1205 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 1: because this whole thing is going to make sense when 1206 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: everyone hears the music and here's the story, It's like, oh, 1207 00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: that's what they were talking about a year ago, six 1208 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: months ago at like and then we've got music video 1209 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,560 Speaker 1: coming out and then maybe a tour that we can't 1210 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 1: really talk about but I know about it. No, I'm 1211 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: not going to. But oddly we have a lot of 1212 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: the same people. Yeah, oh yeah, we have the same management. Yeah, 1213 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: we have the same family. Because someone from your team 1214 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 1: that is also on our team come to my house 1215 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,560 Speaker 1: and I was you're talking about um here a minute ago, 1216 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,360 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, why are you here? Oh no, no, 1217 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: ks um what are you talking about? Just someone like 1218 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: really pulled some weight in for what? For this? Why? 1219 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: Why did you whisper off mine? You can say whatever 1220 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: you want, I know, but I don't underst what you're 1221 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 1: saying because I don't say who is what happened, who 1222 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: pulled what weight? For what? Well, he's just awesome, Like 1223 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: he just can say something to me. No, no no know, 1224 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like we have really good we share. 1225 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: We share great people that work their monkeys. That my manager. 1226 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Who's your day to day that's right, Mary? I love her. Yeah, 1227 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: she's great and so oh yeah, he's why I'm on idol. Yeah, 1228 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: because he has Luke and he and he has Lionel 1229 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: and so all the stuff, all the stuff works. It's 1230 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: just my whole career is just finding really good people. 1231 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm not good at anything, but I'm great at finding 1232 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: people that are great at things. Yes, I would. I 1233 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,919 Speaker 1: feel the same way. I know you guys are great, 1234 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: great artists, Thank you. But your team, your team has Yeah, 1235 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: you can't go far without people that know what they're doing. 1236 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,480 Speaker 1: And that's why we, like you said, you hire people 1237 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: that you trust and that you feel like, I can 1238 01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: accomplish those goals that you have for yourself. And I 1239 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 1: mean we don't know like half of the industry stuff, 1240 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: like all the you really got to land on your 1241 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: team for that stuff. Yeah, because they know they've been 1242 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 1: at it longer than us. Obviously, you know when you're 1243 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: getting married. So fun fact, I don't even know if 1244 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be saying this, but so we actually 1245 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: set a date for next year, next fall. But this 1246 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: tour that is happening that will be announced soon, um, 1247 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,760 Speaker 1: so that may conflict with the wedding date. So I 1248 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: pulled Jonah side and I'm like, look, babe, I love 1249 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: you very much, but we may have to move this 1250 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 1: wedding date back. And he was like, yeah, no worries. 1251 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is totally the person I'm 1252 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: so like. I never had a doubt that this is 1253 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:41,919 Speaker 1: who I'm so smarried. But when he was like, yeah, 1254 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:43,680 Speaker 1: no worries, that's fine if we have to move in 1255 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,760 Speaker 1: a couple of months, I was like, thank you Jesus, 1256 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: I got a good man. He is going to be 1257 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: twenty four and October, so yeah, he's he's a gym 1258 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and hell is Josh. I know Josh because his dad. 1259 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: I was on his dad's record. Words the sweetest. He's 1260 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a good dude. Both of his parents are just so sweet. 1261 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: But then aside from that, UM, I hope I'm okay 1262 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: to say that your boyfriend is a great songwriter. Thank you, 1263 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: thank you, And so it was weird for me to 1264 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: see him as a guitar player and then as the 1265 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: son of the record. But he's a great songwriter, thank you. 1266 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: He actually, yes, he is a great songwriter. I'm very 1267 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: proud of him. He wrote two of the songs on 1268 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: our record with us, so that's how the love began, 1269 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: and urban stuff like yeah, and it's hard for me 1270 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: to see your boyfriend as that because I saw him 1271 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: as just a guitar player and as the son of 1272 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: his story is crazy because when his dad decided to 1273 01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: run Black River, Um, he was in college playing trumpet 1274 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and lacrosse and trumpet. Yeah, that's my many trumpet I did. 1275 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: I did. I played trumpet. So he was playing lacrosse 1276 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 1: in college and then had been songwriting like all of 1277 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: high school. And then yeah, I just decided to teach 1278 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: himself how to play guitar and then started playing guitar 1279 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,560 Speaker 1: on the road and that turned to songwriting, and then 1280 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: songwriting turned to producing. Yeah. It's crazy because when you 1281 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,360 Speaker 1: know someone from like a kid up, you're like, Okay, 1282 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: you have double a proof because I but he's really 1283 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,320 Speaker 1: he's really good and you're like the label head's kid. 1284 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 1: But he's freaking amaze. He's one of my favorite people 1285 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 1: to write with. And he was coming of her for 1286 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: this and we had to cancel for some reason. Didn't 1287 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: we get sick or something. I got sick the one 1288 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: time in like ten years I got sick. Josh was 1289 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 1: coming up. I never get sick either, Yeah, I mean, 1290 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 1: and if I do, I just fight through it because 1291 01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: eventually I'll not be sick and I'll be happy I 1292 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: fought through it. That's how I see it. Yeah, eventually 1293 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to feel better again, because you when you're sick. 1294 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: This is it. But then on the other side of it, 1295 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,320 Speaker 1: you go, oh, you do get through it. Yeah, so 1296 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,280 Speaker 1: if I just want to hung in there. But I 1297 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,439 Speaker 1: got really sick the flu. I had the flu last year, 1298 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 1: and that sucker would not go away. It was like 1299 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,240 Speaker 1: three weeks. I was down for the kid. It was bad, 1300 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 1: like I got vertigo from it where I just like 1301 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't even walk downstairs. I would just be like dizzy. 1302 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: It was a mess. Was your boyfriend with you? Yes, 1303 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: so that's gross. Oh and he's a germa Bope. Literally, Bobby, 1304 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: we go into Target and this like we'll be walking 1305 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 1: down an aisle and someone maybe like let's say even 1306 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: twenty feet away, we'll sneeze and we gotta go. We 1307 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: gotta leave, turn around, and I'm like, you gotta be 1308 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 1: kidding me, dude. So me having the flu was absolutely disgusting. Yes, oh, 1309 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: yet all he never caught it either. He's healthy like 1310 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 1: you guys, he never gets sick. I say, I never 1311 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: get sick. I just had a cold, So that's true. 1312 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 1: But I didn't get sick, thank God. And you find 1313 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: someone that you can, like I have body fluids come 1314 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 1: out around. That's kind. But in the reverse. He just 1315 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: had sal vanilla and I had to take care of that, 1316 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: so he to uber disgusting. Yeah, I've never been with 1317 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: anyone with salmonella. It's basically a stomach bug. So it's 1318 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 1: like both the spectrum and you had to be with 1319 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: me through a stomach bug and oh yeah that was 1320 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,320 Speaker 1: when threw up on my foot, And yeah, the bug 1321 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: is such a gross thing, that the bug. It was awful. 1322 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,240 Speaker 1: It was awful, and we were on the bus, which 1323 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: throwing up on a bus is the I don't even 1324 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 1: think the toiletic grinder. So guys like you're listening to 1325 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: this whole debacle, imagine a tour bus toilet is maybe 1326 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 1: even smaller than an airplane toilet, so right, like maybe 1327 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,960 Speaker 1: cut that like in half, and that's a bus toilet 1328 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: and t is puking and I'm trying to catch it 1329 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,880 Speaker 1: in a bag and then it gets on my foot 1330 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to run out of the bus. But 1331 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, hey, through thick and then can't 1332 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 1: trust somebody until you can trust somebody was the quote, 1333 01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:52,160 Speaker 1: don't tell you sometimes the wonderful knowledge. Well, well, well listen, 1334 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: we've been doing this for an hour so fun. I know, 1335 01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 1: I love podcasting. It's so fun, and I liked I 1336 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 1: like your podcast because I feel like you don't do 1337 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: like the surface stuff like, but I do my surface. 1338 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean I do what I think I don't. This 1339 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: is honestly, God, I don't go what can I talk about? 1340 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:16,360 Speaker 1: It's so Secondly, I just I'm lucky enough to still 1341 01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 1: be the consumer but also be in the business enough 1342 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,520 Speaker 1: to know the questions to ask that maybe people don't 1343 01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 1: even know they want to know about, because when I 1344 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 1: explore and go, oh that I didn't know that happen. Yeah, 1345 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know inter Ears told my freaking bands for 1346 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 1: the playing stage is big enough to need in Ears exactly, 1347 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know. So I have a question 1348 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 1: for you before we go. Have you taken the indiogram test? 1349 01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: Every person that comes and asking about that? And know 1350 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I haven't. Okay, what about your Myers pricks? What Myers bricks? 1351 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:53,320 Speaker 1: He's like what. I was just curious because Tay and 1352 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: I are obsessed with this Instagram thing. It's a personality test. 1353 01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of like whatever that means, there is no 1354 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: twelve you like to have fun and kind of guess 1355 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,160 Speaker 1: people's inngeograms. I know as I know. All you have 1356 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 1: to do is go online and we'll send you the link, 1357 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,120 Speaker 1: yes to take it and seven questions. I'm going to 1358 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,360 Speaker 1: put my prediction. Okay, go ahead. I think maybe a 1359 01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: one or an eight? Why why do you think? But 1360 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: what are you assigning this to? What personality? Three? I 1361 01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: don't know what this means. Yeah, I think you're a pizza. 1362 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 1: So when she said she thinks you're a one, that 1363 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,320 Speaker 1: means a it's a reformer where it's like you're always 1364 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 1: wanting to like perfectionists. Yeah, like you're always wanting to 1365 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: like change things for the better and like adjust, Like 1366 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you're never like too comfortable and you're always trying to 1367 01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,240 Speaker 1: like challenge in a good way. And I'm a nine, 1368 01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: so I'm technically called the peacemaker a k. The harmonizer. 1369 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm not the peacemaker, and I'm not either I'm a two, 1370 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 1: which is the helper. So it's like it's my personalities. 1371 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Like you're always trying to like help people or figure 1372 01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: out like what you can do. Like it's just like whatever. 1373 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: But the quiz is so interesting because I feel like 1374 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 1: if you took it, you'd be like, wait, I think 1375 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,360 Speaker 1: you're a three, which will okay, take it if somebody 1376 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: texts me that the thing and I'll text you back. 1377 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: What is your bet? Okay? Up? Three? I think you're three? Performer? Yeah, 1378 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,519 Speaker 1: three is split down the middle. Three is like the 1379 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: achiever the performer like always wanting others to win and 1380 01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,920 Speaker 1: wanting to win, like they're all great things. But I 1381 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,720 Speaker 1: just I don't know. Some people are bad. Oh yeah, 1382 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: there's definitely there's flaws that are listed. Whenever you tell no, 1383 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 1: you we all no, no, no, um no. But I 1384 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 1: like my flaws are like, oh man, this is so true. 1385 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 1: I can't even deny it. Okay, well, okay, this is 1386 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: what we'll do is we'll group text this link. I'm 1387 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna say A one, and then you let us know 1388 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,960 Speaker 1: and reveal, and then to your listeners you can let 1389 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,719 Speaker 1: them know. Maybe everyone can put their bets in and see. 1390 01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: I don't y'all are sleeping and you need to get 1391 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 1: on this indiogram thing. There is called the Road to Better. 1392 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Matt Corney was talking to me about 1393 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that too. Do you know Matt Carney? Yes? I love him. 1394 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 1: Do you know him? No? But I'm a huge fan 1395 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 1: and so I geeked out one. I'm a big matto. 1396 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: I get to geek out still geek out at things 1397 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: that I like, like artsy loves yes, like people that 1398 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: you've been listening to for years and years and years. 1399 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 1: We saw him at Live on the Green, like when 1400 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 1: I first moved to Nashville. Do you remember there ago? Yeah, 1401 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,759 Speaker 1: it was like five years ago, and he was amazing. 1402 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 1: I remember the mix was perfect, the lightning was great, 1403 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,240 Speaker 1: it was just magical. Yeah, he was a good dude. 1404 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 1: We hung There are a few of these where Another 1405 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,280 Speaker 1: one was Brandon who my friends without Brandon Lancaster from 1406 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Lanko where you spend time with them and you go, oh, 1407 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: you're just a different kind of person like I. He's 1408 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: so artsy. When someone goes, yeah my bigges hits brations 1409 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: Ryan Adams, you're like, oh, you're a way yeah, and 1410 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: someone needs to watch you make sure you're okay, but 1411 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: saying oh yeah, that is awesome. All right, we're gonna 1412 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 1: wrap this up, but um, I think we learned a 1413 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: lot here today. I learned a lot today. Yeah, going 1414 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: down to do it. We're gonna do the big announcement. 1415 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: What is Bobby's in your Graham, Papa Papa, bump bump, 1416 01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: bump bump. Alright, Episode one might do anything you want 1417 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 1: to say. I'm good, You're good over there, all right, 1418 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Maddie Tay, thank you for coming, thank you for having us. 1419 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 1: We've done over an hour long? How long this mon 1420 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Thank you for letting us in your beautiful home. 1421 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We'll not talk about that, so 1422 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: we will move away. I don't care. I have a 1423 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 1: whole issue with having a swim pool like I feel 1424 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 1: terribly guilty about it, terribly guilty. We should I want 1425 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: to talk to you about that off the record, off 1426 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the record, I feel same. You're like one of my 1427 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 1: friends where you grew up with super poor and I 1428 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,559 Speaker 1: feel terribly guilty about and you should not at all. 1429 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't. That's what's my six nine. Its 1430 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 1: tangible proof that you are successful and good at what 1431 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 1: you do. You deserve what you have earned. My point 1432 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,800 Speaker 1: is I feel uncomfortable when someone says, hey, I like 1433 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 1: your shoes, because I'm like, oh no, no, don't be sorry. 1434 01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: We gotta untangle that web. We gotta get in that 1435 01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 1: soul and untangle it. I'm going to on site on 1436 01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,360 Speaker 1: for like four days. How that is. I'm gonna try 1437 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: to untangle some stuff. I'm going start speaking to Davey 1438 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: let me know. Will you please let us know? Because 1439 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I could. I'll reply back to the 1440 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,040 Speaker 1: text to read and be like, all right, are we 1441 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: just gonna group text soul searching things all the time? Therapy, 1442 01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,400 Speaker 1: Episode one Mattie and Tay, thank you guys for coming 1443 01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: in and everybody next time, by bye, Ready