1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Two teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Ridge Edge. 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of The Twat Seat 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: with Me. Twat Seat. You're going to give the little 5 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: intro to our guy. 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am so excited about this because anything real 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 3: estate I love. Ryan, Sir Haunt, is in the hot 8 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: seat today and he's got the new show Owning Manhattan, 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: which has recently been renewed for season two on Netflix. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 3: If you have not watched it, I literally binge watched it, 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: like just laid in bed and watched the whole thing 12 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: and then DMed him and said when a season two 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: coming out? 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. So he was originally on Million Dollar 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: List Dark on Bravo and his upcoming show is for Netflix. 16 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: Ryan has closed more than eight. 17 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: Billion billion bills. 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: When you got to be next to it, yeah, you ain't. 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: Well, he's a broker, so he's got his own brokerage 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: there in Manhattan, so he's doing all the things, and 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: he's he's married, he's got a daughter. I follow them 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: all on Instagram, his wife Emilia and their daughter Zenna. 23 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: I think it's Ena. I think Zena. I would get horrible, 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: all right. Well, let's bring him in. Let's let's do 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: all the things. 26 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 27 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: He's big energy, yes, big, big energy. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: Well, hello, holy Macaroni, how are you. 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: I'm good, Macarny. 30 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: Can you see me? 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: Is the light? 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 33 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: Should I change something? 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: No? 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: You look beautiful. 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: No, I'm so upset that you're so Tan and Tam 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: and I are like ghosts right now. 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: Now we're over here, like, so, are you in your 39 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: office right now? Your real estate office? 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: One hundred percent of my real estate office. That's still so. Oh, 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: I'm in my I like a command station here as 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: I go, so I will do my best to stay. 43 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: How long have you. 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Owned your your office, your brokerage firm? 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 4: I got in real estate at the end of two 46 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 4: thousand and eight. Well, I tried to be an actor 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: for two years in New York City. Then I lost 48 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 4: all my money, and so then I got my real 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: estate life so I could pay my rent. And then 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 4: I started doing that until basically twenty twenty and well, 51 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 4: twenty nineteen, I made the decision to go out on 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: my own. And then people started getting sick in China 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 4: and like threw me off for a second, and COVID 54 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 4: and all that stuff, and then we kicked off September fifteenth, 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, so it's been four years. 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: Well, congratulations. I was in New York last month and 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: actually saw your office. Oh, thank you have it, walked 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: right past it. 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: What's what's that one be? Mean? Behind you? 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: One billion? 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: But we read eight billions? So what's one billion? Is 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: that this year so far? Or what's the one billion? 63 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 4: Oh no, so the total sales since we started is 64 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: now eleven billion? That behind to remember I'm a real 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 4: estate agent, right, so like there's no salarytors. You know, 66 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: we eat what we kill like all of us do 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: you know as entrepreneurs. Yeah, and so you know, internally 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: for me, every single person I knew, it's like, why 69 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 4: would you ever go start your own company, especially when 70 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 4: you're in real estate? Just go you can go to 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: you know works, you're hat work for warm Buffett. It 72 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: costs you three thousand dollars a year to be there, 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: Like what do you what are you going to go 74 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: create overhead for and have staff and employees and burn 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: cat Like why would you ever do that? It's like 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 4: because I I could just cell real estate the rest 77 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: of my life, or maybe this is the one opportunity, 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: I'm ever going to have to take a huge swing 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: at created enterprise value. So in twenty twenty, it's like, 80 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: we're going to do this, and you guys are gonna 81 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: do this with me. We're going to build a billion 82 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: dollar company by valuation. And so I stick it behind 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: me in moments to I don't look at it that much, 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: but a moment's just like this to shame me into 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: working harder to build that. That's why it's there. 86 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: Well, I love it, Tam. Should we put some bees 87 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: behind us? 88 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I reached out to you recently because 89 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: I binge watch Owning Manhattan and I too have my 90 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: real estate license. I renew it every four years. I 91 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: haven't used it in a while because I'm pretty busy, 92 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: but I always have it because you never know, like 93 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: when you might need it. Right, So, all things real estate, 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: I love design, selling houses, all that stuff, and I 95 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: was so ready for season two after I watched season one, 96 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: I reached out to you. I'm like, where's season two? 97 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: When's it coming? So you did get picked up. You 98 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 3: got renewed for season two of Owning Manhattan. It's on Netflix. 99 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: Were you surprised? Where you expect and when do we 100 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: get to see it? 101 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: Well, one, thank you for watching Only Manhattan. It was 102 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,679 Speaker 4: such a wild experience. But you'd that entrepreneurial like spirit. 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: You know. 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: I did million dollar listing on Bravo for ten years, 105 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 4: and my wedding show, and you know my spin off, 106 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, the selling show, which was the hardest thing 107 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: I've ever done, and my renovation show. 108 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 3: And then it was like, you know what, uh so 109 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: you kind of are an actor. 110 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 4: I mean I trained to be an actor my whole life, 111 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: and then I couldn't make any money doing it. So 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: I got into real estate, and so instead of performing 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 4: on stage, I get to perform. 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: I was going to say, a theater actor or a 115 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: theater actor. 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: Who can you sing? 117 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: No? 118 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: No? 119 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 4: It was one of the reasons I couldn't make money 120 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 4: in New York. You gotta be I mean I could, 121 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: I can't. 122 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: You have to be like a triple threat. 123 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: Give us a little line of something. 124 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: See it's not there anymore, it's not now. I don't 125 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: scream now, I just yell as a CEO. I scream 126 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 4: at people. I don't sing at people. 127 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 2: Has Bravo ever. 128 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: Asked your wife to be on real Househoves of New York. 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: No, and then she would never do it. She literally 130 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: she was very heavily involved in my Bravo life. But 131 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: once we moved over to Netflix, Like if you if 132 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 4: you watch it on in Manhattan, she's on it for 133 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: a solid seventeen seconds. 134 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, there's no in your kitchen. 135 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's just no like, there's no benefit. She's 136 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 4: a lawyer, Like we have a Oh she's a lawyer. Yeah, 137 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: like she's she's not you know, there's she does it 138 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 4: for me. She's like, if it makes you happy and 139 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: it's good for you, I'll do it. What do you 140 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: want me to do? Push up Broad We're doing it. 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 4: We're working out soon. 142 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not something she's craving to do. 143 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: She's not willing to go. 144 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: No, we'll see what happened in the season two. But yeah, 146 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 4: so we did that. We did the first season, and 147 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 4: I had no idea because it's such a it's a 148 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: weird show, like it's not selling Sunset, it's not million 149 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: dollar listing, Like it's like, thank. 150 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: God is not buying Beverly Hills because that just got canceled. 151 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I was gonna ask what is the difference 152 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: for our for our listeners, what is the difference with 153 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 6: owning Manhattan versus like a million dollar listing or selling 154 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 6: Sunset or any of those other shows that we've been watching, 155 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 6: like what sets you apart? 156 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 4: Well, the only the only way I would ever go 157 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: back to TV after doing ten years of million dollar 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: listing and we started our business and everything, was if 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: I had the opportunity to really play and have fun 160 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: and do something that I hadn't seen before. So I 161 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 4: wasn't gonna do million dollar listing too, Like I didn't 162 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: want to do Saved by the Bell the College years, right, 163 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: Like you got to surprise the audience and you got 164 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: to got to get to give them something that keeps 165 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: them from looking at their phone. And so what's that 166 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: going to be? And so it's like, what if what 167 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 4: is reality TV three point zero? If one point oho 168 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: is you know, American Idol and Survivor and the Osborne's 169 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: and the Real World and that kind of stuff, and 170 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 4: if two point zero is you guys, right, you guys, 171 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: you know my little Bravo thing and you know a 172 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 4: bit more of a of an unstructured reality programming, what's 173 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: three point zho like, what does that what does that 174 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: elevated story look like? Like what happens if we have 175 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: a narrative thread with voiceover, Like what if you tell 176 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: the story all through one person's eyes, and instead of 177 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: telling it from the ground up with heels and fancy shoes, 178 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: you actually tell it from the top down right, And 179 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: we start with drone over the city, the canyons through 180 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 4: and it feels like, instead of watching a reality show 181 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: where stuff happens, let's talk about it. Then another party 182 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 4: and then stuff happens and let's talk about it. What 183 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: if this plays out like an eight hour documentary. And 184 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 4: so the way I pitched it to Netflix was I 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: started my own company completely by myself. We have our 186 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: three year party coming up. The show should be capturing 187 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: those moments leading up to our three year anniversary and 188 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: what happens and real estate will be that backdrop, but 189 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: the business will be the backdrop, and it'll cater to 190 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: a very different audience than watch his selling sons selling 191 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 4: Sunset's awesome and it crushes it. It's just like it's 192 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: it's a beast in and of itself, as did Million 193 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 4: doar Listing and other shows. And I think there's an 194 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: audience for everybody. But I was super super nervous because 195 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 4: the show is very different, like it's very it doesn't 196 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 4: play like a normal reality TV show that you'd expect, 197 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: and so I thought the audience was either going to 198 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: totally hate it or there were going to be some 199 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: super fans, and thankful for us, it. 200 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: Went No, it's great. The one moment, the one moment 201 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: that stands out for me. There's a couple of them, 202 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: but the one the guy can't remember his name with 203 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: all the tattoos. You fired him, Yeah, you fired Jonathan. 204 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: I liked him, Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice, he was edgy. 205 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: Didn't he have an accent like Danish? 206 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, he's a model like all those But hold on, 207 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: didn't you fire him? But then you begged him to 208 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: come back? Can you? 209 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 4: Oh that's what he said? 210 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: He said that, Oh shocker? 211 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: So why did he have. 212 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: A bunch of to control his own narrative as best 213 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: he can? Which I think is which I think is fine. 214 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: You're all dude, you were fired on National TV? 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's listen, it's them. 216 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 217 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: I have to you have to protect the house, like 218 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: you have to protect the brands like this isn't. This 219 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: isn't just me running around as a real tur anymore. 220 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 4: Like this is showcasing the entire growth of our company, 221 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: and my goal is to build a multi billion dollar 222 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: company now through Netflix and season after season, you're going 223 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: to watch the business grow while also watching properties and 224 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 4: fights and drama and all the stuff that you know 225 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: can appeal to to everybody who's interested. And uh, it's 226 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: it's kind of my my experiment that we're doing well. 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: You were definitely a class act when throughout the entire season, 228 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: Like there's the other shows like Selling Sunset and we 229 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: have the Oppenheimer's or whatever they're called, which they're so douchey. 230 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: But no, but that's what I was going to ask 231 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: him before we get into you being a class act, 232 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: which I can't con firm or deny at the with 233 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: one season. I need gonna need more, Okay, Like I 234 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: I think first season edit, you look pretty good. No, 235 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: everybody does. 236 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: Now that I've been watching this guy for ten years, 237 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: I know I've seen it, like. 238 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: I know on your own show. But speaking of all 239 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 2: the other you know, guys and girls that are on 240 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 2: these these shows, has there anyone that you've met that 241 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: you're just like, this is a total douchebag. 242 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: No, I mean yes, but unfortunately I'm too classy to say. 243 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, this podcast, this is the twat seat. Okay, 244 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 7: you don't have to say douchey. Who have you had 245 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 7: the hardest time with real estate agent? Wise on from 246 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 7: one of these other shows? 247 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: Oh? I mean we're happy to say one of the 248 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: Oppenheimer brothers. 249 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: No, I've met them. I think they're all great. 250 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: Like I don't. 251 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 4: I you know, I don't talk poorly about anybody. It's 252 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: never served me, like, there's no there's no benefit of 253 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: my life to do it. 254 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: To be honest, Jason is that nice to us. But 255 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 3: I have talked to some of his agents in Orange 256 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: County and they say, he's great. He's a really nice guy. 257 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah he can't, you know, he's They built something very cool, 258 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 4: very special, very different, like we were on very very 259 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 4: different businesses. They were great. I mean, I think I 260 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 4: haven't had like really terrible experiences with people, and if 261 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: I do, honestly, I black it out from my memory 262 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 4: because it's not worth taking up brain space. I have 263 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: no interest in thinking about or remembering haters like that's 264 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: it's okay, right, they get to be there. 265 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 3: That's how successful people think. 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they get to create the fire that fuels 267 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: me as I move on like no problem, like I 268 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: don't remember like the losses, like it's just not good 269 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: for the evolution of my mental health. 270 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 2: You know, how do you how do you feel with 271 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: when you know? I think we just read that Josh 272 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: Flagg has expanded his business to New York City. Does 273 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: that stuff even cross your mind? 274 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: Or like? 275 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 2: Whatever? The more of the merrier. 276 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: I think that people can say and do whatever they want. 277 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: I think the proof is in the putting success. We 278 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: get success. I think people can do the best they 279 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: possibly can everywhere. There's a big, big pie out there, 280 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: and it's just about expanding that pie and presenting the 281 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 4: greatest value to your customers, right and on the show, 282 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: like our customer base is also the viewers is also 283 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: you know, creating entertaining television while also showcasing a very 284 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: real business, like they're The rule that I also had 285 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 4: was other shows can be property porn shows. Our show 286 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 4: is a deal show. So if you're interested in seeing 287 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: real estate and people, but you want to see deals, 288 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: like you tune into ours. There will be deals NonStop, 289 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: and we start shooting season two next Wednesday. 290 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: Okay, speaking of deals, Speaking of deals, I gotta cut 291 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: in here. Are we going to see the fourteen million 292 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: dollar deal of Andy Cohen's apartment for sale on your show? 293 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: I asked him and he was like, oh, the Bravo contracts. 294 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't know that was his. 295 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 3: Are you serious? Little Andy Kelling's shy to show his house. 296 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: I mean it's all different, not. 297 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 4: Shy to show it. I've never been attached to more 298 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 4: press because of a seller in my whole life. 299 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: Oh, so the deal with Andy Kohne, I think he 300 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 3: told me this personally that he had bought another place 301 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: and was renovating it. So he already has his other 302 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: place he has now obviously moved into it. Did you 303 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: help him buy that house as well an apartment? 304 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: No? No, no, he went. I think he bought it 305 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: by himself a while ago, and he's been renovating. 306 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: It like a year ago, right, yeah, yeah. 307 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: Later. And from being somebody who's not from New York, 308 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: you know, I've been there a bunch, but I'm not 309 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: from New York. I don't really know the areas. We 310 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: watched a bunch on Royal Housewives of New York. And 311 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: then we see in the trailer this coming up season 312 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: where I think there's a group of people where they're 313 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: kind of arguing, like are you from Staten Island? Are 314 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: you from the here? Are you from this there? These 315 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: are the upcoming places, like in your mind, you know, 316 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: if you're a single or if you are a family person, 317 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: the two best places to buy in New York at 318 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: this current time in. 319 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 4: New York City, I mean Staten Island is you know, 320 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: as a borough. I mean I would think about, depending 321 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: on really what you want. Right I live in Brooklyn. 322 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: I have a townhouse in Brooklyn. It's a great place 323 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 4: to be as a family. It can definitely be a 324 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: little tough with traffic if you're trying to get into 325 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: Manhattan all the time. Traffic is insane, as it is 326 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: everywhere these days. But I think Brooklyn, I think parts 327 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: of Long Island are really great as well, and so 328 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: many people have moved out there. We also just open 329 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 4: to New Jersey and there's just like you can just 330 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 4: get so much more for. 331 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: Your money, you know, Oh for sure. 332 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: Parts of New Jersey, like right over the George Washington Bridge, 333 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: like you can have a thirty minute commute every day, 334 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: which is can be shorter than what I have as 335 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: a commune in Brooklyn. But you get to live in 336 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: New Jersey and have a pool and driveway, and your 337 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: kids can have a yard, and it just depends on 338 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 4: personal personal prefit. 339 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: It blows my mind the amount of money that's in Manhattan. 340 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 3: I love looking at houses, so I'm always on MLS 341 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: reeltor dot Calm or whatever, and I always like to 342 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: look at New York. And not only are the price 343 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 3: is high, but once you get into the millions, then 344 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: you have an hoa that's sometimes up to like seventeen 345 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: thousand dollars a month just for your ho and I'm 346 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: sure it goes way on up from there, taxes, taxes, not. 347 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: It just blows my mind that people like this is 348 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: just Manhattan. Yeah, there's that much money in that town. 349 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: But we'll speak of money. 350 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: We see that you work a lot with Bethany Frankel. 351 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: I did. I worked with her on a listing and 352 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 4: then she fired me. 353 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, so, did you do something wrong? 354 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 2: What happened? 355 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 4: No, I just it didn't. It didn't. It didn't sell 356 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: in the in the time that we allotted for the 357 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 4: exclusive agreements. We were a little off season, and it 358 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 4: was it was tricky. 359 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: You know. 360 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 4: She had a big, beautiful loft that she eventually sold later. 361 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: What she was asking when you had it for sale. 362 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 4: I think it was I think it was a little 363 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: bit less. I can't remember. This was a little while ago, 364 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: but she renovated it really. You know, it was a huge, 365 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 4: huge space that she basically turned into an incredible. 366 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: It was beautiful. 367 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: I saw the pictures of. 368 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 4: One bedroom with like a small secondary bedroom. That just 369 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: takes the right type of buyer. You know, most people 370 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: looking for four thousand square feet are looking for more 371 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 4: than one huge, incredible bedroom with like the greatest single 372 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: closet and the greatest you know, makeup closet. Ever, like, 373 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 4: that's a specific so it. 374 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: Didn't Yeah, a specific buyer. It doesn't appeal to a 375 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: lot of people. But Okay, you know the house that 376 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 3: on first season, the one with a big staircase, the 377 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: very expensive one. Yeah, I saw that. That one's still listed. 378 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 4: Still, yeah, for one hundred and ninety five million dollars. 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 380 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: What how long do you think it's going to be 381 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: on the market before somebody buys it? 382 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: Well, well, we've we've had offers on that, and this 383 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 4: is not about lack of buyers. It's about just the 384 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 4: right buyer and the right price. You know, it's such 385 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: a one of one. It's just about that right purchaser 386 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: kind of falling a lot with it and paying the 387 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 4: right price. So I think we're think we're getting closer. 388 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: And just because I am clearly very much out of 389 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 2: this price bracket to be able to buy one hundred 390 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: and ninety five million dollar home, what do you think 391 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: your yearly income needs to be? 392 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 6: Are? 393 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 3: Like? 394 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: How much money do you have to have to be 395 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: able to actually sustain a place like that? 396 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 4: So without a mortgage, the carry cost you took what 397 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 4: Hoap's plus real estate taxes are just over ninety thousand 398 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 4: dollars per month on that place, right, So you're spending 399 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: about a million dollars a year to carry the apartment. 400 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: So it's the same who owns a three hundred million 401 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: dollar yacht, right who owns a two hundred million dollar picasso? 402 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: Is that that same it's that same clients out so 403 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 4: they're it's the person is a billionaire, right, of which 404 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: most of them are multi billionaires. And then it's in 405 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: terms of annual income. I mean some years they probably 406 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: make no money. Some years they'll make fifty billion dollars, right, right, 407 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: Typically how it works just depending on the kind of 408 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: asset sales. 409 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: Would you say, would you say that most of your 410 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: client tell is old money or new money. 411 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: It's a mixture. It's a mixture, and sometimes it's hard 412 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 4: to tell these. 413 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 3: Days that does TikTokers. 414 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: Now, well, it's not just the TikTokers, you know, it's nuts. 415 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: Like for the first half of twenty twenty four, gen 416 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 4: Z surpassed millennials and buying homes in the United States, 417 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: but when you look at how they bought it, it's 418 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: like seventy percent of the gen Z purchases were financed 419 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: by baby boomers. So moms and dads who've made money 420 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 4: since nineteen eighty two to today, their kids aren't making 421 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yet rent is so high, 422 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 4: interest rate towards six percent. It's expensive, and so the 423 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 4: parents say, Okay, I'm gonna put you through school. I'm 424 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: also going to buy you your first home, and that's 425 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 4: become the new American dream, like grow up in the 426 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: right family. My parents were also buying me my real estate. 427 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I'm gonna have to buy my kids' houses. 428 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: Like when my son just got out of college and 429 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: he's like, well, I can't even find a job, yeah, 430 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 3: you know, and he's like, how am I ever going 431 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 3: to get ahead? Like, how am I ever going to 432 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 3: buy a house? 433 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 5: And it's just crazy. 434 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: Now the real estate market in California is probably very 435 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: different than New York. I know that the interest rates 436 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: are high. I don't even know is it a good 437 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 3: time to buy, is a good time to sell? Like 438 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: where are we sitting right now? And what do you 439 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: what do you think is going to happen? 440 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: Well, interest rates are lower now that they've been in 441 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 4: like fifteen months that I don't know whether you're gonna 442 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 4: air this part. 443 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: What are they now? 444 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: Like they're just under they're just under six percent. Yeah, 445 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 4: you can basically get it down to just under six 446 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 4: which is a lot more than two and a half, 447 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: which is where most of us were buying for the 448 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: last time. 449 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: That's what mine is right now. 450 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. So you have ninety percent of you know, 451 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: people that have loans in the United States have loans 452 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: under five percent, and so until those loans start to 453 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 4: come down, and so you can refinance at least too 454 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 4: into the fours. Most people like you, like me, like 455 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 4: most of us, are going to say, man, it's got 456 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: to really be worth it to sell, because now my 457 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: mortgage is in debt. Now it's a financial asset. So 458 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: now people are looking at their mortgages as financial assets 459 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: instead of putting them like the L of the P 460 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: and L, which is just which is what happens in 461 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: high end straight environments. And so you're right though, it 462 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: is tougher for younger generations. I think you're going to 463 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 4: seal up. People continue to rent, right there's there's great 464 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: companies that incentivize right now, or people continuing to either 465 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 4: live at home or live with roommates and create income 466 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: in different ways. Like at the same time, it's like, 467 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna have a hard time finding it job. 468 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 4: It's also never been easier to make money. Make money 469 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 4: your phone, you know. Yeah, that thing that we all 470 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: asked for, which was I don't want to have a 471 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: nine to five like grandpa, and I want to do 472 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 4: this and do that. The world said, okay, here you go, 473 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: go make money on your phone. It's like, but wait, when, 474 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 4: how where? How many different ways? How many incrimbship? 475 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: What do I sell? 476 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 477 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: I have to think I to get close. 478 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 3: It's the discipline people that can make a killing off 479 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: their phone. It's the other ones that a lot of 480 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: people don't have that mindset and then being like an 481 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: entrepreneur like that, they like they need. 482 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: To be told what to do, they need they want 483 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: the boss. But speaking of discipline, we you're notorious for 484 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: having a very intense schedule. You wake up at four 485 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 2: eighteen am. Do you have OCD as well? I have it? 486 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: So the four eighteen time kind of. 487 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: That we're all three of us are up at four eighteen. 488 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I actually would prefer four to seventeen. 489 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: But you have interminute fasting. How do you maintain that discipline? 490 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: But then how do you also balance and unplug and 491 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: make time for your family and are actually present because 492 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: I think a lot of us who my husband's an 493 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: entrepreneur as well, he has multiple businesses, he works or 494 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: works and something, and the same with me. So it's 495 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: finding that time where you're actually off your phone, you're 496 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: connecting with your partner, you're you know, what would you 497 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: say your keys to success on those things are I. 498 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 4: Try to what have I just turned forty, and it's 499 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: it's been an eye opening summer for me coming out 500 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 4: because I actually I've used it to kind of like 501 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: smack myself around and answer some of these like exact questions. 502 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 4: And what I realized was I spent my entire thirties 503 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 4: waking up every day to be important instead of waking 504 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 4: up every day to be happy. And I thought being 505 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: important would make me happy. And so I have three 506 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: companies that do all this and it's fine. But I 507 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: was convincing myself that that classic line of like entrepreneurship 508 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: is when you sacrifice what others won't so that you 509 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 4: can have what others can't, you know, But that becomes 510 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 4: a drug and you become addicted to it, and then 511 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: next thing, you know, like life goes by you and 512 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 4: none of us are getting out of here alive. We're 513 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 4: all on a spice rock, right, We're all just floating 514 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: through nothingness. And then nothingness is just getting bigger? So 515 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 4: what are we even doing? And that like really hit 516 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 4: me this summer, combined with the fact that like my 517 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: key to success for the first let's say fifteen years 518 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: of my career were like the power of yes. I'll 519 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 4: say yes to every opportunity as long as it's not 520 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 4: going to get me killed or arrested, and see what happens. 521 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna yes, I'll go your event. Yes I'm gonna 522 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 4: do this. Yes I'm going to go do that. And 523 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 4: I just what that ends up doing, though, is you 524 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 4: can say yes to opportunity, but then you say no 525 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: to energy, and then you have to like manufacture energy 526 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 4: and you operate kind of like a zombie. And so 527 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: I've started doing a much better job at saying it's 528 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 4: saying no and using the power of no, but while 529 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 4: still being empathetic and still being humble, and discipline is 530 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: one hundred percent my savior, Like it's the Secret Songs, 531 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 4: if you like, if you're gonna lie to yourself, then 532 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: then I don't know how to help you. But if 533 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: at least you can be honest with yourself and control 534 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: the one thing in the world you can control, which 535 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: is your mind, your body, right, your soul, the decisions 536 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: you make, the decisions you don't make, than anything, honestly 537 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 4: as possible. My success is because because I'm relentless, because 538 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: I showed up the most, you know, and just kept calling. 539 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 4: I talk to people all the time. They're like, well 540 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 4: it's not working for me, Like, well, how long you've 541 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 4: been trying. It's been a year. Great, keep going. 542 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: What do you? 543 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 2: What do you and what do you do? Because you know, 544 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: I do think there's a lot of this like toxic 545 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: positivity out there where every day we're supposed to wake 546 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: up and feel a certain way, and you know what, 547 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: no matter what you do for your mind body, and 548 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: so some days you wake up and you just feel, yeah, 549 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: not your best when you're having those days, what do 550 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: you do? Like for me, it's being vulnerable and just 551 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 2: kind of sure sharing it. But what is your kind 552 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: of method behind that? 553 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 554 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't do that. 555 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: I think I should be more vulnerable. I think I 556 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 4: try to own it as much as I can. I 557 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 4: sold there's a book called The Subtle Art of Not 558 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 4: Giving Up by market my husband, right, so Mark man 559 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: I know Mark Manson's friend. I sold his apartment and 560 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: try back up. And I remember going through that and 561 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: even talking to him like there is an incredible life 562 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 4: hack to just not giving that much of a to 563 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 4: so many things, and like, what's the worst thing that's 564 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: going to happen. I'm going to read that, especially as 565 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: you get older and you look back at your life 566 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 4: and you're like, all right, twenty twenty two, twenty twenty two, okay, quick, 567 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 4: go what's the worst day of twenty twenty two? Now? 568 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 4: Barring personal tragedy and personal loss, which are obviously core 569 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: memories evolutionarily, like, we don't. We're not programmed to remember 570 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 4: the bad days are the rough ones, right, We are 571 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: programmed to remember the good days, right. That's what keeps 572 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 4: us alive, That's what keeps us appropriating moving forward. And 573 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 4: so I think when I feel terrible, I try to 574 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 4: just own it. 575 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: You know. 576 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 4: I'll be late that day, I'll sleep that day, I'll 577 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: just watch a TV that day. I'll do what's called 578 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: a Ryan day, which is I will do nothing, yeah, 579 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: you know, and I'll just like ved out and then 580 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 4: I get over it, you know. I think I think 581 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: it can be detrimental when you try to like play 582 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 4: through injury. I got to own the injury, and you 583 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: gotta heal it and whatever way you can. And maybe 584 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: it's a friend or a family member, or it's a 585 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 4: personal trip or whatever it is, retail therapy, whatever works 586 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 4: for you do that and for me, like the discipline 587 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 4: of the day is what keeps me sane. And no 588 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: matter what happens today, and it could be the worst 589 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 4: to ever, it could be a great day, it could 590 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: be a shitty day, no matter what. Like I can 591 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 4: control my hours, my minutes, and my time, I know 592 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: they will wake up. I'm gonna work out so that 593 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: I don't like balloon and die. You know, I'm going 594 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 4: to take care of myself. I'm gonna focus on what 595 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 4: I got to do and just go build and try 596 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 4: to do a little bit better today than I did yesterday. 597 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 4: And that's that's it. You take it one day at 598 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: a time, and otherwise you get stuck in the anxiety 599 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: of tomorrow that's caused by the worry of yesterday, and 600 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: you just get in this never ending cycle while the 601 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: life passes you by. And that's not fun. 602 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 603 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: I love seeing your to switch it off a little bit. 604 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 3: But I talked about your family a little bit. I 605 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: remember seeing you got married on TV. Right, I saw 606 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: like a honeymoon. You were on a honeymoon. I saw that, 607 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: and then your daughter, your daughter. How old is your 608 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 3: daughter now? 609 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: Five? 610 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: Five? Are you going to have more kids? Are you 611 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: done there? The shop is closed. 612 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 4: We talk, We talk about it. It's it's hard, like 613 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: we live in New York, like we yeah, no matter what, 614 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: against everything. I literally just said, we both work all 615 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: the time. It's hard, like it's just you. Yeah, like 616 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: I think we would love to. We talk about it 617 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 4: all the time, and then time goes and time goes by, 618 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: and we travel and travel for work and we're all 619 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 4: over the place, and it's just been so awesome. Like 620 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, we've never had kids before, and you know, 621 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: I have three sisters and two brothers and family. Yeah, 622 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: And I like, I love my parents, they're great. But 623 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: I'm able to now spend more time with my one 624 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 4: child than my parents never were able to spend with 625 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 4: me at that age. And maybe that means Za her 626 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: name is Zena. Maybe she'll grow up too coddled and 627 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: babied and whatever. She'll just live with me until it'll 628 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: just be fine. 629 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't care. 630 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 4: I'll take care of her. 631 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 3: That's what I say about my daughter. 632 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: Well, we we appreciate you so much for coming on. 633 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Is there anything that you want to plug or say 634 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 2: before we end up closing out for today or tease 635 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: about this upcoming season or anything like that. 636 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: Well, the season that we're about to start shooting, I can, like, 637 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: my life is already all over the place. And so 638 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 4: if you like the first season, I can I can 639 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: guarantee you the second season. We'll keep you on your seat. 640 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: It is. It is unlike anything that we've ever shot, 641 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 4: and the deals we're doing right now. The property is 642 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: the ages, the that like it's just I think I 643 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 4: hear screaming outside my door right now. I'm hiding in 644 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 4: my office to do this podcast. Like I have something 645 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: really important. Guys, is super serious CEO work I got 646 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 4: to do right now. 647 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: Please leave me alone. I have to be on the 648 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 2: twat seat. 649 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm on the twat seat. 650 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: Did not say that otherwise, HR has like it's like 651 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: a real always employees. I gotta be careful with how 652 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: I talk. 653 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know you're looking. 654 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: You're just starting to film. Do you know projected air 655 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: date yet? 656 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, But I think this season like we 657 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 4: know what we're making now. The first season of Voting 658 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: Manhattan and the first season of I think of any 659 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: show you know, it took us like two years to 660 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 4: put together, planning designing, you know, Netflix. I had a 661 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: lot of thoughts and ideas and what it looks like, 662 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 4: what it feels like, you know, is it going to 663 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: be can music. We ended up having an orchestra, which 664 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: I'd never worked with before. It was just like it 665 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 4: was super super cool. And then I found out as 666 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 4: like the little side side quest story. For two seconds, 667 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: I found out set the second season was being Gridlet. 668 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: They called me while I was on set playing the 669 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 4: role of Ryan Surhant, real estate mogul on the upcoming 670 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 4: season of and just like that. And so I'm like, 671 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: I'm on the Sex and the City set with Michael 672 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: Patrick King, the creator and directed, really exciting talking talking 673 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 4: giving me notes on in this scene how to be 674 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 4: Ryan Surhant, And I'm like, dude, I wait, do I 675 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: not know how. 676 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,959 Speaker 2: To be myself? 677 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,959 Speaker 4: How do I hold myself? 678 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: That is so, how do I walk? 679 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 4: And then I got a call and they were like 680 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 4: second season screen that we got to move real quick, 681 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 4: and I was like, hold on one second, I'm playing myself, 682 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: playing myself. 683 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: That is very cool. I can't wait for season two. 684 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 6: Guys. 685 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: If you haven't watched Owning Manhattan, it is so good. 686 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 3: You will be sucked into it and watch the entire 687 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 3: season in one sitting. 688 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: I promise well, we love it. Thank you so much 689 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: for joining us on the tat seat, which we are 690 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: allowed to say with our HR and we can't wait 691 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: for season two. 692 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: Thanks Ryan Yah