WEBVTT - Kate McKinnon, and Your Questions for Hillary 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.680 You and Me Both is a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.639 I'm Hillary Clinton and this is You and Me Both. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:12.200 On this week's episode, I get to do one of 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:16.919 my favorite things, answering questions sent in by our listeners. 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.639 We've heard from so many of you. From Anita down 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.320 in Florida, Hello, I watched the whole podcast. I now 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:30.400 know what a podcast is. To Kyle out in California. Hey, Hilary, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:34.200 it's Kyle Bockfunk supporter. Maybe you'll run again one day, 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:36.160 maybe not. Don't blame you if you want the rift. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.240 We got emails from people across the United States and beyond, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:47.480 from Australia to Germany Romania, with questions on everything from 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:51.080 my time in the Senate to my favorite desserts to 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.080 the quality of the sheets and pillows in the White House. Now, 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.640 as promised, I'm answering your questions with the help of 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.200 a very special guest. It took some doing because we 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:07.160 both have really busy schedules, but I'm so excited today 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:11.760 to have joining me Saturday Night Lives One and Only 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:19.320 Kate McKinnon. Kate joined the SNL cast back in and 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:23.760 since then she's become an Emmy award winning audience favorite 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.360 with all of her quirky characters and of course, her 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:34.600 incredible impersonations everybody from Ellen Degenerous to Jeff Sessions, from 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:40.440 Lindsay Graham to Elizabeth Warren, Angela Merkle, Rudy Giuliani and 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.280 yes me and You've also seen Kate on the big screen, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:51.000 including in the all women remake of Ghostbusters. She's currently 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:56.080 starring in Joe Versus Carol, a drama series from Peacock 0:01:56.240 --> 0:02:04.400 based on the Netflix true crime commentary series Tiger King. I. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.640 Oh my gosh, Oh my goodness. I am thrilled to 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.040 see you. I'm so happy you're doing this. I'm so happy. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.040 I'm scared of podcasts, but I like yours and this 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.960 one it's nice. So we're just gonna be really easy. Okay, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:27.280 before we start, where's your cat? Um there? Say hello 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:32.000 to the secretary Nini, Say hello, how old is that 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:36.800 little creature? He is thirteen and a teenager? You know 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.720 he's getting tattoos and he's drinking. You gotta watch those 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.799 teenagers all the time. Yeah, I mean, look at the 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:47.320 wonderful life you have. What is the what is wrong 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:52.640 with you? Look at who your mother is. You should 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.680 be so proud. I'm so fun. You don't even know 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.320 how fun I am. It is so great to see 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.480 you again, and I just want to dive right in 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.760 to talk with truly one of my my favorite people. So, Kate, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.360 you and I have a lot in common. You've played me, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.520 so I know we do. But we also just got 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:18.520 over COVID and you did. Yes, Oh gosh, you're dodging 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.600 it for you know, two years. Thankfully. I came down 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:24.080 with a really mild case, but I was so tired. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.679 I was so tired. That was like the only thing 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:31.520 that I experienced. Wow, yeah, that's good. Good for you, 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.760 But you're okay. I got a bad what felt like 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.320 a flu, and now I feel like I am a 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.680 crumpled piece of paper drifting on the wind um. I 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:49.800 have no agency, I have no vitals. You know, I'm 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.040 you need a vacation, my friend. I don't well, I 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.200 don't know if that would do it. I feel, I feel, 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.840 you know, I think it's more the crumbling of the 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.720 host World War two order that's making my brain feel 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.320 a little disorganized. But I think that's actually what happened 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.720 to me. I think my immune system had been great 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.920 until Ukraine and then it just crumpled um And so 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:15.040 here we are. But we're fighting our way back and 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.640 that's to be I guess appreciated. And you have a 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.200 new show out, Joe. First is Carol. Now, honestly, you 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.160 played Carol Baskin and I know you love your cat. 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.440 But how was it like loving those big cats? I mean, 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.120 what was that like? Well, she had made a public 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:39.280 request to not utilize big cats during the production, which um, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.359 I found very important because her whole thing is we 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.040 should be interacting with these animals at all, they should 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.880 only be in the wild. So I was happy that 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.640 we were able to c g I all the cats. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.360 So when there was a cat on screen, it was 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.520 actually just a very emotive great Dane. Some of the 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.839 best actors in the world I found are great Danes. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:08.839 Oh my god, the pathos on those big great Dane faces. Yes, well, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:13.200 you know you have been really just such an incredible 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:18.599 inspiration and I don't know, just a great spirit Kate 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:22.920 and me, I don't know about that. Well, I mean 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:25.839 just I'm just talking as a fan, so you know 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.000 you can dismiss it and discount it. But when did 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:34.680 you first get interested in comedy and sketch comedy. Okay, So, 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:40.280 as you may or cannot tell, I was an odd child, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.960 very very deeply shy and quiet. I don't know if 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:50.279 you can relate, maybe not, but I was extraordinarily quiet, 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.640 and people were always wondering what's in there? What is 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:58.000 she thinking? And I felt always just too scared to 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.640 speak in my own voice, and so I started to 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:07.240 appropriate the voices of others and speak in British accents 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.360 and speak as little weird characters and quote lines from 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.359 movies and stuff. And I felt it so much easier 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:19.320 to get any volume in my voice at all if 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:24.800 I was doing a voice in quotes and that, you know, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.800 lad my kindergarten teacher to call my mother and then say, 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:33.279 we don't know if she's understanding the difference between fiction 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:39.200 and reality because I was so often speaking in film quotes. Anyway, 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.200 you know, I'm saying too much here, But the point 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.000 is it became a like, I mean, it's a coping 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:48.880 mechanism clearly for social anxiety. And then and then I 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.520 just like spun it into a career magically, so that's great. Yeah, 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.800 I mean I really admire that. And I read that 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:58.039 your father first introduced you to Saturday Night Live when 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.520 you were what My mother and my father both were 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.279 big SNL fans, and they would walk around the house 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:09.039 quoting Mr Bill and tunes as the Driving Cat and 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.840 the land Shark, and I thought these were just American 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.080 idioms to go, Oh, no, you know all these quotes. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.120 They were My parents both very, very funny, So it 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.680 sort of was just like a household currency. Yeah, well, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.640 your sister didn't, isn't your sister. My sister is a 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.960 comedian and we've done a bunch of projects together and 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.240 that's just the greatest thing in the world because we 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:42.480 still share a sense of humor and not everyone. But 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.000 but at what point did you think I could make 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:48.600 a living at this, I could be a professional actor comedian. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.960 Only after booking my first job. I had never considered 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.160 it as a way of life. I thought, I'm too 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:01.480 much of a capricorn um. I don't that astrology is 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:06.600 real except that it's always correct and I so I'm very, 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:10.560 very deeply practical. And so I booked my first job, 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.600 which was on a show called The Big a Sketch Show, 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.880 and then I thought, well, okay, I'll give it a 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.320 whirl because I've already booked this job, but it's not 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.440 going to work out. And then for a long time 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:25.080 it didn't. And then I thought, I'll go to farm 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:30.320 school and I'll you know, that's fine, and then I 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:34.320 was hired at Saturday Night Live and so I continued then, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.920 but it's always sort of touch and go. Yeah, and 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.520 did you try out for SNL? I mean I hear 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:47.880 about these really infamous tryouts that conducted sounds terrifying. It 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.880 is it's a tribunal um in the dark. Well, you 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:59.240 know you've testified it congressionally. Yeah, you're fine. I think 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.480 you've passed some fine guys. But you got the gig. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.640 I didn't, so you know, that's only a big difference, 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.120 Thank Gossie. Yeah, I mean I watched the hearings I've 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.080 watched you was that sort of like an SNL audition? 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.360 Is that is? That was at the comparable experience? Now? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.280 Years seemed he seemed a hourse. So what what year 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.400 was it that you started on SNL. It was two 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:26.720 thousand eleven and I had moved to Los Angeles to 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.120 do a showcase and I thought, Okay, this is my 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.480 last ditch effort as a comedian, I'll do this showcase 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:35.680 and then I'll come home and I'll fake your something 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.200 else out and I'll be fine. And but I always knew, 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.480 you know, Saturday Night Live is is so important to 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:45.960 me as a comedian because it's really the only place 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:48.840 that people are doing character comedy, the kind of comedy 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.320 I love. But also as an American, it's like it's 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:55.200 like our collective way of processing so many things. And 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.200 for so many years I got my news from Saturday 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.720 Night Live, so it always meant everything to me. And 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.440 in the back of my mind, I was like, well, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:07.400 I'll never get on the show, but I it is 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.920 my dream and I should at least try my darkness 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:15.720 to at least audition. And then I got that chance 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:22.440 after many years of doing comedy and a basement, And yeah, 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:26.000 it was scary, but I I had prepared as much 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.840 as I possibly could prepare for something I usually wing stuff. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.640 But I was like, if I don't, I need to 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.680 do everything I possibly can or I won't be able 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.679 to live with myself afterwards. Did you do impersonations when 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.720 you tried out or did the impersonating? You know, everybody 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.240 literally from Justin Bieber to jet sessions to me, which 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.560 we'll get to in a minute. Um, did you do 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:53.280 impersonations before SNL or was that something that happened while 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.800 you were there? I did, Um, I learned a lot 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.160 more about what goes into an impression inside of the 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.400 pressure cooker of SNL. But I had always been doing impressions. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:09.959 I just think that a person's voice is, for me 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:14.360 somehow the key to their inner struggles. UM. I feel 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:18.240 that like I can listen to someone's voice and understand 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.520 what they want and what's getting in the way, which is, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.439 to me, the foundational blocks of any character, even a 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:31.640 sketch character. Um. And other people understand it through physicality 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:36.200 or through what they say or their hair or whatever. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.160 For me, it's just my way in is always someone's voice. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:45.160 And so I've always loved impressions because you can just 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.160 listen to someone and I feel like I understand them, 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.480 or I have a theory about them. And what is 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.600 a character really but a theory about how best to live, 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:58.000 or a theory about what happens if you live a 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.960 certain way. No, I like that. I mean it is 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.840 interesting how you get into a different character, or how 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.480 you even try to understand somebody if you're not an 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.440 actor like you are, and when you start thinking about 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.840 how you're going to try to portray somebody, do you 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.800 listen to their voice? Is that how you try to 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.160 capture it? Yes? I listened to hours and hours of 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.840 YouTube footage. I don't know how anyone produced a sketch 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.640 show before YouTube. I mean I think they were in 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:30.840 there with VCRs copying news reports. That must have been impossible, 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:36.280 But I yes, I listened to hours and I try 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:40.680 to come up with again just what what they want 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.800 and what's blocking them, which are usually two disparate elements 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:49.040 of their persona. That tension and that juxtaposition is what 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.360 makes a character. For instance, I've played Angela Merkel and 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.400 I thought, well, how am I gonna what am I 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.680 going to latch onto about this? I don't speak German, 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:02.720 I wish I did. Um what a gorgeous language with 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:06.600 its many many noun cases, but I wanted to capture 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:10.920 something about her, and to me, what was the juxtaposition 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.680 there that was interesting was that she's this like staunch 0:13:14.160 --> 0:13:18.280 German politician and yet there's almost a I saw a 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:23.800 glimmer of like a girlish longing and insecurity and sweetness 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.920 underneath that, and that tension is what I just sort 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.040 of like me and the writer who wrote it just 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.160 sort of like spun up into a sketch. That's so 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.000 interesting because I know her and you did. That's a 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:41.800 very good capture. Oh yeah, and because when I have 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:46.800 spent personal time, private time with her, she's funny, she's unguarded, 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:53.000 she is a good storyteller, she is very effusive, and 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.000 then you know she does have to put on the 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.960 I'm the leader of my country, uh look and go forward. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.200 But yeah, you really captured that. That's great. But you 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.760 have to be almost an acute psychologist to do what 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.400 you do, because you've got to find something to hold 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.440 on too. I mean you do somebody like Jeff Sessions. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.840 Oh my gosh, I mean what do you hang on too? 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.800 I mean, what is there that you're going to be 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:20.200 able to find relatable, let alone you know, humorous. It 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:24.800 really requires some some in depth thinking, right for I mean, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:28.840 for that one, I just I disagreed so vehemently with 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:34.040 everything that he was doing and and thought. But to me, 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:40.720 he seemed like a perfectly jovial person, like a filled 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:47.200 with effervescent um puckish joy, and I thought, well, that's 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.920 an interesting tension. I hate what this guy's doing, and 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:55.040 yet I think I would like him if if I 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:58.440 didn't know his politics. He's a sort of there's something 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.280 impat and boy like about him that I that I 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.120 responded to, and that to me was an interesting tension. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.760 Are there people on your list that you want to 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.680 impersonate at any time in the future somebody that pops 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:17.200 into mind. Politicians are definitely my favorite, because there's always 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.080 and maybe you can attest to this, there's always layers 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:26.600 built in because someone's the persona that any politician presents. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:32.160 I'm guessing, you know, correct, is not what is underneath. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:37.280 Um is something that's constructed, and there's always comedic tension 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.680 to be mined there between someone's persona and their private life. Well, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.880 obviously I saw that when you portrayed me Um, you know, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.160 I thought it was pretty brilliant, and I loved doing 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.720 that scene with you where I was val the bartender. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.880 That was the best known of my life. I had 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.160 so much fun. I was just so taken by the 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:00.720 whole experience because even though I on on s and 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.920 now I think once before, but it was some years 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.440 prior being there that time, and having you know, a 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.880 whole scene where you and I were doing it together, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.280 and then going up to Lauren's office while you talked 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.200 about how it was going and what the you know, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.840 changes were needed. I found that fascinating. I loved that 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.840 so much because we had talked about you know, I 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:28.120 remember watching with absolute joy when you came on with 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.760 Amy Poehler, and we talked about doing something like that, 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:35.040 and then our writers Chris Kelly and Sara Schneider, who 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.240 are brilliant, We're like, no, it should be a more conversational, 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.200 less presentational thing. What if you guys did a scene 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:45.520 together And I thought, yeah, great, And then you were 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:52.440 so funny and you so embodying the character of Val 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:57.760 the Bartender. Yeah, you know, I mean, yeah, have me back. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.920 I mean, you know, the Bartender has lots to talk 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.480 about right now. I mean, there's so much going on. 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:08.280 He man, you know, let's discuss the world. I have 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.280 to say. I also, along with you know, millions of 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:17.560 other people, was just really knocked out by your singing 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:22.359 Hallelujah that first episode after the election, and you know, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.840 I didn't know whether I'd ever get a chance to 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.520 thank you or to certainly do it in a you know, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:33.040 public way. But that was an incredible performance and it 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.159 was so meaningful to me. How did that even come together? 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:40.080 How how did you all decide to do that? Well? 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.720 Thank you first of all? That means a lot. And 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:46.880 we were we had bandied a few things about. We 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.000 were all so broken. I know, for me, that was 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.800 the biggest heartbreak of my life. I've than my father 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.280 dying when I was a teenager. I was so you know, 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:03.720 and Leonard Cohen had passed that week, and my uh 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:06.560 same the same writer friends, Chris Kelly and Sara Schneider 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.040 had sent along this verse of Hallelujah that I had 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.840 never heard of, about even when things go wrong, standing 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.240 before the Lord of Song with nothing on your tongue 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:21.879 but Hallelujah. And I thought, oh, that's what this moment 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:27.439 calls for, if we can muster it, and I wanted to. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.719 It just came from a very personal place of wanting 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:37.680 to commiserate and provide some shred of something to people 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.679 who were devastated, and I knew it was going to 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.840 not sit well with people who weren't and I just 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:47.520 had to, you know, I just I had to share 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.359 how I felt. It was like a very primitive just 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:57.119 wanting to connect with my countrymen in that moment, and 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.240 and also on some level with you. I mean, I 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.960 didn't figure you'd be watching, but I wanted to say 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.800 something that I thought you might say, and I thought 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:16.160 maybe you, in your infinite strength, might offer some ray 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:23.960 of hope. At that moment, I wanted to just give 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.520 people a hug. Basically, Yeah, yeah, it was. It felt 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.240 like a big hug. And you know, people still come 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.680 up and cry with me or around me, and so 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.280 it just had such a huge impact on so many people. 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:53.000 We're taking a quick break, stay with us. You know, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.240 you've said, and I've heard you and other interviews and 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.680 read that you have a lot of eclectic interest, which 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.159 I relate to. I mean, you do everything from I 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.120 do because I'm so I'm interested in so many odds 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:10.520 and ends, and you're interested in astrophysics, music theory, the 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.080 history of the Silk Road, which I really relate to. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.359 So what are you interested in these days? What what 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.400 you know? What's catching your attention? Well, other things that 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.840 are in my fancy right now mostly have to do 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.119 with survival, and I think you can understand why I've 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:31.880 become very interested suddenly in plant science, farming, growing food, plumbing, 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:37.719 heating and cooling systems, um, construction, things like that. Um, 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.600 I'm good. I'm a prepper. Now I'm will be going 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.080 to my bunker. And I got your barker picked out. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.359 I made you know where it is. I drive every 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.320 weekend to look for it. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry, don't 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.479 worry about Just let me know in case I need 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.320 a bunker. You know, you always need a spare bunker. 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.960 You never know what's going to happen. Well, as you know, 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.520 we set aside some time in the last episode of 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.960 the season to answer some listener questions, and you've graciously 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.119 agreed to come along for the ride on this, and 0:21:10.640 --> 0:21:13.840 so let's get started. See what people have on their minds. Kate, 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.960 Oh my goodness. Okay, So I have these printed out 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.560 and I will read them to you and you would 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:26.359 answer them as yourself. Okay, not not as Val the bartender, 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.439 but as Or or take on your alter ego. But 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.600 get the shirt please and the name to otherwise we 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:37.080 won't understand what's going on. Okay, this is from Melinda. 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:40.119 Dear Madam, Secretary or as you are now in my 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:44.600 head Hilly Billy, which I think it's so great. I 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.439 am a voracious reader, as I know you are. I 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.879 have you to thank for introducing me to Louise Penny, 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.400 who's entire of I've now devoured, including State of Terror, 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.480 which was excellent. My question to you is this, what 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.160 have you been reading lately and what would you recommend? 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:03.080 Great question. Well, because I did have COVID and was 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.639 down for a week, I caught up on some of 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:11.760 my favorite historic fiction kind of series. So I read 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:16.000 the latest Donna Leone Great Mysteries set in Venice if 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:20.160 you have not discovered those. I read the latest Charles Todd, 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:26.240 set in nineteen twenties after World War One England, very good. 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:34.800 And then I've recently discovered the historical novels by Sharon K. Penman. 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:41.040 I'm reading her series about King Henry and Eleanor of Aquitaine. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:47.040 Very interesting, not only well done, but really engrossing. So 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.840 those are some of the things I'm reading. What happens 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:55.000 don't tell me? Okay, here we have a question from 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:58.320 Craig flicking Er. What are your thoughts on the State 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:00.639 of Attack. We find on the lg ME too plus 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:05.119 community with Florida's Don't Say Gay bill passing seventeen in 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.679 Texas with its anti transagenda, I can't help but wonder 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:12.639 how this plays into the midterm elections. Oh my gosh it. 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:20.240 First of all, it's profoundly outraging and deeply sad that 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:24.840 you have people in positions of power in our country 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:32.040 who are more interested in undermining and opposing the rights 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:35.679 of individuals than they are in bringing people together. And 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.440 I think people have to stand up to it. And 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.280 the idea don't say gay. I mean I think people 0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:44.040 should go around, you know, saying gay all the time. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:49.760 Anything we can do to puncture the hypocrisy and the 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:54.600 cruelty that lies behind this, we need to be doing. Uh. 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.520 So that's um, you know, my hope. And and do 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:01.080 it with comedy, do it with political action. And you 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.760 mentioned the mid terms, and let me just say, please 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:09.159 please turn out and vote. You know, the hypocrites and 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:13.960 the hate mongers win when people don't vote. So that 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.240 would be my plea as we move forward in this year, 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:21.320 let's say it now together on three one to three 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:28.399 gay gay gay gay. Okay. This is from Pie or 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:32.800 her email handle is a griffin door equestrian girl. That's 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:38.800 a good one. Hello, Hillary and Mry guest. It's me Hello. 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.960 I have two questions. I hope that's okay. One, what 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:46.040 are some of your favorite songs and artists? My favorites 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:50.000 are Joanne and Born to Die, Lady Gaga, Lana del Ray, 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.280 Taylor Swift, and Nate Lewis. And do you have any 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:57.439 pets and how are they doing? Well? Let's start with 0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:02.240 the easy question on pets. Yes, we have dogs. We 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.680 have a labradoodle named Mazie and we have a toy 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:11.639 poodle named Tally short for Tallula. Uh. They're both getting 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.920 up in years, but they still are full of personality 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:20.639 and incredibly fun to be around. Now asked to songs. 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.520 I like your question, and I like what you said 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.440 about some of your favorites. So here's what I'm currently doing. 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:30.080 You know, I've always loved from the time I was, 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.280 you know, literally a teenager up until now, I've always 0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:39.840 loved listening to women's voices, you know, women like Carol 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.359 King and Judy Collins and Joan Bayaz and Joni Mitchell. 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:47.720 I mean, they were really formative. So now fast forward, 0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:52.080 a very long time. I am listening to a lot 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.919 of the really famous young women. So I love I 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.960 love Lady Gaga. I love her both as a performed 0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:03.640 her and a singer. I just really also like her sensibility. 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.120 I mean, just in the last week, the way that 0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:11.960 she was with Liliza Manelli at the ill fated infamous Oscars, 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.720 she ended that with such a note of grace, which 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.560 was well needed. Um at the Grammys, which I was watching, 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:22.480 you know, she came and carried the train of a 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.520 skirt for someone who was having trouble because of crutches. 0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:30.000 So I like Lady Gaga. I really like Adele. I 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:34.119 listened to everything Adele does. Um, I'm listening to a 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.960 lot of Taylor Swift, and I really like Taylor Swift. 0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:41.000 I like her storytelling. I'm getting really into Taylor Swift. 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:45.000 I'm starting to listen to Billie Eilish. I think her 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.080