1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about Sorority Life with 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Dirty Rush. 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I am currently in the Bay Area for the Big Game. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I love it here, but I also gathered some sorority 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: girls to answer some burning questions here for this Dirty 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Rush episode. Hi girls, Hi, yes, I found them off 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: the street. Okay, so let's get into it. Is it 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: weird to go to the bathroom and shower next to 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: each other in the sorority house. 12 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: Well, my sorority house was the showers in the bathrooms 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: were closed off, so it was not weird at all. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: I never had that problem. 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: What do you mean, like like there was individual showers 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: are you talking about, Like yeah, but aren't. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Like being in the back at the same time. Yeah. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think any sorority house has like open showers. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: I think everyone has a stall stall. 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 5: But I mean, at least in my house, we had 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 5: shower parties, so you did purposely time like when you 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 5: were going to showers that one person have a speaker 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: and everyone be hanging out in the back showering at 24 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 5: the exact same. Yeah, like purposely planned. 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Okay, that's I feel like that's kind of fun though. 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's super fun. 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: I mean to just like shower and dance and sing 28 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: in the shower. Yeah, that's so fun. 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: I mean you're getting ready for the parties or going 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: to the same events. Why not shower together? 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: How many showers were there? 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 5: Five stall? Like five little stalls. 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: I assume some girls probably showered together. 34 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: Probably, and it was like it when I was showering. 35 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: I feel like it was always like an everything shower 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: or not always, I guess. Yeah, But in the fraternity 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: houses they had just shower heads in like a huge 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: shower room, which is disgusting. 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, like they would steam out the whole room. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: The room was like about this size and there was 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 3: like six shower heads. 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: I just feel like it's weirder for guys, But then 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I feel like guys get off on it more than girls. Yeah, 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: dead ass, because I feel like it's kind of like that. 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: In the high school locker rooms too. It's pretty much 46 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: all open. 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is open, but I remember it was 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: never like a get naked kind of thing, like everyone 49 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: was in their swimsuits from pe or from swim or 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: water polo. 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't really have that issue with going 53 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: to the bathroom. I think girls think it's less weird. 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and kind of just go with it. It's like, 55 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: oh well, I just. 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 5: Think it's especially at frats, I think it's quite gross 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 5: because I've been in situations where I'm waiting for the 58 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 5: bathroom out of frat and girls will go into the 59 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: open like exactly what we're talking about with those bathrooms 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 5: and go and pee in there. So I'm like, that's 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: an extra layer of disgusting. 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the bathrooms are god yeah clean. That's crazy. Okay. Yeah, 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: so girls, girls do it, I guess, and it's not weird. Okay. 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Is it weird to date someone your sorority sister also dated, 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: I could say, I feel like you. 66 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: Will get burned and that's so awkward too. 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 6: And also like if you go to a small school, 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 6: like I went to a smaller school, like you're not 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 6: going to go for a guy that like like all 70 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 6: your friends have like hooked up with or dated, like 71 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 6: that's just weird. But it just gets smaller and smaller 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 6: as you get older and older. By the time it's 73 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 6: senior year, like your friends have kissed every normal guy. 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it's just a big no no too, 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: especially while you're a freshman and to rush, you should 76 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: not get with any older guy. If you want to 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: get with a freshman, it's fine because odds are, like 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: a potential older sister, it's going to have a less 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: likely chance to hook up with a freshman than an 80 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: older guy. 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I remember one of my friends. 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: I felt so bad for her, but smart, beautiful girl, 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: like definitely could have been a sorority girl and just 84 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: never was. 85 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, she ended up becoming one. 86 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but freshman year she got with this older guy, 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: but he happened to be dating somebody in the sorority 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: she didn't know, and they like blacklisted her. Oh god, 89 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: for rush, it's crazy. 90 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: I remember there was a story of this girl I 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 6: went to high school with. She went to school in California, 92 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 6: and so they had second semester rush and at a party, 93 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 6: she was like all over him, grabbing him, and they 94 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 6: like dropped her like every house because like the girl 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 6: it was like the president's boyfriend and so like she 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 6: told everyone to drop there, which is insane. 97 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: I feel like that happened so often just hear all 98 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 5: these stories, Like I feel like when you dating someone 99 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 5: who's in a like a frat, like you know why 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 5: they broke up. Yah. Yeah, you're all the like you're 101 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: the reputation, You're the reason, whether it's cheating, whether it's whatever, 102 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 5: and it's always something. So it's like, if you were 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 5: to then choose to go and date that guy doesn't 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: look good on your Well. 105 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: What's funny is when I was a sophomore, No, when 106 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: I was a freshman, I was hooking up with a 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: sophomore who I thought was kind of weird and like 108 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: he asked me on like weird dates that I like 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: freaked out and would throw my phone across the room, 110 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: like I could not stand him. But we were hooking 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: up and then we stopped. Flash forward to sophomore year. 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: I was interviewing, which sounds so weird. I was interviewing 113 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: girls to be my little What does. 114 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: That call speed dated? 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 5: Yes? 116 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: Ye, we were speed dating and she was telling me 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: the story of this guy she was hooking up with 118 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: but was a little bit weird, same guy. 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: And then we like bonded over the fact that you're 120 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: using the term weird too. 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what that's his descriptor weird. 122 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 4: But I don't even know. We just like like slowly 123 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 4: on sheet. 124 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she's turned into my little Oh my god, 125 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: and then get this. 126 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: See, sometimes you could really bond over a guy. Yeah, 127 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: it didn't didn't have. 128 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 3: To be weird because we both live in the same city. Now, 129 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 3: last year, I went on a date with this smoke 130 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 3: from a friend of a friend, mutual. 131 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 4: We went on a couple of dates. 132 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: You're using such interesting words today. 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: We went on a couple of dates. He was so gorgeous, 134 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: so fun. 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: And then flash forward to like six months later, someone 136 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: told me that it came up randomly in my little 137 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: conversation that they had gone on a couple of dates too. 138 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: And mashed on hinge. 139 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: That's why we're so sisters at Yeah. 140 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: I don't think you guys should constantly be going out 141 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: with the same guys. I feel like for it to 142 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: happen twice, it's a little too often. Yeah, it's one 143 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: too many times for sure, especially when you move to 144 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: a new city. 145 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: Let's not bond over it too much. Okay, curiously, we 146 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: haven't talked sense. 147 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Well, okay, would you say that there is cattiness in 148 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the sorority house or just in sororities in general. 149 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: Yes, like caddie like cat like you fight like over 150 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: stupid stuff. Yeah, like caddies. 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 6: It's like small, small like girls getting mad over really 152 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 6: small things like. 153 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: Music too loud in the realm, or not returning somebody's thing. 154 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: Me and my roommate used to sing to each other. 155 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's yeah a little no. 156 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: We would just like sing like just for funsies, and 157 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: like people would talk about it downstairs like we were 158 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: just we were we were just having fun in our rooms. 159 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: I definitely would have talked about it. 160 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: So people were talking about it and they were a 161 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: little bit annoyed, and yeah, I like why there was 162 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: singing coming from. 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 6: The room, And that was like the only dat Like 164 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 6: just like your conversations, would you sing them? 165 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. 166 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 5: You wouldn't play music, make a little jingle of your day. 167 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, you just like sing what you're 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: trying to say? 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: Can you give us an example not a seal? 170 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: Yes exactly. And it actually actually was like can you 171 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: guys keep it down Like I'm trying to study and 172 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: we're like. 173 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: Oh, actually, what causes the most drama in a sorority house. 174 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: I think like boys, boys in drinking, blacking out. We 175 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: had some horrible instances where girls would come home and 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: like one girl projectile vomited in our living room and 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: it was bad. And then it was like the carpet 178 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: would was dragged out and put out side, and then 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: in the morning the president woke up screenshotted the security 180 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: footage of the carpet outside and was like, why is 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 3: our carpet outside? 182 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: And then I don't know, Yeah, I was just a disaster. 183 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: I think. 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think it's boys and drinking. I 185 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: think it's like sneaking boys into the house too, or 186 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: like coming home drunk and like raiding the kitchen or 187 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: making a mess. 188 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: I feel like all of that is like kind of big. 189 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot. We have a lot of issues with girls, 190 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 5: like once they become seniors, not being involved anymore, and 191 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 5: that causes a lot of problems, like not showing up 192 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 5: to events, not being involved in like alumni things, or 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 5: not coming to chapter and kind of just once you 194 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 5: get to a certain point, you no longer have as 195 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: much interest in the story. You kind of just fall 196 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 5: off the grid. 197 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 6: It just happens it happens, I think with my sorty 198 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: I was just like, yeah, like, of course the seniors 199 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: aren't a chapter. 200 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: Well, it's also I tell the younger girls, I'm like, 201 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 5: once you're a senior, you will feel the same way 202 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 5: like you will, just not anymore. I've been. 203 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: It's just found to happen. Which side of rush would 204 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: you think is better? 205 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 4: My god? 206 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: What side of rush do you think is better? Participating 207 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: in rush or rushing the potential and ms and already 208 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: being in a sorority. 209 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 5: Already I agree, reason that's better. 210 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 2: I hated. 211 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 5: I love doing it. 212 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: I liked both, but I liked on the other side 213 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: and recruited. I thought it was fun and exciting because 214 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: you're a freshman. I love then being older and actually 215 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: having to rush all these girls all day. 216 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to like die. 217 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, ours also went over. 218 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 3: It was first semester and it always went over a 219 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: three weekend and like a big football game. 220 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 5: To miss the first football game. It was dry. Yeah, 221 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: and they didn't let anybody in Greek life do it. 222 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 223 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 4: I before to be in then through I. 224 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 5: Just always felt like about myself. You're ranking like literally going, 225 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: you're doing these rounds, You're ranking girls. Yeah. 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 227 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: Like being on the other side of it, I feel 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 5: like it was just super fun to elevator pitch and 229 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 5: be like that, so so like easy to just like 230 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 5: oh my god, like this is fun and no stakes involved. 231 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously the stakes are whether or not you 232 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: get into a sorority. When you're on the other end 233 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 5: of it, I feel like I left every day being like, wow, 234 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 5: I'm an awful person. I just had to like put 235 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 5: girls in boxes and categorize everyone based on who was this, 236 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 5: this or that? 237 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I got that. 238 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 239 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 6: I feel like if you're involved in recruitment, then you 240 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 6: tend to like like it a lot more like on 241 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 6: being in the sority. 242 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: What does kind of suck is like the rush week 243 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: sometimes I just think it's in it's exhausting, like when 244 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: you're a freshman rushing like you're excited. 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: Obviously if things don't go your way, it's maybe not 246 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: the best experience for you, but like just planning all that, 247 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: like rush chair they do a lot. 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: They do so much. Like it's a lot. It's a lot. 249 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: I mean it's a full time job. It's a little exhausting. 250 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it like if you have a good 251 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: friend that doesn't get into the same sorority that you 252 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: got into. 253 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: That's hard. I feel like it's hard. I don't know. 254 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's a funny adjustment as a freshman, Yeah, 255 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: because you get really busy, you start. 256 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: Going to a lot of your events, and then. 257 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: You end up eventually seeing you know your friends at 258 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: parties and you end up making it work. But I 259 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: think you do have to put a little more effort 260 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: into it at first. 261 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it kind of matters more. It's like 262 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 6: the semester of rush you're doing it. Like I feel 263 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 6: like if it's like for my school, we did it 264 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 6: the week before recruitment started, so like you don't have 265 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 6: that many friends yet, Like you haven't made that many 266 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 6: friends unless you like knew girls from your high school. Yeah, 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 6: but once you were a second semester and you've like 268 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 6: made all these friends first semester, then I feel like 269 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 6: it would be a lot harder if your best friends 270 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 6: you've made for a semester didn't get in the swardy 271 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 6: you got in and maybe the ones you guys talked 272 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 6: about rushing. 273 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with that. So I feel like 274 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: it just depends. 275 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeh, I didn't really experience that. I mean, I kind 276 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 4: of all your friends got into the same one. Well, yeah, 277 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: it was the first week of. 278 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 5: School, so my roommates that's like me too. 279 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, we both rushed the same sororities and then. 280 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: Got Yeah see mine was second semester and a lot 281 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: of my friends just didn't rush or like didn't have 282 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: the GPA to rush, and so. 283 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 3: I just was in my sorority. Why didn't some of 284 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 3: your friends rush they didn't have the GPA? Oh really yeah, 285 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: like literally most you had to have like a two 286 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: point five. I thought it was the craziest thing ever. 287 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: We are are ours you have to have a three 288 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: two to get into you gotta have a two point five. 289 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, how do my friends? 290 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 6: And that's hard if your second semester rush, because so 291 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: many freshmen have a hard first semester because it's such 292 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 6: an adjustment. 293 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was it. 294 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think And at the time, a lot of 295 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: my friends thought they wanted to go into this field 296 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: and maybe be this or you know, a doctor, a nurse, 297 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: a dentist, like really hard yeah majors where it was like, 298 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: maybe not the smartest decision as a freshman to do. Yeah, 299 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: because they were taking biology or chemistry or just really 300 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: hard classes where they were. 301 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: All literally failing. Yeah, that's so it's a big adjustment. Yeah, 302 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: you're right. So I feel like the GPA thing is 303 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: hard again for second semester. The guitment. 304 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 4: It's kind of like on the flip side with guys. 305 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: I remember freshman year. 306 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: I was talking to my guy friends and they were 307 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: failing out of their freshman year. 308 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: Classes because of pledging. Yeah, fraternities, and so they were 309 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: like up all night. 310 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if they were drinking while they were pledging, 311 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: whatever they were doing, they had zero time to do 312 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: their school work and then they were exhausted during class. 313 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: So then they all got horrible gps. 314 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: That's why school. My dad always tells me that the 315 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 5: only reason he was in a frat for one semesters 316 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: because his grades tanked too much that he had to 317 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 5: drop like literally pledging, Like it's hard to keep up, 318 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 5: especially if you depending on your majors, Like you really 319 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: have to keep that high GPA. 320 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, my school, the fraternities, like during pledging, like had 321 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 6: to go to the library for certain hours of the day. 322 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 6: We had study hours, had study hours as freshmen we did. 323 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: To like keep us like and honestly, I kind of 324 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: liked it, yeah, because it was like they forced you 325 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: to go to like either whether it was a lecture 326 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: hall or the library, and we literally had to sit 327 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: there for two hours and like do work. 328 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it kind of just like forced you to 329 00:15:59,200 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: do it. 330 00:15:59,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 331 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: Also you're going to do They would yell at you 332 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: if you were talking. Yeah, so it's like mine as well, 333 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: just do your work. Yeah, yeah, that's true. 334 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 6: I think it's a good thing for the fraternities because 335 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 6: they kind of need that because they're so busy, so 336 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 6: like forced them to go sit in the library, yeah 337 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 6: for two hours. 338 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: We would get points for studying, yeah, which would then 339 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: lead to like a good room. 340 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: Thinking back to points good room for living in the house. 341 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 342 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Gabrielle, my sister grinded for those points because she wanted 343 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: a single, She wanted her own room. 344 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she grinded, went to every single event. Did 345 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: she get it, Yeah, she got it. Oh, of course 346 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: she got it. 347 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: She would have lost her mind, yeah, if she had 348 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: enough if I think she would have lost her mind. 349 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Because if you didn't get a single, obviously, then you 350 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: got a double, but if you didn't get the double, 351 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: you were literally they called it the orphanage because you 352 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: were stuck in a room with like twenty bunk beds. 353 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: Oh my god, And I've just thought that that was Michigan. 354 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't it called like the. 355 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 4: Or I don't know, sleeping porch. 356 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 2: Yes, I was like pork. Yeah, I don't know. 357 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, but I thought it was crazy 358 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I've never heard of that before. 359 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: Like there's your ship is every like your stuff is everywhere. 360 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: It's basically like everyone has a there's like a room 361 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: for the beds and then a room for everyone's core. 362 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard of this. It's crazy, and it's like 363 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 2: that's no way to live, ye go. 364 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: Or if someone coughs, yeah, oh my gosh, the illnesses 365 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: that probably spread in that room, oh yeah. Or if 366 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: you can't sleep and everyone else around you is to 367 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: sleep and they're storing to get creative. 368 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: Gabrielle's OCD is just too extreme, Like she would have 369 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: never been able to. 370 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 4: To do that, been able to survive, you know, Yeah, 371 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: I could never. 372 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: Our fraternity house is gross, super very. 373 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 4: I don't think i've ever seen it decently looking. 374 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: Room. 375 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: Genuinely, they're disgusting. 376 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 2: They're just so sticky. 377 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 5: Everything is sticky. There is so much alcohol to think 378 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 5: that it's the turnover time throwing a party, then you 379 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: have like maybe three days of actually living there and 380 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: then another party that's true, and then three days of 381 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: living there. It's just never clean. No, they don't actually 382 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 5: mean there's no maintenance of like livable standards. 383 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: I think us the fraternity houses at Rutgers hired a 384 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: cleaning service, but like not really like they don't care. 385 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: It's just house. 386 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 3: It's so nasty, I mean, like from houses being passed 387 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: on to like people coming in your room and breaking stuff. 388 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: I feel like there's no way to salvage a fraternity 389 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: no much less like a living room. It was so 390 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 3: odd if I would go over to the fraternity house 391 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: in the daytime or the week to like see my 392 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: guy friends and there was a couch in the living room. 393 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 4: Did it come from hundred million years old? What animals 394 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: are living. 395 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: Couches in their rooms? Like always? 396 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 397 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: And their tiny room they managed to fit a house. 398 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: Everyone wanted like their room to. 399 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 5: Be it. 400 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: Like the hangout. Like during the party, everyone. 401 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: Co were in this room if you had a clean room. 402 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 3: I remember my friends and I would talk about this 403 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: if we went into our guy friend's room in the 404 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: fraternity house and it was like spotless, We're like, that's weird. 405 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: You should definitely not be having a tight, spotless week house. 406 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: No dust. 407 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 4: He was a little o CD. 408 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: Well some people are, but I feel like also living 409 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: in a fraternity house could like send you into having 410 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: like chronic of CD because you're like, this is the 411 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: only space that I can actually control. Yeah, and it's 412 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: my room. Yeah, yeah, I would probably keep it clean. 413 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: You should have thought that that was like attractive. 414 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 4: I know, I think I did. And then my friends 415 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 4: were like ew. 416 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: I was like, the. 417 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 6: Do you guys want to hear something crazy? Yeah, And 418 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 6: my dad's fraternity, him and his roommate started a bar 419 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 6: in their room. Oh my schools, it's still there. Yeah, yes, 420 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 6: oh that's pretty cute. Yeah, in their room and it's 421 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 6: still there. But I'm like, how were you living? And 422 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 6: they would make money. They would like go buy all 423 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 6: this alcohol, set up this little bar, and so when 424 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 6: there was parties, girls would like go up and I 425 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 6: drink from their room. 426 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so funny, so smart, right, but like, 427 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: how would you like live like with a bar in 428 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: your room? Did he make like the door the bar? 429 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: It was like they set one up, I think the yeah. 430 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 6: Crazy. 431 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: What was also interesting was how much they paid for 432 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: their rooms. I mean, living in my area anyways was 433 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: just really expensive. But like the dues that they had 434 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 3: to pay to live in that ship hole to like also. 435 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: Was insane. Their dues were so high. 436 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, like going to formals and stuff, oh yeah, because 437 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: they would have and like their parents were paying for 438 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: us to get blacked out. 439 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Literally and great wanted to one up and wanted to 440 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: one up each other when it came to the formal. 441 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: So it was like you drove to your formal, you 442 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: took a party bus to your formal. 443 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: You did this. 444 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: Where did you guys go for your formals? 445 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: We if they were like nice. 446 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: We always kind of went like near the shore area, 447 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: and like we had like a couple of venues that 448 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: were on the beach, and we did one in the city. 449 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: Would you guys stay to night? And that was like 450 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: would you do like away foremost where you spent the 451 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 2: night anywhere only for the fraternities? 452 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: Did that? Yeah? 453 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, never the sororities, yeah. 454 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: Same, which was so fun away foremost were fun yeah, so. 455 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 2: Fun until you like didn't want to be with that guy. 456 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, or you like had the worst end of your 457 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 4: life in your. 458 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: Anxiety and you have two more days and then you 459 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 3: have to drive home with like six people. 460 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: Awful. 461 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 462 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: Would you, guys ever shower out of fraternity always? Ever 463 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: boyfriends at a fraternity house? No, so you never experienced No, 464 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: I would never never. 465 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: Like you live in the same city. Do not put 466 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: your bare feet in that shower, go home, Go home, boyfriend. 467 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: If you got a shower, that means you should go home, Like, 468 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 3: do not shower, please go home. 469 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 4: Imagine you're like, oh. 470 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: Hey, babe, can I take a shower here? I mean 471 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: it's like the communal showers. Its gross. And that is 472 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: part one. Stay tuned for part two. Love you guys. Bye,