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Speaker 1: This is Amy and TJ Love Stories.

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Speaker 2: William and Bonnie join us now on our love story series.

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Speaker 2: Thank you both for being with us. And how are

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Speaker 2: you two doing today?

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Speaker 3: I feel pretty good. We did a conventional Sunday so

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Speaker 3: that was tiring, but we're pretty good for our age,

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Speaker 3: we're pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And will you tell our podcast listeners how long the

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Speaker 2: two of you have been together?

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Speaker 3: Actually, we've been together more than seventy five years. It's

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Speaker 3: more like seventy eight years we've been together. Wow, I

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Speaker 3: met Bill when I was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, nos, can we go back? How long were

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Speaker 1: you dating before you got engaged? And then how long

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Speaker 1: were you engaged before you got married?

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Speaker 3: Well, we never did anything officially like that, do you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? We did get married. My mother

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Speaker 3: insisted we got had a little wedding and so forth,

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Speaker 3: and in my backyard in Illinois, but it was never

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Speaker 3: very Bill, How did the family? How did your family

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Speaker 3: take it when you told them you were going to

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Speaker 3: marry me?

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Speaker 4: Badly?

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Speaker 3: And mine too did not want No what do you

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Speaker 4: I hadn't done munch in the business at that time,

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Speaker 4: so I can't understand their concern about her hooking up

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Speaker 3: Have a penny.

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Speaker 1: So how did you win them over?

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Speaker 3: How did I win Bill over?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Bill, how did you win over her family?

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Speaker 4: My only when I started actually working, I thought, well,

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Speaker 4: I guess he can do this.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 4: Then they turned alief and became more friendly, and her

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Speaker 4: mother across the room silently looked at me and said,

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Speaker 4: I love you.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, well, I'm in. But my brother, my

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Speaker 3: brother always left him. My brother was his fan. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and none of his family were fans of mine. No, No,

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Speaker 3: they did not. They did not think I was good

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Speaker 3: enough for their Bill. I didn't think I was pretty enough,

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Speaker 3: you know. The only thing that they did like my family.

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Speaker 3: They liked my family, but they didn't like me. And

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Speaker 3: it's because his mother didn't want to lose him. I

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Speaker 3: think that anybody he married she would not have liked that.

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Speaker 3: She didn't want to lose him, and she was hoping

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Speaker 3: he would be her meal ticket. Definitely, definitely, Bonnie.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever win her over? Did you ever win

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Speaker 2: over his family?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes when there were problems, No, when there were problems,

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Speaker 3: they were horrible to me. There were a lot of

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Speaker 3: problems among the family and among marriages and stuff like

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Speaker 3: that the girls had problems and if I ever suggested

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Speaker 3: something like maybe you should see a therapist and work

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Speaker 3: it out, oh man, they killed me. They said, just

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Speaker 3: because you're crazy. We're crazy. And we had a lot

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Speaker 3: of bad times. Yeah, did not have bad times with

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Speaker 3: my family. Really, there's no question that they were, you know,

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Speaker 3: against him. But because he was an actor and my

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Speaker 3: father had been an actor, my mother didn't want Bill

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Speaker 3: to be an actor, I mean, didn't want me to

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Speaker 3: marry an actor. But it was I would say, for

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Speaker 3: really did have to pay attention to your parents. I'm

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Speaker 3: talking a long time ago, nineteen fifty one, you know,

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Speaker 3: and people were kids were still paying attention to their parents.

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Speaker 3: Now wouldn't matter, you know you, but anyway, but yeah, it.

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Speaker 2: Still seems like, even in today's times, if you have

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of stress to know that both sides

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Speaker 2: aren't happy about the two of you being together. What

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Speaker 2: brought you guys together in the first place, What made

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Speaker 3: Well, Billy, you tell this story about the play auditioning

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Speaker 3: for the play at Northwestern. I was eighteen and he

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Speaker 3: for two years. So we were put A lot of

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Speaker 3: the freshman actors were put in groups, and then they

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Speaker 4: Bill, I've been on Broadway at the time, so I

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Speaker 4: was kind of pretty much killed with myself. And I

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Speaker 4: this is going to be a bomb. I mean these

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Speaker 4: blonde with a very good voice. So I waited for

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Speaker 4: her when we were dismissed, and I waited for her

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Speaker 4: at the door, and she came by me and I said,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'll out a cup of coffee.

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Speaker 3: She said, you're too short.

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Speaker 4: I said, yeah, that's right, how about a cup of coffee?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: It turns out, I find out much later she'd been

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Speaker 4: following me at a distance on the campus at Northwestern

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Speaker 4: because she had heard I've been in New York on.

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Speaker 3: Broad and I loved his leather jacket jacket. But what

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Speaker 3: I really meant you're too short? I said, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, I admired him, and i'd heard this kind

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Speaker 3: I was a big girl and I was used to big,

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Speaker 3: really that he was too short. I was really saying,

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Speaker 2: It came maybe you were playing hard to get or something,

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Speaker 2: or wanting to make sure I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Playing a game. It's just, oh, no, you're too short.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm too big for you. I mean, you know.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, that was from that moment on, we were

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Speaker 3: not separate. We did everything together. He he called me,

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Speaker 3: and he didn't have any money, but I had an allowance,

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Speaker 3: so I would pay for the movies. I would pay

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Speaker 3: just together. It was like, okay, now here we are,

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Speaker 3: Bonnie and Bill, or Bill and Bonnie or whatever. But

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Speaker 3: Never you know, was wrote love letters or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: But he he used to sing to me. We'd be

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Speaker 3: in a restaurant having a hamburger or whatever, and he

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Speaker 4: I didn't have any money she was paying for so

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Speaker 3: And he sang those songs so well. He loved Frank,

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Speaker 3: so he did that. We both loved Frank Sinatra. He

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Speaker 3: was really part of our life, you know. And later

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Speaker 3: we get to know his daughter very well. But he

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Speaker 3: for some reason, I would say that that Sinatra was

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Speaker 3: part of everybody's love life.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It was just he When he sang to you, it

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Speaker 3: all part of our lives at that time.

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 3: He was wonderful.

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Speaker 2: I love the memories you have of Bill singing to you.

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Speaker 2: That's so sweet. I was wondering who said I love

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Speaker 2: you first? Do you all remember that? Members?

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Speaker 3: Neither one of us we knew. It was all unspoken.

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Speaker 3: It was like we never had to say anything. When

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Speaker 3: we got married. We don't remember we wanted to do it.

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Speaker 3: We just remember that we you know, in those days,

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Speaker 3: get married and that was it. It was really for

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Speaker 3: the sex, but we were totally bound together. Getting married

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Speaker 1: Do you really not remember who said I love you first?

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Speaker 1: And when you started saying it to each other.

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Speaker 3: We don't talk like that.

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Speaker 4: We are not, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean occasionally Bill will I'm terrible, I'm the worst,

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Speaker 3: but occasionally he will write something something nice, you know,

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Speaker 3: on a card or something. But I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. We just have always from the time we met,

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Speaker 3: a lot of hard times, don't get me wrong, but

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Speaker 3: it was we were just together and we were meant

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Speaker 3: to be or something. You know. It was. I guess

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Speaker 3: you can't call it romantic, but you can call it

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Speaker 3: something else. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What do you admirable?

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Speaker 5: Beautiful, lack of a least, that's funny.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious. You've been together for over seventy years. Do

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about what that daily interaction has evolved into

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Speaker 3: We have thought, but not the way people fight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we're certainly not Bickerson's at all at all, none of that,

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Speaker 3: because that's so annoying. But I do remember a terrible

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Speaker 3: time when he was really mean to me and I

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Speaker 3: so I was making a lot of money at that time,

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Speaker 3: and I think it was getting to him finally, and

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Speaker 3: I remember we were going out. It was it was

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Speaker 3: an anniversary, yes, And I don't remember what the argument was.

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Speaker 3: He got so angry that at me, and I don't

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Speaker 3: remember he walked out and we were supposed to go

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Speaker 3: because that Bill's whole thing in life, and I guess

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Speaker 3: it's probably every man's is he wants to be the breadwinner,

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Speaker 3: he wants to take care of everybody, he wants to

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Speaker 3: make the money, and all of that he didn't mind

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Speaker 3: when he was young, but when he was married and

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Speaker 3: I was, and then when I left the soap opera.

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Speaker 3: I had the lead on the soap opera for three

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Speaker 3: was so nervous because I said, Who's where's the money

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Speaker 3: going to be? But at that point Bill was doing

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Speaker 3: absolutely a humendous hit, and everything else that had that

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Speaker 3: Edward I'll Be wrote after that, and even though Bill

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Speaker 3: wasn't making money because it was off Broadway, he made

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Speaker 3: a huge imprint on the New York State. And from

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Speaker 3: As I said, that was the worst time. When he

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Speaker 3: He just didn't want to do it anymore, and I

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Speaker 4: People don't realize how eight or week is difficult. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You know how hard that is to do a show

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Speaker 2: I have marveled at when you go see one show

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Speaker 3: Oh a lot. I mean, what you have you have

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Speaker 3: have a lot to it's really calm now, of course

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Speaker 1: Another question we've asked the couples the idea of going

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Speaker 4: I don't remember doing anything.

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Speaker 3: He has no memory. No, But there have been times

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Speaker 3: I recently, oh, yes, recently, we were going to be

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Speaker 3: but I can get annoyed as I and I said,

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Speaker 3: say that before, and it is not becoming. And that

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Speaker 3: I didn't know why I said it. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: to him, my wife. You don't talk like that to Bill,

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Speaker 3: but I have. I have occasionally been angry doing something,

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Speaker 3: I don't do that. And I thought, wow, you know

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Speaker 3: If they change for the better, it's good. And then

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Speaker 1: Wait, money, seventy five years together and that was the

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Speaker 3: It was stupid. It was a little thing. I was annoying.

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Speaker 2: Do you all at this point do you all go

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I do remember one thing. Do you remember when you

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Speaker 3: so he would go and do the afternoon. Might I

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Speaker 5: Okay, sex Bill.

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Speaker 1: How important has sex been in you all's relationship? You've

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Speaker 3: It was the reason that we got married, not the

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Speaker 2: You go, I love that. What what?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 2: How would you describe? What is the reason why divorce

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Speaker 3: And last? Even though we never said it, we love

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Speaker 3: Even though we don't you don't speak poetry or anything,

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Speaker 2: What did you? I know you said you fought and

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Speaker 3: What have we learned? I guess I just I think

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Speaker 4: Our boys are really tremendous people, they really are, both

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Speaker 3: He is very.

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Speaker 4: I think it's very unusual.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's very unusual. I never was that

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Speaker 2: What have your I'm curious have you imparted any relationship

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Speaker 2: What advice have you given them or have they told

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Speaker 3: We wouldn't know what they've learned because they one of

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Speaker 3: who is so marvelous here, has had a bad not

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00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: a bad marriage, but a marriage that didn't didn't go on,

442
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: you know, And then he married later another wonderful lady

443
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: and he seems to be really happy now. So that

444
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: makes us very happy. Those things matter in your life

445
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: so much, so much. And we have four grandchildren and

446
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: they're all terrific. They're all very different, and they're all terrific,

447
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: and they join us occasionally and do stuff with us.

448
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 3: And you know, right now they're struggling and the economy

449
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: so that's hard for them, but they're okay, they're fine.

450
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: They're fine, and.

451
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: We like that.

452
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: You said earlier that you feel successful. Yeah, and you

453
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: spoke earlier a lot about career. But now I see

454
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: you both light up when you talk about family. So

455
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: when you said successful, how much of that were you

456
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: talking about family and personal versus career?

457
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 3: All of the things, all the things, really, really, all

458
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: the things, everything we do. We've been very lucky and

459
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 3: it has helped. For instance, when we came out to

460
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 3: California and I had been taking care of kids and

461
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: I loved it. I didn't want to leave New York.

462
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: I want to stay there and have them go to

463
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: the schools and do all that. I had sort of

464
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: stopped acting because I went on the road a couple

465
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 3: of times. I couldn't stand it. I could not stand it.

466
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: Had somebody given me this lead role in a movie

467
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: and I've had to go away for three months or

468
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: something like that, I suppose I would have done it,

469
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: and I would have been miserable.

470
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: It would have.

471
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: Been such a mistake because you got to be there

472
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 3: with the kids. You've got to be there with the

473
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: little ones, you know, as they grow up and it's

474
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: such a joy, and it's such a feeling of doing

475
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: something important. As much as I love acting as much

476
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: and I dearly love it, it's not important, not like

477
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: a relationship.

478
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 4: It isn't.

479
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: That's very cool to hear because I think that's something

480
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: that a lot of people don't recognize until it's too late.

481
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: You recognized it in the moment, and that's beautiful when

482
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: it comes to you. Bonnie and Bill, would you say

483
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: that your friends that your best friends? How much has

484
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: friendship played a role in your romance.

485
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 3: When we were younger, yes, we had a lot of

486
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 3: wonderful friends, but when we became more of a family,

487
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: it changed. But we have had We had wonderful friends

488
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: in New York. We had like a balanchine dancer, a

489
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: musician in the opera, or what do you call it,

490
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: a news guy, you know, travelers. We had wonderful friends

491
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: there in New York who are still our friends.

492
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: And have you all been able to have a friendship

493
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: with one another? Do you consider each other? Bonnie? Do

494
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: you consider Bill your best friend? And vice versa.

495
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: He's the person's there if you need him. You know,

496
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: he always came to help me acting. He would come

497
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: and help me if I was in trouble, and sometimes

498
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: help him. We're each other's best critic. I will say

499
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: that we don't lie. You know, we don't lie, and

500
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: and that's been good because then you can trust somebody

501
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: if they don't lie. If somebody lies to you, then

502
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 3: you can't trust them. But if you know it's it's

503
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: it's better to say no, you just weren't there. You

504
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: just weren't. It was like you didn't want to be

505
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: on the stage that helps you so much.

506
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: Exactly what you all would critique each other's work, Oh yes,

507
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: oh yes all the time.

508
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 3: Yes, or somebody a director can sometimes say something that's

509
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: very harmful, not hurtful, but harmful to your work. And

510
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: when that would happen, the other person was always there

511
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: to say what was really going on?

512
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: No?

513
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 3: And we we did a We put that scene together

514
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 3: in a Thousand Clowns in our apartment, with the scene

515
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: where Sandy hid in the clouse. No, you hit in

516
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: the closet or was it Sandy who was in the closet.

517
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: I can't remember, but it was a funny, funny scene

518
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: and we kind of worked on that. So we would

519
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: work on things if we had to when we did

520
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 3: say't elsewhere, we didn't ever rehearse. We didn't have to.

521
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: Who was the tougher critic him?

522
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm much Yeah. No, he's very tough. And he doesn't

523
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: like to go to the theater. He doesn't like to

524
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: even go to a movie anymore. He used to go

525
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: to the movies and love him. But the theater, he said, Oh,

526
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: I sit there, and what is it when you go

527
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: to the theater that you don't like?

528
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 4: Well, I look at it a different way than the

529
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 4: audience would. I look at it as somebody who has

530
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: been up there and knows what they're going through. So

531
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 4: it's a kind of a critical thing, and it takes

532
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: away the fact that I'm not enjoying it. I let's see,

533
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 4: I'm being critical or upset that they're doing something that

534
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 4: they probably shouldn't do.

535
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: When Bill gets a script, he looks at it for

536
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: all the wrong things. He says, that's no good, that's

537
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: no good, there's no three acts. Most actors we look

538
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 3: at it from the point of that's a nice part.

539
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ok, yeah, I can do that, and we

540
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: don't judge the whole thing as much. Most of us,

541
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: not all the smart ones, are like Bill, and it

542
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 3: makes such a difference because then you're not disappointed. I mean,

543
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 3: he knows going in what the problems are, and most

544
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: of us don't because we're so involved in our part.

545
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm doing the part and everything.

546
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very that's very sweet to hear your admiration

547
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: of his intellect and his ability to be critical for

548
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: all the right reasons. That's actually really beautiful. I'm curious. Obviously,

549
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: you guys were both so busy with your careers and

550
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: with your sons. Now that all of that has gone

551
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: away and it's just the two of you. I know

552
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: your other son is still there often, but how do

553
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: you two, how is your relationship today now when it's

554
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: just the two of you, the noise is gone, that

555
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: the showbiz isn't necessarily center stage now it's the two

556
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: of you. How would you describe your life together now

557
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: after all these years?

558
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: Very peaceful. He needs me. I have to be here

559
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: all the time. He doesn't like me to go away.

560
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't. It's like, you know, so I'm kind of

561
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: housebound sometimes more than I want to be, but I

562
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 3: get out, but he likes me to be you know,

563
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: or close, doesn't like me to go away for a day. No,

564
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 3: he doesn't, and that's fine because I'm fine with him.

565
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: I was going to say something, and oh, I know

566
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 3: what I was going to say. I'm going to put

567
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 3: in a plug. We have a online store and it's

568
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: called Bill and Bonnie Daniels dot com. And here's a

569
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: card from it, and my son, the son in New York,

570
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: he kind of runs it, and he said he's going

571
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 3: to put up a sale February, you know, like Valentine's

572
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 3: Day kind of thing, sale of all the pictures that

573
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: are the two of us together from the past and

574
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: I'm now, and people can get him on a sale,

575
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: a big sale. So I promised him. I plug that.

576
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: That is amazing.

577
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: I love that.

578
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: That is so sweet. So what is an What is

579
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 2: a day like for the two of you at home?

580
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: You say you're with Bill most days all what's the

581
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: day like?

582
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: I usually get up first. I'm up earlier, and I

583
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 3: puts around and do a few things that I have

584
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: to do. Bill gets up a little later. He makes

585
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: his own breakfast. I never learned to make coffee because

586
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 3: I don't drink coffee. So he gets up, he makes

587
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: his own breakfast. He makes well. He makes coffee, of course,

588
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: he loves grapefruit in the morning, and he will have

589
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 3: English muffins. Or if we go out to Arts Delhi,

590
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: he loves to go out for breakfast. That's his big thing,

591
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 3: to go out for breakfast. And there he'll have a

592
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 3: big breakfast. And then he reaches the New York Times.

593
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 3: Time it comes to the door, he picks up the paper.

594
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: He sits in the chair in the living room and

595
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: he reads the New York Times for a couple of hours.

596
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Then the best paper in the world. And then we'll, uh,

597
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: we don't exactly have lunch. We don't really have lunch,

598
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: but you know, we'll eat a little bit. But he

599
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 3: about three o'clock, he likes to Oh, we work out.

600
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: We have a wonderful lady who works us out twice

601
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: a week. And they're very you know, strenuous. It's good,

602
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 3: it's very good for us. Hep us he's ninety, gonna

603
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: be ninety nine, and he's strongly taking me. His heart

604
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: is so strong. It's wonderful. He's so healthy. And and

605
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 3: then he will start he'll watch he likes to watch MSNBC.

606
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: He still will watch Seinfeld loves Seinfeld. He watches those.

607
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: And I like movies, so I'll go and computer and

608
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: watch Netflix movie because they take me out of it.

609
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: You know, I'm fine with that. Then we had an

610
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 3: early dinner. We have a woman who brings us food.

611
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: Bill used to be a great cook. He was really

612
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: a good cook. Our son here is even better than

613
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 3: do and he but that's how he started. And he's

614
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: wonderful and we but but Bill doesn't cook anymore. But

615
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: we have a lady who brings in food, and I

616
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 3: can put it together, do you know what I mean?

617
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 3: But I don't And I never did cook a lot.

618
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: I cooked for the kids when I was little, when

619
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: they were little, I did And I don't know. And

620
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 3: then we go to bed about eight thirty nine o'clock.

621
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: Sat a lot easy enough. We do conventions. We still

622
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: like to make money. And so if we can go

623
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: to a convention and make a a bunch of money

624
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: and see all the peace people and make them happy,

625
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: of course, but we'd like to make the money. We

626
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: do that.

627
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: Some things never change. It's always good to make a

628
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: little money.

629
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: I hear you, especially in this time. Never know what's

630
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: going to happen.

631
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: Okay, last thing, I'm sure you get this question all

632
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: the time, but we'll ask it here. When people come

633
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: up and they hear you've been married this long, they

634
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: want to know what's the secret? How do you make

635
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: it last? So what do you tell them?

636
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: Lack of imagination?

637
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: That's he that's good.

638
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: I guess it's it's kind of I guess we don't

639
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: know it, but it's probably because we want to be together.

640
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 3: We always want to be together. I guess you call

641
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: that love.

642
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 2: Yes, I guess you call that love, love and like

643
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: and all of the love. But yeah, that's like, if

644
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: you have a desire, you can make it up, make

645
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: it work.

646
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: We feel safe with each other, you know, we feel

647
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: very safe with each other, and we're very happy to

648
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: be together all day every day.

649
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: I love that. And what a gift. What a gift

650
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: to your sons, and what a gift to us for

651
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: sharing your love story because it is beautiful and and

652
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: it's something to be proud of. Talk about success marriage

653
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 2: where you both can sit next to each other with

654
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: smiles on your face and talk about the good times

655
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: and the bad times. And Bill there is ninety nine

656
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: years old, and y'all are still sitting next to each

657
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Speaker 2: other with smiles. That is success. So congratulations. We aspire

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Speaker 2: more like the two of you in every way. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so I love Bill and Bonnie. We belong together.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here and being with

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Speaker 2: us on this podcast. We have learned so much from

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Speaker 2: you and I just appreciate you sharing your love story

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Speaker 3: Thank you. You've been very sweet.

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Speaker 5: Say your bell

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Speaker 3: Bye guys, Bye bye