1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:00,679 Speaker 1: Warning. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Today's episode contained spoilers for Marvel's The Eternals and The 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Defenders in the extended Marvel Universe in general, so be warned. Hello, 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: my name is Jason Concepcion and on Wedsday Night, and 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: welcome back DA's ravision of the podcast where we dived 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: Beady Ramite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming from 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: My Heart podcast, where we're bringing you three episodes a 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: week every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, with the mini episode 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: on Saturday, so it's technically four. Yeah, good broth, proud 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: of us. 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Today, we are debuting a new game show, Your Wrong Friend, 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: in which we hold up our sacred opinions to attack 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 3: and debate to decide what culture things someone is wrong. 14 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: About and to help us out. 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: Let's introduce you to our judges panel, who you may 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: be familiar with. 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: Hi Andelnik and I'm Aaron Kaufman. 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: The crowd goes wild. Wow, it's so good to see you. 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: So good to see you, I beeve we never get 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: to see you. I'm so happy on the show. 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: I just would like to start by saying flattery will 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: not help you win this debate. We are on fas only. 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: So Joel, your glasses is a really cool to Oh 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: my god, extra high. 25 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, disagree. Flattery will get you very far with me. 26 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: Let's lay out the rules in today's episode, which slightly 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: maligned Marvel team up property is more deserving of a 28 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 4: rewatch the Defenders or the Eternals. Jason is going to 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: stand in for the Defenders, while Rosie will be attempting 30 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 4: to connect with a Uni mind she are, thank. 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: You for the Eternals. This is your wrong friend. 32 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: All right, Rosie, I got four minutes on the clock 33 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: for you. I will start when you begin speaking. 34 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: From the very first time that I saw the Eternal's 35 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: movie picture and I saw it at Century City Westfield, 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 3: And from the very first moment I saw it, I knew. 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: It was a masterpiece. 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: I thought it was a hard sci fi romp through space, 39 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: the kind of thing we had never gotten in the 40 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Marvel universe before. It was our first real experience of 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: the Marvel cosmic. Also, Chloe Joo shot on location in beautiful, 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: gorgeous spaces that evoked the feel of, as Harry Styles 43 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: would have said at the Venice Film Festival, a real movie. 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: This is the reason I like this movie feels like 45 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: a real movie, feels like there are wild, beautiful places 46 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: to go, exploration of the cosmic history of the Marvel universe, 47 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 3: and a fantastic cast Jemma Chan, Richard Madden, Kamail Nan, Jarlie, 48 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: Liam mceugh, Brian Tyree, Henry my favorite, Lauren Ridloff, and 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: Barry Kyogan. That's my ship. I'm a big shipper of 50 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 3: those two. And I just generally think this movie is 51 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: a total underrated gem, especially because this is really the 52 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: first Jack Kirby adaptation that we've gotten that is as 53 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: strange and esoteric and weird as Jack's work himself, so 54 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: that to me is huge. Also, I'm just gonna say 55 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: Westfield Century City screening of this movie was the first 56 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: place that me and Jason ever met person after recording 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 3: the podcast together. Very auspicious movie for me, and I 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: think that while there are, you know, fair critics who 59 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: of the idea of the pacing in this movie, it's 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: a little bit slow. It's very all consuming. You kind 61 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: of have to buy into the world. I think that, 62 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: especially in twenty twenty five, if you are sick of 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: the volume, if you are sick of seeing your favorite 64 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: characters seged on top of other favorite characters. The Eternals 65 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: is a gorgeously cinematographyed by Ben Davis, great cinematographer there 66 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: doing like unbelievable work to create a really beautiful, practical 67 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: physical space. Also, it has a very interesting plotline about 68 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: the realities of if you are a colonizer and what 69 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: you do and what does it mean to actually be 70 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: someone who goes to a planet and makes it better 71 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: or goes to a space and makes it worse. 72 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I just think it's so good. 73 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Also, our first and maybe only Mirshaela ali is Blade 74 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 3: moment we get in the Vinyl post credits scene in 75 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: which we also see Dane Whitman played by none other 76 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: than Kit Harrington from Game of Thrones, one of my 77 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: favorite characters Black Night. 78 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: So it's not just the movie. 79 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: I also think there's a lot of fun stuff around 80 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: the movie, like another character will never see Harry Styles 81 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: as star Fox, but wasn't that fun? 82 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was still fun, Like I was fine. 83 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: I thought that was fun, you know, and it was 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 3: nice to see him. It was nice to see Pip 85 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: the Troll. And I will continue by saying I think 86 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: that if you really watch the MCU films, all in 87 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: order and you get to this movie. 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: This is a change in pace. 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: It is a delightful, immersive, emotional, hard sci fi that 90 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: we just don't really get anymore. This is such a 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: fun movie. It's got killer action. Also, resess Speedster that 92 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: we've seen on screen thanks to Lauren Ridloff in the 93 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: way that they brought mccary's powers to life. Also our 94 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: first death superhero in the MCU, which I love. And 95 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, Brian Tyree Henry as Pastos Kiss is a 96 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: guy and has a little baby. Also Dundley, legendary Dunley 97 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: is Gilgamesh. I want to see him in the MCU 98 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: a million times and that is why I to me 99 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: the Tunnels is in the top five of my MCU 100 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: movie all right, extra. 101 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: Strong, strong opening statements from Rosie. A lot of things 102 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: to consider. They're Jason, your four minutes begins. 103 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: Now. 104 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: Welcome, ladies and gentlemen of the Judiciary. Senor Senoras de judicial. 105 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about let's talk about the defenders, and let's 106 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 2: get the problems out of the way. 107 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 5: First. 108 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: Finn Jones's iron fists, White guys, iron fist, we got it. 109 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: It's a problem. I know, bad guys are the hand. 110 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: The Ninjas again, reused, once again, reheated, put out there 111 00:06:55,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: once again as these kind of mindless Asian killers. We 112 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: get it. It's it's been done. Here's the thing. It's 113 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: the year twenty twenty five. We're talking about a rewatch. No, 114 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: we're talking about a rewatch. And here's the hook, babe. 115 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: The fights are fucking good. They are great, and you 116 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: get one of them at least per episode. You don't 117 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: like what the what you're hearing, let me quote Don 118 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: Draper if you don't like what's being said to you, 119 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: because the hand is here, because Sigourney Weaver is a 120 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: kind of nonsense, big bad, because Finn Jones whatever, change 121 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: the conversation, fast forward to the next fight. That's all 122 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: you gotta do, babe. And here's the other thing that 123 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 2: you don't realize because you haven't rewatched Defenders in a while. 124 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: This cast has actually great chemistry. The chemistry is actually 125 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: really good, okay, And there's an actual effective arc of 126 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of street level characters. Finn Jones, Danny Randyron, 127 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: Mike Colter, the Daddy, Licious, Luke Cage, Charlie Cox. Of course, 128 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: you're loner, in the streets, Daredevil, Kristin Riddard, Jessica Jones, 129 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: Colleen Wing, Jessica Henwick, Claire Temple, Rosari Dawson, all these folks. 130 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: They're not used to working together, and this show does 131 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: a really really effective job at showing how not comfortable 132 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: they are Throughout most of these fights. There's some wonderful 133 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: back and forth about why Charlie Cox Matthew Murdoch aka 134 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: Daredevil is the only guy in this entire group as 135 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: they fight ninjas to wear a mask. Everybody else's face listening, 136 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: show your face, Daredevil, what's the issue? This is a 137 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: wonderful show on the rewatch and even the stuff that 138 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: you don't like, Finn Jones, the hand is overpowered by 139 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: the truly wonderful chemist of these actors and this group. 140 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: And let me say again, because you know about Daredevil 141 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: on Netflix, the incredible action scenes that you find there, 142 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: you know about the Punisher of the brutality on Netflix, 143 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: the kind of brutal action scenes that you see here 144 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: The Defenders gives you that. It gives you that, and again, 145 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: it gives you that once per episode. And it's not 146 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: just the kind of Daredevil action scenes in which you 147 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: know these kind of one shot you know, au tour 148 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: bait shots of Daredevil just by himself taking on five guys. 149 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: This is a group of heroes and the synergy between them, 150 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: you see, the kind of like budding cooperation start to 151 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: happen as they all come to realize what their own 152 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: powers are. There's a wonderful sequence that stretches from episode 153 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: four to five in which are heroes on the run 154 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: from a big fight end up in a Chinese restaurant 155 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: fighting more guys than a super assassin drops in. That's 156 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: to start episode five. Now this fight is bridging two episodes, 157 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: and as the gunmen show up outside and begin riddling 158 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: the place with bullets, Luke Cage shields them with his body. 159 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: Is the first time a lot of these characters are 160 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: seeing this, and that's cool. There are these cool hidden 161 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: moments that are one wonderful people out to harken to 162 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: what this show could be if it is rebooted. Thank 163 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: you for your time. 164 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: Wow, those are some great opening arguments. I'm not sure 165 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: where I stand just yet. I think we've got a 166 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: lot to consider from both sides. So let's take a 167 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: quick break, but don't go anywhere. When we come back, 168 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: the judges will get to ask each panelist to follow 169 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 4: up question, and we'll hear closing statements from Jason and 170 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 4: Rosie before final deliberations. 171 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 5: We'll be right back. 172 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: Wow, we laid some spice out on the table. I 173 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: am considering some things I hadn't thought about before, the 174 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: idea of what makes a good team rewatch, the idea 175 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 4: of in the large, hours and hours long cannon of Marvel, 176 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 4: what is skippable and what should absolutely be reserved for 177 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: its artistic integrity. 178 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: Oh man, we have a lot of thoughts here. Rosie. 179 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: You had some really beautiful points, but then you mentioned Harry. 180 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 5: Styles and I snagged. I snagged a bit. 181 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 4: We're really struggling overall with the cohesion of Marvel at 182 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 4: this point, and I don't think this film helped we 183 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: get so many new characters. 184 00:11:59,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: It's a little bit. 185 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: Using a chaotic What would you say to somebody who 186 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 4: is like Rosier get that it's beautiful, But at what 187 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: I came here for is marvel greatness, which means fight 188 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 4: scenes and glossy costumes, and I felt it lacked. Why 189 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: should I give my time to this film? 190 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: If you're worried about the cohesion. 191 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 3: While it is true that Marvel does have an issue 192 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: right now, especially with introducing characters that we probably won't 193 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: see again, like the version of Hercules from thor Love 194 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 3: and Thunder or Harry Styles, what this movie does have 195 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 3: is a giant eternal in the ocean called Tiamut. And 196 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: that giant eternal, we've all been saying, guys, when are 197 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: they going to bring it up? We're covering sheeholk, We're like, 198 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: when are they going to bring it up? They bring 199 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: it up on a you know, internet side easter egg. 200 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: But Captain America Brave New. 201 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: World is coming out thirty seconds and when. 202 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 3: That movie comes out, you will need to know about 203 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: Tiamut because that is where we are going to put 204 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: your spoilers on. If you don't want to know, discover 205 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 3: Adamantium in the MCU, which will be a huge moment 206 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: for both the X Men, Captain America and the MCU 207 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: as a whole. So I say that while it may 208 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 3: just be one giant eternal in the ocean, that is 209 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: a connectivity that you must know before going into a 210 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: Brave New Wow. 211 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 4: Thank you, Rosie, listen, uh listeners. I just want to 212 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: let you know that we are recording this before Brave 213 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: New World. So if Rosie's argument does not stand after that, 214 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: but it's. 215 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: Not her fault, all right. The trailers led us to believe. 216 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: Okay, So I don't want to hear your slander, all right, 217 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 4: So with that in mind, we're taking it over to Jason. 218 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: Jason had some good thoughts here, all right. He said, 219 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 4: forget about the white Ninjas, all right. We acknowledged the 220 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 4: Gordy Weafer is a little strange. 221 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: There's the boss, white ninja. The Boss is a white ninja. 222 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: The rank and file are Asian ninjas as. 223 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 4: Star Yes, okay, Well, I would like to know, similarly 224 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: to my question for Rosie, I have many, many, many, 225 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: many many many hours of Netflix television to watch. I 226 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 4: could be watching the greatest season of television, maybe ever, 227 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: Season one of Jessica Jones. I could be enjoying Hollway 228 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: fight scenes. Okay, but you said go check out the Defenders. 229 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: I'd like you to expand a little bit on what 230 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: makes them a team worth tuning into. 231 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: The fights are great, their powers work great together. You 232 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: know why is a Reese's peanut butter cup good? It's 233 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: just chocolate and peanut butter, because chocolate and peanut butter. 234 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: You put them together, and something else happens. You put 235 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: these characters together, you've got the kind of will they 236 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: won't day of Jessica and Luke. You've got the I did. 237 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: I'm not used to working with other people unless it's 238 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: in a courtroom with Matthew Murdoch. You've got Jessica Jones, 239 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: who similarly is a solo piece who's now romantic life 240 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: is intersecting with this. You've got Finn Jones, who all 241 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: I will say, iron fist all throughout this this story 242 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: is being interrogated about why he is iron fist, which, 243 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: by the way, Marvel, if you want to get to me, 244 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: I have a good pitch on how you could actually 245 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: do a white iron fist. I don't think you should 246 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: an Oh but here's the thing. The fight again, and 247 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: I can't struss this enough. You mentioned the hallway fight 248 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: scene of Daredevil. The fights are great. They're great. 249 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: Okay, we're tuning in for fight scenes and epic connections. 250 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: The will lays, won't theyse? I appreciate it. 251 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 5: So Aaron, it's time for you to ask some questions. 252 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: So Jason, as you're saying This has incredible fight scenes. 253 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: This has great chemistry between these characters. One of the 254 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: things I'm worried about as a rewatch, I don't want 255 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: to have to rewatch two seasons of Daredevil, two seasons 256 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: of Jessica Jones, one season of Luke Cage, and one 257 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: season of Iron Fist just to get to this. Is 258 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: this team up show accessible if I haven't seen the 259 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: prerequisite things at all or in a very long time. 260 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, you know that. You know the basics. 261 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 3: Right. 262 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Here's the thing about a rewatch? Why are we Why 263 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: are we letting ourselves be caged by these rules? Like 264 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: I have to know all the stuff that happened before. 265 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: I have to watch forty eight episodes of television to 266 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: get to this, I have to watch every single second 267 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: and minute of this season that I am now rewatching. Now, man, 268 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: just fast forward to the fights. You're good, Well, you 269 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: know what do you need more than that? We all 270 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: we we're busy people. The soul is falling apart. You 271 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: just have a few minutes. You want to get that 272 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 2: dopamine hit and feel great. Fast forward to the Defender 273 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: fights and watch them. They are good period, well choreographed, 274 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: well executed, brutal, good hits, good stunt work. 275 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: They are I see my. 276 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 6: Time, my point, all right, Rosie, my question for you. 277 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Jason pointed out one of the great things about Defenders, 278 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: the sparkling chemistry between these main characters, watching Matt and 279 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Jessica interact with each other, watching Jessica interact with Luke, 280 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: watching Luke interact with Iron Fist, not to mention Colleen 281 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: Wing like, there are side characters upon side characters, and 282 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: the return of fan favorite Elodie Young as Electra, which 283 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: was barely even brought up in Jason's argument. I don't 284 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: mean to do his job for him. But my question 285 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: for the eternals, this movie is big. This movie introduces 286 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: us to ten main characters, three new characters that, as 287 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: you mentioned, who knows if they go anywhere? Four I 288 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: guess if you include Blade's detached voice. Is this movie 289 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: so big that I have to pay attention the whole 290 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: time and I can't sort of fade in and out 291 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: of my rewatch. 292 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: No, in fact, and this is a classic me and Jason, 293 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: the situation that we've gotten ourselves into here. I agree 294 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: with Jason about The Defenders. I think he's got the 295 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: right idea. And I'm gonna tell you something, guys. The 296 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: Eternals is a great movie. I love it, but it's long. 297 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: The MCU loves to make a long movie. This movie 298 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: has lots of characters, but you know what it has 299 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: within that unbelievable chemistry between certain characters. Now, Gemma Chann 300 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 3: and Richard Madden first sex scene in the MCU, are 301 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: you feeling the chemistry popping off them? Not really, but. 302 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: You know who? 303 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: Fast forward it baby, any scene don Ley and Angelina 304 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: Jolie together, Oh my god, guild them that you want 305 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: to be there with them. As I said before, Barry 306 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: Kewen and Lauren Ridlock, that shit is so spicy and 307 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 3: fiery and fun to see, like a death super hair 308 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: out with how kind of cocky boyfriend. So if we're 309 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: on a rewatch thing and you just want to see 310 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 3: the best moments for a channels, you too, can't. 311 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 2: Use your foss forwards. 312 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: Amazing Oh Disney plus wow. 313 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, So Aaron, this is really interesting what I'm 314 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: hearing is And I don't know if this makes an 315 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 4: argument for you, but both of these can be watched 316 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: as second screen entertainment, which does have its values. 317 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 5: It listens. 318 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes I want to be on my phone and passively 319 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 4: watching a TV show. But what I'm listening to the 320 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 4: arguments for why you should we watch this? How does 321 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: this a docs a teal for it is as it's 322 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: not as important? How do you lookcause you said you 323 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 4: said you would prefer your rewatches to be second screen entertainment. 324 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: You know what? I think that because they both argued 325 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: from the same point. I'm not going to dock either 326 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: of them for that, because both of them said, this 327 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: is something where we can selectively see moments of the 328 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: movie or the show that we really enjoyed, and they 329 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: both brought up particularly memorable scenes, at least for me, 330 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I love the Chinese food restaurant scene and Defenders, I 331 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: love the meal scene at Theena and Gilgamesh's in eternals 332 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: with Kingo and his cameraman hanging out there. Both are 333 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: great scenes. So I will happily accept both of them 334 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: pitching their rewatched property as something that I will not 335 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: one hundred percent two eyes be rewatching the entire time. 336 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: So let's go to our closing statements. Rosie, you introed first, 337 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: so I think Jason does his closing statement first. So Jason, 338 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: you have one minute on the clock whenever you're ready. 339 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: As we were recording this, the new Thunderbolt trailer has 340 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: recently dropped, and in it, Yolena says of this new team, 341 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: none of us can fly. None of us are heroes. 342 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 2: We just kick and punch. The Defenders did it first, 343 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: and in The Defenders a show that it is admittedly imperfect, 344 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: the things that work work so well that when you 345 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: rewatch this show, you will be saying to yourself, I 346 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: can't wait for them to retry that idea in something else. 347 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: Street Level is something that Marvel doesn't have a lot 348 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: of content about right now, but they have a vast 349 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 2: history of it in their comics. If they can apply 350 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: some of the good stuff from Defenders, which is amazing, 351 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: the fights, the chemistry, et cetera to their new stuff, 352 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: you're gonna see something wonderful and you receee it. In 353 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Defenders first. 354 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 5: Rosie final statement, I. 355 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: Think I have pretty much exhausted my love for the 356 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: Eternals throughout the years on this podcast and in this argument, 357 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: I have highlighted the moments, so I'm gonna say, look, 358 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: you know what the Etunnals has that none of the 359 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: other movies have it has that sex scene and Chloe 360 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: Shao shoots that sex scene where you can see Richard 361 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: Madden and his hips moving like you can feel the 362 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: impact of the stroke. 363 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: You're never gonna get that in an. 364 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: MCU movie ever again. 365 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: That shit is crazy. We say that in the cinema 366 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: and you could see it and. 367 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 7: We were like, oh my god, this is happening. 368 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, look, you don't want to watch that titles, 369 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: that's your loss. 370 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: I love this movie. 371 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 7: I'm wearing a titles t shot, but you are never 372 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 7: gonna get an our house sex scene like that in 373 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 7: an MCU movie ever again. And even in the Defenders 374 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 7: and Indesica journs, that's a much more dynamic action pack, 375 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 7: like fucking this is like I loved you for a 376 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 7: thousand years. Feel like. 377 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: Wow, I thought Jason had slam dunked it in his 378 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 4: final statement and then here emerges Rosie, which stroke game 379 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 4: so good you could feel it. 380 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: I was not the good. 381 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to ads real quick. We will be 382 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: right back with our judges deliberation. All right, Joelle, So 383 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: we've heard the closing arguments, we've heard the answers, to 384 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: our questions, and we've heard their opening statements. How are 385 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: you feeling right now? Which of these two things are 386 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: you most likely to go rewatch this evening? 387 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: I will tell you at the start of this it 388 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: was gonna be like I was like, well, Defenders is 389 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: what I would put in. I'm not a fan of 390 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: the eternals. I see and appreciate what Chloe was trying 391 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 4: to do. There are moments that are fun to tune 392 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: into for me, but overall not about it. But Rosie 393 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: argued really well, and now I'm like, maybe what did 394 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: I miss? Which I think is really the calling for 395 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 4: a rewatch? Right You're either rewatching something because you love 396 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 4: it and you want to re experience it, or because 397 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: you may have missed something on the first screening and 398 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 4: you want to make sure that you fully understand and 399 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: appreciate the vision that's been laid out for you. 400 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 5: I'm swaying a little bit. Where are you at, Aaron? 401 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: So I do want to ask you said, Rosie kind 402 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: of changed your mind? Was that your stance before the 403 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: talk of Richard Madden having sex or was that solely 404 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: swayed by that one thirty second bit of the closing statement. 405 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: I will say the reevaluate Disney sexteen was really it's 406 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 4: a draw. But honestly it's her love of Gilgamesh that 407 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: began to sway me, because that's a character you can 408 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: really love so cute in the movie, you're just like wow, uh. 409 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: And I think Anchiley Ujulie is probably one of the 410 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: most compelling elements of this film, and so to reconsider 411 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: that relationship, I was like, maybe that would be I 412 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 4: will also say giant statue in the ocean finally coming out, 413 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 4: you know it's hitting. But then oh, but then Jason 414 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: was like, you know, they're about to redo Defenders with thunderbolts, 415 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: thank you, And I was like, damn, that's a really 416 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: good point too, a thing we've been missing street level. 417 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 5: How about you? Where have you been swayed? Pulled? One way? 418 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: Do you have a So I have not rewatched either 419 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: of these recently, so I am I am due for 420 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: a rewatch of both. I think that when I came 421 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: into this, I was reminding myself what each of these 422 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: properties was, and I will admit I was nervous about 423 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: the idea of Eternals is a big, big movie that 424 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: already exists within a very large universe and attempts to 425 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: make it even larger within the post credits scene, which 426 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: has me nervous because a lot of things this is 427 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,239 Speaker 1: an era right new characters, This is an era of 428 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: Marvel stories where Marvel wanted to have as many side 429 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: tie ins as possible that now are not really doing 430 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: anything coming to Fruition, which is good or bad. But 431 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: I did like Rosie's argument that it's cool to see 432 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: Harry Styles walk out in this outfit, whether or not 433 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: it's ever gonna be anything, and like that's just a 434 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: fun thing. And I will say in Rosie's favor, Barry 435 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: Cue again is my favorite part of that movie, I think, 436 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: and Rosie barely even mentioned him, which is a pretty 437 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: strong argument. That being said for the Defenders. On Jason's side, 438 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Matt and Jessica are my favorite parts of that as 439 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: well as Electra and Jason talked about how great all 440 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: of them looks and the fight scenes, and again, there's 441 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: so many things that I love about the Jessica Jones 442 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: show and the Daredevil show that really are just amped up, 443 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: and they're in Defenders. We all talk about how much 444 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: we love Avengers those movies because it's so fun to 445 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: see a team up of characters we already know and 446 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: care about, So we have to make a choice. Yeah, 447 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: all right, well. 448 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: I think it's a three two one. We just have 449 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: to speak it from the heart. 450 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: I have to just go. 451 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: Internet. Lag be damned. 452 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 5: Here we go three two one. 453 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: Scandalous. 454 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: It's a tie, baby, it's a tie. 455 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: But we can't truly have a tie. So we are 456 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: going to bring in our special guest judge as himself, 457 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: the Dune Weaver. I don't know what the right term 458 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: would be. Superior, mother, superior. 459 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: On the side, help us break this tie? Where who? 460 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 5: Who should we want to watch? What should we watch? 461 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 8: I have been listening on the side, and honestly, hats 462 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 8: off to both panelists. I think both of you made 463 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 8: excellent arguments. I did not watch many of the Defender 464 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 8: shows and I did not watch Defenders, and I've only 465 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 8: seen Eternals once, and I came into today's arguments kind 466 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 8: of leaning Rosie. In fact, I quite blatantly told Rosie 467 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 8: before this recording that I love Eternals almost as much 468 00:27:55,280 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 8: as she did. So very clear, however, the basis of 469 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 8: both arguments appeared to be second screen watching, and if 470 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 8: that's the case Eternals, it's not a movie I want 471 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 8: to be watching with my phone or my steam deck 472 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 8: or whatever also in front of me. I want to 473 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 8: be locked into Eternals to fully appreciate it. So I'm 474 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 8: going to go Defenders. 475 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 7: Wow where where you know what. 476 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,959 Speaker 3: I appreciate not only the chance to once again argue 477 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 3: my love for the Eternals, but also the spectacular judging 478 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 3: panel we have and of course, as always my co 479 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: host and. 480 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: We're not of this debate, Jason. 481 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: It feels wonderful. And I'll tell you this, I'm going 482 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: to go directly from this Internet meeting to my Disney 483 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: Plus platform where I'm going to watch Richard Matten. Yes, 484 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: pump that thing, don't watch it. It's so I'm gonna 485 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: see was that hotter than I remember? Hold on a second, 486 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: And that's because it was. 487 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 5: That's the problem. 488 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: I think it's just too intense, like it feels. Really 489 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: is that intense? Is that the intense penetration of Richard 490 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 2: Madden in the Eternals that I'm watching? And did I 491 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: miss that? The first time I want to watch that 492 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 2: cosmic penetration happens. And that's because of the argument that 493 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: you made today, Rose. 494 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm so honest. 495 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: If that is my legacy in this world and in 496 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 3: this fun new segment, then I will be on it. 497 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: Everybody go watch that we'd seen. 498 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to your wrong friend 499 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: with X ray vision. I have been Finn Jones's agent 500 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Kaufman, and. 501 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 3: I have been apparently the promoter of the sex scene 502 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: in a Tunnels. So please Disney Plus give me that 503 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: jump you want to talk sex scenes in a Tunnels, 504 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm here for it. The official etinal sex scene Poke 505 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: Coast coming soon from my computer. 506 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: Limited run. Not a full series though, yeah yeah, mini 507 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: series three, episodes three. 508 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: Here's my Here is how Iron Fist could have worked. 509 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Danny Rand becomes Iron Fist and central to the story 510 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: as he merges and becomes aware of all the other 511 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: iron Fists that have come before him throughout time, his 512 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: inadequacy to the role, and you make the emotional engine 513 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: of that show, Danny Rand trying to process the fact 514 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 2: that he is a white iron Fist, and then at 515 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: the end of the series he dies and an Asian 516 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: iron Fist takes over. Jessica Henwick, Colleen Wing, perfect, Jason, 517 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: that's it. 518 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 5: Number one call him. That's it's time. 519 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: I'm stunning. I have Jel Monique, this was amazing. Let 520 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 4: us know how you guys felt about your wrong friend. 521 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: What else should we debate? Send it in, let us know. 522 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 5: And we'll see you guys next week. 523 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 2: Bye bye X ray Vision is hosted by Jason steps 524 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: Young and Rosie Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast. 525 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 526 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar. 527 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Laurent, Dian Jonathan and Fay Wax. 528 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 529 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 530 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman and 531 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator.