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Speaker 1: our flag here on the Big Red Rage, regal and
Speaker 1: majestic and its splendor, Ron Wolfley, it flies half staff
Speaker 1: tonight in honor of a season that has passed. Now.
Speaker 1: It lived a life longer than any season before it
Speaker 1: since two thy fifteen. But the end, the very end,
Speaker 1: was abrupt and grizzly. It wasn't a matter of what
Speaker 1: the eleven wins. The playoff spot. It was a matter
Speaker 1: of how how you got there, how you suffered losses
Speaker 1: in five of the last six. So maybe at some
Speaker 1: point here, you know, we're all gonna put the rage
Speaker 1: into Big Red Rage tonight. And that's okay because you
Speaker 1: know what, in my book, it just means we care. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're invested. It's you know, you don't want the apathy, Okay.
Speaker 1: So so that's my piece here off the top of
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage, brought to you by Santan Ford
Speaker 1: and Gilbert. We are Santan four. Now my game plan says,
Speaker 1: it's Ron Wolfley's job to bring some big red perspective
Speaker 1: and analysis. Yeah, you know what, honestly, PAULI right now,
Speaker 1: seven and oh happened as well. Seven and oh happened,
Speaker 1: and ten and two happened. And that's the part that
Speaker 1: gets me, Paul, That is the part. I think it
Speaker 1: is the expectation that I allowed myself to have when
Speaker 1: they were ten and two and it had the best
Speaker 1: record in the National Football League. I think it was
Speaker 1: the expectation that I allowed myself to have looking at
Speaker 1: that team and Kyler Murray and how Kyler Murray was playing.
Speaker 1: Just the fact too that you miss Kyler Murray for
Speaker 1: three games along with DeAndre Hopkins, and yet there you
Speaker 1: were at ten and two. Man, its just it's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to think of and then see the way
Speaker 1: that season ended. Yeah, that's perfectly acceptable. You raise your
Speaker 1: expectations at that point. Not only were you ten and
Speaker 1: two and atop all the power polls, you were one
Speaker 1: of two teams along with Buffalo, to spend the entire
Speaker 1: season at that point top five and scoring offense, top
Speaker 1: five and scoring defense. You were seven and o on
Speaker 1: the road, and every win on the road was by
Speaker 1: double digits. Yes, so there was a lot to celebrate
Speaker 1: and there was a lot to get excited about it
Speaker 1: and bolster those expectations as to what might be coming
Speaker 1: in January. So it was the December. It was the
Speaker 1: January that once again is so confounding that it has
Speaker 1: everyone in the red seat asking a two word question,
Speaker 1: what happened? What happened? Paul? Honestly, right now, and I
Speaker 1: think you've got to highlight this once again, you really do,
Speaker 1: because honestly, right now, if you would have told me
Speaker 1: the Cardinals would have got out to a good start
Speaker 1: on the season, I'm not going to throw out any numbers,
Speaker 1: just a good start, and then they had a five hundred,
Speaker 1: had a five hundred finish down the stretch the second
Speaker 1: half of the season right there. You know, honestly, Paul,
Speaker 1: if you won eleven games and finished eleven and six,
Speaker 1: what would we all have said, Oh, my goodness, this
Speaker 1: is just fantastic the way they went ahead, won five
Speaker 1: games the first year of Cliff Kingsbury and then eight games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they folded down the stretch. But you know what, now,
Speaker 1: they won eleven games the third season. If they won
Speaker 1: eleven games again out of the postseason, we wouldn't be
Speaker 1: talking like we are now. The problem is they were
Speaker 1: ten and two. It happened. They were ten and two
Speaker 1: and then went one in five, including the playoff game,
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Once again, my thesis statement off the top,
Speaker 1: it's not the what, it's the how. Yes, it's how
Speaker 1: you got there. It's it's that feeling everyone had in
Speaker 1: La we were there and JJ Watt, let's just say,
Speaker 1: he vocalized it. He capsualized it, and you know what,
Speaker 1: he didn't mince any words when he gave his assessment
Speaker 1: on twenty twenty one. It was a massive failure. I mean,
Speaker 1: from what we were capable of doing and from what
Speaker 1: we showed we can do to what to today. There's
Speaker 1: no other way to describe it than as a failure. Paully.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, I have to tell you right now.
Speaker 1: When I heard that, it gave me hope. It really did.
Speaker 1: Is down in the dumps. And you know I was
Speaker 1: down in the dumps as down in the dumps as
Speaker 1: I was when I heard J. J. Watt characterize it
Speaker 1: as a massive failure. I actually add hope, because Paully,
Speaker 1: the first thing you've got to fix, you cannot fix
Speaker 1: unless you tell the truth. You have to tell the truth,
Speaker 1: and you have to characterize it. You know me, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm a big Nights Templar guy. I really am right.
Speaker 1: But Paul, I've told you this many times. They believe
Speaker 1: tough started with terminology. What you called things, or what
Speaker 1: you said about things, or how you characterize things. It
Speaker 1: mattered to the templars. And I think the blatant truth
Speaker 1: about one in five and the one in five finish
Speaker 1: culminating on Monday night. You gotta call it what it is.
Speaker 1: And J. J. Watt did that, and that makes me
Speaker 1: think if you can tell the truth about what happened.
Speaker 1: Now you can go ahead and fix it. You can
Speaker 1: confront it, and you can fix it, but you gotta
Speaker 1: start by saying what is true and what happened. If
Speaker 1: you put a thought bubble over his head while he
Speaker 1: held that press conference, I think it would have said
Speaker 1: something along lines of I I just cut my timeline
Speaker 1: from this massive shoulder injury and half to come back
Speaker 1: for this. You know, it's just it was just abject
Speaker 1: frustration obviously on the part of JJ Watt. And you know,
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of different theories. I advanced some
Speaker 1: of them in Cardinals Underground, but off row this one
Speaker 1: out here before we hear from Kyler Marie. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Darren Urban is going to be our guest
Speaker 1: on this edition of The Big Red Raid. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it will get in depth there, believe me. But here's
Speaker 1: a quick theory. Because we did all these Cardinals folk tales,
Speaker 1: and we went back to the two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: regular season, and we did the snow Game and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals in the state of the Cardinals before they went
Speaker 1: into that two thousand and eight playoff run all the
Speaker 1: way to Super Bowl forty three and now, the comment
Speaker 1: from Chris Collinsworth the worst playoff team in the history
Speaker 1: of the postseason, et cetera. We remember all that, But
Speaker 1: what I did not remember were some of the comments
Speaker 1: from Kurt Warner at the time about how he had
Speaker 1: to battle his own locker room to let these guys
Speaker 1: know that making the playoffs is not the end goal.
Speaker 1: Making a run in the playoffs is the end goal.
Speaker 1: And he said that was a byproduct of a team
Speaker 1: of a roster that had not been to the postseason
Speaker 1: in quite a long time. Well, the Cardinals just ended
Speaker 1: the longest NFC playoff drought at six years, from two
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty twenty one. And the only working theory
Speaker 1: I have that's really feasible and plausible is that perhaps
Speaker 1: at ten and two, Ron Wolfley everybody said, yeah, we
Speaker 1: just checked the main box, the main objective this year,
Speaker 1: which was to make the playoffs, take that next step
Speaker 1: in this progression, and then all of a sudden they
Speaker 1: lost that edge. That's the only thing I can truly
Speaker 1: think of that might set because it happened before, and
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner had to fight against that in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight season and then literally take that team
Speaker 1: by the nose and lead them on a playoff run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's why, Paul two though, I was
Speaker 1: hoping for the reset. But no, I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: maybe they took their foot off the gas, that maybe
Speaker 1: human nature took over and maybe they got a little complacent.
Speaker 1: I know that. Hey, listen, ten and two. It happened.
Speaker 1: It was real. We all saw it. They were the
Speaker 1: best team in the league after three months of the
Speaker 1: season and then they just fell apart. There has to
Speaker 1: be something something you could point to, something that is
Speaker 1: tangible and say this is what happened. Maybe you're right
Speaker 1: about that, Paul, I don't know. And look, I'm like
Speaker 1: you a week ago at this time on this very show,
Speaker 1: I fully expected the Cardinals to flip that switch. Was
Speaker 1: going to be the playoffs, yes, and they were going
Speaker 1: to have that same energy and intensity and edge about
Speaker 1: them that they had to start the first two thirds
Speaker 1: of this season, especially on the road when it's them
Speaker 1: against the world. And we did not see the same
Speaker 1: team that we saw that started ten and two. And
Speaker 1: after the game, after the playoff loss thirty four eleven
Speaker 1: in La, Kyler Murray was was asked about well, the
Speaker 1: immediate future, the near future. Here's Kyler. I haven't really
Speaker 1: thought about the future or anything like that, trying to
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, soak all this in. Um, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of motions, Um, you know, proud of the team,
Speaker 1: probably the way we fought, a lot of disappointment of
Speaker 1: failure to end the season. But there's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: to build up as well. And look, Kyler and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals were not their best in prime time. They went
Speaker 1: over four in prime time, whether it was Thursday nights,
Speaker 1: Sunday night, whether it was day night football, oh for
Speaker 1: four And you know what, Kyler and those four games
Speaker 1: combined had one touchdown pass and six interceptions. Now, a
Speaker 1: couple of those games were tight. In fact, a lot
Speaker 1: of those games. The Green Bay game was tight. The
Speaker 1: Rams game was tight in Week fourteen, obviously after they
Speaker 1: got that on side kick and they took it down
Speaker 1: to the wire. The Colts game was tight for most
Speaker 1: of the game. But once again, Kyler and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were certainly not at their best in prime time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, Paully. Honestly though, when I think of
Speaker 1: prime time, I get what you're saying. The national audience
Speaker 1: and everything. I didn't think that was what Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: was going to suddenly look like the Kyler Murray we
Speaker 1: all know and the way that he can play. To me,
Speaker 1: it was the moment, it was. It was the fact
Speaker 1: that it was the playoffs, that it was one in done,
Speaker 1: a one in don scenario, and that's why I fully
Speaker 1: expected him to come out and light the lamp. That didn't. Yeh.
Speaker 1: He made plays we hadn't seen since his rookie year.
Speaker 1: And that's that's just a fact, Hay. To catch up
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Speaker 1: Darren Urban is up next? Do you think we have questions?
Speaker 1: Absolutely the Cardinals inside or on acy Cardinals dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring some answers next. The Big Red Rage
Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Murry back to throw
Speaker 1: on second and nine in trouble, moves to his left,
Speaker 1: being chased by Bosa, now throws it deep across the
Speaker 1: field near side, just falling at the ten and tackled
Speaker 1: at the nine yard line. Kyler Murray threw that ball
Speaker 1: outside the numbers on the far side to the near
Speaker 1: sideline five twenty ago. Cardinals lead ten to seven. Can
Speaker 1: they put them away? Can they get a touchdown? Snap
Speaker 1: the Kyler? He throws a fade left side in the
Speaker 1: end zone and in his card Bird put down the
Speaker 1: hop bought it with Josh Norman draped all over and
Speaker 1: trying to pull the ball away. What a great catch
Speaker 1: by DeAndre Hopkins. Broke the sickles out on the fade
Speaker 1: and staffed the pig up the air and brought it
Speaker 1: in man. At some point, when you've got dudes who
Speaker 1: are just better than the other team, that's enough. I've
Speaker 1: the good old days, Week five at home home win
Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, when you had the dynamic
Speaker 1: duel of Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: the nine yard touchdown just over five minutes to go
Speaker 1: after the thirty yard reception, and then the Cardinals got
Speaker 1: the ball back with Fort's wold to play. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the quick game summary notes here, and they ran
Speaker 1: out the clock to end the game seventeen ten. They
Speaker 1: beat the forty nine ers to go five and oh
Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen seventy four. But what's interesting,
Speaker 1: Wolf is after the game a couple of quotes, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray called the offensive formance ugly. It was winning football,
Speaker 1: but it was ugly, man. And as the season went on,
Speaker 1: other guys noted that, you know what, there were mistakes
Speaker 1: when they went seven to No. Ten and two, But
Speaker 1: maybe they got glossed over a little bit because after
Speaker 1: the game Kyler said something that now proves to be
Speaker 1: a little cryptic when his quote was you can't get
Speaker 1: bored with winning. You can't get bored of doing the
Speaker 1: little things right. That was Kyler Murray postgame week five. Wow, Bally,
Speaker 1: So intriguing, is it not? Yeah, there's no done about
Speaker 1: it. It It really is right here. They've got to answer
Speaker 1: some of these questions going forward, and that certainly is
Speaker 1: one of them. What happened, especially down the stretch. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's been trying to answer questions in his mailbag at
Speaker 1: Acy Cardinals dot com is Darren Urban, the longtime Cardinals
Speaker 1: insider who joins us now. Darren, thank thanks for your
Speaker 1: time here in the Big Red Rage, brought to you
Speaker 1: by santan Ford and Gilbert. How has it been, you know,
Speaker 1: how's your mental health after dealing with the mail bag
Speaker 1: this week. Guys, how you doing? My mental health is fine.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the season was going to end
Speaker 1: at some point. Uh. You know, obviously everybody's hoping that
Speaker 1: it's gonna be after the super Bowl. But uh, you know,
Speaker 1: our our jobs go on. Uh. That's part of it,
Speaker 1: you know, for me. Uh, and that's part of it
Speaker 1: for the players too. I mean, uh, you're now on
Speaker 1: the point where, okay, it's over. Um, just like the
Speaker 1: one week at a time thing of the season where
Speaker 1: you know, it's it doesn't pay a whole lot to
Speaker 1: look back. It pays to look forward. I think the
Speaker 1: players now kind of have to refocus on, Okay, what
Speaker 1: what do we do going forward? Rather than looking back.
Speaker 1: But obviously it was a disappointing end of the season.
Speaker 1: I mean there's no way of getting around that. And
Speaker 1: you know, I I you know, you you listen to J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt right after the games, Uh, sit up there at
Speaker 1: the podium and say called it a massive failure. And
Speaker 1: and because Kingsbury wasn't going to go there. Uh And
Speaker 1: and that might have been in the emotion of the moment,
Speaker 1: but it pretty much encapsulated how everybody was feeling that night.
Speaker 1: I think it so DRB. How do you fix this?
Speaker 1: And you started, you know, I want to hear your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Wolf. Honestly, you know difficult, isn't it? I mean,
Speaker 1: where do you begin on this? Well? How do you
Speaker 1: how do you diagnose it first before you fix it?
Speaker 1: What is the problem? Because DJ Humphrey said this week
Speaker 1: it was Monday, It was Tuesday after the game and
Speaker 1: he was asked about he said, well, when you lose
Speaker 1: that many games, you lost something. What is something? You know?
Speaker 1: That's a great question that Paul, you and I were
Speaker 1: talking about it on our podcast this week. I mean,
Speaker 1: there were some people that kind of analyze the numbers
Speaker 1: that we're saying that some of the success they were
Speaker 1: having early in the season was not sustainable and a
Speaker 1: and a very basic example, and again I brought this
Speaker 1: up with you, Paul, but Wolf, I mean, how many
Speaker 1: times early in the season, especially did they score a
Speaker 1: touchdown or get a first down when it was third
Speaker 1: and twelve, third and fourteen, third and sixteen. It seemed
Speaker 1: like they were doing it every single time they were
Speaker 1: in one of those situations. And that's not something you're
Speaker 1: going to be able to pull off for a seventeen
Speaker 1: game season, and that's that's one example. I think the
Speaker 1: penalties got a little bit worse. There's no question the
Speaker 1: injuries hurt them, and clearly I think some of the
Speaker 1: player regressed, and some of that is the quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you go into a playoff game and the coach
Speaker 1: says that the quarterback is going to have his, hopefully
Speaker 1: his best game of the year, and Kyler then talks
Speaker 1: about being raised to be that kind of player, You're
Speaker 1: you're really hoping that he plays better than he did,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. You know, when it comes to total
Speaker 1: wins without d Hop, Kyler and Colt McCoy tied, they
Speaker 1: both had two. Kyler won two out of seven games
Speaker 1: without d Hop, coult McCoy won two out of three.
Speaker 1: So something happened. Now you still have a quarterback who's
Speaker 1: going to the Pro Bowl, obviously, And after the game,
Speaker 1: zach Ertz actually the next day meeting the media and
Speaker 1: he was asked about twenty four year old Kyler Murray
Speaker 1: and what he sees. Kyler is the most talented player
Speaker 1: I've ever been around, and I think the sky is
Speaker 1: the limit for him. I mean, if he didn't get
Speaker 1: hurt this year, he's probably winning the MVP. And if
Speaker 1: you have an MVP caliber quarterback, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: chance to win a Super Bowl. He puts so much
Speaker 1: pressure on himself to be great, to win football games,
Speaker 1: to play great, And that's why I think guys love
Speaker 1: playing for him. Can I throw out a quick analogy
Speaker 1: and you guys can agree with disagree, and I know
Speaker 1: you will. Here we go, Lamar Jackson. Did Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: not have a miserable playoff game or two at the
Speaker 1: beginning of his career and then rebound and win an
Speaker 1: MVP plus a postseason game or two? But didn't the
Speaker 1: very beginning of Lamar Jackson of playoff football was ugly?
Speaker 1: Was it not? Yes? And a lot of people wondered, Okay,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, how viable is this guy long term?
Speaker 1: Has the NFL figured out Lamar Jackson? It's it's a
Speaker 1: lot of the same blowback we're hearing now with Kyla Murray.
Speaker 1: Every quarterback is different. But yeah, well, if I throw
Speaker 1: that to you, and you know, obviously Lamar Jackson had
Speaker 1: to evolve his game. Is the ball now in Kyler's core? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And hopefully the good news
Speaker 1: here is that Kyler Murray is going to embrace the
Speaker 1: fact that he's not a finished product and he's got
Speaker 1: to get better. I fully expect him to embrace that
Speaker 1: and to get better whatever it may be in his preparation.
Speaker 1: Get better on the field, get better with decisions, get
Speaker 1: better with reading coverage, whatever it may be. PAULI, I mean,
Speaker 1: I believe Kyler is that type of individual. Let's hope
Speaker 1: that he is and he embraces the process of getting
Speaker 1: better right now, and I fully expect him to do that, Paul.
Speaker 1: The one area I will say the one thing, guys,
Speaker 1: when you talk about the Arizona Cardinals, especially this season,
Speaker 1: when you talk about something being unsustainable, think of how
Speaker 1: many times they had leads. They were in the lead
Speaker 1: almost all the time. When you think about it, how
Speaker 1: many games did they actually have to come back in, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Jacksonville they had to come back in that game,
Speaker 1: and I think Houston as well. They got down five
Speaker 1: nothing in that game and had to come But but
Speaker 1: after that, you know, before they went on that's one
Speaker 1: in five streak to win this season, they were all
Speaker 1: about having leads and getting leads, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And then and then as far as the playoff game goes, Darren.
Speaker 1: You know, after the game, Aaron Donald said in a quote,
Speaker 1: I feel like the quarterback wasn't comfortable at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did the Rams just proved to be a really bad
Speaker 1: matchup for Kyler and the Cardinals in hindsight? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean it was a bad matchup potentially in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously they weren't a bad matchup the first
Speaker 1: time they played in the season, when the Cardinals had
Speaker 1: their way with them. Um, now, that was a much
Speaker 1: healthier Cardinals team than down the stretch. And again, not
Speaker 1: gonna go too far in the injuries because every team's
Speaker 1: got him that kind of thing. But you know, obviously
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were missing a piece, especially on offense, that
Speaker 1: meant something. But I agree with you. I don't think
Speaker 1: that Kyler was particularly comfortable in that last game, and
Speaker 1: I do think there was some echo of what he
Speaker 1: felt the first time they played. The first time they
Speaker 1: played the Rams on Monday night at the home game
Speaker 1: where they lost. So you know, I'm very curious to
Speaker 1: see where it goes with the quarterback. I mean, Kyler,
Speaker 1: a lot of eyes are going to be on him.
Speaker 1: I know you were talking about Lamar Jackson. You know
Speaker 1: another guy who played pretty poorly in his first three
Speaker 1: playoff games and two of them were blown out losses
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning, And obviously that turned out okay. Now,
Speaker 1: nobody's saying Kyler Murray is going to be paid Manning
Speaker 1: or even have the playoff success of Lamar Jackson. But
Speaker 1: I do think there's a certain amount of leeway we
Speaker 1: need to give. Now how much more in this in
Speaker 1: the culture that we live in these days, with coaches
Speaker 1: and organizations making quicker changes, I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: you know, I do think that Kyler has shown enough
Speaker 1: that you can feel confident that he has a chance
Speaker 1: to be that guy. But like Will said, I think
Speaker 1: he has to kind of embrace what he went through,
Speaker 1: and I think he's got to. He does have to
Speaker 1: make some changes, I think to get better. I don't
Speaker 1: know what those are exactly. I'm not around him all
Speaker 1: the time. I don't know what he does in the
Speaker 1: offseason and what his preparation is, but I do think
Speaker 1: he could probably do things that not only would help
Speaker 1: his own game, but would help the team around him. Well,
Speaker 1: here's Kyler on the team around him and all the
Speaker 1: impending free agents. That's one of those things that you know,
Speaker 1: hasn't you know, it won't sink in until you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of days or whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully we can get some of those guys back, you know,
Speaker 1: if not all of them. So you know, when you
Speaker 1: build relationships with these guys, that's always the tough part
Speaker 1: about sports, is here one day going the next. So
Speaker 1: I love all those news and look, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of big names. Chandler Jones, James Connor, zach ertz Aj Green,
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Chase Edmonds, Justin Pugh, you know, Jordan Phillips,
Speaker 1: Max Williams, Colt McCoy, Robert Alfred. There's a lot of names,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. And in the next segment
Speaker 1: we'll start getting into some of the running back and
Speaker 1: linebacker questions. But Darren, when it comes to the receivers
Speaker 1: in particular, you know, what do you see in terms
Speaker 1: of weapons, especially at wide out, what do you see
Speaker 1: for Kyler and the Cardinals? Well, I mean, obviously you
Speaker 1: need to get DeAndre Hopkins back, and Cliff Kingsbury did
Speaker 1: say that he felt confident that DeAndre is going to
Speaker 1: be better in the next month or so and he'll
Speaker 1: be ready to go in the offseason to do what
Speaker 1: he needs to do. I mean, I don't know what happens.
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk is a free agent. AJ Green's a free agent.
Speaker 1: I think you might want to get a little bit
Speaker 1: younger and perhaps get something more, a little bit more explosive.
Speaker 1: I could see them, you know, potentially trying to find
Speaker 1: a way to keep Christian Kirk, but maybe finding an
Speaker 1: another young guy to become that number two and be
Speaker 1: a little more explosive. I mean, I do think you
Speaker 1: need to be in a position where you need to
Speaker 1: get some size. If you keep Christian Kirk. You do
Speaker 1: have Rondelle Moore, you like those guys, but you need
Speaker 1: to be in a spot where you have a younger,
Speaker 1: bigger receiver to make some things happen, especially if you
Speaker 1: lose somebody like Hot for a period of time. You
Speaker 1: need to be able to do some of those things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about the tight end position as well, zach Ertz.
Speaker 1: Of course, Max Williams, Derrel Daniels, what do you think
Speaker 1: is going to happen? Here d. I think that's a
Speaker 1: great question. I think zach Ertz guys, I mean, he
Speaker 1: looked like he fit really well out of this offense.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see him be able to stick around.
Speaker 1: But I mean, one of the reasons he wanted out
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia was because they were clearly moving on from him.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons they were going to move
Speaker 1: on from him is because they weren't going to pay him.
Speaker 1: So you wonder what kind of money he's looking for,
Speaker 1: and so I think he'd like to be there. I
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals would love to have him. I think
Speaker 1: the Cardinals would love to keep Max Williams. But again,
Speaker 1: at some point, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: pay everybody. I mean, the cap does go up by
Speaker 1: a significant amount, but you also have a handful of
Speaker 1: guys who are seeing a significant jump in their salaries
Speaker 1: that are going to eat some of that up, whether
Speaker 1: it's DeAndre Hopkins or Buddha Baker, Buddha Baker or even Kyler.
Speaker 1: Kyler's salary jumps. So there's gonna be some things that
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to figure out,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna mean losing out some of the guys
Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna want to keep Oline real quick,
Speaker 1: Darren Oline, So what sort of priority do you think
Speaker 1: that'll be and what sort of changes do you foresee
Speaker 1: up front? I think personally that they're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: to look at least for one guard. I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: they like Rodney Hudson. I think Max Garcia did a
Speaker 1: yeoman's job in there, but he was ultimately their third
Speaker 1: choice to start because they were gonna go with Josh
Speaker 1: Jones and then they ended up going with Justin Murray
Speaker 1: before he got hurt. So I'm thinking they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to upgrade there. And you don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: with Justin Pugh, who's under contract for next year, but
Speaker 1: it's for such a large number that I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's even plausible that they're going to bring him
Speaker 1: back at that So what does he do something with
Speaker 1: his contract? Do they let him go and they go
Speaker 1: get somebody else? I don't know, But I think on
Speaker 1: the offensive line, guard is going to be the number
Speaker 1: one priority, and I think they're gonna want to upgrade
Speaker 1: at least one of those spots. And your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones quickly as well. Chandler is a tough thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels a lot like the Patrick Peterson
Speaker 1: situation of last year. But we'll see. I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: find out what his market is. But if Chandler Jones
Speaker 1: isn't here, you better find a pass rusher. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: right now at twenty three overall, I'm thinking your number
Speaker 1: one want. At least we can argue the needs, but
Speaker 1: the want at twenty three, whether that player is there
Speaker 1: or not, has to be an edge rusher, wouldn't you think?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the clubhouse leader right now? Wolf? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think there's no doubt about it. You've got to
Speaker 1: address that position. It all comes down to what a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are going to be offered from
Speaker 1: other teams, Let's face it. Yeah, I'm thinking either edge
Speaker 1: rusher or perhaps a number one corner at twenty three overall.
Speaker 1: If Byron Murphy can be your number two corner, that
Speaker 1: would be an ideal situation, obviously, But we'll see. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's down the line in April. We still have
Speaker 1: more immediate questions, especially with free agency coming in mid
Speaker 1: March and Darren Urban continues with us here the Cardinals
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Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan four in Gilbert Hurry and the
Speaker 1: gun takes the shot comes then or stand looks now
Speaker 1: backs up, goes office back book one hand and catch
Speaker 1: Connor over in the middle of the ten, inside the
Speaker 1: ten and down in the five yard line for an
Speaker 1: eighteen yard game. What a Grandhabby does it back to
Speaker 1: back weeks with one handed catchet, go, go, gadget staff
Speaker 1: the bag and they run Connor up the middle. He's stuffed,
Speaker 1: but he breaks a tackle and get into the ends
Speaker 1: of for a touchdown. James Connor continues to be one
Speaker 1: of the best free agent signings maybe ever for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go wildcat Jonathan Ward in the backfield with Connor,
Speaker 1: who takes the snap. Connor runs left, He's down to
Speaker 1: the five and keeps defeat moving. James Connor is into
Speaker 1: the end zone for the touchdown. Yeah, arm tackles aren't
Speaker 1: bringing down James Connery. At eighteen total touchdowns this regular season,
Speaker 1: number three in the NFL, fifteen rushing touchdowns number two
Speaker 1: in the NFL for a Cardinals offense that finished tenth
Speaker 1: in rushing overall yards per game. And let's not forget, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: welcome back into the Big Red Rage presented by santan
Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert Yours truly, Paul calvec Ron Wolfley, and
Speaker 1: our special guest, Cardinals insider Darren Urban that the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were nine and oh wolf when they had thirty or
Speaker 1: more rushes in a game. Yeah, you know, honestly, their
Speaker 1: run rate. You know how big I was on that
Speaker 1: for the first half of the season, and actually beyond
Speaker 1: I would say the first twelve thirteen weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: the run rate was right there, top three in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Was pretty incredible for an air raid coach. Ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what sort of priority is James Conner this offseason? Darren?
Speaker 1: I think, I know. It's almost a rhetorical question, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, I would be shocked if
Speaker 1: they didn't want him back. But he just scored eighteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is a team that in the
Speaker 1: not too distant past paid a lot of money to
Speaker 1: a running back and that did not work out very
Speaker 1: well at all, And so I find it hard to
Speaker 1: believe that they're going to be dealing out a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of money for a running back. Now that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean James Connor is going to be asking for what
Speaker 1: David Johnson was asking for once upon a time, or
Speaker 1: he would even get it. But these are the things
Speaker 1: that have to be weighed. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: that gets figured out before free agency actually starts, or
Speaker 1: if we actually have to get to market. But I
Speaker 1: think they absolutely want James connorback, and I think if
Speaker 1: they had their choice, they would probably take them both
Speaker 1: back if the price was right. But again that's the
Speaker 1: big if. And at this point, you know, James Connor
Speaker 1: has already been a free agent once, had to do
Speaker 1: a one year, proved deal here proved it, So he's
Speaker 1: gonna want his one big payday because that's basically where
Speaker 1: he is. And Chase Edmonds might be in a position
Speaker 1: where this is one big payday. So you can't begrudge
Speaker 1: these guys for looking to kind of set themselves up
Speaker 1: when this is their one chance, especially at the position
Speaker 1: they play. But certainly they were both excellent for the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and I do believe one of the reasons that the
Speaker 1: Cardinals struggled so much down the stretch is because they
Speaker 1: ultimately played two games together in the last nine. I
Speaker 1: think it was they played together to obviously that didn't
Speaker 1: go very well, and then they played together in the
Speaker 1: playoff game, even though James Connor was clearly not Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was grimacing every time he came off the field,
Speaker 1: by the way, any at extra patting around his midsection
Speaker 1: to protect those injured ribs. So and then you know,
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake was a great running back upon acquisition and
Speaker 1: then the next year wasn't so great and end up
Speaker 1: leaving for the Raiders. So Wolf, how do you see
Speaker 1: the running back position? Right? Yeah, Paula. You know what,
Speaker 1: though Kenyan Drake can never seem to embody to me
Speaker 1: the physicality and the leadership that the Arizona Cardinals wanted.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Kenyan Drake wasn't a physical player.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he wasn't a good leader. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that James Connor was everything that this team wanted
Speaker 1: to become in the off season, and then he proved
Speaker 1: it on the field in how he played. The physicality
Speaker 1: of James Connor I think changed the team. It changed
Speaker 1: the team, It inspired his teammates that were on the
Speaker 1: sideline watching him play. I think it even altered Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's philosophy. That's just me, Paul. But he wasn't just
Speaker 1: a playmaker. He was a mentality. Yes, he really was
Speaker 1: what JJ Watt was to the defense, you know James
Speaker 1: Connor was to the offense. Yeah, there's no doubt, and
Speaker 1: it jacked everybody up. Darren. My question to you would
Speaker 1: be this right here. Does he want to be paid
Speaker 1: like he's in every down back or is he willing
Speaker 1: to share the backfield? That would be my question to
Speaker 1: James Connor. Well, I mean you just made two different
Speaker 1: questions of the wallfield. Are you saying is he willing
Speaker 1: to share the time or is he want to get
Speaker 1: paid like he's not shamed the time. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think he has no problem sharing the work with Chase Edmonds. Sure,
Speaker 1: But if you're going to tell him we're all going
Speaker 1: to pay you so much because you're sharing the time, yeah,
Speaker 1: then then you're going to have that you might have
Speaker 1: an issue there. Again, I don't. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is going to come down for James Connor to have
Speaker 1: in himself. I need all the carries and I want
Speaker 1: to get paid like that. But if another team comes
Speaker 1: along and says, we are going to give you all
Speaker 1: the carries and Dusty, we're going to pay you X
Speaker 1: amount of dollars, and the Cardinals don't want to go there.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're James Connor, you almost have to leave.
Speaker 1: I mean, running backs in this league have a very
Speaker 1: short shelf life. And let's face it, both these guys
Speaker 1: were banged up. James Connor lasted most of the season,
Speaker 1: but he got hurt, and that was part of the
Speaker 1: issue of why Pittsburgh let him walk away. And as
Speaker 1: much as I think I know I love Chase Edmunds
Speaker 1: and I think you guys really love his game too,
Speaker 1: let's face it, the times when he's really had to
Speaker 1: be used a lot, he's ended up hurt for part
Speaker 1: of the time. So that's something you have to keep
Speaker 1: in mind, not only in terms of how many backs
Speaker 1: you have on your roster to be able to show
Speaker 1: the load, but also when you're paying him James Connor,
Speaker 1: and I have to remind myself of this. He's not
Speaker 1: a thirty plus year old running back either. He's in
Speaker 1: his prime. He's twenty seven years of age, saying with
Speaker 1: Chase's obviously in his prime, just wrapped up his initial
Speaker 1: four year deal. Here's the head coach and play caller,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury on those two running backs set to be
Speaker 1: free agents. Huge fans of both those guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't ask for two guys that work harder, do
Speaker 1: things the right way. You know, they're they're dialed in
Speaker 1: each and every day, and they both earned good deals.
Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I hope that we can
Speaker 1: afford both guys because they both had fantastic seasons and
Speaker 1: they deserve to get nice contracts. But I would love
Speaker 1: to have them both back. I think they compliment each
Speaker 1: other really well. Yeah, and I agree Wolf. I mean
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, you know, once, especially once he realized also
Speaker 1: that James Connor could catch the ball, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: we afually became interchangeable, seriously with Chase Edmonds and James Connor.
Speaker 1: I thought that was absolutely huge. Guys. I just I
Speaker 1: want to reminisce just a little bit. I want to
Speaker 1: go back to when the Arizona Cardinals were subbing and oh,
Speaker 1: go back to the five and oh, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, after five games and looking at Max Williams
Speaker 1: as the tight end. Max Williams and eleven personnel, one back,
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers. When you had DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: you had Aj Green, you had Christian Kirk, you had
Speaker 1: Max Williams as your stud tight end, and then you
Speaker 1: had James Conner and Chase Edmonds. I'm guys right now,
Speaker 1: that to me is when this offense was absolutely at
Speaker 1: its best and rundown situation first and ten, second and
Speaker 1: one to six. And the reason why I say that
Speaker 1: is because they were so balanced. They could use that
Speaker 1: personnel group on first and ten and you had no
Speaker 1: idea if it was going to be a run or
Speaker 1: if it was going to be a pass, and they
Speaker 1: ran the ball in a physical way and they could
Speaker 1: do it with Max Williams as their stud tight end.
Speaker 1: That's a great point, You're right. I mean, how many
Speaker 1: times were they a step ahead of the defense And
Speaker 1: that was when Max Williams was part of their personnel sets.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And then if you flip it, Darren,
Speaker 1: the other big question comes at linebacker. Obviously, where would
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have been on defense without Jordan Hicks? Think
Speaker 1: about that? Think how close he was perhaps to go
Speaker 1: into another team when upon the drafting of Zavin Collins,
Speaker 1: he was told he wouldn't even have a chance at
Speaker 1: that point to compete for his starting spot. Instead, he
Speaker 1: led the team in tackles. Him and Jayleen Thomps are
Speaker 1: right up the top near for the entire season, and
Speaker 1: I mean he was absolutely the beating heart of that defense.
Speaker 1: He wore the green dot. How do you see the
Speaker 1: inside linebacker spot, especially with those two guys joining him,
Speaker 1: former first round picks and Isaiah Simmons and Zavan Collins.
Speaker 1: I think that's something definitely to watch. I mean, for
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks to go from basically hearing that he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to start to asking for a trade to playing
Speaker 1: the most snaps on defense all season is kind of
Speaker 1: an amazing turn of events. But I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, you know, Jordan Hicks was asked the
Speaker 1: other day if he was gonna ask for a trade
Speaker 1: again because he is a contract for another year. He
Speaker 1: said it was too early for him to comment on that.
Speaker 1: He didn't know kind of where everything was going to go. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins did not play a whole lot of defense
Speaker 1: down the stretch, and the last couple times he did play,
Speaker 1: the majority of his snaps were on the outside, and
Speaker 1: we were talking about whether Chandler Jones comes back, Is
Speaker 1: it possible that they think about putting him outside instead.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happened with a Son Reddick. I
Speaker 1: don't know how that's going to go. I mean, even
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, you know, bounce round played a bunch of
Speaker 1: different places. You know, they praised him all season. He
Speaker 1: played a ton of snaps. I didn't think there were
Speaker 1: times when I was watching Isaiah Simmons that I still
Speaker 1: feel like he's still trying to figure out where he
Speaker 1: needs to be in space, sometimes as an inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: But when you spend first round picks on these guys,
Speaker 1: that's that you need something from them, and you need
Speaker 1: something quickly. So you know, do they move on from
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks saying we've got to have these two first
Speaker 1: round picks as or guys. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen, but it's going to be fascinating to watch playouts.
Speaker 1: The one thing I want to see is Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: continue to grow. He was having to me a great
Speaker 1: first half of the season. I don't know about you, Derb,
Speaker 1: how you feel about that, but I thought he was
Speaker 1: having a great first half of the season, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I would say, maybe down the
Speaker 1: last five six games of the season, he just really
Speaker 1: started overrunning a lot of tackles and in the open
Speaker 1: field he looked lost. Now, he made the unbelievable play
Speaker 1: because he's so incredible athletically, made the great play where
Speaker 1: he punched the ball out on Dak Prescott. How big
Speaker 1: of a play that was. But man, he seemed to
Speaker 1: regress to me in the open field in particular over
Speaker 1: the last five or six games. Guys, I just want
Speaker 1: to say this quickly. If I were the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and believe me, vance Joseph in the defense. They know
Speaker 1: way more than I'll ever know, and they're gonna do
Speaker 1: the right thing by Zaiah Simmons. But I just get
Speaker 1: this feeling, guys that I'd love to stick him at
Speaker 1: the weak side linebacker and tell him I want I
Speaker 1: want you to master this position. You know I've been
Speaker 1: talking about this. I know everyone loves to move him around,
Speaker 1: but I want you to master this position. And that
Speaker 1: means taking on fullbacks because he's not afraid. He isn't.
Speaker 1: I think he's his mind has got to be trained
Speaker 1: to be a killer on the inside. It's funny that
Speaker 1: you you bring up how he may have regressed a
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, let's face it, Wolf, you tell
Speaker 1: me who who would you look on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball and not feel that way up? Yeah, yes, No,
Speaker 1: you're right about that. He wasn't alone in that regard.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I'll say this about Zaven Collins too.
Speaker 1: If they bring back Jordan Hicks, Jordan Hicks will beat
Speaker 1: out Zaven Collins again, especially advanced. Joseph is a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident in saying that. It's one thing, Paulie,
Speaker 1: you know what, It's a good point. The one thing
Speaker 1: I don't want to see though, is don't move him
Speaker 1: outside again. I mean, you know, this is Hassan Reddick
Speaker 1: part two. He wasn't even he wasn't even the backup
Speaker 1: to Jordan Hicks this year. I mean, Tanner Vallejo and
Speaker 1: Joe Walker Oh played above Davin Collins. I know, but
Speaker 1: I know this guy's got all sorts of ability as well,
Speaker 1: And sometimes you just gotta throw somebody out there and
Speaker 1: you just got to let him sink or swim, and
Speaker 1: then that's what That's what Jordan Hicks said. Somebody asked
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, if Jordan wasn't around next year, does he
Speaker 1: think Isaiah Simmons and Zaven Collins are ready to be
Speaker 1: those guys? And he basically said, yes, I think they
Speaker 1: can do it. But he went on to say, because
Speaker 1: that's what you drafted him for and at some point
Speaker 1: you just got to stick him out there and they've
Speaker 1: got to get it done. And so maybe that happens,
Speaker 1: Maybe they move on from Jordan Hicks just to force
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins to have to play. I don't know, and
Speaker 1: I don't know how that leads you as a defense.
Speaker 1: All right, Darren, you're on the hook right now. Where
Speaker 1: did the Cardinals go with a twenty third pick? Overall?
Speaker 1: Come on, now, let's go. I think the pass rush
Speaker 1: is definitely in play, but I also think an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman like a guard would be in play, and maybe
Speaker 1: a wide receiver if somebody falls. I mean, we can
Speaker 1: talk all day about the defense, but I do think
Speaker 1: they need some pieces on offense. This offense needs to
Speaker 1: get more consistent. Give me a guard, Give me a guard.
Speaker 1: I'll take that all day right now. I don't even
Speaker 1: care number twenty pay in the third round. Give me
Speaker 1: a big slobber knocker, some blood gut that'll come off
Speaker 1: the ball and just drill somebody. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Ninety ninety year division and the likes of Nick Bosa,
Speaker 1: who moves around the defensive front. Yeah, I'm not against that.
Speaker 1: So Darren, thank you for the time. There you go, Darren,
Speaker 1: Urban Cardinals Inside or Acy Cardinals dot Com will come back. Well,
Speaker 1: if I have a couple more theories, I'm gonna earhole
Speaker 1: you with. Next on a Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Gilbert. Part of sports is that you
Speaker 1: get to enjoy the highs, but then you also have
Speaker 1: to live with the lows. And you hope to have
Speaker 1: less lows and highs, obviously, but you know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna ride high, and if you're going
Speaker 1: to enjoy the good times, and if you're gonna be
Speaker 1: confident and excited during the good times, you also got
Speaker 1: to be you know, when it goes bad, you take
Speaker 1: that too. So I'm not going to stand up here
Speaker 1: and not take my lumps. I mean, we didn't do
Speaker 1: what we were supposed to do. We started the season
Speaker 1: great and we finished the season terrible. JJ Watt in
Speaker 1: the Trust Tree with the media and the fans after
Speaker 1: the playoff loss in La zach Ertz added at one
Speaker 1: point telling the media, look, it's going to sting. I
Speaker 1: want guys to feel this sting. Yes, So we wrap
Speaker 1: up this edition of The Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford and Gilbert Why do you say? Yes, Ron
Speaker 1: Wolfley And just because once again that's where you've got
Speaker 1: to start. You want every player to characterize the season exactly,
Speaker 1: exactly like jj Watt Jus did because he's telling the truth.
Speaker 1: When you start ten and two, Paulie, when you start
Speaker 1: ten and two and then you finish one and five,
Speaker 1: including how they played in that playoff game, that's a
Speaker 1: massive failure. And I think that should drive every player
Speaker 1: that is coming back. You should be driven. And if
Speaker 1: you're not driven, if you don't feel that you need
Speaker 1: to go, especially coming off a year where you started
Speaker 1: six and three and then lost five year last seven.
Speaker 1: So you know, like we talked about in the team playing,
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna get Cardinals gonna start eight and three,
Speaker 1: nine and three. No one's gonna believe it until they
Speaker 1: prove it in December and January up next year. Yes,
Speaker 1: and to do that well, you're gonna have to bolster
Speaker 1: the roster because guess what, the NFC West is the
Speaker 1: NFC best you are in the best division in football.
Speaker 1: Here's Cliff Kingsbury on some of those items they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to check off. We've got a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do and we want to be better and finished
Speaker 1: strong and all those things. But we definitely improved dramatically
Speaker 1: in the first three years and are hoping to do
Speaker 1: the same next year. And we're gonna have to. The
Speaker 1: NFC West is a challenge here, and you're out with
Speaker 1: great players and great teams and we got to make
Speaker 1: some some real progress if we want to keep up.
Speaker 1: Is there a next step for the head coach? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I believe, so, Polly, to your question,
Speaker 1: I believe that the next step for Cliff Kingsbury is
Speaker 1: being the alpha mel in the room. I think that
Speaker 1: is the next step for Cliff. Now again, Polly, when
Speaker 1: I say that, that doesn't mean that he has to
Speaker 1: turn into a screamer. No, he does not have to
Speaker 1: turn into a screamer. He doesn't mean he has to
Speaker 1: act like a jerk, Paul. He does not. But for me,
Speaker 1: he's got to be the definitive voice that is inside
Speaker 1: that locker room. He's got to be the alph. And
Speaker 1: once again, I'm not talking about walking around and acting
Speaker 1: all bad and everything up, because that's not Cliff, That's
Speaker 1: not who he is. But Paul Bill Belichick never walked
Speaker 1: around like that, yet everybody knew he was the alpha
Speaker 1: in the room, and I think that's important in Cliff's
Speaker 1: development as a head coach in the NFL taking that
Speaker 1: next step. We saw a lot of that when they
Speaker 1: started seven to ZO ten and two, did we not.
Speaker 1: We witnessed that on the sideline. Chase Edmonds told us
Speaker 1: on this very show that he personally fed off the
Speaker 1: head coach and the increased intensity. So yeah, it's also confounding,
Speaker 1: you know, as to exactly how to diagnose what happened,
Speaker 1: But internally, I'm guessing they know and they've already set
Speaker 1: out about how to correct it going into next year.
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