1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lallie. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, the Matt Williamson and it is 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: a Wednesday here at the Steelers. Getting back on the 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: practice field today. Met Yeah, and a little bit of 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: an adjustment today. They practiced later today. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Than usual. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: I think that was because of the Monday night game, 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: so practice was pushed back from three to five. So 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: they're actually on the practice field right now. 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: Okay, so you think they're just letting them sleep in 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, they catch them buye a 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 3: little bit asleep because. 13 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think you know, you maybe had they 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: had a few more meetings before you get into practice 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: later this afternoon. It also doesn't hurt that you're playing later. Yeah, 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: later in the afternoon. 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 3: You might want to get your body clock right now 18 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: used to performing later in the day. 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: So a little bit of an adjustment today for the Steelers. 20 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Uh No, actually they go back to the regular school 21 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: of tomorrow. So I think it was more Monday night 22 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: football related. 23 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: Okay, I was thinking Monday Sundays both being night games. 24 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe just trying something a little bit different there, 25 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: and uh, well, we'd like to see the Steelers maybe 26 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: try a little something different than what they've done on 27 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: the field. Although winning on Monday was when he's nice. Uh, 28 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: can't stress us enough when we talked about this yesterday that. 29 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: You one on one, the. 30 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: Sky is not falling. This is not last year where. 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: You were you're two and six every week was it 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: was an opponent that looked like, oh my god, you 33 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: know this is this is gonna be worse than the 34 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: last one because you know you're. 35 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: You're going you play Buffalo in Philadelphia. 36 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: And like, okay, there was not a lot of light 37 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: at the end. 38 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: Of there was no Then you're going to Miami and 39 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: like these. 40 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 3: Are quarterback and Watts out and and times aren't super 41 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: rosy now either. I mean, we're not ignoring the issues here. 42 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 3: I mean they have two major injuries that aren't going 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: to come back this you know, they're both. 44 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: I saw Cam Heyward in the locker room today walking around. 45 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: Really, I wonder if no limp like just it's surgery. 46 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: It's surgery, and it's growing like two days ago, right 47 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: like last Thursday, like it's not even been a week. 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: I wonder if they're like regretting putting them on. I'd be. 49 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: If I had surgery on my groin. I wouldn't get 50 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: out of bed for about three weeks. 51 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: Oh, I can imagine the pain and the imbibility. And 52 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: you know, walking down the steps would be hard, walking 53 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 3: up the steps would be hard. Opening the fridge would 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: be hard, you know, I mean. 55 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Just getting out of bed would be hard. 56 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's remarkable. I mean that's you're not implying he 57 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: could dress And. 58 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: No, he's got to be off. 59 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: He's got to be out four weeks and that's that's 60 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: the But this, this whole thing of eight weeks, I'm 61 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: not buying eight weeks. Do you think it's gonna be 62 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 2: on the I mean, I think they're gonna have to 63 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: hold him back. If it's eight weeks, it's because they 64 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: told him no. 65 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what. And people, I mean, it's the more 66 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: I hang out the facility, everyone seems to know it. 67 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: He's like a remarkable healer. He's like a great white 68 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: shark or a wolverine or something. You know. 69 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: The great players, Mike Tomlins says this all the time. 70 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: Great players are just built differently than than normal people. 71 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never want to you never. 72 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: The bad players aren't even normal people, but. 73 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: The great ones are really not like they are. I 74 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: don't even know if they're the same species as the 75 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: rest of us. 76 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, like exactly exactly. 77 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: You're telling me. There are people on this earth like 78 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: like TJ. 79 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: Watt, like his brother or it's just a different species 80 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: and they healed differently and all those good things too, 81 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: and that's. 82 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: Why they're able to do different things in the rest 83 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: of us. 84 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: So a total side note, but I knew that Nick 85 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: Chubb messed up his knee in Georgia. Yeah, but I 86 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: stumbled across it. I didn't even like seeing it because 87 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: it made me googly in my head. But he basically 88 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: did the exact same thing to the exact knee at 89 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: Georgia and came in and was like the best back 90 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: in the NFL. I mean by not being human. I mean, yeah, 91 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: it's over his case. Maybe he can get over it again. 92 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: It's just dawned on me. 93 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, Yeah, I gotta think that's do 94 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 2: it once. I that's that's one thing to do it again. 95 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: That's tough. Anyways, Getting back to so the Steelers. 96 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: Play at got a little blurb that matters for this 97 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: Chandler Jones from the Raiders has been placed on non 98 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: football Illness list. Yeah, and he deals with a personal issues. 99 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: I know he hasn't been part of them. 100 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: I've heard some rumors about the personal issue, and I've 101 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: heard I'm not going to repeat them here, some of 102 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: the stuff that's going on with that. He is, let's 103 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: just say he's at odds with Raiders owner Mark Davis. 104 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: I've thought he's been wanting to get traded since the start. 105 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: He's obviously trying to get traded with some of the 106 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: stuff that he's put out on social media. So they 107 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: can call it what they want to call it. He'll 108 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: never play for them again. 109 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's not. I didn't think he'd be 110 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: in the mix for this game. But I think as 111 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: soon as they drafted a defensive end and he doesn't 112 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: want to be there, he could have ended up somewhere else. 113 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 3: Very sure. 114 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: As they play the Raiders this week on Sunday, then 115 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 2: they get they go to Houston to play the Texans. 116 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: See these two games to me are of course ultra important, 117 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: but ultra telling, Like if the offense is anemic against 118 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: these two teams. 119 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: If we're sitting here on October first, after they've played 120 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: the Texans, Because this is So when NFL coaches break 121 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: down film on a team, sure they look at basically 122 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: the last three or four games. They don't look, well, 123 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: what what they do last year? Yeah, they don't care 124 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: about that. 125 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: What week ten? They care what happened week one? 126 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you doing right now? So you're gonna 127 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: look at these, you know, and and even you know, 128 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: they break seasons down into quarters. 129 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: Especially when it's sixteen games. 130 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: Now it's you get an extra one quarter has a 131 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: little overtime to it. But other than that, but that's 132 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: what you do. So if the Steelers, let's say the 133 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: Steelers come out and put up the same numbers that 134 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: they put up, are similar numbers of what they've done 135 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: in the last in their first two games over these 136 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: next two games, now you've got an issue. 137 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: Now I think the sky falls. 138 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah now, and now it's become a serious trend. 139 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: Like by no means am I not concerned? Right? Concerned? 140 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: I mean, frankly, I think the run blocking is atrocious 141 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: and the quarterback can't seem to hit anyone open receivers. Well, 142 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: that's a pretty bad problem to happen. 143 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 144 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: Now are they correctable? Of course, And of course I'm 145 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: i care about their record. I kind of expect them 146 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: to be three and one in two weeks from now, 147 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: but you know, whatever is But if the offense doesn't 148 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: show improvement against these two opponents, it's time to really worry. Absolutely. 149 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 150 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: So if they get back to doing that and then 151 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: and there will still be people out there. So let's 152 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: say they go out, they put up twenty five points 153 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: in each of these next two games, and in each 154 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: they have three hundred and fifty yards of offense in 155 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: both of these games. 156 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Whatever, it doesn't look so awful. 157 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, they win both of them, They're still going 158 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: to be people that go, well, yeah, but they can't 159 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: do it against good teams. 160 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: Right, And I get that. I mean, hey, if you're 161 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: trying to win the Super Bowl, you got to beat 162 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 3: the Niners defense, or at least compete better than you did. 163 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: And yeah, I still I know it's only two weeks 164 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: when we were talking off the air, I still think 165 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: these are going to be two of the top six 166 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: defenses in the league. I mean, I think Cowboys, Jets, 167 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: Patriots are a couple other ones, but these are the 168 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: top tier that they just played and maybe the two 169 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: most difficult tests that they'll have all year. And we 170 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: both knew. Everybody knew that the Niners defense was going 171 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 3: to be really good. It was really good last year. 172 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 3: The player of the year and he came back and 173 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: he had Hardgrave and they have stars everywhere. But I 174 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: was uncertain if the Browns defense truly was taking a 175 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: step forward. I think they are. I mean, you could 176 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: be the contrarian and said, well, they played a Bengals 177 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: team where Burrow was massively compromised. Yes, but they were 178 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: even harder on the Bengals than they were the Steelers. 179 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: I mean they abused that Bengals team and then the 180 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: Steelers had troubles with them too. Of course, I think 181 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: the Browns are going to be a very very good 182 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: defense this year, and I know the Niners are. And yeah, 183 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: the stats after two games show it so far. It's 184 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: only two games. 185 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, well, you know that's that's going to 186 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: be play out over the course of the season. But 187 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: from what I saw, I wasn't knew it. We knew 188 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: San Francisco had a good defense, of course they I 189 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: mean they went out they had the number one defense 190 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: in the league last year, and then they went out 191 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: and added Javon Hargrave. Now, they had a couple of losses, 192 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, safety and things like that, but by and large, 193 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: they were they were the same defense they've played last season. 194 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: The Browns I wasn't sure about because watching them play 195 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: in Week one against the Bengals. 196 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: It was easy to say, is it the chicken or 197 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: the egg thing. 198 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: We had seen the Bengals in Week one last year 199 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,559 Speaker 2: take some time to warm up the things. 200 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: It was always a hard time with the Browns too, so. 201 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. 202 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: And now after seeing the Browns defense, I think it's 203 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: pretty good defense. 204 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: I think their front is really good and they fly around. 205 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: The corners are pretty good. I mean there's there's some 206 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things that they do. The scheme is 207 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: very aggressive. 208 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: Is a very good defensive coordinator? Is a long track record? Yeah? 209 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: So, and it's easier. 210 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, But that doesn't mean it's okay to be bad 211 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 3: against the good teams. But it's not okay to be 212 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: bad against the bad teams. 213 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: Right, that's not okay. 214 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: That's where so you know, the Steelers and Raiders, for example, 215 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: played last year. Now, this game has a little caveat 216 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: to it that it was about minus seven degrees that day. 217 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little strange, but they won. 218 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: That game thirteen to ten. If this game is thirteen ten, 219 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: I you know, hey, it's it's time to start. Okay, 220 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: maybe we need to be a little more critical this year, 221 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: but I'm not if. 222 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: They can't get first down, yeah, I mean, if you're 223 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: getting look. 224 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: At twenty four first downs games. 225 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: I mean, there's some stats that are really disheartening, you know, 226 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: for the running game. You know, I was reading stuff 227 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: today about when Nausey and Warren are getting their first contact. 228 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: I mean it's well behind the line of scrimmage or 229 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: you know, barely you know, that kind of thing, pick 230 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: ITTs accuracy stuff. I mean, just the overall, I mean, 231 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: there are disheartening stats and I hate the term. You know, 232 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: there's nowhere to go. But it's only going to get better. 233 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily have to, right, somebody's gonna be the 234 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: worst offense in the league. 235 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: All right now? You know who the worst offense in 236 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: the league is. 237 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,719 Speaker 3: There's a couple. Really, do you know who has to 238 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: grewsome ones? 239 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: The worst offense in the league right now is the 240 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. 241 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's. 242 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: Not even close. H like they have been atrocious. 243 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: Acious and I don't think anyone's particularly. 244 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Wor no, right because it's two games. 245 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: They could still win the Super Bowl. 246 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah right now, If Joe Burrow has to miss several weeks, 247 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: then that that changes the outlook a little bit. 248 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: As soon as I fell out of my mouth and 249 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: no one's worried, I immediately wanted to stop myself, be like, 250 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: unless I'm worried about his calf, I'm not worried about 251 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: them being good when they're right. I'm worried about his calf. 252 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: If his calf is a problem and even misses this 253 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: game and you're row. 254 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: And three, now. 255 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: You're in trouble. 256 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: You got two division losses already. 257 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, well they play the Rams this week. 258 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: That's a team that that's a coin flip to me. 259 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: If at this if I. 260 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: So, I do my I call him every week for 261 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: the Observer Reporters still and I do. I do a 262 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: little pick them. I pick five games a week against 263 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: the spread in there. And I actually sent it in 264 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: last night. He just wrote it last time, like I 265 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 2: got a short week this week, I get something done tonight. 266 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: So I wrote that I picked the Rams. 267 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: With the spread even straight out, straight up, where's it at. 268 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: It's in Cincinnati Monday night. 269 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care. Stafford's playing a thousand times better 270 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: than Borrow. Yeah, I mean it's I don't blame. 271 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: As I said in there, I don't care if Burrow 272 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: plays or doesn't play, because he's. 273 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: Not Joe Burrow the same. Yeah. 274 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 275 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: Watching that game last week against the Ravens, and I 276 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: watched every. 277 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Every down of it. It was not pretty. 278 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: No, it's not. No there, I hear you. I might 279 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: do the same. I mean, I think the Rams are 280 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: in a much better place than the Bengals right now. 281 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: They've been very scrappy thus far. 282 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: Well coached. I mean, their offense is a lot better 283 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: than the Bengals. 284 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just I mean, looking at that, Uh, 285 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 2: these next two games will be very telling. 286 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Then you get the Ravens at home. 287 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: So this you hope you figured some things out. 288 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: You've gotten a little bit of confidence back, you know. 289 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett spoke to to media today. We'll play that 290 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 2: back later in the show, but one of the things 291 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: he was asked is you know, what's your what's your 292 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: identity right now? 293 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: Offensively, and he said, we don't have one. 294 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: No, right, I'm glad he admitted it. I mean, there's 295 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 3: no bread and by there's no foundation. You know, what 296 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: are you good at right now? Nothing? 297 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: They don't know after two games they don't know. Now, 298 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: that's not a typical. 299 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: No, No, I think. 300 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: A lot of times, you know that that identity has 301 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: formed over the first few games of the season, the 302 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: first month of the season, and then you go from there. 303 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: It took them, you know, half a season last year 304 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: to find an identity. 305 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and you thought you'd build off that. But 306 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: the run game has not built off that at all. 307 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: No, No, it hasn't. 308 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: So they need to They need to get that corrected, 309 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: and they need to get it corrected quickly. This is 310 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: a Raiders team that might lend itself to do those 311 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: kind of things. They're allowing eighty one point seven percent 312 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: completion percentage this year. That's certainly that's the large that's 313 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: the most highest in league history through two games. Again, 314 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: it's two games, but eighty one point seven percent completion percentage. 315 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. Ball comes out of the quarterback's hands, whether 316 00:12:54,240 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: it's tipped, deflected, hit while he throws a throwaway one yeah, 317 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: and it counts spikes exactly exactly right, I mean anything 318 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: end of the half or you know, I've been trying 319 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: to kill. 320 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: The ball slips out of quarterback's hand, whatever it may be. 321 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: No, it still gets completed ten times basically. Now that 322 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: of course won't keep up. I mean, they won't be 323 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: an eighty nine percent completion percentage team for seventeen weeks. 324 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: Like that's almost impossible. But I was about to say 325 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 3: the one thing that I it's it's not what your 326 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: identity on offense, but I think receivers are getting open. Yeah, 327 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 3: you know, I think I see that on tape, I 328 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: see that live, that receivers are getting open. That's the 329 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 3: one thing I think that they're doing at least average 330 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: on offense. 331 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: Now. And no, fine, yeah again, you know everybody wants 332 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: to blame the offensive coordinator. I don't see this as 333 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator problem. 334 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: I just don't. I see it as a quarterback not 335 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: trusting what he sees issue right. 336 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, and mixed with poor accuracy when he does 337 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: let it go in that and off. 338 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 2: But that could also that could also be because he 339 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: doesn't trust. 340 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: What he's seeing. 341 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, you know, if you're not if you don't 342 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: if you don't have any confidence. Yeah, if you don't 343 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: have the confidence in what you're seeing, that's going to 344 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: affect your accuracy. 345 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean confidence in this game or any athletic, 346 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: you know, field is unbelievably important. And if you're not 347 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: feeling it and you're double clutching, or you're hesitating or 348 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: should I go here? Should I dump it down? Thinking, 349 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: if you're in your own head, you know the play's 350 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna go that way. And unfortunately there are 351 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: two big issues quarterback getting the ball where it needs 352 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: to be and run blocking. 353 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: To me, they kind of go hand in hand. 354 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, one makes the other worse, you know what I mean? 355 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I mean if you're running the ball and 356 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're in second and ten again, like. 357 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: Now Kenny's got to bail us out, he probably feels 358 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: the pressure even more and you know, double thinks about 359 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: it even more. I mean, it's as a slippery slope. 360 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 361 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: I do think that they're kind of I mean, we've 362 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: seen some teams kind of sell the first two opponents 363 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: of kind of sold out to stop the run early. 364 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: Because they watched they watched the tape of the Steelers 365 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: from last year. 366 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: These guys want to come out. They Hey, they went 367 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: out in the off season. 368 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: They're one of two. 369 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Of their big acquisitions were a big run blocking guard 370 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: and a big blocking tight end. 371 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: Everything they added was big on. 372 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 373 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, these guys want to come out and run the football. Okay, 374 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: we're going to sell out and stop that what they 375 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: did last year. Yeah, we're not going to let them 376 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: run for one hundred and forty six yards and make 377 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: things easy on the on the young quarterback. So now 378 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 2: you slam the door in the running game and you're 379 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: putting all the pressure on the young quarterback. 380 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's not handling it well on the field, 381 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 3: but I hope that he will. 382 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 383 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: I look at this kind of like I look at 384 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 2: you know, you see pitchers in major league baseball coming 385 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: they've had a lot of success in the minor league level. 386 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: They get up to the majors and they don't trust 387 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: their stuff. They start walking guys and then when they 388 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, and they do finally throw a pitcher or 389 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: you know that, now you're behind on the count. 390 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: It's three and oh, and you got a groove one 391 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: and the guy puts it up. 392 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: You know, twelve twelve rows into the into the bleachers 393 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 2: because you're not painting. Yeah, you're not doing the things 394 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: that got you buy in the miners because maybe a 395 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: your your stuff was so good that you could throw 396 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: a ball down the middle of the miners and they 397 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 2: would miss it. 398 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, uh, lesser player. 399 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: But oftentimes what happens is that you don't trust your stuff. 400 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't I'm gonna try to paint this corner. Well, 401 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: this guy, I just I just saw this guy last 402 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: week on television. He hit two home runs in a 403 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: game against this against this picture. I'm not that picture. 404 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: I don't feel great. I don't trust it throwing that 405 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: now and then the hitter knows it. Yeah. 406 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: So confidence is huge for people who throw the ball 407 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: for a living. You have to trust what you're throwing, 408 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: what you're seeing, and you have to trust that where 409 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: you when you throw, let that ball go. Your guy's 410 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: going to go make a play on it and nobody 411 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: else is. And you can't be overly concerned about interceptions 412 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: as a quarterback. 413 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: So the Steelers could lose to the Raiders or Texans 414 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: or both. I mean that's how this league works. Yeah, yeah, 415 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: I'm unimpressed with either one of those teams. I think 416 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 3: there are two of the worst six or seven teams 417 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 3: in the league right now. But that doesn't mean you 418 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: can just we'll be fine. I mean the road games andames. 419 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 3: But you would hope over the course of those two games. 420 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm not predicting it, but I mean, over the course 421 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: of those two games, Kenny can get his mojo back 422 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, complete passes. Make the routine 423 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 3: routine again, is because they say or whatever, you know, 424 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: make the routine plays. 425 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: Might tell my players that all the time when I'm coaching, 426 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: and like, look, make the routine plays. That's why they're 427 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: called routine, because you're expected to make them. We don't 428 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: need all the highlights and all the you know, getting 429 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: on ESPN's Top Plays of the Week or anything like that. 430 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: Just make the normal stuff, the stuff you're expected. If 431 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: we run a ten yard out and the corners backed 432 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: off five yards, we should catch it. 433 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: That should be a completion every single time. 434 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, bal comes, lighter hands on time, boom backfoot, Yes, 435 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: there it goes. You're right, I mean when a layup 436 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: will do. I don't need a tomahawk, donk. 437 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: Let's let's just do this, you know, so do that more. 438 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Get Pat Farrenmouth involved in the passing game, because he's 439 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: he's the routine guy. 440 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 3: I wrote an article about it last night, and I 441 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: went back and just watched every one of his snaps individually, 442 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: and yeah, he blocked some, but all his routes were 443 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: really close to the line of scrimmage too, you know. 444 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: And I think it's I think he needs his role 445 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: needs to expand, his production needs to expand. I didn't 446 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: look at him last week and be like, man, his 447 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 3: chest looks like he's really bugging him. 448 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: He's just going through I think some of that's because 449 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: of the the who they've played. Yeah, you know, you 450 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: know San Francis. San Francisco's got good pass rushers. 451 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he was chipping on the way routes. 452 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 2: You know that the Browns have good pass rushers. So hey, 453 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: you got to give him something. You've got to give 454 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 2: pick at somebody. He can get the ball too quickly. 455 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you're taking away one of 456 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: your own weapons, and then you don't use it. 457 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: Then you don't use them. Yeah. I'm not saying he's 458 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: the answer to all their offensive problems, but that would 459 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: be step one to me is let's feature this guy more. 460 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 3: He needs eight to ten targets. 461 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I'd love to see that, 462 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: especially this week. 463 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: Raiders the middle of the field. 464 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: They play first of all, Robert Splain is on the 465 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: field one hundred percent of the time for them, and 466 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: they live in Nickel and Dime. 467 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: Live in it. 468 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: They play seventeen percent of their defensive snaps over the 469 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: last nineteen games, going back to the start of last 470 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: year seven ye seventeen percent of their snaps have been 471 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: in their base for. 472 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: Three seventeen percent. 473 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 2: That's like almost It's not the lowest in the league, 474 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: but it's pretty darn closed. I mean Buffalo is lower, 475 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, they don't have the defensive talent of Buffalo. 476 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 3: So but if you come out, especially with Deonta Hurt 477 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: and the more we talk through this with Mouth and 478 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: Washington Nausey and two receivers, and you see Dime or 479 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 3: you see Nickel, I mean I'm running the ball, yeah. 480 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: And then when I do throw it, I want to 481 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: get I want to get Splain matched up on fire move. 482 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I don't. I think it's a good matchup. 483 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I do too. 484 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: You know, they they're gonna have to, you know, see 485 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: what they what the Raiders injury report looks like. Here 486 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: later in a week again, playing another one of these 487 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: teams from the West Coast or out west, I should say, yeah, 488 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 2: we're not going to get an injury report from the Raiders, 489 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: but I don't expect Devonte Adams to practice today. No, 490 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, we'll see about some of their other injuries. 491 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: But I would think Myers is getting closed. He missed 492 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 3: with a concussion of a week ago. 493 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: It must been pretty bad when them because he didn't 494 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 2: practice at all last week. He never never even got 495 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: a limited yet, so that that must have been a 496 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: pretty bad one. Yeah, so we'll see if that lingers 497 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: as well. But you know, I think this is, you know, 498 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: a winnable game. It is a road game, but I 499 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 2: expect there to be I know there's gonna be I 500 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 2: know there's gonna be a lot of Steeler fans at 501 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: this one. You know, we'll see for the for the 502 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: ones who couldn't go to this game against the Raiders, 503 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: maybe they go to the game against the Texans next week. 504 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: You know, the Raiders haven't been great in this building 505 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: either since they've moved. 506 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Because the opposing team's fans always fill it up. 507 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: It's so easy to get to. It's such a destination spot. 508 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 2: You know. 509 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 3: I think they've won like fort game. Yeah. 510 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: Mark Davis was complaining about i't want to see the 511 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: opposing team's fans coming into our building and taking over anymore. 512 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 5: Well, maybe you. 513 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: Shouldn't have moved to Vegas. 514 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 3: Then, right, there's a flight from everywhere to Vegas. 515 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: Everywhere in the country has direct flights to one city 516 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: in the country. 517 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: Well, maybe three cities they're direct for everybody else. Well four, 518 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I'll say four. 519 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: There are four cities that everybody has direct flights to 520 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 2: New York, Chicago, LA, and Vegas. 521 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 5: Okay, that's it. 522 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 3: You maybe you should move to OMAL. 523 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, posing fans are going to take over your stadium. 524 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: That's just the way it goes. 525 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 3: I think people like to visit Vegas. 526 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: Come on, man, absolutely. Anyways, we're overdue for a breaker. 527 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening 528 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 529 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 530 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 5: Black and Gold football leaves here twenty four to seven. 531 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 5: You're listening to SNR this football season, stopping shopping Steve 532 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 5: Cannonsburg and grabbed longer light, longer, black and tan and 533 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: golden pills in twelve pounds. 534 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lallie. 535 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive 536 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt, I'm hearing the thirty 537 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: third team and they have their Derek Klausen has his 538 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: Week three power rankings at the quarterback position. 539 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: Should like these. I think he does really good work. 540 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's dig into this and well, as we typically. 541 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: At least have two games to go off of. Yeah, 542 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: there's a little something there with these guys around. If 543 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: you recall he had Watson very very low to start 544 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: the season, and he's looking like a prophet. 545 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe listening to this show at thirty two, 546 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: he has Zach Wilson. 547 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: He's really horrid. Yeah, I mean he's really really bad. 548 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 3: I thought, I know that Dallas was a really difficult 549 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 3: test for him. I think he gets the Patriots this week, 550 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: which is going to be ugly as could be, Like, gee, 551 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: poor guy, but he's not showing any signs of life. 552 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: No, no, it's killing their running game too. 553 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: Like killing everything. 554 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything. 555 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 556 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: At thirty one Josh Dopps, Yes. 557 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: Of course, but he's far exceeded my expectations through two games. 558 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: I mean, they weren't horrible except for that last. I mean, 559 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: if you look at it in the light that they're 560 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: trying to lose games and they're the worst team in 561 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: the league and he's not a starter. I think he's 562 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 3: been better than that. 563 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: He's been better than that. He's been better than Zach Wilson. 564 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: He's been better than Zach. Yeah. 565 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: At thirty Bryce Young. 566 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: He looks totally overwhelmed. Yeah. Yeah, So I sent a 567 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 3: tweet out today and I think I'm not going to 568 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: bet every dollar I own on it that Arizona and 569 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: Chicago are going to own the top four picks in 570 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: the draft. Wow, that includes Houston in Carolina's picks. Like, 571 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: how fun would that be if you have two teams 572 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: have the top one picks in some way, shape or form. 573 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: I think that could be the case. Caroline's in bad 574 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: shape for this year. 575 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. At twenty nine, Sam Howe, I kind of like. 576 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: How he's played. I mean I know that Derek is 577 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: so here. Here's one of these guys at a low spot. 578 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: Here's one of the reasons why he has him this low. 579 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: In two games, He's taken ten sacks. 580 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes That's a great point, it really is. 581 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, like that's playing A part of playing quarterback 582 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: is not putting your team in bad situations like that 583 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: by taking sacks. 584 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: And he's taking a ton of sacks. 585 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: And one thing you correct me on a lot is 586 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: fumbles for quarterbacks too, which go hand in hand with 587 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: taking sacks and the you know, I don't look at 588 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: fumble numbers enough when I evaluate quarterbacks, but like fields Watson, 589 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: how yeah, they take sacks. 590 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: They take sacks, and the more you get hit by defenders, 591 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: the more likely artists to lose the football, as Deshaun 592 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 2: Watson did the like you can't do that in the NFL. 593 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 3: Yeah. Like what also worries me about, how too is 594 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: as a run or like I cite this a lot. 595 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 3: He ran for over eight hundred yards was last year 596 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: in North Carolina, But he really should run for like 597 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: three hundred yards. Yeah right, you know what I mean, 598 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: Like Gavonte Williams was gone, and he just does anything 599 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: to make a play in like a Josh Allen manner. 600 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 3: But he runs through walls and I don't. 601 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 2: Not gonna last right right, But I mean it's kind 602 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: of the same problem Anthony Richardson's having right now, right 603 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 2: now so far. 604 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean too, he's gotting. He's played two games, 605 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: he's getting banged. 606 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 2: Up in both as unfinished either. Yeah, that's not a 607 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: good sign. At twenty eight he has Deshaun Watson. 608 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I mean that's how he has played, how 609 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: he's played. I mean I didn't see hardly any glimmer 610 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 3: of hope in that game. 611 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: And it wasn't in week one. He was bad, really bad. 612 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Kenny Pickett did not play well in that game. 613 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 3: No, I'm assuming we'll hear Kenny's name soon. 614 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: He played better than Deshaun Watson. I think he didn't 615 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 2: turn the ball over. He didn't take a bunch of sacks. Yeah, 616 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: Watson took six sacks. 617 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: Six sacks and a ton of turnovers. Yeah. He hurts 618 00:25:59,400 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 3: the team. 619 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: I mean they were and they were they were. 620 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: Like think about the one deep ball he threw Levi 621 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: wall I mean it looked like it was intended for 622 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: Levi Wallace. Yeah, like he could have had another interception there. 623 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: There's some other ones that could have been like, he's. 624 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: Bad, He's bad. There was a couple of decent throws 625 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: to Cooper down the left sideline. 626 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: Everything his best throws were to the left. 627 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say that, but I'm sitting 628 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 3: here thinking the skin of my head. There was out 629 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: routes that were at least reasonably open NFL open. He's 630 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: thrown them in the seats. 631 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: They were ten feet over the receiver's head. They weren't catchable. 632 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 3: A lot of those, Yeah, I'd be worried. 633 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 2: At twenty seven is Kenny Pickett. Here's what he has 634 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 2: to say about Kenny Pickett. A lot of Kenny Pickett's 635 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: placement at twenty first on this list heading into the 636 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: season was banking on some year two improvements. So he 637 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 2: was came into this at twenty one. 638 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: I read his sorry rut, but he he wrote a 639 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: whole preview on all these quarterbacks based off last year. 640 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: And he's a picket fan. Yeah, but you got to 641 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: value what you see. 642 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 2: Uh. I assumed his processing and ball placement would take 643 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: a step forward. That hasn't happened. Monday Nights game against 644 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: Cleveland encapsulates pickets issue. Every so often, he flashes a 645 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: tough throw under pressure or strings together a few accurate 646 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: quick throws. But there's but there's always so much meat 647 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: left on the bone. Pickets, timing, and accuracy within the 648 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,479 Speaker 2: structure of the system are all over the place. He 649 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: needs to turn things around quickly for the Steelers. 650 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 651 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with any of that. 652 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: That's right. That's an honest assessment from somebody that has 653 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 3: no skin in the game whatsoever. 654 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: But by all means, let's continue to blame the offensive 655 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: coordinator for this. Now I'm not saying he is blameless. 656 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: I mean you have to take ownership with this. With 657 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: the young quarterback. 658 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 3: How are you gonna make him better? Now? Right? You know? Right? 659 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: How are you gonna get him out of this? 660 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: But what I've seen the first two games are more 661 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: Kenny Picket issues than they are Matt Cannada issues. 662 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean because even when he makes the good decision, 663 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: he hasn't hit him right. Yeah, I mean, like what's 664 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: missing here? You know it, ball comes out nice, and 665 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 3: it comes out nice, but the back foot hits play 666 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: as designed and then you missed the receiver. Yeah. 667 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: At twenty six, is Baker Mayfield probably climbing? Yeah? I 668 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: think he started. He might have been like thirty one 669 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: or so. 670 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it started. 671 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: He said, I'd like to see it against the non 672 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: NFC nor secondary Yeah again, these are again who you 673 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: play matters. 674 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: I bet Baker would look worse if he played the 675 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 3: Niners and Browns. 676 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: Or the Yeah if if that's what he had played 677 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 2: in the first two weeks, he would look much worse. 678 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: Than what has That definitely matters. 679 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: At twenty five is Desmond Ritter. 680 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: I have major concerns with him. I don't know if 681 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 3: his accuracy's ever gonna be good enough either. 682 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 2: At twenty four is justin fields he'd be lower. I 683 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: can make your argument that he should be much lower 684 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: than this. 685 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: I mean, none of the names that we mentioned scream 686 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: that they should be over him. But he looks broken. Yeah, 687 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: and that whole offense looks broken. That's the one team 688 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 3: to me that might have the worst offense and defense 689 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: in the league. But I mentioned I think that they're 690 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 3: gonna have two picks in the top four. I'm pretty 691 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: confident that theirs is gonna be. 692 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: They play the Chiefs this week. 693 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 3: There's a lot of those games, by the. 694 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: Way, like what's the score of that game? 695 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: Going to be as much as the Chiefs one and 696 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 3: they're not even running them. Yeah, you know, I would 697 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: think Gatsy, who I'm a fan of, I mean just 698 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: because we were put together. But I think you have 699 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 3: to say, we need to save our jobs. We need 700 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 3: to get first downs, We need to go back to 701 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: last year and get this guy eighty rushing yards again, 702 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: you know, and just see what happens. 703 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: At twenty three is c J. Stroud. 704 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he kind of looks like he belongs though. Yeah, 705 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 3: you know, he has no line, he has no running game. 706 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: His circumstances are as bad as anybody's right now, then 707 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: you know he's okay. 708 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: Twenty two is Anthony Richardson. 709 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean finishing a game would be. 710 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: Big, that would be huge. Yeah, start one and finish it. 711 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 712 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: At twenty one is Jimmy Garoppolo. 713 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: Well, well they say about him, he's on slate this week. 714 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo didn't play well against the Bills. He missed 715 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: a few opportunities to be aggressive down the field and 716 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: three two costly interceptions given the situation, though it wasn't 717 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: out of wasn't out of Garoppolo. Norm the Raiders were 718 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: in a twenty one to ten hole at halftime, and 719 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 2: their run game was completely useless. Garoppolo just isn't a 720 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 2: quarterback built to win from behind with no run support. 721 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: That's important to note, because Garoppolo still did some his 722 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: some of his typical stuff. Well, he got the ball 723 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: out early and accurately and didn't allow a solid Bills 724 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: pass rush to sack him. Garoppolo strings as a quick, 725 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: efficient passer just don't matter when the game turns into 726 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: a shootout. He's a quality game manager, not a game changer. 727 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: Perfectly said. Yeah, I mean, it'll be fine there if 728 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 3: Jacobs is the leading rusher in the league. But you 729 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 3: got Adams and you know those dudes. But hey, if 730 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 3: you got to bring me from behind in harsh circumstances, 731 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: ain't happening. 732 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: I'm starting to believe that Buffalo's pass rush since he 733 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: brought that up, might be a little non existent without 734 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: von Miller. 735 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: And they've invested heavy in it. 736 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they have any pass. 737 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: Rush about the line too. 738 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean watching them in there in their 739 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: opener against the Jets, they didn't really Okay, Yeah, I 740 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: realized that that, you know, Aaron Rodgers got hurt being 741 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: thrown to the ground. 742 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: First play the game, first play the game. Yeah, after that, 743 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: they didn't do much to put pressure. 744 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 3: No, you should pressure the Raiders. 745 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh. 746 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: Twenty is Daniel Jones. 747 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean this last half of football he put 748 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: together was spectacular, but the. 749 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Next the next two halves aren't gonna be spectacular. 750 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: I can tell you that Thursday night in San fran 751 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: and San fran without without off two of your offensive 752 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: lineman and your best offensive. 753 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 3: Weapon, Yeah, they're gonna get slaughtered. It's gonna be three 754 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: or four slaughters. 755 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be ugly. 756 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 2: They might have They should have a running clock in 757 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: the second half of that one. Nineteen is brock Party. 758 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 3: He's a Party doubter. Yeah, I mean I think he's 759 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: moved him up since the beginning of the season, but. 760 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: That's where he belongs. 761 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like this, these rankings putting him in the top ten, 762 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 2: that's that's the I don't have a problem with brock 763 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: Purty at nineteen. I have a problem when brock Purty's 764 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: ranked Ahad of Lamar Jackson and stuff like that, then 765 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: that offends me. 766 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's rough. Like frankly, if I was doing quarterback 767 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 3: ranks to start the season, he'd probably be like twenty 768 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: five or twenty six for me. Yeah, and I'll can 769 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 3: see he's probably nineteen. 770 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: He didn't play well last week. 771 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: No he didn't. He didn't. 772 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 2: But I mean that that stuff last year when when 773 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: you know, based off of like his first three starts 774 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, he's he's in the top twelve. 775 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in the top twelve in the NFL. I'm like, 776 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: you gotta be out of your mind. 777 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford. 778 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, ridiculous. Eighteen is 779 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Love. 780 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: It's had a really good year. I think he leads 781 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 3: to the league in touchdown receptions or touchdown throws. 782 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: Not going to hold up, No, No, Seventeen is Derek Carr. 783 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 3: Okay, it was so so this past week. 784 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, not great. 785 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: Sixteen Russell Wilson. 786 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: I think he's back to respectable, not being bad. 787 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: He played the Raiders and then he played Washington. Then yeah, 788 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: I don't know that either one of those defenses are. 789 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: I think they're in Miami. 790 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: Getting back to what we were talking about with Pickett 791 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: early in show, like let's see when you get tested. 792 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: If if the Steelers had played. 793 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: The Raiders in Washington to open the season, there's a 794 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 2: good chance Kenny Picketts might be right here at sixteen. 795 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think they're in for a long 796 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: one in Miami too. 797 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: I think so too. Fifteen is Mac Jones. 798 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't think he's been bad this year. I mean 799 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: having a real offense and that helps. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 800 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean he doesn't have a lot of round him. 801 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,479 Speaker 2: We're still going two. Fourteen is Jared Goff. You can 802 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: make the argument golf should be a little higher than this. 803 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been quite effective now for I mean basically 804 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: since he's joined the Lions. 805 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 806 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: Thirteen Ryan Tannehill. He was high on him going into 807 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: the season. 808 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: He's a Tannehill guy, and he's kind of a quarterbacks 809 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: quarterback because he'll take hits and he's a tough guy. 810 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 3: But he was horrible in week one. He was quite 811 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: good in week two. 812 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 813 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: I think as he as Derrick Henry goes, he goes 814 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: like if if Derrick Henry gets over eighty yards, there's 815 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 2: a good chance Ryan tanney Hill looks decent. 816 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: Side note, the Chargers defense is horrible, yeah, or horrible. 817 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: And for what the money they're spending exactly. 818 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 3: They have no right to be. Yeah. 819 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: Twelve is Kirk Cousins. 820 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they throw more than anyone in the league. 821 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 3: He's got crazy stats, but you're not gonna put him 822 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 3: the top five. 823 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 824 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: Eleven is two a Tego Vailoa. 825 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 3: So I heard it in insane stat about Tua. What's 826 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: more about the Patriots than Tua? Tua is five and 827 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: zero against the Patriots, Right, Okay, that's not so crazy. 828 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: I mean a lot of this is timing of when 829 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 3: you get the Patriots. Since two thousand, basically the Brady 830 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 3: Belichick era, there's three quarterbacks that have five wins against 831 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 3: the Patriots period period. Josh Allen, Peyton Manning, who played 832 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: them fifteen times, and Tua, and Josh Allen's won like 833 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: one out of three two. I mean, like he's like 834 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: fifty fifty, he's like five hundred against him. Now, that's 835 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 3: more of a stat for yesteryear. But it's amazing that 836 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 3: since two thousand, no one has more than five wins 837 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: against them. Him. This week he's going to be the 838 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 3: number one on that list. 839 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: Well, he already beat him last week. 840 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yea, yeah, okay, that's where I came from. 841 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: Oh yeah. 842 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: Number ten is Gino Smith. 843 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 3: I was ready to kind of leave him for dead, 844 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: and he played really well last week. So that's the 845 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: first time I've been excited about him since about Week 846 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 3: twelve last year. 847 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nine is Jalen Hurts. That's where Jalen Hurts belongs to. 848 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: He is not playing well. 849 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: He's not playing well. He's still an effective football player, 850 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: but like he's not better than the mar or you 851 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 852 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had one pass that it was between eleven 853 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: and twenty yards last week, which he did not complete. 854 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: Like his intermediate intermediate passing is just non existing. 855 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: It's hard. 856 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's all deep stuff or dump offs to 857 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: the you know, it's. 858 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,320 Speaker 3: A I don't want to say he's got it easy. 859 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't, because he's earned everything. But you have the 860 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 3: best line in the league, your wheels, plus the running 861 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 3: backs and those three receivers including Goddard, and you always 862 00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 3: are playing with the lead. Yeah, not so bad. 863 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: Eight is Matthew Stafford having a really good year. 864 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, Stafford to me, is a better quarterback than hers. 865 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 866 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: Seven is Dak Prescott. 867 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: Okay, also having a good year. 868 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: Six Trevor Lawrence. 869 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: Oh, I thought he was bad this bad. 870 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: I thought he was bad too. 871 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: I'm a believer, don't get me wrong. But I thought 872 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 3: their offense was pretty rough. 873 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 874 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was great week one either, Now 875 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: I think about it, I mean number k okay, yeah, 876 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 3: Five Joe Burrow. Where would you put him? I mean 877 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 3: you can't put him. 878 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: Thirty, right, but that's how he's played. 879 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: He's played like thirty two. Yeah, but the actually i'd 880 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 3: put him like thirty one. 881 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean they got to sit him for the long like. 882 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some short term misery here, but they would 883 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: be in a much better spot right now if they'd 884 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: have sat him these first two weeks. 885 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, much better knowing what you know now. Yeah, 886 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 3: it'd be great if he's coming off the bench now yeah, roo. 887 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: And okay, more healthy and okay, now we get Joe 888 00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 2: Burrow on the white Horse. 889 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah. 890 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 2: Now you've taken your you've taken your lumps, and you've 891 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: got nothing to show for it. 892 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 3: Up to take more. 893 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 894 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: Do you think he plays this week? 895 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: I don't think he does. Yeah, I don't think he does. 896 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: Four is justin Herbert Yeah, and they're owing too. 897 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: He's a great player. Yeah. And two that's same as 898 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 3: Rivers when he was there and Fouts when he was there. 899 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 3: And you know, like I hope there's not a narrative 900 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: around Herbert that he can't win the big one, but 901 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 3: there is starting to be that. You know, like say, 902 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter leads. 903 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: They were three for twelve on third downs last week, 904 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: and that's the quarter. I mean, I'm sorry, that's quarterback Sam. 905 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean at least half of it is. And 906 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 3: going to Jacksonville with that lead in the playoffs and 907 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 3: not getting out of there with a win doesn't look 908 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 3: good for anybody in that organization. 909 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, if they lose a couple more here coming up, like. 910 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 3: They're owing two and they're going to Minnesota is also 911 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 3: and two and a loser leaves town match, you know, right. 912 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: Like they lose that one, his seat might be that 913 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: might you might be done. 914 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 3: I could see Kellen Moore being the interim head coach 915 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 3: there some point. 916 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 917 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: At three is Lamar Jackson it's playing really well. See 918 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: I watched that game. I thought he didn't. I didn't 919 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 2: think he played all that well in the first half 920 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 2: of the Gay against Cincinnati. It wasn't until they actually 921 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: started designing some starting some run designed runs for him 922 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 2: when I thought he finally kind of started playing better. 923 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 3: I think they're crazy if they don't. I mean, you 924 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: don't want him just to be a. 925 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: Drop back guy. Yeah, I was. 926 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: I was watching that game because I want to see, 927 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: all right, what's this Lamar Jackson offense look like? Or 928 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: what's this new top monk on offense looked like? Once 929 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: he started running, it looked like what they used to 930 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: It looked like the same offense they've always worn. 931 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 3: Three receivers on the field a bunch of time. 932 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: Right, that was the only difference. Yeah, at two, Josh Allen. 933 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: I guess, But. 934 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean he's he played really well though last week. 935 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's a superstar. But against the Raiders. 936 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 2: It's against the Raiders. 937 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: Week one wasn't great. He just takes a lot of risks. 938 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 2: How about this that for him passes between one and 939 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: ten yards against the Raiders Allen was eighteen of nineteen. 940 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 3: Wow, maybe the Steelers should do that, you think, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 941 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 3: but weak areas of the field, flats, quick slants, things 942 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 3: like that. Yeah yeah, just move the chain, move the 943 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 3: chain again, like we talked about last segment, hit the layups, 944 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: you know, get to make the routines, and. 945 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: Then every once in a while you take a shot. 946 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 3: Sure, sure so. 947 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: And then of course one is Patrick Mahomes. 948 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 3: No, yeah, as it's no matter what he does, He's 949 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 3: going to be one for the foreseeable future. But I'm 950 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 3: not sure who two is. Right. 951 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: He got off to a slow start against Jackson. 952 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 3: He did, he did? 953 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean that whole team did many points? Yeah, no, 954 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: they scored seventeen. So yeah. 955 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,319 Speaker 2: The quarterback situation around the league, we we've talked about it. 956 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 2: This is why we talk fantasy football because it does overlas, 957 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: it does tie into this stuff. The top quarterbacks haven't 958 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 2: played like top quarterbacks consistently. 959 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 3: No, I mean Alan, yeah, r yeah, borrow. 960 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: Let's talk about that when we come back. He is 961 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the 962 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 2: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a 963 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 2: break when we be back. When we come back, we'll 964 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 2: tackle that little subject here right after this. 965 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 5: These Black and Gold fan habit. 966 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: We've invented a new messaging system using that. 967 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 3: Christian's really rough right now, with injuries and uncertainty, youth 968 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 3: versus old. I mean, who's really in their prime? 969 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: Or what I think is happening around the league, Matt is, 970 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 2: I think a lot of teams are crowding the middle 971 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: of the field. He's saying, we're not going to give 972 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 2: you these these easy layups down the middle of the field. 973 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna make it throw everything to the outside. 974 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 3: With more time and more arm strength, all those type 975 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: of things. Too. No, I think you're right, and I'm 976 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 3: not one hundred percent believer A tight end is a 977 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 3: young quarterback's best friend. But they're a pretty good friend. 978 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: Pretty good friend. 979 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 2: I've seen too much of that, yeah, over the years 980 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: that you know when you when typically when you have 981 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: a young quarterback in there. 982 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 3: I mean, those are easy throws A big target. 983 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 2: To a big target, a guy who's got a big 984 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 2: catch radius. Yeah, and there's a matchup issue. 985 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that much I stressed in the article too, 986 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 3: is like this guy is a little different type of target. 987 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 3: He's got a big catching radius, he can adjust the 988 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 3: bad balls, he's good after the catch. Get him involved, 989 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 3: get him involved. Yeah, and I don't quite understand why 990 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: he's not getting peppered with targets. 991 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 2: So I think that plays into this a little. I mean, yeah, yeah, 992 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 2: even Travis Kelcey came back last week and didn't go off. 993 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 3: I would saying I bet my homes would have been 994 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: better with a healthy Kelsey in the first two weeks. Yeah, 995 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 3: you know that that situation. 996 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 2: But just across the league, I mean, the only the 997 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 2: only tight end who's really lived up to what you 998 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: thought he was. 999 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: Going to do is Is Hawkinson. 1000 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but lots of but that's they're throwing every down 1001 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 2: and he's also got Justin Jefferson on the outside taking 1002 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 2: up You're rolling coverages to that side, so you're not 1003 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 2: crowding the middle of the field exactly. 1004 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 3: Good point, and that you're thinking too, like, hey, this 1005 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 3: is fantasy nuggets. But Dallas Goddards got a zero in 1006 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,399 Speaker 3: fantasy in week one. You know, we were talking about 1007 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 3: how Herbs is struggling. 1008 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 2: And then we too he had like he had liked, 1009 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 2: like seven catches, but it was like for thirty five yards, Like. 1010 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: I mean, like zach Ertz is catching balls, but yeah 1011 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 3: he catches them and falls. 1012 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Down like even as Friar Moose one catch on Sunday 1013 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: or Monday night. I should say it's like a little 1014 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: tight end screen. He got two yards on it because 1015 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 2: he had to. You had to draw that up for him. 1016 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: I just think I think opponents are really forcing quarterbacks 1017 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: right now, and you see these trends in the league. 1018 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see if this continues. Yeah, yeah, 1019 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: you know, Hey, we're going to force you to throw them. 1020 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: We're gonna I think you're seeing a lot of Cover two, 1021 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: but then they're they're they're jamming everything. Yeah, condensing things 1022 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 2: in the middle of the field. Hey, we're not gonna 1023 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 2: let you go over the top here because we're in 1024 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,479 Speaker 2: Cover two. 1025 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 3: But we're even seeing the Minkas of the world come 1026 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,280 Speaker 3: down and not just sitting deep and more versatile safety play. 1027 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 3: I think linebackers are maybe getting better in coverage at 1028 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: least summer shining, I mean looking for that. I don't know. 1029 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 3: I mean Pitts, Wall or Kittle. They've done very little 1030 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 3: this year. Kelsey, there's an excuse, but all the top 1031 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,399 Speaker 3: guys are not shining now. 1032 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 2: Again, I watched all of the Bengals game against against Baltimore, 1033 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 2: and Andrews. 1034 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: Didn't really take the game over. He didn't take the 1035 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: game over. 1036 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 2: I mean he got his normal amount of targets, but 1037 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 2: the completions he did have were all shorter stuff because 1038 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 2: anytime they threw him again, he had two guys on 1039 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 2: him no matter what over the middle of the field. 1040 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: And even if it wasn't a straight coverage situation over 1041 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: the middle, there was somebody sitting there in the middle 1042 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: of the field. 1043 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: And plus he's another one that wasn't even there for 1044 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 3: week one. So I mean he didn't produce that week, 1045 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: of course, And as we think through this, I bet none, 1046 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 3: I mean, like zero have good after the catch production. 1047 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 3: Usually Kittle and Kelsey are rumbling through. 1048 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,799 Speaker 1: That's what those guys do. 1049 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 3: He had anger him on a slant. I mean, I'm 1050 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 3: even trying to think of some of the more younger 1051 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: athletic guys. I can't recall any tight end big plays 1052 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 3: this year. 1053 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: They just haven't happen. 1054 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 3: Hasn't happened. I'm sure there's something to do with it. 1055 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's part of it. 1056 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: That's an interesting I want to watch that trend over 1057 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks to see if, yeah, see 1058 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: if this is something that Okay, is this something that 1059 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: the teams, our teams are doing here specifically, and if so, 1060 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: what are they doing and how are they doing it? 1061 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 3: It's certainly trying with the Steelers offense, I mean it's 1062 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 3: not like Washington's catching balls left and. 1063 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 2: Right now, or even even tight ends against them haven't 1064 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: really hurt them all that. Joku had one catch in 1065 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 2: that game that was of any substance. 1066 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 3: But he hasn't done much a series. 1067 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: I think Kittle had three for nineteen. Like, that's not 1068 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna that's not going to beat you. 1069 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: No, right, it's interesting. I mean, even like the Raiders 1070 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 3: that they're guys just thinking about the upcoming opponents they 1071 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: had despite their struggles, they're not using the tight ends 1072 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, they drafted Mayor in the second round. 1073 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean you heard all this stuff, like Derek Carr 1074 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: loves to throw to the tight ends. Juan Johnson, he's 1075 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 2: he's done nothing nothing. 1076 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 3: Ye own deep to a Lava and Shaheed and those 1077 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 3: guys too. And scoring has been down, I mean in 1078 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 3: Week one scoring with that just across the league, it 1079 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: was a historically low scoring week. I'm interested to that though, 1080 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 3: I mean, is it our tight end is not particularly 1081 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 3: good or is there a reason? 1082 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: See, I don't think it I don't think that's a thing. 1083 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you look at this year's tight end class. 1084 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 2: All you heard was this is a really good tight 1085 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: end class. Those guys aren't even lighting it up. 1086 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: When Washington goes six tight end off the board or 1087 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,959 Speaker 3: whatever behind Laporta and Kincaid and Musgrave, et cetera, et cetera, 1088 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 3: we'll see. I think that's interesting. You know, last year's 1089 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: class wasn't strong. McBride was the first pick and he's 1090 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 3: a backup sort of, you know. Yeah, and so that 1091 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 3: group's not particularly strong. And there's some hot young tight 1092 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: ends like Jilanni Woods that are on pits, pits, you know, 1093 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 3: order that are hurt non existent, non existent. Yeah, jig 1094 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 3: took a zero in Week one. I'm just scanning the 1095 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 3: league and who is doing well. I expect the big 1096 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 3: things from Waller. We haven't seen that. 1097 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 2: I think that's and that's some of those easy he 1098 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 2: throws that the teams were willing to give up. It's 1099 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 2: not happening this year yet thus far. 1100 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 3: No, I haven't thought a guy like Hayden Hurst. Yeah, 1101 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, young guys, best friend, bad receivers. If I 1102 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 3: can catch five balls a game, you know for sixty yards. No, 1103 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 3: not happen, right, No, that's not really isn't. 1104 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1105 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,439 Speaker 3: So, I mean even as well as the Rams are playing, 1106 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: Higbee's like the third. 1107 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: Option there, he's non existent. 1108 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 3: And if you told me they scored what they did, 1109 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 3: I'd be like, Higbe should be the first tight end 1110 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 3: drafted in fantasy. Puka Nakua getting a million targets. 1111 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just think I don't know if that's 1112 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: causing causing effect, but it's something I'm going to keep 1113 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 2: an eye on. 1114 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think you're onto something there. 1115 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 2: Anyways, we're gonna take another break. When we come back, 1116 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: it's time for the Fantasy football focus. We'll go around 1117 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 2: the league and look at some of the injury issues 1118 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 2: happening out there from a fantasy standpoint, and well, if 1119 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: there's some defensive injuries, we'll talk about those as well 1120 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: offensive line injuries. There's all effect fantasy play. We'll do 1121 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 2: that in we return. He is Matt Williamson. I am 1122 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 2: Dale Lallie. 1123 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 1124 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 5: When you want black and gold balltalk, you want Steelers 1125 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 5: Nation Radio.