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Speaker 1: I'm a little duvall and this is Conversations with the Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is an ex convict, recently released after serving

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Speaker 1: fourteen years in prison. She's a speaker and master bother ate.

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome Angela Wright, live and direct in your ear checked.

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Speaker 1: She boy a little duval vibe and decent. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna start this shit off quick. I'm gonna start us

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Speaker 1: off with somebody I just met. They seeing coolest motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I need to hear your story,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna record that motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: Who we got with us? What's your name? Tell me

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Speaker 2: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Uncle Dee? You got Angela c right with you here today?

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Speaker 3: Born and raised in New Jersey. Live in Atlanta, Lakewood,

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Speaker 3: South Jersey, South Jersey. Yeah it look come from a

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Speaker 3: little small town, a two parent home father pastor. Mom

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Speaker 3: was a stay at home mom.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me first say what made me say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm talk to her? She said, Nigga, I just did

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Speaker 1: fair time, I did such and such. I was down

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Speaker 1: there with your people's in flood. And then I say,

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Speaker 1: oh shit, the fuck the.

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Speaker 2: Fuck you do? Fit?

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Speaker 1: Damn for wait, don't even tell me, come tell me

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Speaker 1: on the goddamn Mike. So before you tell us that,

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Speaker 1: let's give a quick backstory and then speed us up

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Speaker 1: to where you got to the Dope Game?

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Speaker 2: Was it the dope game? Yes? It was the game.

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Speaker 3: No, it was the dope game.

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Speaker 2: I wish it was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fri, you would have got that much time. But

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Speaker 1: it don't last as long as But go ahead.

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Speaker 3: But like I said, I was born and raised in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, come from a two parent home. Went to

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Speaker 3: college here in Atlanta. I went to Clark Atlanta University,

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Speaker 3: and once I graduated school, I never cared. I just

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Speaker 3: never went back home. I stayed here in Atlanta, and

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Speaker 3: that's how I ended up, you know, being here whatever

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Speaker 3: I talked, Ye that I graduated in two thousand and two, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: were around the same age.

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Speaker 2: I'm older. I was here in ninety six when Olympics came.

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Speaker 3: No, I came to school in ninety seven. But I

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Speaker 3: graduated in two thousand and two. Oh yeah, I came

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Speaker 3: in ninety seven.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you've been around in a long time, around

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Speaker 2: this way a bunch of times, of course, cause I've

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Speaker 2: been around. Yeah, finished telling Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So, like I said, I taught school. I was a

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Speaker 3: school teacher. I taught over at Gideon's Elementary that's on

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Speaker 3: the that's where Mechanic Bill is over like on that

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Speaker 3: side of town. Taught third grade or whatever. And I

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Speaker 3: taught school maybe about two years til I jumped, like

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Speaker 3: just said I wasn't teaching no more, and just jumped

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Speaker 3: head first in the streets. You know, I started out

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Speaker 3: in college.

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Speaker 2: Woy because you aren't making enough money in school teaching.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't that one day me and the principal end

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Speaker 3: up exchanging words. You know, I was young. You gotta

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Speaker 3: think back then, back in two thousand and two, it

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Speaker 3: wasn't a lot of young school teachers. It was still

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Speaker 3: like the older school teachers stern. You know, the LNG

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Speaker 3: dressing here, it is that it's changing. I'm young, I'm

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Speaker 3: then when she was changed, Yeah, I'm wearing my pants fitted.

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Speaker 3: I'm not wearing I don't have to wear no long

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Speaker 3: dress like I'm a nun. I'm not doing that. And

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Speaker 3: then she we would exchange words about that, and then

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Speaker 3: she was worried about like the cars that came up

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Speaker 3: of the school on my lunch break, to getting just

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Speaker 3: worried about the wrong thing, and I ended up going

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Speaker 3: off on the one day and in my head, I

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Speaker 3: was like, man, I don't even have to take this.

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Speaker 3: I make this in three days what I'm making.

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Speaker 2: So you already knew you could do that before you.

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Speaker 3: Jo, I was already. I was teaching school and in

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Speaker 3: the game. I started out counting money for these dudes.

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Speaker 3: They used to pay me like five thousand dollars a

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Speaker 3: week to count money, package it up. And you know,

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Speaker 3: when you package money, you gotta count every denomination, run

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Speaker 3: it through the machine.

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Speaker 1: All right before you before you make sure everything because

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get you in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Oh this case is oh gone, okay, we all.

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Speaker 1: Want to I just want to make sure. I don't

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Speaker 1: like to set people up there. Yeah, people talk, don't

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Speaker 1: even really, I'm not lad. I'm not wanting nah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I won't let you put me in the

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Speaker 3: trick bag anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But that's how I started out it. You know, just

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Speaker 3: got greedy seeing all that money go through my hands,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, I can broke with these cocaine.

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Speaker 3: He got it he needed. And that's how it started.

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Speaker 3: And before you know that, I had cousins down in

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Speaker 3: Panama City, Florida. So they started getting they work from

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Speaker 3: up here from me.

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Speaker 2: And then from Atlanta, Panama. They were from Atlanta, Panama City.

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Speaker 3: You got to think about it. Panama City is right

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Speaker 3: there at the top of Alabama. It's not down there

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Speaker 3: in Miami. It's at the top. So it's only four

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Speaker 2: It's quicker to get it.

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Speaker 3: It's quicker to get it. Yeah, it's quicker to get it.

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Speaker 3: That whole panhandle right there, and then Dothan, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Get y'all was pumping Florida on the low.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Parry, Florida, Yup, yup, Tallahassee that whole panhandle right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I got in trouble. My case was over the

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Speaker 3: pair hand.

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Speaker 2: How you got caught up? How you got caught?

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Speaker 3: How you think everybody told?

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Speaker 2: I know told, But like, what was the Did you

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Speaker 2: see it coming?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I seen it coming. I can't even lie. I'm

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Speaker 3: a very very spiritual person, and I always believed like

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Speaker 3: warning comes before destructions.

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Speaker 1: We let me ask you if it's not to cut

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Speaker 1: you off, but I did. How many years was you

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Speaker 1: was it running? How many years was you.

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Speaker 3: Had like a seven year run?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yep, I had a seven year run.

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Speaker 2: That ain't bad.

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Speaker 3: No, it wasn't bad.

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Speaker 2: Live good.

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Speaker 3: You know. I had a seven year run. It wasn't

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Speaker 3: worth it in the end because I got sentenced to

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Speaker 3: thirty years do ball?

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Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait, don't go there yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, don't shit.

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Speaker 3: Shit. Yeah. So okay, so not the not the you know,

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Speaker 3: get that part or whatever that spoiler.

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Speaker 1: But you know you said how much the most you made?

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Speaker 1: Like in one lick and one one one.

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Speaker 3: I tell you this one dude from.

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Speaker 2: What was you doing? Was you the mule or was

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Speaker 2: you like.

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Speaker 3: Never m do?

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Speaker 2: I look like? Check the fuck you.

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Speaker 1: Me and the mule?

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Speaker 2: Play with me? Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: No, So I can tell you this. This one dude

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Speaker 3: from Tallahassee. He used to come to Atlanta, UH three

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Speaker 3: times a week and get eleven kilos. Every like every

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Speaker 3: three days he came and got eleven kilos. So if

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Speaker 3: I was getting them for seventeen to five at the

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Speaker 3: time and I'm selling them to twenty four, that goes

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Speaker 3: to show.

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Speaker 1: You this because and I always wanted this, especially at

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Speaker 1: landa niggas, How did y'all figure out who who did

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Speaker 1: trust was serving? Because especially Florida niggas. I'm from Florida

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Speaker 1: and not know how slammy Florida niggas. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I always wondered, like, how did y'all even trust.

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Speaker 3: I met him through somebody else? But this was my

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Speaker 3: sign that I knew I shouldn't have. I should have

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Speaker 3: just stopped dealing with him.

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Speaker 2: Is that the one that fucked you over?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Florida niggas? Yeah he won? Yeah yeah, the Florida.

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Speaker 3: All the Florida dudes was in court. Marianna, Florida didn't

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Speaker 3: even know me. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. So but like

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Speaker 3: I said, I'm a spiritual person. So one night I

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Speaker 3: and the spirit said to me, you're going to jail.

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Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, it ain't funny, You're going to jail. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And guess what I didn't. Uh. I tried to shake

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Speaker 3: it off, but it was already it was already set.

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Speaker 3: And I could tell you like a year before that,

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Speaker 3: my father, he had came down to visit me, and

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Speaker 3: he stayed when it was like the tend Jake's thing

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Speaker 3: at the TD Jake's thing, and he told me, he said,

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Speaker 3: Ray Charls could see something that's going on. I was like, oh, Daddy,

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Speaker 3: you always preaching. I don't want to hear it. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to hear it. And uh he called me

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Speaker 3: one morning he said, God said you're too high mighty.

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Speaker 3: He got to bring you down. I was like, Daddy,

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Speaker 3: is too early in the morning. I don't get on

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Speaker 3: my phone with that. But guess what, those were my warnings.

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Speaker 3: Those were my warnings.

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Speaker 2: So but you raised in the good family, how was

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Speaker 3: Two pairn home. I told you my father was a pastor.

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Speaker 3: I'm the least like person that ever I was an

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Speaker 3: a b student.

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Speaker 2: Was the chase of the money.

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Speaker 3: You know what it was. It was being spoiled as

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Speaker 3: a child, being spoiled as a child. Not only this

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Speaker 3: people people, you know, people get mad when I say this.

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Speaker 3: But being a pastor child, you watch how much power

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Speaker 3: your father has. You see how people flock to him.

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Speaker 3: So that's how I chose my men. You get what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Powerful.

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Speaker 3: I like powerful men. I don't like no weak sucker behind.

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Speaker 3: I like powerful men. And then and then to see

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Speaker 3: the power that how people was drawing to my father

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Speaker 3: and stuff naturally growing up, that's how it was, because

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Speaker 3: then it's handed down to the kids. Everybody cater to

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Speaker 3: the pastor kids. And then I looked just like I

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Speaker 3: had at the well back then I grew up, it

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Speaker 3: was three of us, but my dad's remarried, so now

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Speaker 3: it's it's six of us all together.

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Speaker 2: And where was you at?

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Speaker 3: I was a middle baby. They call the knee.

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Speaker 1: Baby, the one that I always felt. They say, babies

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Speaker 1: always feel left out.

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Speaker 3: Can't be not with a mouth like mine, Capricorn New

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Speaker 3: Year's Day, everything start with me.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your jury to the mailbox. I'm fucking with.

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Speaker 3: Ship. I did not wear my.

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Speaker 2: So what happened? What did it? What did it come down?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: When did when did the drug? The bus come?

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and five started in two thousand and five

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Speaker 3: A driver got a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: They just came and set.

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Speaker 3: You up conspiracy. I got indicted by myself. They came

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Speaker 3: back and gave me a superseding indictment and gave me

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Speaker 3: the due that I was going with at the time.

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Speaker 3: They made him my co defended. And what I did

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Speaker 3: not know is he was talking. My boyfriend told.

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Speaker 1: On me, nigga, I just saw that on the trip.

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Speaker 3: Because he had already he had got he got caught,

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Speaker 3: Give you give us us, We give you ten years.

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Speaker 3: And what audacity do you have to even want to

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: So you did fifteen? I did fourteen year fourteen off

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Speaker 1: What did you when you were when you got locked up?

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Speaker 3: I was thinking I get ten years because with the fads,

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Speaker 2: To why they fucked you up while they said fuck

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Speaker 3: The amount of drugs and I wouldn't cooperate the amount

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't I got what made you stand tall?

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Speaker 3: What make you not stand tall?

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Speaker 2: Type shit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was raised that even as a child, you

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Speaker 3: You don't do that. And yes, my mother, cause you can.

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Speaker 2: That's how I feel like.

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Speaker 1: I don't fault nobody from being like, if you square,

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Speaker 2: Nigga?

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Speaker 3: I feel like, I honestly feel like like women are

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Speaker 1: I believe, not just that, I believe women are more loyal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah women that died about that loyalty. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 3: The people gave me thirty years through all as a

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you that, when when that motherfucker said thirty,

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Speaker 3: They tell you how many hundred sixty four months?

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Speaker 2: When you heard that, how did your man skills go

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly, exactly, That's exactly what I did. In my head.

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Speaker 3: I was like, twelve twelve going to thirty six automatically twelve,

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Speaker 3: You know, all the salavagis left my mind. I was

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Speaker 1: I turned around. How long you were drunk? Like you know,

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Speaker 2: Weeks? How long was you drunk?

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Speaker 3: Days? Couldn't get up? I lay did three like my

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Speaker 3: all right, my nickname is Shaye. I was like, Shay,

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Speaker 2: Long did that really come to?

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Speaker 1: Where you when you programmed your mind to say I

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I need only three days? What was saying?

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Speaker 3: I told myself I had to fight.

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Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say, like a year, like no

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, damn, I really ain't

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Speaker 1: They took my other HOMEBOYD told me it took for

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Speaker 1: I got twelve more of these motherfuckers in here.

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Speaker 3: No, I never would give into it. I just used

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Speaker 3: told my mom take him seventy five thousand dollars in

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Speaker 3: Then we turned around and paid a pill lawyer another

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Speaker 2: Pell you thank your lawyer fucked you over.

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Speaker 3: I can't necessarily say that he messed me over. It

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Speaker 3: I always say, if God had allowed me to get

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Speaker 3: I would have been or scared. I would have came

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Speaker 1: Because if they do ten years or better, you can't

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Speaker 2: Ten years.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get that nigga across that Georgia Florida line.

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Speaker 3: It took time for me to even accept responsibility. Because

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Speaker 3: No, you have to get that on you. I had

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Speaker 3: society believes that prison rehabilitates people. Rehabilitation does not take

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Speaker 3: So I just didn't have nobody there. I didn't feel

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Speaker 3: and just no, no, I couldn't turn it off. Especially

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Speaker 3: it had to get to a point, believe this man,

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Speaker 3: It had to get to a point that I had

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Speaker 3: to stop listening to g Like anytime Jeez came on,

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Speaker 3: it would take me, It would it would take me back.

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Speaker 3: I had to stop listening to it. It would take

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Speaker 3: That was my era. That was when Atlanta the Street,

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was that was.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to I had to cut myself off

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Speaker 3: You can't do it.

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Speaker 2: What did you do the past time? And there? Like

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Speaker 1: You said you you studied because you said so, you

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Speaker 3: I did? Fourteen years?

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Speaker 2: How did that happen? You did the drug?

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Speaker 1: Uh No?

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Speaker 3: In two thousand and fourteen, the Censing Commission came out

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Speaker 3: one years and ten months. And then when Trump got

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot of people believe yep, they.

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Speaker 3: You know, people say what they want to say about them.

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Speaker 3: I got denied clemency bout the Obama administration. Twice, and

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Speaker 3: like I said, I was the poster child that the

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Speaker 3: people don't know is it doesn't just go directly to

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Speaker 3: asked to prosecute in office. Do they feel like you

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Speaker 3: gonna feel like I should have got out of So

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Speaker 3: it took for Trump to be in office. So you know,

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Speaker 3: people hate him and say stuff, But to me, it

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Speaker 3: He signed the First Step Act, and my judge felt like,

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Speaker 3: you know, I had did my time and that's how

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Speaker 2: So what did you do for them fifteen?

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Speaker 1: Because even though fifteen you didn't do thirty fifteen years

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Speaker 3: You keep adding a year on it.

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Speaker 1: I can't do fifteen days.

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Speaker 3: I worked out, I taught ged classes. At one time.

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Speaker 3: I was caught up into prison, a hustle, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, trick, you know, trick to guard to

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Speaker 3: I said, in my mind, I was not going to

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Speaker 3: to receive my first reduction. So I begin to plan

444
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,720
Speaker 3: like as if I was getting up tomorrow and leave.

445
00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,800
Speaker 3: I had to put in my mind, if you believe

446
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,800
Speaker 3: in it, go home. You gotta start acting like you

447
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:02,480
Speaker 3: was going home.

448
00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,520
Speaker 2: People thought I was crazy.

449
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 1: That's a good thing you saying, because a lot of

450
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 1: people gonna talk about and I want you to tell

451
00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,800
Speaker 1: me about your first year out. That's usually the toughest

452
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,480
Speaker 1: time because now you it's like the world hits you

453
00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: out of nowhere and you got to catch up with it.

454
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 2: How was that transition for you just getting out of prison?

455
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: Sitting here in front of you only been home two years?

456
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 2: For real?

457
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been home two years my first year.

458
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 2: Out, so you're still hitting the ground.

459
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 3: I'm still running my first year out, I did my

460
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 3: I launched my t shirt line on my own.

461
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 2: Came around twenty twenty one. Was you in the pandemic?

462
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: Pandemic? Was that horrible, horrible lockdown all the time we

463
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 3: couldn't move, We couldn't do nothing.

464
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: What was what was you in Kentucky?

465
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,439
Speaker 3: Got shipped to Lexititon by then? Yeah, I but and

466
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 3: I would I was still. This is how it worked out.

467
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: I kept a jump rope so when it guards them,

468
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 3: like you know, after nine o'clock count, they really ain't

469
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:00,440
Speaker 3: coming around no more. So I'll go right in front

470
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 3: of my room and jump rope and hula hoo for

471
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,679
Speaker 3: thirty minutes, like to stay in touch. Because I used

472
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 3: to tell them girls, like it's a competition going on

473
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 3: out there, y'all ain't gonna be able to compete at

474
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 3: y'all fat and out of shape because you're sitting around

475
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 3: eating honey buns. And did you just watching TV and stuff?

476
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 3: I didn't watch a bunch of junk TV. I watched

477
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: sports and I watched news like I'm a basketball and

478
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 3: football girl. I did that, and I allowed myself one

479
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: week one hour I mean of junk TV like Real

480
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 3: Housewives of Atlanta or the Kardashians win that song or whatever.

481
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 3: But I didn't sit up and just watch stupid TV.

482
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Speaker 2: So finished tell me about now that you got out soon?

483
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, of course, I had to get

484
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: my license all over again so I did of license

485
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,119
Speaker 3: drivers like, yeah, yep, I have been.

486
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 2: Going about that.

487
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, passport, I had to get my passport.

488
00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: Oh you can get your passport. Yeah, yeah, you get

489
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 2: your passport. I didn't know you could get your not

490
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 2: even that quick.

491
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

492
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: I got my passport that first year. My case was

493
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 3: from two thousand and seven. Yeah.

494
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 2: My homeboy still Oh he got Chad support.

495
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah that's why. Yeah. And and the book that

496
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: I wrote while I was in prison, I published it.

497
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: Yeah I wish I had one here today to give

498
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Speaker 3: to you.

499
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wasn't prepared. But uh. My book is called

501
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 3: pit to Palace Mentality and the subtitle is ten key

502
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 3: Principles to See your Way through Situation. You could get

503
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: it on Amazon. It's on Amazon, or you could get

504
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 3: at my website Angela Cright dot com.

505
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,160
Speaker 2: Say it one more time.

506
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: You could get the book it's called pit to Palace Mentality,

507
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: subtitle ten key Principles see your Way through your worst Situation.

508
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: Or you can get it at on my website Angela

509
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 3: c as in Cat Right and right. It's spelled w

510
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Speaker 3: R I g H T Angela Cright dot com.

511
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Speaker 1: And it's pretty much what it's talking about your life

512
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: and how you overcame, how.

513
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: It it came, and how to help others. Like ten

514
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 3: key principles Number one I give you, I give you

515
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 3: a principal. Number one is you have to accept responsibility

516
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 3: regardless to whatever situation you ever find yourself in, like

517
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,240
Speaker 3: you have to take responsibility for the part art that

518
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 3: you played in it too. Don't become bitter. You can't

519
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 3: be bitter. Nothing comes out of bitter. Nothing comes out

520
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 3: of bitterness but brokenness, you know. And then number three

521
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: is move If you think about it, everything in the

522
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: world has movement, water, the wind, trees, everything has movement.

523
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 3: So you have to you have to stay moving no

524
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: matter what. Yeah, no matter what.

525
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: Right.

526
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: So now now that you're here, now you're here with

527
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 1: up what you need? Ask me some questions, Ask me

528
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 1: what you need, what's on your mind, what you're going through,

529
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: if you need advice with anything in life, I'm here

530
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 1: for you.

531
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: What's up?

532
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: What am I going through right now?

533
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: I would say, even with are you trying to like

534
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: you said, you still running?

535
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still running. And my goal right now for

536
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 3: this year is before this this year is out, that

537
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: I want to start a podcast. So unk maybe you

538
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: could tell me, give me some pointers of what I

539
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 3: need to do.

540
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: Podcasts like stand up. Just start doing it. It's really

541
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: that simple, you know what I'm saying. It's microphone now.

542
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: I can't teach you how to builded and stuff. That's

543
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: where you come in. And I don't like to give

544
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: people advice or anything. I like it because I don't

545
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: think you should listen to nobody. You just pay attention,

546
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't like to give advice.

547
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'm like I could shadow you every day.

548
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: I'm talking as far as like as far as like

549
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: career wise, I like to give advice to life, okay,

550
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: but with career, I could just tell you just do it.

551
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just do it like you're

552
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: doing that. Stay and what you just said a setting,

553
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: go stay emotion, Stay emotion. Even if it don't do something,

554
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: it's still practice, it's still repetition. I got this far

555
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: as just consistency, staying consistent, you know what I'm saying.

556
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 3: So another thing that I look at, you know now

557
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: that that home is that I just feel like many

558
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: these days have a lot of women tendencies to me.

559
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 3: So so like how do I how do I get

560
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 3: with the time that the time now of these men,

561
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: because it just.

562
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: Is it the older men you talking about the younger men.

563
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: We definitely not talking. I'm not stunning. The younger men

564
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: are just they're lost.

565
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, But even the older.

566
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 3: To me, they are like I.

567
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: Can see how you say that too, especially when you've

568
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: went and been down for fifteen and so you used

569
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: to a manly man and the fact that you had

570
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: to come on. I know, it's like a it's like

571
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: a culture shock.

572
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 3: So how do I adjust to this climate, you know,

573
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: like with the men with the hookahs like that. I

574
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: just don't. I just don't like it.

575
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you one thing about me when it

576
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: comes to advice. If I don't know, I don't know.

577
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I don't know, man, because like

578
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: I tell people this all the time, I don't know.

579
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who gave, but I know who ain't.

580
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: And it's meat, you know what I'm saying. So I

581
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't have no problem with it.

582
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I see the problems happening

583
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: with our black women. They getting the bad end.

584
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: In the stick, right, you know what I'm saying.

585
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: It's like, because there's only so many of us in

586
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: this motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So it's like

587
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: they get the band and the stick. So and like,

588
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that's good, good black women,

589
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: that's successful her, and it's hard for them to find

590
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: me and I be and I'd be like, I want

591
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: to find it, but it ain't no niggas out here.

592
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 1: So I don't really have no advice when it comes

593
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: to what to do for these niggas, because all these

594
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: niggas ain't like me said, I'm a great nigga, flip flop.

595
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: What I'm not flip floped. I'm what everybody is. One minute,

596
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: I give a fuck one minute I don't flip flop. Okay,

597
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: but it's in a good way. Some shit you should

598
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: give a fuck about.

599
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 2: Some shit you shouldn't, you know what I'm saying.

600
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: So I just I just don't know about men because

601
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: I be confused because I don't. I don't really pay

602
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 1: attention to niggas. I'm not fucking them so you would,

603
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: so I don't really be knowing. You know, how I

604
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: found about niggas threw bitches and fuck it. Yeah, and

605
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: it'd be like, what the fuck y'all deal with this?

606
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Because that's why I tell mom, like, you know, you

607
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: with the ship right there, because you don't have to

608
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: deal with none of this ship these that you're dealing.

609
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: With, You know what I'm saying.

610
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 3: Okay, So I got another question. What what would you

611
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: say is the best way for a woman to really

612
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: understand a man, because you know, y'all don't really express yourself.

613
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Pay attention to the same thing like a woman like

614
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: you got to pay attention to what a woman do?

615
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 1: You just pay attention to communicate asks, don't assume asks them.

616
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 2: That's what I think. Are you in a relationship now?

617
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 3: I got somebody I care about, you care about, but

618
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: what I care about we bump pigs.

619
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: Do y'all communicate?

620
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: I think communication could be probably better on my end

621
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: because I'm the type of person I go off.

622
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 2: Is that coming from your background?

623
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 3: No, I've always been like that, Like if you if

624
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: you was to if you asked me something I told

625
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 3: you and then you asked me again, and I got

626
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: to say this same thing I'm yelling a second time

627
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 3: to the top of my lungs.

628
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: You got kids. You say, oh, you say you got

629
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 2: a son? Yes? Son? Do you do that to him?

630
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? He knows I'm gonna yell. He'll be like, never mind,

631
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: You're just gonna yell.

632
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're to teach you about yourself?

633
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Because like you, cause you know this about yourself? Why

634
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: haven't you tried to change it? What have you tried

635
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: to check yourself?

636
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: I do be saying on myself.

637
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: No, sometime when I have an outburst and I yell,

638
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: I say to myself, Shaye, why did you just yell

639
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: like that?

640
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: And do you acknowledge it right then and nip it

641
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: in the bullet.

642
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't apologize. I'm stubborn, which is another problem, which

643
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: is it's another problem.

644
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: But you gotta work on them problems.

645
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.

646
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: But you gotta start working. You gotta. You gotta put

647
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: forth effort right now. I will. I'm I gonna do

648
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: right now something.

649
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: You got to bite the bullet, I know, especially if

650
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: you say you wanted people like ain't nobody finishes?

651
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 2: Bah, you gonna you gotta bite the bullet.

652
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 3: And then to another thing about me. I have such

653
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 3: a strong personality, you know, and I'm like tomboy. I like,

654
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm like a nigga because I've been

655
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: so much, you know, so I think.

656
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: Too that whe the right the right man.

657
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: There's some like I told my old lady, she's like that,

658
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: but right around me, she turned to a puppy.

659
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 3: He softens me. He does do that, and he's the

660
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: total opposite. That's what I'm trying, something new to my

661
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: whole entire life.

662
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Speaker 1: I've always dated and you dated people that was on

663
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna always fight. You need somebody solt because they

664
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: gonna calm you down. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

665
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just think, I don't know. I just think,

666
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't.

667
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: How long y'all been dating?

668
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: Eight months?

669
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: Eight months?

670
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: Y'all still chilling, y'all still just let it play out,

671
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: don't let you do. It's because from what you're said, so,

672
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: he's doing the right's youth. Sometimes you know it's you

673
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's.

674
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: Me, but it's also him too, because he's so laid

675
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: back and like, no, not like like me, Like yeah,

676
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: I would. I want him to be laid back, but

677
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: I don't want you to have that nachial lot like

678
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: like something don't bother you. When it's bothering you, you

679
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: need to say it bothered you, don't act like it.

680
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 2: Don't bother you about is it something your relationship about me?

681
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, so if I went

682
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: out of town and I ain't call like the whole weekend,

683
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: just tell me.

684
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: Why you ain't called because he had pissed me. Ship.

685
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: She's tripping, man, you're tripping man.

686
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: Don't be just starting ship, especially what you just starting ship?

687
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: Fu.

688
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got the man.

689
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: Don't be for what what you got here. I been

690
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: with some pity.

691
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: Because he said I always he was venting, and I

692
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: interjected myself.

693
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: He spoke to you, and then now you said he

694
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: needs to talk to you, and you see what happens.

695
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: It's huge, niggas.

696
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: It's something my uncle gonna do.

697
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: Me.

698
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: Now down and open up and ask you.

699
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: And this is the way you love. It's tough love.

700
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: Come on, man, don't run that. Don't run that good

701
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: man off.

702
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah he works, he has a job.

703
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: You just said, it's hard to find niggas out here.

704
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: He's soft as niggas. And come on, don't don't lose that.

705
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Don't lose that.

706
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: It's just an adjustment too, you know, like I said,

707
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: I've always dated drug dealers, you know, so it's just.

708
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: An adjust It took adjustment for me to be around

709
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: square guy because to me, if you were in the

710
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: street niggas, you was just I couldn't hang with Like

711
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm not disrespectful.

712
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: I just felt like you ain't supposed to be all right.

713
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: But that ain't they.

714
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you know what, what what I've learned is

715
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: he's not corny. You know, he's not corny. It's it's

716
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: just an adjustice for me. Yeah, it's just adjustment.

717
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: So you just got to do the adjusting. Yeah, so

718
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: that's all it is, just to just reevaluate. Just check yourself.

719
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: You gotta check yourself. You ain't gotta let everybody know

720
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: you're checking yourself. But you know when you're wrong, because

721
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: I know you know you're wrong because you just said

722
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I such and such and such and such.

723
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: You know you're wrong. So check yourself before you get

724
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: this nigga to check up out of you. Because if he.

725
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: If he was og and he stuck, I mean he's established,

726
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna deal with no stress. That's the last

727
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: thing we want. This is you on you you will

728
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: say fuck it because it's another girl that's hoping to

729
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: find a good nigga, you know, not to act like

730
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: we like like we could do what we want to

731
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: do backt the same time, it's it's just too much.

732
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 2: Out here to be around here, be stressed out. So

733
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: don't do that to your people.

734
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: All right. So my takeaway is adjustment.

735
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: Adjust, adjust, Adjust and check yourself.

736
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: Adjust and check myself.

737
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: It's my action. So adjust, No say check fuck adjust, check.

738
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: Yourself, check myself.

739
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: Oh your good man, check out his head busted the

740
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: white meat? Yeah you, but no, man, I appreciate you.

741
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: Couse anything else you want to ask anything?

742
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got my takeaway.

743
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: You got your takeaway, and you can pull out that

744
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: to everything in life too, not just your relationship. It's

745
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: an everything in life because, like you say, you're still

746
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: on the ground running, because especially in this game, it's

747
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: gonna be people that's gonna say some shit to rub

748
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: you the wrong way, and especially if you've been a ship,

749
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: you don't tolerate no.

750
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: Disrespect at all.

751
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: But you got to sometimes say you know what, you

752
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because you ain't gonna gain ship

753
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: from what you're gonna do. You know what I'm saying,

754
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: So you gotta say, you know what, fuck this ship.

755
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: It's a bigger purpose. It's a bigger thing. This little

756
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 1: ship here. I dealt with way worse shit than this shit.

757
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: So fuck And like you say, they square out here.

758
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: That's what makes it even easier. You know, you were

759
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: so used to being around tough shit that you want

760
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: to be. But then when you get around the squall

761
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: shit and they do ship the square away that tough shit.

762
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: Don't work around that ship. So you gotta be you

763
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: gotta kind of soften that ship up and take that

764
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 2: street ship. All that shit we was tall, were young,

765
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: it's worthless when you get this age. Yeah, that's true.

766
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: Being aggressive, being tough, being being hard, it's worthless when

767
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: you get this age. It is, you know what I'm saying.

768
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: So and sometimes too, like when you're saying, like a

769
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: lot of dudes feeling the older you get it, don't

770
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: be femin it's us. I think man gets you get

771
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: more understanding and soft and an emotion. You touch into

772
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: your emotions. And I used to see it a lot too.

773
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: When when I used to see my og the niggas

774
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: is older and member like Man, that nigga acting soft,

775
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: But it wasn't that. It's just you get older and

776
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: you see it for what it is, because I see

777
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: me now.

778
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: The older I get, the more I cry. I be

779
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: crying about simple ship.

780
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: You cry with movies, not movies, but like happy shit,

781
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: like when people do happy shit.

782
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when I cried.

783
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: I post about Michael J. Fox today and I cried

784
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: about that motherfucker, yeah, because I was like, Man, this

785
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 1: motherfucker's a tough motherfucker to be going through all this stuff.

786
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: It's just I admire him going through the what do

787
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: he got the Parkerson this season? For him to still

788
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: have the same the same energy and still be happy,

789
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: still make jokes thirty years because he had had that

790
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: shit for a long time. And then I just saw

791
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: an interview He's like, yeah, still here and I'm tired

792
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know how long i can do it.

793
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, he's been fighting this shit for

794
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty years. So stuff like that be making me cry

795
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: where I wouldn't have cried when I was younger, But

796
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: now it's just simple happy shit make me cry. You

797
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like if some tough shit I

798
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: turned back to I can tough shit. That shit don't

799
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: bother me, like when Nigga's talking. That shouldn't even be

800
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: soft shit to.

801
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: Make me cry.

802
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I got my takeaway.

803
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: You have to take away check myself. All right, Well,

804
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.

805
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

806
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great journey in your life,

807
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: not just your career, just your life.

808
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: You know, what's your end game? Let me ask you that,

809
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: what's your endgame in life?

810
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: My end game is to leave my son and them

811
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 3: in a better position than when I then I came

812
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: into the world into I really want to tackle that

813
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: mass incarceration, you know, tackle that mass incarceration, that butcidivism rate.

814
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm so passionate about kids, do Walter. It's just you know,

815
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 3: at nature, you want to do it for the people. Yeah, yeah,

816
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: you know, And it's it's way. It's not even about me.

817
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just a vest with that God is using. Yeah,

818
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 3: it's not about me at all, and I understand that,

819
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: you know, so I move myself out of the equation.

820
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: I just want to help this generation to.

821
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: You know why.

822
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: It's smart too, because first you said your kid he's

823
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna be grown. Then you gotta find another purpose, not

824
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: just that, but you found purpose outside of all that.

825
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: But you're programming it now. I remember what I was

826
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: saying about programming.

827
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: You already programming because that time gonna come when your

828
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: son gonna say, all right, I don't need you mama

829
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: no more and fly your grandkids they ain't gonn But

830
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: you still got purpose and everything else for your own

831
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: personal fulfillment. And that's where you're gonna find it.

832
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: Are you good?

833
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, you got to go to school, you know.

834
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: Just control that goddamn temple, right, just control that ship?

835
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: You good?

836
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, I gotta control my temp You're good.

837
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Keep that nigga around because he gonna control it. She

838
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: ain't want to hear that all at y'all this bit.

839
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for listen to another episode of Conversation with Me,

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00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Little Duval.

841
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: We got this bitch.

842
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: Don't miss an episode of Conversations with Listen to subscribe

843
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,480
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844
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,480
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845
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and our executive

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00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: producer is Dolly Bishop and produced by Aaron A King Howard,