WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 21 with Bart Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the e A podcast with Eric Allen. Take it Away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thanksgiving week, bart Scott in the House. Speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>Bart Scott in the House, what are your plans for Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what, Well, you know, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>on the air working, so it's almost like I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>a player. But the great thing is I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to get hit. I'm not sad. Rather I win or

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<v Speaker 1>lose because I don't. I don't have a permanent record,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be done at four o'clock, so I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>in at UM twelve. And I think this year we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try something different. Um the wife and the family,

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<v Speaker 1>just something intimate. We're gonna stay in the city. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna cook Thanksgiving dinner at home. We're gonna bring

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<v Speaker 1>it to the hotel with us, and we're gonna roll

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<v Speaker 1>around in the city, probably go look at the tree

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<v Speaker 1>lit up. What the tree doesn't get lit up to

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<v Speaker 1>the Wednesday, We're gonna probably go ice skated or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I'm gonna do something kind of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to switch it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and let the kids look at the lights and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hang out now, you were saying, and before that, the

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<v Speaker 1>way your hotel is situated is that you might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see the parade, the Macy's Day parade go

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<v Speaker 1>right by Thursday morning. Right, Well, I thought I could

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<v Speaker 1>because I thought I thought the parade went through Fifth Avenue,

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<v Speaker 1>So I was gonna get a room at the Peninsula.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got a connection there. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>it goes down the Broadway, but I'm still on fifty four,

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<v Speaker 1>so if we want, we can kind of just step

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<v Speaker 1>out and see him go by on fifty I believe

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<v Speaker 1>we coach throt or something like that, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>check it out that way. But you know, it's only

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<v Speaker 1>an easy walk. It just depends on if the wife

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<v Speaker 1>wants to be dealing with all the craziness, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's gonna be barricaded and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>get funneled and stuff like that. The funnest time we

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<v Speaker 1>ever had is, or the most access we had, is

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<v Speaker 1>we had like a roped off part at Trump Trump

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<v Speaker 1>Hotel right there in the circle right where it stops,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So that was cool, But you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>out there a long time holding kids, on on your

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<v Speaker 1>head and it's one of those things that sound good

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<v Speaker 1>but unless you got like the bleacher seats or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, Like Saturday, it felt like the world

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<v Speaker 1>was coming to an one. I was down in Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>was seventy degrees and a couple of hours later and

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<v Speaker 1>the winds started whipping. The sky got dark and ominous.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the end of the days. Man. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, what's going on? So you can't eat Thursday though,

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<v Speaker 1>because those guys, I've seen the spreads that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have you treated pretty well at the NFL today. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to refrain from taking all that in? Well? You, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. We have the early game, so we're good.

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<v Speaker 1>So our game, our game started at twelve o'clock. We

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<v Speaker 1>got the first game. It's always you always hope when

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<v Speaker 1>you have to work on thanksgive, you always hope you

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<v Speaker 1>got the first game. Because you got the middle game.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's that's even worse because your game starts at

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<v Speaker 1>the four you have, which is good game this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of those crossover game. Yeah, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great game for me because I grew up in that tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I grew up, you know in Detroit. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was always something that we could be proud of

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<v Speaker 1>it because no matter how bad we we were, the

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<v Speaker 1>people we were the two teams. It was usually it

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<v Speaker 1>was only two teams. You know, back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>They just added the third team since the whole NFL

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<v Speaker 1>network became more popular. But it used to be Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>at twelve, Dallas at four, and it's still that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever go to any those games? So you

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<v Speaker 1>just watching on TV and watching on TV family members

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<v Speaker 1>that went to that game. But we have a parade

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit as well. But for us, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>Turkey Bowl. We go out and play football before the

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<v Speaker 1>actual game actually come on. So you guys were playing

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<v Speaker 1>the morning because we were talking about your turkey Ball

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<v Speaker 1>last week. Is that you guys would get out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood before, like you said, the twelve thirty games,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're probably playing what ninth thirties, Yeah, the little

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<v Speaker 1>turkey game. Go out there, has some fun, get all

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<v Speaker 1>louther dup get hungry. You know, you know the food

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<v Speaker 1>isn't ready at twelve o'clock my first game, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you start smelling the smelling the food. You eat a

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<v Speaker 1>good breakfast. You know. Sometimes you wake up everybody make

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<v Speaker 1>the biscuits and the pancakes and and the bacon and

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<v Speaker 1>the sausage and the ham and the hash browns and

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<v Speaker 1>the grids, and you go to town that way after

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<v Speaker 1>the turkey d you know, after the turkey bowl, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, it's just a fun experience with the

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<v Speaker 1>great thing about thanks Giving and why I like things

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<v Speaker 1>giving a lot more than I like Christmas, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about receiving something. It's about fellowship. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>spending time with each other. It's about you know, stopping

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<v Speaker 1>and reflecting about how blessed we are, how fortunate we

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<v Speaker 1>are to be. Whatever situation you are, it's always somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that's willing to trade with you, that thinks that they

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<v Speaker 1>have it worse, that would love to trade with you

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<v Speaker 1>in any time. So it puts, you know, Thanksgiving put

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<v Speaker 1>you in the right perspective. I think Christmas is too commercialize.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more about you know, what we get and measuring

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves by the gifts that we give to others. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of that, do you do anything on Black Friday? Hell no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can't stand I'm not about that like, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather wait three months and get on discount, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not about to sit up there and be fighting over

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<v Speaker 1>a toy. So the Scott family will will not be

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<v Speaker 1>out Friday. Shot about that when you guys be back,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're talking about some family coming to town, right,

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<v Speaker 1>are you gonna have like a post Thanksgiving celebrations that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys will be in the city on Thursday. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've always used to to that situation, but usually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have family come down and visit, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't and once I come home from work, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of joined with it. But this time me and

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<v Speaker 1>a wife wanted to try something different, something in me

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids. See how we can just be together,

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<v Speaker 1>have things, giving dinner and actually been the city and

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<v Speaker 1>mess round to kind of played to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I am in the city and then they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about, you know, taking an hour and a

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<v Speaker 1>half of me to get back. I'm already there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>soon Stu is over with. I come straight from the studio,

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<v Speaker 1>which is probably two minutes from from where the hotel is,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can just kind of have some fun. Who

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<v Speaker 1>were your favorite line players growing up for Loman's Brown. Yeah, Lomas,

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<v Speaker 1>Luther Ellis, I'm going all the way back, um, Herman Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Brett Perriman, Johnny Morton when they were fun, when everything

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<v Speaker 1>was wide open. I can't stand Scott mentioned yeah but yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah yeah but he oh man, he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like the Rob Johnson side. And he had one

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<v Speaker 1>great year with Miami, you know, uh, cashed in and

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<v Speaker 1>came to Detroit. The whole left. Yeah. Herman Moore was

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<v Speaker 1>a beast. Brent Perriman was like a you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because Perriman is playing for Ravens now his his son,

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<v Speaker 1>and Johnny Morton. It was exciting because you had Luther Ellis,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Chris Spielman, you got Robert Foscha. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>had the Blade brother, you had one of the Blades,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, I don't know who which one

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<v Speaker 1>it is. So it was Benny. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>Benny Blake, you know. So it was a time where

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions were actually pretty good. What about Barry? How

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<v Speaker 1>old were you when Barry was in his prime? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I remember in high school playing at the Silver Dome,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember Barry was like getting busy three too,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were coming out the field from practice as

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<v Speaker 1>we were going for our game. He's like, get busy

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<v Speaker 1>three too. It's like, yeah, yeah, Berry said something to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So like you gotta think with you know. That was

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<v Speaker 1>probably like two years before he retired. I think Barry

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<v Speaker 1>got in and maybe ninety or nineties. Yeah, Barry maybe

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<v Speaker 1>got in the league at like need ninety one something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So, yeah, I watched all the Barrio's career

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<v Speaker 1>because at that point I was watching football all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean to you? And he just randomly

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<v Speaker 1>pick you out and say, yeah, I was walking by. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you can always tell who the sweet player.

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<v Speaker 1>But high school I had my girl, I was looking sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I had three to you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>twos usually, and in high school you can tell the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of the players because you know, the players get

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<v Speaker 1>to pick the number they want. So you see guys

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<v Speaker 1>with ten, eleven, thirty two, because you know everybody you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to wear a number four position, so guys

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<v Speaker 1>want the sweet numbers, you know what I mean? Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>seven three. You know you ain't gonna seen No. Forty five,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five. You're not respecting that in high school? Who though,

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<v Speaker 1>who was winning? Thirty two? Thirty two is my number

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<v Speaker 1>for everything, man, So it was Magic Johnson's number. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like thirty two was like all the sweet players

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day was wearing thirty two two. I

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<v Speaker 1>think so, yeah, Magic war thirt two. You know he's

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<v Speaker 1>from Michigan. You no doubt you ever wonder what it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, uh, tackling a guy like Berry from your

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<v Speaker 1>perspective as a linebacker, it was one of It was

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<v Speaker 1>the most disappointing thing in my career because he quit

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<v Speaker 1>so early. I just wanted a chance to take a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at him, did you you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think he retired. I think Bard retired and

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand, two thousand or two thousand one. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the league in two thousand two. What did it

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you? Could you imagine that he's said something

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<v Speaker 1>to me in high school and I would have had

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to tackle him? What do you say that

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<v Speaker 1>anything to him? I have to tackle him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or miss him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I would have. I mean I would have been

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<v Speaker 1>one of those guys like Barry. Can I please had

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<v Speaker 1>his jersey please, because differently did that start the jersey stuff? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Like now, because I talked about that the NFL too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it just started happening, maybe a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago because of these guys like that. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't seem like a guy that would you would be

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<v Speaker 1>good with that. I could see you doing that with

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<v Speaker 1>Berry Sanders. Maybe no locker room or something. Only only

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<v Speaker 1>only jersey I ever, I ever took on the field

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<v Speaker 1>was one of my former teammates, like Jared Johnson, like

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<v Speaker 1>making me a jersey man. That's because we were we

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<v Speaker 1>were friends, we played against each other and we both

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<v Speaker 1>went separate directions, just going up to random guys like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>j j let me get to let me get your jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's I don't know. You see it happen all

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<v Speaker 1>the time around here, like dude, you just lost and

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<v Speaker 1>now you just high five. And I couldn't this man,

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<v Speaker 1>I took it so serious. I couldn't. I couldn't after wards,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't sit down and we can't pray together, like no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be No, I'll say my Lord's prayer when

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<v Speaker 1>we get in and we say the Lord's prayers the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not holding your hand and talking to you. Coom

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<v Speaker 1>bay y'all, No, bro, I just try to kill you

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit six and four. Do you obviously obviously you're a

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<v Speaker 1>commentator now and you're an analyst now, but the part

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<v Speaker 1>Scott who grew up there, do you kind of root

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<v Speaker 1>for them on the side, hoping that they do well

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<v Speaker 1>people in the community, You No, don't, don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confused. I'm a Lions fan, yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>always will be a Lions fan. Um, I'm happy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matthew Stafford is really his team now because now

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<v Speaker 1>I call it addition box attraction because he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Johnson to lean on. He's playing a position where

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<v Speaker 1>he's going through his progressions. He's throwing the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>who's supposed to get the ball. He's not just forcing

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to Calvin Johnson so he can have his

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twelve you know. Um, you know attempts or

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<v Speaker 1>or or targets. So you think that just forced the

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<v Speaker 1>growth because spottom line is when you have somebody like that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a crutch, but it's just up. I can

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<v Speaker 1>throw it up and I know it's Carmelo ball. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the ball to Carmelo and let's everybody watch

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<v Speaker 1>him instead everybody feeling like, let me run my route

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<v Speaker 1>because if I'm open, you know he's gonna throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to me. There is a big game for them

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<v Speaker 1>at six and four. That and so the six and

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<v Speaker 1>four and remember Matthew Stafford. They've been behind in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. I believe every game this year that they've won,

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<v Speaker 1>and Matthew Staffords come up big and you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty much a match because they took Minnesota to overtime,

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<v Speaker 1>uh last time, and Matthew Stafford made that crazy throw

0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.600
<v Speaker 1>to get it to a field goal range for like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seconds ago, a couple of weeks ago, my point.

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<v Speaker 1>So this time, you know, the Minnesota virus have been sputtering,

0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, they have been sputtering downhill and they finally

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<v Speaker 1>got to win against Arizonia today. And now this is

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<v Speaker 1>for the division. Whoever wins this one is in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place in the division. And who thought that we

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<v Speaker 1>would ever be having this discussion because right now Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay looks vulnerable. They just got demolished two weeks in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. I mean, they I mean, every time Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers came back, Kirk Cousins came back with an equally

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<v Speaker 1>big play, just throwing the ball down the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't like him, but I think he's playing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better. He was struggling early on this season. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know I didn't agree. I didn't think that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was asking for top five money and he got

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<v Speaker 1>franchise and he bet on himself. And you know, right

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<v Speaker 1>now he's winning because now I love this Crowder kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He played with so much energy and passion. He's always

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<v Speaker 1>getting open vertically. And I watched them take at least

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<v Speaker 1>four vertical shots they threw. They had to have Crowder

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<v Speaker 1>played it through. Yeah, they had to have at lease

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<v Speaker 1>at least five plays over forty yards. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember one of them going to de Sean

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<v Speaker 1>jackson't even Sean Jackson play yesterday. But you know they

0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.960
<v Speaker 1>went to Crowder, they went to Garth song Um. The

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<v Speaker 1>running back was growing crazy. So now green Bay is vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>So this game is even bigger because it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two team racing this division. Now I think

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<v Speaker 1>green Bay has done. They're old, they're slow, they're not deep,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's gonna be some major decisions made

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<v Speaker 1>in the offset. What's coming up on today Thursday morning?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know yet? Because there's always something emotional that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tug because with the season we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>family and also people on need and things like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>well just just think, just think about who's um, think

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<v Speaker 1>about who's who's playing. So the Vikings are playing, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure be something you know, very heartfelt about Danny Green. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I want to give away everything, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it would be something we're reflecting. He gives

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<v Speaker 1>a little juice here on the podcast. I'm saying what

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else know that? What's your favorite Thanksgiving food? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>It usually be like the ham and the turkey, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the star has always been a stuffing. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I told you my wife does a great

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<v Speaker 1>job with the sage sausage stuffing off the chain. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what next time she makes it, I'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>you something, Okay, sage sausage stuffing. You know a favorite

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<v Speaker 1>dessert on Thanksgiving? I know you're watching Bart. Bart's looking

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<v Speaker 1>pretty swall on TV because he likes to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and get the morning work. No, no, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>inspire me man, because you are ripped up. We call

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<v Speaker 1>it rippling. Still a sexy billion wired your wiry, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. So it's harder for me to

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<v Speaker 1>look like you because I'm so much bigger. So I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta try and shrink down and try and look like you,

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<v Speaker 1>but a bigger version. Okay, all right, So you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>eat dessert? How many half to? Yeah? Yeah? Absolutely, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't give it. I mean, you just you just got

0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta you just gotta run it off. What

0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:07.800
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna have? Um? My mom always makes banana

0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.920
<v Speaker 1>put it, and you know it's crazy. My my co

0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:14.559
<v Speaker 1>hosts on on my on my radio show, I always

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<v Speaker 1>say Danny, Amanda Laura. I always want to say Amadola.

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<v Speaker 1>He came and he actually shot a show by my mother.

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<v Speaker 1>She stepped him. How she makes it banana putting makes

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<v Speaker 1>the the meringue out of egg whites, and she beats

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<v Speaker 1>it by hand and then whips it, put the sugar

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<v Speaker 1>in there and it makes them ringue. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>makes the put in out of the flower vanilla abstract

0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff makes the banana putting that color.

0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.400
<v Speaker 1>She it makes it all by hand, and she made

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<v Speaker 1>the mom's bananas putty. Okay, So I love pumpkin pie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish more people and my family would make

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<v Speaker 1>sweep potato pope. It's it's kind of the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's weird. It's kind of the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's funny. It depends on what part of the

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<v Speaker 1>country you're from. It depends on like, because black people

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<v Speaker 1>don't make pumpkin pie. They always make sweetpotato pie, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. But you know, people in the South,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, make more sweet potato pie too,

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<v Speaker 1>and up north it's more pumpkin pie, and more Midwest

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe more pumpkin pie. I tell you what, what

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<v Speaker 1>nobody makes, so I don't think they make I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hear a lot of people making apple pies anymore. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>apple pies seems more like a spring that's not not

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I would agree with that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>apple pie has kind of it's kind of fell off.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to be American, you know, it's the most

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<v Speaker 1>American thing that you got. American is apple pie? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, peace Kylbers coming there a little bit. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the blueberry Kilbers kind of snuck in there, and then

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<v Speaker 1>everybody loves the cakes and makes cakes. You know, my

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<v Speaker 1>godmother makes a hell of a seven up upside down

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<v Speaker 1>pound cake. Yeah, pound cake. It feels like temper. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even playing. I don't know, you know how like

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<v Speaker 1>most of the ways more than fat Man like her

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<v Speaker 1>cakes per square uh inch man, it's like heavy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like gravel or something that's but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>seven up. They sprinkle seven up and they make the

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<v Speaker 1>inside of the batter. And they asked this like lively

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<v Speaker 1>lemon zessity taste to it. Chat's Patriots, What does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean to you as a player of that rivalry? Because

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<v Speaker 1>before that we always talked about it right here in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio during your first years, is it jet it

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<v Speaker 1>was you came from that monster rivalry, your South Baltimore Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say what The Patriots um rivalry is a little

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<v Speaker 1>different than the than the Stiller's Ravens, because that one

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<v Speaker 1>was always so violent, so physical. This one was more

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<v Speaker 1>about playing chess. It was about what was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the game plan and adjusting to it and out executing

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots and also making the plays and they presents themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>See the Ravens still is just about two cars on

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<v Speaker 1>the track, and there's no Dodge and no fair Didge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the tougher, the tougher guy wins. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the tougher guy usually wins if you can get you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hits on Brady early. But if you're not making the

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<v Speaker 1>plays and making adjustments to their formations or whatever their

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<v Speaker 1>game plan of the week, it's it's tough sledding. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was more of a mental um sparring and physical

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<v Speaker 1>sparring here than it was just a physical and and

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<v Speaker 1>and so Steelers Ravens was a battle made for phone booth. Yeah,

0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.720
<v Speaker 1>it was a phone booth fight. That's basically what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, okay, nobody's stowing jabs. If you're not

0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>throwing the power punch and you can't you remember Harlem Knights. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ain't breaking up Zo, you got you break

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<v Speaker 1>up Bazooka. And the smallest thing you bring is a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve game. That's a that's to to a Ravens game.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you when you talk about if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to use that same analogy, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>bring a sniper, you gotta you gotta bring some of

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<v Speaker 1>precision if you want to outthink. Uh, you know Bill Belichick,

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<v Speaker 1>he's one of the best to ever do it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hate to get him credit, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>get credit where credit is due. I feel like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times when you were the player here that

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets would were ground and pound outfit. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>think about Thomas Jones, you think of Sean Green, you

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<v Speaker 1>think all those guys. You tried to run the football

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<v Speaker 1>and then defensively they'd approach you. Guys like you said

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<v Speaker 1>with that chess match, and because they did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to and they don't signing respect, is that they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to make it a physical context. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>spread your out and then try and get you out

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<v Speaker 1>in space and get somebody to mess up communication. So

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<v Speaker 1>they knew man for man, they really couldn't deal with us,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially you know the few games. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>one or two that we had Chris Jenkins like that

0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.680
<v Speaker 1>was game over. You know, if we could have kept

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Jenkins healthy, Yeah, I think that you don't play

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<v Speaker 1>with him much. Do you ever wonder what the defense

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like with the like that? I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have won two Super Bowls with Chris Jenkins

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<v Speaker 1>because they would he would have ate up a whole

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<v Speaker 1>another person and we would have been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>things that you know that you know, you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>us not really having pass rushers when when he was here,

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<v Speaker 1>but if he was on the field, you gotta put

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<v Speaker 1>two on him. So now you get a lot, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more one on ones on the outside, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do when we're blitzing on the inside,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's gonna clear everything out for everybody he was.

0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.760
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the most dominant forces I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you look back at your career, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that's opportunity missed. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Could you imagine him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, can you imagine having him when we went

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<v Speaker 1>to Pittsburgh and pushing the pocket on bend. So now

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<v Speaker 1>band can't step up and step out all he has

0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>he can move out a retreat. He couldn't step up

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris is pushing the pocket and you know, wearing

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<v Speaker 1>pounce y'all that that run game that they tried to have,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have been over with you because now because

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<v Speaker 1>now Pouha is coming in as a rotational guys like

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<v Speaker 1>him and the Vito your your guys coming in fresh

0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:33.520
<v Speaker 1>in the rotation, like I mean, that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest regrets, you know, not playing with such a

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<v Speaker 1>dominant and he were so strong up the middle because

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<v Speaker 1>behind them, of course, or you and David, you wouldn't

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.399
<v Speaker 1>have been ever I mean, we always had great run defense,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wouldn't have been ever wrong. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>then Pace, I know he set that in. Yeah he

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<v Speaker 1>was do you Guys in the business always considered him

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<v Speaker 1>the best edge run center in the national football him

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<v Speaker 1>and Jared Johnson the most physical edge setters. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And you then that would have

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<v Speaker 1>just allowed you know, Trevor, how do you block Trevor?

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<v Speaker 1>It would have been over even at his age. How

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<v Speaker 1>would he went back? How would you? How would you block? Yo?

0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Sean Ellis, you can't. You can't. You you couldn't because

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<v Speaker 1>now you've got so much problems with him. You talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the best time I guaranteed the combination of Chris Jenkins,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I got much respect for Mohammed and

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<v Speaker 1>I got much respect for show that riding. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a different, different type of beast. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you had Chris Jenkins and Sean Ellis together. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, all you have to do is probably

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<v Speaker 1>looked to the year before I got here and see

0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.600
<v Speaker 1>how dominant that was because he was healthy that year.

0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>And you know, now, Sean Ellis was an angry person.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an angry and no district Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>no dispect to Mohammed or Sheldon, but they're not angry

0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like like Sean Ellis was an angry black man. May

0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe one of the most angry black man I've ever

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.600
<v Speaker 1>been around. So he played angry, he walked around angry.

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:01.879
<v Speaker 1>He he was so talented, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about the Jets all time, Lady Patta get

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, now you put him next to its right

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<v Speaker 1>up there obviously Guest and all those other guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. But no, I think he broke those records.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was. I think he was. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>all time. He was like seventy sacks or something like that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>eight sacks, Yeah, yeah, but he as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>all time, he wasn't like want to top the list,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had a great career at the at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, Like you're saying, because Sean is

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<v Speaker 1>not a guy who said his locker and talked to reporters,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know he's when when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Jets careers, he's one of the in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the franchise him. You can say Sean Abraham, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know Sean Abraham and John They they don't had

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<v Speaker 1>a long gevity that he had here. He played here

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<v Speaker 1>with thirteen years something like that. And Abe, you're right, Abe,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they traded to Atlanta, I believe, and they got

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<v Speaker 1>mangled back. Okay, so real quickly, this game itself a

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<v Speaker 1>lot he has been made as far as this we

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<v Speaker 1>tape before Todd Bowls made his starting quarterback decisions. So

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<v Speaker 1>by now you're listening to podcasts at home, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that Todd Bowls has either announced Ryan Fitzpatrick is the

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<v Speaker 1>starter or Price Patty. We're taping right now. He has

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<v Speaker 1>not announced that just yet. If Ryan Fitzpatrick has named

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<v Speaker 1>the starter, than what I mean he's named the starter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're they're they're making sure that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not making any decisions until about the future, until

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<v Speaker 1>the president is over. You know, they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Okay, let's make sure we're not we're mathematically

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<v Speaker 1>still in it, you know, before we make a decision.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because fitz Patrick, I think, still gives them

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<v Speaker 1>more options. You know, Bryce Petty is the future. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be the future. That's it could be a future.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's been a lot of runners going on

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<v Speaker 1>about Tony Romo and all that type of stuff. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to you know, that's that's all season stuff

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<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, you got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you take care of business and you're not done until

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. If Petty starts, and this is something I

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<v Speaker 1>laughed about. A lot of people said, you can't start

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<v Speaker 1>them against the Patriots, and I was always of the

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<v Speaker 1>belief that, hey, listen, he's not playing against Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>If he does get to start type Bowls, is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make whatever decision he thinks it's best for his team.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out there in the practice field, he knows exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what is gonna put his team in best position to win.

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<v Speaker 1>But if they start Brace Potty against New England, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not playing against Tom Brady, well, you know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is is it's the respect for Bill Belichick and his

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<v Speaker 1>record against rookie quarterbacks. I think the only rookie quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>they ever beating was maybe Ben Roethlisberger and Mark Sanchez,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so he it's a it's his record out

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<v Speaker 1>there about how he does against rookie um quarterbacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not good. So if you hear people saying that

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<v Speaker 1>it's only because of the respect of the stat which

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<v Speaker 1>people take say all the time, it's the status has

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<v Speaker 1>been going around, you know, in the media for I

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<v Speaker 1>believe the last five or six years, right, and listen,

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<v Speaker 1>whoever plays quarterback against young want to be honest with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be underdog any what what a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>is you don't have to worry about pass rush because

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<v Speaker 1>without Jamie Collins, without Chaneler Jones and uh jabral Share,

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he's um in the dog college. That he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even travel to San Francisco. That's twenty five sacks

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<v Speaker 1>from last year. And you've been outspoken about that that

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots have made a number of moves that that

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<v Speaker 1>have impacted their defense. So we'll have to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family will be watching

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<v Speaker 1>out there, say all good