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Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing great? Happy Thursday, Happy Jackie Robinson
Speaker 1: Day on this April fifteenth, and Chris I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is today's still tax day? I don't even because you
Speaker 1: know last year got around. I will be going out
Speaker 1: to file my tax. Oh okay, you haven't done it yet, Hall,
Speaker 1: that means we've done everything. We just gotta you know, man,
Speaker 1: heil it out. Yeah, that means you. That means you're
Speaker 1: right in the check if you ain't said it out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's a blessing. But you know, you still hate
Speaker 1: to see it go. I still hate to see it go.
Speaker 1: But but definitely well and you know, Robinson day to
Speaker 1: you too, no doubt. And we'll talk about that Chris
Speaker 1: in the second hour, just about his impact and if
Speaker 1: anybody else ever lived up to what Jackie Robinson did
Speaker 1: back in nineteen forty seven and after. So we'll do that. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great show, and we we we
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Speaker 1: get into basketball, football, a little bit of baseball, as
Speaker 1: Rob says, So we're gonna have a lot of fun
Speaker 1: and let's start right here. Rob a game that I
Speaker 1: was really looking forward to. Some people thought would have
Speaker 1: been the biggest game of the year, or at least
Speaker 1: the rest of the season for both Philadelphia and Brooklyn
Speaker 1: because of the seed implications, the tie breaking implications for
Speaker 1: the top two teams in the Eastern Conference. And yet
Speaker 1: it was a dud. It was, I mean, it actually
Speaker 1: turned out to be fairly exciting because the Nets made
Speaker 1: a rally. Yeah, but that was the mop up crew.
Speaker 1: And you gotta be careful. I mean, Chris, you're right.
Speaker 1: The score looked great, like it was this barn burner,
Speaker 1: but they were down. Philadelphia took its foot off the gas, right,
Speaker 1: and then the reserves, who don't get to play that much,
Speaker 1: they went out there and they balled out, you know.
Speaker 1: So it looked like that was get up off the
Speaker 1: bench and go back out there and make sure they won.
Speaker 1: But the reason it was a dud was because Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant was out for the Nets. Blake Griffin was out
Speaker 1: for the Nets, James Harden was out for the Nets.
Speaker 1: LaMarcus all Dridge was out for the Nets. Kyrie played
Speaker 1: but he had sat out the game before. And Rob,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and you know you and I
Speaker 1: of course, as do all the other analysts, on TV
Speaker 1: and you make picks, right. We pick who's gonna win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, we pick who's gonna win the NBA title,
Speaker 1: and this and that, and you want to be right.
Speaker 1: You want your picks to be right. It's not so
Speaker 1: much that you're a fan of that team, but you
Speaker 1: want your picks to be right. As an analyst, you
Speaker 1: do obviously, you want to be able to You don't
Speaker 1: want to be on TV or radio every day and
Speaker 1: be wrong all the time. You know, you want to say, like,
Speaker 1: I picked that team and they want and that that
Speaker 1: tells you my expertise and I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what everybody is wrong. I mean, nobody's
Speaker 1: perfect time and people a lot of people are wrong
Speaker 1: more than they're right, and they're good analysts. But if
Speaker 1: we were all right, Chris, we would be living in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas and we wouldn't be doing this. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: just be honest. And there's a little bragging, right, especially
Speaker 1: with the ACA, but we have fun with each other.
Speaker 1: There's a little bragging, right, So you want your pick
Speaker 1: to be right. So I do one, and we both
Speaker 1: actually picked the Brooklyn Nets to win the championship. I
Speaker 1: do want them to win it because I want my
Speaker 1: pick to be right, but I gotta say this, Rob,
Speaker 1: I'm a bit torn. I'm a bit torn because if
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets win this championship, which I'm with that pick,
Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it, I don't think it'll be good
Speaker 1: for the NBA. I don't think it will be good
Speaker 1: for the NBA because what they are attempting to do
Speaker 1: is wholly unprecedented. I mean, if they win this championship,
Speaker 1: and I know they're an aberration because they got so
Speaker 1: much talent that most teams wouldn't be able to do this,
Speaker 1: But if they win the championship, I think the view
Speaker 1: of the regular season for the next few years will
Speaker 1: never be the same because they have essentially flouted the
Speaker 1: regular season. They're treating the regular season like it's the preseason.
Speaker 1: Real talk. Kevin Durant sat out on the second night
Speaker 1: of a back to back. Okay, I kind of get it.
Speaker 1: He could have played it mat probably wasn't even his decision,
Speaker 1: so I'm not jumping on him. But he could have played,
Speaker 1: or he could have sat out. If you had to
Speaker 1: sit out, sit out in Minnesota and played the National
Speaker 1: TV game against a top team in the league. Kyrie
Speaker 1: Irving sat out the game before, Kyrie taking three subbaticals,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's going through something mental, but and I
Speaker 1: want to be sensitive to that, but everybody got challenges,
Speaker 1: but you still show up for work. He's done three subbaticals.
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge is out for some undisclosed illness COVID related.
Speaker 1: You can go to the Clippers last night. Paul George
Speaker 1: sat out for Rest on the second night of a
Speaker 1: back to back. That's why he sat out. But my
Speaker 1: point is robbed if they win. Not to mention, they
Speaker 1: got a first year coach, never coached at any level.
Speaker 1: That's not unprecedented. But still their big three have played
Speaker 1: seven games together and if they win this championship, believe
Speaker 1: you me, it's gonna be more of this next year.
Speaker 1: Where Kyrie duran hardened just sitting out randomly, maybe not
Speaker 1: hardened because he tends to play. He's legitimately hurt with
Speaker 1: the hamstring. But and you know, Rob, it's a copycat league,
Speaker 1: and I think, just like people copy grang Popovitch who
Speaker 1: started this all this Rest, this could be copied as well.
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't think it'd be the greatest
Speaker 1: thing for the NBA. Chris, I got two things to
Speaker 1: say to you. First, don't worry about your taxes today.
Speaker 1: It was extended. The irs moved into May seventeenth, So
Speaker 1: you're good. But the wife is okay. But I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you you're not gonna be late May seventeenth. It's extended.
Speaker 1: Thank you to the people who hit us up on
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter. All right, yes, but you are a
Speaker 1: day late, a dollar short. About this wrecking the NBA.
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you. The NBA has
Speaker 1: already been ranked Chris Broussard. Lebron James wrecked it when
Speaker 1: he went to Miami and built that super team. Yes,
Speaker 1: he wrecked the NBA. From that standpoint. You remember when
Speaker 1: Lebron went to the NBA Finals eight years in a row.
Speaker 1: You remember that, Oh yeah, out of the East, okay,
Speaker 1: greatness Okay. And then Lebron James, I keep saying, started
Speaker 1: my Space and the Warriors one up them, started Facebook
Speaker 1: when they added Kevin Durant the Warriors in their run
Speaker 1: they went to the NBA Finals five years in a row.
Speaker 1: We got an overdose of Warriors basketball. First time since
Speaker 1: the Celtics of the sixties, did a team go to
Speaker 1: the NBA finals five years in a row? So now
Speaker 1: you're saying the nets because they've had some injuries, some
Speaker 1: guys haven't played, Chris, you know this because of the
Speaker 1: But I'm saying it not because of their greatness. No,
Speaker 1: you're talking about because of the right. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: Lebron James, during his time with the Cavaliers, his second stint,
Speaker 1: took his foot off the gas, didn't play hard, miss
Speaker 1: some games because he realized being the number one sees
Speaker 1: didn't matter. And so Lebron has already done this, and
Speaker 1: the nets are saying, we're not gonna kill ourselves. I'm
Speaker 1: with you as if I'm a fan and Chris, if
Speaker 1: I was a fan pre COVID and I bought tickets
Speaker 1: to a game and these guys are sitting out. If
Speaker 1: I was ESPN last night, I want to refund on
Speaker 1: my NBA deal last night. I'm serious. Now that kills you.
Speaker 1: That I'm telling you. People tuned in and went, Okay,
Speaker 1: what marathon is on? Is there a wire marathon? Or
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Christa, let me binge watch
Speaker 1: something else because I wanted to see the big game
Speaker 1: showed out against Philadelphia and the Nets and it didn't
Speaker 1: materialize because only Philadelphia was playing with a loaded gun. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, and that's the thing. And
Speaker 1: the players have to realize this. First of all. The
Speaker 1: owners when they have to collective bargaining agreement and talks again,
Speaker 1: the owners are going to bring this up and it's
Speaker 1: going to be a sticking point they're going to There's
Speaker 1: gonna be some type of clause likely put in there
Speaker 1: that players need to start playing. Because, as you said it, Rob,
Speaker 1: this isn't so much punishment for the players, although it's
Speaker 1: your job. It's your job, right right, But beyond that, Rob,
Speaker 1: you hit it on the head, it's the fans. It's
Speaker 1: not fair. First of all, your ticket prices are through
Speaker 1: the roof, as all sports are. And so if I
Speaker 1: if I put down two hundred dollars to take my
Speaker 1: three sons to the game because I want to see
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George the Pacers in person, and
Speaker 1: they're sitting down the bitch in street clothes, not injured.
Speaker 1: If they're injured, I get it, But if they're not,
Speaker 1: they're just sitting there. Come on, So I but where
Speaker 1: I disagree with you? Robbed though, Come on, man, First
Speaker 1: of all, the NBA is far from ruin. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can say what you want. It was great for
Speaker 1: the league, only one two out of four, I know,
Speaker 1: while they were just app competitive, but it was still competitive.
Speaker 1: And let me do this eight seven seven ninety nine
Speaker 1: on Fox Chris. Let's throw out the number in case
Speaker 1: people want to chime in. Eight seven seven nine nine
Speaker 1: six sixty three sixty nine. If you want to talk
Speaker 1: about this, yeah, would it be bad for the league?
Speaker 1: Call in now? Would it be bad for the NBA?
Speaker 1: If Brooklyn wins it, just because of the precedent it's setting,
Speaker 1: other teams may follow. The regular season will be diminished
Speaker 1: even more. That's my that's my concern, right. I want
Speaker 1: Brooklyn to win it, but that's my concern. I hear
Speaker 1: your concerned. But we're already in that era of super teams.
Speaker 1: Only a couple of teams have it. Lebron started at
Speaker 1: Chris and now everybody's one uped it. So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I've said before, if Lebron was my Space and the
Speaker 1: words were Facebook, I guess the Nets or Instagram Now,
Speaker 1: I mean it is it is a out of control
Speaker 1: monster tesla or something. I mean, I mean, it could
Speaker 1: be the best of all of them. It's just the
Speaker 1: point that this is where we are and and it
Speaker 1: is bad. And when I say it's ruined, I mean
Speaker 1: what I consider competitive balance. We'll probably never see a
Speaker 1: starless team like the Detroit Pistons in two thousand and four,
Speaker 1: be the star started team like the Los Angeles Lakers
Speaker 1: with Kobe and Shaq who had already won three in
Speaker 1: a row Chris and then added two more stars and
Speaker 1: I know they were aged, but Gary Payton and called
Speaker 1: them alone. So I don't think we'll ever see another
Speaker 1: team like that win a championship. And that that's sad
Speaker 1: to me because that was unexpected and that was great
Speaker 1: only because it was nobody that columnists in Detroit. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's sitting there. Oh my gosh, Detroit. It
Speaker 1: was so great. The first of all, they had talent.
Speaker 1: You know that ivolved getting in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Rashid Wallace was a top number one pick type talent.
Speaker 1: But your point is well taken, but Rob remember that. Look,
Speaker 1: they were the second team in like the last forty
Speaker 1: smite years to do that. It was the Seattle Supersigonics
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine and then the Detroit Pistons in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Outside of that, it's always been
Speaker 1: star studied teams. And my thing is this, I first
Speaker 1: of all, I actually do think there's competitive balance this
Speaker 1: year because I think while Brooklyn is stacked, Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: a legit contender, Milwaukee is a legit contender, and then
Speaker 1: robbing the West. Yes, the two LA teams are great,
Speaker 1: but you can't sleep on Denver, especially before Jamal Murray
Speaker 1: went down. That's unfortunate. Phoenix is looking surprisingly good and
Speaker 1: Utah is there now. I think the LA teams are better,
Speaker 1: but these aren't scrubs that they're just gonna step out
Speaker 1: there and walk over. So I think competitive balance is there.
Speaker 1: Number one and number two. We all love the eighties,
Speaker 1: you and I that's when we grew up watching you
Speaker 1: start covering the NBA in the eighties. Yes, yeah, and
Speaker 1: there were I mean, rob only five teams actually made
Speaker 1: the finals forget winning. It made the finals in the
Speaker 1: eighties and it was the Golden era. So I'm fine
Speaker 1: with dominant teams. I don't have I didn't have a
Speaker 1: problem with Golden State going to five straight finals or
Speaker 1: Lebron going to eighth straight finals. My problem is when
Speaker 1: the regular season becomes belittle to such a degree that
Speaker 1: I can't even I can't count how many big games
Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to watching, and because guys are
Speaker 1: out for injury or rest or whatever, they're not a
Speaker 1: big game anymore, no doubt. All right, Chris, we got
Speaker 1: a few calls. Let's jump on these. Justin and Mobile Alabama.
Speaker 1: You're on the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up, guys? How are you man? All right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree with you too, though, because like how about
Speaker 1: the last Dance would motivate players to to to to
Speaker 1: strive and be stronger? And you know, Geordan really take
Speaker 1: rest stays like Rent stays. What is that? You know?
Speaker 1: Like Jordan last year in the NBA as a forty
Speaker 1: year old, Yes, his last year and and uh and
Speaker 1: you know and uh and uh. And I don't blame
Speaker 1: Lebron for what he did. Now. Kevin Durant was a
Speaker 1: different topic because he went to a team that beat him.
Speaker 1: But Lebron, y'all keep Stephen keep saying that he built
Speaker 1: the super team. But I always thought the Stiltons built
Speaker 1: the superteam. The Celtics made trades. The two the two
Speaker 1: players they brought in were trades. They weren't free agents,
Speaker 1: thanks for they were. Yeah, but but it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't built the same way. That's all I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: David Lefraine players that that games up on Lebron. Can
Speaker 1: you name Hall of Fame Claia that Lebron I played
Speaker 1: with before? Yes? No, yes, but you yeah, but Shock
Speaker 1: was old by that point. Like, I'm with you in that.
Speaker 1: And I actually wrote a column before Lebron went to
Speaker 1: Miami saying he may have to team up with a
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame teammates to contend with the Celtics. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the call, that sat So I'm with you on
Speaker 1: that one. David in Oklahoma, you're on the I mean
Speaker 1: you're on the Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that? No, oh, David? Okay, Matt in Missouri, you're
Speaker 1: on the Dan Patrick's show, Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Matt, Hey, fellas,
Speaker 1: how's it going. You're doing great job filling in for Dan.
Speaker 1: Thank you because I've never called it to Dan show.
Speaker 1: Six foot twenty Okay, big dude, all right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh so I live in Missouri. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: a Lakers fan, have been my entire life. Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: when the Lakers come to Oklahoma City to play the Thunder,
Speaker 1: we try to get tickets. That's the only time I
Speaker 1: can get to a Lakers game. And I don't know
Speaker 1: where you guys are going, but three tickets for two
Speaker 1: hundred dollars would be super cheap. Oh no, Chris, we're
Speaker 1: just making it up, right, we know that that's not
Speaker 1: the Yeah, if you don't want to sit up on
Speaker 1: the top row R And if I show up to
Speaker 1: a game, I'm shelling out four or five hundred bucks
Speaker 1: and the Lakers best players aren't playing because they're resting.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a killer to me. You know,
Speaker 1: have you done that? Have you gone to a game
Speaker 1: there and and a top player was resting? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had back in Uh oh, I'm with when they
Speaker 1: had Howard and Nash. Now, I know they had some injuries,
Speaker 1: but they were players that weren't playing, that were just
Speaker 1: resting that time. And it's it's super disappointing. I feel like,
Speaker 1: if they're going to rest, they should have to rest
Speaker 1: at home game. Yes, not on the road. I agree, Matt,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Thanks for the call. Thanks guys. We can
Speaker 1: we squeeze one more? And Chris, Yeah, one more? John
Speaker 1: and Dayton, you're on the you're on the Patrick's showy
Speaker 1: talking to you guys, usually listening in the evening. It's
Speaker 1: fun hearing you in the morning. Thank you, Thank you, mam.
Speaker 1: We will be on the night too. We're doing double duty.
Speaker 1: We don't rest double different couple. Yes, yeah, I kind
Speaker 1: of have a different take on the rest thing. I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, we saw a few years ago
Speaker 1: one of the Warriors blew out a knee in the finals,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I wonder if that's not a sign that,
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are overdoing it. Although I really
Speaker 1: like the suggestion from the last caller that if you
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to rest, maybe rest on
Speaker 1: a home game. But sometimes I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think that when I when
Speaker 1: I hear about these players getting injured, I wondered, sometimes
Speaker 1: if it's if it's worth saying no, they got to
Speaker 1: play every night, because you know, there might be a
Speaker 1: kid in the stands of his hoping to watch him play.
Speaker 1: I think it's in the Age two games schedule. It
Speaker 1: might be part of the part of the game. It's
Speaker 1: just a different take on it. All right, appreciate to call.
Speaker 1: All right, good calls, guys, and we got plenty more.
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Speaker 1: Great time to have in our next guest. He is
Speaker 1: an ESPN Draft analyst and you will be able to
Speaker 1: see him across all of the ESPN platforms. Uh as
Speaker 1: the as we near the two thousand and twenty one
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and that'll be Matt Miller as soon as
Speaker 1: uh he joins us here on the Dan Patrick Show.
Speaker 1: But uh, Rob, what are you most looking for? Look?
Speaker 1: We know at the top of the draft it's Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence going number one, and it's looks like it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Zach Wilson going number two to the Jets. What
Speaker 1: are you most looking for forward two in this draft?
Speaker 1: To be honest, it's just the who's the first pick
Speaker 1: after that? I think, like the first pick after Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson or period. Well, I'd just like to see, like,
Speaker 1: who's the first pick in Okay, Well, then there's my excitement.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean something, Parker. No, I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: watch the highlights of the draft and I'll you know,
Speaker 1: find out. But I'm just follow drafts in the past, Christian.
Speaker 1: I've been doing sports talk radio since nineteen ninety four
Speaker 1: and follow drafts and follow people's mock drafts and stuff,
Speaker 1: and everybody's different. And most people, don't, you know, are
Speaker 1: like at fifteen or twenty percent clip right, So I
Speaker 1: just I think it's I don't think anybody really knows
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I think Matt Miller
Speaker 1: would beg to different. Well, I want to find out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna find out. Matt Miller. Welcome in.
Speaker 1: How we're talking. I'm doing well, guys, appreciate you have Mils. No,
Speaker 1: it's great to have you. Now. Look, we were just
Speaker 1: talking about it. It seems like the draft's gonna begin
Speaker 1: at number three. As Trevor Lawrence number one, Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: number two to the Jets. Who do you think San
Speaker 1: Francisco's taking at number three? I think they take mac Jones, n't.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because a few weeks ago it was like
Speaker 1: all mac Jones. Then it seemed like lately people talking
Speaker 1: about they might take justin fields, and now there's some
Speaker 1: trade lance talk, but you're still go with Mac and
Speaker 1: tell us why yeah, So here's the deal. You're right.
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, when the trade happened, everyone said, sounds
Speaker 1: like they're trading up for mac Jones. I think what
Speaker 1: we're seeing happen. There's a lot of folks like myself
Speaker 1: saying it should be justin fields or it should be
Speaker 1: trade lands. But I think what you're saying, like my
Speaker 1: mock draft, Melchiver's mock draft, Todd mcshay's Daniel Jeremiahs. Everybody's
Speaker 1: mock draft still has Mac Jones to the San Francisco
Speaker 1: parting the nine Ers, because a mock draft is based
Speaker 1: on what we think will happen, not what we would do.
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you if they fired John Lynch today
Speaker 1: and offered being the job, we would not be drafting
Speaker 1: Mac Jones the number three overall. But you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of the bed that they've made. And I hope,
Speaker 1: I really do hope, because I think Justin Fields is
Speaker 1: a fantastic quarterback prospect. I hope the affording nine Ers
Speaker 1: are just messing with us. You know that. It's just
Speaker 1: like they're having a little fun. But here's the deal.
Speaker 1: They're on the clock. As you guys very correctly pointed out,
Speaker 1: we know who the number one pick is, we know
Speaker 1: who the number two pick is. Everybody knows. There's no
Speaker 1: history here. The Niners are on the clock, and when
Speaker 1: you're on the clock, you don't have to lie. It's
Speaker 1: just like Jackson, though we knew who they're a picking,
Speaker 1: not just because Trevor Lawrence is the best prospect, but
Speaker 1: because urban Meyer has basically told everybody, including Peter King,
Speaker 1: that's who they're gonna draft. So I think with the Niners,
Speaker 1: they're doing their due diligence on a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: But you don't trade up from twelve to three without
Speaker 1: knowing who you're going to take. So I think for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, it feels like the Pickies they're
Speaker 1: pretty locked in on it. Now. You you mentioned justin
Speaker 1: Fields and you like them as a quarterback. But is
Speaker 1: the Ohio State misses with quarterbacks? Is that? What also
Speaker 1: hurts him is that so many you know, they've won
Speaker 1: a lot of games during the Big Ten and all
Speaker 1: the other stuff that's going on with that program. All
Speaker 1: these guys have come out, but few have panned out
Speaker 1: or been big stars as quarterbacks. Is that a part
Speaker 1: of it? It shouldn't be if it is, like whoever decision, Yeah,
Speaker 1: whoever's making that decision as a general manager will be fired,
Speaker 1: Like you can't. You can't win in this league by
Speaker 1: overlooking you know, that would be like looking at Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow last year and be like, well, JaMarcus Russell was
Speaker 1: a bust, so we'd better not drive. But I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't happen. I call it when people scout
Speaker 1: the helmet, not the player, because you're looking and being like, well,
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins was a bus. Dwayne Haskins was a bus
Speaker 1: because he couldn't stand a strip clubs during COVID had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with on field, right, He didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to develop because he was making bad decisions
Speaker 1: off of it. So I think with Justin Fields, a
Speaker 1: lot of it is that people are looking at that
Speaker 1: game against Northwestern when his number one receiver was out
Speaker 1: and he had a bad day. He really did. He
Speaker 1: had a bad day. But every other quarterback is allowed
Speaker 1: to have a bad day. Zach Wilson's allowed to have
Speaker 1: a bad day against Coastal Carolina, but Justin Fields has
Speaker 1: one without his best receiver and a lot of other
Speaker 1: players on that team due to COVID, and he runs
Speaker 1: into a defense that has two All Americans. One will
Speaker 1: be a first round pick this year in Greg Newsom
Speaker 1: has a great and Pat Fitzgerald. He has a bad
Speaker 1: day and people like, Okay, well he's not good. He
Speaker 1: can't get past first progression. That's not true. He did
Speaker 1: it against Clemson routinely getting the third and fourth progression.
Speaker 1: So I think what happens, guys, is we overthink prospects.
Speaker 1: I've fallen trapped to it as well. It happens, and
Speaker 1: you try to understand why it happens. You try not
Speaker 1: to do it again, but we overthink players. And I
Speaker 1: think with Justin Fields, he's been good for so long,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of fatigue involved with that, and
Speaker 1: everybody likes the shiny new toy instead of really digging
Speaker 1: in on the player that we've known has been good
Speaker 1: for a long time. Matt Miller, ESPN NFL Draft Analysts
Speaker 1: joining the Dan Patrick Show. All right, Matt, we saw
Speaker 1: a great article yesterday, I think came out yesterday and
Speaker 1: SI dot Com on Trevor Lawrence, and you saw the
Speaker 1: quotes that have some people alarmed and others think they're fine.
Speaker 1: From Trevor Lawrence saying, you know, well about Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: saying he's not driven by Super Bowls. He could his
Speaker 1: high school coach says he could walk away right now
Speaker 1: and be fine, you know, walk away from football. Trevor
Speaker 1: himself saying it's unhealthy just to obsess over, you know,
Speaker 1: getting better and I gotta get better at this and that.
Speaker 1: What is your take on this? And also from people
Speaker 1: you're talking to around the league? Obviously still going number one,
Speaker 1: but has this cause given some people some pause on
Speaker 1: how great they think Trevor Lawrence will end up becoming?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yesterday, this is all I want to talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday and even this morning. I woke up and
Speaker 1: I had a couple texts about it because peoply like
Speaker 1: madn't you see this? Yeah? And these are people in
Speaker 1: the league. It's a little weird. Yeah, people within the
Speaker 1: NFL and it I'm gonna be honest, it's it is.
Speaker 1: It's it's not what you're used to from a quarterback prospect.
Speaker 1: And I was trying to I'm a big Trevor Lawrence fan.
Speaker 1: I think most people are. But I'm sitting here this
Speaker 1: morning even trying to think, who's the last great quarterback
Speaker 1: who didn't like need football? Like Tom Brady is forty
Speaker 1: three years old and like seven Super Bowls and he's
Speaker 1: still driven to just beat people and compete and be
Speaker 1: the best. You know, Aaron Rodgers the chip on her
Speaker 1: shoulder from being a Juco quarterback, from falling in the draft.
Speaker 1: I think to be a great quarterback, you have to have,
Speaker 1: whether it's real or created, you have to have something
Speaker 1: that pushes you and drives you. And you know it's
Speaker 1: like especially because like football is hard in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and if you don't love it, if you don't need it,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be easy to like, Oh, well, I made
Speaker 1: my money, I'm set for life. I'm good. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that Trevor Lawrence is wired like that. And I
Speaker 1: think you would hope that, like, once he gets into
Speaker 1: the league and gets a little more like a taste
Speaker 1: of what it's like as a professional, he would almost
Speaker 1: fall in love with it a little bit. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, reading it, I was a
Speaker 1: little concerned. It was just like it reads like a
Speaker 1: guy who likes football but doesn't love it, and it's weird.
Speaker 1: Is his my sound? That is one of the first
Speaker 1: questions as an evaluator that you have to ask is
Speaker 1: does this guy love football or does he just like it? Like?
Speaker 1: What how invested is he in this game? You know,
Speaker 1: is this his livelihood or is he something he loves?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a matter of do you like playing
Speaker 1: football or do you want to be a football player.
Speaker 1: Do you know what my pushback on that? And I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. And if you want somebody who's
Speaker 1: going to just give you the raw rad and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I live, breathe, and drink football, there are those guys
Speaker 1: and they can't play, you know, or they're not that good.
Speaker 1: So you could take that guy because he gives you
Speaker 1: the spiel that you want to hear and how much
Speaker 1: he loves football, but he's not talented or not talented enough.
Speaker 1: So isn't that you got to be careful of that.
Speaker 1: Just because a guy is has a diverse personality or
Speaker 1: or life and you know it's not the end all
Speaker 1: be all, doesn't mean he can't play the sport and
Speaker 1: isn't talented. No, absolutely not. Those are different things. But
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at when so Trevor
Speaker 1: Larrence has never lost, like he's lost two games college.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to the team that was last year
Speaker 1: the worst in the NFL. If you don't absolutely love
Speaker 1: football and you go two and fourteen next year, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be hard like that. We talked to quarterbacks every year,
Speaker 1: guys who've never lost in college, and the first picks
Speaker 1: the top five picks and they go somewhere. Sam Donald
Speaker 1: goes to the Jets starts losing. He's never experienced that before.
Speaker 1: It's hard for these guys. And I think you have
Speaker 1: to have that little thing in you that pushes you
Speaker 1: to be better and to compete. And I hope that
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence has that because he's one of the best
Speaker 1: quarterback prospects that we've seen in the last fifteen years.
Speaker 1: But when things get hard and complicated and you're not
Speaker 1: having the success and it's not as much fun as
Speaker 1: Clemson was, like, what's gonna push you to be better?
Speaker 1: And like the quote from Sports Illustrated doesn't really make
Speaker 1: it sound like he has that push to be better
Speaker 1: when this adversity strikes again. I hope that that's not
Speaker 1: the case. And like maybe he's just kind of a
Speaker 1: laid back guy. You know, justin Herbert last year, that's
Speaker 1: the thing, very laid back. Some people really didn't like
Speaker 1: that about him. And he was the third quarterback drafted
Speaker 1: ball play too exactly, so you can you can be Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a guy who's pretty laid back, And you know,
Speaker 1: I love football, but I don't need it that's okay.
Speaker 1: That's a well adjusted human being. Right. I don't need this,
Speaker 1: but I love it, And I think that's the key is, like,
Speaker 1: do you love this enough that when it gets hard,
Speaker 1: that you're gonna push through and try to be better
Speaker 1: at it? All? Right, Matt, you mentioned Trey Lance earlier,
Speaker 1: and obviously you know a lot of people aren't that
Speaker 1: familiar with him because he played in North Dakota State.
Speaker 1: So tell us about him first, what his game is like,
Speaker 1: what you like or don't like about him, how you
Speaker 1: think you'll do it the next level, and where you
Speaker 1: think he could end up going into draft. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: love Trey Lance. Unfortunately we only got to be one
Speaker 1: game in twenty twenty because of COVID, But if you
Speaker 1: have to two thousand nineteen guys, he threw twenty eight touchdowns,
Speaker 1: ran for twelve touchdowns, it didn't have one interception. It's
Speaker 1: like video game numbers watching him play, and he's strong's
Speaker 1: sixty three, he's two twenty five, compact, he's athletic, he
Speaker 1: can move to extend the play, he could move to run.
Speaker 1: He's coming out of a system at North Kota State
Speaker 1: that's very pro style in terms of how much he
Speaker 1: was asked to be under center, how much he was
Speaker 1: asked to turn his back to the offensive line. It
Speaker 1: was more of a run heavy scheme. He wasn't throwing
Speaker 1: the ball forty or fifty times a game, but he
Speaker 1: was accurate. He's got a very good deep ball. I
Speaker 1: think he just has to clean up some mechanical things.
Speaker 1: He has to speed up his process a little bit.
Speaker 1: But when I watched Trevor Lawrence trade Lance, I see
Speaker 1: someone who will start in the NFL for a long time.
Speaker 1: Maybe not as a rookie, he'll start in the NFL
Speaker 1: for a long time. And I think his stock is
Speaker 1: he could go forward to the Atlanta Falcons, he could
Speaker 1: go nine to the Denver Broncos, or we could see
Speaker 1: a team trade up to select him, because he really
Speaker 1: is a nice prospect. He's young as well. You know,
Speaker 1: he's twenty years old and as a red shirt freshman
Speaker 1: was the best player in the FCS level. So that
Speaker 1: says a lot about you know, his ability and what
Speaker 1: type of player you're getting, what type of maturity you're
Speaker 1: getting as well. A lot of people in the Phil's
Speaker 1: not usually high on drafting a tight end in the
Speaker 1: first round. What about Kyle Pitts and what kind of
Speaker 1: player he is and where is he going. Yeah, Kyle
Speaker 1: Pitts is not just a tight end. That's like I
Speaker 1: heard someone said the other dend I love this. You
Speaker 1: gotta take the initials off the front of his name
Speaker 1: because he's just a special all around athlete. He as
Speaker 1: well could go number four overall, he could go five,
Speaker 1: he could go six. I think he's pretty much locked
Speaker 1: into one of those three spots, four or five or six.
Speaker 1: The better question might be who drafts him, because we
Speaker 1: could see a team trade up to select him. We
Speaker 1: could see Atlanta just say he is the best non
Speaker 1: quarterback in the draft. We're gonna take him right here
Speaker 1: at four. So I don't think he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: very long wait on Thursday night, because he really is
Speaker 1: one of the one of the best players in this draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think him, Trevor Lawrence, and Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: from LSU are all right there in that conversation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was going you mentioned he's more than a tight end.
Speaker 1: I could easily see him playing a lot of wide out.
Speaker 1: Talk about that, and also is their account like current
Speaker 1: guy in the NFL that you would kind or even
Speaker 1: historically that you would compare to Kyle Pitts. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: guys are in our chuckle at us, I think. But
Speaker 1: I've compared him to Mike Evans the wide receiver for
Speaker 1: the ten years, because I I just haven't seen I
Speaker 1: remember watching Mike at A and M and he was
Speaker 1: so big. He was like two thirty five, but he
Speaker 1: just boxed people out and he was just you could
Speaker 1: tell he was the most athletic guy in the field.
Speaker 1: And I remember writing any of my scattering report of
Speaker 1: him just being like, I don't know where he's gonna
Speaker 1: play in the NFL. You might have to move around
Speaker 1: a little bit, but anywhere you line him up, he's
Speaker 1: gonna win. And I feel that way about Kyle Pitts too.
Speaker 1: You can line him up out as an X wide receiver,
Speaker 1: you can put him a tight end, you can make
Speaker 1: him an H back. Wherever you put him, he's so
Speaker 1: athletic that he's going to win. And so I think
Speaker 1: that's what makes him so exciting is that I've never
Speaker 1: seen a player like him, like Kyle Pitts, because he's
Speaker 1: actually a little bigger than Mike Evans. He's running a
Speaker 1: low four four at six six, two forty five. This
Speaker 1: aren't many dudes like that. And you know he's a
Speaker 1: decent blocker. That's what he gets lost two people like
Speaker 1: oh to white out. He's actually a pretty decent blocker too,
Speaker 1: So you can just like, don't take him off the field,
Speaker 1: draft him, leave him out there all three downs, get
Speaker 1: him the ball as much as you can. Matt, great
Speaker 1: stuff man, We appreciate it. He's an ESPN Draft analyst
Speaker 1: and you can check him out over the next few
Speaker 1: weeks on all ESPN platforms. I'm gonna get ready for
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. Great stuff man, We
Speaker 1: are from Matt. I'm gonna check out your percentage on
Speaker 1: how many of you nailed in this draft. I want
Speaker 1: to see you know well, in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: we'll redo this. We'll find that hit right, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, brother, thank you very much. We appreciate you. Guys.
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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by my partner, Rob Parker. We are
Speaker 1: the Odd Couple and we are coming to the live
Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And Rob, do you
Speaker 1: really follow You've really tracked the NFL draft mock drafts
Speaker 1: and it's is it about fifteen twenty percent accuracy? I
Speaker 1: you know, I just say that I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is, but I saw it really sounds low, no,
Speaker 1: but I saw last year. I remember seeing something and
Speaker 1: it was and I'm not picking on mel Kiper, but
Speaker 1: it was mel Kiper and some of these guys, Todd mcshaye,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't pretty Chris, like they're there. I was
Speaker 1: just stunned at how many misses they had, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I get it. It's real hard
Speaker 1: you don't and you know, teams are sending smoke signals signals, right,
Speaker 1: they don't want the other teams to know who they're
Speaker 1: gonna draft, right, Why would I tell? I mean, I
Speaker 1: just being honestly, if you were a GM, would you
Speaker 1: tell me, No, You're not gonna tell who you're gonna
Speaker 1: pick it? No? I agree? So so, but you're they're
Speaker 1: looking for a team's need, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and then who's available some of the players. Other teams
Speaker 1: are telling you about the teams, but they they may not.
Speaker 1: They don't necessarily know what other teams were doing either.
Speaker 1: But that's how a lot of this works. Yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I haven't I've always heard that, you know,
Speaker 1: the accuracy was really low, but I haven't really done mine,
Speaker 1: done a check on it, like you. But uh, all right,
Speaker 1: let's stick with the NFL robe yesterday, Um some news. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see how big it is, but it's certainly a
Speaker 1: big name. And the Cleveland Browns, who were on the
Speaker 1: rise eleven games they won last year, made the playoffs upset,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean in just dire straits, rob I
Speaker 1: mean the COVID racked entering that playoff game with Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: and they still win. Uh. And then they played Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Now granted, uh, Pat Mahomes was hobbled, but they played
Speaker 1: Kansas City tough game. Yeah, they were a game game.
Speaker 1: It was they definitely, um you know, made their fans
Speaker 1: proud with that performance. And then yesterday they go out
Speaker 1: and they signed Jadeveon Clowney and I still robbed. I
Speaker 1: still can picture that hit in college. You remember that
Speaker 1: hit in college where that didn't that just put him
Speaker 1: on everybody's map when he drilled that dude in the backfield.
Speaker 1: And he's had a nice career. I think he's made
Speaker 1: three Pro Bowls, but you know, hasn't like been Aaron
Speaker 1: Downald or anything like that. But anyway, the Browns go
Speaker 1: out and sign him. He's had some injury problems. Mishalf
Speaker 1: of last season had a knee surgery, didn't have any
Speaker 1: sacks in the eight games he played for Tennessee. Had
Speaker 1: three sacks the year before, But he says he's healthy.
Speaker 1: Apparently the Browns thinks he thinks he's think he's healthy,
Speaker 1: and they're looking for big things from him alongside Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett on that defensive front. And so now Rob, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are thinking, Okay, we see O b J.
Speaker 1: We see Jarvis Landry, we see Nick Chobb, we see
Speaker 1: the defense Baker. If y'all don't get something special done,
Speaker 1: not necess theyrely getting into the super Bowl, because we
Speaker 1: obviously know Kansas City is there and some other good teams.
Speaker 1: But they're expecting a deep, competitive playoff run. And I
Speaker 1: think Rob, at least, what you're hearing out there is
Speaker 1: that some people are saying if they don't get there,
Speaker 1: it's Baker's fault. I think that's oversimplification of football. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, we give the quarterback either all the credit
Speaker 1: or all the blame. We've seen that in Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: career and other quarterbacks where they get all the all
Speaker 1: the credit when teams win, and then you want to
Speaker 1: point the finger when they lose as well. But in
Speaker 1: Baker's case, I think he should feel good going into
Speaker 1: this year just about how things went. It was his
Speaker 1: best season as a pro. The team won a lot
Speaker 1: of games, they beat the Steelers, in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: they're getting reinforcements. So I don't I don't know why
Speaker 1: he should shrink or feel like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be too much for me because we got
Speaker 1: we got a great were adding a great receiver who
Speaker 1: we didn't have. And maybe Clowney because the pressure is
Speaker 1: not on him and he's not the main guy, right, Chris,
Speaker 1: Uh that that Garrett right, Garrett will will have the
Speaker 1: right and Clowney could maybe excel and finally stay healthy
Speaker 1: and play again, you know, and play and be have
Speaker 1: an impact. Could have Yeah, so he could. So if
Speaker 1: I'm Baker, I would feel like we juvenated and feel
Speaker 1: like I can take another step, you know, uh, and
Speaker 1: not feel like all the pressure. If you think that
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback in the NFL you're not feeling pressure,
Speaker 1: then you must play on a dog team with no chance,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because all quarterbacks competing for
Speaker 1: the playoffs just pressure to win. So I just think
Speaker 1: Baker will be in that group, not like an also
Speaker 1: ran anymore. He's in a group and on a team
Speaker 1: that has a chance to make the playoffs every year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you there for sure. I mean, if
Speaker 1: I'm Baker Mayfield. I'm I'm hyped man, I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, right, If I'm Baker Mayfield, I'm
Speaker 1: going into this season thinking super Bowl. I really and honestly,
Speaker 1: I think any quarterback worth is salt. I mean, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's probably thinking the same thing Lamar Jackson as well.
Speaker 1: But I do think there's pressure on him. Rob Well,
Speaker 1: Number one, he hadn't signed his extension and it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he's going to before next season, So there's that. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's got to have another great year to get that
Speaker 1: huge money that we all want, Okay, And then because
Speaker 1: they're so good, kind of like you said, there is
Speaker 1: pressure on him to help this team, which on paper
Speaker 1: looks like it should be one of the top teams
Speaker 1: in the AFC, to be just that. And then, of
Speaker 1: course Obj's back, and he was better last year. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, Baker was better without Obj than he was
Speaker 1: with him last year, So that can't that in back,
Speaker 1: and this shouldn't. Obj is a great receiver, but it'll
Speaker 1: be interested. Baker's gonna be one of the guys that
Speaker 1: we're all watching and looking to see what he does next. Year.
Speaker 1: All right, it is the I couple. Chris and Rob
Speaker 1: filling in for Dan Patrick on The Dan Patrick Show.
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