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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This He's Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.

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Speaker 2: What is up? Everyone? Welcome to Cowboys Storyline February the first,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, and I'm joined by the man Darren Woodson.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Nick?

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 3: It is it?

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Speaker 2: What? Wednesday was?

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Speaker 3: Actually Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Thursdays and any day you want to come come over.

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Speaker 5: You get hitting the head for thirteen straight years, dude,

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Speaker 5: things happen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know what my excuse is.

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Speaker 2: It just happened. Anyways, I don't know I've been hitting

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Speaker 2: the head.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Anyways, Uh, you guys, a lot of stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about that. We'll talk about how the

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Speaker 2: season ended. A lot of people are trying to move on,

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Speaker 2: but with you here, Darren, I do.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to move on as well, man, But hey,

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Speaker 3: let's bring it back.

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to get you the thoughts on that

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Speaker 2: and also how you kind of can get bounced back

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Speaker 2: from that? All right? Aight? Eight A eight five five

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Speaker 2: two two ninety seven. Already have a couple of callers

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Speaker 2: on the line. We got Darren for about twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: or so here, so we'll we'll get off. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to the phone calls here in a second, but first

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Speaker 2: I do want to just talk to you. We got

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Speaker 2: some breaking news going on here, and Quinn, defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: has taken a job with the Washington Commanders. What are

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on that one?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, you know you're gonna lose Dan at

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Speaker 5: some point you knew that was gonna happen. He probably

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Speaker 5: probably should have lost him last year. And look, I

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Speaker 5: think there's a lot of those who are still burning

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Speaker 5: hot from the last game of the season. They're saying, well,

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Speaker 5: he didn't do you know, the defense didn't play up

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Speaker 5: to par. How could he get a new job or

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Speaker 5: blah blah blah. Look the guy is. His track record

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Speaker 5: over the last couple of years has been remarkable, and

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Speaker 5: I thought it was one of the best stage last

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Speaker 5: year as far as keeping people, even players within the organization.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was one of the best keepers last

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Speaker 5: year and finding a way to keep Dan Quinn on staff.

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Speaker 5: I'm happy for him. I think he's long overdue for

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Speaker 5: a head coaching job. I don't like the fact that

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Speaker 5: he's in the division. But at the same time, look

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Speaker 5: his track record of what he's been able to accomplish,

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Speaker 5: whether it be in Seattle with the you know what

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Speaker 5: they call the Legion of Doom, and then moving on

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Speaker 5: to Atlanta and going to the Super Bowl with that team,

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Speaker 5: and then coming to Dallas and changing things around. Look,

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Speaker 5: I just got a ton of respect for dan Quinn,

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Speaker 5: even though you know what they went through the season.

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Speaker 5: You know, even with going through the season, they had

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Speaker 5: a great season. He put guys in the right.

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Speaker 3: Position to win games. Just so happened. It didn't happen

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Speaker 3: for him and in the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure I'll get a chance later on in

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Speaker 2: the show to I'll be asked about it. I'll throw

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Speaker 2: my two cents in later in the show. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I agree with with everything that you said.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's just get to the phone line. Let's

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Speaker 2: try to get as many callers that can talk to

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Speaker 2: you as possible here. So let's go to Brian in

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Speaker 7: First up, Good afternoon, gentlemen. Well I'm a little sick today,

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Speaker 7: which is why I'm home from work. But I am

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Speaker 7: really glad because I've never been able to call in

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Speaker 7: and on a day when Woody's there nice, So it

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Speaker 7: is a pleasure to talk to you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you too, br Well, Brian always asks me like

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Speaker 2: a former player and give a story or whatever. So

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping maybe you'll ask Darren, a player that you

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Speaker 2: he'll have some great stories on any of these guys.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely, So I got two questions, and then of

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Speaker 7: course I'll hang up and listen so other people can participate.

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Speaker 7: My first question is, if you're one of the guys

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Speaker 7: that looks into this stuff and follows this stuff, do

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Speaker 7: you have an opinion on any of the safeties coming

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Speaker 7: out this year? And my other question is something close

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Speaker 7: to what Nick just said, but maybe a favorite mentor

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Speaker 7: as you were coming up through the ranks. I'll hang

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Speaker 5: To answer your first quest, I should I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: I remember my ESPN days of having to watch you know,

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Speaker 5: the entire football season and then watch you know, the

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Speaker 5: college draft and and get prep for who's coming out.

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Speaker 5: I'm not that's not my deal.

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Speaker 3: Agyet'm clueless. I'm clueless.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's another show that just they did They

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Speaker 2: just left out the draft show call mel Kiper, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the one the all over it. I'm not there yet either,

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Speaker 2: And I don't even know if that would be your

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Speaker 2: top priority thinking about because that they signed Malik Cooker

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Speaker 3: They never do anyway, right, So that's not happening.

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Speaker 5: But there's some free agent pickups maybe that that that

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Speaker 5: are out there that they may want to take a

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Speaker 5: look at. As for your second question, as far as mentors, look,

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Speaker 5: I had so many guys that that meantwored me through

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Speaker 5: the process. That Tony Tolbert was a guy, uh when

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Speaker 5: being a defensive end, really took me under arm and

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Speaker 5: you know, taught me how to be a professional. Jim

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Speaker 5: Jeffcote another one that took me under his wing. James Washington,

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Speaker 5: Thomas Everett, Ray Horton. I mean, these guys came in

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Speaker 5: pretty good doing man, but the zone concepts were you know,

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Speaker 5: I was oblivious to understanding what was going on there,

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Speaker 3: So, uh, those were those are you know? And there

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Speaker 5: I mean, Roger starbacht is you know, as much as

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Speaker 5: Roger was instrumental in pouring. I mean, there's the reason

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Speaker 5: and really poured into me and told me, hey, this

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Speaker 3: You ain't gonna be here, Fred, and what you're playing.

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Speaker 5: So I just had so many people that that that

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Speaker 2: I remember you telling me a story and not to

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Speaker 2: get you know, too personal with it, but there was

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, yeah, involved with something I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I went through I went through you know, it

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Speaker 5: wasn't that damaging, but I went through my financial advisor

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Speaker 5: had came up in the pay in the newspaper that

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Speaker 5: had taken the bank and he had actually taken the

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Speaker 5: found out that he had actually taken advantage of me

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Speaker 5: in a small way, but at the same time it

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Speaker 5: I got the right financial group for you.

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Speaker 3: Same group i'm with today.

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Speaker 5: Really, this isn't ninety three, ninety ninety three my first

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Speaker 5: year or two in the league, and I'm still with

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Speaker 5: the same group. But Troy is another one that just

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Speaker 5: I mean, there's so many guys that were older than me,

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Speaker 5: and I think that's what was so special about those

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Speaker 5: same time, Man, it was a family affair. It was

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Speaker 5: a network of guys that really wanted to take care

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Speaker 2: That's pretty awesome. All right, let's go to Justin in California.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Nick, how you doing, Brothers, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 8: I'm good. I'm good. I think the last time I

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Speaker 8: called was just before the Green Day game.

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Speaker 2: Hello, hey, justin real quick? Are you do you know

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Speaker 2: you're you're on with Darren Wildson? Yes, I am just man.

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Speaker 8: You know what, Darren, I got to thank you because

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Speaker 8: when I was when I was younger, so you know,

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Speaker 8: Smith so bad. I wanted to be a running back.

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Speaker 8: I want to be a running back and didn't we

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Speaker 8: all happening? Yeah, exactly, And my coach was like, no,

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Speaker 8: you know, I think, you know, let's put you at

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Speaker 8: you know, I didn't really want to be and you know,

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Speaker 8: watching watching you play it finally made it cool for

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Speaker 8: One of my main goals is to get as many

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Speaker 8: there was someone always always over me through Pop Warner

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Speaker 8: and through high school. His name is Eric Little, and

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Speaker 8: we'll see why you got the starting position over me.

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Speaker 8: But but but yeah, thank you because at a young age,

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Speaker 8: I wanted to be, you know, the superstar. And yeah,

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Speaker 8: you made it cool for you made it okay for

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Speaker 8: me to try to get better at safety. So I

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Speaker 8: appreciate that. Yeah, I hope, I hope you. I hope

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that long overdue thank you.

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Speaker 8: But uh yeah, last time I called it was the

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Speaker 8: Green Bay game and I think I said, you know,

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Speaker 8: I still think that. I like the decision they made,

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Speaker 8: dan Quinn decided to take another job. I just think

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Speaker 8: I'm looking back and I'm thinking, when was the last

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Speaker 8: time we had a good run defense? It was even

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Speaker 8: before dan Quinn. We've had this issue, and I'm glad

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Speaker 8: we're not sticking with it. I'm glad we're going to

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Speaker 8: go in a different direction. As good as he was,

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Speaker 8: we need to we need to fix this run defense. Somehow.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it is just coaching or if

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Speaker 8: it's this front line and we need guys that just

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Speaker 8: want to get it. So I just want to call

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Speaker 8: in about that because I think a lot of people

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Speaker 8: to this defense. I think it's actually a good thing.

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Speaker 4: So all right.

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Speaker 2: Well called, I kind of agree. Last year, I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: have thought this, but this year they need to do

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Speaker 3: They don't. That's not their makeup. So it's easy to say, yeah, we're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna change this, and we're gonna do that, and we're

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Speaker 5: I just don't think that's their mentality and hasn't been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely agree with that, and I think they

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Speaker 3: And also you know, just to go along with that.

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Speaker 5: That's all I used to remember. And it was this

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Speaker 3: The Russell? Absolutely, Russell Maryland was the number one pick.

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Speaker 5: Like you talk about a fundamental change, you want to

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Speaker 2: You know, the next defensive tackle they took in the

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Speaker 2: You know, technically defensive end? Oh he was okay, he

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Speaker 2: let's go back to the phone line. William in West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Nick, my man? How's it going, good man?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Hanging man?

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Speaker 10: They're sure really from that loss. But like I said,

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Speaker 10: First of all, could you just describe how underrated a

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Speaker 10: He was a phenomenal player. I really thought he was

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Speaker 11: And secondly, could you give us some stories about how

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Speaker 5: Look, Thomas Everett was and I mentioned Thomas earlier on

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Speaker 3: I mean he came in like a bowling ball to

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Speaker 5: Uh, he would just show up and it made big plays,

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Speaker 5: But tremendous athlete, more athletic than you you could ever

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Speaker 3: Dude. He was just a damn good football player.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I had a buddy of mine, Marks Lebert

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Speaker 3: And he was one of those guys. Roy Roy was Roy,

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Speaker 3: You did, it's my job. That was my job.

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Speaker 3: No brock Marion. Look, let me tell you what. I'll

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Speaker 5: Marion was you know, I was tasked to always cover

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Speaker 5: So if Jerry Rice motioned over, I just let him

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Speaker 5: Roy was probably the biggest hitter I've ever been around.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I've ever seen anyone hit and

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Speaker 3: But when I went down, they tasked him to do

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Speaker 5: He would give you anything. Yeah, he give you his

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Speaker 3: Were in need.

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Speaker 5: Man, the biggest, biggest heart to the point likes to

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Speaker 2: He'd be giving away a lot of money played in

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Man?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 6: I believe I'm on the phone with darn Woods.

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Speaker 3: Jeff.

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Speaker 6: The greatest, greatest safety is ever where the star?

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Speaker 6: I can't believe, Chris, I can't believe I got through

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Speaker 6: You got it? How you doing, man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great about youself?

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Speaker 6: Oh, I'm doing good. I'm doing real good now.

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Speaker 2: I just can't stop getting energy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I me and Nick Man we've been we've

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Speaker 6: Let me, let me ask you something, because sometimes I

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Speaker 5: You don't lose a game on Sundays. I just don't

442
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Speaker 5: believe that. I don't believe that you show up and

443
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,160
Speaker 5: it's too bright. It's too bright for you. These guys

444
00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 5: have been playing all their lives like this is nothing

445
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 5: new to to Michael Parsons and the CD Lambs. They've

446
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Speaker 5: been playing at the highest of highest levels all their life.

447
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Speaker 3: And the other team, you know, it's the same way.

448
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 5: The other team isn't playing at this level as well,

449
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Speaker 5: so it's not the nerves is not I don't believe

450
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Speaker 5: in the fact, yeah, you can be able to nervous

451
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Speaker 5: that you get over it after the first hit and

452
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Speaker 5: you move on.

453
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Speaker 3: Here's the deal. You are who you are.

454
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Speaker 5: We've heard this so many times from coaches like Bill Parcells. Right, So,

455
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Speaker 5: when you're in training camp and you when you're playing

456
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Speaker 5: a certain way, and you're going through the preseason and

457
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Speaker 5: you're and you you know, you're deal.

458
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Speaker 3: Doing your thing.

459
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Speaker 5: And then you get into the regular season and it's

460
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Speaker 5: week six, the week ten and you're doing the exact

461
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Speaker 5: same thing. You're leading the league in penalties. That is

462
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Speaker 5: not going to change all of a sudden. It's not

463
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Speaker 5: like you pull you turn on the light switch and go,

464
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Speaker 5: oh okay, now we're different.

465
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Speaker 4: Now.

466
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Speaker 3: No, that's who you are. That is who you are.

467
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Speaker 5: And when you played all season long and you haven't

468
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 5: stopped a run against the Buffalo bit or the Arizona

469
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 5: Cardinals first of all, the Buffalo Bills us the Niners.

470
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Speaker 5: When you when you haven't stopped the run, that's who

471
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Speaker 5: you are. And it's only a matter of time until

472
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Speaker 5: you get into the playoffs. You played another good team

473
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Speaker 5: like the Green Bay Packers and Jones runs the ball

474
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Speaker 5: down your throat.

475
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Speaker 3: That's it is what it is. So I just hate the.

476
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Speaker 5: You know, hear this whole Well, you can change at

477
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Speaker 5: any time, and you can do this. You can turn

478
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Speaker 5: you can't turn that light switch off, and it starts.

479
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Speaker 2: To ry on.

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Speaker 6: I did like yesterday, I finally when I finally heard

481
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Speaker 6: that Micah spoke yesterday, and I was glad to hear that.

482
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Speaker 6: Finally he come out and you say, look, that was

483
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Speaker 6: embarrassing and unacceptable. And I've been waiting to hear a

484
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Speaker 6: player say that because it was, and so hopefully that

485
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 6: maybe they're getting to that mental part and maybe knowing

486
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Speaker 6: that they have to you know, they have to be

487
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Speaker 6: ready to play off the time.

488
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Speaker 5: So hey, Jeff, this starts down though, like that that

489
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Speaker 5: all starts like this off season. Mike had just said that,

490
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Speaker 5: it starts now like you really to want to really

491
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 5: burn hot, like really burn hot and let it really

492
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Speaker 5: you know, burn in your heart is when you start.

493
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Speaker 3: To do things about it.

494
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Speaker 5: Right, So yeah, you can say that, But at the

495
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Speaker 5: same time, now it's time for Micah and the rest

496
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Speaker 5: of the guys who are the leaders of this team

497
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Speaker 5: to step up and say, Okay, this off season, we're

498
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Speaker 5: gonna eliminate some of the mistakes that we made. We're

499
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Speaker 5: gonna actually turn the film on from last year. And

500
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Speaker 5: Mike Zimmer did this to us in ninety four. I

501
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 5: think it was he did it to me personally. He

502
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 5: took a note of all the bad plays I had,

503
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 5: every bad play that I had, and then put it

504
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Speaker 5: on film and I had to watch it.

505
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Speaker 3: And it sucked, dude. I mean, I didn't sleep for

506
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 3: five straight days.

507
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Speaker 6: But it made you a better pleasure.

508
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 5: But it made me a better football player because I

509
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: was able to see the warts and I did the

510
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 5: entire off season.

511
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Speaker 3: All I did was work on those warts.

512
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Speaker 2: And you know, that's what Dak and that's what McCarthy

513
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: did with Dak. You know this year they went through

514
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: every interception from the year before. Yeah, you know, and yes,

515
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: I understand what happened in the Packer game, but we

516
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: all know Dak had a better season last year. He

517
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: did have a bounce back yere and all that. Well,

518
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Speaker 2: thanks thanks for the call, Jeff. Appreciate that we got

519
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Speaker 2: to move it one more caller here before we got

520
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Speaker 2: to let Darren go ray in Michigan. What's up, Bright?

521
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Speaker 13: How you doing Hey, great first time caller. All right,

522
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Speaker 13: I'm doing good and I love it when you bring Hey.

523
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Speaker 3: Ray. Nice to meet you, Ray.

524
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Speaker 13: A pleasure to meet you, and I want to thank

525
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 13: you for your legacy. I'm fifty two years old, so

526
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 13: I you know, I experienced it in my twenties, and uh,

527
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Speaker 13: you know, I just want to thank you. I know

528
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Speaker 13: in a week a week come today, you will be

529
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Speaker 13: the newest number of the twenty four class. So I'm

530
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Speaker 13: gonna I'm gonna congratulate you ahead of time because I

531
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Speaker 13: know I feel you're a lock. You should you should

532
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 13: have been in years ago. And I will see you

533
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 13: in Canton.

534
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Speaker 14: Thank you.

535
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 13: I go to all the enshrinements.

536
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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

537
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 13: Yes, I can't wait. I'm I'm got my hands together

538
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 13: for you. So I want to thank you. And also

539
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 13: I you know, through this twenty eight year drought, the

540
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Speaker 13: source of my contentment is my Game War Jersey collection,

541
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Speaker 13: and I collected the nineties and I'm lucky enough to.

542
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Speaker 14: Have one of yours.

543
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Speaker 13: And it's in a way nineteen ninety four. You wore

544
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Speaker 13: it against Arizona and Washington. But that's so I will

545
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Speaker 13: have that on my back and I never wear jerseys,

546
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 13: but I will definitely have my back in Canton.

547
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Speaker 2: At Washington ninety four.

548
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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's.

549
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Speaker 4: Ninety four it was.

550
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Speaker 13: It was the Apex jersey you know before Yeah, double

551
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 13: Star that year, but this was the Blue Away. So anyways,

552
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 13: thank you for everything, and it's gonna be great to

553
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 13: see you in the Hall of Fame. I guess my

554
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 13: question is you know, I didn't. I just wanted to

555
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 13: thank you, really, But my question is, what what was

556
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 13: it like playing like on Special Teams your rookie year

557
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 13: before you starting lineup the following year? What was it

558
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 13: like playing like with Kenny Gant and Bill Bates? You know,

559
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 13: you know, what did you learn from those guys on

560
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Speaker 13: Special Yeah?

561
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Speaker 3: Dude, I mean Bill Bates. I remember grew up growing.

562
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Speaker 5: Up and watching Bill Bates on TV and being a

563
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Speaker 5: Special Teams ace.

564
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Speaker 2: Uh.

565
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Speaker 5: And then I get here and I get to meet Bill,

566
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Speaker 5: but I also got to meet the shark Kenny and

567
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Speaker 5: Gant as great as the Special Teams player as he was,

568
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Speaker 5: I mean, he was.

569
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Speaker 3: Phenomenal and he run through the wedge.

570
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Speaker 5: He made, you know, huge play on Special Teams and

571
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 5: in the nickel at the same time. But gamp. Kenny

572
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: Gant was the guy that kept everything loose. I can

573
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 5: tell you before games we were in the locker room

574
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 5: the biggest games, NFC Championship games, and he's cutting up

575
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 5: making us laugh.

576
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: Man. He just kept us loose all the time.

577
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: And then when he got out in the field, man,

578
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 5: he'd be smiling running down on kickoff like that's just

579
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 5: joy for the game and his energy for the game.

580
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Speaker 3: And he made it fun for me. I mean, he

581
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Speaker 3: really did. He kept it loose.

582
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Speaker 5: I mean to answer that question. Look, I don't know

583
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 5: if I ever came off out of special teams. I

584
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 5: played special teams my entire Yeah, my tire kickoff, kickoff

585
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 5: return my first year, I played all four of my

586
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 5: first year, got off the kickoff return team my second year.

587
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 5: But I played the punt, punt return and what else

588
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 5: kickoff team for thirteen years. And a lot of people

589
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 5: don't realize that I'm second all time in leading.

590
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: Tackles for in special teams. Wow. And it's a lot

591
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 3: of special teams bro.

592
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not gonna change because no one's getting

593
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: special teams tackles.

594
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 5: And trust me, I think I would have played a

595
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 5: couple more years if I wasn't playing, all those special

596
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 5: teams had some more life in it.

597
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: I know, I know. We gotta let you go. A

598
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: couple of the callers have talked about the Hall of Fame.

599
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 2: Tell us what happens this week? You're going out to Vegas?

600
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go out to Vegas.

601
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: Next week, next Tuesday, and we'll find out by Wednesday,

602
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: Thursday of next week, somewhere in there. And and if

603
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 5: it happens, man, I'll be a happy man.

604
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: But if it doesn't, man, I can't. You know. Look,

605
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 3: we'll circle them. We'll circle it one more time, right,

606
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 3: we'll come back around.

607
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: And I'm going to be there on Thursday. I'm going

608
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: to Vegas on Thursday, and it's going to be a

609
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: good time. And if that happens, I'm gonna find you.

610
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 2: And I can't wait for that, just to see what

611
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Speaker 2: what that's going to be, like you so deserving. But

612
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: like you said, you know it's not this year. Then

613
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Speaker 2: wherever the super Bowl is next year, that's where I'll.

614
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Speaker 3: The way.

615
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, So we're gonna take a break here

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Speaker 2: real quick. I know there's some people on the line,

617
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Speaker 2: sorry that you didn't get a chance to talk to

618
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Speaker 2: Darren this time, but really appreciate you coming by. Good

619
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Speaker 2: luck to you next week. And Darren, we'll see you

620
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Speaker 2: next time you come around.

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Speaker 3: All right, sounds good, bro.

622
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll go right back here on Cowboys story.

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Speaker 12: My friend supported me during a tough time.

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Speaker 1: To Cowboys storyline.

671
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cowboys storyline. It's been a

672
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Speaker 2: while since we've taken a break on here. Had to

673
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: had let Darren go. Darren Woodson was here. If you

674
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Speaker 2: just just joined us, feel bad for the callers that

675
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: tried to get through and couldn't. He was running to

676
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Speaker 2: a meeting. So we love having Darren on. Some great insight,

677
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: great stories that he told as well. We'll see if

678
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Speaker 2: we can call him Hall of Fame or Darren what's

679
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Speaker 2: in after next week? So a week from today actually

680
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: will be the announcement on the NFL Honors. Maybe Darren

681
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: might find out a little bit earlier in the day.

682
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: He's going to be there. I'll be there, so that

683
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Speaker 2: that means we will not have a show next Thursday,

684
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: just going to have one next week on a Cowboys

685
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: storyline on Tuesday at one o'clock. We will not have

686
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Speaker 2: two next week. All right, let's get back to the

687
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Speaker 2: phone lines, Josh and Chicago is next.

688
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Speaker 4: Hey, Nick, long time no talk. How are you doing?

689
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: All right? First first time caller.

690
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 4: No, I've called it. I think this is my third

691
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Speaker 4: or fourth.

692
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Speaker 2: Let's do it anyways, for Ray in Michigan, because we

693
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Speaker 2: we go. It's for you and for Ray.

694
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Speaker 3: So awesome.

695
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how you doing? Josh?

696
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 20: Not too bad?

697
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Speaker 4: How are you doing? I'm great, A little bum daddy

698
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: to talk to Woody, but I help gets into the hall.

699
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: He's you know, I'm praying for him. He's an awesome

700
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: guy on and off the field.

701
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Speaker 14: So really, I hope.

702
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Speaker 4: He gets there.

703
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

704
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I've been trying to call for a couple

705
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: of weeks, even with the time change. I hope that

706
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 4: you're still getting a lot of calls. I'm here to

707
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 4: the wheels fall off man.

708
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: All right, all right, Yeah, we're doing good. We're doing

709
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: pretty good with the with the time change and a

710
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: lot of the same same callers. We got a few

711
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: first timers, but you know, they they they follow us

712
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: so which is great.

713
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Speaker 21: Yeah.

714
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Speaker 4: The one thing that I will say is, you know,

715
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Speaker 4: I'm a bit bummed to see dan Quinn Gota somewhere

716
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: in the division. But I do think the change will

717
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Speaker 4: be good. I really hope that this team can can

718
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: just improve on its penalties next season. I think that

719
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Speaker 4: that's you know, we talked about the run defense a lot,

720
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Speaker 4: but I think that there's been penalties that put them

721
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Speaker 4: behind the change, and that's something that starts with the

722
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: head coach in my eyes, and Mike's gotta do better at.

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean the players

724
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: have to you know, it's it's on the players too,

725
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: but but yeah, I mean it all funnels up to

726
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: the head coach as well, and uh and and and

727
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 2: the GM and owner. I mean that's because the players

728
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: that you put out there, you know, some some of

729
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: the guys are repeat offenders here, like so you know,

730
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Speaker 2: at some point, are they worth it? You have to

731
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Speaker 2: figure that out. Are they worth it? Are they good

732
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: enough when they're actually making plays to offset all of

733
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: the penalties, and if they're not, move on. Kelvin Joseph

734
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Speaker 2: was another guy like that. I mean, just playing on

735
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: special teams, causing getting a lot of penalties. They had

736
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Speaker 2: to get rid of them, you know, and so and

737
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Speaker 2: there may be others on the team. I like that

738
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Speaker 2: as well.

739
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like having Sam Williams around. But I mean

740
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Speaker 4: the impact, right is what you're saying, and I mean

741
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: his impact is a way for the penalties are worth better.

742
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Speaker 2: Yeah, after the call, I'll have a point about Sam

743
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Speaker 2: Williams as well. Do you have anything else, Josh?

744
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: Yes, I actually was gonna ask Woody, but something gets

745
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask him if he has any Nate

746
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Speaker 4: news stories. I don't know if you might have any.

747
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Uh well, but well my stories aren't the same as Nate. Yeah,

748
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: I've got plenty of Nate stories. But I should wait

749
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Speaker 2: till he comes back. I'll get him on here again. Yeah, Nate.

750
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Speaker 2: It was like I had some Nate stories before I

751
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: even started working here.

752
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 22: You know.

753
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Speaker 2: He uh uh, he's still He pushed me on the

754
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: sidelines my very first year. I wasn't worth the Cowboys

755
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: yet my very first year, but I was. I was

756
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 2: in the media and I was probably weighing like one

757
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pounds seriously, and Nate, just Nate was

758
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: a pulling guard on a goal line play and just

759
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: ran and I was nowhere near him. He was about

760
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 2: you know, two yards this way, but he went right

761
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: next to me and just decided to just shove me

762
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: for no reason. I think he just said, if I'm

763
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 2: gonna run thirty forty yards, I don't hit someone. And

764
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Speaker 2: he just you know, and him just shoving me. I

765
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: mean almost fell down, you know. I I'll never forget that.

766
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Speaker 2: I don't know why. I don't know why Nate had

767
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: to do that. But yeah, so anyways, uh, we've we've definitely,

768
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Speaker 2: uh had some great stories backward, but not not as

769
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Speaker 2: like what you know would he had of course, different

770
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: different stories there with him. So anyways, thanks, thanks, yeah,

771
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: thanks for the call. Josh, appreciate that. All right, let's go.

772
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say something about Sam Williams where you know,

773
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: a lot of people kind of have that opinion like, hey,

774
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: if he's just gonna play special teams and he's gonna

775
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: have penalties, is it worth it? And and and that's fair.

776
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: The part that that could be something to watch now

777
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: is look at the free agents that are out there now.

778
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: On your unrestricted free agents, You've got Doran Armstrong, You've

779
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: got Dante Fler. Faller's one guy that did play for

780
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 2: him for dan Quinn in Atlanta and in Dallas. Dorrin

781
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Armstrong's best, best career, best years of his career have

782
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: been here with dan Quinn. So could be situations where

783
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: these guys maybe maybe they leave, maybe the Cowboys can't

784
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: re sign them both or any of them. And that's

785
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: where you've got a third year player in Sam Williams

786
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: that you know, maybe it's time for him to to

787
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: you know, the light bulb to come on and to

788
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: turn the corner and play a lot more. So, you know,

789
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: and that's that's the cycle of how things are supposed

790
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: to go. You draft the guy in the second round.

791
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: By his third year, you need to be starting. And

792
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: so I think that, you know, they may give him

793
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: that opportunity to do that, but it's it's hold your

794
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: breath with him because you know, like we've seen, there

795
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: have been certainly been some some penalties issues with him.

796
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to a Sebastian and Savannah Sebastian,

797
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: you're next.

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Speaker 14: Good afternoon, and I hope you guys having a brilliant

799
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 14: year so far. We're up to February now, so listen,

800
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 14: I'm gonna sum this whole season up in the most

801
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 14: beautiful way possible. Remember when you were a kid and

802
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 14: your parents were telling you they're going to take you

803
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 14: across the country to like an amusement park and you're

804
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 14: all excited and that's training camp, and you're like looking

805
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 14: at all the rides on the schedule and you're like,

806
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 14: oh man, this is gonna be great, and you're like,

807
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 14: I'm gonna say the best ride for last. Right, you

808
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 14: get to the amusement park. You're having a good Some

809
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 14: of the rides are good, some of the rides are bad,

810
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 14: some of the rids are terrible. But then you get

811
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 14: to that big ride and you're like, yes, I've been

812
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 14: waiting all day long. I've been in line for over

813
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 14: an hour. And you get on that ride and the

814
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 14: people coming off the ride before you're crying and throwing up,

815
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 14: and you're like, ah, they're socked. That'll be great. Then

816
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 14: you get on there and it's a great ride, and

817
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 14: it starts and you get to the first loop and

818
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 14: someone skills their coffee on machine and you get stuck

819
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 14: in that loop for two and a half hours and

820
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 14: you're miserable, and people are crying and throwing up and

821
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 14: they're upset, and your head is banging because you're upside down.

822
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 14: And then they finally fixed the machine right and you

823
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 14: start to finish the rest of the ride, but at

824
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 14: that point you're so tired and just exasperated. You just

825
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 14: want to go home. And that was the end of

826
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 14: the season. And it's unfortunate and it sucks because it

827
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 14: sounds like we're losing dan Quinn and stuff like that.

828
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 14: And I really had a question for what mister Woodson

829
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 14: as well. But that was basically the season. We had

830
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 14: all these great rides, Jimmy Johnson getting into the Ring

831
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 14: of Honor finally, and then you get to the final

832
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 14: ride that you've been waiting on the entire time, and

833
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 14: it stunned, and not for reasons that you could ever

834
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 14: even figure out ahead of time, you know. I look

835
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 14: at that last week seventeen game against seventeen, Yeah, week

836
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 14: seventeen game against Washington when he dove for the play

837
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 14: I'm talking about Gilmore, and I was like, you didn't

838
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 14: have to do that. I literally was like, why you

839
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 14: didn't have to do that? And you knew he was

840
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 14: hurt the way that he got he was sitting down

841
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 14: there and I was like, there was no reason for

842
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,479
Speaker 14: us to do that. We had the lead. You didn't

843
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 14: have to sell out for that play. That's something that

844
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 14: you do maybe in the playoffs. I think had he

845
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 14: been fully healthy, our defense may have looked a little better.

846
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 14: I don't know if we would have stopped him or

847
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 14: if it would have changed anything, but I think we

848
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 14: would have looked better and the play callin would have

849
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 14: been a little bit better. Injuries definitely robbed some of

850
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 14: the defense, So I don't put one hundred percent of

851
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 14: the bad defensive calls and playing on Dan Quinn. You

852
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 14: gotta go out there and execute. So going forward, if

853
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 14: Dan's not there, I don't know if that's one hundred

854
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 14: percent confirmed now that he's going to the commanders, but

855
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 14: if he's not there, is the experiments of having safeties

856
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 14: play linebackers and linebackers do whatever played defensive lineman over.

857
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 14: Are we gonna have safeties and we're gonna have linebackers

858
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 14: for this next generation? Is that something that you think

859
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 14: we need to look at going forward? Before I leave,

860
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 14: I loved all the shows. You guys did an amazing

861
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 14: job keeping our spirits hide this season. This has been

862
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 14: one of the coolest shows ever to call in and

863
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 14: talk to Rod Woodson and Nate Newton's on the show

864
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 14: and stuff like that, but to hear the fans rob

865
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 14: Vegas and everybody, all the young women and men who

866
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 14: called love you guys. Shout out to everybody. It's gonna

867
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 14: be all right, Yeah, We're gonna be fine.

868
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: Have a great day, all right, thanks Smash. I had

869
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: a hard time keeping up with the with you know,

870
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: I love analogies, I mean as much as the next one.

871
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: But man, I was I was struggling there. You know,

872
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: not that I'm not that I've been on a ton

873
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: of roller coasters myself, but I mean stuck in for

874
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: a couple hours, I mean that's sounds kind of traumatic, actually,

875
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I get the point though. I think, uh,

876
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: just just you know, all the build up and then

877
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: boom over off season. Now we're doing a draft show

878
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: just like that. I mean, we should be we should all.

879
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: We all thought we there was a chance to go

880
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: to Vegas for the Super Bowl, and it just didn't

881
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 2: didn't happen. Ask for the question about the linebackers safety,

882
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: you know, who knows, you know, what's gonna happen here

883
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: with the defensive coordinator, new new coordinator, new scheme, you'd hope.

884
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: And so as much as I like Dan Quinn and

885
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 2: I and in the last couple of years, I didn't

886
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't want to see him leave. You

887
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: know now that they have to make some changes. You

888
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: have to have some things that you want to be

889
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: excited about. And uh, I think whoever the coordinator is

890
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: there needs to be a little bit more of an

891
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: emphasis on the run. It has to be And and

892
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: I think you know, anytime you you you do mismatches,

893
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: it's a mismatch for a reason. It's a mismatch both ways.

894
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: In the NBA, if you played five guards, you're probably

895
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: gonna get the ball up the court and pass it

896
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: around and probably get some open shots. But if you miss,

897
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: you're not getting the rebound, you know, so so just

898
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: because of the mismatch on one end and out the other.

899
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: So if you play undersized linebackers, yeah, they can fly

900
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: around the ball maybe and then and and chase it

901
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: and and and you know, make some plays. But but

902
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: when it gets hat on a hat and their guys

903
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: are bigger than you, look what happens so I do

904
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,399
Speaker 2: think that whoever the coordinators needs to be a little

905
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 2: bit more emphasis on the run, and with that probably

906
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: means bigger linebackers. All right, let's go to uh Bill

907
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: in New Haven, Connecticut.

908
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 12: Hey, Nick, how you doing, Buddy?

909
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Good Bill?

910
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 12: How good Man? Thanks?

911
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 21: Hey.

912
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 12: I just want to touch real quickly on the things

913
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 12: Jerry said yesterday, because I think there's a misconception as fans.

914
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 12: We hear all in, right, and we think, oh wow,

915
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 12: they're gonna go out, they're gonna get Chris Jones, they're

916
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 12: gonna get this guy, this guy. But if you really

917
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 12: listening to what Jerry said his definition of all in,

918
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 12: and he mentioned these three players several times and it

919
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 12: was Lamb's, Parsons and Prescott, I think his definition of

920
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 12: all in is an all in financial commitment to keeping

921
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 12: those players that they drafted and they built the roster up.

922
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 12: So I just think that the fans need to prepare

923
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 12: himself for when they hear all in. It's easy right

924
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 12: now to say, oh, yeah, things are gonna be different

925
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 12: this year. We're gonna go out and we're gonna be

926
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 12: players before Week three in free agency. But I just

927
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 12: don't think that's what he means by all in, And

928
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 12: I think there's a huge disconnect by between what the

929
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 12: franchise thinks all in is and what we as fans

930
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 12: think all in and you and I'm starting I was

931
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 12: gonna say, you've hit on it this. They think they're close.

932
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 12: Whether we agree with it, whether you agree with it,

933
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 12: it doesn't matter. They do think they're close, and that's

934
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 12: what makes it frustrating by them kind of saying two

935
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 12: things at the same time. Well, we're close, but we're

936
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 12: not going all in. But I just think what it

937
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 12: comes down to is there's a huge disconnect between they're

938
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 12: all in, which is a financial commitment of being all in,

939
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 12: and what we as fans want to see as being.

940
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: All Let's break it down because I mean the term

941
00:42:53,880 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: all in. We know what it's referencing, right, you play poker? Yeah,

942
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: what does all in mean? It means you're pushing all

943
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: of your chips in for this hand, all of them

944
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: are in. Everything I've got is going to the middle.

945
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know this. Jerry might be

946
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: looking at it from a salary cap standpoint, going for

947
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: me to pay Dak, for me to pay Micah, and

948
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: for me to pay CD. That might be all my chips, right,

949
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: I mean that's you know he's thinking from from that name.

950
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: Will it be all No, probably not, but it's gonna

951
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 2: be a lot. And so I think that's that might

952
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: be what he's thinking. And I'm not I'm not saying,

953
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's right or wrong or whatever. And you

954
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: you're exactly right because you're all in. Is getting those

955
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: those free agents that you're talking about, all all the

956
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: top ones at each position that you need and just

957
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 2: trading next year's you know, next year's number one for

958
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: somebody like that. That to me is all in. I'm

959
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: gonna trade next year's one for that will help me

960
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: right now?

961
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 12: See, I see, and I think quickly, I know you

962
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 12: got to go. I think they think all in. And listen,

963
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 12: they made the trade for Gilmour, they made the trade

964
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 12: for Cooks. Good trades, but there were trades at their

965
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 12: price for players that were Pro bowlers. We speak about

966
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 12: game changers. We're talking about going and getting players that

967
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 12: actually are still all pros or Pro Bowlers. And and

968
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 12: that's the difference. And uh, quickly, with the thing with

969
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 12: this happening today with Quinn, it's hard to preach continuity,

970
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 12: which I was okay with bringing McCarthy back when the

971
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 12: entire half of the coaching staff of the building. Not

972
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 12: the entire I'm being hyperbolic, but a lot of coaches

973
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 12: are leaving, so there's not a lot of continuity coming back.

974
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 12: Why you're right, I don't but I just think based

975
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 12: on things that I've read, quotes from Al Harris from

976
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 12: the past and the relationship with Jill Witt and Quinn,

977
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 12: that there's a high potential for them to Okay, so

978
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 12: if you're going to say we want to build on

979
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 12: what we have, which is fine more than fair. You've

980
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 12: been twelve and five for three straight years. You should

981
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 12: also have the fourth sight to also realize, and I'm

982
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 12: sure they do, that you might lose half of your

983
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 12: staff as well. So it kind of takes the legs

984
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 12: out on the continuity argument.

985
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for the call, Bill, appreciate good good stuff there.

986
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: Let me just throw out a couple of things about

987
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: the NFL rules. When in terms of that the coaches,

988
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: every coach on the staff other than receivers coach Robert

989
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Prince is under contract. So according to the NFL rules,

990
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: the only two positions that whether you have a contract

991
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: or not. The only two coaching positions that you have

992
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: to let them leave for is a head coach and

993
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: a defensive and a coordinator an offense, defense, or special

994
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: teams coordinator. So Dan Quinn is the new coach, will

995
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: be the new coach of Washington Commanders, and I believe

996
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: he could take one guy with him to be his coordinator,

997
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 2: but he can't take more than that because they're all

998
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: under contract. They can ask for permission, and if the

999
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 2: Cowboys wanted to make a change there and wanted to

1000
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: let a guy out of his contract or whatever, they

1001
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: can do that. So I'm not saying that it will

1002
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: only be one. But if the Cowboys are like, no, no,

1003
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: we're not letting you take everybody over there, they don't

1004
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: have to. It's not and it's nothing about a promotion

1005
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: from one spot to another. It's to be a coordinator.

1006
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 2: And I think the NFL has gotten they understand all

1007
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: the cute titles of passing game, run game coordinator, assistant,

1008
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: head coach, all this kind of stuff. Now you either

1009
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 2: you're a coordinator or that's it. So I don't think

1010
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: the Cowboys, if they don't want to, they can hold

1011
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 2: on to all but at least one of their defensive coaches.

1012
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: If that's what dan Quyn is trying to do. All right,

1013
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 2: Dylan and Northport, Florida, Hey.

1014
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 22: Mix, how's it going good?

1015
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: How are you doing good?

1016
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 22: You altered me for a loop today. I tried calling

1017
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 22: in that one fifty five I guess it'd be twelve

1018
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 22: fifty five year time, but it was already busy. I'm like,

1019
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 22: whine of these guys were eager today to get in here,

1020
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 22: and I turn it on and you're already halfway into

1021
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 22: this thing.

1022
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry we did. I did put it out on

1023
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Twitter or x whatever it's called, yeah, a couple of times,

1024
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, and announced it last in the last

1025
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: show as well. So yeah, I figured that would happened

1026
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: though to some you know, people have lives, you know,

1027
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: they don't just.

1028
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm not a great listener, so they working on

1029
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 22: listening skills. I actually I want to talk about the

1030
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 22: same thing that last I was talking about. It's funny

1031
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 22: you mentioned that about Jerry. I think I see it

1032
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 22: a bit differently because Jerry specifically said they're not building

1033
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 22: for the future. So and Jerry's not getting any younger.

1034
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 5: Let's be real, right.

1035
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 22: So I don't know how much he's got left in

1036
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 22: the tank. Hopefully a lot more, but you know, whatever,

1037
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 22: we'll see. But he specifically say he's not building for

1038
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 22: the future, So to me, that means there are some

1039
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 22: deals that will probably get done, like a DAK extension.

1040
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 22: But some of these deals are going to free up

1041
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 22: cap space that also allows you to then pursue these

1042
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 22: all pro guys or these high rice free agents. So

1043
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 22: I feel like, and I get why people don't trust chair.

1044
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 20: We haven't won.

1045
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 22: Anything since the dinosaurs roamed the earth, and you know,

1046
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 22: he talks lots of a lot of things, so I

1047
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 22: get why people aren't necessarily willing to jump in and

1048
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 22: trust him until they see it. But I just have

1049
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 22: this feeling that, especially if we see a DAK extension,

1050
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 22: I feel like they may go after a high end

1051
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 22: defensive tackle, maybe a linebacker, a running back for sure,

1052
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 22: and maybe a center or a certain combination of those things.

1053
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 22: So that's what I'm expecting, and I think the chips

1054
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 22: will fall once that DAK extension is completed. Yeah, I

1055
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 22: just want to get your thoughts on that.

1056
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: I agree. I mean, I think I think the DAK

1057
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: extension if that if that happens, that that's going to

1058
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: be that that's going to be like the first domino

1059
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: in a lot of things. And if it doesn't happen

1060
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: and they're just going to go off of one year

1061
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: for Dak, you know, at this fifty nine million price tag,

1062
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: then I think that that kind of would would symbol

1063
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 2: a lot of things of what of where they're thinking

1064
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: here moving forward and maybe this is just a one

1065
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: year thing, same with McCarthy and all that. So I

1066
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: think if you're going to be players and really give

1067
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 2: everybody a chance to do something, then they're probably going

1068
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: to have to extend that. That's why this is a

1069
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 2: tough situation because they they have thatk does have a

1070
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: lot more leverage here in this in this situation.

1071
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 22: So yeah, no doubt, no doubt. And then before I go,

1072
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 22: I guess, toss you a little bomb here and then

1073
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 22: pick off Jesse Holly what he said about Mike. I

1074
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 22: just want to get your thoughts on that and his

1075
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 22: comments on Michah maybe not being committed to play linebackers

1076
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 22: don't want to put in the work or whatever you said.

1077
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 22: I'm not sure if you heard that.

1078
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: Or not, but yeah, yeah, I think Yeah, Micha's mom

1079
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: heard that. Yeah, it happened. Okay, thanks for the call.

1080
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 2: I don't think my I don't think Jesse talked about

1081
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 2: it on yesterday show. Chris did you you listened? Did

1082
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: they talk about it yesterday, Chris Bean? Is he on

1083
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: the phone? No, they did not talk about Well, if

1084
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 2: Jesse's not talk about on his show, I'm not to

1085
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: talk about it as well. Let me let me just

1086
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 2: give him my thoughts on on Micah Parsons from from

1087
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: what I see, because I mean that's the thing, like

1088
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: it's we were in the locker room, uh some you know,

1089
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: I mean for a few minutes there, you know, three

1090
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: times a week or so, and we hear some stuff

1091
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: and and we you can kind of tell, I mean,

1092
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: I've seen it. You can tell that Micah. Micah's mindset

1093
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: is different than some other players. It really is, just

1094
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: just from what I've observed. I mean, he he wants

1095
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: to win. Uh, he wants to play well. He wants

1096
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: to play well. He I mean when he doesn't and

1097
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: there and the team wins, I've seen him kind of

1098
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: upset about the way he played or the way, you know,

1099
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: even though the team won, he holds himself to the

1100
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: highest standard there. If that's if that's considered selfish or whatever,

1101
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: then then maybe at times he is. But that's not

1102
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: always a bad word. That that word in life isn't

1103
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: always bad because sometimes if you're not looking out for yourself,

1104
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: who will. So again, it's it's hard to judge a

1105
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: player like that because he's unique. He's unique in his

1106
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: own way, and the players know it too. I've seen it.

1107
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: After a Giants game last season, they had seven sacks,

1108
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: he didn't have one, and then and they were kind

1109
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: of joking with him. The players were that, you know,

1110
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: Mike's will be mad. Now you know everyone got a

1111
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: sack he didn't, even though we all know that probably

1112
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: he was the reason for most of those sacks, just

1113
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 2: but just his presence alone. So I you know, I'm

1114
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: trying to you know, I read what what Micah's mom

1115
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: said about him, and and you know, it sounded just

1116
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 2: like what a mom would say about her son. I

1117
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: just think he's he's probably misunderstood a little bit. He

1118
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 2: definitely wants to win. He definitely wants to to be

1119
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: the reason why they win. And and and like I said,

1120
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: he holds himself to the highest of standards, and so

1121
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to try to give him the

1122
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt a little bit on that and

1123
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: and see see what happens. I mean, he's he's kind

1124
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: of said he's committed to to make it, you know,

1125
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: to turning this thing around and and and getting even

1126
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: better next year. And you know, I mean, it's it's

1127
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: an old It's not old school. That's the thing. Mike

1128
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: is not old school. He's not I mean, he's he's

1129
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 2: he plays, you know, Uh, I mean he's he's got

1130
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: his own podcast and he says a lot of things

1131
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: on there, and he says things that you know, some

1132
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 2: of the old school players that didn't say because it's

1133
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: just a different era. It is what it is. But

1134
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: I know this that that when it's third and nine,

1135
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 2: you know, if you can get to that point, there's

1136
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: nobody in the NFL I'd rather have Rush in the

1137
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: past or than Micah Parsons. And I think a lot

1138
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: of fans kind of feel the same way. Uh. You know,

1139
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: he's he's got like all of us. You know, he's

1140
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: got maturing to do that most young players do. And uh,

1141
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be doing that with the

1142
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys for a long time. So, uh, I don't

1143
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: know if that answered the question or not, But that's

1144
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: just my take on on what I see from from Micah.

1145
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 2: And you know, I think he'll, you know, if he,

1146
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: I think he'll be committed to to being even a

1147
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 2: better player uh this next year. And if that's that's

1148
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: the case, that's not good for for left tackles and

1149
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: right tackles trying to trying to block them. So all right,

1150
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go to James in New Jersey.

1151
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 21: What's up? You know, following on this TB he just

1152
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 21: said about Michael getting to the quarterback on third down

1153
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 21: if he really wants the kind of money who he

1154
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 21: thinks he wants to going to get as a defensive

1155
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 21: and he obviously doesn't want to play linebacker, it doesn't

1156
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 21: think so it doesn't seem like it. Yeah, he should

1157
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 21: maybe playing a more harder it guess to one as well.

1158
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 21: You know, the rest defensive end does both jobs. At

1159
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 21: this point, he's just a pass rusher. So if he

1160
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 21: used to come on down the field just on third down,

1161
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 21: then he's not going to get paid the twelve or

1162
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 21: fifteen million dollars a year to be a real good

1163
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 21: defensive end. Okay, Now that's the part of concerned. I

1164
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 21: don't understand where the leadership is going to come from

1165
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 21: when your best defensive player is seeing stuff like I'm

1166
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 21: okay with you, I at peace? That would you would

1167
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 21: never hear somebody like Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan's.

1168
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: To say what that would.

1169
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 21: Never happen he said, he said, I'm at peace. Okay,

1170
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 21: that's what he said, I'm at peace. No, you should

1171
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 21: never be at peace with Lucy if you're going to

1172
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 21: be a superstar and will be a leader of your team,

1173
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 21: because you're not giving a good lessons to the rest

1174
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 21: of your team. You know, because I because if it

1175
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 21: doesn't come from here from him, I have no idea

1176
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 21: what the leader is going to come from on defense

1177
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 21: because he's your best player on defense. That's why, Yes,

1178
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 21: that's not a good situation for us. Actscert. The optics

1179
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 21: are not good. He used to watch what comes out

1180
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 21: of his mouth because people can take it wrong. So

1181
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 21: he has to be more careful. He's going to be

1182
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 21: the leader of this defense, he has to be more

1183
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 21: connizant on what's coming out of his mouth because it's

1184
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 21: too easy for all of us to take it the

1185
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 21: wrong away. So he'd be very clear what he's saying

1186
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 21: and make sure that he's not tossing any Nelson of

1187
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 21: us not bid, but make sure that we're could that

1188
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 21: is not the case, and that he's willing to right.

1189
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 21: He wants the owners to do go all in when

1190
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 21: he's on the field as well. And speaking of going

1191
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 21: all in, if we're going all in this season, then

1192
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 21: they need to find a way to make a deal

1193
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 21: with that to maybe cut that salary cap hit in half,

1194
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 21: hopefully with the multiple year extension. And then you get

1195
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 21: some linebacker they tell them from I'm sorry, I can't

1196
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 21: remember the names, so uh from the Ravens. Okay, they

1197
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 21: have the linebackers and and uh the Jones from the Chiefs.

1198
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 21: He's a free agent if you're going all in, because

1199
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 21: you got to get you know, and maybe Barkley from

1200
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 21: the Giants, the type of the running back. If you're

1201
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 21: going all in, yes, just go all in because you

1202
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 21: know we want to win the championship. If you're gonna afterwards,

1203
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 21: we're gonna have a couple of years afterwards. But it

1204
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 21: won't make it won't be any it won't be It

1205
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 21: won't make a difference after that point, once we win

1206
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 21: the championship after not winnings one for thirty years.

1207
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well thanks for the call, James.

1208
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: I'll say this though, if if you know, fans just

1209
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: just don't have selective memory. Okay, I'm like, if just

1210
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: just remember the way you know what you're thinking. Now,

1211
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: if that's what you want, if you want, hey, I

1212
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: hope they do. If that's the mentality is that you

1213
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: want them to extend dak to cut his salary cap

1214
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: charge this year down significantly so you can go and

1215
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: get some of those players. Then just remember that that

1216
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: then if it doesn't work out next year and and

1217
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: then he's still a free agent. And now you know,

1218
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: I mean he's not a free agent. He's still under contract,

1219
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 2: and now that the cap charge is way higher, and

1220
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: it's like, what are the Cowboys doing? Why why do

1221
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: they still invest in this guy? It's because of this

1222
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 2: scenario right now for this year. So if they're going

1223
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: to do this, then that means he's the guy and

1224
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: you got to be okay with that, you know. So

1225
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: if not, then he's going to count fifty nine million

1226
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: and he's gonna They're gonna try to win somehow some

1227
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 2: way with with with what they have, and they're gonna

1228
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: draft players and play them because that's probably they're not

1229
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 2: going to have a lot of other options, and they're

1230
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: gonna have a younger team and and try to try

1231
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: to win that that way, and then then then it

1232
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, then then probably next year. If it

1233
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: doesn't work out this year, then I'm sure there'll be

1234
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: a different coach and a different quarterback, and then you're

1235
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: basically starting over. So you know, just just remember what

1236
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: you're asking for. If you really want them to go

1237
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: all in, then some of the steps that it's going

1238
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: to take to do that is probably going to mean that,

1239
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: you know, your quarterback is going to be here for

1240
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: a little bit. All right, let's go to David in Chicago.

1241
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 20: Yes, sir, how you doing today?

1242
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: Nick good Man?

1243
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 20: How are you doing good? How about them Cowboys?

1244
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: All right?

1245
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 2: How about them?

1246
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 20: I've been.

1247
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 3: There, you go.

1248
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 2: We had to get Jimmy in there too.

1249
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 20: Absolutely, here we go love it when that too?

1250
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: Is this your first Is this your first call? Yes, sir, Well,

1251
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: then guess what.

1252
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 20: I've been a huge fan of the Cowboys since the nineties.

1253
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 20: I'm from Chicago, so you can imagine what I've had

1254
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 20: to deal with. Sure, but I was calling because of

1255
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 20: the damn Quinn and information that just came about the

1256
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 20: Washington football team. I see this as the perfect opportunity,

1257
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 20: and I'm not really seeing a lot of Cowboys fans

1258
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 20: discussing this. Why don't we change the scheme now to

1259
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 20: a three to four put Michael Parsons at right outside linebacker.

1260
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 20: This will give us an extra big body in the

1261
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 20: middle to stop the run, and in my opinion, it

1262
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 20: is the best thing to do for this last year

1263
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 20: of McCarthy because then you can go look for your

1264
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 20: next head coach based upon the three to four scheme.

1265
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 20: Because what I'm seeing is the offense they're producing numbers

1266
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 20: no matter who the coordinator is. It feels like we've

1267
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 20: seen so many guys come in, even Jason Garrett producing

1268
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 20: good numbers before with Romo and Dak. But what I

1269
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 20: see is the defense is the real issue when the

1270
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 20: rubber meets the road. So my call is basically centered

1271
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 20: around would you be open to a three to four defense?

1272
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 20: Going back to that with those Wade Phillips days, Because

1273
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 20: I remember DeMarcus wearing at three four. He was a terror.

1274
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 20: He went to the Denver Bronx, got to play in

1275
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 20: the three to four again won a Super Bowl. Now,

1276
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 20: of course he had a Hall of Famer on the

1277
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 20: other side as well, at the left outside linebacker. But

1278
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 20: I really do believe DeMarcus Lawrence can play left outside linebacker,

1279
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 20: and in certain packages. We could always still do the

1280
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 20: nickel with the four down linemen, but I think it's

1281
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 20: smart to just switch toward base three four just because

1282
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 20: we cannot stop the run to day of our lives.

1283
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 20: Thank you so much for taking my call.

1284
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: All right, good thinking. I think Chris and I talked

1285
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: about that just today about you know, would it be

1286
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: possible to the three to four and you've mentioned DeMarcus

1287
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: ware and you mentioned Micah Parsons. Yes, those guys could

1288
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 2: be you could make them an outside linebacker in the

1289
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: three to four today, I mean easy. It's not so

1290
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: much about that to me as it is the other lineman.

1291
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 2: Who do you have the defensive ends that are really

1292
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: defensive tackles. Do you have those guys? You know? Do

1293
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: you have two inside linebackers that can step up and

1294
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: make those plays? Do you have a nose tackle. You know,

1295
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: you'd have to probably sign Hankins for that. And you

1296
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: know there's osa fit into that, you know, is he

1297
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Speaker 2: is he a three to four guy? Could he fit perhaps?

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Speaker 2: You know? I mean I think I think great football

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Speaker 2: players can be great football players. One thing's always kind

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Speaker 2: of annoyed me when they're like, no, we can't sign

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Speaker 2: this guy. He's not he's not a scheme fit, you know,

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Speaker 2: like like the Honey Badger, like Tyron Matthews. The one

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Speaker 2: always comes to mind, like, no, it doesn't fit the scheme.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, he's a badass in like four other schemes,

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Speaker 2: so why can't we just change the scheme? You know,

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Speaker 2: Like I know it's it's different than that. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: I think, if you I think great players can can

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Speaker 2: fit into a scheme, okay, And so I think there's

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Speaker 2: other other pieces there. I don't necessarily seeing them switching

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Speaker 2: to a three four unless they're committed over over time,

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Speaker 2: you know. And that's the thing. Bill Parcells tried to

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Speaker 2: do that in over a couple of years. He started

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, and he was going to

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Speaker 2: do it for a couple of years. But what happened

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Speaker 2: was is they drafted where they drafted Spears, then they

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Speaker 2: drafted Kevin Burnett, and then later on they drafted Chris

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Speaker 2: Canny and Dre Ratliffe and so in one draft. So

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Speaker 2: I mean we shouill do a documentary on that we did,

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Speaker 2: but all of those guys in one draft and now

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Speaker 2: there all of a sudden like, no, we can play

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Speaker 2: three four right now. We have the pieces in place,

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Speaker 2: So if they can do that, I don't necessarily see

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Speaker 2: it happening in one year, but it might be kind

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Speaker 2: of a commitment that you can go to and yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think Micah Parsons can do it. It's do you

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Speaker 2: have the insight pieces that would kind of were really

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Speaker 2: what it comes down to, all right, Joe and Stanford.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be our last caller, usually the first caller.

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Speaker 9: But what's up, hey, brother, how are you today?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? What's up? Well?

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Speaker 9: I'm sorry I miss Woody, but I've got to talk

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Speaker 9: to him before, so it's only fair somebody else gets

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Speaker 9: talked to.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 9: So I haven't been listening to the show. I just

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Speaker 9: I just called in cold here. I haven't been able

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01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 9: to get you while I'm in my vehicle. But my my,

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Speaker 9: My question obviously is going to be about dan Quinn.

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Speaker 9: When we talked the other day, we talked about, Hey,

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Speaker 9: is this gonna just nothing's gonna change. We obviously that's

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Speaker 9: not going to be the case.

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Speaker 10: Now put you see about on, Joe, Well, oh, I

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 10: got a female time.

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Speaker 9: Oh you heard, you heard the thing?

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01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 8: That's my wife put you about on.

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01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 9: That's funny. Oh, that's funny.

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: You heard that.

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Speaker 9: So obviously there's going to be changes. Uh. Do you

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Speaker 9: feel like that this coaching pick is going to be

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Speaker 9: one hundred percent Mike McCarthy's decision. Bid People said, Mike

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Speaker 9: McCarthy's a decision or what.

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. That's a really good question. Joe. Uh, well,

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01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: I'll say this, none of it, None of these decisions

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01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: will probably be one hundred percent Mike McCarthy's because I

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: think that they all pride themselves on how they collaborate

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 2: and and and they they don't always make decisions that

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Speaker 2: are one hundred percent. They get on the same page.

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Speaker 2: But I know exactly what you're thinking and why you're

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01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: saying that, and it's a it's a good question. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's probably gonna have some guys in mind that he

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Speaker 2: that he really wants. But at the same time, I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: you know, Jerry and Steven, they're gonna have to sign

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01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: off on that, so they'll, i mean, they'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, and we'll probably never know, you know,

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Speaker 2: whether what happens down the road. But that that's a

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Speaker 2: that's a really good question. And and you know, I

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Speaker 2: think if we knew the answer to that, then we

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Speaker 2: would know exactly what what might happen here in the

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Speaker 2: next year or two.

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Speaker 9: Well, one thing, there are three really great candidate got

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Speaker 9: there and I know.

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Speaker 2: The probably now go for it. Who do you got

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Speaker 2: the three?

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Speaker 9: And I'm gonna talk about I'm gonna get a little bit.

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Speaker 9: But there all three head coaches Rabel, uh the coach

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Speaker 9: from the commander's coper guy's name now, uh, they head

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01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 9: coach that just got fired. And Bill Belichick. So those

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 9: are three candidates that would be real good defense coordinators

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Speaker 9: and they're not going to be head coaches.

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Speaker 2: This year, Okay, Ron Rivera, that one that one maybe

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Speaker 2: could make some sense. Rabel not sure if about that one.

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01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: He's trying to be a head coach and it may

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Speaker 2: be a situation like McCarthy where he would sit out

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Speaker 2: a year and then and then we'll see Belichick. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just don't. I don't see the greatest,

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01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 2: you know, the greatest head coach of all time, just

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: not not you know, getting a job and being a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator under Mike McCarthy. I' means, just don't see

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Speaker 2: that happening. What a terrible situation that would be from

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Speaker 2: for McCarthy. I mean, seriously, forget forget losing a game.

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Speaker 2: I mean like if you're down at the half, I

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: mean there're gonna be people calling for you at that point.

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Speaker 2: That this doesn't seem like a fun situation for him

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 2: at least. But then again, that's it's not all about that.

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Speaker 2: I I I don't see that happening. But I think

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Speaker 2: Rivera would be a name that you would throw out there,

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Speaker 2: and then Uh and then Rabel as well. I think

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Speaker 2: I know Uh are one of our staff writers, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 2: is working on a story on on some potential names,

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Speaker 2: and and those two are on there. I don't think

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01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: Belichick is on there, but also some some in house

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: you know names as well from the Cowboys staff. And

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Speaker 2: but like I said, I'll reiterate. I think I think

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Speaker 2: some of the questions about scheme and all that it's

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: got it just like it would on offense. Okay, just

1406
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 2: like if you've brought in an offensive coordinator, your first

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: question would be what what how do you how do

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01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: you view Dak and what what are some of the

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Speaker 2: things you're gonna do with him? It's the same with

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons. And so that's that's what I would be

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01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: interested in, is what what do they what do they think?

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Speaker 2: Where do they think he would line up? What's best

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Speaker 2: for him? And then also that's a one A and

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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: then one B is you know, how are you gonna

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Speaker 2: stop the run? That's that's what they gotta do. You

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01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: gotta be able to stop the run. But good, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I always love when when people call in, even

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: if their opinions are kind of out there, even if

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Speaker 2: they've got some outlandish you know, observations or whatever, you know,

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: don't just we see the problems, try to find a solution,

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01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 2: try to come up with an answer. That's what I love.

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01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: And so I'm never gonna say, oh, that's that's crazy

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01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: or wild or whatever, because you know, here we are

1424
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: stuck with these questions that we don't have answers to,

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01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 2: but at least let's come up and figure it out.

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01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's like going outside in Texas in July

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 2: and saying it's hot. Well, we all know that what

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna do about it. You know, you're gonna you're

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01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 2: gonna fix the AC or you're gonna get indoors or

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? So all right, sounds good.

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Speaker 2: This has been a it's been a really good show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all the calls. Also, Darren Woodson joined us for

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Speaker 2: the first twenty minutes or so twenty five minutes. Great

1434
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: to be on with him. We're all got our fingers

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01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 2: crossed that he is going to be in the Pro

1436
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame this time next week. We'll find

1437
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 2: that out. That is the reason why there will not

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Speaker 2: be a Thursday show next week, because I'll be there

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 2: in Vegas as well covering that also NFL Honors and

1440
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 2: anybody else that's kind of walking around Radio Row that

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01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: tends to happen. I know we talked to Dak and

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01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons there last year, so we'll see if see

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01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 2: what I can get into their next Thursday. But we

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01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: will have a show on Tuesday at the normal time,

1445
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 2: back to our one o'clock time. We changed it today

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 2: to accommodate Darren's schedule, but we'll be back at one

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Speaker 2: o'clock on Tuesday, taking all of your calls, talking about

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Speaker 2: the Pro Ball. Probably not, but we'll be talking about

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01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 2: whatever whatever happens. Maybe a new defensive coordinator by then,

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01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: or or we'll at least talk about some of the candidates.

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Speaker 2: So for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman. We will see

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Speaker 2: you next time on cab Boys Storyline seem

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