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Speaker 2: all right, Kayla is here? Good morning, Kayla?

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Good morning, and well how are you, Kayla?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program. Doing great? So you reached out

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Speaker 2: to us about your fiance. You guys you met a

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Speaker 2: few years ago, and we're getting into some financial territory

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Speaker 2: here too. This is you know, this is a place

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Speaker 2: to come for any sort of cryptocurrency news and advice.

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Speaker 2: On the pulse of the market. Kiki is on the

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Speaker 2: pulse of all things financial. So what's going on with

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Speaker 2: this guy?

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Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you taking my call. Listen. So a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, I was, you know, my fiance and

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Speaker 3: I were doing a lot of research, well he mostly

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Speaker 3: he was doing research on bitcoin, and he seemed to know,

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Speaker 3: like really what he was doing with it, and so

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Speaker 3: we decided to invest a lot of affair amount of money.

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Speaker 4: On bitcoin.

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Speaker 3: We went fifty to fifty and he said that he

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Speaker 3: was going to do well, he said, to grow it

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Speaker 3: in the future.

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Speaker 1: You said, a few years ago you did this. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you rich Redge girl.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, so yeah, that's my financial that's that's that's

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Speaker 2: how I feel about that financially as your advisor, girl,

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Speaker 2: you rig Ridge anyway. Okay, so years ago you invested

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Speaker 2: in this fifty to fifty then.

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Speaker 3: What so, which you know, that's also what I thought.

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Speaker 3: But so, okay, we're getting married and like, as you know,

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Speaker 3: weddings are super expensive and at the moment, we're pretty overbudget,

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Speaker 3: and so I asked him, you know, like, hey, what

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Speaker 3: pay to the venue? And my fance reacted really weirdly,

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Speaker 3: and so like it took you know, I kind of

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Speaker 3: that when he checked on our you know, on our account,

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Speaker 3: it had grown a lot and obviously and then he

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Speaker 3: cast it out and used it to pay apparently some

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Speaker 3: of our bills and then apparently also a vacation that

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Speaker 3: we took and I had I had no idea, And

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Speaker 3: so how.

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Speaker 1: Much you invested?

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Speaker 2: But since in the last five years it's up one

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Speaker 2: thousand percent, so whatever you invested, it was a ten

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Speaker 2: not talking about I don't know how many coin you

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, exactly, Okay, yeah, and apparently it's all gone.

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Speaker 2: All it's all gone or like some of the inkrey

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Speaker 2: he spent all of it.

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Speaker 3: And you know what, that's also a question that I have, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean, because if you bought one one coin

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked recently. Let me see you what is

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Speaker 1: My brain just like automatically shuts off. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: I want to understand wind bitcoin value. One hundred and

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Speaker 1: I wish I could get it same.

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Speaker 2: Why was I could have gone ten years ago one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten grand anyway, So you don't. So he

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Speaker 2: took money that is both of yours that he has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, huh.

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Speaker 2: Now, why didn't you have access if you put half

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Speaker 2: So I mean, why why did you not ask for

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Speaker 2: Because I think I would, you know, if I put

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Speaker 5: But no, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Hear you there, and that's the way that I wish

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Speaker 3: he said, you want to take care of our finances.

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Speaker 3: So I just kind of, now that it's coming out

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Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you this, Kayla, because why I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Well, just now here I am on a radio show.

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Speaker 3: I knew about how my money was taken away from people.

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Speaker 2: Well, there was nothing to be ashamed of calling a

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Speaker 2: radio show for advice. There's absolutely nothing. This is what

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Speaker 2: we do and there's nothing shameful here. But I guess

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Speaker 2: you didn't do anything wrong. But where did you think

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Speaker 2: the money was coming from to pay off these joint

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Speaker 2: bills slash go on vacation? So like, if not from there,

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Speaker 2: did you just think he had You just thought he

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Speaker 3: I didn't think much about it at the expenses. Like,

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Speaker 3: we we both have good jobs, we both work full time.

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Speaker 3: He makes does make more than me, and so I honestly,

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Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't see anything of it. It never

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this is this is interesting because like maybe

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Speaker 2: you wouldn't have gone on the vacation or chosen to

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Speaker 2: So you know what I mean. Like, so this guy's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we can go on vacation, Sure, I got you. Or

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Speaker 2: let's go on vacation, and he pays for it. But

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Speaker 2: if you had in my mind, if I'm with someone

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Speaker 2: then you've got the money to pay for that. If

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Speaker 2: a different conversation that we have to have together exactly,

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Speaker 2: because then you have to ask yourself, is this vacation

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Speaker 2: to do to pay these bills off? Right now? You

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Speaker 2: know there's a lot that goes into that. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: you had a right to know when the money that

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Speaker 2: you that's half yours was being spent. In hell, in

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Speaker 2: my opinion, you had every right to know even if

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Speaker 2: it benefited you, but he said that he.

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Speaker 4: Used it on stuff for us, and so he's like,

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Speaker 4: he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's at a point where he doesn't understand

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Speaker 1: I would also ask for a full accounting. I would.

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Speaker 2: I would ask like, okay, great, so you spent all

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars and a big increase over

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Speaker 2: a fair amount of money there. So I think i'd

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Speaker 2: also be like, hey, let me see where you spent it,

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Speaker 2: because that's a lot of I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 2: I think he's I don't know where, I don't know where.

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Speaker 5: Away he's taking care of another family on his status, and.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know boy eight five five five one

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Speaker 2: three five you guys, I'd love to hear what you

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Speaker 2: have to say about this. I don't think you can

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Speaker 2: trust this guy. He's it's not for him to go

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Speaker 2: spend joint funds without talking to you. And then I

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Speaker 2: also think he spent all of it, Like where did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, and I'm really at a point I

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Speaker 3: just I don't know if I really can marry someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't and and so and in his counter

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Speaker 2: argument as well, I spent it on you, Well did you? Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: all right, well maybe we didn't have as much as

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Speaker 2: I thought. I'm it, just show me. But then it's like,

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Speaker 2: but I also didn't authorize. I didn't know this is

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Speaker 2: we were spending that money on this. Now in your mind,

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Speaker 2: it was this was going to be for the wedding. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we don't have any money for the wedding. Now

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Speaker 2: what are we supposed to do? So, yeah, this is

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Speaker 2: all very shady to me, Cayle. I'm gonna take some

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Speaker 2: have a good day and good luck. Yeah you got it.

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Speaker 2: These guys co invested in some crypto five years ago

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Speaker 2: he says oh, I spent it on our vacation. I

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Speaker 2: spent it on some bills already, but you were there

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Speaker 2: and they were your bills. So hey, it's all good, right,

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Speaker 2: But like, no, not right. I mean it was half

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Speaker 2: my money, so we're half. I get half vote in

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Speaker 2: how we spent. And by the way, whose bills? Your bills?

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Speaker 2: My bills? Right?

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Speaker 1: You know, where are the receipts?

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Speaker 5: I need to see exactly what you need a breakdown

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Speaker 5: of where the money went and what's in your account

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Speaker 5: right now? Because why did you need to dip into

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Speaker 5: our savings if we both are working right now? Like,

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Speaker 5: what do you have going on? Are you gambling on

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Speaker 5: the side, you got a drug problem, you got a family?

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Speaker 5: What's going on? And girl, I believe everything happens for

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Speaker 5: a reason. So the fact that you're finding this out

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Speaker 5: before the wedding and it's stopping your wedding planning might

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Speaker 5: be a sign.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvin, Hi, Marvin, how you doing?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 6: Marvin?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 1: Marvin? What do you you hear this this scenario? What

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Speaker 4: Run for the hills?

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Speaker 1: Yes, right, you gotta go, Like where doll this money go?

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Speaker 7: My thing is if she is willing to just go

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Speaker 7: behind her back, use the money and.

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Speaker 4: Not even tell her, Hey, I'm didn't get to this

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Speaker 4: account and just.

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Speaker 1: Gonna do it. Oh Willy Nelly whatever the word. Yeah, yeah, there.

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Speaker 5: He will.

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Speaker 7: He is there that he is willing to do it again, uh,

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Speaker 7: and not feeling shame about it.

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Speaker 1: So she should run run for the hills. And like,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you discuss that?

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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you say, like, hey, we had a chance

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Speaker 2: to pay off a big chunk of our debt and

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Speaker 2: we can go on this cool vacation. Well maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: outside of savings, you can't afford the vacation, right, Like

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Speaker 2: maybe that money was supposed to be over here, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't to be spent that way, but you and I

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Speaker 2: guess you could say, Kaylor should have asked that question, well,

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Speaker 2: where'd you come up with this money to buy you know,

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Speaker 2: this trip or whatever?

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Speaker 1: But maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in her mind he makes enough money for this,

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Speaker 2: So where's that money? Then where's the money?

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Speaker 1: Marvin? If someone to pay for a trip for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm not asking where the money is coming from.

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Speaker 6: I'm going on a free trip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't say it to Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thank you Marvin, have a good day. Thank you. I

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Speaker 2: agree with you, and you know, I don't like to

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Speaker 2: go to the most sinister place. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: it's infidelity per se, but like this is how this

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Speaker 2: is what happens when people are gambling. This is what

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Speaker 2: happens when people have some form of addiction. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying he does. I don't know, but like this is

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Speaker 2: the kind of thing people do when they are chasing

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Speaker 2: debts or you know, yeah something. Well, wow, we just

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Speaker 2: did go there. We just was it to mafia. We

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Speaker 2: went straight to the mafia. Hey Rachel, Hi, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Hi Stayer, goat what do you think?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? Go? She needs to run. He has shown her

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Speaker 6: everything she needs to see. It's super unfortunate to have

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Speaker 6: lost everything, but if he's been sloppy with his money

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Speaker 6: in communication right off the bat, he has shown her

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Speaker 6: everything she needs to see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to see this account, like me personally,

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Speaker 2: I need to see this account, Like I want to

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Speaker 2: see where it all went because it would be pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you had I don't know tens of

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Speaker 2: thoul and I'm making this up, but if you had

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Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars, like.

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Speaker 1: Where did it all go? Like what kind of trip

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Speaker 1: did you take?

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Speaker 2: Like we went to Saint Louis Man, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: like how you spend that much?

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Speaker 6: I was so exciting these days. It would have been

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Speaker 6: a way more clout to say that he had crypto

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Speaker 6: then he went to Hawaii or wherever he.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, thank you, Rachel, have a good day, Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much?

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Speaker 1: Is it Naim? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Sir?

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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Brad. There go go.

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Speaker 7: Why well, I think she uh, he did not communicate

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Speaker 7: well enough in regards of making this decision. I feel

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Speaker 7: like this is a you know, a marriage decision or

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Speaker 7: if he has a decision regardless, like you know, it's

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Speaker 7: still a relationship decision. And if for whatever reason, you know,

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Speaker 7: he's saying he did what he did, like if I

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Speaker 7: was sure, I would ask for like some kind of receipts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, like some kind of proof, like all right, you

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Speaker 7: say you did this, but can you back it up?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'd like to see what debt we don't

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Speaker 2: have anymore? Like, well, that's good. What bills am I

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Speaker 2: paying that I don't need to be paying anymore because

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Speaker 2: you paid him up? Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 1: Have a great day.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you listening to Hey, Sheila, good morning, Good morning guys, Hey,

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Speaker 2: good mornings.

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Speaker 4: There go go leave with show bridle heels home.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah run.

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Speaker 4: The biggest thing out of all this, honestly, is that

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Speaker 4: he hit it. If it wasn't for her inquiring about it,

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Speaker 4: because she was asking about using the funds for something else,

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Speaker 4: for venue, he wouldn't have even told her wants to

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Speaker 4: be married to somebody like that. That's I'm saying, like,

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Speaker 4: when somebody shows you who you are, believe him. He

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Speaker 4: showed you who he was. You know how many marriages

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Speaker 4: and from finances. Please don't do that. Leave.

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Speaker 2: And he had to know he was doing something wrong

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Speaker 2: because he knew a wedding's I mean, they're engaged, so

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Speaker 2: he knew a wedding is forthcoming. Where was where was

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Speaker 2: the money going to come from for that? If they're

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Speaker 2: planning a wedding, if not for this slush fund that

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Speaker 2: they thought they had, Like, I don't know, this is

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Speaker 2: very And if he had tons of money saved himself

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Speaker 2: or something, well then he can just recoup the account.

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Speaker 1: But it sounds like he doesn't.

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Speaker 4: And supposedly he makes more than her, then what would

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Speaker 4: he do with his money?

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Speaker 1: That's when he wakes right, exactly. His money's funny. Now,

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Speaker 1: where's his money?

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Speaker 4: Right? Everybody's money funny? Now whatever he does, like when

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Speaker 4: you're married, you're one unit. But whatever that man is doing,

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Speaker 4: she has to deal with it. No, no, no no no.

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Speaker 4: This wasn't nobody but Jesus saving her.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you do it.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes sadness turns into protection.

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Speaker 2: Hey, all right, left, thank you she did ay, And

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Speaker 2: you know what, drop drop the money.

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Speaker 1: We'll leave it right there.