WEBVTT - Contracts and Taxes

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome the Money and Wealth with John O'Briant, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. Hey, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is John Hope Brian and this is Money and Wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>I am honored to bring to you a special segment

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<v Speaker 1>breaking down contracts and taxes. This is something that is

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental to your success in business, in life, even your

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<v Speaker 1>personal life. I'll cover all of this over the next

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes or so. This was inspired in part

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<v Speaker 1>by the artist Jailly Roll and a clip that he

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<v Speaker 1>did on social media, which I then turned into a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of my straight Talk Live series on my platforms

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<v Speaker 1>where he talked about contracts in the music business and

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<v Speaker 1>he broke down how artists get in a bad spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to say taken advantage of, because as

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<v Speaker 1>I will describe here, in most cases, they're not being

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<v Speaker 1>actively taken advantage of. They're just not actively paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to the thing that matters most. It's the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>In that example, it's the business of music, and to

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<v Speaker 1>think about it in any other ways is not to

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're doing. Or to quote my dear friend,

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<v Speaker 1>my duty departed friend, Quincy Jones, he says, if you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're in the music business, and you don't own

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<v Speaker 1>music rights, publishing rights, licensing rights, some kind of rights,

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<v Speaker 1>writing rights. You're actually not in the music business. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a temporary performer. Drop the mic. Statement by Quincy Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Jelly Row goes into this thing, and you can look

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<v Speaker 1>at the foot clip on mind, social media platforms, at

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<v Speaker 1>John Brian everywhere wherever you platform you Tuesday to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram is probably easier. I break this down in

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<v Speaker 1>great detail, but the key part of this is he

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<v Speaker 1>explains that when you owe a million dollars, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>given in advance. Make this clear. You've been given an

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<v Speaker 1>advance for a million dollars. You don't realize that you

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<v Speaker 1>owe that money back. It's not a payment and you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all good. Next item. It is an advance against revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that works is you you extract things

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<v Speaker 1>that give it a million dollars. It's supposed to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for productions of your albums and your videos and your

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<v Speaker 1>business expenses. Oftentimes people go start raving mad and start

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<v Speaker 1>spending money on stuff, you know, cars for their friends

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<v Speaker 1>and jewelry and travel and all of that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they run out of money. And they go back and

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<v Speaker 1>they may ask for some more and that's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they think they're getting some more money in payment. Really

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<v Speaker 1>you really just increasing your internal credit line. And the

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<v Speaker 1>way that the record company gets a back is they've

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<v Speaker 1>got a contract with you in this example and in

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<v Speaker 1>his example was seventy thirty. He thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>really great deal. Some artists are eighty twenty. Some artists

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<v Speaker 1>are ninety five to five mean meaning the record company

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<v Speaker 1>in this example. And don't get mad. Then business as

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<v Speaker 1>a capitalist is just a it's just not emotional. Business

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<v Speaker 1>is a gladiator sport. It's a non emotional situation. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not meant for it to be personal. They just it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. So again, be careful of the

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<v Speaker 1>contracts that you signed. But and this is in fair

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<v Speaker 1>exchange is no robbery. So in this example, he owned

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent of his revenue. They owned seventy percent of

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<v Speaker 1>every dollar that was made until he paid the advance back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's use a million dollars as an easy number. So

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<v Speaker 1>until so they got for every dollar of new album sales.

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<v Speaker 1>To make this easy, the record company got seventy cents

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<v Speaker 1>and he got thirty cents. Are paid back at the

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<v Speaker 1>rate of the deal, which means that out of his

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<v Speaker 1>thirty cents, the million dollars he was advanced gets paid back,

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<v Speaker 1>and he keeps paying that million dollars back from his

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<v Speaker 1>thirty percent while the record company is getting there seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent until he repays the million dollars in total, in

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<v Speaker 1>which case he then starts recouping thirty percent to his

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<v Speaker 1>pocket paid back at the rate of the deal, which

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<v Speaker 1>means that the record company, the fancier, the venture capitalist,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who's backing you here, the one who's taking

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<v Speaker 1>the most risk, may earn a million dollars before you

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<v Speaker 1>even get your first cens of your thirty cents. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they will make earn a million dollars the're gonna earn.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonn get their million dollars back, but they may

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<v Speaker 1>own it, earn another million dollars or seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars or you know, it depends on how this gets calculated.

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<v Speaker 1>But they may earn a million dollars back on top

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<v Speaker 1>of your on top of your your million that you

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<v Speaker 1>re imburse them before you make a dime, because they're

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<v Speaker 1>making a seventy thirty split. It's actually they can actually

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<v Speaker 1>do better than that in an example, and fair exchange

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<v Speaker 1>is no robbery. So just just watch the contracts you signed,

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<v Speaker 1>because if it's a ninety five to five contract, which

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<v Speaker 1>some artists do sign, I mean, that's really painful. They

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<v Speaker 1>make ninety five cents of every dollar that comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>you make five cents, and you're going to pay them

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<v Speaker 1>out of your five cents the million dollars back, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, we don't want to do that calculation. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the positives here, because these contracts don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be ankles around your weights, around your angle

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<v Speaker 1>or and you know, some kind of a negative situation

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<v Speaker 1>that can be quite empowering. They've been for me in

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<v Speaker 1>most of my business experience. But actually I've had some

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<v Speaker 1>bad experiences too. I've written some bad countures, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>some bad agreements. I've had run ins with the irs

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<v Speaker 1>and franchise tax board in California. We'll get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's let's talk about contracts in taxes as a

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<v Speaker 1>foundation for your financial success. Let's now start with my

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<v Speaker 1>own personal story, and I described this in my book

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<v Speaker 1>Financial Literacy for All, which is a bestseller, been a

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<v Speaker 1>bestseller for the last year encourage you to go get

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<v Speaker 1>your copy. And when I was in business, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to paying taxes because my view was the

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<v Speaker 1>company wasn't making money, so why should I worry about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And I worry about it when I become profitable. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually made two mistakes. I hadn't paid I hadn't filed

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<v Speaker 1>personal tax returns for about six years in a row. Yes, me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of my teens. I was homeless during

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I was homeless six months of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess you'll understand some of that. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just rolling really fast, trying to hustle. You can all

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<v Speaker 1>relate to that. But no excuses I should have filed

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<v Speaker 1>my taxes. Well, that wasn't the worst part, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I hadn't paid my taxes, because that was not

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't filed taxes or I didn't know any taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hadn't filed them. So once I did file them,

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<v Speaker 1>I owe penalties. And the IRS is an extraordinarily punitive lender,

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't you want to owe money to anybody

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<v Speaker 1>but the IRS. And they didn't come after me, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't threaten me. I was a small fish not making

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money at the time. But I finally

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<v Speaker 1>filed them all at one time before they came up

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<v Speaker 1>to me. I came to them, which I'm encouraging you

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and I just paid the penalty through a

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<v Speaker 1>payment agreement over time. That way they hit me was

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<v Speaker 1>later on, when I was making a little money through

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<v Speaker 1>the business. Well, the business was not profitable. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of cash flowing through the business. I had

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<v Speaker 1>employees I was paying. I was not paying with holdings

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<v Speaker 1>out of the employees paycheck. So you when your employees

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<v Speaker 1>are a W two employee, they're a salary or hourly employee,

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to pay with holdings out of that. Well, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured the business wasn't profitable. I wasn't profitable. Why

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<v Speaker 1>should I do that. I just write them a straight

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<v Speaker 1>check for what I owe them. The Franchise Tax Board

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<v Speaker 1>the State of California out a wind of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they literally put up a cash register in my lobby

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted their pound of flesh. They would take

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<v Speaker 1>every receipt, every check that came in that front door

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<v Speaker 1>until they got their paid paid back the taxes plus

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<v Speaker 1>the penalties and interest that I owed them from the

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<v Speaker 1>from the employee with holdings that I stole from them.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't steal it, but I I burrowed it. And

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very painful. We're talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was, as I recalled, bout forty thousand dollars in total.

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<v Speaker 1>And and back then that was a that was a

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<v Speaker 1>that was a death nail for me. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>to hustle and take care of them and take care

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<v Speaker 1>of my responsibility at the same time. And I learned

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<v Speaker 1>a very valuable lesson from that experience. Uh, those two experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just just treat the irs as your business

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<v Speaker 1>partner and file your tax returns. Look, you cannot on

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<v Speaker 1>your life without you know, this whole country runs on

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<v Speaker 1>taxes being paid. Your police are being paid by taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>Your schools are being paid by taxes. Your the roads

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<v Speaker 1>and gutters and the maintenance, the building of bridges, uh lights,

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<v Speaker 1>street lights, sanitation services. I mean, all the infrastructure for

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<v Speaker 1>the city you live in and the country you live

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<v Speaker 1>in is paid through taxes or as a to pay

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<v Speaker 1>this really plane, even if you want to distribute money

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<v Speaker 1>like a socialist, you have to first collect it like

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<v Speaker 1>a capitalist. All this is connected and folks as well

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<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, I don't want to be a capitalist.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to work for nonprofit. Where nonprofits money comes from,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's in this case the government in the government

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<v Speaker 1>gets that money and money from taxes or if you

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<v Speaker 1>get in your money from charitable contributions from wealthy individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>those individuals are getting a tax break because of making

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<v Speaker 1>a charitable contribution to you, which affects Hello, they're taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Capone, the famed gangster, did not get taken into prison, arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>and then put ultimately into prison because of great murder mayhem,

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<v Speaker 1>all of which he on some level was guilty of

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<v Speaker 1>but was never convicted and dieded but never convicted. He

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<v Speaker 1>just got away with it all. But when the IRS

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<v Speaker 1>came up to him for tech, when the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>came up to him for tax evasion, boom like. They're

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<v Speaker 1>like the government was gangster. They're like, you can make

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<v Speaker 1>all this money illegally if you want to, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't prove you made it illegally, but your lifestyle and

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<v Speaker 1>such that you can't do that without making X kind

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<v Speaker 1>of money and you didn't pay taxes on that, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's ill gotten gains. We want to share, and they

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<v Speaker 1>put him and they locked him up and he died

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<v Speaker 1>a very painful death. After that, it was over. So

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<v Speaker 1>pay your taxes. So you're going to understand the basis

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<v Speaker 1>of contracts. In taxes, you're going to learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves, yourselves from unscrupulous people, and protect your businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get best practices for wealth safety and

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<v Speaker 1>well building wealth safely and legally and sustaining it retaining it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So a contract is just simply an agreement, right to

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<v Speaker 1>start with the basics. A contract is simply in agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's only as good as as it's enforceability, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's only as good as a people. I might also

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<v Speaker 1>add who are signing the contracts. If you have two

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<v Speaker 1>unethical people on two sides of a signing of a contract,

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<v Speaker 1>the contract is useless because it's only as good as

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<v Speaker 1>a full faith and ability of the people signing it.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's assume that people are honorable. So every major deal, partnership,

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<v Speaker 1>or investment should have a contract. I love limited liability contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>LLC's are simple or elegant, and they're easy for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. I have a ton of LLC agreements. When

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<v Speaker 1>I had the Promise Homes company, I since sold most

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<v Speaker 1>of the company, But when I had that company, we

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<v Speaker 1>had just I mean, I think it was hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>LLC agreements. The ideal situation, we owned seven hundred homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Just under that, the ideal situation, which would have been

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<v Speaker 1>to have each one of the seven hundred homes in

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<v Speaker 1>its own limited liability corporation, its own LLC. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we bought the homes in bunches, so we would have

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<v Speaker 1>a group of homes in one limited liability corporation. So

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody tripped fail of fake injury or whatever on

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<v Speaker 1>a house, or wanted to sue because they realized I

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<v Speaker 1>owned it, or whatever, you could only sue the asset

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<v Speaker 1>or assets that are in that bucket of assets in

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<v Speaker 1>that LLC Limited about ability corporation. You couldn't punch through

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<v Speaker 1>the LLC and get to me or my family or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my other companies are all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're greedy and unethical in that situation, not suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's greedy and unethical, but limited liability for alcs really

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<v Speaker 1>help in that regard. So key contract clauses in what

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<v Speaker 1>they mean payment terms avoid getting paid late or being

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<v Speaker 1>paid not at all by having payment terms. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of work? It prevents misunderstandings about the responsibilities that

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<v Speaker 1>you have in a contract or someone else. What's a

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<v Speaker 1>termination clause is what happens if things don't work out

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<v Speaker 1>in an agreement. So so how do you basically how

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<v Speaker 1>you get out of the agreement? By the way, I

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<v Speaker 1>must just throw one in here. In perpetuity, right, that

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<v Speaker 1>means that I just I love that frame. I was

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<v Speaker 1>with Cam and Cam Newton, the NFL star, We did

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast together on his show Funky Fridays. You'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing that soon and it's a great, great interview with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a great guy. And he learned the phrase in

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<v Speaker 1>his contract negotiations in perpetuity in negotiating on his media

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<v Speaker 1>company after his football crew career. He learned that lesson

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<v Speaker 1>and it's stuck in his head. That means it goes

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<v Speaker 1>on forever. Right, Whatever you're signing in perpetuity means you're

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<v Speaker 1>giving rights forever in perpetuity. These things really matter. What's

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<v Speaker 1>a non compete and confidentiality it's protecting your ideas and

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<v Speaker 1>your businesses. Essentially, noncompete agreement and accomplished reality. Agree. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me talk to you about a lesson I learned in

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<v Speaker 1>a contract I had done a deal with. Well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you a bad situation first, and I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>you a good one. So when I was coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in business, Brian Group Companies, I believe it was w

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you got the name of the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the evening, it was Brian New Companies and WCC

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<v Speaker 1>Funding Corporation. I was like nineteen twenty one years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I ran this business in La Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were in an office building, the Westwood gave Way

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<v Speaker 1>Complex at Santa Monica in Los Yenaga, and my assistant

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<v Speaker 1>now my chief of staff, Rachel daff I'd ask her

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<v Speaker 1>to go downstairs every day pretty much and get myself

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<v Speaker 1>a sandwich or whatever, and I would just work through lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was so focused on working and hustling whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that I created my own terms for how I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to pay that bill, I guess, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>failed to pay the cafe bill downstairs. It wasn't much,

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<v Speaker 1>it was eight hundred bucks or something, but even work,

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<v Speaker 1>and that guy sued me. I have never been sued

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<v Speaker 1>by anything important like no, no, anything important. I've taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of all my big deals, all mortgages, contracts. My

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<v Speaker 1>credit score is like cool, it's all. But this one situation,

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<v Speaker 1>these small ones, I let these things slip. I didn't sign,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a contract with the cafe owner. They

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<v Speaker 1>let me slide basically on you know, having an informal situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and they took me to court, small claims court, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was very easy for them to get a judgment

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<v Speaker 1>against me. In that case, I didn't show up, so

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<v Speaker 1>the judge hit me with a default judgment. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a default judgment because you I didn't show up, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't show up for court, you will get

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<v Speaker 1>a default judgment against you. And it's very painful because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a one sided conversation and you can't argue about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I ended up owing this guy. It wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>lot much with eight hundred thousand dollars, but back then

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of money for me and the

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<v Speaker 1>more painful ones. I had a guy, Jimmy was his name,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was Jimmy's car detailing. I remember Jimmy and

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy would wash my car and it was a Mercedes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think four to twenty sl Sel and I love

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<v Speaker 1>the car, and he would have washed the car once

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<v Speaker 1>a week. And Jimmy had a contract. Jimmy didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>have a high school education, right, Jimmy didn't have good

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<v Speaker 1>teach but Jimmy had a good sense. And Jimmy on

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<v Speaker 1>his bill that I or my assistant would sign every

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<v Speaker 1>time he finished the washing a car, we'd sign an

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<v Speaker 1>invoice it said at the bottom ten percent fee compounded

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<v Speaker 1>with penalties for all unpaid balances, where this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was an unpaid balance. And this dude ultimately took me

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<v Speaker 1>to court. I thought he was a friend. He was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a businessman, or as as jay Z would say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a business man. I'm a business man. And

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<v Speaker 1>Homeboy took Homeboy with no teeth oldofsiss who I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was my buddy who was washing my car, oh and

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<v Speaker 1>returning back to the hood while I was at Westwood

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<v Speaker 1>Gateway Complex in West la and that marble office building

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be important. He took me to court in

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<v Speaker 1>one because he had contract agreement with me and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay attention, and he was right. He had me

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<v Speaker 1>my signature and all these invoices, and it said clear

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<v Speaker 1>as day that I would pay a ten percent feet

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<v Speaker 1>on the unpaid balance. It was all an unpaid balance,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd paid penalties and interest on the top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I had no choice but to pay him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was honored to do it. He earned it all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I actually felt very bad about it. Lesson learned

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<v Speaker 1>later on and later on, meaning like recently I signed. Recently,

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<v Speaker 1>last ten years, I signed a major contract with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends to start a business. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a general partnership, and I had a majority of ownership,

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<v Speaker 1>and my two partners investors had They owned forty percent

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<v Speaker 1>and I owned sixty percent. And there was different kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of shares. I had essentially common shares, and they had

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<v Speaker 1>preferred shares. And it is what it sounds like. Their

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<v Speaker 1>shares were preferred at a preferred position and a preferred

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<v Speaker 1>in rights right than my shares, my common shares were

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<v Speaker 1>as it sounds common and like I didn't have common

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<v Speaker 1>sense to pay attention to this. It turned out just fine,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, there were great guys. But I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed because I owned sixty percent of the company

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<v Speaker 1>that that just meant I had a majority vote, a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of view, I'd run in the way I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>want to. And I was naive because these were the

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<v Speaker 1>money guys, and they knew what the heck they were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. I was a thousand there, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires at least one hundred millionaires. And well I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand aire, but you get the point. I was

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<v Speaker 1>outmatched on the finance understanding side of this equation. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys were geniuses and in what they do. And even

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<v Speaker 1>though I own a majority, their attorney explained to me

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<v Speaker 1>one day when I was pushing a narrative, pushing what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do, John, you don't you own a

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the ownership, but they control a majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the company through their preferred shares. I'm gonna go off

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<v Speaker 1>with a tangent here just time. I tell you. There

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<v Speaker 1>are things like there's poison pills you can put in

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<v Speaker 1>a stock agreement. Like I believe Mark Zuckerberg, who I

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<v Speaker 1>know at Facebook now Meta, has a poison pill that

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much the stock gets deluded, he controls

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<v Speaker 1>the company. There are there are founders who put these

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<v Speaker 1>poison pills in there. I don't know that to be

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<v Speaker 1>the absl case from that met up, but I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure it is these contracts where they found a company

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<v Speaker 1>and they will structure it through the goverferance agreement and

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<v Speaker 1>the rights where their their shock their stock has outside

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<v Speaker 1>weight to other shareholders irrespective of how much they get diluted.

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<v Speaker 1>De looted means uh as deluted is the opposite of concentrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Concentrated a strong and rigid and intense, and diluted is

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<v Speaker 1>what it sounds like. You delute a drink at a club.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what that means, right, they gave you some

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<v Speaker 1>cheap drinks. You dilute your interests, You have less power.

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<v Speaker 1>So so that's an aside. If you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>go into that, put that in comments when you see

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<v Speaker 1>this online. I'm happy to go into greater detail and

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<v Speaker 1>explain what the poison pills and all that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stanf some means means and stands for. But I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get through a lot of content here in a

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<v Speaker 1>very short period of time. So back to the basic

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<v Speaker 1>premise that I had basically synthetic equity at common shares,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had preferred shares with rights and privileges that

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<v Speaker 1>were brilliantly crafted and they didn't do me no wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all there for me to view. I was

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<v Speaker 1>casual about it because I knew them, and although probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have changed much. Actually they but the attorney explained

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<v Speaker 1>to me, because they put up the money, they had

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<v Speaker 1>more rights and they were right, and so I could

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<v Speaker 1>not just do as I like. We ended up working

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<v Speaker 1>it out where I did as I preferred, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had to consult with my partners. I did not have

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<v Speaker 1>the contractual right to do that. They had to give

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<v Speaker 1>me the right to do that, and over time, as

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<v Speaker 1>I proved myself, they loosened the grip on the contractual rights,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the term, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, I was actually running exactly the way

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to. But I honored my agreement with my partners,

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<v Speaker 1>and they left that deal very happy. We tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about negotiations, which is not part of a contract per se.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you leave a slight every good negotiation means

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<v Speaker 1>you leave the negotiation, but everybody in it leaves slightly irritated. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a good negotiation, you leave the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody slightly irritated, slightly annoyed because no one got everything.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted, but you got what you needed. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you some high profile entertainers and athletes who signed

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<v Speaker 1>bad contracts. Some examples. There's a group TLC love their music,

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<v Speaker 1>they sign an unfair deal or some people some people

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<v Speaker 1>might call an unfair deal with the Face Records. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this in particular because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people running around talking about my Jewish brothers and sisters

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<v Speaker 1>and how somehow they've ruined the music business. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why people are picking on Jews. There are

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<v Speaker 1>black people. This is in the Face Records, there's with

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<v Speaker 1>Motown Records. There's a bunch of black people in music.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a bunch of white people in music. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of Asian people in music, a bunch of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in music. I don't know either picking on one group.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just wrong to point out that, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>contract is unethical. No, the contract is a legal contract.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't like it because you don't like the

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<v Speaker 1>terms and how they got better a better negotiation to

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<v Speaker 1>you because they are paying attention to the dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying attention to the music notes. And in this

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<v Speaker 1>one example, it's the face wreck souse. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>like knock that off, Like we need to stop all

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<v Speaker 1>this hater aid and you know, hate his hate. We

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<v Speaker 1>just need to stop it. And we need to stop

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<v Speaker 1>blaming people because they're successful or more successful for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're jealous, and maybe we don't understand. Don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>hate somebody. Try to learn from somebody. Try to understand

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<v Speaker 1>how they've mastered the game, and you can master it too.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to be a great singer, a great dancer

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<v Speaker 1>in this example, and you are a great whatever ball

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<v Speaker 1>player or whatever, and you want to be a better

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<v Speaker 1>business person. Michael Jordan Michael Jordan's Magic Johnson used to

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<v Speaker 1>use his celebrity status to go approach the folks on

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<v Speaker 1>the front row of the basketball games at the Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>and go to lunch with them. These are the people

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<v Speaker 1>who bought the best seats, and he wanted to trade

0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 1>lunch for business knowledge. Really smart. What is Magic Johnson today?

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<v Speaker 1>Not just an NBA great, He's a great businessman. So

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<v Speaker 1>TLC signed a bad deal with the Face Records. They

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a bad deal. I wasn't in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the Face Record thought it was a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal when they wrote it, and I'm sure they'd say

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<v Speaker 1>whether people didn't pay attention, just like everybody else would

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<v Speaker 1>say people didn't pay attention. And there by the way

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<v Speaker 1>in a negotiation, at the table is the bartering place,

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<v Speaker 1>and one person is trying to extract as much from

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<v Speaker 1>you as they can while paying you the least, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's their job. The other person's job is to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the least value and while getting the most money.

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<v Speaker 1>So both folks in that example are getting what are

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<v Speaker 1>doing their job. One person's trying to extract while giving

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<v Speaker 1>you the least, the other person is trying to give

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<v Speaker 1>you the lease while getting the most, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>caught a negotiation. Hello, So capitalism is a glad eator sport.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, don't take it personal, which is business.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get mad, just get smart. And so with it's

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>a face deal. They paid them only a fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>album sales. So the lesson here is always understand your

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<v Speaker 1>royalty structure and seek legal advice before signing a contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be cheap, and don't think that contracts don't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Contracts absolutely do matter, and I don't want you finding

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<v Speaker 1>out the wrong way that they matter the most. In

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<v Speaker 1>these situations is against the music business. In this example,

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<v Speaker 1>Meghani Stallion filed a legal battle with fifteen oh one

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment over a restrictive contract. The lesson here is a

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<v Speaker 1>new artist should get an independent legal counsel, not just

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<v Speaker 1>a label provided lawyer. So if the lawyer that given

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<v Speaker 1>you a from the label, they probably have an interest.

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<v Speaker 1>Or as my friend President Bill Clinton would say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get somebody to agree to the truth when

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<v Speaker 1>the lie is paying their paycheck. Hello, I'll repeat that again.

0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>President Bill Clinton said, it's hard to get someone to

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<v Speaker 1>agree to the truth when the lie is paying their paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>Or as I would say, to rationalize is to tell

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<v Speaker 1>rational lies. So if you are getting paid by the

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<v Speaker 1>record label to be an attorney, guess whose interests you're

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<v Speaker 1>most interested in. It's not the artist that you're in

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the room with, it's the person that you're aligned with. Said,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a deal recently where and I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on. I did deal recently where I had contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>I let my partner draw up contracts, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of two against one, so to speak, And I

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 1>knew that the contract would be imbalanced, as I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>But I made sure that things that were most important

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<v Speaker 1>to me were handled, and I let them get away

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<v Speaker 1>with the things that were less important than me, because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to win the battle and lose the

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<v Speaker 1>war or the spirit of that partnership and where we

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.719
<v Speaker 1>were going next was more important to me than fighting

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>over the details that they were fighting over. That's another

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<v Speaker 1>conversation as a more sophisticated situation. In order to play

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 1>that game, you know the game you're playing, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be chess and not. You know, some people are

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 1>paying chess, some people are changing checkers. I'm playing chess.

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>Lo Wayne. He struggled with the cash money records deal

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 1>for years. The lesson was always have an exit clause

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and dispute resolution terms in your contract. Is easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get married, it's hard to get divorced. Scottie Pippen, the

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>NBA signed a long term deal with the Chicago Bulls

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>that severely undervalued him. In his opinion, I sort of agree,

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>but again, it's just business. That is not to Chicago

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Bulls job to pay you top dollar, pay you every

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<v Speaker 1>dollar they can pay you. Their job is not to

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<v Speaker 1>give you, to empty their pockets to give you everything

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>they got their job is to give you at least

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<v Speaker 1>that they can that they can get away with getting

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you with having without having you be unhappy. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>the lesson here? Consider how contracts evolve over time and

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>inflation is a factor in a long term contract, and

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>consider all that before locking in long term deal terms.

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>You can do contracts and phases or have them have

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>renewal clauses and have you know, sort of check in

0:30:21.840 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>points in a contract. So the best practice for smart

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 1>smart contract and get it in writing. A handshake is

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>not a contract. Hello, Hello, Hello. People are like, I

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't remember that you remember that? I don't know. I

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know if people get get amnesia when they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like a situation, right, uh, and read before you sign

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<v Speaker 1>what is the fine print? And if you don't like

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>fine print, get somebody with glasses who's an accountant and

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.479
<v Speaker 1>a lawyer who love fine print. By the way, you're

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>a counting your lawyers should not be at the club

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with your people. If folks, if your if

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>your professionals are hanging out with you the club, then

0:30:55.720 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>may be the wrong people you want, boring people. You

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>want people who don't want to go to bed at

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock two, theoclock at night. Right, you know, if

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>you want whose evening starts at one in the morning

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about the attorney, they are lawyer, they your account

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<v Speaker 1>That is just not my suggestion. You want left brain

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>analytical people who are absolutely is obsessed with accounting and

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>numbers and all that stuff, as you're assessed with music

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<v Speaker 1>and notes and all that stuff if you're in the

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>music business, so the fine print is really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>They can get you on the fine print, and somebody

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>can get you on the interpretation of five words that

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>look common sense to you. But an attorney will understand

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh that gets you know that needs to be

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:34.719
<v Speaker 1>uh that that needs to be treated in a very

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>special way. But only attorney would know that. Hire an

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>attorney when it when it when it's serious. Don't do

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>a d I Y contract when the stakes are high.

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.480
<v Speaker 1>In other words, don't do a do it yourself contract

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<v Speaker 1>when the stakes are right. I mean going to YouTube

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about I'm a lawyer now, because I watched the

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 1>YouTube video, you get clocked. So common mistakes that can

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>cost you not defining clear payment terms, signing something without

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>understanding all the terms. This is a common mistake. In

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the music business, not having a contract at all. Verbal

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>agreements equal risk. Okay, how to play the game and win, right,

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And let's now talk about the tax system. Uh, tax

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>laws favorite business owners and investors over employees. Uh, it's

0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>just the way a t I is. You know, tax

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>business owners like me and investors have lobbyists, right, and

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 1>they spent a lifetime in Washington, d C. Trying to

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>get terms that benefit them. So don't don't get mad.

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>The game is, understand it. But also business owners and

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>investors take more risks and employees. So there you go,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and an employee as a W two relationship, so the

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<v Speaker 1>chances in sort of taxes are sort of pre defined

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>in that situation. So you know, as long as you

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>understand it, you should be. Okay, it's more dynamic for

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>business owner entrepreneur like me, but understanding your tax strategy

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>can help you legally and contractually more than more than

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you can truly appreciate. For instance, Warren Buffett said famously

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<v Speaker 1>a secretary, he pays more taxes than I do. People

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>got all upset about that. Well, it's true because Warren

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Buffett is not a W two employee, meaning he doesn't

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>take a salary, or he doesn't a paycheck. He doesn't.

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>If you don't have a paycheck every week, every month,

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>then you don't have taxes taken out of it. His

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<v Speaker 1>secretary was a W two employee. Warren Buffett was compensated

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>through capital gains when he sold stock, when he sold

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a business, when he liquidated a business, then he got

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>capital gains, a capital gains tax obligation. And the taxes

0:33:55.760 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>from W two's are thirty thirty five, fty percent sometimes

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>depending on federal state taxes and so forth. But capital

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gains taxes is twenty one percent, twenty percent, depending on

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>where you are. Hello, So I love capital gains, and

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens when you take more risk and you

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you sell some real estate, or you sell a business,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>or you sell some stock. That's a capital gain, a

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>gain on your capital. It's a different tax structure. So

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>one Buffet paid out crapload of taxes. He doesn't pay

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>any income tax. He paid capital gains tax. He didn't

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 1>pay traditional income tax. Most of the taxes actually paid

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this country paid by the wealthy. So anybody no need

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 1>to hate it on the wealthy. Y'all not paying your taxes.

0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>They do. We I guess we do pay the majority

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of taxes in this country, so feel good about that.

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just a different kind of taxes. And maybe I'll come

0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to do another if you want me to do another

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>video on this, sorry, another podcast on this, to go deeper,

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>I will be happy to just just just tell me

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>in the comments when you see this on a video

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>roll or on a social media clip, and I'll be

0:34:57.960 --> 0:34:59.839
<v Speaker 1>happy to take note of that. And let me tell

0:34:59.880 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>you some high profile entertainers and athletes who struggled with taxes.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Wesley Snipes, actor, Sir time federal time for tax evasion. Yes,

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>went to prison, the movie star. What's the lesson? Always

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>file your taxes, even if you dispute the amount. A

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine called me recently because he was about

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to have his taxes, his income tax, of his income,

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>his paycheck taken from him because the federal government had

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>reached in his bank was an employer and garnished it.

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>And he was days away from having a paycheck go

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>from you know, twenty thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars whatever,

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>it was down to literally one hundred and fifty bucks,

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he told me. And I was able to make a

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>phone call get him connected with some folks and he

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 1>was able to make payment arrangements with the irs. And

0:35:58.800 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't want you to go to prison,

0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and they don't want to take your money, want their money.

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>So they made a painting arrangements and it was It

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 1>was a fair changes, no robbery. Both people walked away

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>slightly irritated but happy. Some entertainers, some creative people, don't

0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>think that taxes are legal or whatever. Look, don't don't

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>make that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't start

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 1>fighting with the federal government after you've made a lot

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.959
<v Speaker 1>of money talking about the federal government's not a real

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>tax in structure is not real. No, no, no, that's

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 1>a philosophical argument. You will lose it. Right again. I'd

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>rather owe money to my mother, god, rest of a

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>soul than the federal government. Pay your taxes, file your returns.

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 1>If you wanted to fight a legal battle or philosophical battle,

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 1>separate from that. Knock yourself out. But not after you

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>owe some money, after you made some money, and then

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you decide you don't want to pay it. That is

0:36:47.560 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a bad move. Lauryn Hill, the singer when to prison

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>for unpaid taxes. Did you hear me? Hello? Hello? Yeah?

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Hill and Wesley Snipes went to prison for unpaid taxes. Lesson,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>never ignore irs notices, work out a payment plan if needed,

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.880
<v Speaker 1>give them the respect of a partner of a general partner.

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Alan Irison NBA star blew through millions was saved by

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>a trust fund. Lesson set aside money for taxes and

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>long term security. Fat Joe the Rapper face jail time

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>for failing to pay millions in taxes. Lesson, have a

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 1>trusted CPA or tax attorney to keep you compliant. I

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.680
<v Speaker 1>have a tax pro here in Atlanta, one of the

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>big four firms here in Atlanta, Big six firms Aprio.

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I use them. I think they're fantastic. And I have

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a I have a let me see. I have a accountant,

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a bookkeeper. I have a controller, I have

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>a chief financial officer. I have an auditor, and I'm

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>a chief accountant outside of countant, and then I have

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>an auditor. All have different functions. I made sure that

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I take that. I make sure to make that money straight.

0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 1>I was born at night, not last night. You never

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>kid me, catch me slipping, and if I can at

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>all afford it. Avoid it. When you pay your taxes,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, you pay attention to public services. I

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.560
<v Speaker 1>was I paid thousand dollars in the state taxes one

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>year in Georgia. Yes, the total tax bill was much

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>much larger. And I drove down the street and ran

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>over a pothole. Do you know I would like went

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.239
<v Speaker 1>back home and wrote a letter to the mayor and

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the city council people, and the county officials and the

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and the state transportation officials and the governor's office. Hey,

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you need to pay you need to fix these potholes

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>like a meet Like I just paid eight hundred thousand

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of dollars in the state taxes. This is I'm literally

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>that's literally my business. Right. You know they paid it paid?

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you know they they filled that pothole and quick.

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm a taxpayer. And conversely, nobody washes rental cars. Hello,

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.920
<v Speaker 1>if you drive a rental car around, you don't own it,

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:21.800
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? You drive it until the wheels

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.880
<v Speaker 1>fall off? The dirty is all all get up in

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>two weeks, take it back. It's filthy. You can be

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>a saint and you don't wash the car. It's a

0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>very rare person that washes a rental car because you

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 1>don't own it. There is something that happens when you

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>when you own something, when you own a house, it's

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing that when you rent the house, the lawn is

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 1>up to your eyeballs. When you own the house, well,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the lawn gets cut somehow. DMX the wrapper he owed

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>millions to the irs. Lesson taxes are not optional. If

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you earn money, plan for what you owe. Understanding the

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>basics income tax versus capital gains tax. So you know,

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>as I've said, investments are taxed differently and you're taking

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 1>more risk. It's a more complicated explanation, but essentially capital

0:40:14.920 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 1>gains is a better deal if you ever get to

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a point where but you're again you're taking risk and

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>lose everything. There's no guarantee with an investment that's going

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to pay off, and you're not getting a regular paycheck.

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>So the American capitalist system rewards you a little bit

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 1>by charging you a reduced tax amount, but it's still

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money if you're making If you're talking

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.720
<v Speaker 1>about over a million dollars somebot ten fifty million dollars,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty percent a lot of money. Right write offs and deductions,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the government wants businesses to reinvest, so use that to

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 1>your advantage. If you have a business expense, a proper

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>legitimate business expense, you can write it off. Check with

0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>your tax prone what those look like. Talk to my

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Hope financial coaches. They'll walk you through that. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to just take a moment here just talk about earned

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 1>income tax credit. If you have a tax pro or

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>if you don't, I want you to look into the

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>earned income tax credit. I've said this a million times.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say it again. Now, you make less than sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand dollars a year, the government owes you a

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>check for working. It's not a handout, it's it's a

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:24.240
<v Speaker 1>bonus for working. You get a bonus on Wall Street

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>from your employer. At the end of the day after

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>a good year, you get a bonus from the government.

0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>This is bipartisan legislation. This has been around since the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it's the Earned Income Tax Credit is EIITC

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty billion dollars goes back to the federal government every year.

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Because we don't ask for the money that we're owed.

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't jump with some free games. Jay Z would say,

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm giving you a million dollars with a game of

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 1>nine to ninety nine. This is no ninety nine because

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you're not even paying for the subscription of this podcast. So,

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're making less than sixty five thousand dollars a

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>year and you earn money legitimately, the government owes you

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>a check. Now I'm gonna do it, sweet spot. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>you make thirty eight thousand dollars a year, you have

0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>three children, the government owes you approximately sixty five hundred

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>seventy five hundred dollars, give or take. And if you

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 1>never file or eiitc if you have no idea what

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about, congratulations is retroactive for three years. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you make thirty eight thousand dollars a year and

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you get a check for three times seven thousand dollars

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>just doing average, that's about, give or take twenty thousand dollars.

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:29.839
<v Speaker 1>That's more money than you'd ever see at one time

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>in your life. Pay off your car note, pay down

0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>your credit cards and pay them off. Put it down,

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 1>payment for your a house, start a business, start an

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 1>investment account. There's no restrictions on the money. It's your money,

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's not a tax break. It's a check. Like

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you get it wired to you when you modify or

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>file your tax returns. Say and this is transformational in

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>your life. So check with my people to obreas shop

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>about the earned income tax credit. Back to understanding the

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 1>basics LLC's, S corps and ten ninety nine income. And

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:07.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I talk about corporate entities on my

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>season one podcast for a Money and for Money and Wealth,

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>So go back and watch or listen to that podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Structuring yourself properly to minimize taxes is tied to which

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 1>kind of entity you you select, So limited reliability corporations

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and S corpor C corp, all these different corporations, and

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 1>ten ninety nine income, which is contract income versus W

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 1>two income which is salary UH employee former employee income.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going too fast, which covering a lot of time,

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and I've always hid in nine ninety nine. I will

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<v Speaker 1>try to wrap like Jay z in one in one podcast,

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>try and get a lot in in an hour. I

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:47.759
<v Speaker 1>said it's gonna be forty five minutes, but this is

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>going to go over a little bit so I can

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>cover everything. Keep your records. This is top top tax

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 1>strategies for individuals and entrepreneurs. Keep receipts and track expenses right.

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>This is why I book keeping really matters. Right and

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>understand and understanding proper terms. My people at Operation can

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>help you with this. I remember it was a farmer

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>drug dealer who came to Operation no starting a restaurant

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and he'd already brought up the restaurant equipment, at least

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>a building, all this stuff, and he came to us

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>for some business coaching and I ran into him and

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, can you show me a balance sheet?

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And he said, what's that? He was a smart guy,

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but no one ever taught him the basics about a

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 1>balance sheet and income statement and network statement. A budget.

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Everybody needs a budget. I have a budget. Everybody needs

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a budget. That's a different podcast for another day. I'll

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>go through budgets for you, by the way. Tell me

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the topics that you want me to break down, and

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I'll be happy to break those down too. Keep receipts

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 1>and track expenses. Use business deductions wisely what the I

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>use basically get only what the IRS allows. If you overreach,

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>if you play games, the IRS is going to slap

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you upside the head and it won't be nice and

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>they'll hit you with penalties, so just use proper business deductions.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you have an office in your house,

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>as I do, you can deduct expenses tied to that office. Hello,

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 1>but talk to your tax pro about that. You can't

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 1>deduct the whole house, just the part that you use

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>for business. Plan for tax payments. Avoid the April surprise

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:25.680
<v Speaker 1>by setting aside money quarterly or at least have a

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:27.400
<v Speaker 1>plan for how you're going to pay these taxes or

0:45:27.800 --> 0:45:30.200
<v Speaker 1>work out a payment arrangement. But just don't ignore it.

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Common tax pitfalls and how to avoid them. Not filing

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 1>taxes on time is just the Again, that was my mistake,

0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and penalties add up fast. I mean, the IRS charge

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 1>is an incredible extruciating amount of interest because they don't

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>want you owing them money. They want you to get

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 1>out of debt from them as soon as you can,

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 1>as fast as you can, and they don't care who you are.

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 1>One of my famous friends, the womantioned his name, but

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he called me and he had this problem with the IRS,

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.319
<v Speaker 1>and he was a household name, and I called for

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 1>him and got him connected with people, and it took

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 1>months to get that. Such situation. There was this lady

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<v Speaker 1>who made you know, I don't know, sixty two thousand

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars a year, who was completely in control of this

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 1>guy's life, and she didn't care for his confidence, and

0:46:16.840 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 1>she made it extraordinarily painful for him. But she was

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>in charge of everything. We finally got her moved out

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>of the way after months and months and months. But

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.720
<v Speaker 1>this guy couldn't sleep for a while because she basically

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 1>could have She could have ruined his whole life. And so,

0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, just be just do it right the first time.

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>So following time, mixing personal and business expenses a no no.

0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Get separate accounts, separate accounts for business, separate accounts for

0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>personal in my opinion, Ignoring tax planning another no no.

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<v Speaker 1>The wealthy used tax strategies before tax season, not after,

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>including me. I'm working on my tax strategy all year round.

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Here's some takeaways. Contracts are about protection. Never enter a

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:06.160
<v Speaker 1>business or a financial agreement without a contract. Someone in

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.280
<v Speaker 1>my life, a loved one, wanted to borrow some money

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>recently for a business. People in my family not I

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>had to come to John Brian sideways asking for money.

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I covered this with Cam again, Cam Newton when I

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>was with him on my podcast with him. We had

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun together talking about family coming to

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>us asking us crazy stuff. People don't come to me

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.240
<v Speaker 1>asking crazy stuff anymore because they know I'm going to respond,

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>so they're prepared. So somebody had a business idea and

0:47:33.440 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they knew the revenue was coming in, so they knew

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>they could say, Hey, this money, this check's coming in,

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just delayed. Can I get can you basically factor this?

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Can you, as they call it, factory, can you bridge

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:45.960
<v Speaker 1>this for me? So I gave them a small loan

0:47:46.880 --> 0:47:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were going to pay me back in thirty days.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:55.640
<v Speaker 1>They signed a contract. It was a simple contract, one pager,

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>but they signed it. And I know these people very well.

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I love them, but this is business and they needed

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.160
<v Speaker 1>a thirty day extension, which I gave them. But I

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>got my money. Hello, people get amnesia, particularly with it.

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You know them. They're really nice when they want to

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 1>borrow the money. When you want to back Wait, what

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you sweating me about that for? Because it's my money

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>and you wanted you weren't pay You know, an attitude

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:20.240
<v Speaker 1>when you borrow the money from me? Right, People were funny. Okay.

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Taxes are part of the game. People learn how to

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 1>play it legally and to maximize your wealth. Be proactive,

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 1>not reactive. By the way, I had one investment that

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't paying off for me the way I thought, and

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I was sort of upset about that until those losses

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 1>from that investment help to defer a tax obligation. Turn

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a tax obligation to a tax refund. So even though

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I lost money on the business on revenue. There's two

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.880
<v Speaker 1>ways to make money, make more or spend less. And again,

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 1>once you gain some wealth, gain some traction, you're going

0:48:59.920 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to have a tax obligation every year, and legitimate business

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>expenses and legitimate tax write offs all qualify you have

0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>a commercial real estate building. This doesn't work for your

0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:12.640
<v Speaker 1>primary residence or commercial real estate as an example, or

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 1>income producing real estate. You can have depreciation, which is

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a tax write off a tax benefit. Anyway, I want

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.240
<v Speaker 1>you to learn all this stuff, but step by step,

0:49:24.520 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>be proactive, not react. Of a smart contract and tax

0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>strategies can save you money stress and legal trouble and

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>jail time. Wealth is not just about making money, it's

0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>about keeping it and protecting it. Take a step today,

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:43.960
<v Speaker 1>review a contract you've got, talk to a tax professional

0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that you know, find a pro, find build a team

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 1>right and set up a financial system for your future

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:54.160
<v Speaker 1>like get quick Quicken or quick books, or get an

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Excel spreadsheet or money. I think I think Apple calls

0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it mac iOS calls there is money or numbers. I

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>think they call it numbers, which is the and Mac

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft calls and Excel, use a use a spreadsheet,

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:10.920
<v Speaker 1>or use a financial app. There's no excuse in this

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>technology world not to get it right right. And I

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:18.319
<v Speaker 1>want you to follow me on money and wealth and

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 1>tell your friends to do the same, and get the

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.280
<v Speaker 1>book Financial Literacy for All and tell go to Operation

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Hope and tell them I sent you. They'll give you

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>because I sent you, they'll give you a one thousand

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>dollars financial coaching and scholarship and Operation Hope good for

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>a year to help you get through your credit score

0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and get through your initial budgeting and review where you

0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>are on all your books and your records, and talk

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to them about textas and talk to them about your contracting.

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>And then and then from there you might graduate to

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:52.800
<v Speaker 1>our business courses and in a more detailed financial coaching

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:54.920
<v Speaker 1>opportunity through Operational But we're going to give you this

0:50:55.000 --> 0:50:58.839
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars scholarship on me for coaching and counseling. That's

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the value of it. It be does you listen to money

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and wealth and you're part of the silver rights movement?

0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>From civil rights to silver rights, from the streets to

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>cutting deals in the suites, from protesting in the suites

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to getting a seat in the business suite. This is

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the new movement. This is real world transformational change. Because

0:51:25.520 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 1>you get in game, you are gaining your financial literacy,

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>which I believe is a silver rights issue of degeneration.

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Actually think it's a civil rights issue of degeneration. I

0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:38.200
<v Speaker 1>think that AI literacy is a silver rights issue degeneration.

0:51:38.680 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 1>And I want you to follow all of Operation Hope's work,

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:43.520
<v Speaker 1>follow all of John O'Briant my work on all accounts.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Get the book Financial Literacy for All. Tell your friends

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to listen to this podcast, have a meeting with your friends,

0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:56.719
<v Speaker 1>meeting with your family. On contract. By the way, I

0:51:56.719 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>hate to break this to you, but marriage is a

0:51:58.280 --> 0:52:00.520
<v Speaker 1>form of a contract. You don't think it's a contract.

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 1>Try to get divorced and see what happens. Right in

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:08.280
<v Speaker 1>California's a community property state, which is different from Georgia.

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a fairness state. And you know, you got to

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>know all this stuff because it affects you. Like seriously,

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Cam Newton and he he was like,

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:18.600
<v Speaker 1>do you realize that when you're working for the NFL,

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you're an employee. You're a W two employee, So you

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>can't be signing though talking about I want to just

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.800
<v Speaker 1>pay me and pay my ALLC and I'll pay my

0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:27.719
<v Speaker 1>own taxes. You are an employee. They're giving you health

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>and benefits and they're taking the entrepreneurial risk, and you

0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>pay taxes per game, per city, per state if you're

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Now get that one, all right? This

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is dropping the mic with John O'Brien. I hope you

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 1>love the light. I hope you saw the light. I

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.359
<v Speaker 1>hope that you get some light and don't think light

0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and think lightly of this and end up having to

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 1>stare down the desk of an IRS agent who is

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>not so friendly. I want you, or a legal contractor

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a court because you didn't pay attention to a contract

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 1>you sign, or arguing with somebody over who got you

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<v Speaker 1>good because they've paid attention to a contract and you didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And again don't be emotional about this. This is just business.

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<v Speaker 1>Capitalism is a gladiator sport, and you can master it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been doing so much with so little for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>You can almost do anything with nothing. God made you

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed. He made you great. Now go find your greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>This is John O'Brien, and this has been money and Wealth.

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<v Speaker 1>Money and Wealth with John O'Brien is a production of

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