1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome to a Monday edition of 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio after 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: well an eventful weekend to say the least. I'm your host, 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: John Harris, football analyst, Sideline reporter. Mark's gonna join me 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: in just a little bit because we're gonna kick off 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: this show with one of the most important men actually 7 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of us kicking off a domino effect. 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: That was general manager at Nick Kisserio making the trade 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: off to Shaun Watson to the Cleveland Browns getting back 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: in return three first rounders, the third to fourth. We 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: had a lot to discuss, and we talked with him 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Saturday right after his press conference down there, and it 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: did so we had a good opportunity. We know Seawan 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: and Seth they're gonna have Nick on at seven thirty tomorrow, 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: so make sure you're tune in to that. Make sure 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: you tune in now to hear Nick Kisserio on with 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Mark and myself. It's Texans Radio, Mark Fountorman, John Harris 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: with General Manager Nick Kisserio. Nick, right to see you. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: It's good to be here. Special Saturday edition, Special weekend 20 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: edition of Texans Radio. Nick, your thoughts on being able 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: to move on after dealing with the Watson situation for 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: over a year, finally being able to make this trade 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: and get the Texans into twenty twenty two and beyond. Yeah, really, 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the big thing, it's about moving forward, and it's about 25 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: clarity for everybody. Think everybody at least has an understanding 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: of where we are. So it's an opportunity for the franchise, 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: an opportunity really for everybody involved. They just kind of 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: moved forward. So there's a lot of work ahead of us. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: So we're kind of in the midst of the team 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: building process for the twenty two seasons, so that's always 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: an exciting part of what we're trying to do organizationally. 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: So probably wrap up here free agency, you know, over 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: the next call it week or so, and then once 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: we kind of transition in April, then it'll be very 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: draft focused and draft centric, which will be kind of 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: the next step of the whole team building process. I'm 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: so disappointed my partner Mark, he buried the lead. How's 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: your bracket? We need to know how your bracket is 39 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: first of all. Honestly, I have no idea. Who's even 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: playing in the tournament. We figured that was probably better. 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: I think speed Kentucky. That's about the extent of it. 42 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: St Peter. That's a good thing. You don't know, Nick, Yes, 43 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: you would have been like, oh my gosh, Saint Peter's 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: blew my brack. We certainly would have been a little 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: bit worried about that. Nick. In all seriousness, you have 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the trade going on, you have to start of the 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: new league year. Did you have like three different phones 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: that you were like, Okay, this one's for the watching trade, 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: this one is for new league ear How do you 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: kind of juggle all those balls in the air at 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: the same time, Nick, Oh, it's an interesting point. You 52 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: really have to try to balance everything off and just 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: allocate the appropriate time as needed. So there's going to 54 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: be certain periods of time during the course of the 55 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: day you might have to allocate a little more to 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: one versus the other. But once the new league years started, 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: once for agencies started, we're trying to add players to 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: our team, and ultimately that's my responsibility. So that communication, 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: that dialogue with the agents, you know, in terms of 60 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: negotiating the contracts, like that's ultimately going to fall on 61 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: my shoulder, So there's time sensitivity to some of those 62 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: things that's involved, So try to balance everything off. Our 63 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: pro staff at a great job of at least kind 64 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: of providing the information, and there was a lot of 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: dialogue back and forth with our coaching staff, and we 66 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: had done some work prior to in terms of creating 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: sort of maybe buckets or pockets of players. Okay, if 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: we can't get this player, here's another option. What happens 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: if this player becomes available. So you really have to 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: treat it business as usual and just kind of go 71 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: about your day and not get too bogged down with 72 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: one particular thing understanding that you know, there's certain relevance 73 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: and importance to maybe the nature of the transaction, but 74 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of don't lose sight of sort of the day 75 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: to day and just the work that needs to get done. Nick, 76 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: you were dealing with a situation that was unprecedented in 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: the history of this league. So being able to deal 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: with the different teams involved with the trade that you 79 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: ultimately made with the Browns, what can you tell us 80 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: about what that was like, having to filter all that 81 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: through and ultimately make a deal. Yeah, it's a lot 82 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: to get organized, but Ultimately, you just you have to 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: be very thoughtful. You want to stay patient, can't get 84 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: too high, can't get too low, can't set unreasonable expectations. 85 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: You have to be realistic about what may or may 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: not happen. And you really have to be prepared for 87 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: just about every scenario because you're never sure how it's 88 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: going to go until the end. So prepare, plan, and 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: then be ready to act at the appropriate time if 90 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity to do so. So, you know, I'd 91 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: say that's probably been not to oversimplify it, but really 92 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: the mindset and the overall philosophy that I've taken that 93 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: we've kind of taken organizationally the whole way through. Nick, 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: this might seem like an obvious question, but it was 95 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: rumored that the big part was the three first rounders. 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Why was that something that was that important, Like that's 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: got to be the baseline of where to start. Was 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: that really what it was, is like that's the baseline 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: to just start the discussion, to get it somewhere, because 100 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: I mean, was there any sort of precedent you sort 101 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: of had to go on in a trade of this magnitude, Oh, 102 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: there's never a precedent. You try to establish what you 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: think is appropriate value for whatever an asset may be. 104 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: So it's subject to probably a lot of opinions. Everybody 105 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: probably has a lot of different opinions and ideas on 106 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: something like that, but you just try to take the 107 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: information and try to look at what maybe has happened 108 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: in the past previously and just try to set set 109 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: a baseline of Okay, if it's not at least at 110 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: this level, it's probably going to be hard for us 111 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: to entertain that type of discussion. So there's no hard 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: and fast rule, but I would say that was certainly 113 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: something that was important from the outset. You're a little 114 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: over a month away from the draft and you have 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: two picks in the top thirteen. What does that do 116 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans right off the bat? It really 117 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: gives us an opportunity to hopefully just add two good 118 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: football players to our team, and I think that's really 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: should be the realistic goal and expectation. I think sometimes 120 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: there's an expectation, Okay, this certain player at this certain pick, 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: he has to be X. It doesn't always go that way, 122 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: but just try to find the right players that we 123 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: have a conviction for an affinity for that. We think 124 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: when they walk in our building, they're going to embody 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: the things that we want a Houston Texan too embody. 126 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: So the goal is to try to get good football players, 127 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: good people that are going to embrace what we're doing, 128 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: that are going to embrace our work environment, that are 129 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: gonna embrace our coaching staff, They're gonna embrace the city 130 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: and be part of the fabric of what we're trying 131 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: to do and establish. You have ten picks going in 132 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: right now, and we say for now because last year 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what we went in with. You came 134 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: out of there with five, moved around, did some different things. 135 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I think we had eight and we ended up with five, 136 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: just kind of positioning. Is there a point now at ten? 137 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean you also now with first rounders, you can 138 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: move down, you can add more. Is there a point 139 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: where there's almost too many draft picks? I mean not 140 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: in our world. We love it, but is there a 141 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: point where you make twelve to fifteen draft selections you're like, well, 142 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: maybe that's not where we want to be. Really, you 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: have to look at it. What does it do for 144 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: your football team or what are the what's the alternative? 145 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: So look at your team, make an assessment. You can 146 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: only have ninety players on your roster at one time, 147 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: so the more players that you pick, it's either a 148 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: potentially could affect some players currently on the team or 149 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: it could affect your ability after the draft to maybe 150 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: bring in some players as undrafted free agents. So there's 151 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: no hard and fast rule. A lot of it is 152 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: supplying demand driven, and trades are really, i would say, 153 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: when you get to the draft, or very player driven. 154 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: They're very player specific. Said team sees a player that 155 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: they really like, Okay, we want to move up for 156 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: that player. Okay, in order to get to that point. 157 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: And here's the word of the cost. Okay, said team, 158 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: are you willing to do that or not? If not, 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: if you're moving on from that player, if we move 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: on ten slots, okay, there's not possibility you're gonna lose 161 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: eight to ten players that you maybe have a certain 162 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: grade that you would want to have on your team. 163 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: So there's a cost benefit analysis that has to take 164 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: place in real time. So you just want to make 165 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: sure you make an astute assessment. The right assessments you 166 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: can make a good decision. When do you start playing 167 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: around with trade possibilities. Not that you would automatically, but 168 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: I would imagine some scenarios are going to come up 169 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: during the draft or maybe before it, where you could 170 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: make some moves. When do you start playing around with 171 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: that mentally on your board. Yeah, it's a good question, probably, 172 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, a week or two before. You want to 173 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: be prepared because when you're in the top ten of 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the draft, the cost of that trade is pretty significance. 175 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: You just want to make sure if a team makes 176 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: an offer, it's commensurate with what actually the trade should entail. 177 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: So you go through different scenarios. Okay, said team is 178 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: picking here. In order for them to move here, here's 179 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: what it would cost. So, and we have a model, 180 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: or we have a tool in our database where you 181 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: could sort of simulate or go through different scenarios. You 182 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: can look at them and say, Okay, if this team 183 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: is at twelve, in order for them to get from 184 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: twelve to three, here's what it would cost. Oh, you 185 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 1: know what, they don't have enough. Okay, let's so may 186 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: even factor that in. So there's a little bit of 187 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: that you can do ahead of time, and you just 188 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: want to be prepared that if a player, if a 189 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: team does want to go from call at six to 190 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: three or what's that cost? And Okay, do we want 191 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: to make that trade? Does it make sense or does 192 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: it not? So you'll play around with it eventually, Mark, 193 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: Probably now is not the time, but eventually, at some 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: point you'll you'll go through a little bit of that exercise. Wait, 195 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: should I throw out my Jimmy John some draft valued 196 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: chart or is that still is that still currency in 197 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: the NFL? It's a I would say a baseline. I 198 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: think what has happened with that chart teams have kind 199 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: of updated into their own version, which at times when 200 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: you're doing a trade, the values could be a little 201 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: bit different, so maybe they've adjusted it accordingly from said 202 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: number of years. So we might not be looking at 203 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the same chart. So there could be a market chart 204 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: and then there could be an analytics chart. So you 205 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: try to have to match up the two because they 206 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: might be you know, you might be talking to the 207 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: team about the trade but actually not viewing it through 208 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the same lens. You're talking a different language. But that 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: chart certainly has relevance and has had relevance for a 210 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, it's probably one of the greatest 211 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: things that Jimmy has done. So do you start hitting 212 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the prote circuit? Now you've got all this stuff done. 213 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I know it's not all done, but you get stuff done. 214 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: Can you can it? Now? Get out on the prode circuit. 215 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: I know you travel to games and saw games and such, 216 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: but how much does it help you to get on 217 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: the prode circuiting kind of get hands on if you will, 218 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: with some of the prospects and players especial. Yeah, it 219 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: was actually supposed to go somewhere yesterday, but that kind 220 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: of got rate a little bit. A little bit. I 221 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: would expect this week that our staff has been out 222 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: of The coaching staff was out last week. Love he 223 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: was at Georgia, Love he was at Michigan. We had 224 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: some of our position coaches that were out throughout the 225 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: country as well. Our scouting staff is kind of there 226 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: at whatever Pro Day takes place Monday through Friday. They're there. 227 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: So we're getting a lot of information. So it's a 228 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: good opportunity and it's it's Pro Day isn't about one 229 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: particular player. If a player with Texas A and M 230 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: has said number of prospects, you want to maybe be 231 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: able to look at all the prospects not in particular one, 232 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: or there's a player that works out that comes out 233 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: from somewhere else, so, oh, he's an interesting prospect. Maybe 234 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: he didn't know too much about him. Let's go back 235 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: and take a look at that. So I would say 236 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: this week, that'll take place to the following week of 237 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: the league meetings down in Florida, and then when we 238 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: come back from the league meetings that week of the 239 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: fourth who probably have an opportunity to bring some draft 240 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: prospects into our building as part of the thirty man visits, 241 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: which we actually were able to start those before for agency. 242 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: We did a few visits Monday Tuesday of this previous week. 243 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: So every think kind of works concurrently. So we're kind 244 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: of juggling a lot of different things. But that's the 245 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: beauty of this time the year, and there's a lot 246 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: of fun though that's associated with that. Nick After the 247 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: day's news on Friday, Davis Mills tweeted, let's work or 248 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: something of that equivalent. Yeah tweeter, Yeah, yeah, you're probably 249 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 1: not noticing those things, but the fan base got fired 250 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: up seeing that. Everything tell us what kind of off 251 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: season you're expecting from Davis coming off the conclusion of 252 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: the twenty one campaign and as he gets ready for 253 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: a twenty two and whatever comes ahead. The off season 254 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: is about improvement. Can you improve your skill set as 255 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: a position? Can you improve your overall understanding of what 256 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: we're doing offensively? Can you improve your fundamentals as we 257 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of transition to some new things offensively, there'll be 258 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: a learning curve associated with that, maybe more so for 259 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: some other players relative to Davis, who has some experience 260 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: with some of the vernacular and some of the things 261 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: that we're going to do, you know, with Pep's offense. 262 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: So the off season about is really for every player 263 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: is about improvement. This is a great window, a great 264 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: opportunity entity for you to improve, to get stronger, to 265 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: work on your strength. Maybe you got to work on 266 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: your lower body strength, Maybe you have to work on 267 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: your flexibility, maybe you have to work on your endurance. 268 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to do that. And we're a 269 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: newer team, not a new team, but with a new 270 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: head coach and a new staff, so there's a certain 271 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: newness elements. So there's an opportunity for everybody to either 272 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: a build on what they did last year and continue 273 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: to make strides or be it's their first opportunity to 274 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: be in our building and you want to try to 275 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: do things to make a positive impression. We talked a 276 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: lot about a process in which players aren't even in 277 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: the building yet to draft, talked about a trade buthare 278 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: not even in the building. Let's talk about guys that 279 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: you brought back to the building. Christian Kirkseemillie Collins, Desmond 280 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: King just to name a few, those three guys at 281 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: the bread in there too. Yeah, just those guys coming in. 282 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: What does it mean to bring those guys back? Nick? 283 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: And how valuable was it to see them for the 284 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: full season to kind of have that assessment period to 285 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: be able to bring them back. It's huge, I mean 286 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: experience in our system, specifically defensively. All three of those 287 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: players to fit what we're trying to do defensively. I'd 288 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: say Kirko and JB were probably two of the better 289 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: players on our team last season. So they're very well respected. 290 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: They command a lot of respect, not so much because 291 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: of the words, but because of their actions, because of 292 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: how they work, because of how they play, because how 293 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: they practice. I mean, Kirko went out there in a 294 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: club and played when realistically he shouldn't even been on 295 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: the field, but that just kind of speaks to his 296 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: toughness and who he is as a person, and really 297 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: that's a microcositive of what you want your program to embody. 298 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: So to have those players back in the building to 299 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: build on some of the things they did last year 300 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: certainly huge, not only for them but for the rest 301 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: of the team as well well. On defense, and we 302 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: saw some good things from the defense last year, top 303 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: third of the league and takeaways among them. You added 304 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: We saw the reports throughout the week that you were 305 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: adding players at every position group on the defense to 306 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: strengthen that as well. I didn't realize that. And then 307 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of a process of osmosis, So it's not 308 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: necessarily you're trying to say we're trying to fill every level. 309 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: You're just kind of looking at the players that are 310 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: available and there's an opportunity to add a player that 311 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: makes sense. So it doesn't necessarily guarantee anything, so just 312 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: guarantees them an opportunity, but they're players that we think 313 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: fit what we're trying to do and that we think 314 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: they have a certain level of skill that you know, 315 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: it takes to be successful in our system. Nick, One 316 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: of the things that I've recognized as I've been down 317 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: here in the service level, I've seen more players in 318 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: the building working out than I think I've ever seen here. 319 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: And I think you said the number in your press 320 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: conference like twenty five to thirty. It might be more 321 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: than that. It feels like guys are here constantly, and 322 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen that before. How valuable 323 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: is that not only to them but also to the 324 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: team that they're having that opportunity to work out together 325 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: and do things together. That's pretty cool. I've never seen 326 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: that before happened here. Every element of the team building 327 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: process is important, and really what I think it really 328 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: speaks more than anything is to the sports performance staff 329 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: and Mike Eubanks and his staff and the resources that 330 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: we have available for the players. This is a good 331 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: example of when you're in a facility, when you have 332 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: everything you need in the facility, why go somewhere else 333 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: off site When you have the people that you work 334 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis throughout the course 335 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: of the year that are here to serve you and 336 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: to help you and can enhance your overall I would 337 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: say strength your overall performance. So our players have taken 338 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: advantage of that. A lot of players want to be 339 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: in Houston. There's a lot of players that live in 340 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: Houston even that aren't on the Houston Texans. So the 341 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: fact that those players want to be here speaks to 342 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: the staff. It speaks to those players as well in 343 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: terms of their thought process and mindset about trying to 344 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: get the jump and anticipation about what they're going to 345 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: do here. When the offseason program officially starts April eleven 346 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: and you get to gather a little bit earlier as 347 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: a team because you have a new head coach, but 348 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: it's a head coach that's been here, so that's an 349 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: extra advantage. Really. Sure, any opportunity you have to kind 350 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: of get started and work with your players, you know, 351 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: you want to be smart about and try to use 352 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: it to your advantage. So I think the continuity will 353 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: will certainly help in that respect. So the more players 354 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: we have here, the better for everybody, not just individually 355 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: but collectively as a team. And it's just about making 356 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: incremental strides, incremental progress. Nothing's going to happen in the 357 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: offseason in terms of games played, but we can kind 358 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: of build and develop the fabric of our team, and 359 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: then once we add the younger players that we're going 360 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: to draft, bring them in the building in May, and 361 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: then let's see if we can actually put a team 362 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: in place and then get them ready to go for 363 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: training camp. You mentioned their owners meetings and that got 364 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: me thinking, and I don't really want to cause a fight, 365 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: but I have to get your opinion on this, because 366 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: I know how he feels about it. It gets brought 367 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: up every year we sought into playoffs, what do you 368 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: do with overtime? What would you do with overtime? And 369 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: did you see that proposal by the Titans? I haven't 370 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: studied in Reddit, so I don't want to comment on it. 371 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: So boy, it's like the twenty five thousand dollars question, 372 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: like what's the right thing to do in overtime? And boy, 373 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the league is always looking for 374 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: maybe creative ways to try to equal to playing field, 375 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: whatever that entails, But do you necessarily penalize a team? Again, 376 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what's been proposed or what some of 377 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: those proposals look like. So I think, look, everybody when 378 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: they get overtime feels like they should have an opportunity 379 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to touch the ball in some way, shape or form, 380 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: whether or not that is the right thing or the 381 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: wrong thing. So the competition committee will vote on it, 382 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: and the teams will vote on it, and whatever the 383 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: rule is, they'll implement it, and then we'll have to 384 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: adjust accordingly ourselves. Nick, one more for you, just general 385 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: message to the fans here as we come out of 386 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: this mini era we're in and get ready for the 387 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: rest of the off season in the twenty twenty two campaign. Yeah, 388 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: I think we should all be excited about the opportunity 389 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: in front of us. It's kind of a situation where 390 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: we can kind of reset a little bit, and I 391 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: think everybody has clarity and we appreciate their support. We 392 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: love their support. I know, Lovey you know talked about 393 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: the importance of the fans in our in our building. 394 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: I think even j G said something about it the 395 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: other day he was at the rodeo and just about 396 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: the environment. So our goal is to get as many 397 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: fans in there in the fall, and we have to 398 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: do our part and try to give them something to 399 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: look forward to. So we're excited about the opportunity in 400 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: front of us. We're trying to move the organization forward, 401 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: and we neither help and we need their support and 402 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna do everything in our power to about put 403 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: something to get it if they're proud of all right, 404 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Nick, We appreciate it. Thanks, guys, appreciate it. 405 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: I've dealt a bunch of general managers since I've been 406 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: in this sports media business, starting back in two thousand 407 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: and seven, and Nick is one of the more approachable 408 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: ones ready to share on the radio. I think secretly 409 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: he likes being on the radio with Mark and I. 410 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: He'll never admit that publicly or privately, but he likes 411 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: coming on the radio with us, and it was great 412 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: to catch up with him. And hopefully we'll have Lovey Smith. 413 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: I think sometime this week we'll catch up with Lovey Smith, 414 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: who is well. He's beating the bushes at the Pro 415 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: Days he was at in Michigan. Unfortunately, saw David Ojabo 416 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: from Michigan who tores Achilles. Just a sad scene there 417 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: in Michigan for a potential first rounder and we'll see 418 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: what that does to his draft stock. And if you 419 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: think about Jeffrey Simmons from Tennessee back a couple of 420 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: years Ago, who had torn his acl in January, but 421 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: Titan still made it. The number nineteen overall pick in 422 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: the draft is sub teams. The Texans are the Texans 423 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: gonna make that decision to take Ojabo and see what 424 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: he can do. Cam Akers made it back from an 425 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: Achilles in sixth month on that in six months. In 426 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: that timeframe, A Jabo will be back at the end 427 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: of September nearer about, so we'll see what happens to 428 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: David Jabo. But Lob Smith was up there. He was 429 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: at Georgia. He saw those defensive studs at Georgia, and 430 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: I know who'd been going to a few more this week. 431 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: I believe he'll be joining me tomorrow at A and M. 432 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: Or I should say I'm joining him. I don't know 433 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: how you want to call it, but it's gonna be 434 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: a wet drive up to College Station with all the rain, 435 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: potential flooding, so y'all stay safe, but gonna go up 436 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: to A and M and check out to Marv Leale. 437 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: I'd say a spiller. He was injured at the combine, 438 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: and hopefully he'll be a little bit healthier, he'll be 439 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: able to run and work out of it. Which will 440 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,239 Speaker 1: be fun to see. So we got plenty going on 441 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: at a m prota tomorrow. I will be there. I 442 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: think love Smith will be there. We'll see who else 443 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: joins us. Now one ass respect of the trade that 444 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: came to my attention, and thanks to our guy Drew Dorty. 445 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: He set this to me, And actually think it was 446 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Wilson who first posted it and he set this 447 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, this trade looks a little bit 448 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: better the Shaan Watson trade. So I'm looking at it, 449 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: going okay, what does he mean? And then I'm looking 450 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: at the listing and this came from the NFL. This 451 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: is from the NFL, so this is official. It was 452 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: first reported that the Texans got three first a third 453 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and a fourth in twenty twenty four. 454 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: So they were gonna have three first round picks twenty two, 455 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: twenty three, twenty four, and then they were gonna get 456 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: the third in twenty twenty three, a fourth to twenty 457 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: twenty four. Per the NFL listing, the Texans also are 458 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: getting a fourth round pick from Detroit, I'm sorry, from 459 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland through Detroit. It's the second pick of the fourth 460 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: round pick number one oh seven. So the Texans getting 461 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: two picks this year, number thirteen, one oh seven, they'll 462 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 1: get two next year, a first rounder and a third rounder, 463 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and then a twenty four they'll have a first and 464 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: a fourth. But according to the NFL listing. And this 465 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: is one of those things I always caution people about, 466 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: whatever you hear out there, whatever is reported, wait till 467 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: that sucker becomes official, because here's what happens. You start thinking, oh, 468 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: I heard in the media, then it was gonna that's 469 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: exactly a hear in the media. Here a bunch of 470 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: us on the radio talking about, oh, we wish it 471 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: was this, and wish it was that, and we play 472 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: Madden on the radio. Comes down to it, those discussions 473 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: were never had and certain draft theories were never out there. 474 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: So you wait for the official and then you wait 475 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: for the official today and you find out, oh, they 476 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: actually got a fourth rounder this year as well. Now, look, 477 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say. It's a fourth rounder. 478 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: It's a number two in the fourth round, the second 479 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: overall pick in the fourth round. So it's the second 480 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: pick on Saturday, and not a bad spot to be. 481 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Just kick off Day three. Now you'll be the second 482 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: spot on day three. But I've always liked for eighteen 483 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: to be at the top of the next day because 484 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: you have that opportunity to go back and reset your 485 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: board and look at everything that night when you go 486 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: home Friday night, Hey, we're on deck on Saturday. We 487 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: got our ducks in row. And then at that point, 488 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: maybe you take a few calls, maybe you just had 489 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: at best player available either way, but the Texans also 490 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: taking home. If you will pick number one oh seven, 491 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: that means two four six picks two in each of 492 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: the next three years, a first and fourth this year, 493 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: first and the third next year, first and the fourth 494 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: the following year. So just make sure that we are clear. Now. 495 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: Mark and I had a chance to catch up with 496 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario. Mark and I we'll have a chance to 497 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: catch up about all things going on in the NFL, 498 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: including the AFC. South adds another quarterback as the Dominoes 499 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: continue to fall from the trade that happened last Friday. 500 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that next right here on Texans All Access 501 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Exans All Access, Exans all Access. We're back to the 502 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: money edition of Texans All Access. John Harris here in 503 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: the Voice of the Texans Mark van Emir there, Mark, 504 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: good evening. It was funny catch up when Nick Cassario 505 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday. What were your overall thoughts when you left 506 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: the building on Saturday after talking to Nick and just 507 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: thinking everything through. Well, I think that especially after today's news, Johnny, 508 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: but I always thought that three ones was going to 509 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: be a good price for Watson plus something. We talked 510 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: about the steak house and the side dishes and arguing 511 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: about what's extras, kind of like arguing about the side dishes. Well, 512 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: you got a couple more side dishes today. You got 513 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: your lobster back and cheese. And I like the fact 514 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: that Saturday of Draft weekend, this is day three of 515 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: the draft, top of the fourth round, right after the Jags, 516 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: you go back to back Texans picks. Now I want 517 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: prop bets. Maybe Sean Pendergast as the right guy to 518 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: talk to about this on how likely Nick Casserio is 519 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 1: to trade at least one of those picks, right because 520 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: after Friday night, as you know, teams look at their 521 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: boards and it's a big reset with each day and 522 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking who's left, who's slipped through the cracks of 523 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: the first three rounds and what team wants to move 524 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: up and grab maybe a quarterback or some other position 525 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: player that maybe you feel like you don't need or 526 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: don't want to take it that particular point, and you 527 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: can add to next year's draft or whatever the case. 528 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe you just take two players back to 529 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: back right there. I remember when the Texans said back 530 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: to back picks at the top of the third round 531 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six and they took Charles Spencer 532 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: and Eric Winston. Obviously, Spencer didn't work out, even though 533 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: he's a great prospect, Winston did. I'm eager to find 534 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: out what happens. What is it? Seven picks, Johnny in 535 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: the first one oh eight? Is that what it is? 536 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: Seven selections in the first one oh eight and you're complaining, 537 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: not you, This is amazing. It's seven picks in the 538 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: first hundred eight. That means basically gets seven Harris one 539 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: hundred players because people are gonna slip through, and that 540 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: could transform That alone could transform your organization. Never mind 541 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: when you have coming up next year, which is still 542 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: five picks in the first three rounds. Right, this is 543 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Let's just find out what he does. 544 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: Nicko Sario with these selections. If you missed in the 545 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: first segment what Mark is referring to the trade as 546 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: it was reported throughout three first rounders, a third rounder 547 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, and then essentially a fourth and 548 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: fifth round swap in twenty twenty four. It's not quite 549 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: the case. It is a fourth rounder in twenty twenty 550 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: four and a sixth rounder is going back, So that 551 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: helps you there. But you're also, as Mark referred to, 552 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: you're getting a fourth round or pick number one oh seven, 553 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: which is coming from Cleveland through Detroit with the second 554 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: pick of the fourth round, the second pick on day three, 555 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: and then you have one oh eight, which is your 556 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: own pick that you have right there. My gut tells 557 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: me that the Texas will not take two players there, 558 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: just knowing Nick. If you got two players rated pretty 559 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: highly though, that might be the spot to do it. 560 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: But if you feel like, hey, as he mentioned in 561 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 1: that first segment, supply demand, if you've got some supply there, 562 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: move on down. Texas don't have a fifth round pick, 563 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: so there's some distance between one oh eight. I think 564 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: it's one eighty three, So if you can move down 565 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe get something that fifth round if 566 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: there's something there that you want to go get and 567 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: look to your point. If you find a player that 568 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: you have a top seventy five grade on and that 569 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: player has just fallen you at one oh seven, take him. 570 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's take if it's following you one oh eight, take him. 571 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: If you don't see anything you like, take one oh seven, 572 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: one oh eight, move on down gets up in a 573 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: little bit later in the draft, where you have the 574 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: value of the player matching up with the spot in 575 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: the draft. And I think that's I don't know general 576 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: managers will say it that way. That's why I look 577 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: at it. Can you find the players, how you have 578 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: valued them, and how they're going to present and give 579 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: value to your team at that respective spot. So that's 580 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: I thought Nick encapsulated pretty well. So the Texans have 581 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: also one oh seven in addition to pick thirteen. So 582 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: let me see if I could do this three thirteen 583 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: thirty seven sixty eight eighty one oh seven, one o eight. 584 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: It's not bad. It's not bad considering what it was 585 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: the last few years in particular, So we got start. 586 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: We go from having a first and second round pick 587 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: and only two of the last five drafts to having 588 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: seven in the first one hundred eight, including two in 589 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: the first thirteen. We've never seen anything like this in 590 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: the history of this franchise. As far as just draft 591 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: weekend itself, it's gonna be the most exciting draft weekend ever. Now, 592 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to take a quarterback high, or will you? 593 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking as I heard this 594 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: news with two picks high in the fourth I thought, 595 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks gonna slim right, and maybe you just grab 596 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: him right backup mills insurance, or maybe he flourishes and 597 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: surprises you, or maybe he's just a good backup, or 598 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: who knows what happens, or you can trade the guy. 599 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks obviously have a great deal of value, so let's 600 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: just see what happens. I think there's so many different scenarios. 601 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about them all between now and the draft, 602 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: and of course after the drafts as to how it 603 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: played out, we certainly will. But right now we're gonna 604 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: talk about what we had alluded to. And I love 605 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: to play this game. I love when this game kicks 606 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: off every single year. Because it kicks off every single year, 607 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: it's called quarterback Roulette. Where will this quarterback go? And 608 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: of course Russell Wilson being traded and Shaw Watson being 609 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: traded kicked off some pretty amazing dominoes. Now, the one 610 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: that the Sean kicked off by going to Cleveland really 611 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: going to Cleveland, wys Baker Mayfield gonna go. We still 612 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: don't know where Baker's gonna go. But the flirting with 613 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: the Shaw Watson in Atlanta, I think forced Atlanta to say, 614 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know that we can how 615 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: is this going to go? Matt Ryan, Well, they decided 616 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: we probably should move on from Matt Ryan, and they did. 617 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: And this is where it now impacts the AFC South 618 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: because for a third round pick, Matt Ryan was traded 619 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: to the Death Star up in Indianapolis, the Indianapolis Colts, 620 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: as Chris Ballard works to get Matt Ryan. Now, I know, 621 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: I put it out there to if you look at 622 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: what they got back for Carson Wentz, or getting back 623 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz what they gave up for Matt Ryan, 624 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: holy smokes. But if you go back even further and 625 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: you're fair, the Colts gave up a giving up their 626 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: first round pick this year for Matt Ryan and a 627 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: third round pick. So if you take Carson Wentz is 628 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: complete out of it, just kind of just just net 629 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: all of those picks. The Colts gave up the first 630 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: round pick this year to go get Matt Ryan and 631 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: a third. Now it's not a half bad deal when 632 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: you look at it like that. So Matt Ryans goes 633 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: to the Colts. Mark your thoughts, Well, they kind of 634 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to say they lucked into it, but 635 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: they kind of did. In Matt Ryan's available, right, no 636 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: one thought Matt Ryan was gonna be available in this way, 637 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: in this fashion, And you're right, Johnny, it works out 638 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: really well for them because they're done with Carson Wentz. 639 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: You look at what Stafford did for the Rams. I'm 640 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: not saying Ryan's gonna do that for the Colts, but 641 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: they don't need him to be Stafford. They need him 642 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: to be solid Matt Ryan. You look at Matt Ryan's numbers, 643 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: solid over the years, doesn't get hurt. I know that 644 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: last year wasn't that great, but look at the twenty 645 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: twenty numbers and the twenty nineteen numbers, they're very, very 646 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: good and good for that offense, especially because you have 647 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor running the rock. You have a good defense, 648 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: you have a good offensive line. Matt Ryan could be 649 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: the difference maker for the Colts, certainly enough to get 650 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: them into the postseason at the very least. So let's 651 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: see how it goes. We all know that Wentz played 652 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: well in spots for the Colts last year, but we 653 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: also saw the left handed picks. We also saw the 654 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: meltdown against the Raiders and the Jags. So let's see 655 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: how it goes from here. I'm amazed, and Johnny Atlanta, 656 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: don't they kind of have to draft a quarterback if 657 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: you part company with Matt Ryan. I'm surprised they couldn't 658 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: kiss and make up with him, And maybe it just 659 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: wasn't going to happen on his end. I don't know 660 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: what went wrong there, and maybe we'll hear about it, 661 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: but are you surprised that they couldn't kind of patch 662 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: it up? Look, Matt, we had a chanance, you know, 663 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: we flirted with Jessica Alba here, Honey, I still love you. 664 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: Can you come? Can you come home? After all? I 665 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if it was doable or not. 666 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: But they're paying a lot of money cap wise. I mean, 667 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: it's costing them a lot against the cap to make 668 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: this move they acquire Mariota. I mean, that's not going 669 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: to be the difference maker for them. Where are they 670 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: going now as an organization? And Arthur Blank said someday 671 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: he'll get into the Hall of Fame. I don't think 672 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's going to the Hall of fame. He's in 673 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: a hall of very good. So I want to get 674 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. Well. My first thought when they 675 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: traded Matt Ryan was twenty twenty three, if Marcus Mariota 676 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: comes in and gives them something, great, But if Marcus 677 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: Mariota comes in and gives them nothing and that things, 678 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: they're lined up to be drafting, at a minimum in 679 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: the top three in one of the better quarterback drafts 680 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: we've seen in a while, and we've seen some good ones. 681 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: So it's a long play. It's a long play. If 682 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: he works out, great, If not, you clear the books 683 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: to the cap number. You get Calvin Ridley back in 684 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Kyle Pitts will be going into year three. 685 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: You then are sitting at the top of the draft. 686 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: You've got Bryce Young, you got CJ. Stroud, you gotta 687 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: fills your COVID, you got Will Rogers. You've got those guys. 688 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: Maybe Spencer Rattler gets things together at South Carolina, he 689 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: gets back into mix. He is wildly talented, but he's 690 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: obviously wildly erratic in a number of ways. You're sitting 691 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: at the top of that draft and you've got an 692 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: opportunity there to reset it in twenty twenty three. Now 693 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: will twenty twenty two be tough? And you got to 694 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: bite the ball a little bit? Yeah, yeah, you're going to. 695 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,239 Speaker 1: And the thing is, Matt Ryan was gonna get you 696 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: seven eight wins, you aren't going to be in position. 697 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: So you take the big old cap hit, you get 698 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: him out of Dodge, you take the three from the Colts. 699 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: You do something with it, and if it doesn't work, 700 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: not saying your tank, but if it doesn't work, you 701 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: got Bryce Young and you got all those quarterbacks sitting 702 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: there ready to be drafted to team with Calvin Ridley 703 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: and Kyle Pitts. And now you set that thing off. 704 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: The NFC South is right to be had once a 705 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: team in that division gets a young quality quarterback. There's 706 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: nobody in that division that has a young quality quarterback. 707 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: And we don't know how long Tom's gonna play. So 708 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 1: if Tom decides after twenty twenty two, he's done well. 709 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: Tampa's looking for a quarterback and they were too good 710 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: to end up in the top five. The Panthers and 711 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: the Saints are still looking for quarterbacks, and there's Atlanta 712 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: position to go get one of those young ones at 713 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: the top of the draft. I think this plays actually 714 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds because fans don't want to 715 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: hear it. Marcus Mariota might be too good, he might 716 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: be too good, he might get him five six wins, 717 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: But I gotta believe it when I see it. But 718 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: I think this is all about clearing the cap, getting 719 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: Ryan off the cap. They couldn't kiss and make up. 720 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: It just wasn't the right move, and at that point 721 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: walk away. Matt. Thanks for everything. We really appreciate it. 722 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: You've done a great job. We're gonna take this big 723 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: old hit. We're gonna take a bath this year, and 724 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be great, but we're gonna reset this 725 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: thing in twenty twenty three with one of these young quarterbacks. 726 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 1: That's my that's my thought on what they're gonna do, 727 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: because you know as well as I do, Mariota is 728 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: not the answer there. He is not the answer. No, 729 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: he can't be the answer. And look, is he gonna 730 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: pull what Tannehill pulled against him? Well, there's no incumbent 731 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I mean, he's basically got the job right 732 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: now barring something else. But I still won't be surprised 733 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: if they take one this year somehow, Johnny and that 734 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: quarterback has a chance to beat out Mariota, who is 735 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: not really flourished in the NFL, as we all know. 736 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: I think it's just fascinating with the Colts. You know, 737 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: they are the nemesis, and they did get better today. 738 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how much better, but they're certainly better. Look, 739 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: they kicked the butts of the Texans with Carson Wentz 740 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: in two games. I mean there was there was no Look, 741 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: there was no shot to take them in the second 742 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: half of either of those games. I mean maybe in 743 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: the first half, if you want to be honest here. 744 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: So what are they gonna do with Matt Ryan. You 745 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: just have to hope that the Texans improve enough, because 746 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: we know there were opportunities to stay in those games. 747 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean at the break, I guess you were in 748 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: the game, especially in the first one. At the second half. 749 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: Mills throws that interception in Indie relatively early after you 750 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: make a stop with them coming out in a locker 751 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: room there. But I just look, it's let's play ball, 752 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: you know when you get there, You get there and 753 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: see what kind of rookie talent the Texans have. How 754 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: much better Mills is? How much better you running the 755 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: football this year? And with the Cults, how much better 756 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: are they with Matt Ryan? I think they will be 757 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: at least as good as Carson Wentz had them when 758 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: he was playing good to great, And maybe there isn't 759 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: even higher ceiling for them with Matt Ryan in the fold. 760 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: He's not getting any younger. That's always a factor. This year. 761 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: The numbers went down, but I think Atlanta was down 762 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: as a team the squad around him. So we'll see 763 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: how it goes. I think Ryan is better than Wentz, 764 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: but he's gonna have to be in in a conference 765 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: like the AFC that has just gone completely through the 766 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: roof crazy. It's nuts what this conference has turned into, 767 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: as opposed to over in the NFC. And you go, 768 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: wait a second, they're Stafford with the Rams, There's Rogers 769 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: with the Packers, Dak with Dallas. Yeah, but wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 770 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 1: wait wait wait. You see everyone's talking about the AFC, 771 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, but you still have two of the 772 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks of all time in the NFC, and Tom 773 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: Brady and Aaron Rodgers and they're still going good. Here 774 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: you have Matt Stafford, who you know, I've had my 775 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: concerns and complaints about Matt Stafford, but he's coming off 776 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl and he's proving his doubters wrong. Okay, 777 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: And after that that's kind of dak Yeah, I know, 778 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of still it's kind of it's top heavy 779 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: with those two guys, Bron Stafford, and then you dropped 780 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: down the AFC of Allan and Watson and Lamar Jackson 781 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and Borrow and stop me ya, Russell Wilson. Yeah, 782 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, just say him. I mean, everywhere you look 783 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: in the AFC, you're facing you're facing stuck quarterback. Not 784 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: quite the way over in the NFC. When we come back, 785 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: we'll go around to the league. Right here in Texans 786 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: All Access, Texans All Access, Texans All we got one 787 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: final segment of this money edition of Texans All Access 788 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: from Monday Texans radio studio. I am John Harris football 789 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: All Southern reporter heading to the station to Marrow for 790 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: Texas A and M Pro Day. Isaiah Spiller running back 791 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: for A and M tight end Jalen Wiermeyer who did 792 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 1: position drills but didn't run or test. I don't believe 793 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: in pretty much anything Isaiah tried to work out, couldn't 794 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: do a whole locks. He's dealing I think with obliqu issue. 795 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing those two Kenyan green 796 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: from A and M to Marvin Leal. A lot of 797 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: talent down into A and M. Gonna go check it 798 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: out on Pro Day to Marroad. Now, if you missed 799 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: news earlier, as it pertains to the Texans, this came 800 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: down actually as Aaron Wilson who tweeted this from Pro 801 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: Football Network. We knew Aaron for all his work here 802 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: with the Chronicle in seven ninety. The trade is now 803 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: complete and official. One major which actually two major changes. 804 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: Number one, an additional fourth rounder added to the trade 805 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: overall pick one oh seven, so the Texas will have 806 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: one or seven one way back to back in this draft. 807 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: So that was not reported as part of the original deal. 808 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: And what was reporting the original deal was essentially a 809 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: round four and five swap in twenty twenty four. It's 810 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: actually the Texans getting a fourth round pick from Cleveland 811 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: for a Texans sixth round pick in twenty twenty four. 812 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: So the Texans actually come out of there with six 813 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: draft picks, all fourth round or better, three first to 814 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: force a third. They do give up a sixth on 815 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: the way out the door. So that's changed because it 816 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: was originally reported to first, a third, a fourth in 817 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: setting a fifth back. This is three first two two 818 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, three first, a third and two fourths in 819 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: one of those forces coming in this particular draft. So 820 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 1: two additional picks in twenty twenty two, two and twenty 821 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: twenty three, two and twenty twenty four six overall for 822 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: your Texans. And that was not all of the news. Now, 823 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: this next news was reported and reported pretty much across 824 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: the landscape of Houston and the NFL to Texans return 825 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: Justin britt and Desmond King. The team made an official 826 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: sending that notice out over the weekend. They made an 827 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: official with Christian Kirksey MALIEK. Collins. I'm trying to remember 828 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: who else was added in that mix, But today it 829 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: was announced, ohficial Lee that Desmond King and Justin Britt 830 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: are coming back. It was also reported and this is 831 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,439 Speaker 1: not official by the team, but it is has been 832 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: reported by many, and I think as we saw with 833 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: the Shaw Watson trade, you still want to see how 834 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: believe it when it says official, but it doesn't seem 835 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: as if Commu Gruge Hill is coming back for year 836 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: two with the Texans signing a one year deal. So 837 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on with your Texans. The 838 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: Watson trade is full and complete, and there was a 839 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: little nugget of surprise going with that today which was 840 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of nice to see. A big thanks to Mark, 841 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: to GM, Nick Kisserio to all of you. Are reminder 842 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Nick will be on with Sean Pendergast at Seth Paint 843 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 1: seven thirty tomorrow Nick Kissario on Sports Radio six ten. 844 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: We ad him here tonight. They have them tomorrow. Great 845 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: stuff from Nick Kissario. Thank you all very much. We'll 846 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.