Speaker 1: Hey, it's Roun and Kratz, but eventually it will be
Speaker 1: AJ as well. You should join us. Pretty shortly into
Speaker 1: the show, apparently he's having drinks with Tom Brady or
Speaker 1: something close to that. Yeah, I wish I was joking.
Speaker 1: I think that's actually what's happening right now. He's just
Speaker 1: doing like a cocktail in the afternoon with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So we'll get to AJ in a moment, probably ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes in the show. We got a good
Speaker 1: one for you today, and we used to do something
Speaker 1: different off the top krats. I don't like to give
Speaker 1: attention to warm trash, but I'm going to give it
Speaker 1: a little bit of run. So I remember when we
Speaker 1: talked to Rowdy the other day and he was perturbed
Speaker 1: by a radio interview where they just attacked him with
Speaker 1: fat jokes and he's like, I don't even know you,
Speaker 1: and this is weird. We're not best friends. So I
Speaker 1: asked him if he thought that we were in a
Speaker 1: spot where sometimes shows are just trying to ask things
Speaker 1: to try and get viral and get some attention when
Speaker 1: they need it, and that show didn't like that. I
Speaker 1: asked that question, didn't name names. I legitimately don't know
Speaker 1: any names on that show. I still don't, but at
Speaker 1: least one of our trustemen behind the scenes sent me
Speaker 1: a clip of them personally attacking me. Twerp stick is
Speaker 1: stry comedy, I don't know, all kinds of fun, right
Speaker 1: attacking And then of course there's a producer on there
Speaker 1: who's like, he actually does guest spots on some of
Speaker 1: our shows, sometimes obviously for free, so he's kind of
Speaker 1: a nice guy. It was just super awkward and just
Speaker 1: reminded me of like what some shows try to do
Speaker 1: and fail so so badly with is you're in your fifties,
Speaker 1: you're trying hard to be the next Howard Stern, mad dog,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, and it's really cringe content.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Okay, I didn't go time too
Speaker 1: deep into it at the time, but it's a really
Speaker 1: tough look when someone came and ask a question and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, is this guy he's a twerp and
Speaker 1: it's a bad accent and it's like this tough guy mentality.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that you don't know much about sports and
Speaker 1: you have to try and take personal shots so the
Speaker 1: show can stay alive. And get attention. But that's what
Speaker 1: it sounded like to me. So it was on one
Speaker 1: oh five to three the Fan if you'd like to
Speaker 1: tune in giving them some love. I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: lot of great people that work there, but there were
Speaker 1: a couple guys that just decided to take some shots.
Speaker 1: They want to bring me on the radio show. I've
Speaker 1: been on there before and we had a nice cordial conversation,
Speaker 1: and I'm allowed to ask an athlete if he feels
Speaker 1: like he was being trolled into answering questions a certain way. Okay,
Speaker 1: free country, so get off my back.
Speaker 2: Did they say anything about your chains? No?
Speaker 1: No chains. Attack twerp is an interesting choice, though, I
Speaker 1: mean not that one I've never received before. We probably
Speaker 1: haven't met in person. If I'm being called a twerp.
Speaker 3: I would go, I would I'm gonna actually, before you
Speaker 3: even say any of that, I would say twarp would
Speaker 3: never twerp, small guy, ugly, all words I would never
Speaker 3: use to describe Scott Brown because he's not a twerp.
Speaker 3: Sneaky tall, sneaky tall guy, incredibly jacked, lots of muscles
Speaker 3: on muscles, So just saying just just don't don't go
Speaker 3: there you can, and don't make fun of my friend Scott.
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody make fun of.
Speaker 1: Me one more so so they said see me, like
Speaker 1: as if I'm trying to get attention drawn to me
Speaker 1: now as somebody that's on the show all the time.
Speaker 1: I actually have very specific rules for interviews. I try
Speaker 1: and be the guy who asks the fewest questions when
Speaker 1: we post stuff on social media. I don't like when
Speaker 1: I am on it too often. So see me is
Speaker 1: basically my anti religion.
Speaker 3: It's not and I can back that up. I can
Speaker 3: back it up. There's plenty of times that we're asked
Speaker 3: who's next on a question. Scott routinely says I have things,
Speaker 3: but they don't want to hear from me, or this
Speaker 3: is all you guys. So Scott is the While he
Speaker 3: is the incredible host and incredible muscles, he does not
Speaker 3: want to be seen.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: It's it's anti what everybody thinks, like somebody that's on
Speaker 3: a show, somebody that's been on TV. It's not Scott.
Speaker 3: So you really you missed the mark. You took a swing,
Speaker 3: Sorry it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Yeah, just trying to play point guard. But anyway,
Speaker 1: get our few minute shots back in there. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll hear from them again, but that's the only time
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring it up. Case closed, Let's talk ball,
Speaker 1: talk about oh krats. Of course, the one time that
Speaker 1: aj it's going to be a few minutes late. It's
Speaker 1: just you and me, Jersey born Scott, a lot of
Speaker 1: family members who are die hard Mets fans and Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: born aircrats, who is Philly, thick and thin and in Philly.
Speaker 1: Right now, these are actually these are actually their favorite losses,
Speaker 1: right the Philly's actually lost yesterday, they got blown out
Speaker 1: by the reds Ate nothing, but it's their favorite lost
Speaker 1: because they're losing to a team that has a chance
Speaker 1: to catch the Mets for the wild card standings. The
Speaker 1: Mets blew a brutal game yesterday versus Atlanta. They cannot
Speaker 1: maintain leads right now. David Peterson here in the fourth
Speaker 1: inning nursing a six run lead, is part of a
Speaker 1: Mets pitching staff that ends up allowing nine runs off
Speaker 1: four hits, five walks. Michael Harris had a grand Slam
Speaker 1: in this one. He's been one of the best hitters
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season after being one
Speaker 1: of the worst hitters in the first half of the season.
Speaker 1: Starters are not giving length. There was some offense here
Speaker 1: early on, they scored enough to win the ballgame, but
Speaker 1: the pitching staff is crumbling in mid August. This happens
Speaker 1: to teams. But what the heck is going on with
Speaker 1: the Mets. Are they going to be able to recover
Speaker 1: from this? Or are the Braves and others going to
Speaker 1: have fun playing spoiler for the next six weeks and
Speaker 1: knock this team out of the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I mean to say that the Mets aren't going to
Speaker 3: make the playoffs is as bold for even me. Beginning
Speaker 3: of the season, I got roasted by Mets fans for
Speaker 3: saying they're going to finish third. That didn't mean I
Speaker 3: didn't like the Mets. It also didn't mean that I
Speaker 3: thought the Mets were the best team in the National
Speaker 3: League East. It just means that I didn't think they
Speaker 3: were built to withstand one hundred and sixty two games
Speaker 3: to be the best team in the East, let alone
Speaker 3: in the National League, which I think that's what they
Speaker 3: want to be. And everything is going wrong right now.
Speaker 3: The team forgot to hit with runners in scoring position,
Speaker 3: and when they did, you can't over You can't overcome
Speaker 3: five straight starters not getting into the fifth inning. You
Speaker 3: can't overcome that. There is just especially in July and August,
Speaker 3: because the bullpen's just going to be so exhausted and granted.
Speaker 3: Beginning of the season when the Mets were hot and
Speaker 3: even Jan Soda wasn't hitting during that time or to
Speaker 3: Juan Soto levels, the team was winning because this bullpen
Speaker 3: was ridiculous. It was just a cavalcade of dudes who
Speaker 3: were just having career years. Some have been sent down
Speaker 3: to Triple A, and now this bullpen is getting tired.
Speaker 3: You need your starters to go longer. This team wasn't
Speaker 3: built for starters to go longer. One of their free
Speaker 3: agent signings, I'm not called in Sean Manyah free agent
Speaker 3: signing because I was a great signing, you know, brought
Speaker 3: them back comfortable where he's at. Didn't work out, and
Speaker 3: you can't miss if you don't have a lot of
Speaker 3: signings that are going to give you length.
Speaker 2: And they're not getting any length right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going wrong except and they're throwing
Speaker 3: some absolute meatballs up there because they're behind in the count.
Speaker 3: To me, it just looks like the pitching staff does
Speaker 3: not trust they can get outs in the zone.
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Speaker 1: David Peterson was the bright spot here, right, all star
Speaker 1: giving this team length, we can show that Anthony Dicomo
Speaker 1: tweet two covers the Mets on a daily basis, and
Speaker 1: you said they have received five hundred and ninety four
Speaker 1: and a third innings from their starters this season. That
Speaker 1: is twenty seventh in baseball since June thirteenth, a spent
Speaker 1: of exactly two months. They are dead last in that category.
Speaker 1: He said, they simply cannot keep doing this and expect
Speaker 1: to win consistently. I will point some other parts out.
Speaker 1: When you do lottery ticket signings of free agent starters,
Speaker 1: it's not going to be as perfect as it was
Speaker 1: last year. Every time. Example, a Frankie montas we mentioned
Speaker 1: him yesterday, he got demoted to the bullpen. That's a
Speaker 1: seventeen million dollar a year starter, right, That was a
Speaker 1: similar rate that you were paying for Luis Sevorino last year.
Speaker 1: Or a Sean Mania who broke out with the team
Speaker 1: last year. You're not going to hit on all those.
Speaker 1: I'll give you another example, Kratz. Clay Holmes was on
Speaker 1: fire to start the season for the Mets. Didn't give
Speaker 1: up a home run in his first seven starts. It's
Speaker 1: got good stuff. But guess what, He's never done this before.
Speaker 1: He's never done a full season as a starter. Look
Speaker 1: back at last year Raynaldo Lopez takes the league by storm.
Speaker 1: Eventually later in the season, Fades gets hurt and has
Speaker 1: missed most of this season as well. Not saying it's
Speaker 1: going to be the exact same fate, but relying on
Speaker 1: Clay to be as good as he was in the
Speaker 1: beginning of the season was false hope. His expected RA
Speaker 1: was much higher. He was giving up some hard contacts,
Speaker 1: so there was some batted ball luck, and that is
Speaker 1: actually reversed now is expected DRA is actually much lower
Speaker 1: than his RA in the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: But point being, it's all falling apart at the same time.
Speaker 1: And when we do send out a little warning at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season that we like this team,
Speaker 1: but we're feeling a little bit uneasy about the starting rotation,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that in April. It means now here
Speaker 1: we are. Oh, let's try and get past this. They've
Speaker 1: lost nine to eleven games so far in August. Do
Speaker 1: we think that they will bounce back because I think
Speaker 1: that the offense will continue to turn things around. I
Speaker 1: know Lindor has been slower since that injury, and Soto's
Speaker 1: been really consistently good all year. If you're pointing to
Speaker 1: Soto and thinking that he's the problem with around a
Speaker 1: one to fifty ops plus, look up his career stats.
Speaker 1: His career stats are one fifty something ops plus. He's
Speaker 1: doing exactly what he does exactly his brand of baseball.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. He's close to thirty homers,
Speaker 1: he gets on base. He is one Soto right now.
Speaker 1: So I think he takes zero blame for this.
Speaker 3: Except except if you're going to say we could have
Speaker 3: taken some of that money and invested in a pitcher.
Speaker 3: Don't say Juan Soto socks. He's not hitting with runnings
Speaker 3: the scoring position. Besides, last year, Jan Soto is not
Speaker 3: this like one hundred and thirty RBI guy. He is
Speaker 3: going to be in the ilk of somebody who doesn't
Speaker 3: chase out of the zone that Joey Vado type. Plus
Speaker 3: he's hitting a ton of homers. I think it is
Speaker 3: twenty ninth homer, So he's gonna have thirty five to
Speaker 3: forty homers this year, which is great, But his RBIs
Speaker 3: aren't going to be in one hundred and thirty a
Speaker 3: season because he doesn't chase. And with runners of scoring position,
Speaker 3: pitchers try to get you to chase, and he just
Speaker 3: won't do it just to like, just to drive one
Speaker 3: run in. It's just not his mo And that's okay,
Speaker 3: it's not his fault. It is this offense will turn around,
Speaker 3: and I actually think this offense has shown their turning
Speaker 3: around to me. They need to figure out how to
Speaker 3: try to get outs in the zone when you have
Speaker 3: a six run lead like last night, you cannot walk
Speaker 3: five batters. You can't walk five batters in the game
Speaker 3: when you have six run lead, because one solo home
Speaker 3: run never gets you back in the game. A grand
Speaker 3: slam when two of those guys were walked does get
Speaker 3: the other team back in the game. You can't walk back.
Speaker 3: And to me, this is on the pitchers, This is
Speaker 3: on Jeremy Hefner, this is on the catching court. They
Speaker 3: have to get these guys back in the zone. And
Speaker 3: it starts tonight because they don't have a day off.
Speaker 3: It starts tonight with Senga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have many days off for a while.
Speaker 1: They have the eighteenth on Monday. That's it for the
Speaker 1: rest of the month. So it is what it is.
Speaker 1: If they could look back and make a trade for
Speaker 1: a starter at the trade deadline, they would, but it's
Speaker 1: too late. That's why the trade deadline is done at
Speaker 1: the end of July, and it is what it is.
Speaker 1: They're one game ahead of the Reds right now. It's
Speaker 1: almost a fresh season here, right We're going to be
Speaker 1: head to head against the Reds, who are one game
Speaker 1: off of the wild card spot. Right now, you have
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and the Cubs ahead of them. And for
Speaker 1: the Mets, after one more against Atlanta tonight, it doesn't
Speaker 1: get easier. They are at home, but they take on
Speaker 1: a roaring Seattle Mariners team that can really pitch and
Speaker 1: they can swing the bats, so it gets a little
Speaker 1: lighter after that. They have three against the Nats. That's
Speaker 1: probably one of the best teams to face right now.
Speaker 1: That team is not in good shape. But then it's
Speaker 1: more Braves than the Phillies. Four against the Marlins. You
Speaker 1: take on division opponents who have seen your pitching a lot,
Speaker 1: and then the last month of the season, they do
Speaker 1: have three against the Reds, they have four against the Phillies,
Speaker 1: three against the Tigers. They've got some padres in there,
Speaker 1: some cubs in there. This is not going to be easy,
Speaker 1: so to be continued. But they need to figure this
Speaker 1: out fast, and the answer might be that they have
Speaker 1: some good pitching prospects that could be ready to go.
Speaker 1: One of them, Nolan MacLean, who's going to pitch on
Speaker 1: the weekend. A lot of pressure on them, but Kate
Speaker 1: Horton's doing it for the Cubs. We'll see if they
Speaker 1: get the same kind of production here from there. Guys,
Speaker 1: let's answer one fan question on this topic or statement
Speaker 1: BM in the chat said, Soto's an exact replica of
Speaker 1: what he was on the twenty three padres individual, mercenary,
Speaker 1: badfield or overhyped? What happened to Realistically evaluating this guy?
Speaker 1: What am I missing here? Looks like the same guy
Speaker 1: on defense, looks like the same guy on offense. I
Speaker 1: can't speak to how he is inside the clubhouse. Most
Speaker 1: of the Mets guys are speaking nicely of him, so
Speaker 1: and you can never accuse Juan Soto of being like
Speaker 1: a clubhouse camp or something like that. He does not
Speaker 1: have that rep if you don't think he's the one
Speaker 1: leading the charge in a meeting or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Metals have guys like that. Lindor is one of them,
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo to an extent, Right, there's other guys there
Speaker 1: that figure out ways to kind of lead ball clubs.
Speaker 1: And also, let's just drop it with the chemistry stuff
Speaker 1: right now. Is this a chemistry issue with the Mets
Speaker 1: or is it a lack of pitchers going deep into games.
Speaker 3: I'm only going to hit on the Wan Soto part
Speaker 3: because we just hit on all the other stuff. Wan
Speaker 3: Soto for his entire career has been exactly what he
Speaker 3: is now. Last year was he won seventy nine ops plus? Sure, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I didn't get the ops one seventy eight,
Speaker 3: one seventy eight ops plus. Every other year it's one
Speaker 3: fifty eight, one fifty eight. His MVP year was the
Speaker 3: short strike shortens, I mean, the COVID season. But this
Speaker 3: is what you're getting. And oh, by the way, he's
Speaker 3: got eighteen bags. So if you think this guy's not
Speaker 3: coming out to like win games and all this stuff,
Speaker 3: he doesn't have to accumulate stats anymore. He's doing exactly
Speaker 3: what you should have thought he was gonna do. And
Speaker 3: it ain't his fault until something comes out where he's
Speaker 3: like choking somebody out in the clubhouse. He's not a
Speaker 3: bad clubhouse guy. Don't put that on him.
Speaker 1: For those of you complaining about C. B. Buckner, oh
Speaker 1: don't you worry. We have a whole segment on him
Speaker 1: coming up in a minute. AJ. Good to see you.
Speaker 1: How's our buddy Tom Brady doing.
Speaker 5: He's good.
Speaker 6: I'd never met Tom until twenty five minutes ago. We're
Speaker 6: actually a little bit forty five minutes ago. Yeah, it
Speaker 6: was nice. I asked him to come on the show.
Speaker 6: He said he would possibly down the road talk baseball. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he's good. He's he's Tom Brady. I mean, there you go.
Speaker 6: I mean, what do you want me to say, tom Brady?
Speaker 6: It's Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Have him stand behind you. It makes you look short.
Speaker 1: And you're not tall.
Speaker 3: He's too much short though, Yeah, but just have him
Speaker 3: stand behind you, like he knows how to take a
Speaker 3: picture like like, look at how much bigger I looked
Speaker 3: at you? Because I'm up. Yeah, me and Scott are
Speaker 3: way bigger than ay Jan. That's not the case. Like
Speaker 3: he knows, he's he's aware. Next time, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: get a picture like from the side, like biceps, he's looking.
Speaker 5: He is skinny.
Speaker 6: Should I put the one leg up like everyone does,
Speaker 6: like where they go like put the one leg up?
Speaker 2: No, that's I don't know.
Speaker 5: Oh that's what. He didn't know who I was, though
Speaker 5: I'm proud he didn't know who I was.
Speaker 6: You know, this is really kind of funny. You know
Speaker 6: why he knew who I was because I played for
Speaker 6: the Giants and he's a Giants fan. He's like, oh,
Speaker 6: you played for the Giants and I was like I did.
Speaker 6: He's like how many What year was that? And I
Speaker 6: was like two thousand and four and he's like, oh,
Speaker 6: that was Barry's good year. And then Brad Zieger that
Speaker 6: one of the heads of Fox Sports. Cause yeah, he's
Speaker 6: the one that hit behind him. That's why you walk
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Speaker 1: Ump Show is back. The new Angel Hernandez has a name.
Speaker 1: It's CB Buckner. He's been in the league for a
Speaker 1: long period of time. It's time first inning Dodgers Angels
Speaker 1: seven misses. It's embarrassing at this point. It's a really
Speaker 1: tough watch, guys, if you're watching this live, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like a big league game is being called, and
Speaker 1: this is pretty frequent. We'll show you how he did
Speaker 1: in last night's game. We'll show you the UMP, auditor score,
Speaker 1: the whole deal. You know, it's bad when most broadcasters
Speaker 1: are told to take it a little bit easy on umps.
Speaker 1: If you're an MLB or a team broadcaster, and everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't fake this. This is even too much for
Speaker 1: anybody else to deal with. So our buddy Steven Nelson's
Speaker 1: watching this, like, yeah, right, so that one. Both of
Speaker 1: those are called strikes. If you're looking at the screen
Speaker 1: right now, If you're listening to us podcast wise later on,
Speaker 1: I highly advise that you at least tune in for
Speaker 1: this segment. What am I looking at right now?
Speaker 5: Listen?
Speaker 6: Cebe is a nice guy and Kratzl he's a nice
Speaker 6: guy when you talk to him, but there's always.
Speaker 5: Been a thing about him in the league.
Speaker 6: When you see him on the list, you're like, boys,
Speaker 6: be careful today because it might not go exactly correct,
Speaker 6: and just don't get run. So he'd have good games.
Speaker 6: He had bad games. Everyone has a bad day. Seebe's
Speaker 6: a nice guy, but he has been known to have
Speaker 6: a bad game or two, and last night was not
Speaker 6: a good game, first inning included, but it went to
Speaker 6: the It went all the way to the ninth inning.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like he got better. He just stayed the same.
Speaker 6: And everyone just gets used to it.
Speaker 3: You do, and that is something that back not to
Speaker 3: be a back in the day guy, but you get
Speaker 3: used to it. I heard an umpire once say when
Speaker 3: I first tim McClellan, when I first got into the
Speaker 3: big leagues, he's like, if I call his own bigger early,
Speaker 3: guys start swinging. And then he said, by the fifth,
Speaker 3: sixth inning, I shrink it. Guys are already aggressive. They're
Speaker 3: not just taking every borderline pitch. We're not in that
Speaker 3: day and age anymore. I don't think CB was trying
Speaker 3: to do this, but it's really concerning to me because
Speaker 3: Kendrick was out there like, he doesn't throw one hundred
Speaker 3: miles an hour. It's not like one of the pitches
Speaker 3: of the seven that he missed in the first inning
Speaker 3: was from show, Hey, who's throwing a hundred? Hey, you
Speaker 3: know what, maybe it's too fast for you. Our boy
Speaker 3: was out there throwing eighty eight eighty nine, sinking it,
Speaker 3: cutting it, change ups and he wasn't seeing it. It
Speaker 3: was a bad first inning, but it's tougher when it's
Speaker 3: somebody that's constant, routinely, year in and year out, not
Speaker 3: been good.
Speaker 1: We have a little clip we can run of Stephen Nelson,
Speaker 1: Dodgers broadcaster, having fun with the scenario, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's what life's about. You got to make fun of
Speaker 1: the tough times.
Speaker 3: Two point to two e er all excuse me, strike one.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, you're gonna They basically said on
Speaker 1: the broadcast after that, you're gonna have to wait to
Speaker 1: make your call longer as the broadcaster, even for the
Speaker 1: obvious ones, because he might get that wrong. They literally
Speaker 1: spoke about that on the broadcast. And then later on
Speaker 1: in that inning he said ball four for the strikeout
Speaker 1: when Freeland was up and took one well off the
Speaker 1: plate to end the top of the first.
Speaker 6: Listen, I'm telling you it wasn't just the first inning.
Speaker 6: Watch the seventh, eighth, and ninth inning. It was the
Speaker 6: same thing. There were balls in the dock, you know,
Speaker 6: they light up on their strikes. There was especially at
Speaker 6: the top of the zone, and I was watching the
Speaker 6: Angels broadcast. I was watching Wayne Rendezo and Mark Uz
Speaker 6: and they made the same comments. There was a pitch
Speaker 6: that was clearly a strike and they showed the box
Speaker 6: and I don't know if it was Wayne or Gooby
Speaker 6: that said, well, that ball is all the way in
Speaker 6: the box, not even just touching an edge, and we
Speaker 6: don't know where it missed.
Speaker 5: So it was.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like it was just the first inning. I
Speaker 6: don't know if we have the scorecard, but it was
Speaker 6: the whole nine innings. It was all nine innings of this.
Speaker 3: That's that's Christmas tree. That's light up Christmas tree. There
Speaker 3: just green red balls called strikes, strikes called balls.
Speaker 2: It's not good.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Logan O Hoppies out there getting he's
Speaker 3: getting big time credits going as arbitration a game like
Speaker 3: that where he has a plus plus what was it say,
Speaker 3: plus one oh two run save for run run advantage
Speaker 3: for for his receiving numbers.
Speaker 2: Like oh, they love that. That's huge.
Speaker 3: Reality is he just wasn't very good last night. He
Speaker 3: wasn't very good. And that is It's tough. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's gonna be There's gonna be a lot of this
Speaker 3: next year if you're gonna have a game like that.
Speaker 6: Hey, So can I say something about this though, because
Speaker 6: I want to. I want to ask you about Crowtzy
Speaker 6: and Scott about this. So you're talking about the ABS
Speaker 6: next year, right and this tapping. So I've been when
Speaker 6: I go to the stadiums a lot of times I
Speaker 6: talk to umpires. I go in the umpire room and
Speaker 6: I talk to the umpires and just to say, because
Speaker 6: I know I still a lot of the umpires, so
Speaker 6: I go in there and say hi, and you know,
Speaker 6: how's it going guys? Or I see him in the
Speaker 6: tunnel and talk to him, and you know, umpires have
Speaker 6: been telling me that, especially guys that have been in
Speaker 6: the ABS down in the Triple A's, that catchers and
Speaker 6: this is gonna sound funny to do crats, but this
Speaker 6: is something that I never thought about. Catchers were like, say,
Speaker 6: it's the first pitch of the game and they just
Speaker 6: box it, but they box it on purpose, right, so
Speaker 6: it's right down the middle, and they go and they
Speaker 6: clank it or they move it away out of the
Speaker 6: strike zone, and then the hitter's like, damn, do I
Speaker 6: need to challenge that? And the mPire still has to
Speaker 6: call it a strike, right, and then the guy goes
Speaker 6: like this, and then they lose their challenge.
Speaker 5: Like, come, you ever thought about that?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 6: Like the catchers early in games box balls on purpose
Speaker 6: that are that they know are strikes, but they're kind
Speaker 6: of borderline.
Speaker 5: They're like oh oh man, oh right.
Speaker 6: And then they get and they lose their challenges and
Speaker 6: people people are saying that down in the in the
Speaker 6: Triple A and stuff, that the catchers are starting to
Speaker 6: do this. That's smart as hell if you think about it.
Speaker 3: Wow, I never thought about that, what I what I
Speaker 3: mean gaming gaming, The gamers like that, Hey, we're gonna
Speaker 3: see it. We're gonna see it, so I'm interested in
Speaker 3: to see. But that is that is something I've never heard.
Speaker 6: I'd never thought about it, never heard it. But I
Speaker 6: like the initiative by the catchers, right, Scott. I mean,
Speaker 6: you gotta game the game, right, So if it's a
Speaker 6: deep like you know, you know, if I have fastball
Speaker 6: is coming, you're the catcher and you're setup away and
Speaker 6: you know it's a strike, and you kind of just oh,
Speaker 6: like you know you could do that, and then the
Speaker 6: hitters like out of his mind. He's like, man, was
Speaker 6: that really a strike? And they drop the challenge, they
Speaker 6: lose it. And you do that a couple of times,
Speaker 6: they're out in the second third inning later on, it
Speaker 6: saves you good gamesmanship.
Speaker 1: That's good deep Hey, if you got someone to fall
Speaker 1: for that, just like we see deeps in the field.
Speaker 1: Sometimes that look silly, but occasionally they work and you're like, hey.
Speaker 5: But he's good.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing though, from the dugout, everyone's god, that's
Speaker 6: not a strike.
Speaker 5: Look how he caught it? No, no, no, But.
Speaker 6: In reality, if you're good enough to do it, then
Speaker 6: people see it and they're like, oh, challenge, challenge, you know, Kratz.
Speaker 5: I know it's crazy, but it could work.
Speaker 3: You're you're you're off so kind of playing you're playing
Speaker 3: the you know, it's almost like a coin flip game,
Speaker 3: like that's it may or may not work. But to me,
Speaker 3: like all the receiving not even to me, the whole
Speaker 3: receiving number is do you get that fifty to fifty
Speaker 3: ball because over here you miss it. Okay, whatever, that's
Speaker 3: more points, but it's a pitch that's missed a lot less.
Speaker 3: It's that fifty to fifty ball right down the middle.
Speaker 3: If you can accumulate the most fifty to fifty balls
Speaker 3: being called strikes. That's where the value is not getting
Speaker 3: this pitch is this far off the plate called a strike,
Speaker 3: or this pitch is this far on the plate called
Speaker 3: a ball. You know it's it's those borderline pitches. So
Speaker 3: ultimately it's gonna be about the borderline pitches. But it'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to see. I've never thought about that, and
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see some dude just first pitch of
Speaker 3: the game, just just oh man, I can't believe I
Speaker 3: missed that one.
Speaker 1: Framing is still in play. I just want to make
Speaker 1: that clear because of the fact that you can only challenge.
Speaker 1: It'll only be two or three times in a game.
Speaker 1: So let's say you use one early and you're wrong, right,
Speaker 1: and then you have one left, say for the rest
Speaker 1: of the game, okay, or even if you had two left.
Speaker 1: But it's the middle of a game and a catcher
Speaker 1: is just a framing monster and it's close. You can't
Speaker 1: take that risk. Can't take that risk when in the
Speaker 1: ninth inning your best hitter might be up, so the
Speaker 1: framing is still going to be in play. I love
Speaker 1: the gamesmanship component of this. This is where ft takes
Speaker 1: center stage. We got two catchers on the show every day,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be the top story in baseball
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing. Here's also something else to think about.
Speaker 6: And a lot of these guys that I've talked to
Speaker 6: have said this, It wears on an umpire. I know,
Speaker 6: umpires do the best they can. Listen, most umpires are
Speaker 6: really good at their job, and ninety nine percent of
Speaker 6: the games we don't talk about, right, but this new
Speaker 6: ABS system. Mentally, think about it if in the first
Speaker 6: two winnings there's like five of these and they're wrong,
Speaker 6: and then they're like, oh my gosh, what is wrong
Speaker 6: with me? And then it starts becoming a mental thing.
Speaker 6: Like hitting you go for twenty you're like, oh, never
Speaker 6: gonna get in a hit again. Right, these umpires in
Speaker 6: the middle of a game, they miss four or five
Speaker 6: in boom boom, boom boom, let's let's check it, and
Speaker 6: they're all wrong. To the umpire man, it's got to
Speaker 6: get in their head a little bit too. So, I mean,
Speaker 6: there's things that I never thought about that they're starting
Speaker 6: to come up.
Speaker 5: And it's it's gonna be fascinating when this hits.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long.
Speaker 3: I think it'll be I think it'll be good though,
Speaker 3: because a game like last night, CEB has that many.
Speaker 3: He has three wrong in the first inning. Unless you
Speaker 3: are just completely zoned out and could care less about
Speaker 3: your job, which I don't think these guys do at all.
Speaker 3: He's gonna lock in and it's gonna You're just gonna
Speaker 3: automatically get better.
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Speaker 1: the first nineteen wrong in the game. So I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, it's not usually going to extend any time.
Speaker 1: But if there's nineteen wrong and let's say a team
Speaker 1: challenges twelve or thirteen of those, I mean it's going
Speaker 1: to be a fun watch, okay, because you're not going
Speaker 1: to get that very often where there's twelve or thirteen
Speaker 1: going against the yump. That's just crazy in a game
Speaker 1: like that where you can't challenge every single pitch, But
Speaker 1: it's going to be fun. A couple questions, as we've
Speaker 1: been talking about this bird on the YouTube chats that
Speaker 1: are umps required to get eyesight tests? Stupid question, but curious.
Speaker 1: I mean they go beyond an eyesight test. No, I
Speaker 1: mean they're actually going through an umpire program and umpiring
Speaker 1: in the minor leagues and getting called up. I do understand.
Speaker 1: Once you're up, you're up right, So I don't think
Speaker 1: they're getting anything retested, but they do give them report
Speaker 1: cards after every game of how they did, and that
Speaker 1: helps to decide who's doing what assignments. But an no
Speaker 1: crafts a my off on that.
Speaker 3: No, oh, what assignments you mean like World series and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a post It doesn't work exactly like this,
Speaker 1: but they have their grading system. It even includes how
Speaker 1: you're dealing with people like the you know, how many
Speaker 1: times you're getting into it with managers and players and
Speaker 1: all of that. We talked about this, right because we've
Speaker 1: done World Series postgame shows and we're like, why is
Speaker 1: this on behind home plate right now? This guy's got
Speaker 1: an eighty seven percent clip and the best one in
Speaker 1: the league's ninety two. Why is the ninety two not there?
Speaker 1: But I'm saying there is supposed to be some type
Speaker 1: of incentivization that if you're doing a good job by
Speaker 1: whatever grading system they're using, you will get, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe an All Star game or postseason World series. You disagree, crats,
Speaker 1: It's it's it's what's supposed to exist behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: There's no accountability, Come on, stop, Like ninety two percent right.
Speaker 3: That means you're allowed to miss sixteen total pitches if
Speaker 3: you have a if you get a two hundred pitch game,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of pitches because not all pitches are called,
Speaker 3: you know, so there's ball put in play. But just
Speaker 3: to give you an idea, if there's a two hundred
Speaker 3: pitch game, that's a lot of pitches. That'd be sixteen
Speaker 3: sixteen pitches they can miss. They can miss. The accountability
Speaker 3: is and you're never losing your job. And we've seen
Speaker 3: the guys who are actually in the big leagues, I
Speaker 3: mean in the playoffs, and they're not always the best umpires.
Speaker 3: If it was the umpires, I think you would get
Speaker 3: more there's more accountability, you would get better games called.
Speaker 3: But some of these bad umpires go to the playoffs
Speaker 3: and have some of their best scores all season.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to get rewarded. But I got what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And there were one hundred eighty seven decisions to make
Speaker 1: in the game that we're picking on with C. B. Buckner.
Speaker 1: One hundred eighty seven decisions. So you do impact the
Speaker 1: game quite a bit if you're an umpire. This is
Speaker 1: going to at least help things one more real quick
Speaker 1: on this moral are problem childs who we have fun
Speaker 1: with sometimes. In the YouTube chat said how much time
Speaker 1: does the hitter have to challenge? One second? Question mark?
Speaker 1: Or hitters going to be looking into the dugout immediately
Speaker 1: after a borderline pitch to see if they should challenge.
Speaker 1: The whole name of the game here is that you
Speaker 1: have to immediately make a decision. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if they said it's one second, but it is essentially
Speaker 1: one second.
Speaker 3: So what I what I was told, and I'd have
Speaker 3: to I'd have to ask a triple a umpire right
Speaker 3: now or an umpire that's been doing it.
Speaker 2: If if you.
Speaker 3: View even if it's in one second, and you look
Speaker 3: over that, if you're getting any kind of help from
Speaker 3: a coach from the dugout, they can.
Speaker 2: Be like nope, no, no, no, no, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 3: Now if you if you see it and you're like,
Speaker 3: oh wait wait, I want to challenge, then it might
Speaker 3: have actually taken longer to do that. But if they
Speaker 3: deem that you were getting help from somebody else, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 1: Okay, AJ, you're hearing the same thing now I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about a runner at second base who immediately sees the
Speaker 1: pitch and does one of those yankee jumping Jackson says, hey,
Speaker 1: challenge this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know. It's gonna be This
Speaker 6: is gonna be fascinating. I'm all for. It's gonna be fascinating.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be so amazing. How many times early it
Speaker 6: goes like this, How many guys waste them? Who gets
Speaker 6: to use them when they use them? The gamesmanship, the
Speaker 6: umpire ship, Oh, it's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for those that night.
Speaker 6: But that's why I don't want full roboms either. I
Speaker 6: want there to be some more more stuff going on.
Speaker 1: You're going to get that last night would go ultraviral
Speaker 1: for how many times you're going to see teams challenge
Speaker 1: and win those challenges to correct someone like this. So
Speaker 1: if you've been waiting for that moment, this will penalize
Speaker 1: an umpire because you're going to have a frigging five
Speaker 1: hour game if you're challenging every pitch that they get.
Speaker 1: On question from Ricky in the chat said Kratz and
Speaker 1: aj doms get mental health days if they just aren't
Speaker 1: at the right frame at times, like in the right
Speaker 1: frame of mind, they are human.
Speaker 5: Not that I know.
Speaker 6: If they get vacation though, you know what their mental
Speaker 6: health days are, and they get to go to New
Speaker 6: York for a week and sit in the room for
Speaker 6: three hours and maybe get one call in three hours,
Speaker 6: that's their mental health days. And they get vacations though,
Speaker 6: a lot of these guys get like two weeks off.
Speaker 6: I think in their week two week stints, I think
Speaker 6: where they get to go off, go home and hang
Speaker 6: out with their families and all that which everyone needs.
Speaker 6: So players don't even get that. So I think it's
Speaker 6: I think it's good, but they don't get mental health days.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's I don't think it's two weeks.
Speaker 2: I think they go. I think they go in a
Speaker 2: six week rotation.
Speaker 3: I think it's six weeks and then they skip a series,
Speaker 3: and then they go six weeks and they skip a series.
Speaker 3: Want one guy, so your crew kind of stays together,
Speaker 3: but then they're intermingling or dispersing the triple A guys
Speaker 3: who are getting called up to fill in. I think
Speaker 3: that's how I think that's how it is now, but
Speaker 3: I can't I can confirm that. But yes, they get
Speaker 3: time off, not mental health days that I know, but
Speaker 3: I'm sure that kind of stuff's I mean their employees,
Speaker 3: so they know and they do get health checks. Somebody
Speaker 3: asked me for about the I checks. I know the
Speaker 3: trainer who's in charge of all of the umpires, and
Speaker 3: they do the exact same checks that we do in
Speaker 3: spring training at the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: So they're checking all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean there's like a standard you have to have
Speaker 3: twenty twenty vision or something.
Speaker 8: A lot of times when a player is called up
Speaker 8: to the majors, the first question is is he ready
Speaker 8: for the big leagues. Well, with Owen Casey, who's getting
Speaker 8: called up by the Cubs, if he's not ready now,
Speaker 8: I don't know when he'll be ready. He has almost
Speaker 8: one thousand Triple A plate appearances, he has almost fifteen
Speaker 8: hundred Double A and Triple A plate appearances. He's been
Speaker 8: in Triple A for quite a while. He's been performing.
Speaker 8: He's ready, So what can you expect from him if
Speaker 8: he gets regular at bats. The crazy part of this
Speaker 8: is is that I would know that Triple a's not
Speaker 8: as challenging as the big leagues, obviously, but if you say,
Speaker 8: what has he done in Triple A this year? It's
Speaker 8: been really be almost a perfect analog for what Bryce
Speaker 8: Harper is doing in the big leagues. Bryce Harper striking
Speaker 8: out a little bit less, walking about the same rate
Speaker 8: as ow In Casey is in Triple A.
Speaker 2: In Triple a's.
Speaker 8: Easier, But when you talk about how hard they hit
Speaker 8: the ball, it's basically identical average EV max EV barrel rate,
Speaker 8: hard hit rate, all these things are very similar. And
Speaker 8: I would say that if you're looking for Casey to
Speaker 8: mash against right handers, I think that that's very much
Speaker 8: what he's ready to do. The one question will be
Speaker 8: is if you want him to play against lefties. That's
Speaker 8: a little bit more of a question. He's really more
Speaker 8: of an opposite field hitter who's just trying to survive
Speaker 8: against lefties. You don't see the same power against lefties
Speaker 8: that he has against right handers. But Owen Casey has
Speaker 8: been ready for a while now, and if he gets
Speaker 8: some runway here, it'll be interesting to see what he
Speaker 8: can do for the Cubs.
Speaker 1: Tweet it out, Michael JJ Cooper said, Owen Casey is
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper. Good stuff from JJ. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: him out on Baseball America Hotchie, baseball america dot com.
Speaker 1: But this is a twenty three year old. He's getting
Speaker 1: called up, he's Canadian. He's getting called up for the
Speaker 1: Cup series against the Blue Jays, finishing that one up
Speaker 1: with a getaway day game. But hey, aj, I know
Speaker 1: the question mark is where is he going to play?
Speaker 1: The question mark also, but they held on to him,
Speaker 1: and I think they could have dealt him for a
Speaker 1: starter at the deadline, so there is some extra pressure
Speaker 1: on him.
Speaker 5: Where's he play? Scott? Where's he played? That's all I
Speaker 5: want to know? Left field? Who's left field? Ian Ha?
Speaker 5: Who's centerfield? Pca? Who's right field? Kyle Tucker? We're zooki
Speaker 5: DH Yeah, where do you play him?
Speaker 6: Where's he going to get playing time? It's cool story.
Speaker 6: Happy for you, Ow and Casey. We interviewed in spring
Speaker 6: training at the Clutchhouse. You're awesome, Alana, and I sat
Speaker 6: down with you for a long time.
Speaker 5: You were great.
Speaker 6: But if he doesn't get regular bats, then what's the point.
Speaker 6: I don't know, unless someone's hurt that we don't know about.
Speaker 6: We're missing something here, crowds, Am I wrong?
Speaker 1: The Brewers cannot lose a game. Now they're playing the
Speaker 1: Pirates at the moment, one of the worst teams in baseball.
Speaker 1: But still the Brewers cannot lose a game, right now?
Speaker 1: Make it twelve in a row for Milwaukee. Hey, they
Speaker 1: at least made it a little sweaty mid game. Brian
Speaker 1: Reynolds put on a show. He was a one man
Speaker 1: wrecking crew. I think it was back to back innings
Speaker 1: when he had a two run homer and a three
Speaker 1: run homer. But then eventually kratzyr Old boys pulled away again.
Speaker 2: And they do it all.
Speaker 3: They do it all, and everyone's like, ah, no way
Speaker 3: they can continue this.
Speaker 2: How can they do that?
Speaker 3: They don't hit enough home runs, but the name of
Speaker 3: the game is scoring runs. The Great Or as they
Speaker 3: call him now, they had a T shirt King Vaughan.
Speaker 3: Andrew Vaughn had a squeeze bunt to put the team
Speaker 3: up five to one instead of four to one. I
Speaker 3: think it was first and third and he squeezed against
Speaker 3: Andrew Heeney, so he had the advantage left right and
Speaker 3: he still was able to just what get an RBI
Speaker 3: drive the run in. They're winning ball games and it's
Speaker 3: twelve in a row. It's it's Uker magic. As all
Speaker 3: the signs, as all the signs in the stadium are saying.
Speaker 1: Company that gives away the Burgers agents getting the George
Speaker 1: Webb it's called. I don't know a lot about all that.
Speaker 6: Maybe I don't like the Canadian place because the Canadian
Speaker 6: what's the Tim Hortons. George Webb's like Tim Hortons of Milwaukee.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's what's called. I don't wanted
Speaker 3: to fame the I don't want to fame the Burger company.
Speaker 2: Find it for me, Scott, because we were all type
Speaker 2: George Webin.
Speaker 1: There's articles everywhere Milwaukee George Webburger giveaway. What you need
Speaker 1: to know, when, where, and how to get a free
Speaker 1: George Webberger. George Webb sets the time and date for
Speaker 1: free burger giveaway. Again, like I'm not plugged into every
Speaker 1: local giveaway scene. We just watched the Brewers every night
Speaker 1: and now a lot of the postgame chats were about
Speaker 1: how the Brewer is gonna get fans free burgers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a restaurant thought I thought it was
Speaker 1: when he was playing for Milwaukee. No, it's a restaurant
Speaker 1: chain in Milwaukee. They announced on August fourteenth, or well
Speaker 1: that's today. They announced where fans can get the burgers.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see when they initially came up with
Speaker 1: this thing. I don't know if I will, but anyway,
Speaker 1: I guess the promotion that they have is Okay.
Speaker 5: Here it is the George Web Local Train in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Our founder made the bold prediction of twelve games in
Speaker 1: a row back in the nineteen forties. It's only been
Speaker 1: realized three times in company history. And so that's the
Speaker 1: thing that they run where they'll give out free burgers.
Speaker 1: They said that in twenty eighteen when it happened, they
Speaker 1: gave away ninety thousand free burgers plus one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: redeemable vouchers. Wow. So whatever it is, I don't care
Speaker 1: if Lord burgers.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we don't know.
Speaker 6: People aren't just people aren't just going to Buddy Web.
Speaker 6: What's it called, George Webb.
Speaker 5: George Web. It's a funny name. I have a friend
Speaker 5: named Buddy Web. That's why I kicked it.
Speaker 1: It's like an accountant, but George Web.
Speaker 5: Yeh. But everyone goes. They're not just gonna go and
Speaker 5: get a burger.
Speaker 6: They're gonna get a shake and some fries and something else,
Speaker 6: maybe a piece of pie, and then someone else has
Speaker 6: to get something. So it's a great It's like Mattress
Speaker 6: Mac in Houston, Right, he gets all this attention, but
Speaker 6: I mean he doesn't really lose money when he does
Speaker 6: all that. I mean he hedges his bets and all that,
Speaker 6: so I mean he's smart.
Speaker 5: It's good marketing, good for the people in Milwaukee.
Speaker 6: And you know what, go get your free burger people
Speaker 6: in Milwaukee, because you deserve it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was there at eighteen. I mean I was
Speaker 3: there at eighteen. I just didn't remember it was called
Speaker 3: George Webb, but I remember Counts was talking about it
Speaker 3: and he was like, he's like, yeah, if we win,
Speaker 3: because if we had beaten the Rockies the last game
Speaker 3: of the third game in LDS, that would have been
Speaker 3: our twelfth win or maybe it was the first game
Speaker 3: of Dodgers whatever it was. That's when we got in
Speaker 3: twelve in a row. Is at the end of the season.
Speaker 3: There was so much chatter about it. It's funny that
Speaker 3: I forget the name of the of the place, but
Speaker 3: there was so much chatter about it, like the city.
Speaker 3: The city was obviously on its head because of the
Speaker 3: fact that, you know, we were moving on to the NLCS,
Speaker 3: but the fact that they were getting burgers and all
Speaker 3: the locations.
Speaker 2: I just didn't remember that was the name of the place.
Speaker 1: That's a tough name. I would call Webby's or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, no offense, and maybe I'm going to get
Speaker 1: smashed for that, but it sounds like, Oh, I'm going
Speaker 1: to get my taxes done with George Webb.
Speaker 5: But anyway, by the way, you guys swept the Rockies
Speaker 5: that year.
Speaker 6: Because I flew to Colorado and I had to stop
Speaker 6: in Houston because we didn't have that game. So I
Speaker 6: was on the plane and I was texting my producer
Speaker 6: and I said, do I really have to go? Because
Speaker 6: it was like four nothing to was earned slam range
Speaker 6: in Colorado right when they closed the doors, and I
Speaker 6: couldn't get off the plane. In Orlando anymore, someone hit
Speaker 6: a grand slam and it was eight nothing, and I
Speaker 6: was like, Oh, luckily I had to stop in Houston.
Speaker 1: Let's slap and we'll play a trivia game. I like this.
Speaker 1: The Padres starting lineup the last time that they were
Speaker 1: in sole possession of first place in the NLS. This
Speaker 1: late in the season. If you are, if you saw
Speaker 1: it already, then I don't want you to play. But
Speaker 1: if you haven't, I'll give you the date. September twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty ten against the Reds. So you guys were both
Speaker 1: Big League in it. Maybe you remember, I mean.
Speaker 3: That was that was That was one of the first
Speaker 3: teams I played against. So yeah, I can you want
Speaker 3: the starting lineup or you want pitchers?
Speaker 1: No, I want starting lineup. I want the batters. I
Speaker 1: want the position.
Speaker 3: Because I was thinking Green team. Who Khalil Green on
Speaker 3: the team? I don't think he was on that team.
Speaker 3: They had like Will Vennable, they had Adrian Gonzalez, Chase
Speaker 3: Headley was playing third.
Speaker 2: Was Nick Huntley on that team?
Speaker 1: Yep? Catching second base? David Eckstein, it's x Stein, x
Speaker 1: Stein oops shortstop Miguel Tejada.
Speaker 2: What I wouldn't have gotten one.
Speaker 1: I would not have gotten that one. Either you said
Speaker 1: Ludwick or no Scott?
Speaker 2: Who was who was? Oh? Ryan Ludwig was playing left field?
Speaker 2: Who was the Scot?
Speaker 1: Nobody quit because it was the National League. I'm old
Speaker 1: enough to know. I'm old enough to remember when the
Speaker 1: National League didn't have a DH and that caused Shoeo
Speaker 1: Tani to sign with the Angels and not the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: True story that bullpen was ridiculous. Heath Bell, Trevor Hoffman,
Speaker 3: Tim Staffer.
Speaker 5: In Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: Then, uh, yes, you're because I played both of them.
Speaker 3: I played both of them my my first like two
Speaker 3: of three series or something in the big leagues.
Speaker 2: He was Milwaukee, Gregson was out there.
Speaker 6: They had Stammond Craig was his name is Stanmon Craig Stamon,
Speaker 6: the guy who didn't the guy who didn't build bend
Speaker 6: his leg?
Speaker 5: Remember him?
Speaker 1: I thought it was yeah, Stammon and Stammon. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they were on the same team. But there's
Speaker 1: the lineup for you, the starting nine, Oscar Salazar in fields.
Speaker 1: But otherwise you guys did a good job there, Krafts.
Speaker 1: We got thirty seconds too. So let's get a card
Speaker 1: guard quick on the way out, hard guard on Garland,
Speaker 1: your boy.
Speaker 2: This is one of my gifts.
Speaker 3: The other one of my gifts that one of my
Speaker 3: best friends in all of ft A J.
Speaker 2: Prazinski got me. Wow, I'll start game. I really like it.
Speaker 5: I do too, I like them.
Speaker 3: I gotta be careful though. There's there's there's dots. You
Speaker 3: can't see it. There's like the small holes in the back.
Speaker 3: Now with this head, Now with this head, you gonna
Speaker 3: put some Sundale Locean on.
Speaker 2: But that's okay. It's a nice hat. It's so light.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: I hope I get one from every team. Players and
Speaker 3: weekend hats coming up maybe differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. I didn't know, did we? Oh now
Speaker 1: we're intern Okay, cool?
Speaker 5: Are they different the new air? Do players weekend?
Speaker 2: Oh they're allowed to be to me, just allow them
Speaker 2: to players?
Speaker 1: Weekend is this weekend or next weekend?
Speaker 5: So they just have their numbers on the side. I guess.
Speaker 2: It started.
Speaker 5: No, they're but they they're selling them already.
Speaker 6: So like New York has a ninety nine Judge hat,
Speaker 6: stuff like that in all different scripts.
Speaker 2: Do they have Do they have a thirty eight hat?
Speaker 5: I don't know. Judge is the first one that pops up.
Speaker 2: And then so obviously.
Speaker 6: Lacuna, Freed, Matt Olson, Bragman, Yamamoto, Alonso.
Speaker 3: So not everybody gets the players, but hey, you get
Speaker 3: nicknames on the back. You get to customize your tweets.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, everybody does that anyway.
Speaker 5: Oh, they're going back to nicknames on the back this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the way happening. That's that's what Players we
Speaker 1: Can is all about. Remember last year they couldn't do
Speaker 1: it because of the C three uniforms.
Speaker 6: But by the way, today's speaking of nicknames. Happy birthday
Speaker 6: j Want Pierre beist Mode. He was the one that
Speaker 6: originally came up with beast Mode, not Marshawn Lynch. I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: but yes, Happy birthday JP Gogeaters, big LSU fan.
Speaker 3: Happy birthday Giovanni Gegos too. Not many know who that is,
Speaker 3: but yeah, Clay Buckle, it's a good name.
Speaker 1: Today, I'll give you the guest list for tomorrow. Ken
Speaker 1: Rosenthal Kenny Ball game back first time in a minute, right,
Speaker 1: he's back from a little break and he did Fair
Speaker 1: Territory today if you want to catch that later. Noah
Speaker 1: Cinderguard tomorrow.
Speaker 5: He's still pitching.
Speaker 1: He signed with the.
Speaker 5: With the White Sox. But I thought they got I
Speaker 5: thought they released them. But I don't know that answer.
Speaker 1: We'll look it up between now and then. Excited to
Speaker 1: talk to Thor and Miles. Michael is back on the show.
Speaker 1: Like it's been a minute. Miles is one of the
Speaker 1: better guests in the sport coming off a really nice outing.
Speaker 1: I watched some of it the other day for the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: That was the win they had against the Rockies. The
Speaker 1: next couple games did not go as well for them.
Speaker 1: But anyway, good show.
Speaker 3: Today, Thanks Scott, A great show you too.
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