Speaker 1: Show me the money.
Speaker 2: Oh Hevanralik and his terrible mustache is joining us right
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Speaker 2: Yesterday it was announcing New York Yankees reached a deal
Speaker 2: with Apollo Sports Capital. We're investing two point six billion
Speaker 2: in the parent company the New York Yankees. What do
Speaker 2: you say on this, Evandralic?
Speaker 3: And does it how much?
Speaker 2: This means the Yankees are worth ten plus billion because
Speaker 2: they can only invest a certain amount right into a team.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Private equity groups are limited in how much they
Speaker 1: can invest into a single team. It's one group can
Speaker 1: have no more than fifteen percent of a single team,
Speaker 1: and you cannot have more than thirty percent between multiple
Speaker 1: firms for one team. This is a little bit complicated
Speaker 1: because the transaction, the two point six billion dollars is
Speaker 1: an investment in the parent company of the Yankees. It's
Speaker 1: called Yankee Global Enterprises, so that includes the Yankees, but
Speaker 1: it is not only the Yankees. That parent company has
Speaker 1: a slice in ac Milan NYCFC, another soccer team. They
Speaker 1: operate some of the Yes network. So what my reporting
Speaker 1: showed two sources who said this values the Yankees themselves
Speaker 1: at close to ten billion dollars. So that might ultimately
Speaker 1: be nine points something billion, which is somewhat in line
Speaker 1: with one of the public projections I think with Sportico
Speaker 1: in the spring peg the Yankees at nine point four billion.
Speaker 1: What's the bottom line here. It gives the Yankees some cash.
Speaker 1: It is an infusion of money for what is still
Speaker 1: ultimately a family run team. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: now these family run teams, the only place you can
Speaker 1: kind of turn is to what's called institutional investors, the
Speaker 1: private equity firm. And we're seeing it across baseball. We're
Speaker 1: seeing it across the other leagues, the continued interests that
Speaker 1: these private equity groups have in getting their hand into
Speaker 1: the pot that keeps growing in baseball.
Speaker 4: All right, stay with me here, we're gonna put on
Speaker 4: this We're gonna put on this hat.
Speaker 3: There was this idea.
Speaker 4: That when Trek Scuba went to the Dodgers across the
Speaker 4: league that a small market team like the Detroit Tigers
Speaker 4: are allowing the Dodgers to go out and win so
Speaker 4: they can hopefully get a lockout in a salary cap.
Speaker 4: Now you have a team like the New York Yankees,
Speaker 4: are they flexing on the other owners because there is
Speaker 4: this idea that the lockout is Yes, it's between the
Speaker 4: owners and the players, but there's a lot of different
Speaker 4: layers of ownership group somewhat the salary cap. Teams like
Speaker 4: the Yankees in a big market probably don't want the
Speaker 4: salary cap. Is this an idea of the Yankees flexing
Speaker 4: and being like, we don't want a salary cap? This
Speaker 4: is actually and they're kind of in order for a
Speaker 4: private equity team to invest in them, they have to
Speaker 4: open the books so they know this team is profitable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much they open the books is an interesting
Speaker 1: question because Rob Manford at the All Star Game you're
Speaker 1: talking to reporters said that they're very limited in the
Speaker 1: information they give. Obviously, there's got to be some information
Speaker 1: that flows, But to the larger question, is this flexing.
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of yesterday trying to sort through
Speaker 1: kind of the dueling narratives of this. On one side,
Speaker 1: you've got I talked to Joel Wolfe to Scott Boris,
Speaker 1: you to top agents who are saying, look, this shows
Speaker 1: the health of the business. If the Yankees are getting
Speaker 1: two point six billion dollars or the parent company the
Speaker 1: Yankees is getting that amount of money, things are going
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's hard to sneeze at that amount of money.
Speaker 1: And then on the other side you have people who
Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, the fact that they needed
Speaker 1: or wanted the cash at all, what does that tell you?
Speaker 1: And also if still if you look out a the
Speaker 1: NBA and the NFL, these franchises are valued higher. And
Speaker 1: then today we have news that the Lakers are being
Speaker 1: sold now for twelve billion, which is you know, the Lakers,
Speaker 1: I believe the highest valued franchise in the NBA. Could
Speaker 1: be wrong on that, and the Yankees still are the
Speaker 1: highest valued franchise in baseball. And so you have the
Speaker 1: basketball one trading at higher than the baseball one. It's
Speaker 1: a feeling on the ownership side that yeah, this is
Speaker 1: this is good, but it could be better. And that's
Speaker 1: the argument for a cap that they're making is not
Speaker 1: necessarily that it's bad, although some people do try to
Speaker 1: swing it that way, but that it could be a
Speaker 1: lot better. That if you look at the other leagues.
Speaker 1: It should it should be even more than this. And
Speaker 1: then on the player side, it's you guys are doing fine.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Your valuation is now close
Speaker 1: to ten billion dollars? What are you complaining about?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Evan, does this mean the Yankees are poor?
Speaker 5: Is it?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 6: I just?
Speaker 3: I mean? And what does what role does this change
Speaker 3: for the Steying in her family?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: Is?
Speaker 3: How does this change how's role?
Speaker 2: Does Apollo get any stake in making decisions? Or are
Speaker 2: they just investing cash to try to help the Yankees
Speaker 2: get out of debt so someone can go buy something
Speaker 2: a new jet or something. Right, Because I don't a
Speaker 2: lot of people, including myself, don't know enough about this
Speaker 2: to understand what this truly means. Can you explain it
Speaker 2: in you know, polish dumb people terms, please?
Speaker 1: Yeah. The most simple is they they now have more
Speaker 1: cash on hand. The question, the heart of it, what
Speaker 1: you're asking, is, well, what do they want that for?
Speaker 1: And that at this point is a little bit of
Speaker 1: informed speculation. I talked to some people who have some
Speaker 1: knowledge of the deal who said that this isn't because
Speaker 1: there's some big thing coming up, Although it was noted that, look,
Speaker 1: if you're going to go into a long lockout, doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt to have more cash on hand. The Yankees do
Speaker 1: have a lot of debt from the stadium construction, that's
Speaker 1: still a part of it, and a lot of teams
Speaker 1: have debt here, and so ultimately, you know, how the
Speaker 1: Steinbrenner family wants to use this money. Is this to
Speaker 1: satisfy demands or requests from other members of the family.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you have family run teams, you end up
Speaker 1: with a lot of hands out basically, you know, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it can lead to teams being sold. Fully, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that's going to happen here. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of reasons it could be, but it doesn't seem that
Speaker 1: the answer at this point. There's no evidence to this
Speaker 1: point that the answer is the Yankees are truly cash
Speaker 1: poor and absolutely needed a liquidity. It could be as
Speaker 1: simple as they liked the valuation they got. If somebody
Speaker 1: is willing to pay at your market rate or maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit above it. In the case of the Yankees,
Speaker 1: if you're approaching ten billion dollars, you might say, okay,
Speaker 1: come on in, we'll we'll take that money. Now. The
Speaker 1: interesting question a little bit is well, if the owners
Speaker 1: get a salary cap, those values are going to go up.
Speaker 1: And so if they waited a year year, maybe they
Speaker 1: could even get more if indeed the owner's got a cap.
Speaker 1: But that's no promise they get a cap. And part
Speaker 1: of the appeal right now, if you're a private equity
Speaker 1: group trying to get involved with baseball, is well, if
Speaker 1: they get a cap, my investment will go up right away.
Speaker 1: They they see the earning potential with a cap in
Speaker 1: the near future. And so you know which of those
Speaker 1: forces really motivated the Yankees. We just aren't totally sure
Speaker 1: at this point. But it doesn't seem like they, you know,
Speaker 1: were unable to write checks or anything like that. Certainly
Speaker 1: certainly no evidence of.
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Speaker 4: From the player side and the Players Association side, is
Speaker 4: this great timing because I think franchise values are always
Speaker 4: kind of implied, but when you actually get concrete evidence
Speaker 4: the padre selling for what they sold for and then
Speaker 4: this investment to the Yankees. Is this great timing for
Speaker 4: the Players Association?
Speaker 1: I think it's it gives a compelling narrative talking point
Speaker 1: to look the Joe wolfsm Scott or so. I talked
Speaker 1: to you guys today, to Bruce Meyer, the head of
Speaker 1: the Union, and I think it should be eye opening
Speaker 1: to players that this amount of money and these valuations
Speaker 1: are coming in to club owners. It's kind of an
Speaker 1: incontrovertible fact that these franchises are worth a lot of money.
Speaker 1: It doesn't out of hand defeat an argument of well,
Speaker 1: could it be better? None of this conversation should be around.
Speaker 1: Is it truly bad? I think it's hard to argue
Speaker 1: anything that's selling in the billions is bad, even in
Speaker 1: a relative sense that the owner arguments center on it
Speaker 1: could be better. The other leagues are are making more.
Speaker 1: There's something called revenue multiple. So when the NBA and
Speaker 1: NFL franchises sell, they might sell for ten, eleven, twelve
Speaker 1: times what they bring in annually, and in baseball that's
Speaker 1: been six times seven times. And you got the small
Speaker 1: market owners who will go, well, all right, the Yankees
Speaker 1: got that, but what about us, you know, the Washington
Speaker 1: Nationals I believe in. You know, in recent years, their
Speaker 1: value has, according to the public lists like Forbes, appreciated
Speaker 1: the least. You know, So even if the Yankees and
Speaker 1: the Dodgers are doing well. It still kind of fits
Speaker 1: in with that narrative that they have of the haves
Speaker 1: and the have nots. But yeah, for the player purposes,
Speaker 1: for the union purposes to be able to say, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of money over there, what's the problem. There's
Speaker 1: certainly some validity to that argument.
Speaker 3: Heavan.
Speaker 2: Every sport has differences. The Lakers sold for twelve billion, Whoever,
Speaker 2: the next team in the NBA won't sell for that much.
Speaker 2: So it just depends the Cowboys are worth more than
Speaker 2: another team, and they're in salary cap leagues. So that
Speaker 2: that argument is is.
Speaker 3: What it is.
Speaker 2: It's going to be made repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly, whatever. But
Speaker 2: how much does this franchise of valuation? How much is
Speaker 2: that going to factor do you think into the CBA?
Speaker 2: You kind of hit on a little bit. But isn't
Speaker 2: this the biggest thing? Because if they do get a
Speaker 2: salary cap, it'll make their franchise values go more. Then
Speaker 2: they can borrow against the franchise values to do other things.
Speaker 2: So how important is this franchise evaluation? And now with
Speaker 2: the Yankees setting the bar at I guess ten billion ish,
Speaker 2: you know whatever. However, you want to play with the numbers, right,
Speaker 2: So how much does this matter in the CBA.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, just to your first point real quick there, Aja, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can make an argument that, well, if you wanted
Speaker 1: a basketball or hockey or basketball or football type of valuation,
Speaker 1: you should have bought a basketball or football franchise, right, true,
Speaker 1: And I think there is some tension around even inside
Speaker 1: of baseball the big markets in the small markets, where
Speaker 1: when you buy a big market franchise, you are buying
Speaker 1: the set of rights and grants that come with that
Speaker 1: big market. And you know this evening of the playing
Speaker 1: field idea, well Scott wors talks about it a lot,
Speaker 1: but there's some validity to it. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to let your best owners run free and have the
Speaker 1: ability to separate themselves to some degree. But that said,
Speaker 1: in a cap system, all of the franchises would benefit.
Speaker 1: And that gets to what you're asking about with with
Speaker 1: franchise values. If you have fixed labor costs, if you know,
Speaker 1: going in every year, how much money you're going to
Speaker 1: spend on labor, and by the league argument, if things
Speaker 1: are just a little bit more equal and the small
Speaker 1: markets are kind of propped up a bit. Well, then
Speaker 1: you know it lifts all the boats. All the franchise
Speaker 1: values go up. Here when you're talking about a workstoppage
Speaker 1: and you're talking about potentially missing billions of dollars, you
Speaker 1: don't miss billions of dollars in revenue unless you think
Speaker 1: in the long run it will make you billions of
Speaker 1: dollars and some x number more. And so as much
Speaker 1: as the league frames everything around competitive balance, it is
Speaker 1: about money. And if you at a cap, if you're
Speaker 1: the owners, you make your franchises instantly more valuable. But
Speaker 1: it's not the easiest thing to say we're going to
Speaker 1: sacrifice the short term for the long term. Everybody can
Speaker 1: kind of think that's a nice idea, but there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pain that it would take to go through
Speaker 1: with that. But yeah, the franchise values are a central
Speaker 1: piece of all this. If you remember four five years ago,
Speaker 1: right after the last CBA, Manford convened this group called
Speaker 1: the Economic Reform Committee, And what he said last year
Speaker 1: at a Brave Public Investor invent was that the purpose
Speaker 1: of that was to look at franchise values. And so
Speaker 1: it is a like he's the CEO of Baseball, Rob
Speaker 1: Manford if you're the CEO of baseball, one of your,
Speaker 1: if not the top concern is what is the worth
Speaker 1: of the company of the assets, its shareholder value? You
Speaker 1: know it is. I don't think it's a stretch to
Speaker 1: say the most important thing.
Speaker 4: All right, I got one final question for you, and
Speaker 4: to forgive my being naive on this topic, how long
Speaker 4: has private equity been in the game of baseball? And
Speaker 4: do you see more teams taking loans from private equity
Speaker 4: selling shares of private equity? And would it be a
Speaker 4: bad idea for a small quote unquote small market team
Speaker 4: to take money from a private equity team, because then
Speaker 4: we would actually really know what the franchise value is.
Speaker 1: I believe the first year this was allowed in baseball
Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen. It might have been twenty eighteen, but
Speaker 1: it was right before the start of the pandemic that
Speaker 1: Baseball and then the other leagues started to allow private
Speaker 1: equity in. And you know, they put this cap on
Speaker 1: it so that they don't theoretically have a lot of
Speaker 1: sway over or ideally any sway over the ultimate decision making. Right,
Speaker 1: the pe firm cannot be the controlling partner, you know,
Speaker 1: the one person vote when they have all the you know,
Speaker 1: an all thirty club vote. But what could happen over
Speaker 1: time here is that the leagues could change their rules
Speaker 1: and say, okay, we'll let somebody in at a higher percentage.
Speaker 1: Even at this percentage, I think there's some background concern of, well,
Speaker 1: how will this affect the operation of teams long term?
Speaker 1: PE gets involved to eventually make money there is there's
Speaker 1: also some glamour with it. You know, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a trophy asset for your for your fund if you're
Speaker 1: involved in it. So it's not apples to apples with
Speaker 1: everything else that private equity gets involved with. But at
Speaker 1: some point they're going to want to return, and so
Speaker 1: that puts pressure on the league to do things like
Speaker 1: get a salary cap and whatever other ways. You know
Speaker 1: that the PE firm might say, hey, could we try
Speaker 1: to make some more money here? You know, should should
Speaker 1: teams take it? Well? Teams love to make money, uh,
Speaker 1: and if you can get a cash infusion from an
Speaker 1: institutional investor, a lot of them are going to go,
Speaker 1: well why not? This might raise our franchise values. And
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases now the teams sell for
Speaker 1: so much that it's not super easy, or as easy
Speaker 1: as it might have once been, to find people who
Speaker 1: can afford to buy into these teams as individuals. You know,
Speaker 1: it almost takes a group of people these days, or
Speaker 1: at least kind of the help of an institution, to
Speaker 1: be able to get these deals done. As these things
Speaker 1: keep climbing and climbing. So yeah, if you want your
Speaker 1: franchise values to climb, you can. If you can find
Speaker 1: a PE firm that'll buy it by a slice of
Speaker 1: your team at a higher rate than you might have
Speaker 1: otherwise thought you could get, you're probably gonna do it
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Well perfect, we're gonna get Pe to invest in Foul Territory.
Speaker 2: I heard they're going to put it give us about
Speaker 2: a billion, Evan, So.
Speaker 3: We're all set. Thanks a, Paula. We love you, guys.
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon. Devan.
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Speaker 3: So thanks Evan.
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Speaker 9: All right, boy? We needed that one. That was a
Speaker 9: good game. Welcome back, everybody. Game one hundred and twenty
Speaker 9: is in the books. The Yankees win this one with
Speaker 9: an offensive outburst like we have not seen from them
Speaker 9: in quite a while. Ten runs. They win this one,
Speaker 9: ten to five. There's a lot of action in this game.
Speaker 9: This felt like an actual baseball game and not like
Speaker 9: a soccer match. Pretty fun game. I love the way
Speaker 9: ESPN was mixing the sound tonight. Normally I'm not an
Speaker 9: ESPN fan, but the way they put the emphasis in
Speaker 9: the sound mixing on the bat contact, that was awesome.
Speaker 9: I mean that was awesome tonight. Just a kudo to
Speaker 9: their production team. Great night for Spencer Jones, who had,
Speaker 9: in my opinion, his best night in the Major League
Speaker 9: so far. He had a really good at pat to
Speaker 9: before lining a double off the left field wall. He
Speaker 9: had two hits tonight, two doubles and three RBI, so
Speaker 9: a very good night for Spencer Jones. Getting more comfortable.
Speaker 9: We had two home runs tonight from mister Trent Grisham,
Speaker 9: who is beginning to heat up. I mentioned it before
Speaker 9: the series that he was hitting the ball harder last night.
Speaker 9: I mentioned the contact from him has been louder and tonight,
Speaker 9: the contact was really loud, even with the ESPN cameras
Speaker 9: boosting it a little bit. Three for five, two home runs,
Speaker 9: four RBIs, three runs scored, got the average up to
Speaker 9: two twenty two to fifteen home runs and fifty RBIs.
Speaker 9: Now for the mustachioed one, however, I will say there
Speaker 9: was a pop up to center field, and I don't
Speaker 9: know what was going on. I don't know if he
Speaker 9: was finishing a game of words with friends or something
Speaker 9: like that, but he took forever to charge in on
Speaker 9: a routine pop up that he should have been camped under,
Speaker 9: and it did not look like Will Warren appreciated it
Speaker 9: very much. He also had a double, go ahead double,
Speaker 9: So good night for him, Rocky night for Will Warren.
Speaker 9: What can you say about him?
Speaker 1: Time to stop throwing these game.
Speaker 9: Bars, five runs, four walks and three home runs for
Speaker 9: Will Warren, who was probably moving to the bullpen in
Speaker 9: the pretty near future. But we had the first major
Speaker 9: league error from George Lombard Junior. But he also had
Speaker 9: a couple of rope absolute line drive singles. As he
Speaker 9: continues to impress every single day. Even when he makes
Speaker 9: an error, he does something impressive multi hit game. Now
Speaker 9: in his limited major league duty, hitting three twenty with
Speaker 9: two home runs, two RBIs in a one to sixty
Speaker 9: six WRC plus, he has struck out of the time,
Speaker 9: still looking for that first double, that first triple, and
Speaker 9: that first stolen base. Three ninety three on base percentage.
Speaker 9: He's shown a really patient eye, and aside from the air,
Speaker 9: he's looked fantastic at shortstop. But errors happen. Everybody's gonna
Speaker 9: make airrors. Don't worry about it. You had a number
Speaker 9: of extra base hits tonight. Austin Wells ripped a double.
Speaker 9: You had Rice not gonna run by the way wearing
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Speaker 9: Yankees turned a couple of double plays tonight, and when
Speaker 9: the dust settled, they had themselves a ten to five win,
Speaker 9: Paul Blackburn with the w Gabe Spear with the loss,
Speaker 9: and Paul Blackburn sporting a one point nine zero ERA
Speaker 9: this season. I did not anticipate that he has really, really,
Speaker 9: really been good. We got a couple of comments here,
Speaker 9: Tyler Revas says Ramos two for twenty four. Stince being
Speaker 9: with the Yankees. Since coming with the Yankee coming to
Speaker 9: the Yankees, he has not been great. And he had
Speaker 9: another tough night tonight. And the way that Spencer Jones
Speaker 9: is picking it up, and the way that Trent Grisham
Speaker 9: is picking it up, you wonder if when Bellinger comes back,
Speaker 9: if Ramos is gonna become that fourth outfielder on the bench.
Speaker 9: OH for three in this game tonight. Has not done
Speaker 9: much since being acquired from the San Francisco Giants at
Speaker 9: the trade deadline. All right, let's talk about the good, bad,
Speaker 9: and the ugly. So Trent Grisham gets a gold Star tonight,
Speaker 9: three hits and two dingers, Ben Rice multi hit games,
Speaker 9: Spencer Jones with a great night, Garcia had a tough
Speaker 9: night oh for four, and Ramos so the new guys
Speaker 9: oh for seven combined. Jazz one for three with a walk.
Speaker 9: Ryan McMahon continues to heat up a little bit. He
Speaker 9: had a double Wells with another extra base hit, and
Speaker 9: then George Lombard Junior with a multi hit game. Good
Speaker 9: day for the Yankees offense and runs. All right, so
Speaker 9: let's get to the nitty gritty and kind of go
Speaker 9: through the main takeaways here. First off, the bullpen deserves
Speaker 9: a ton of credit. Tonight Warren obviously did not have it,
Speaker 9: but Tim Hill, Paul Blackburn, and Brent Hedrick were all dealing.
Speaker 9: Hendrick has been amazing, just amazing this season. What can
Speaker 9: you say about the guy? Total surprise, total surprise. And
Speaker 9: tonight another scoreless inning with three punches. Deal Santos also
Speaker 9: threw a scoreless inning, although he allowed two hits. Also
Speaker 9: with this Yankees win, they don't gain any ground on
Speaker 9: the Rays because the Rays won today too, but they
Speaker 9: do gain on the Boston Red Sox and Boston Red
Speaker 9: Sox have hit a little bit of a skid after
Speaker 9: that unbelievable hot streak. Randy and ross Arena and Julio
Speaker 9: Rodriguez opposite field home runs in the first inning off
Speaker 9: of Warren. You knew it wasn't gonna be Warren's night.
Speaker 9: At that point, Kevin lar was like, you know, let's
Speaker 9: probably not a home run in a lot of stadiums. Meanwhile,
Speaker 9: the ball's landing in the second deck. I think that
Speaker 9: the Julio's home run was probably a home run pretty
Speaker 9: much everywhere. In the second inning, you know, there's a
Speaker 9: pop up to center field. I don't know what Grishaan
Speaker 9: was doing. I mean, was he reading the newspaper? What
Speaker 9: was he doing? He was taken all day to react
Speaker 9: to that pop up. It was like that scene in
Speaker 9: Nightmare and Elm Street where Freddy is chasing Nancy up
Speaker 9: the stairs and the stairs turn to like quicksand this
Speaker 9: like mushy oatmeal goo, and she can't get up the
Speaker 9: stairs and Freddy's chasing her. That's what I think. I
Speaker 9: think Christiaan was having a Freddy nightmare. He could not run,
Speaker 9: but he did make up for it with his bat.
Speaker 9: Big home run to cut the lead in the fifth inning,
Speaker 9: swung at the first pitch, no doubter, a lot more
Speaker 9: hard contact, go ahead double in the seventh, and a
Speaker 9: two run shot in the eighth.
Speaker 5: League.
Speaker 9: Choose that building up the little so some positives and
Speaker 9: some negatives. Will the negative hold him back from getting
Speaker 9: the belt we'll see in just a minute. Don't change
Speaker 9: that station. McMahon been swinging it better lately, ripped in
Speaker 9: RBI double. Let's take a look at McMahon's numbers as
Speaker 9: we zoom out on him a little bit, or zoom
Speaker 9: in on him. So two for four in this game
Speaker 9: with an RBI now hitting two twenty ten home run
Speaker 9: six to sixty three ops eighty four WRC plus, so
Speaker 9: you're taking a sixteen percent hit from league average offensively
Speaker 9: with him, but he does give you a lot defensively
Speaker 9: on base percentage I wish was higher with him. The
Speaker 9: way he plays defense. I can tolerate a low average,
Speaker 9: but I want him to walk a little bit more,
Speaker 9: maybe hit for a little bit more power with a
Speaker 9: two twenty average. If you're playing good defense and you
Speaker 9: hit twenty five homers and get on base at a
Speaker 9: three to twenty clip, you'll take it. If you're playing
Speaker 9: great defense, that is. But we'd love to see him
Speaker 9: get hot. He got off to a slow start. We'll
Speaker 9: see how it shakes out. But been swinging the bat
Speaker 9: better lately. I love the double by Austin Wells in
Speaker 9: the third inning. It was a good He roped it
Speaker 9: into the right field corner, and all year long he's
Speaker 9: been swinging over that down and in pitch, and today
Speaker 9: he basically just pull his hands in and drop the
Speaker 9: barrel of the bat on it, and again it sounded fantastic.
Speaker 9: Austin Wells creeping up towards two hundred. Take a look
Speaker 9: at his numbers here, he is at one eighty, so
Speaker 9: not quite, but he's he's creeping. Let me know in
Speaker 9: the chat if you think Austin Wells is gonna get
Speaker 9: to two hundred with the average before the season is over.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean eight home runs seventeen RBIs obviously
Speaker 9: not productive this year. You just hope he can finish strong.
Speaker 9: He's not gonna hit thirty home runs. He's not gonna
Speaker 9: probably even hit fifteen home runs. Just finish strong, you had.
Speaker 9: Let's see Spencer Jones, in my opinion, the best game
Speaker 9: of his young career, the best a bat of his
Speaker 9: career was the out two runners on double in the
Speaker 9: third inning. Fouled off a ton of pitches. The announcers
Speaker 9: we're talking about how he never hits the ball well
Speaker 9: to left field. He waits on it. He drives that
Speaker 9: ball off the left field wall, and then he hit
Speaker 9: one off the right field wall later in the game,
Speaker 9: one oh five point nine off the bat, And I
Speaker 9: think he's beginning to realize that when he cuts back
Speaker 9: on his swing and just makes contact, that he's got
Speaker 9: the strength to do some damage. He's just so strong,
Speaker 9: and I like how everybody who sees him has an
Speaker 9: immediate opinion on why he can be better. Guys in
Speaker 9: the booth tonight saying, oh, just back off the plate
Speaker 9: six inches. You know, I'm sure the Yankees have looked
Speaker 9: at every possible way to get this guy going, because
Speaker 9: the athletic skills and the power is just so apparent.
Speaker 9: I never thought he had a chance to become Aaron Judge,
Speaker 9: and I still don't, but I do think he's got
Speaker 9: a chance to become the good version of Joey Gallo,
Speaker 9: a guy who hits like two thirty to forty at
Speaker 9: least because he hits the ball so hard, with forty
Speaker 9: plus home runs and outstanding defense on top of it.
Speaker 9: He has really impressed me more than anybody this year.
Speaker 9: He has been I mean, I shouldn't say impressed me
Speaker 9: more than anybody. Obviously guys are having better years, but
Speaker 9: from my expectations of him to what he's actually done,
Speaker 9: he's he's been better than I thought. And Grisham presumably
Speaker 9: beginning to heap back up. You wonder how the outfield
Speaker 9: situation is gonna work when Bellinger's back. I'd have to
Speaker 9: assume it's Grisham in center, Spencer Jones in right, and
Speaker 9: Bellinger in left, and Ramos to the bench, and then
Speaker 9: when Judge comes back, I guess you just play the
Speaker 9: hot hand in center field. So we'll see how it
Speaker 9: shakes out. But the Yankees win this one, Oh name Alter,
Speaker 9: Yankees win. Yank. All right, I'm gonna give Grisham the belt,
Speaker 9: but we're gonna do it by say don't let that
Speaker 9: shit happen in center field again. You gotta catch that
Speaker 9: baseball and whoops, here we go. All right, right, Tran
Speaker 9: Grisham with a belt. One of the most two mustache
Speaker 9: rides tonight. And you know what, if he starts hitting,
Speaker 9: it's a really good thing for the Yankees because when
Speaker 9: he gets hot, he's a guy who's got a short swing.
Speaker 9: He gets hit. He gets hits in clutch situations, as
Speaker 9: we saw today, and for him, that's six belts this year.
Speaker 9: That's just this shows that he has, you know, the
Speaker 9: difference making ability in the game. So nice job by
Speaker 9: Trent Grisham.
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Speaker 9: Well one, is it worth even talking about. I'd rather
Speaker 9: almost get to voicemails. I mean four innings, six hits,
Speaker 9: five runs, four walks, three strikeouts, not a good night
Speaker 9: topped out at ninety five even mix of the fastball
Speaker 9: and sinker, and he was just hitting way too many
Speaker 9: bats tonight. As I said, less meatballs. Game breakdown, Yankee said,
Speaker 9: thirteen hits tonight. That was good to see, two home runs,
Speaker 9: three walks. They still struck out eight times. Uh, they
Speaker 9: left five men on. As a team, they hit three
Speaker 9: thirty three with runners in scoring position tonight three for
Speaker 9: nine and the pitching struck out eight of their own
Speaker 9: and got basically almost two thirds of their pitches were
Speaker 9: strikes tonight sixty four percent. Spencer Jones hardest hit ball
Speaker 9: to night one oh five point nine and Yerry de
Speaker 9: Los Sansos with the top pitch velocity at ninety seven.
Speaker 9: So we take a look at the division here. Yankees win,
Speaker 9: Raise win, Blue Jays beat the Red Sox, and the
Speaker 9: Twins beat the Orioles. So the Yankees remained six games
Speaker 9: back in the American League East. They still lead the
Speaker 9: wild card four games over the Boston Red Sox, and
Speaker 9: tomorrow we will have the final game in this series.
Speaker 9: Yankees have won the first two. They will go for
Speaker 9: the sweep. It's gonna be Logan Gilbert versus Max Freed,
Speaker 9: Max Free two point eight to eight ERA this season
Speaker 9: and he looks like he's fully back. The last couple
Speaker 9: of times out he's been really strong, and I feel
Speaker 9: like he's gonna give us a chance tomorrow to wrap
Speaker 9: things up with a sweep on a Thursday afternoon game.
Speaker 9: Take a look at where we're at in the series
Speaker 9: so far. Trent Grisham so far has been your top
Speaker 9: win probability impact five for nine in the series, Spencer
Speaker 9: Jones having a good series, McMahon having a good year
Speaker 9: or a good series. Ryan Weathers had a much higher
Speaker 9: game score than Will Warren fifty seven. Will Warren was
Speaker 9: at twenty five. And as we take a look at
Speaker 9: the home runs in this series for the Yankees, both
Speaker 9: by Trent Grisham. First one was in the fifth inning tonight,
Speaker 9: it went three hundred and sixty four feet and the
Speaker 9: second one was really clobber three hundred ninety eight feet
Speaker 9: one hundred and three off the bat. Okay, quick word
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Speaker 9: So there were some streakers tonight. If the Yankees win
Speaker 9: one more, they will be streaking. Made one two straight.
Speaker 9: We'll see if they can make it three tomorrow. Here's
Speaker 9: Brian Man.
Speaker 10: We've been saying it for a while. Derek, right, play
Speaker 10: the US. Let's see what these guys can do out there. Man,
Speaker 10: give him a shot. Look at Jones out there, really
Speaker 10: coming up big. Obviously, Lombard is just a stud. He's
Speaker 10: gonna be said. He made that little error trying to
Speaker 10: rush her play, but don't expect too many of those,
Speaker 10: in my opinion. All in all, love love the way
Speaker 10: the team actually was swinging the bats today. A lot
Speaker 10: of people looking dangerous up there. Again, sometimes you put
Speaker 10: these young guys in there and can just energize the
Speaker 10: entire team. And it kind of looked like that tonight.
Speaker 11: I don't know what do you think, all.
Speaker 9: Right, appreciate the call. Yeah, I mean, young guys doing
Speaker 9: the job. Tonight. You had multi hits for Spencer Jones
Speaker 9: and George Lombard. They both look good. They're both improving.
Speaker 9: Remember people were wondering wondering if Lombard could hit. Well.
Speaker 9: I think he's proven that he can hit. We'll see
Speaker 9: if the league adjusts, but right now he can hit.
Speaker 11: Here's a call from Nashville, and from Nashville, here Tolf
Speaker 11: of the eighth up, eight to five. It's time to
Speaker 11: give them head and put them to bed.
Speaker 1: Yo, Yankee, I like it.
Speaker 6: There's Mary Beth, Oh, Derek, Mary Beth, and you're gonna
Speaker 6: have such a good show tonight.
Speaker 5: Let's call this a laugh for okay.
Speaker 8: Ten runs, oh my god, and the kids.
Speaker 9: Everybody's doing great.
Speaker 12: It's the way.
Speaker 11: It's like the old days.
Speaker 12: I just love this and I think Boston's gonna lose,
Speaker 12: so Yankees win.
Speaker 5: This is a good night.
Speaker 11: I look forward to your show.
Speaker 5: Bye.
Speaker 9: Appreciate the call, Mary Beth, great attitude. As always. Here's
Speaker 9: Michael Yo.
Speaker 12: Derek is McMichael from the Jersey Brother. Finally, the Yankees
Speaker 12: are sticking together hit, They're putting together runs like It's
Speaker 12: crazy how you can make how a team can make
Speaker 12: you hate them and then just one inning can make
Speaker 12: you fun in love with them all over again. Brother,
Speaker 12: you just gotta love baseball, man. But this is the
Speaker 12: type of baseball that we need to see. This is
Speaker 12: the type of baseball that if we play this way,
Speaker 12: we will be twenty and twenty six will city champions
Speaker 12: with this pitching and hitting like that? Come on, by
Speaker 12: the who can stop?
Speaker 7: Let's go.
Speaker 9: I love the optimism. I love the optimism. We'll see
Speaker 9: I don't know. I want to see uh. I want
Speaker 9: to see them do it more than one day out
Speaker 9: of a week. You know, Let's let's see him sustain
Speaker 9: this for a while.
Speaker 11: Here's Louis Louis Preedifield here, it's been a while. I
Speaker 11: got a question. Let's thot I'm watching uh this guy,
Speaker 11: I bet.
Speaker 7: The guy that came up the god the left handed
Speaker 7: Aaron Judge, I forgot his name, Spencer Johnes. Anyway, do
Speaker 7: you think he'd be's able to get into the home
Speaker 7: run derby? Heel, if you take a crack at the
Speaker 7: home run Derby, you think he wins will come up
Speaker 7: on top.
Speaker 11: I just I just thought about that.
Speaker 9: I think you're a little premature. I mean, guy's got
Speaker 9: five home runs as a rookie. I'm sure if he's
Speaker 9: ever in a home run Derby, he's big and strong
Speaker 9: enough that he could probably win it. But let's let's
Speaker 9: cross that bridge when we get there. It's call about Garcia.
Speaker 5: Hey, they're honestly. The way Garcia has been playing recently,
Speaker 5: I feel that he's back to what some people were
Speaker 5: talking about right before he played the first game with
Speaker 5: us or they said they might use him as a
Speaker 5: platoon when Stan comes back, and I understand I'm seeing
Speaker 5: and now he's cooled off, not calling him a bad player.
Speaker 5: I know he's still a great hitter. But I'm not
Speaker 5: too worried about when Stang comes.
Speaker 1: Back, like where they're going to play.
Speaker 5: Especially the way he's playing right now. I think they'll
Speaker 5: figure it out, which is completely fine. When he was high,
Speaker 5: I think it was more of a conversation. But right now,
Speaker 5: I think Stan is going to start at least versus
Speaker 5: you know, his most dominant kind of pictures.
Speaker 9: Did you guys see that John Carlos Stanton. There were
Speaker 9: video of him on social media and he ran to
Speaker 9: second base and he lived. He survived. But yes, Garcia,
Speaker 9: I think we'll play against righty's, and I think Stanton
Speaker 9: will play against lefties. I don't think you can play
Speaker 9: Stanton every single day. I don't think you can do it.
Speaker 9: And if he starts hitting, if he gets hot, then
Speaker 9: maybe a give more backs against righty's. But we'll see
Speaker 9: what they do in the postseason. That'll be interesting. Uh,
Speaker 9: here's a call from Caden.
Speaker 11: Hey, Derek, this is Caden from Tennessee Colin. I really
Speaker 11: like what Ron McMahon's been doing for the Yankees, recently
Speaker 11: started to pick it up. And number two, I know
Speaker 11: it's early with in a Yankee stint that Elliott Ramos
Speaker 11: does not fite what we needed. I was very excited
Speaker 11: about seeing Henry uh Wellana, but we got this gun instead.
Speaker 11: Oh boy, I thought Henry could have been really good
Speaker 11: for us, But nope, we got Elliott.
Speaker 9: That that that was the stages of grief call right there,
Speaker 9: right now. Henry Lallane is at high A with the
Speaker 9: Eugene Emeralds. He is this so far this season, He's
Speaker 9: thrown twenty in the third innings, twenty two strikeouts, five walks,
Speaker 9: two point sixty six erra. The problem with him is
Speaker 9: that he has been hurt a lot. But he's six seven,
Speaker 9: two hundred eleven pounds, has nasty stuff, good fastball, good slider,
Speaker 9: and I think he's gonna be a stud if he
Speaker 9: ever stays healthy. But Jesse Sam says, I don't care
Speaker 9: about Stanton's legs. Got no legs, Lieutenant stan doesn't have legs.
Speaker 9: One more time from John Sterling.
Speaker 3: Game A Yankees wins.
Speaker 9: Yankee all right, guys, I'm gonna call it a night.
Speaker 9: Good night for the AANNGS ten runs. They answered our prayers.
Speaker 9: They made us not stress so much there at the end.
Speaker 9: Great job by the bullpen Trent Grisham with the belt,
Speaker 9: couple of mustache rides. I'll catch you guys tomorrow afternoon game.
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