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Speaker 2: All right, do we want to bring Danny Parkins into

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Speaker 2: Talk Bears. Let's bring Danny in from Chicago. Danny is

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Speaker 2: the most talented young broadcaster I think of the country

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Speaker 2: doing radio. Buddy and Nick Wright introduced me years ago.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I say that as borderline is time

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Speaker 2: so Danny. First of all, I was surprised. I thought

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Speaker 2: of get Usually, you know, they make two to three

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Speaker 2: times what a coach does. But Ryan Poles has so

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Speaker 2: much steam now, so much momentum. Eber Flus doesn't so

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Speaker 2: my take by getting Roma Donze, that's a Ryan Poles call.

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Speaker 2: That's my take.

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Speaker 4: Years one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: When Ryan Poles was here, when he got hired, people

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Speaker 5: were asking him about team building philosophy, and he said,

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Speaker 5: remember where I came from, and that's Kansas City. Because

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Speaker 5: he got criticism for his first draft where he didn't

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Speaker 5: have a first round pick, taking Kyler Gordon and Jaquan

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Speaker 5: him for not taking a receiver in George Pickens with

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Speaker 5: anyone there was the right guy to take, but I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to not support the quarterback. He traded for Slaypool.

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Speaker 5: It didn't work. He trades the number one pick he

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Speaker 5: wants DJ more attached to it. It does work. He

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Speaker 5: trades a fourth round pick for Keenan Allen, he's one

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Speaker 5: You know, these guys have a rookie contract timeline that

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Speaker 5: are completely aligned. I know Burrow and Chase wereing back

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Speaker 5: to back drafts, but the idea is the same, to

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Speaker 4: I'm ecstatic.

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Speaker 5: This is modern offensive football finally coming to Chicago for

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Speaker 5: the first time in my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: Whaty nuts?

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Speaker 2: John and I were talking about this. When is the

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Speaker 2: last rookie quarterback that got this? This is insane.

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Speaker 6: Gerald Everett's a throw in. He was the Chargers' best

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Speaker 6: tight end, highly productive. Well, we've never seen it for

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Speaker 5: Herbert had a very good situation in LA with Keenan

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Speaker 5: that cynicism that Bears fans is well earned. The amount

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Speaker 5: of luck that led to this moment is just staggering.

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Speaker 5: Week eighteen, two years ago, the Bears needed the Texans

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Speaker 5: So the stars are finally aligning in Chicago to be

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Speaker 2: So Minnesota trades up twenty three to seventeen, Jacksonville slides back,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota selects Dallas Turner. So ten minutes ago, John and

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Speaker 2: a little to get JJ McCarthy. Boy, this division's got

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Speaker 2: this division's got good personnel that this division is freaking ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You can do a Pro Bowl, offensive Pro Bowl with

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Speaker 1: I well, Danny, that's yeah. That's my thing with the Bears.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're all in love. I mean, how could

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Speaker 1: you not be what they've done. It's not the Packers.

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Speaker 1: We know if that quarterback he's playing, they're gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: You'd assume their defense can't be as shitty as it's been.

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Speaker 1: And the Lions honestly should have beat the forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 1: should have been the Super Bowl. So it's you could

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Speaker 4: Division very I mean it could. It could be a

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I I think Minnesota and chicag will battle for

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Speaker 2: but it's pretty damn interesting offensively. The Packers defense never delivers.

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't. The Aaron Rodgers year it was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: But they Green Bay does offense better than anybody. They

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Speaker 2: in the first round historically almost every year. So Dallas Turner,

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Speaker 2: that was there night.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I wonder with Poles? And I

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Speaker 1: wonder if Poles may say this tonight in his press conference,

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Speaker 1: because you hit on the Claypool situation. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: missed badly on character. And like you said, he came

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Speaker 1: they would have taken Rome over neighbors like Rome was

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Speaker 1: me with that at all because his character, from what

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Speaker 1: I was told is elite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brock.

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Speaker 5: Heword told me that he's one of the two favorite

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Speaker 5: players that he's seen at Washington and being about on

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Speaker 5: the program in about twenty years. And you know what's

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Speaker 5: crazy too, They they kind of telegraphed it, not the Bears,

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Speaker 5: but Caleb. Like it came out the other day that

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Speaker 5: Tom Pelsaro had it that Roma Dunzay was working out

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Speaker 5: liked Roma Dunzay's outfit.

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Speaker 4: So I think it might.

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Speaker 5: I think it might come out because I mean they've

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Speaker 5: been doing install with Caleb Williams, Like, I mean, this

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Speaker 5: has been locked up for eight weeks, that Caleb's going

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Speaker 5: to be a Bear. It wouldn't shocked me at all.

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Speaker 5: If Ryan Poles admits that he asked Caleb Williams for

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Speaker 5: input on who he wanted them to take at number nine,

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Speaker 5: and so yeah, the character part for Poles, sure, but

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Speaker 5: it would not surprise me at all if Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: had at least a say in Roma Dunsay being a

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Speaker 2: I've been told this by multiple scouts and gms in

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Speaker 2: top eight pick, goes seventeen. Guys for years, Danny, I've

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Speaker 2: always been told by scouts a good draft, you'll have

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Speaker 2: I was told this year it was nineteen to twenty. God,

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Speaker 2: I'm amazed. My guess is Cincinnati's next guys. I think

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Speaker 2: they went and got a Marius Mims. This is the

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Speaker 2: first pick I have real questions with not a ton

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Speaker 2: of starts. If listen, somebody's gonna bust in the first

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Speaker 2: eighteen picks. This one scares me.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna most of the guys will bust, multiple guys

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Speaker 5: will bust in the first eighteen picks. I mean, don't

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Speaker 5: you think this is maybe just Joe Burrow needs to

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Speaker 5: be healthy in order for us to be good.

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Speaker 1: Bengals love the high weight speed guys too. You know,

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Speaker 1: this guy's got eight starts or whatever, a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a fly you know. I wouldn't say a flyer

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Speaker 1: because it comes from Georgia, but pretty risky, but that's

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Speaker 5: They take some risks, we yeah, but when Burrow is healthy,

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Speaker 5: they win, for sure, win big so so I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know everybody apparently want you know, Hendrickson wants to

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Speaker 5: and guys are getting out of there because you can't

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and a healthy Jamar Chase and so if

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Speaker 5: this pick helps keep them upright, that's that's not the

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Speaker 5: worst thing in the world. The run on offensive players

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Speaker 5: was just remarkable, Like we knew, we knew it was

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Speaker 5: gonna be the top seven. We're like, oh, maybe it'll

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Speaker 5: be the top nine, but what it was the top

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Speaker 5: Top fourteen, top right, top fourteen picks.

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Speaker 1: You have to wonder if it's gonna start being a trend,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the way college football is much more offensive.

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Speaker 2: There's two quarterbacks Shahdor Sanders will go very high next year.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 2: They literally play with like it's twenty eight NFL guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like I just don't. It's like JJ McCarthy, Jesus,

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Speaker 2: did you ever trail did you ever not have a

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Speaker 4: I mean JJ McCarthy went a half without being asked

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Speaker 1: He was Jimmy Garoppolo of college football.

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Speaker 2: There's a stat that he only threw the ball and

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm this is top of the head, like he

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Speaker 2: that's like, well, i mean Alabama quarterbacks, Georgia quarterbacks historically,

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Speaker 2: that's why I've defended Michael Pennix Danny with Michigan. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: do you know how many good quarterbacks look bad? During

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Speaker 2: that fifteen year Alabama Nick Saban defensive run like Cennicks

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Speaker 5: The Pennix thing. I'm sure you guys talked about it

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Speaker 5: I had ever heard, because they gave Kirk Cousins one

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Speaker 5: hundred million. The last three first round picks are skill

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Speaker 5: position guys. The defense is pretty good, but go go

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Speaker 5: try to win a division and get a piece for

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Speaker 5: right now. But I wonder if they're saying we are good,

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Speaker 5: Cousins is gonna make us better and so we're not

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Speaker 5: next couple of years. So Michael Pennix will learn from

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, and we'll have an elite quarterback prospect learn

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Speaker 2: Denny. Basically, they're saying, we're gonna do a Green Bay Packer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because Penex I thought was ready to play ay

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Speaker 2: My guess is he sits for a year ult.

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Speaker 4: So well, what Dred million guaranteed your cousin.

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Speaker 2: But I know, but they're not paying anybody offensively they've

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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's why they went in free agency

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Speaker 2: players they don't have. I mean, Jarrett the defensive lineman's

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Speaker 2: making money. They're not paying I mean, they had so

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that owner got so scarred after watching

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Speaker 1: no circumstances, after dealing with Matt Ryan for a decade,

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Speaker 1: because watching Desmond.

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Speaker 5: Rittoral always have a succession plan, that's interesting, that's possible.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that would be an ownership thing.

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Speaker 1: And Rohie Morris I was telling Colin think two years

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Speaker 1: the whole season got derailed. And now Cousins coming off

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Speaker 2: But still, Danny, we said this Raheem was a head

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Speaker 2: becomes Sean mcvay's best friend. McVeigh is in his ear saying, dude,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get another job, but let me just tell you,

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Speaker 2: we upgraded off a super Bowl quarterback. You cannot be

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Speaker 2: think Raheem is one of these. You know, these defensive

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Speaker 2: you know, I watched Pittsburgh Steelers offense sometime. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the NFL network in the eighties. It's like

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Speaker 2: there are these defensive coaches, Pete Carroll, I'm like, can

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Speaker 2: you can you get an offensive line?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Pete McDermott, they couldn't get a run game for seven years.

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Speaker 2: Raheem's not that guy. He's got a little bit. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to think Demiko Ryans is the same. He's a

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Speaker 2: I get the league. I'm with McVeigh those guys. By

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Speaker 2: the way, has anybody on mcvay's tree not work yet?

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Speaker 4: Right? Which is?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's why I wanted the Bears to fire

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Speaker 5: eber Fluse and hire someone better than Shane Waldron, although

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Speaker 5: he is saying kind of he's on the tree as well.

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Speaker 5: He's an old passing game coordinator.

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Speaker 5: Offense is the way of the league, and obviously if

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Speaker 5: you hit it quarterback, it's never a bad pick. It's

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Speaker 5: just a shocking allocation of resources with to draft the

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Speaker 5: at least with Jordan Love. It had worked for the

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Speaker 5: Cousins hasn't played a game for the Falcons and they

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Speaker 2: Okay, Danny Parkins has a book pipeline to the pros.

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Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Also, Danny Parkins and Spiegel. It's Chicago. It's

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Speaker 2: a big radio hit. I can't believe we got you.

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Speaker 2: It's nine to seventeen. You have a family and young children, Hollin.

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Speaker 5: I'm in Detroit. It's ten seventeen. I'm in Detroit to

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Speaker 5: see the Bears get Caleb Williams and Rome with Tunde.

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Speaker 5: I left my four year old and two year old

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Speaker 5: my man, I can Colin.

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Speaker 1: The Bears just won the twenty twenty seven Super Bowl tonight,

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Speaker 1: come on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm texting.

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Speaker 5: I'm texting Nick Wright, taunting him that there's no shame

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Speaker 5: in Patrick Mahomes losing to Tom Brady and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: and Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Okay, like, I'm here as long as you listen.

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Speaker 5: If you guys want to get back to the twenties

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Speaker 4: But my god, thank you for having me on. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Okay, one more Danny, We're gonna keep you for one

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Speaker 2: more pick because okay, this is great. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: and I've said this before with Danny, he is so

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Speaker 2: out our gambling vertical at the volume, Danny's going to

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Speaker 2: going to be, He's going to be Kirk Cousins is

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Speaker 2: that he's a nice guy. And you know people are

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Speaker 2: you're going to look up and he's going to have

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Speaker 2: forty two touchdowns and seven picks, and he's going to

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Speaker 2: By the way, with your picks?

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Speaker 4: I started fifteen and oh against the spread on the

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Speaker 4: air in the NFL documented true story started fifteen and

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Speaker 4: oh against the spread on.

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Speaker 2: The Jason McIntyre's on a heater on NBA. I think

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: It's the greatest feeling in the world when you when

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Speaker 5: you feel like you're in the zone. It's you feel

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Speaker 5: our social media guy cut the whole thing together and

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Speaker 5: put it out. I'm like, I'm not getting nearly enough

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Verse, I told you John Middlecoff Jared Verse

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Speaker 2: I that was my take. Now he wasn't late too

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Speaker 2: two thirds, they're gonna they're gonna they want to running

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Speaker 1: Well, they lost Aaron Donald, so you need to get

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Speaker 5: The uh, the thing with Verse that worried me a

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Speaker 5: two years older than than Latso and Turner. So like

434
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Speaker 5: he he's kind of a man among boys, like pushing

435
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Speaker 5: around nineteen year old sophomores.

436
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Speaker 4: So you can't do that in the NFL, you.

437
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Speaker 2: Know, Dan and John, this is the cutoff. I've been

438
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Speaker 2: told nineteen. They people believe there were nineteen first round picks.

439
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Speaker 2: So a good draft is eighteen. This is a really

440
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Speaker 2: good draft seventeen eighteen, this is nineteen verse. I didn't think.

441
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Speaker 2: I thought Mims would be closer to the borderline because

442
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Speaker 2: I think once you get to the nineteen twenty twenty one,

443
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Speaker 2: for instance, Brian Thomas is available. Pittsburgh lost Deontay Johnson

444
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Speaker 2: to Carolina. I think they're going to look, they've done

445
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: a great job historically with wide receivers, and they got

446
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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Let's get him Pickens. He's got backs the

447
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: tight end from Penn State. But Thomas is a classic

448
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Speaker 2: example of a later first round pick where he doesn't

449
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 2: have much of a route tree. He's just you know,

450
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Speaker 2: he's classic LSU guy. It's like just insanely hyper athletic,

451
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Speaker 2: not a lot to the route tree. He's an over

452
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Speaker 2: the top guy, which Pittsburgh has done. I think Pittsburgh

453
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Speaker 2: draft's receivers better than anybody in the league, and I

454
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Speaker 2: think new I think green Bay finds good offensive lineman

455
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Speaker 2: in middle un better than anybody in the league. So

456
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Brian Thomas as my guest here. But

457
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Speaker 2: I do believe this is the cutoff spot in terms

458
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Speaker 2: of now, these are players with flaws, holes.

459
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Speaker 5: Or less positional value. So like teams will start drafting

460
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 5: guys to their comfortable playing at guard. You know, Jackson powers.

461
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 5: Johnson could be a center that goes here and it'll

462
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 5: be good, but not but not a guy that you

463
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Speaker 5: normally would say in the first round. I I think

464
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Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy little predictions. I know, I'm not staying out

465
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Speaker 5: with you guys. I think Xavier Worthy's a chief. Like

466
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 5: that guy just screams Chief to me that they'll they

467
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 5: would try to recreate the Tyreek Hill speed. I mean,

468
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 5: if he's there, but I just they have a lot

469
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Speaker 5: of needs. Protecting Mahomes is always good. Obviously they lost need.

470
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Speaker 5: They could take a corner.

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Speaker 1: But Pittsburgh right here, I mean they just gid Russell

472
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Speaker 1: Wilson deep ball.

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Speaker 5: And I mean if he goes in front of Thomas,

474
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Speaker 5: it would surprise me a little bit just because he's like,

475
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Speaker 5: I don't even know that he's one hundred, but his

476
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: highlights are incredible. Yes, he will go over the middle

477
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Speaker 5: like he is. He is a tough one sixty five

478
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 5: and the dude set the combine record for the forty

479
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: yard dash. I can't wait to see if he works

480
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. He's fun, man, He's very fun. He's

481
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Speaker 5: my favorite guy. Probably left on the board.

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Speaker 1: The thing I can't get out of my head. We

483
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Speaker 1: were talking about ten five minutes ago. When you sign

484
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Speaker 1: a quarterback, especially an older quarterback who's not like Aaron

485
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Speaker 1: Rodgers he names Kirk Cousins, his equity with the new

486
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: fan base is gonna be pretty small. So coming off

487
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Speaker 1: the injury, what if he starts slow, No one in

488
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Speaker 1: Atlanta is gonna want just like throwing Pennix. That's where

489
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Speaker 1: it could get weird, and it could get weird fast.

490
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Speaker 1: If cousins and sometimes cousins. He was playing really good

491
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Speaker 1: before he got injured, but he's had a lot of

492
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Speaker 1: just rough couple weeks stretches. If it starts looking weird,

493
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Speaker 1: he's not really. You know, he's maybe eighty percent rehab

494
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Speaker 1: from the injury. He's never moved great. That situation could

495
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: just get weird fast. I get big picture why they

496
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: did it, But internally in their locker room, you know

497
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Speaker 1: that's it's a risky move.

498
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Speaker 4: It's a risky move.

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Speaker 2: Here's something interesting. I think Pittsburgh goes and gets Brian

500
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Speaker 2: Thomas but Miami and Philly are after Pittsburgh. They do

501
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Speaker 2: not need wide receivers. Jacksonville does at twenty three, So

502
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Speaker 2: I guarantee you Jacksonville is praying Pittsburgh doesn't take Brian

503
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Speaker 2: Thomas because Miami and Pitts Philadelphia are stacked.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, by the way, Dallas at twenty four. Okay, you

506
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Speaker 2: guys talk, I'm knocking down my eyes are there's no

507
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Speaker 2: fuzz here with me, no alcohol. I got a two

508
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Speaker 2: minute bathroom break please, yeah, yeah, yeah, Danny Parkins, John middlecough.

509
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you think do you think.

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Speaker 1: We're give me sitting here right now halfway through tonight?

511
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: Give me over underwins right now? And the Bears for

512
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Speaker 1: everyone to be happy, does they have to be above eight?

513
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

514
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Speaker 5: The numbers said at eight and a half. They won

515
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Speaker 5: seven last year. They've added Keenan Allen, Gerald Everett, DeAndre Swift,

516
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, and Roma Dunza, and upgraded their offensive coaching staff.

517
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Speaker 5: They definitely should hit that over.

518
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Speaker 4: I man C. J.

519
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: Stroud's rookie season last year showed what's possible, and.

520
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: His team wasn't nearly as good as this Bears team.

521
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. So and

522
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: Caleb is so unique.

523
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Speaker 6: Man.

524
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Speaker 5: We've never seen a player be so comfortable with the

525
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 5: spotlight because of NIL, because of USC, because of He's

526
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 5: been basically created in a lab for this moment. He said,

527
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 5: he woke up today and he felt like it was

528
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Speaker 5: a normal Bay He's getting picked be the number one

529
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 5: pick in the draft, like he just there's something about

530
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: him that just he's not going to be overwhelmed by

531
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Speaker 5: the moment. So I expect him to be the offensive

532
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 5: rookie of the year. I expect him to break at

533
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 5: least one of the Bears records for futility. They've never

534
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 5: had a four thousand yard passer, the only team in

535
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Speaker 5: the NFL that the only team in the NFL.

536
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Speaker 4: It's never already touchdown quarterback.

537
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Speaker 5: But I mean, honestly, if one of those falls is

538
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 5: a rookie, you know will make the argument that he's

539
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 5: already the best quarterback in Bears franchise history.

540
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Speaker 4: So I do think they hit the over at eight

541
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Speaker 4: and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's where I think the Bears are fascinating, is you

543
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: compare him to the Texans. I think everyone in the

544
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: league and I don't know where you stand. Would take

545
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Demko over Aberflus.

546
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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I mean yes, that's in Bobby's flow.

547
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: It clearly has a chance to be like one of

548
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: Shanahan you know minions, it becomes a star offensive coordinator.

549
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: So to me, the pressure Poles has had one of

550
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: the great twelve month stretches in like GM history, and

551
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Caleb even if he had an up and down rookie year,

552
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: it's like he's gonna get time. Obviously that the pressure

553
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: on this coaching staff is pretty immense.

554
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Shane Waldron has about as big of a spotlight

555
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 5: on him as any offensive coordinator could possibly have in

556
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 5: the league. And he definitely is a more significant figure

557
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: to the Bears than Matt Eberflus because what they can't

558
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 5: do is do what they've done to the last two

559
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 5: high pick Paris quarterbacks. John Fox was the head coach

560
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 5: when they drafted Mitch Trubisky.

561
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Speaker 4: DW.

562
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 5: Loggins was the offensive coordinator. They fired him after his

563
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: rookie year, so he had to have two systems in

564
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: two years, justin fields drafted by Matt Naggi. Plays before

565
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: they were they wanted to play him, fire him, then

566
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 5: they hire Luke Getzi as the head coach, two systems

567
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 5: in two years. There needs to be continuity. So if

568
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 5: this season goes poorly and they blow it up and

569
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 5: fire Matt eberflues, hopefully Caleb Williams is so good that

570
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: it's like Justin Herbert who had to deal with you know,

571
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 5: Anthony Lynn and then different coordinators and you know Staley

572
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: and Kellen Moore and you know he he's been coach proof,

573
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: but it wasted his rookie contract. So the Bears need

574
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: continuity and they that that's like the big vulnerability for

575
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 5: sure for where they're at right now.

576
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Speaker 2: Danny, where are you in Detroit? It looks like you're

577
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: in a studio where.

578
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 5: I wish I was in a studio. No, I'm in

579
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: a I'm in an upstairs room. Our radio company like

580
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 5: rented out a Buffalo Wild Wings and there's like five

581
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 5: radio stations here and I'm the only one that is

582
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 5: currently on the air, So everyone else is around me

583
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 5: kind of drinking and watching the draft and I'm getting

584
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 5: these takes off with Bill coffin cow Herd.

585
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Speaker 2: Do you have Do you have a cocktail or food

586
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: to assist you in this?

587
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had wings, and you know there's I've maybe

588
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 5: had I maybe had a celebratory beer after the Odudon's pick.

589
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 5: But I didn't know how you felt about that, so

590
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: I wanted to you know, I wanted to keep a

591
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 5: kosher But yeah, it's it's possible that there's a there's

592
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Speaker 5: a beverage right here.

593
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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's right, Dane, Okay, absolutely all right.

594
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Speaker 1: The Bears went from a couple of years ago having

595
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: nobody offense to having Dj Moore, Keenan Allen, Roma Dunesay,

596
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams offensive tackle.

597
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Steelers have taken yeah, an offensive tackle. The Steelers have

598
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: taken an offensive tackle Fonto Well yeah, yeah, I mean

599
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: listen their offensive line like Buffalo. I keep I like

600
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: the players, and it never gells. So I'm like, at

601
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: some point, what do you make of it? John Yours?

602
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: You don't like the Louis to me?

603
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: The Steelers, It's just I guess they have a little

604
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: more upside now at the quarterback position, but they feel

605
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: like the same thing year in year out, just different names.

606
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Nine ten wins and one and done in the playoffs, Like,

607
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: what what is any difference this year and this the

608
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta situation on steroids. If Russell's boring dunking and dunking,

609
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna want to say justin field to get in there.

610
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: And then the pressure of that, let's face it, he

611
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: struggles throwing with the pockets unless Arthur Smith can rehabilitate

612
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: him and six months. It feels like there's gonna be

613
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot of hype around this franchise, but I don't

614
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: expect to see much different, especially Burrows healthy, the Ravens,

615
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: even the Browns. They're I mean, hell, they won eleven

616
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: games this year, half of them with Joe Flacco.

617
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: So font No is the uh font No is the

618
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Speaker 2: Husky by the way, as you know, yeah, I'm a

619
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: Husky fan.

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Speaker 1: He's I'm more guard than tackle.

621
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Speaker 2: Well he was just he's a brawler. He's like the

622
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: first steak.

623
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

624
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: My take was, I thought the Chargers if they moved down,

625
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: if they moved down to like eleven with Minnesota, they

626
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: would get the Oregon State kid. If they moved down further,

627
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: I thought they would get this kid. He's classic, hardbought,

628
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: just hands on you, brawler, not there's no finesse. He's

629
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Speaker 2: just gonna beat you up. But for the record. That's

630
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Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin. That's very Pittsburgh Steeler in that division. That's

631
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: what they that's what.

632
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Speaker 1: You ordered David di Castro years ago, remember from Yeah, Sanford, Danford,

633
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: guy like those players.

634
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the Bears drafted a guy like that

635
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: and they played him at right tackle in Darnell right

636
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 5: last year and he was he was great all rookie

637
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 5: right tackle. They drafted Broderick Jones last year in the

638
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: first round, so this is back to back years with

639
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 5: the first rounds pick at tackle, and Roderck Jones didn't

640
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: start right away for them, So I it'll be interesting.

641
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: I would assume that they think that Broderick's ready to

642
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 5: go to left tackle and Fatano is going to be

643
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 5: their right tackle right away. That would that would be

644
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 5: my guest. But I guess he could slide inside the guard,

645
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 5: but those are he can absolutely, yeah, he definitely can't.

646
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: But I'm wonder what they're drafting him to do. I mean,

647
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 5: that's those are just two premium resources on offensive linemen

648
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: in each of the last two years.

649
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Speaker 2: You know, for years and years, there was a real

650
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Speaker 2: kind of knock that the Pac twelve, you know, was

651
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: kind of a second tier conference. Let me tell you something.

652
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels did play in it. You start looking,

653
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: Panix goes eight, Roma, Dunze goes nine, h goes twelve. God,

654
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: there's a lot of PAC twelve players this year. Indy

655
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: gets one, uh, Sat Scott's just got one. This is

656
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: this is one of the best. This is one oh

657
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: the Saints at fourteen. You may have eight pack twelve players.

658
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: We said this, John and I are a lot of

659
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: packed twelve guys. You're more of a big ten guy.

660
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: This was the best I'd seen the PAC twelve in

661
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: twenty years.

662
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 4: It was ty praise.

663
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, why we joined It's why we joined forces.

664
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, exactly, and honestly, big ten football can be unwatchable.

665
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 5: I'm I'm a fan of good college football, so I

666
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 5: will be a little fair weather because when I went

667
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: to Syracuse, I saw ten wins in four seasons, uh

668
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 5: in college football. So my wife went to Clemson, so

669
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 5: I can tend to be a bit of a fair

670
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 5: weather college football observer, Like I just want to watch

671
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 5: the good games and the good teams. But Minnesota, this

672
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 5: getting JJ McCarthy and Turner in this like they could

673
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 5: have never dreamed.

674
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: Of that it's crazy crazy could they.

675
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: Could have never dreamed of that? That's a that's an

676
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: unbelievable haul.

677
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: Okay, this is Danny's book, Pipeline of the Pros. It's

678
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: literally ten thirty five where he's at. We do appreciate

679
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: him stopping by. You're awesome. We're going to talk very soon.

680
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: You're kicking butt. Go have another libation. And uh, I

681
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 2: really appreciate you stopping baugh. You didn't have to do this, and.

682
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 5: I really I I wanted to, and I knew I

683
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 5: was in Detroit and I felt like, you know, a

684
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 5: Colin Cowherd John Middlkoff production needed a presence from the

685
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: team that got the A plus quarterback wide receiver tandem.

686
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: That's you know.

687
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: Kayleb Williams says he wants eight Super Bowls. This is

688
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 5: where this is the origin story of it happening.

689
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Miami went Remember last year they fell apart physically

690
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: on the defensive front. They get Chop Robinson, who again

691
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of a flawed player, but tremendous upside.

692
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: Chop Robinson to Miami not a shock. By the way.

693
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: Now we're having a run on defensive players. You're gonna

694
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: see the Clemson corner Wiggins here go pretty quick. I

695
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: think so Chop Robinson in Miami. Miami was a really

696
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: good team late and they literally lost like four to

697
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: five defensive players up they fell. It was a cluster injury.

698
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: So this makes sense.

699
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 4: John, your thoughts, well, say this for James Franklin.

700
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Speaker 1: He can't beat Ohio State or Michigan, but he sure

701
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: can find NFL players high in the draft. You know,

702
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: talent and recruiting is not James Franklin's issue. I mean

703
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: he gets Blue Chippers. Honestly, It's why a lot of

704
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: Penn State guys get mad at him because it's like,

705
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: with all this talent we have, can we ever beat

706
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: anyone that matters? Like no one cares about beating Rutgers

707
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in Minnesota.

708
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: I will say, though, if you're gonna, I always had this.

709
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Speaker 1: There's why he's gonna keep a job.

710
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 6: Though.

711
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Well, and the air thing is if you ever move

712
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: off him, you know, Oklahoma's had like remember when they

713
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: got what was the guy that missed John Blake? But

714
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: John Blake was an unbelievable recruiter. Stoops took his players

715
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: and won a Natty year two Ron Zook unbelievable recruiter leaves.

716
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: I think it was urban Meyer came in and just crushed.

717
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: If you're gonna have a coach who maybe isn't the

718
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: great x's and o's guy, get a great recruiter because

719
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: the next guy comes in, like I mean, So my

720
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: takeaway is I think James has made Penn State relevant

721
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: and I think that's what Penn State is. If they

722
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: ever move off him, the next guy is going to

723
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: get like sixteen NFL players for sure.

724
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Speaker 1: I mean, you could say it got easier with Harbaugh Leven.

725
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: The problem is Oregon, Washington USC coming into the conference.

726
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, Miami, let's face it. I've said over and

727
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: over is that I would not give to us some

728
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: massive contract over the next couple of months. I would

729
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: play this out if you can't win this division. Now,

730
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: the Bills got worse, the Patriots are in shambles, and

731
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: the Jets are a ticking time bomb of a couple

732
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: ham strings. Then all of a sudden their season could

733
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: get derailed. So to me, Miami, we've seen the last

734
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: couple of years, same shit start asked, you know, Peter out.

735
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: As it gets colder, you start playing the better teams.

736
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Let's face it, they weren't even close down the stretch

737
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: playing the better quarterbacks. So I'm not that into them. Colin,

738
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know where you stand on the Dolphins. Clearly

739
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: Mike is a good offensive mine, but I can't buy

740
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: into the quarterback and the defensive personnel. I mean, they

741
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: just lost their best player to the Raiders.

742
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

743
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: So Danny Parkins, I want to thank him again for

744
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: coming on the show. What a blast. That was so

745
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: great to get him to drop in with the greatest

746
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: draft in league history by the show.

747
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 1: What a moment for the Bears tonight. That's cool, It's great.

748
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm fired up.

749
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: You know.

750
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Speaker 2: I love Chicago. Yeah, I think Miami is one of

751
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: those where there's a lot I like about them. Second,

752
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: I love getting.

753
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: Ballot text you back.

754
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: He did, they did very well. They did well. Listen

755
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: man again from about nineteen on Jared ver On, these

756
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 2: are some flawed players that are really good versus a

757
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: little older. He's a power rusher, Chop Robinson again. People

758
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: see he's a bit of a one trick pony, really good.

759
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: Troy Fonteau is more of a right tackle, a brawl er,

760
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: no finesse to his game. Jacksonville is going to get

761
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas if he's available. I swear to god, they're

762
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: going to get that wide receiver. What do you think

763
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Philadelphia does here?

764
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: I think they go with whoever their top corner is

765
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: on the board, whether that's that's going to be Clem's

766
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: Alabama or alb Alabama. Yeah, I wonder if Wiggins is

767
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: a little light. I mean, at one seventy five, the

768
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: draft him, and.

769
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: You know, I think you're right, they're gonna get the

770
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: Alabama kid.

771
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: You know, with all these tackles off the board, I

772
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: think they're they're inclined to always go in the trenches,

773
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: but they've invested a lot in the offensive line. They've

774
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: drafted defensive lineman constantly the last couple of years. I

775
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: think they go dB. This is where sometimes it pays.

776
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: There was a lot like Howie loves making a move,

777
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: but he didn't even have to move in. Whoever his

778
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: top corner is on the board is going to be

779
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: sitting there for him at twenty two. The other thing, Colin,

780
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: sometimes in the twenties, you know, twenty two to twenty

781
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: eight range, you get a guy with some flaws. But

782
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: we've seen the Justin Jeffersons, the TJ. Watts, Like, you

783
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: can get really impact players in this range. You know,

784
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: sometimes they're not the most hype guy coming into the draft,

785
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: but you can get elite Pro Bowl guys right in

786
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: this range. And if you do hit on them, guy

787
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: at twenty three is a lot cheaper and the guy

788
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: at seven on your books. So I mean you're only

789
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: paying him a couple million dollars a year for four years.

790
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if Philly goes Terry and Arnold, who, by

791
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: the way, was a ninety eight recruit out of one hundred.

792
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: He was a five star corner. What you notice about

793
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: him when you watched Bama play is the really great

794
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: athletes have something and you can't teach it. The super

795
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: twitchy athletes have a change of direction like you'll see

796
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 2: these corners or those receivers like jet Jet quick. Big

797
00:39:55,440 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: guys generally don't have it. Arnold, it's cartoonish his ability

798
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: to get fooled and catch up. So he's the best

799
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 2: corner in this draft. Wiggins is smaller. I think Philadelphia,

800
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: I think this is a pretty honest move. You know,

801
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: they signed their two receivers. They got Saquon Barkley. They've

802
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: spent big money on offense, which, by the way, that's

803
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: where that's where you should spend your money. In twenty

804
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: twenty four, I think they're gonna load up on defense.

805
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, here's the other thing. Last couple of years, they've

806
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: only drafted from like two programs, Alabama and Georgia. So

807
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: do not expect, you know, some random school to come

808
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: off the board here. They have not messed with that,

809
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: and they feel good about that strategy, even if some

810
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: of the guys are still a work in progress. They

811
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: are going to lean the elite programs and let it fail.

812
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: If they miss, so be it. But they're not gonna

813
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: miss going with the Toledo, going with kind of a

814
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: smaller Kansas State or whatever. They changed their philosophy a

815
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, just Georgia and Alabama. Like honestly,

816
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: they just stick in the SEC. They drafted half their

817
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: rosters George and Alabama, and even AJ Brown who they

818
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: traded for was an SEC guy who now they've signed

819
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: a multiple contracts. So I would expect the Eagles to

820
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: go Alabama here.

821
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 2: So let's go twenty two to twenty three, twenty four

822
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: Dallas and then I'll let you go. We started at

823
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: six h four, at seven forty one, we thought we

824
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: were gonna go for forty five minutes. But this is

825
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 2: so much damn fun. I could do this all day.

826
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna guess Terry and Arld of Philly, Brian

827
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: Thomas to Jacksonville, we gotta stay for the Dallas pick.

828
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: I would say of all the teams in the league,

829
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, their coach is on the last year of

830
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: a contract, and I get it's not college football, so

831
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: recruiting that still doesn't happen in the pros. That's pretty weird.

832
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 1: And I actually don't blame them for the way they've

833
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: handled DAK, Like, why don't we just play this out?

834
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: Let's see, why do I have to give you another

835
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million dollars. Let's see you play

836
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: well in the playoffs. But the McCarthy thing, that thing

837
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: could get weird fast. You bring in Mike Zimmer, who

838
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: you know. Say you this about Dan Quinn. You could

839
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: argue Mike Zimmer might be a better defensive mine, but

840
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: he's an angry curmudgeon who's been a head coach with

841
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: some success. Jerry clearly likes him. Because he's from the

842
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: heyday of the Cowboys. They've lost some talent, kind of pressure.

843
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I know he's had a good couple of years in

844
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: the regular season, but their regular season is kind of

845
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: irrelevant now. They've been rattling off twelve wins for three

846
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: straight years and then they've been bounced in the first

847
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: round two of the last three years at home. So

848
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I this Dallas thing now. Luckily, here's the thing you

849
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: would say about Jerry in the operation. They do draft

850
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: pretty well. I mean they have been they have drafted

851
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: pretty well. They don't have a running back. I mean

852
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: you see they're sniffing around Zeke's back in the building.

853
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean they're kind of desperate. And it's not a

854
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: good running back draft. I don't know. I mean their

855
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: offensive skill guys aren't as good as they were a

856
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago.

857
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: I thought it would be a decent running back draft

858
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 2: a year ago. But Blake Koram's not a first or

859
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: a second round pick anymore. He's not the same running back.

860
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: He's more of a third or fourth off that injury.

861
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: He just does not have the pop I thought. I

862
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: thought he was going to be like a high second

863
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: when I was thanked him.

864
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite players.

865
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: So here we go.

866
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Well, you've had the stat forever about Dak's success with

867
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: running the ball right when he has to turn into

868
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It fails every time.

869
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: Every time repeat. There's literally a all right, Philly has

870
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: made their pick. There's literally a line of demarcation. If

871
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: he gets like one hundred yards rushing, Dak is an

872
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: A minus quarterback. Under it, he's a C plus.

873
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no Dak's made for Jim Harbaugh style

874
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: of playing right, play defense, run the ball, try to

875
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 1: throw it under thirty times, or Kyle Shanahan, Mike McCarthy's.

876
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean, really, what he likes to do is play

877
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: like he did in Green Bay with Aaron Rodgers and

878
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: throw the ball and not run it, even if he

879
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: technically ran it more than Kellen Moore.

880
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: The Eagles are taking Quinny and Mitchell the Toledos small

881
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: school corner.

882
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: That's shocking.

883
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: People like him.

884
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: He clearly was their top corner on the board Toledo.

885
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: You know, it's one of those you know what's funny, John,

886
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: There's two positions in football, running back and corner. You

887
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: could either play it or you can't. I mean, Sauce

888
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: Gardner Cincinnati was the best player in college football.

889
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: I thought that year.

890
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: It's there's certain positions that are sort of not bust proof,

891
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: but high school to college, college du pro. If you

892
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: can man up a guy in the corner, you're going

893
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 2: to play the first day on campus. And I tend

894
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: to think running back in corner, even if the situation

895
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect, Saquon Barkley was going to work everywhere when

896
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: Joe Mixon worked and they were all line was shit

897
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: his first two years in the league. Like I think corner,

898
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: if you look at this kid from Toledo, I don't

899
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 2: really worry too much in terms of school or competition

900
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: with running back in corner. First of all, there's a

901
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: twitchin a speed aspect. The clock tells you if they

902
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: can play, and I think this kid will end up

903
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: being well. First of all, he's a starter day one

904
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: for this team. They're a bit of a mess.

905
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: I gotta do some more research on him because just

906
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: looking at the first twenty two picks and listen, I

907
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: got my football start at Fresno State, where we had

908
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of first rounders. Those days are kind of

909
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: over with the transfer portal because the moment you become

910
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: a top one hundred pick as a freshman or sophomore,

911
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: these teams come after you. Honestly, the one weird team

912
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: on here before Toledo was University in North Carolina and

913
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: Nick Saban tried to give Drake May five million dollars

914
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: to come play at Alabama. I mean Colin this this

915
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: first round, USC LSU, Ohio State, Notre Dame, LSU, Bama, Washington, Washington,

916
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: Penn State, Oregon, UGA, you know, UCLA, Texas, Bama. It's

917
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: I think get ready for this moving forward because all

918
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: these Power five programs at the high end, they the

919
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 1: moment you become a high end player as a sophomore,

920
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: they get you on that phone and they say, transferred

921
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: to my program. I'll give you five hundred thousand dollars.

922
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: And these small schools can't keep the player. So this

923
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Toledo got. I just don't think we're gonna see much

924
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: of that, and honestly, we'll probably only see it once tonight.

925
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: If Brian Thomas the next guy off the board, that's LSU. Again.

926
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: It's just high end programs were used to we'd have

927
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: some random programs mixed in but now with the tree

928
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Answer portal and nil at the high end of the draft, man,

929
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: these big programs just have bigger pocketbooks.

930
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: Well, this kid's got almost a forty inch vertical, so

931
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: he's a prospect.

932
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's kind of weird seeing that I

933
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: got to do some digging, like how he didn't get

934
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: some more phone calls. Maybe he was offered, he stayed loyal,

935
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean not everyone's just jumping ship.

936
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: But well, and the other thing is, again, cornerbacks are interesting.

937
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 2: So I had talked I think it was Notre Dame

938
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 2: or somebody played Notre Dame, played Cincinnati and Sauce Gardener.

939
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: This is fuzzy, but like Notre Dame. Basically a source

940
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: told me they just didn't want to throw the ball.

941
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: They did, remember, they did like a home and home

942
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Notre Dame.

943
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: And people said, like Brian Kelly at the time, it's like, yeah,

944
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: we're just not I think it was Brian Kelly. Was

945
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: it two years ago, Yeah it was.

946
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah.

947
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: And Brian's like this, we're not going to throw it

948
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: his side of the ball. It's just we're not going

949
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: to do it. This kid doesn't have prodigious numbers. I

950
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: think he only had a couple of picks. But nobody

951
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: in Toledo's conference is throwing the ball to Quinn and

952
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: Mitchell's side of the ball. So again, cornerback and running back,

953
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 2: especially corner sometimes you know, teams just don't throw to

954
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: your side of the ball. To be a small school

955
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: first round cornerback who didn't look at tape and go,

956
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: We're going to the other side of the field. So

957
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 2: don't get too alarmed if you look at his numbers

958
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: and they don't jump off. This is not you know,

959
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 2: this is not the sec where sometimes you just you

960
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 2: have to throw at all corners because they're all NFL guys.

961
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, based on roster alone, the Eagles have no excuse assume,

962
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, assuming that they stay relatively healthy, did not

963
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: win the division, right, the Giants, they're not very good.

964
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: Washington's young. The Cowboys shouldn't have won the division last year,

965
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: but the Eagles fell apart. Now, the Eagles are spending

966
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: a lot of money on Fangio and Kellen Moore, and

967
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 1: there's tangible pressure this year on Jalen Right, he felt

968
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: like he took it a little step back last year.

969
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: It's like who Jacks do.

970
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: Look at this? In twenty twenty one, Mitchell for Toledo

971
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: played Notre Dame as a corner. He had a sack,

972
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: a forced fumble, two fumble recoveries. It's like a corner

973
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: so against good competition. Well, that's like a defensive end.

974
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: When you are a smaller school guy and you have

975
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: those moments against the big programs like saused against Notre

976
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: Dame or this guy when he plays remember Khalil Mack

977
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: at Buffalo played Ohio State and he had three sacks.

978
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: It's like that that that changes your trajectory as a

979
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: prospect because it's hard to evaluate half your games playing

980
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: playing me and you you know, but when you get

981
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play a top ten, top fifteen program

982
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: as a prospect a smaller school, you can kind of

983
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: change the hype on your own draft trajectory.

984
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: So Brian Thomas, Jacksonville twenty three, that's my hunch.

985
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, would I would agree?

986
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I mean they lost Calvin Ridley.

987
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 1: The Cowboys go wide receiver.

988
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: I see, I could see Dallas trading up one spot

989
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 2: to who Jacksonville. Brian Thomas just have to Brian Thomas

990
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: go to Jacksonville. We predicted it right, We predicted it

991
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes ago. Brian Thomas, wide receiver.

992
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: I think if you're Dallas, you gotta feel pretty good

993
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: about your defense. You got multiple dbs who are impact players.

994
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: You got highly paid guys in your defensive line. All

995
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: the offense, most of the top offensive linemen are off

996
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: the board. I don't know how you don't go skill

997
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: guy here. I mean, besides Cede Lamb, who do you

998
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: feel great about? I guess that Ferguson's a solid tight end,

999
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 1: but you have no really solid now.

1000
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think wide receivers the play here. Who's the

1001
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: best wide receiver?

1002
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: Well, that's probably up for debate. You know a lot

1003
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: of people like the Georgia mcconkee, Kid we Worthy weighs

1004
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds. Worthy Worthy Dak do not

1005
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: feel like a fit, do they?

1006
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: No, Dak's not a terribly accurate thrower and Worthy is tiny.

1007
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be different if you could get like,

1008
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas is a big target, Roma Dunze is a

1009
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: big target, Harrison. You can't give me a small target

1010
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: with an inaccurate quarterback. You know, if you're gonna have

1011
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 2: a smaller target. Give me a Matt Stafford, Give me

1012
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: an Aaron Rodgers. Give me a guy who's a pinpoint thrower, Mahomes,

1013
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: a guy that's a little wild. I mean, I just

1014
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 2: don't think Dak's ever been an elite, a plus arm guy.

1015
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: I could see Dallas, I'll be honest with you. I

1016
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: could see Dallas trading out of this thing.

1017
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could too. I could too. And maybe one

1018
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: of those teams. I mean, is this a spot where

1019
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: could Kansas City come up? You know, I don't worthy.

1020
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 1: I think has some question marks off the field. Andy.

1021
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: They just had that situation with Rice, you know, I

1022
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: don't know if they want to bring multiple question marks

1023
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: into that wide receiver room. It's one thing to have one,

1024
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: but if you got two of your six guys.

1025
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 2: All right, So, folks, we've been doing this all night.

1026
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: This is our final pick for John.

1027
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: And I take a shocker of the night.

1028
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: Panis Panix at eight. The biggest shocker. I think a

1029
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: lot of it's been predictable. I think the fact that

1030
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 2: no defensive players went until the fifteenth pick is historically shocking.

1031
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 2: You know, John, the player that I worry about a

1032
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: Marius Mims at Cincinnati is one of those where I'm

1033
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: a little gun shy, guy's got no starts that worries me.

1034
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: In a division with excellent pass rushes that worries me.

1035
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: That's a good defensive division.

1036
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: I'd say that the pick that I just and I

1037
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: know they had to do it. But Drake May first

1038
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: time head coach, who's young, who's been coaching for five years,

1039
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: who was a player seven years ago, who has all

1040
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: this negativity surrounding the organization, that's a tough spot. Yeah,

1041
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: we talked about some of these spots. Caleb's in a

1042
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: great spot, JJ's in a great spot. Bo Nicks gets

1043
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Drake May gets Jerrod Mayow, Jonathan Kraft and

1044
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: no one around him. Gronkowski and Edelman ain't walking through

1045
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: that door.

1046
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's it is Lean I mean, it's Devonte Parker,

1047
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: It's it's is Juju Smiths Schuster.

1048
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Still the Yeah, the conference is good. Think of all

1049
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in that conference. That's tough. Now he technically

1050
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: they got Jacoby Brissette. He doesn't have to start right away,

1051
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: but you go one in five, who the hell is

1052
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: gonna want to watch Jakobe Brissette. You know, so this

1053
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: guy is gonna get thrown to the fire. It always happens,

1054
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 1: and he just like.

1055
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 2: New England's New England's O lines. Okay, so my guess

1056
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: is New England goes heavy tight end receiver back because

1057
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 2: they went they went big interior. They went three guards

1058
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 2: last year, so the interior O line is good.

1059
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I got another one, which again the guy is a

1060
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: fantastic prospect. But Malik Neighbors of the Giants, they have

1061
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, who's awful coming off in a cl and

1062
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: de vido. I mean, what that's not gonna work. I

1063
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: mean when they drafted Odell Beckham, you know Eli could

1064
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: still play and Eli always had a big arm. I mean,

1065
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Neighbors is a down the field, stretched the field speak

1066
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: guy Daniel Owns is like a poor man's Alex Smith

1067
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: on his best day. It's dunkin and duncan so is.

1068
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: They don't have a quarterbacks what. This guy's a good player.

1069
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: I get why they drafted him, but the fit for

1070
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: the team, I don't know if that's really helping you

1071
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: this year.

1072
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it can't hurt. He's he's very much a

1073
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 2: y can't hurt God, there's just so many good players.

1074
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: There was that run of once the Colts went with

1075
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: Law two, the next top d lineman basically went in

1076
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: the next four picks Murphy Turner than Mims, than Verse.

1077
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things where they say you

1078
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: wait on the run, and then once the run starts,

1079
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: you know you got to get involved. Kind of why

1080
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota trade it up right away because they could see

1081
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: it coming.

1082
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: What I'm really fascinated to watch is bo Nix in

1083
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: Denver because I literally think he went to the perfect coach.

1084
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: I think JJ McCarthy and Bo Nicks have limitations. They

1085
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: literally landed in the perfect spot. Bo Nicks is gonna

1086
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: play immediately at sixty one college starts. They're not f around.

1087
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna play Bow next. They're not gonna wait. Bo's

1088
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: I had Bow on my show for about twenty minutes,

1089
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: talk to him ten minutes off the air before he

1090
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: came on and after. Bow's really smart. Bo's dad was

1091
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: a coach. He was a five star. Remember he was

1092
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: a five star Southern recruit. People forget this Bowl was.

1093
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: Remember his first start was against Oregon. Wasn't that game

1094
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: against Herbert that was his first ever start. Remember that,

1095
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: like twenty nineteen or twenty I do, And it was

1096
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: a fantastic game. Came right down the freshman, wasn't he.

1097
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1098
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: I think he played really well in that game. Then

1099
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: it all kind of was downhill after that.

1100
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: True fresh So you was like eighteen years old, Yes,

1101
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 2: he was a freshman. I remember that game and Auburn

1102
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: won late and if I recall, bo had a very

1103
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: good late drive to win the game for Auburn over Oregon.

1104
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 2: I remember that game.

1105
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not listen. I think he's overdrafted for the league. Yeah,

1106
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: but I completely understand the fit with Sean Payton. And

1107
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: let's face it, you talk about this all the time

1108
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: anyone that fall football does. Where you go and who

1109
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: you fit with. You put Brock Purty with girod Mayo,

1110
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: No one's talking about Brock party. You put Brock Purty

1111
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: with with Kyle Shanahan. Mats Stafford was good no matter

1112
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: where he got. You get him to Sean McVay, it's

1113
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: lights out right, so you get the hot Patrick Mahomes

1114
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: probably would have been Okay, he gets with Andy Reid

1115
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: all time great. So bow Nicks definitely has a chance.

1116
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Remember Sean tried to do that pivot with Taysom, but

1117
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: Taysom couldn't throw the ball, but he wanted that athletic guy.

1118
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: Now he gets a quarterback that can move like this

1119
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: guy can throw Taysom couldn't.

1120
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: Really, Hey, Teddy Bridgewater went five and zero backing up Breeze.

1121
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 2: Teddy is closer to a bon Nix in terms of

1122
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: size arm strength. So, I mean Peyton's career is Breeze

1123
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater. Bone Nicks is the fit. I was told

1124
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: very early that he did prefer Bonnicks to Michael Pennox.

1125
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: I was told that very early in the process.

1126
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: It's his offense more for sure, He's not.

1127
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: No. I mean, listen, Shanahan, like Kirk Cousins, these these

1128
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: a lot of these guys, they've got fits. I mean,

1129
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 2: like Kyle's very much tied to his play sheet. And

1130
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 2: by the way, so is Sean Payton, so is Lincoln Riley.

1131
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: Now McVeigh isn't as much, Lufleur isn't as much. But

1132
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 2: some of these offensive guys have a play sheet. And

1133
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 2: that's why this year Caleb with the Battle Line did

1134
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: a lot of ad limbings out of Lincoln Riley's playshet

1135
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: and so us. He has this kid Miller Moss. He's

1136
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: gonna follow the sheet, which I think Lincoln's gonna like.

1137
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: Well, I think Kevin O'Connell is really more of a

1138
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: disciple the way he thinks about football, more closer to

1139
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Kyle and Sean than he than Sean Payton, than Sean McVay,

1140
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: who kind of wants Jean mcvay's a little closer to

1141
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, you know, the way he wants to coach

1142
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: and throw it. Its just I'll tell you where to

1143
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: throw it. You get rid of the ball, the guy

1144
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: will be open. If he's not, go quick to the

1145
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: other guy.

1146
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 4: If not, just get rid.

1147
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: Of the ball and we'll just call another play. So

1148
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: I would imagine Kyle Shanahan, Sean Payton, you know, obviously,

1149
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, the JJ McCarthy bo Knicks, just play under control,

1150
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: high completion percentage and do what I tell you, and

1151
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: a smart, high character guy's type guys they like. And

1152
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: again it's depending on what Andy Reid wants to go deep, right,

1153
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: that's historically what he likes to do, So he likes

1154
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: a certain type quarterback. Donovan McNabb, Michael Vick or Patrick

1155
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: mahomes with a big arm. What makes him so special

1156
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: is he can pivot, no problem. You give him Alex Smith,

1157
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: he can win eleven games. Most guys kind of struggle

1158
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: once they find the middle ground.

1159
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: All right, one more pick. We will have been on

1160
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: officially two hours. You know what, man, it's been great.

1161
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 6: This thing is.

1162
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: What's your guess on how many millions if people watched

1163
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: the first hour of this thing with these quarterbacks?

1164
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I think this will be the most

1165
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: watch draft easily. And my guess is it will beat

1166
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: the NBA games tonight signific destroy them, Yeah, hammer them.

1167
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: My guess. Last year had eleven million viewers between the

1168
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 2: two networks. I thought it was my guess it'll be

1169
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: closer to thirteen. Now again, Lakers do have an AUDI.

1170
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean New York and LA are playing NBA games.

1171
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't.

1172
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be the first hour because you Chicago

1173
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: dialed in Washington and these are massive markets, right Boston,

1174
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: The Giants all in the top. I've at the top

1175
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: six like that first forty five minutes of the draft.

1176
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was one.

1177
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 2: It peaked all right, Dallas is traded the pick. But dude,

1178
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: we have been freaking on it tonight. We predicted Dallas

1179
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: would trade the pick. And so the Cowboys traded to

1180
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. And so how many did they drop?

1181
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 2: Four spots? Three spots?

1182
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lions would be picking twenty nine.

1183
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so they already made their selection. So let's just

1184
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: stick around for what Detroit drafts.

1185
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: So we You know one thing that worked when I

1186
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: was with the Eagles my first year, I got sent

1187
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: to Radio City Music Hall and it was cool. You

1188
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: remember when the draft was there forever, This traveling circus

1189
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: thing they got going feels like a bigger event, doesn't

1190
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: it with all these people. I mean, it's it's it

1191
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: pops on television.

1192
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: They had one hundred fifty thousand people at this two

1193
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: hours before. That's what it did. I mean, that doesn't

1194
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: make sense. That's like the Obama speech in Chicago.

1195
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like this this move by the by the NFL

1196
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: League office. Rogers, Ben Genius, it all right.

1197
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: Detroit Tarrian Arnold cornerback, absolute need. Jeff Acodo a couple

1198
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: of years ago into Ohio State was a kind of

1199
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: a bust. So not a surprise at all. They go

1200
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 2: corner again. The outside the Amarus mimes Cincinnati little concerning

1201
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: for me. It's a bit of a risk. He didn't

1202
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 2: play much outside of that kind of predictable, I mean,

1203
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: so let's go back and review. Michael Pennox to Atlanta

1204
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: is the shock of the draft?

1205
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: It's it.

1206
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1207
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: We were talking bo Nick's Denver a month ago that

1208
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: that maybe a reach.

1209
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: For six months. JJ McCarthy to Minnesota. I think the

1210
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: only thing shocking there is that Minnesota didn't have to

1211
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: trade too far up and they ended up coming out

1212
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: of this draft with both their picks and they got

1213
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Dallas Turner, they got They gotta feel pretty

1214
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: good about that.

1215
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: This has been fun, Buddy.

1216
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Enjoyed it. How do you beat the first round of

1217
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft?

1218
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god? This is this is an adult video,

1219
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 2: adult entertainment for.

1220
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: John and I. This is how it really is.

1221
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: The only thing missing was a cocktail. Jesus, all right,

1222
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: I'll be on FS one tomorrow, John middlecoff three and out, Buddy,

1223
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: this is we were gonna go forty minutes. We're two

1224
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: hours in.

1225
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: If we got a second and third round tomorrow, Colin

1226
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: so uh all the podcasts out Friday Night.

1227
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: See you, buddy.

1228
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 5: The volume