1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called 6 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our superproducer Paul. 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: Mission control decands. Most importantly, you are you, You are here, 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: and that makes this the stuff they don't want you 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: to know. This is one of our favorite times of 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: the week. This is our weekly listener mail segment where 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: we comb through social media. We go deep into our 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: voicemail q We get messages from email as well from 13 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, whispers in the Dark, a Crossroads at midnight, 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: and we pick just a few each week to share 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: with you, our fellow conspiracy realists. We're going to talk 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: a little bit about peanut allergies. We're going to talk 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: about urban exploration and strange abandoned places. And before we 18 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: do any of that, we want to we want to 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: share with you an excellent piece of correspondence from one 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: of our fellow listeners in Iran now full disclosure. We 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: went back and forth about whether to put this at 22 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the very end, or to put it at the very top. UM, 23 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from a person going by the name 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: of Unwilling Stardust a bit of background before we dive 25 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: into this. UH. This is lengthy correspondence, so we are 26 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: going to share excerpts if you would like to. UH. 27 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: If you'd like to read the entire thing, you can 28 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: pink us and penning permission of our conspiracy realist. Here 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: we can share it in full. But if you have 30 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: been paying attention to the news, regardless of where you live, 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: you are likely aware that Iran is now embroiled in 32 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: um a lot of instability due to protest and it's 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately accurate to say that much of the reporting about 34 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: this from the West is often riddled with propaganda because 35 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the US and its allies are geopolitical enemies of Iran 36 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: and its allies. As always, as we always say, no 37 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: matter which country you look at at any time in history, 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: the people are not the government. So you have to remember, 39 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: no matter how vilified a country maybe in your local 40 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: news or your news sources, that country is made up 41 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: of people just like you, and many, many, many of them, 42 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: the vast majority have no will say in the actions 43 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: of their country, sometimes on the international sphere and often 44 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: even in the domestic sphere. So with that preface, here 45 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: we go. We're just gonna share, share as much as 46 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: we can here of the story of unwilling Stardust. She begins, 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: dear stuff, they don't want you to know. Hello. I 48 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: hope you're well. I wish I could say the same 49 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: by now. I imagine you've heard of what is happening 50 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: of the demonstration in Iran, but I assume there aren't 51 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: a lot of English resources with flash news covering the 52 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: whole situation unbiased. Of course, I didn't want to send 53 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: you this email. For a very long time. I tend 54 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: to avoid these situations. But today is not the day 55 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: for being scared. And this is the least I can 56 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: do for my people, the ones that are dying in 57 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: the streets fighting for the minimum amount of human rights. Today, 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I have no choice but to start talking. Today. I 59 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: am going to break the silence my own and the 60 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: one standing in the way of information between our nations 61 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: as this goes. While I stand on the bloody pages 62 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: of history as it's being written, I wish to do 63 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: justice by covering this situation as much as I can. 64 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: And here we'll we'll go to some excerpts. Unwilling Stardust 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: says something that some of our other contacts in Iran 66 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: have confirmed, uh, their widespread Internet restrictions more so than usual. Uh, 67 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: there are tons of apps being banned or filtered on 68 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: people's mobile devices, and of course there's a pretty pervasive 69 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: monitoring program. As a matter of fact, Unwilling start Ust 70 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: is conscious the entire time they're writing of the fact 71 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: that their Internet may be cut off at any moment. 72 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: So this act, as it might sound simple if you 73 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: have not lived in an oppressive regime, but this act 74 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: of sending an email is tremendously courageous and should be 75 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: acknowledged as such. So she continues, I am a twenty 76 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: year old girl living in Iran with a massive interest 77 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: in sociology. I've been raised in a family deep into politics, 78 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: meaning that I grew up learning how to see the 79 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: truth behind the scene of what we are presented with. 80 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: But today is different. There's no longer hiding, pretending, or covering. 81 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: The government has become what it always was, behind the shadows. 82 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: There have been situations like this throughout my life when 83 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: people wanted to attend a peaceful protest, but their simple 84 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: demonstration turned into a battlefield with an unfair war against them, 85 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: getting shot, killed, tortured, and detacked. And she continues, as 86 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: I am writing this email, gunshots are ringering in my ear, 87 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: echoing from everywhere in the streets, as the screams of 88 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: the protesters get lost in the sounds of sirens. This was, 89 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: by the way, sent to us on September twenty two, 90 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: so this is still very recent. Uh, and unwilling to 91 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: start us, wants to document her experience of what's happening 92 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: on the ground, and she UH, a structure or is 93 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: this the same way we structure our episodes beginning with 94 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: here are the facts? And she mentions how a young 95 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: woman and her brother came to Tehran, the capital of 96 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: the country, to research a new university that she was 97 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: going to matriculate in, but their journey was cut short 98 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: at the train station when the moral police of Iran 99 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: arrested her for disobeying the hijab law, or the covering 100 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: of one's head, and she begged them not to take her. 101 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: She said, they're not you know, we're not from Tehran. 102 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: We haven't done anything wrong, She is abducted into a 103 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: van and unwilling to start us as this is the 104 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: typical protocol. It's nothing new, It's how you were treated 105 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: for being a woman in this country. She says. This 106 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: is also not why I'm mad, and she goes by 107 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: giving the blow by blow here. This is tremendously unpleasant, folks, 108 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: she says. The authorities tell her brother her to come 109 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: pick her up roughly an hour later at this address 110 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: they give him. He finds the place and he's this 111 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: is a young kid, he's sixteen years old. He eventually 112 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: finds the place, and when he goes to pick up 113 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: his sister, all he learns is that she is in 114 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: critical condition. She is in a life or death situation. 115 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: When he starts to argue about why his sister is 116 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: beating up like that, they attack him with tear gas. 117 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: He calls their father, gives him an address of the hospital, 118 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,559 Speaker 1: finds the hospital. They find his sister there, but they're 119 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: told to go away because she is in a coma 120 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: and they can't meet her. Later that day, they learned 121 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: she has died. The official explanation a heart attack, and Uh, 122 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: unwilling to start us, points out that a lot of 123 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: people have a problem with that official conclusion, and she 124 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: says that the police narrative here is clearly false or 125 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: has a lot of holes in it. And then here's 126 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: where he gets crazy. She says, I'm reporting this event 127 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: live because I'm not sure how much of it will 128 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: be censored until it reaches the other side of the world, 129 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: which is us here on this show, and she lays 130 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: out a very compelling case of a conspiracy on the 131 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: part of law enforcement in the country, and how it 132 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: resulted in this young girl's death, even pointing out that 133 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: her clothing was not technically against the law. This is 134 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: very well documented. It comes with our Our fellow conspiracy 135 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: realists has given us multiple sources, many of which are Western, 136 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and has done all the legwork for us. I believe 137 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: that we may need to cover the protests and ron 138 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: and the fallout in an episode very soon. I want 139 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: to stop here with the praise of the letter as 140 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: well as the updates unwilling start US has given us 141 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: with time codes, which I knew you would appreciate. Matt 142 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: um right uh with with this again, not sharing too 143 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: much of the letter here out of concerns for anonymity. 144 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: How aware were you guys of the protests, the ongoing 145 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: protests in Iran. I've started to see it really blow 146 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 1: up on social media, and I'm sort of embarrassed to 147 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: say that I have not dug in much deeper um 148 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: than just the surface level, which is sad considering how 149 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: it affects human lives, and yet it's just another in 150 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: the long line of things in our feeds. Um. This 151 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: has really slapped me into reality and made me much 152 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: more aware that I need to do that thing I 153 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: share maybe unwilling to start us sentiment here that and 154 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: what you said at the beginning, there have been that 155 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the reporting I've seen on this does 156 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: come from Western sources. We do know that the United 157 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: States and Iran have a very strange relationship, and it 158 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: weirds me out because any major protests occurring in Iran 159 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: makes me feel suspect about possible outside involvement and push 160 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: pushing narratives right, pushing things on social media on purpose 161 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: to make sure it becomes the biggest story. But in 162 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: this case, there are massive protests on the ground that 163 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: that you can see on the social media side that 164 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about. All you can see the actual pictures. 165 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: We aren't just relying on pictures from news outlets to 166 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: see what's happening. Um, We're hearing reports from people on 167 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: the ground experiencing right now, like startusts, so I'm less 168 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: skeptical of it. It's just awful. It's a terrible situation 169 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: to be killed for what you're wearing because it doesn't 170 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: meet the stringent needs of any religion. Yeah, and the 171 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: it's important to note the the conspiracy, the cover up 172 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: that I'm willing to start us is right into us. 173 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: About is a different individual from the one who died 174 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: whose death is seemed to have sparked the protests. That 175 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: is Massa amini uh and pardon of course, unwilling Stardust 176 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: and other friends and fellow listeners in Tehran. We are 177 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: not native Farsi speakers, so we are doing our best 178 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: and we do have your back here. Am I wrong 179 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: that this is somebody who died while like during the 180 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: protests that was picked up or is this a whole 181 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: separate thing? This is I mean, this is what we 182 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: have to realize. This is reaching a systemic crisis level. 183 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: There are multiple victims here, the origin, the genesis of 184 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: the protests. You know, you would see the footage of 185 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: women burning head scars and demanding reform, right, and there's 186 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: been a lot of public descent about reform in Iran 187 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: for quite some time now. The protests have spread to 188 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: over eight towns and cities in the country. It's broad based, 189 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: a lot of it is spontaneous. Is as a new TESHAMI, 190 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: the professor at Gerham University in England puts it, These 191 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: are not pockets of protest. This is not like a 192 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: one city movement. Uh. This is engulfing the country and 193 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: I share, you know, sadly some of the same skepticism 194 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: you describe when I see news like this, Matt. Uh, 195 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: it's spread now, like women and girls are the driving 196 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: forced by the protests, but other students are joining in, 197 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: male students, soccer celebrities, workers going on strike well. And 198 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: these these types of protests are usually led by that 199 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: echelon of of society, you know, and then other parts 200 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: of the world as well. And things like this also 201 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: really draw attended to the fact that while you know, 202 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: you could be hyperbolic and say that the United States 203 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: is inching towards totalitarianism or has been. Um, it's certainly 204 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: you know, shows the stark difference between you know, how 205 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: protesters are treated here versus how they're treated in other 206 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: parts of the country. Um not to say that they're 207 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: aren't massive inequalities here and massive problems and you know, 208 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: police brutality and government crackdowns and things like that, but 209 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: it's just not the same, agreed, And we also know 210 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: the story that Williams start us as telling us is 211 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: one example again of multiple horrific events. She links to 212 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: a pretty comprehensive series of tweets and you know, honestly, 213 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: in repressive regimes, twitter can be Twitter has a lot 214 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: of problems, let's admit it, but Twitter can be an 215 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: incredibly effective way of circumventing government controls over information and calms. 216 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: So she talks about how a ten year old was 217 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: murdered amid the protest. Students were getting expelled for fighting. Allegedly, 218 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: people are injured, but they're not going to hospitals because 219 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: they believe, with good reason, they'll be arrested. There are 220 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: reports of unarmed citizens being shot in the middle of 221 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: the street or shot at the police have also apparently 222 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: murdered fifteen year old boy. You can like. The list 223 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: goes on and it's terrifying stuff. I want to end 224 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: with again, these are just excerpts of a much longer, 225 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: excellently written letter I want to end with unwilling start 226 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: us final statement tonight the wars fought with acid attacks 227 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: and guns. More than two d people are killed and 228 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: only one city that I am aware of in just 229 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: one night, the night I am typing, this Internet is 230 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: disconnecting in all cities. We're getting cornered. Wish us luck world, 231 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: we need it the most now. It's powerful, it's somber stuff. 232 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: And again, you know, we say often that you listening 233 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: are the most important part of the show. It's true, 234 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: it won't exist without you. But also over the years 235 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: we have we have all I think, become pretty pretty close. 236 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, a long time list nerds. We've been there 237 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: with you in some very amazing moments of your life 238 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: and some harrowing moments, and honestly the same could be 239 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: said of you being there for us. So to the 240 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: people of Iran, we have your back. We know that 241 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: we are on the outside looking in, but we would 242 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: love to bring more visibility to this uh potentially in 243 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: a future episode, and to do our best in this regard. 244 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: We need your help. 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This one 284 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: comes from one of my favorite ills, non diplomes nonda 285 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: internets of a coinky dink because I look at it 286 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: and I see the word coin because coinky and then 287 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I see Kake. I don't know, it's just fun there. 288 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on there. Um, I'll just dive 289 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: right into it. This is sort of about, um, the 290 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: idea of allergies and what that actually means big picture. 291 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: Hi S td W I T K T M. I 292 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: appreciated the book reading Assassination episode. I've ordered the book, 293 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: looking forward to reading it. Hey, our viral marketing is working. 294 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Pablo Co Winky Dinks, lead and get the book. It's 295 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: out now. You can get the audio book if that's 296 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: your bag. I'm an audio book guy. If you want 297 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: to hear Ben and Matt and myself read you a story, 298 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: multiple stories, you can do that, or you can order 299 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: the actual book. It is a lovely piece of of 300 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: of literature with the illustrations by our buddy Admiral Turbot 301 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: Nick Benson. Going on with email, I wanted to share 302 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: some thoughts. This one's been back burning in my mind 303 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: for a while. The peanut allergy. So why the rise 304 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: in people allergic to peanuts? You know, peanuts is off 305 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: you know off the email. It is one that you like, 306 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: they make a big deal about. If you have kids, 307 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: there's certain you know, if you have a kid with 308 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: a peanut allergy and your kids like peer group or whatever, 309 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: no peanut butter, No you can't bring like eat my kid. 310 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: You know, went to a smaller private school a while back, 311 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: and there was one kid that had a peanut allergy 312 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: and no one was allowed to bring peanuts because it 313 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: can be inhaled. Like, I mean, there are like it's 314 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: very serious. Peanut allergies can cause people to go into 315 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: anaphylactic shock and potentially die. It's a serious like like 316 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: a shellfish allergy. Like it's a big deal. So why 317 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: the rise in people with peanut allergies? So my thoughts 318 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: are this, the peanut growers changed something in their process, 319 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: maybe modify the seeds, changed pesticides, fungicides or herbicides, or 320 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: introduced something into the soil. So here's what I've found. 321 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: The uptick of allergic reactions starts around the nineteen nineties. 322 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: The peanut growers are advised to rotate crops with bahia grass. 323 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm not sorry if I'm not pronouncing that right. Bahia grass. 324 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: Bahia grass causes severe allergic reactions. Uh. And then there's 325 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: quite a few good links um that COINKI think is 326 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: provided I think there's Bahia grass or similar allergens being 327 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: grown into the peanuts, and this is my own commentary, 328 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: or at the very least on the surface of them, 329 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, like being transmitted with them. UM. While doing 330 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: some searching to explain to my grandmother why the modern 331 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: flower UH was not nearly as good for her tortilla 332 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: making abilities, I came across this video for modern wheat 333 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: versus ancient iron corn. I had to google this iron 334 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: corn um or also known as emma, or maybe they're 335 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: just too related. Um. Early forms of wheat are apparently 336 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: very very similar, higher in fiber and protein than standard 337 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: modern wheat, and they have more antioxidants and nutrients. But 338 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing that interested me. Um. Iron corn according 339 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: to a couple of sources that I found UH is 340 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: the only wheat never hybridized and it has only two 341 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: sets of chromosomes. UM. So that's very interesting. So going 342 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: on with email my thoughts keep looking for explanations. We 343 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: thought my daughter was allergic to strawberries, but most likely 344 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: it's the pollens, mold, spores, or other contaminants on the berries, 345 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: not the berries themselves. If I rub them while rinsing them, underwater, 346 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: she'll have no reaction, but only running water on them, 347 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: and she'll have hives. Another burning thought in the back 348 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: of my mind, how did we survive so long without 349 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: knowing about r H factors in blood. We'll get back 350 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to that in just a second. Does that explain more 351 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: lost pregnancies that have may have been attributed to diseases, environment, 352 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: or hygiene. Could this be another reason why it was 353 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: favorable to inbreed or marry within one's family. Um, And 354 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: then there's there's a few more great links and then 355 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: love the show Colinky Dink. So the idea of r 356 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: H blood factor, this is the thing. It's called the 357 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: recess factor. And I'm reading this from Medical News today, 358 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: so this is my first encounter with this. So I'm 359 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: just gonna read it directly and I'd love to hear 360 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: you all thoughts. UM. The recess factor or r H factor, 361 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: is a protein that may be present on the surface 362 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: of red blood cells. If RBCs contain red blood cells 363 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: UM contain the r H antigen, they are RH positive, 364 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: and if not, they are RH negative. It's important to 365 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: know a person's r H factor to ensure that they 366 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: receive compatible blood. So that's you know, to do with transfusions, 367 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: but it seems that it also can have to do 368 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: with allergies. Uh and how you know you are affected 369 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: by certain allergens? Um, But I don't know what what 370 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: do you guys think about? You know, the idea of 371 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: rotating a crop as important, you know, staple crop as peanuts, 372 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: you know, old George Washington Carver and like the gazillions 373 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: of uses for peanuts and peanut oil and like, I mean, 374 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I feel like Bubba and you know Forrest Gump talking 375 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: about the different you is of sump. But I mean peanuts. Obviously, 376 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: peanut butter is a huge staple food. It's very affordable, 377 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: it's very high in protein. It's massively popular in the 378 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: United States and other countries. I'm sure, um, the are 379 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 1: responsible for what I think is the best sauce on 380 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: the planet. Oh yeah, yeah, it's fantastic. It's fantastic. Um. 381 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: But the idea that it's recommended that they rotated with 382 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: this other grass that I'm not aware of. We know 383 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: about crop rotation. That's a that's a way of you know, 384 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: making sure you're conserving your soil and keeping the nutrients 385 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: rich and not depleting the soil because one crop without 386 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: rotation will do just that, so if you rotate it 387 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: out with another one, it kind of strikes this balance. 388 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: But if you're rotating it with something that is more 389 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: of an allergen, then is it that thing that is 390 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: somehow leaching into the soil. And again, I'm not a 391 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a botanist. I don't know. I'm not literally 392 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: just going by what what was in Quinkydink's email and 393 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: some of the sources. But I'm interested to see what 394 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: you and Matt think about that possibility. I mean, it 395 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: is known that this this grass in particular does have 396 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: a damaging effect, like it can cause allergic reactions. It 397 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: might be a little bit different, though this is such 398 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: an intriguing concept here, Quinky Dink, it might be a 399 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: little bit different, But I see where we're going with 400 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: the strawberry example. People would confirm peanut allergies can also 401 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: often have what's called cross reactivity, meaning you could also 402 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: you're going to have a higher than average likelihood of 403 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: being allergic to soy or tree nuts as well even 404 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: ps and lentils, which I wasn't aware of. But from 405 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: what we understand, this is um a what's called a 406 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: type one hyper sensitivity reaction of the immune system. Right, 407 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 1: that's what happens to people who have peanut allergy. Gee, Um, 408 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: you're right too, You're absolutely right that there is a 409 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: increase in peanut allergies. But I haven't found too much 410 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: linking that specifically to this crop rotation idea. And I'm wondering, 411 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: you know again, know, like you, I'm not the expert here, 412 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: but I'm wondering what causes Like that's just a very interesting, 413 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: um concept. We know that people can be sort of 414 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: desensitized to peanut allergies, right, it can be prevented through 415 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: diet of the of the carrying parent when the child 416 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: is in the womb. Um, I think you can also 417 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: decrease the risk if you give them peanut proteins between 418 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: like four to eleven months old. Fascinating stuff. I mean, Matt, 419 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: what what do you think? Do you know? Do you 420 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: guys know anybody with a peanut allergy? Personally? My I 421 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: got a nephew who had a pen an allergy for 422 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: a long time, even though his mom my sister uh 423 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 1: took great pains to expose him to peanuts early on, 424 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: Like did all the right things. Uh, he still ended 425 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: up being pretty allergic. But now he's not allergic to peanuts, 426 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: but he's got a tree nut allergy. And you know, 427 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just really tough because as a as a 428 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: parent or somebody you know, living with an allergy like that, 429 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: you really do have to be super cautious just going 430 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: through life. And you know, in order for that child 431 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: or person to be safe, you do have to take 432 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: great pains, like getting on an entire school or you know, 433 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: anybody who's going to interact with a certain class to agree, okay, 434 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: we're not gonna, you know, have any of this stuff 435 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: anywhere near anyway. I think that's why they stopped serving 436 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: peanuts on flights too. They just do they do almonds. Now, 437 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: you don't. You don't see little packets of peanuts anymore, 438 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: because I think it grew to such a concern that 439 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: they didn't want to be responsible for accidentally exposing someone 440 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: to peanuts in a closed system. And I don't they 441 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: to switch them out when they find out someone has 442 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: a peanut allergy. I think there was like better safe 443 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: than sorry. Yeah, it's a weird concept when you think 444 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: about you know, when I'm talking about those great pains 445 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: and like what we'll do to protect one person or 446 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: very very small number of humans amongst us, you know 447 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: the I it's weird to me that we do that. 448 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really good, right. Everybody deserves, you know, 449 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: to to be treated in that way. It's just strange, 450 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: like as a society that we I guess to do that. 451 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: I don't know whether allergies are the causes of certain 452 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: things or like the degree to which allergies I don't know. 453 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like the idea of I'm allergic to this. 454 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people say that just 455 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: because they think that they've been around something. It's it's true, 456 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: uh to a degree. Because we have to remember that 457 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: you can take uh, you can take test right. You 458 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: can go to a medical professional to help suss out 459 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: specific allergies. Right. They basically give you a tiny little 460 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: taste of the thing and then they see what the 461 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: poke does. Ation you can see if something weird happens 462 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: to your skin. Uh, But it is true your point. Uh. 463 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're they're self reported cases of analogy, right, Like 464 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: someone may have uh may have incorrectly attributed like a 465 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: spot of diarrhea or something to uh, some kind of allergy, 466 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: right and make sense in their mind, but they didn't 467 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: have a doctor check it out, you know. And of course, 468 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: let's be honest, in the US, you often won't be 469 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: able to afford to have a doctor check it out. 470 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: But we do know allergies are real. People may people 471 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: may think they have allergies and there may be another explanation, 472 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: or they may be allergic to something else, right that 473 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: they associate with the the culprit in their mind. Uh, 474 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: this I mean, but still it is. It can be very, 475 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: very dangerous. And one of the questions that I always 476 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: think we should tackle with this kind of stuff, is 477 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: our allergy is the peanut allergy trend? Is it rising? 478 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Or are there better diagnostic tools? Like? Think about it? 479 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: If you look back at the nineties, right, if you 480 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: look back and say, the eighteen nineties, how many people 481 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: were dying of peanut allergies, We honestly do not know. 482 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: They were too busy dying of the plague. I think 483 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: for anyone to worry about brain fever, you know, left 484 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: footedness or whatever. Uh No, it's a really good point. 485 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: But we've sort of like a you know, kind of 486 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: like done them done the homework at this point and 487 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: have been able to separate, you know, what the thing is, 488 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: and then we've been able to kind of isolate a 489 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: little better over time, you know what the cause of 490 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: certain maladies might be. I think it's a really really 491 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: good point. Um. I do still think the prop rotation 492 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: idea is interesting. I don't know if it's accurate or not, 493 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: but I think it's it's it was worth chatting about 494 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, because then the idea is implicitly 495 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: that the crop rotation is changing something about the peanut, right, 496 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: or adding some contaminant to the peanut. In that case, 497 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: then logically what we would be saying is that peanut 498 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: allergies are on the rise because something different is occurring 499 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: with the peanuts themselves, right, or the things associated with them. 500 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: So there are two like they're too fascinating questions here, 501 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: and they're and they're difficult to answer, you know, I 502 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: um I. We also know that uh, crop rotation leads 503 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: to superior peanut yields, like it's better for if you're 504 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: a peanut farmer, you know, like Jimmy Carter once upon 505 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: a time, that it's better for you to rotate crops 506 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: because you'll produce more product also though, I mean, you know, 507 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the f d A is very aware of these types 508 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: of things and a concerned about allergies and all of 509 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: that stuff, and would you know, certainly be overseeing if 510 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: adulterants that could potentially hurt people ended up in scaled 511 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: uh agricultural operations. And we know, like if you go 512 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: to places like Peanut Allergy dot com, then you can 513 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: you can see that people have been thinking about this 514 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: for some time on on this website um one of 515 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: their forms. I've found a very similar idea to yours quinkadin, 516 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: which asked the question, could the process of crop rotation 517 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: combined with food harvesting mean that peanuts end up getting 518 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: in something else causing more peanut reactions or could it 519 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: be contaminating something about the peanuts themselves. It's a it's 520 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: a tough one. My mind feels like it's playing with 521 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: a Rubik's cube, you know what I mean? Yeah, now, 522 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: it's true, it's something worth considering and looking into. And 523 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: even just you know, we did what when we do that? 524 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: That episode recently about it was sort of based around 525 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: crop rotation and sustainability perma culture exactly, so I mean 526 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: even that in and of itself is a philosophical concept 527 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: to a degree, But then once you get into these 528 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: like scaled agriculture operations, it does become more about the 529 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: yield and perhaps, as we know in finance, sometimes you'll 530 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: do things that are less than scrupulous in in in 531 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: the service of the yield, you know. So I mean, 532 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: again not not casting any aspersions on big agriculture here specifically, 533 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: but it is something interesting to think about, like are 534 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: there things happening behind the scenes as we know with 535 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: like GMOs and all of that, that we've yet to 536 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: even fully wrap our heads around, like what what they 537 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: do long term? Right? Yeah, you know, I I know 538 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: we're spending some time on this, But now that I 539 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: think about it, the so a peanut has its pod 540 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: in the ground, right, that's how they grow, And it 541 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: doesn't have a hard shell, you know, like a coconut 542 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 1: or a walnut. Yes, you know, they're very different things. Uh, 543 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: but does that mean that stuff in the soil could 544 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: leach into like through that uh soft peanut skin? Is 545 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: that possible? I'm thinking out loud here, but I'm thinking 546 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: about all the all the pesticides and all the herbicides 547 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: that we know about that we're later found to have 548 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: damaging effects, like we were right about neo nicotinoids. They're 549 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: killing bees. You know, there's a reason you don't need 550 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: a nutcracker to open up a peanut. You can it's 551 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: got a cassism. And also if you, you know, soak them, 552 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: you can basically make that shell essentially dissolve like cardboard. 553 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: So you can't really do that with a walnut, and 554 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: if you did, it would take like way longer and 555 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: possibly have to have some sort of acidic, you know, 556 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: additive to even go there. But peanuts are kind of 557 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: like nature's cardboard in terms of the shell. I like that. 558 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: I like that that's poetic, and we are aware that 559 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: it is understood to be caused by several specific proteins. Right. 560 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: Uh so it's that cause is pretty well researched, the 561 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: well known. Oh man, I've got to call it. Does 562 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: anybody have a peanut guy. We got to talk to 563 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: a peanut guy. A piece in peanut We live in 564 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: peanut country. Yeah, and even in like five guys. Very 565 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: big signs, you know, peanuts and and potentially and everything, 566 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: you know, because they've got those big crates of the things, 567 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: and they're all over the floor. Have you ever been 568 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: to like a steakhouse that has like peanut shells on 569 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,720 Speaker 1: the floor. Back in the day, you know, they certainly 570 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't have had a whole warning going in, but nowadays 571 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: they probably are a little more careful to do that. Um, well, 572 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: let's take a quick pause here, a word from our sponsor, 573 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: and then come back with one more piece of listener. Man, Hello, 574 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: we're back. I was about to start the show again. 575 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: I gonna say, welcome back to the show. My name 576 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Mac Feeling. Yeah, you're welcome to them back to the show. 577 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: And it was very weird stuff happened over then. You know, 578 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: it's like the court ACEPS was just taken over all right. So, um, 579 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: we are going to jump to the voicemail lines and 580 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear a message from an agent of sorts. 581 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 1: Here we go, Hey, Matt ben Noel, this is Agent 582 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: Minuteman from Massachusetts. Just listen to your classic episode on 583 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: Noah's Ark, and your comments about that theme park at 584 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: the end reminded me of the Holy Land, not like Israel, 585 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: but Holy Land, Connecticut. It was a theme park built 586 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: in the fifties in the town of Waterbury. It was 587 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: shut down in the eighties and it's well known for 588 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: having a huge cross, big led panels can see it 589 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: from miles around. But the park itself real spooky looking. 590 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: Now a girl was murdered there and it's become kind 591 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: of one of these spooky tourist attractions. I seem to 592 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: write up you guys, allie, so I thought i'd let 593 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: you know I love a story involving ramshackled amusement parks. 594 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: There was a Stephen King, kind of lesser Stephen King 595 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: novella called fun Land. I think it was called um 596 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: great set piece anytime you're in like a haunted house, 597 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: kind of a trashy haunted house, always really fun fodder 598 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: for a spooky mystery. Yes, it's ben. I want to 599 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: say this is a vocabulary word of the day that 600 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: you've presented to us before in the past. Uh canopsia. 601 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm saying it correctly. Yeah, 602 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: the eerie feeling of being in a place that was 603 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: once busy with people. It's like the ghost of all 604 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: the people that once inhabited this place are now gone 605 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: and it's empty, abandoned, and that. Yeah, I I don't 606 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: know how uh uh, I don't know how official that 607 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: word is. Just totally honest with you. I think it's 608 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: a little more dictionary but I but I love it. 609 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: And everybody has had this feeling before. Um So just 610 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: to drive home with an example here, um why in 611 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: our conversation we were talking about this almost quiet holiness, right, 612 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: is how people can experience this. You've encountered this if 613 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: you have ever been in a twenty four hour grocery 614 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: store and looked around and you you know, you know, 615 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: there's probably a cashier somewhere, but there's just the music plane, 616 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: there's something sad and very um It's it's like Dictionary 617 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: of Obscure Sorrows type stuff. Like another example would be, 618 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, um, a city after a tragedy, or a 619 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: city during a holiday in Times Square after nine eleven, 620 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, or or Time Square during the pandemic. It 621 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: amazing amazing photographs of places that are usually just heavily 622 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: traffic that we're just uh yeah, it's almost like it's 623 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of like um, deja vu. It's got a a 624 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: sort of vibe like that where it's like you're experiencing 625 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: another worldly thing that isn't really something you can fully 626 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: tap into, you know, psychologically or or intellectually. Rather um 627 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: dead malls great example, you know, giant, empty, cavernous spaces 628 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: that used to be bustling with shoppers that are now 629 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: essentially like overgrown, weird places that are too expensive for 630 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: anyone to rent. Well in a weird way. That experience, 631 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: to me, is a lot like time traveling for just 632 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: a moment, because there is a point in time when 633 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: humanity is wiped from the earth, but some of the 634 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: structures will remain at least for a time. Right matter 635 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: when that is in time, how far advanced we are 636 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: or how do devolved we are, there will be a 637 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: moment right where there's just structures and there's one person 638 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: left observing it, or a small group of people check 639 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 1: out the show of the World without us back back 640 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: when History Channel was still doing stuff like that. So yeah, 641 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: you get to have that that window, that moment in time. Well, 642 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: this place that Agent Miniman describes your Holy Land, USA, 643 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: that's the full title in Waterbury, Connecticut. Uh, kind of 644 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: has that vibright. Now it's being I don't want to 645 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: spoil it too much, guys, but it is being used 646 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: right now for some worship ceremonies. Uh, it is like 647 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: a Christian worship ceremonies, like mass things like that. But 648 00:39:52,239 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: for a long time, from four until gosh, the past 649 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: the two thousand tens, this place was completely abandoned. It 650 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: was started by a gentleman in the nineteen fifties who decided, 651 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, I want to build a place where people 652 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: can go and experience essentially the biblical town of Bethlehem, 653 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: or a replication of the biblical town of Bethlehem. But 654 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: I want to make everything looks really the town of Bedrock. 655 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: When you look at that, like the actual it looks 656 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: like the flint Stones themed kind of amusement park. It's very, very, 657 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: very weird. Well, are you talking about the There's a 658 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: link I sent you guys to discovery dot com. Is 659 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: that the one you're talking about. I'm just looking at 660 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: the image there is that not it's that's one part 661 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: of it. But there there are other images on another 662 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: site that I sent to you guys. It's called messi 663 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: NeSSI chick dot com that that has some images of 664 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: the actual mini Bethlehem that was created. Uh, it's got 665 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: coral castle vibes. Yeah, with with a better pain job 666 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: because it had something of a budget, but not an 667 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: inexhaustible budget, and they did the best they could with 668 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: with that. The thing that you can't tell from the 669 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: picture is the scale, because this is I don't it's 670 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: less than half scale, I believe. Yeah, yes, exactly. So 671 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: if you're at the front where these large gates are 672 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: these pictures, we're looking at it. It looks like there's 673 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: a town that kind of moves up this hill or 674 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: up this mountain, and from the perspective it looks like 675 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: a regularly sized bunch of houses and buildings, but really 676 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: they're just tiny and it's just meant to look like it. 677 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: And to my understanding, the creator's idea was that anyone 678 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: from any religious background, of any faith could come here 679 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: and just kind of spend some time in this place, 680 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: almost as in a meditative state, to just imagine what 681 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: it would be like to be here in this time 682 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: and place that is written about in the Bible. It's 683 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: very cool to me, I don't know, I like it 684 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: is yeah, I like it because it reminds me of 685 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, fellow nerds in the audience backed me up here, uh, 686 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: the historical reproduction towns that some of us visited in 687 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: grade school with someone's like, you know, there's an agent 688 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: tradition to tune in butter wow, I recall vividly, you 689 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And they're doing the acting thing. 690 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: I love that stuff, and I think we all um 691 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: really enjoy this idea of visiting the past or experiencing 692 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: it in person, even if it is a past with 693 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 1: which you do not agree or to which you do 694 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: not subscribe, This stuff can be really really cool. Uh. 695 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: There is one thing that's green about the messy nessy 696 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: link you sent Matt is you do get a better 697 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: sense of scale when you see two kids, right. That's 698 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: why I think that's where we're going. There's a a 699 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: neat picture of two kids standing outside and a small 700 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: building and in a hotel. Uh. And and based on 701 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: the perceived height of the children, I think if you 702 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: took an if you a person, an adult person standing 703 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 1: would probably be right at the ceiling of that thing 704 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: or higher. So it's yeah, so cool. What happened to 705 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 1: those reproduction places, you know? Can we go? Can we 706 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: just go to one? Is that in the budget there 707 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: were a couple in Florida, though I don't know their 708 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: current state, after Ian and some of the other like 709 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: terrible tragedies that are going on down there right now 710 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 1: with the weather. Um. But yeah, I remember going to 711 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of down there. I want to talk to 712 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: you guys really quickly a little more about this place 713 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: in the history, because it is it is pretty cool. There. 714 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 1: There's a guy named John Baptist Greco or Greeko g 715 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: r E c O. I want to say, maybe it's Greeko, 716 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 1: might be Baptiste. Oh yeah, maybe it is John Baptiste Greco. Man. 717 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm only reading these things and English is weird. 718 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: You can kill him say things in different ways. But 719 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: this dude was an attorney there in Waterbury and uh, 720 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: as I was saying, he wanted this place to be 721 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 1: like a cool meditative thing. Um, it was. You like 722 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: the materials used for this thing, you guys were saying 723 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: it was maybe a little ramshackle. Uh, it is. It's 724 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,760 Speaker 1: mostly reused materials from other projects, other construction, other things 725 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: like that. I mean we're talking everything like old fridges 726 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: that are helping to fill this thing out, center blocks, 727 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: things like that. Uh. And it was successful in the 728 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties and seventies. There are a lot of people, 729 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: around forty thousand people visiting this place every year as 730 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: a not really a pilgrimage, but just you know, maybe 731 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: a curiosity in a a place of interest in The guy 732 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: who created this place closed it down and the plan 733 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: was refurbished the entire thing, make it better than it's 734 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: ever been. We've actually made you know, a little bit 735 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: of money through the project. We can make it better, 736 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: then we'll reopen it. But unfortunately he passed away very 737 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: soon after closing it down and gave it to a 738 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: group of nuns. And this is where the eerie part 739 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: comes in. It's not because the nuns are haunting it 740 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: or something like that, which would be a great Blumhouse movie. 741 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's because they essentially looked after the property. 742 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,280 Speaker 1: But they didn't keep it up. Does that make sense. 743 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 1: They didn't they did a bad job. No, they like, 744 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, they did the rest that they could. But 745 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: it was like a volunteer thing, like, oh, well this 746 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: is ours now. Oh geez, okay, I guess we'll fit 747 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: this into our schedules. You know, got it. It wasn't 748 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: like fully vandalized or burned to the ground, but they didn't, like, 749 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, it was van jobs, it was vantialized at times, 750 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: it was you know, it remained though, right, let's just 751 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how to put that in a nicer way. 752 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: They didn't really do much with it. It kind of 753 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: grew over, uh, and kids, you know, teenagers used it 754 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: as like a spot to go because it's weird. Right. Well, 755 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: then there were a bunch of community efforts to actually 756 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: clean the place up. Our caller mentioned a giant cross 757 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: right that's visible from really far away that crosses neon 758 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: looking thing. Well, it is now. Originally it is not, 759 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: but it's gone through several restorations, I think three complete rebuilds, 760 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: and it is now this huge light lit cross that 761 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 1: you can see from even further away. Now, man, that 762 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: crosses lit. Yeah, but but the the oh god, you 763 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: gotta switch gears here, because there was something terrible that 764 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: occurred that's been confirmed on the grounds where in two 765 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: thousand ten, a young woman of sixteen named Chloe was 766 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 1: assaulted and murdered and her body was left there at 767 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: the park by a guy who was then charged with 768 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: those things and began serving a fifty five year sentence. Um, 769 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: so I don't know at least that guys behind bars. 770 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 1: The person was caught, but it does, like then give 771 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: this place a whole other sense of ereness. Right. Uh, 772 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: life was lost there in a in a terrible way. 773 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: So just when I'm thinking about strange places like that, 774 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: that feeling of connopsia that we you know, or maybe 775 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: not really a feeling, but a word to describe a thing, 776 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 1: this place has a lot of those different feelings. It's 777 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: a it's a real mixed bag of them up there. 778 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: The idea of a place feeling haunted, you know, I mean, 779 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: like even even if something horrible hasn't happened in a 780 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: place like this, you are almost experiencing, like you said, Matt, 781 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: the the ghosts of those that came before. Like the 782 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: idea of someplace being haunted I think is more of 783 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 1: a psychological phenomenon than like a supernatural one, you know 784 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, where your your imagination kind of fills 785 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: in the gaps and you you you're seeing a place 786 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 1: that that should have tons of people there but doesn't, 787 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 1: and then you you you get this sense of whatever. 788 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: And that's a great word for this canopsia. One thing 789 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: I thought was neat though on the website Holy Land 790 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: Waterberry dot org Is. It has one um image where 791 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: it shows kind of what the housing situation might have 792 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: looked like. And it's the kind of housing you might 793 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: see today in like San Francisco, saw Selto. Like these 794 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: houses on these hillsides that are all different colors, are 795 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 1: like the flavelas in Rio de Janeiro and it and 796 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: it obviously is kind of an older style of architecture 797 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: where everything was just like, you know, you had this 798 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: finite amount of real estate literally and things just kind 799 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: of got shoved on these hills, probably a little haphazardly 800 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: in certain senses. And I think that's interesting because I 801 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,799 Speaker 1: never really thought about what the Holy land. I guess 802 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: I've always pictured its being kind of flat, but that 803 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense. And maybe this is historically accurate, 804 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's not. But when I see this image on 805 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: the website, I immediately think of those favelas and uh 806 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: Rio or like this, you know, houses in sALS Alto 807 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: and um you know, or in Italy, you know, like 808 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: the multicolored or Havanna, you know, like a lot of 809 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,479 Speaker 1: old world kind of things seem to mimic this type 810 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: of architecture. Well, yeah, by the way, if you look 811 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 1: this up on Google Maps or whatever your map of 812 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: choice is, you can find it pretty easily. It's a 813 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: clickable link you can get on your map. You can 814 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: go to the website holy Land Waterbury dot org and 815 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,439 Speaker 1: it does seem as though there are thing is going 816 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: on there. Has it been mapped like uh in three 817 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: in three D? Like if you went there and did 818 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 1: like Google Earth, could you actually walk through it and 819 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: see like real real time kind of stuff? I don't know. 820 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: I haven't, I haven't attempt Do you do that? If 821 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: you have like a if you have an oculus, you 822 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 1: can do that in the Google Maps or it's called 823 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: like Discover or whatever it's called. It's like an app 824 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: for Oculus, or you can literally virtually go to a 825 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: street corner. This would be a really interesting thing to 826 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: try to enter into that app. M that's amazing, guys. 827 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if holy Land USA is open today. 828 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: I can't tell it's well, it seems like it might 829 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: be open, or at least parts of it. Website says 830 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: two Waterbury holy Land site designed and hosted, so I mean, 831 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: at the very least there's a there's a link to 832 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: make a donation and there's a fact and a contact 833 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: us get in touch link, So maybe they're trying to 834 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: get funds to reopen it. But the site is definitely 835 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: kept up by somebody. It says, we'll see here's the thing, 836 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: this is the best informational website that we'll get out 837 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: of here. Guys on their f a Q, it says, 838 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: can I visit Holy Land? It says it's not yet 839 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: open to the public, but we're working to make that happen. 840 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: But that was written a while ago, because it says 841 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: no trespassing is strictly enforced after sunset. We hope to 842 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: have the park open during the day in twenty nineteen, 843 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: and then the pandemic happened. And so I don't I 844 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,919 Speaker 1: love I love abandoned places so much. You know, they've 845 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: got those ozamandius vibes that are just U mommy to me, 846 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: and that it's a very weird sentence. But you guys, 847 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: get right, Oh god, that's that's an anime. We're done. 848 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,320 Speaker 1: I have one little last thing. This reminds me of 849 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: um when I was a kid. I went to this 850 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: when I lived in Germany, went to this place in 851 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: Munich where they filmed like Bavariaus Studios where they filmed 852 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 1: The never Ending Story. Um, the director was German and 853 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: they filmed that entirely in Germany. And there is a 854 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 1: little kind of theme park quote unquote for The never 855 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: Ending Story where you can ride on the you know, Falcore, 856 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,359 Speaker 1: the Dragon or whatever, and they've got like a lot 857 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: of like scale models of the rock Muncher and the 858 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: snails and all that stuff. And I don't know if 859 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 1: it's open, but there was an article on Dangerous Minds 860 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: years ago. They just sort of had some really creepy 861 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: pictures of it, like everything just covered in snow, and 862 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: it just seemed kind of abandoned. And I just I 863 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: went there when I was a kid and I rode 864 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: Falcore and they is a blue screen and they blow 865 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: like a fan in your hair and then they give 866 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: you a VHS. And I wish to god I had 867 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: that VHS. But you know, and I'm not saying that 868 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: like the Bible is like a fantasy, like The never 869 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: Ending Story, but there are things about this site that 870 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: do have an air of fantasy see to it. It's 871 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: almost like a stylized version of of of the Bible 872 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: of History. For sure. Yeah, someone's vision made real right. 873 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: What's the weirdest place you've been to? Fell a conspiracy realist? 874 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: What's your favorite strange amusement park. I won't go on 875 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: air with mine because I don't want to blow up 876 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: the spot and I'm I'm not sure what side of 877 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 1: the law I am on when I explore that place. 878 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: But as always, we are legally required to tell you 879 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: not to break into places if people ask you not 880 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: to do so. We want to hear from you, not 881 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: just about these abandoned places, and thank you very much, 882 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: minute man, not just about peanut allergies quinky dink uh, 883 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: and not just about the ongoing protest in Iran. 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